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CMS: Why isn’t COVID-19 killing the unvaccinated?

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Why aren't the unvaccinated dying? Why isn t there a resurgence of the deadly C.O.V.19 virus? Why aren t more Canadians getting the boosters they need to prevent the spread of this new strain of the flu?

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00:00:00.000 Thank you.
00:00:30.320 Good day. Welcome to the Corey Morgan Show. This is my weekly playground with the Western Standard where I'll rant, rave, turn your ear, talk about issues for a period of time and, you know, solve some of the world's problems.
00:00:45.100 I am, as the show name would imply, Corey Morgan. So thanks for tuning in with us today, guys. And for those who are tuning in live, again, I appreciate it. I like that live audience thing going on. I see Paradoxie and Bob commenting already.
00:00:57.420 send those comments, send those ideas. I don't read them all out necessarily on the air,
00:01:01.960 but I do see them all and it helps me, helps prompt me along. I learn a lot of things on
00:01:06.300 this show when I see some of those comments and interaction and things going back and forth.
00:01:11.320 Discuss things with each other. I've seen that in the comment scroll as well. Lots of times
00:01:14.780 there's E Sharp and Debbie McKenzie. Just keep things civil, of course. That's the important
00:01:19.140 thing. We got lots of time to fight other places, other times. That's what the internet's all about,
00:01:23.800 but we don't necessarily need to do it on here. So yeah, I've got a good one coming up. I got a
00:01:28.380 guest in a little while. He's the executive director of the Indigenous Resource Network.
00:01:32.740 His name is John Desjardins. He's a businessman and their site's really good. And I like their
00:01:37.160 positive messaging. I'm really looking forward to talking to him and their campaign, which is
00:01:41.660 called Resource Development is Reconciliation. Quite different than what we typically have been
00:01:47.160 hearing about what is or isn't reconciliation and things such as that. So that'll be a good chat.
00:01:53.800 as well. Lots of news. I'll check in with Dave in a little while and see what's going on. Karen
00:01:58.600 Mitchell saying happy news today. I don't know. There's all kinds of news going on. You can decide
00:02:03.380 whether it's happy or not. I'm going to start with my opening monologue though on something that's
00:02:08.200 not terribly controversial. I want to ask, why aren't the unvaccinated dying? Yeah, I know a 1.00
00:02:14.620 little bit loaded, but it's worth asking, you know, in the last six months, 94% of Canadians
00:02:21.500 didn't bother getting COVID-19 boosters. Now remember, we've been told, we've been told over
00:02:25.600 and over, we have to get these boosters every six months or this is coming back. Well, only 6%
00:02:30.020 of Canadians have bothered to do that. Now with a campaign of coercion using fear, economic duress
00:02:36.880 and social ostracization, Canada did manage to twist the arms of Canadians hard enough to get
00:02:41.920 80% of the population to get two doses of the vaccine. The number of people taking part though
00:02:46.500 when the lifetime of booster shots recommended by many medical experts who often coincidentally are
00:02:51.840 in the pharmaceutical industry is dropped pretty dramatically. Now, in response to this, we're
00:02:56.880 starting to see a push again from authorities to try and coax the citizens into getting yet another
00:03:00.780 injection this fall. You know, with hindsight, we've learned that the vaccinations, at least,
00:03:06.120 you know, with, they may reduce symptoms, but they did nothing to prevent the spread of COVID-19,
00:03:10.100 though we were told by many medical experts and politicians it would. The entire basis of locking
00:03:15.380 unvaccinated people from business establishments, schools, social gatherings, and travel was on the
00:03:20.560 false premise that vaccine prevents transmission. Another thing we know now, too, is while COVID-19
00:03:27.580 is a serious virus, it presents little serious risk to young, healthy people. Children are
00:03:33.300 virtually immune to COVID-19, and adults rarely experience anything worse than flu-like symptoms
00:03:38.960 from the virus if they feel any symptoms whatsoever, unless, of course, they had a few
00:03:44.860 comorbidities, which includes advanced age. There was never a need to coerce young, healthy people
00:03:51.420 into vaccinations and boosters, and there still isn't now, unless you're in the business selling
00:03:55.380 vaccines, of course. This isn't opinion. This is just medical and statistical reality.
00:04:01.140 But it was found that people weren't cooperating in getting boosters every six months as they were
00:04:04.620 told the fear campaign was ramped up, though. We were told COVID-19 is always going to be with us,
00:04:09.380 and if we don't all get boosters, hospitals will surely be overwhelmed and the bodies will pile
00:04:14.300 up in the seats as the virus would resurge. Well, the resurgence of COVID-19 never happened,
00:04:20.120 and it won't. Vulnerable people have been vaccinated, probably a good idea.
00:04:24.220 And despite the dire warnings from the experts, the unvaccinated haven't been decimated by the
00:04:29.260 infection. I know most of us just want to leave the pandemic experience and misery in the rearview
00:04:34.440 mirror. It dominated our lives for years, and we just don't want to relive it. Like it or not,
00:04:39.040 though, we can't let the doom-seeing henny pennies off the hook for what they did to us all. 0.70
00:04:44.160 These panic-pushing patsies haven't given up,
00:04:47.460 and they'll come out of the woodwork to demand lockdowns and mandated masking
00:04:50.500 at the first sign of an increase in COVID-19 levels or the emergence of any new virus.
00:04:55.180 They thrive on fear, and authoritarians at all levels of government
00:04:58.460 love to indulge those fears with legislation targeting the freedoms of citizens.
00:05:02.900 The panic-porn pushers were dead wrong.
00:05:05.460 We can't forget that, and we can't let our elected officials forget that.
00:05:08.940 If we let the memory of how badly we were treated by a state in panic over a virus fade,
00:05:13.580 we're inviting another similar event to happen. The government's changed the information it shares
00:05:18.520 on the booster status of Canadians now, actually, to only include the last six months. Now why is
00:05:22.960 that? It's our information, isn't it? What purpose is being served in hiding that information from
00:05:29.600 our own citizens? The reason, of course, is they don't want us to know just how dismal their own
00:05:34.600 numbers are. They don't want people to see just how few citizens are falling for the lifetime of
00:05:39.060 boosters recommendation. Again, guys, 6%. That's nothing to brag about. If indeed those things
00:05:44.620 were preventing, we should be overrun by infections. With the information being limited
00:05:49.980 in just the last six months, though, the picture's still pretty bleak, right? The number puts lie to
00:05:54.700 the case of fear still being made as we're pushed to get an injection twice a year. If the boosters
00:06:00.540 save lives, why is the lack of uptake, why isn't it killing us? COVID-19 is still around. The virus
00:06:06.120 is endemic, and it's still seriously harming vulnerable people with comorbidities. It's still
00:06:10.680 infecting healthy people, though they often don't even feel the symptoms if it's just a flu. If the
00:06:15.840 motivation for pushing boosters on citizens isn't based on health, though, must be financial. What
00:06:20.600 better market could a drug manufacturer possibly hope for than a populace coerced by a government
00:06:24.820 into taking your product? But the coercion is failing, and people aren't getting more jabs.
00:06:29.580 That's great news. Don't think for a second, though, that those invested in pushing mass COVID-19
00:06:34.060 vaccinations have given up. They're lobbying governments, they're influencing the press,
00:06:37.880 and they're just waiting for the next chance to try and whip up a profitable panic over a potential
00:06:43.000 pandemic. We have to remain on guard. The pandemic experience and its associated lockdowns isn't
00:06:48.860 finished. The last few years have just been the opening chapter of that book. So again, guys,
00:06:53.800 hindsight's good for nothing if we don't make use of it. So let's not forget these things and let's
00:06:58.040 keep watching those numbers. It's important. All right, that's what's got me going this morning.
00:07:04.060 let's just keep watching those numbers and hope everybody stays safe so and let's check in with
00:07:07.900 dave naylor and see what else is going on in the newsroom good uh we're all very excited uh women's
00:07:16.620 world cup uh kicks off tomorrow i think you're probably excited too oh beside myself with
00:07:22.700 anticipation uh corey hey i got a question for you what would you do if i gave you one billion dollars
00:07:29.500 Well, you wouldn't see me for a while. I'd probably do a great deal of traveling and
00:07:36.400 die of overindulgence from fat, rich foods.
00:07:39.820 All right. Would you give me any?
00:07:42.180 Eh, maybe. I'd toss a little bit around before I fly the coop.
00:07:46.900 All right. The reason I'm asking is it's our top story on the site right now. For only the third
00:07:51.560 time in history, the Powerball jackpot in the U.S. has soared past the $1 billion mark. 0.99
00:07:59.280 Just a really, really stupid amount of money, obviously. 0.82
00:08:04.500 But, you know, it gives people some nice things to dream about, 0.99
00:08:08.700 about what they would do with that sort of lotto loot.
00:08:13.480 Other stuff making the news this morning, Corey,
00:08:15.880 the city of Toronto, you know, being overrun with crime and drug addicts,
00:08:21.740 they've sort of set their goals on the lofty ambition to ban lawnmowers.
00:08:27.740 Yeah, that's right.
00:08:28.580 They want to ban lawnmowers because they want to ban all two-stroke engines.
00:08:32.620 So lawnmowers, leaf blowers, all those type of things will be banned.
00:08:38.520 But, you know, they're going to set up rental shops around the city
00:08:41.240 where you can go and rent an electric lawnmower to keep up with your yard maintenance.
00:08:47.820 So another ludicrous idea of the center of the universe.
00:08:53.180 Our Dave Makachuk's got an interesting column on sports salaries.
00:08:57.180 and uh how the uh obscene money that uh today's athletes are getting paid and uh he's questioning
00:09:03.420 whether it's uh distorting our own values uh business reporter sean polzer's got an interesting
00:09:10.140 story up on what's known as the church of bleach this was uh an organization uh that was selling
00:09:17.100 fake beauty products that basically contained bleach uh that was being used as a they're trying
00:09:23.500 to sell it as a miracle COVID cure. So a Calgary guy's been arrested and charged 12 grand.
00:09:31.820 And WestJet, he's eating a bit of corporate egg today. Earlier this week, they were advertising
00:09:39.420 really ridiculous cheap round trip flights, round trip to London or Dublin basically for 200 bucks.
00:09:47.260 So of course, people saw that and snapped it up. But WestJet says it was a problem with the
00:09:52.940 third party and they're not going to honor the uh not going to honor the the fairs so i'm sure
00:09:59.180 they've upset a lot of uh a lot of angry travelers there and store uh corey a great story i'm just
00:10:04.940 about to put up the government of alberta as you know they auction off a lot of their surplus
00:10:10.620 goods and they've now got a surplus human-sized donor suit that uh that you can buy corey right
00:10:18.700 now the top bid is a thousand bucks so you know if you and jane wanted to add some uh you know
00:10:24.620 some excitement to your uh estate out in prittis i think a donair suit would be the way to do it
00:10:30.700 well we got an anniversary coming up i'll have to keep that in mind you know i don't see how
00:10:34.460 she could possibly resist me if i showed up dressed in nothing but a donair suit no exactly you'd be
00:10:40.380 very tasty right on well i'm glad to see our government is shedding itself of some of their
00:10:47.020 less needed possessions. I can't imagine what they were using it for in the first place, but
00:10:52.320 I'm sure the story will explain all. You bet. All right. Well, thanks, Dave. Lots on the go.
00:10:59.140 I'll let you get back to rounding up your herd of reporters and keeping those stories coming.
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00:12:43.540 Dave brought up, I don't know if people saw it, but it was quite hilarious. Credit due to a
00:12:49.360 cameraman with CTV. I hope he's still there. You might've seen the video going around. Basically
00:12:55.140 somebody from Toronto, it was from a transportation authority of some sort, but she was
00:12:59.080 saying that they've got all these delayed flights under control and they fixed the issues and
00:13:03.080 everything's great and everybody's happy and she's doing this presser at an airport in Toronto and
00:13:08.740 and in the background though there's the flight schedule you know in an airport you get the
00:13:14.640 digital screen with all that and the camera pans up I think the cameraman said to himself I'm just
00:13:18.800 reading in I can't stomach any more of this bs over this woman because he raises the camera up
00:13:23.120 and you see dozens and dozens of flights and they're all delayed and cancelled all over the
00:13:28.220 place just cancelled cancelled cancelled oh there we go yes the standard cover you see the camera
00:13:32.040 scrolling up. And if that screen's a little too small, you can see all the cancellations and
00:13:37.660 delays sort of put lie to what this woman was trying to say. I am curious though, like what
00:13:44.220 on earth is going on with the airlines? I mean, I'm not a big fan of Air Canada.
00:13:49.100 They're having huge problems, but it's all of them. They're all going through misery. I'm
00:13:53.040 watching people, all sorts of anecdotes, traveling through the States or different American airlines,
00:13:57.560 WestJet here in Canada, Porter Airlines, you name it, constant delays, constant cancellations.
00:14:04.080 Like there's something, and I don't know, I've seen all sorts of speculation. I've seen all
00:14:07.800 sorts of excuses. I've seen things made, but something has just thrown a wrench into the
00:14:12.620 entire air travel system in North America, and they can't seem to break themselves out of it.
00:14:17.840 And it's miserable. You know, I'm back when I used to, I can't imagine if I still used to
00:14:22.880 did what I used to have to do. Like my boss, back in the days when I used to fly around in
00:14:27.400 States, troubleshooting, managing oil exploration programs. He would buy me flights and he would
00:14:33.160 just go on to Expedia and pick the cheapest one, you know, sort by price and that'd be my flight
00:14:37.440 because he paid me a day rate. So it wouldn't matter how long it took me to get where I was
00:14:40.380 going. He's going to pay me the same amount. So I'd get some flights. I'd have to go to Pittsburgh
00:14:43.680 and be like six different connections. They'd lose my luggage about a quarter of the time.
00:14:47.340 He was pretty clear. He said, you want better service and everything. Don't worry, Corey,
00:14:51.480 you can just buy your own flights. Well, of course, you know, okay, I'll put up with it. But boy,
00:14:54.760 I would never have made those connections if the airline service was as unreliable and screwed up
00:15:01.420 as it is today. Not a chance. Like I said, I had a lot of tough connections sprinting through
00:15:06.600 airports all over North America over those years as it was. But at least back then, the majority
00:15:11.280 of flights were on time and at least would fly. Like now they just keep canceling and they don't
00:15:16.280 give explanations. You know, the air industry, for one thing though, people get upset with them a lot
00:15:22.880 because it's so no frills. We've got to blame ourselves a little bit for that too. I mean,
00:15:25.940 air travel is way cheaper now than we ever imagined in the past. I mean, flights and
00:15:31.200 everything used to be just for the very rich people in the past. And you didn't casually do
00:15:37.060 it. If you're gray in the muzzle like I am, you remember you didn't just hop out for a weekend on
00:15:41.660 a flight like we do nowadays. But the reason we get that is because you're in those cramped little
00:15:45.560 seats and because you've got to pay for extra baggage and all you get is a lousy little bag
00:15:49.180 of peanuts, but still, they can't reliably get you from place to place now, then, well, you're
00:15:55.240 starting to wonder whether it's worthwhile at all. I don't know. There's some sort of tipping point
00:15:58.520 has hit with the airlines, and we'll see what comes out of it. Okay, I see our guest in the
00:16:03.360 lobby. I've been looking forward to this conversation. It's John Digelay. I could be
00:16:07.820 messing that up. It's a French sort of name pronunciation, but I think that's correct. 0.81
00:16:11.380 And he's the executive director of the Indigenous Resource Network. And yeah, I've been looking
00:16:17.260 forward to talking to them, but their campaign on resource development is reconciliation. It just
00:16:22.580 sounds quite contrary to a lot of campaigns we hear on these kinds of issues. So thank you very
00:16:26.900 much for joining us today, John. We really appreciate it. It's my absolute pleasure,
00:16:31.120 Corey. Yeah, I'm super excited to be here and talk about what we're doing.
00:16:35.440 Great. Yeah. And I mean, what caught my eye with that? And I mean, your site is fantastic. And we'll
00:16:39.440 go into a little of that in a little while too, just in general with the stories from people and
00:16:42.820 things like that. But just a positive messaging outlook is just saying, you know what, you know,
00:16:50.320 don't listen to all the other things. If we want reconciliation, let's develop resources. Let's
00:16:54.600 get people prosperous and have them living happily in their communities out there. And it's seems
00:17:00.860 like it's simple common sense, but not enough people are saying that sort of thing.
00:17:04.180 No, absolutely. Yeah. And that's one of the reasons why we stood up the network. But yeah,
00:17:09.040 like you know reconciliation how do we achieve reconciliation how do we look at resource
00:17:13.200 development from an abundance mindset in terms of prosperity for all you know sharing and in the
00:17:19.280 risks but also sharing in the resources uh and the rewards you know from an equitable perspective and
00:17:25.040 and how that's facilitating you know community engagement and self-determination um you know
00:17:30.640 and so there's so many exciting things happening that are positive for all of canada and canadians
00:17:36.160 and the industry so we're really excited to to talk about that and to you know further understand
00:17:41.280 it but also celebrate what's happening and and why that's important for communities and canada
00:17:46.560 well it's in a large number of indigenous communities of course are in isolated areas
00:17:50.640 relative to our our population centers and if it isn't resource development to help them
00:17:55.360 become independent there isn't necessarily a lot there but i mean i mean it runs contrary to some
00:18:01.680 people make it sound as if the discussion too that as if everybody in the indigenous community is all
00:18:07.040 on the same page i mean there's multiple points of view on on how much development should happen
00:18:10.800 or who and where and and you should be allowed to have that open discussion absolutely yeah like and
00:18:16.000 we built the network off a poll that found that you know predominantly indigenous people and
00:18:20.560 communities are in favor of of resource development and and some of the consistencies are you know in
00:18:26.240 in favor of good, meaningful development,
00:18:29.380 sustainable development,
00:18:30.700 which aligns with the goals of Canada,
00:18:32.820 our government and industry.
00:18:35.040 And, you know, there's incredible sentiment there
00:18:38.080 in terms of let's do this,
00:18:39.640 let's do this together and share in that prosperity.
00:18:42.640 Yeah, well, and nobody's got a better interest
00:18:44.860 in sustainable and responsible development
00:18:47.000 than the people who live in the area.
00:18:48.580 I mean, you could support the development of a pipeline
00:18:51.380 because if you're there to watch you make sure
00:18:53.260 that you minimize impact,
00:18:54.780 not going to go out there and make more of a mess than you have to again but we're not hearing that
00:18:59.900 messaging a lot from the communities they seem to focus on the activists who oppose unfortunately in
00:19:04.540 the media rather than than the people who are interested in developing yeah absolutely and so
00:19:09.420 you know again none of the one of the reasons we think we're um important to this conversation is
00:19:14.860 to um you know i think challenge that that sensationalization of indigenous sentiment
00:19:20.460 in resource development and and you know and activism and has really certainly um you know
00:19:27.100 i think been the predominant voice um but we're you know we and so many other groups and communities
00:19:32.300 are here to say that it's not the representative voice it's it doesn't represent the majority
00:19:36.700 and doesn't represent by and far largely the sentiment in terms of being involved in developing
00:19:42.380 moving the development forward and in line with what you just said absolutely indigenous people
00:19:48.060 are here to influence and assert through ownership you know greater sustainability in terms of
00:19:53.660 design in terms of construction in terms of operation because you're absolutely right you
00:19:58.620 know communities bear considerable environmental risk with resource development understand that
00:20:03.660 and the conversation changes when we're in a position to be able to influence you know the
00:20:08.220 development in a way that ensures the protection of that that that environment and the culture and
00:20:13.420 ceremony that surrounds the development in the land and the land use. Yeah and something that's
00:20:20.540 changed I think as well has been some of the attitudes from industry and perhaps it's from
00:20:24.020 like proactive business people like yourself speaking out. I was in the oil industry way back
00:20:28.840 30 years ago and such and we'd work in areas with Indigenous communities but to be honest
00:20:32.900 usually at best okay well we'll kind of check to the local community or something like that or
00:20:37.800 maybe hire a few folks and then we'll move on but now companies are often seeking actual
00:20:42.680 partnerships not tokenism they want participation with the local community so that there's an
00:20:49.660 investment and it's longer term and that can certainly have a lot more positive longer term
00:20:54.500 outcomes then yeah absolutely it does and so you know historically communities were seen as
00:21:00.580 maybe even potentially risk or stakeholders as part of the process as part of the development
00:21:05.760 process but the sentiment is changing and changing at a rate that is exciting especially over the
00:21:11.780 last, you know, five, 10 years, yes, jurisprudence says that, you know, indigenous people have
00:21:16.600 more, you know, rights and more obligation for consultation, but industry is even moving
00:21:22.280 past that and saying, no, it's just really good business to partner to work with communities
00:21:27.260 on a, on a meaningful, equitable level in terms of understanding and sharing some of
00:21:31.600 the challenges, the risks, the financing, but even the partnerships, if that's not possible,
00:21:36.160 looking for sustainable development as opposed to just managing communities in their
00:21:41.700 expectations but looking for what are the outcomes how do we ensure that you know even ultimately
00:21:47.300 the lives of indigenous people are better once this development moves on that they've built enough 1.00
00:21:51.300 capacity sustainable development that they can diversify and into different economies and and
00:21:56.180 industries are asking those questions you know government are asking those things and and
00:22:00.500 starting to develop policies and procurement and and relationships where that's an accountability
00:22:05.540 and a deliverable and it's it's exciting how that's changing and you know we a lot of people
00:22:10.900 involved in the industry think, we don't talk about that enough. We don't celebrate that. We
00:22:14.480 don't reward that type of sentiment and attitude because that's the sentiment and attitude that
00:22:19.300 builds partnership and relationship that ensures there's a lasting and a deep impact to these
00:22:25.500 relationships and partnerships. Well, yeah. And having skilled participants, I mean, it's an
00:22:29.980 asset in any industry. And if they're close to where you're working, you can't beat that. I mean,
00:22:34.640 even just on a dollars and cents business case, it makes sense to train up people and get them
00:22:39.600 invested and wanting to be a part of the project and you have a great local resource of people to
00:22:44.380 help with those things. It's unfortunate. Like I worked in the Arctic for a number of years
00:22:48.620 back when it was thought that the McKenzie Valley pipeline was still going to happen. And there was
00:22:53.600 a lot of investment though up there in the college up that way and training people from everything
00:22:58.580 from production accounting to welding, you know, in anticipation. And that didn't happen, but those
00:23:03.940 are still skills that the industry brought to people up there that they wouldn't have been able
00:23:08.340 to get otherwise and as i said they could diversify some of those skills they could take out
00:23:12.580 into other industries even if the pipeline didn't make it and you know i imagine these sorts of
00:23:17.460 developments in other communities can lead to that sort of broadening i guess of of enterprise and
00:23:22.020 skills absolutely it's it's really exciting to be part of conversations where industry is is kind of
00:23:28.580 moving past just the business need the project need and realizing yes there's a considerable
00:23:34.260 value and investing in these skills and the education life skills um you know and and achieving
00:23:40.580 um you know measures or means of socioeconomic reconciliation so getting people much more engaged
00:23:45.460 in terms of their opportunities diversifying skill sets so they can do all sorts of things and
00:23:49.700 and these investments are happening and and industry is far less um i think you know i don't
00:23:55.700 know but disappointed but they're they're they're far less understanding that yes this is this is how
00:24:00.500 how you do business. We're going to train people from, I think, from a more altruistic perspective
00:24:06.440 in terms of its greater impact to economy and industry. But ultimately, if you serve the
00:24:12.080 business, that's wonderful as well, too. And there's people that can do these things and
00:24:15.920 they can transfer those skills to other areas, other resource development, other economies,
00:24:21.060 administration, leadership. All those skills certainly transcend specific industries and
00:24:26.820 they're certainly applicable. And so, yeah, it's really exciting what's happening.
00:24:31.340 Yeah. And your group is giving a platform to, you know, different engaged voices throughout
00:24:36.000 the community in general to give that different perspective. I see a piece by Chief Crystal
00:24:40.780 Smith on, you know, saying First Nations want an energy future, not eco-colonialism, you know,
00:24:45.620 a bit of a loaded title, but while we see the colonialism word thrown out in opposition to
00:24:50.740 development all the time, and then this is kind of turning it around. Well, hang on, you know,
00:24:54.520 you foreign uh anti-industry groups aren't necessarily looking out for the local people's
00:24:59.980 interest as well it's sort of a different sort of patronizing colonialism going on out there
00:25:04.000 absolutely like and she's an excellent example and um a wonderful champion for you know describing
00:25:11.000 you know yes maybe there's some aspects of of of interest that align but it's typically just
00:25:17.220 the frustration um it doesn't align with the with the goals of the community 100 goals want
00:25:23.180 participate they want to develop they want to self-determine they want to be autonomous and
00:25:27.020 you know this type of active activism doesn't align with that it doesn't it doesn't contemplate
00:25:31.820 what if what is moving forward look like and uh what does it moving forward look like with
00:25:36.060 communities which i think by and far are the goals of community um you know to be able to
00:25:40.940 make the decisions resource development yes or no and to be empowered to do so and she is an
00:25:46.140 incredible spokesperson for that and and its impact on our community and making those decisions
00:25:51.420 and so um yeah that's that's changing it needs to change it needs to change even further
00:25:56.300 as we build out communities their sovereignty their independence their autonomy they're you
00:26:01.020 know incredible economic developers and and they want to do that and they want to develop um on
00:26:06.300 you know our terms and in true spirit of partnership and yeah and more of that needs to
00:26:11.340 happen we need to talk about the things that where it's happening and create a new standard
00:26:16.300 in terms of what the international community or even just national communities
00:26:21.020 sees as indigenous sentiment and and practicality and pragmatism in resource development yeah so uh
00:26:28.140 with your organization i mean you're bringing light to a lot of issues you're giving a platform
00:26:32.060 as i said uh i i see other categories you've got research available and and other things such as
00:26:37.740 that that you guys have been taking part in absolutely yes we want to you know as opposed
00:26:42.060 to we don't want to be an organization that pounds tables or talk about reparations or anything like
00:26:46.860 that we want to talk about um and then use the research to support that so we built it off that
00:26:51.740 through surveys and through understanding data through economic impact um you know different um
00:26:57.740 you know different policies and legislation so we want to look at those and say okay what's you know
00:27:02.620 what's the true impact economic impact if we go this way in terms of regulatory in terms of
00:27:06.620 of UNDRIP in terms of, you know, emissions intensity, cap,
00:27:09.620 production, you know, understand those things.
00:27:13.800 I need research to do that.
00:27:15.320 And so, yeah, we certainly have the capacity,
00:27:18.620 wanna use that data and then understand
00:27:21.780 and make informed choices in terms of development
00:27:25.020 and the policies that either support
00:27:27.940 or constrain development.
00:27:30.800 Yeah, and then we've talked a lot about oil and gas and LNG,
00:27:33.500 but I know as well, you talked about other resource
00:27:35.840 industries, forestry and mining, which again, are very large industries that can have some serious
00:27:41.240 impacts if done incorrectly, but can have some serious benefits if partnered correctly. So, I
00:27:46.720 mean, you know, those kind of get lost in the mix sometimes, but there's a lot of potential for
00:27:50.440 communities in both of those industries. Oh, absolutely. And in addition, like we talk about
00:27:54.940 fisheries as well too, and supporting some of the West Coast, you know, Indigenous communities and
00:27:59.800 their fishery initiatives and fish farming and stuff like that. And, you know, there's certain
00:28:03.720 policy and permitting and regulatory issues and hoping for reform that understands those,
00:28:09.800 if we were to transition or if there's issues of sustainability, let's understand the economic
00:28:13.560 impact aspect of those. Similar with mining and forestry, what does indigenous stewardship
00:28:21.160 and participation and sustainability look like? And there's certainly a lot of synergy in terms
00:28:28.680 of participation and sentiment in the different industries. And yeah, we're talking much more and
00:28:32.840 more and more about the different aspects in those industry right and so you know the the life cycle
00:28:38.440 of a mining um project and development operations and reclamation and what's the great examples in
00:28:43.960 there and the worker participation and business participation in there similar with with forestry
00:28:48.680 what is sustainability and stewardship uh from an indigenous perspective land rights and and
00:28:53.640 forest management practices and yeah we're diving into all the sectors to really understand
00:28:59.000 um you know what's really working let's celebrate and talk that and share that across
00:29:03.240 all the industries and then what's not working we work practically you know with government and
00:29:07.400 industry um you know again we're not we're non-partisan we don't really want to be political
00:29:12.760 we want to be advocates but active advocates with experience lived experience and substance through
00:29:19.080 the research and so and to inform conversations uh good conversation meaningful conversations
00:29:24.520 well excellent your site's a great resource and i really like that positive messaging you guys are
00:29:30.120 doing and again i really appreciate you coming on to talk to us about it so where can people
00:29:34.680 find more information about what you you've been doing and if they wanted to take part or just
00:29:39.000 research some things or to you absolutely our newly launched website is as a great resource
00:29:45.560 and we're looking for people to sign up as members and you know we we represent indigenous workers
00:29:50.440 in business absolutely please sign up as such so we can understand you know the impacts and your
00:29:55.640 needs more um but even non-indigenous and just the general community to support what we're doing and
00:30:00.200 how we're doing and uh you know we have we're active on all social media streams quite active
00:30:05.400 and in linkedin twitter facebook um you know even instagram and so uh follow uh the activities like
00:30:13.240 and share if you see it we're finding more people are much more comfortable as as they start to see
00:30:17.880 our messaging it's positive it's objective uh we don't like to polarize we don't want to start
00:30:23.320 fights you know we don't want to do that we want to be very practical in application and and do it
00:30:28.440 in a good meaningful way and so yeah direct them to the reason to the network direct them to the
00:30:32.840 website um please sign up um and then you know so we can understand um all these aspects even
00:30:39.320 further and then kind of build that following and then follow our social media channels excellent
00:30:44.200 Well, thank you one more time for joining us then, John.
00:30:47.080 And I hope we get to talk again soon.
00:30:49.220 We'll talk about some of those partnerships and successes.
00:30:51.520 Absolutely.
00:30:52.040 My pleasure, Corey.
00:30:52.940 Thanks for having me.
00:30:54.560 Thank you.
00:30:55.500 So that was John Digelaisy, Executive Director of the Indigenous Resource Network.
00:31:00.520 Yeah, that was a great chat.
00:31:01.960 And like I said, you know, just talking about things positively.
00:31:04.300 There are different points of view.
00:31:05.460 And I like how he's staying out of the partisanship.
00:31:07.540 Hey, I'm as partisan as they get.
00:31:08.920 You know, I make my noise.
00:31:09.860 I make my racket.
00:31:10.480 That's my job.
00:31:11.280 But if you're looking to develop, stay out of the partisan mire, that's a whole different ballpark, and you keep your eye on the prize.
00:31:19.500 And something, you know, the comments have gone by, a lot of them, and somebody talking about how the partnerships, there we are, collaborations improved over the years.
00:31:28.860 It's not new.
00:31:30.200 Maybe it wasn't as good yet, but, you know, that's, I mean, it's evolving.
00:31:32.920 And that's why I mentioned, you know, 30 years ago when, unfortunately, really what the partnerships meant was not, the word partnership wasn't even used.
00:31:39.800 It was tokenism.
00:31:40.740 you just cut a check to somebody and work in the area and then take off. And then later it got a
00:31:46.020 little better where you'd hire some folks, you'd bring them in on the project, you have monitors,
00:31:50.460 you have, but again, it's more with the view of we're going to be here, we're going to do this,
00:31:54.400 and then we're just going to leave. The vision now, what I'm getting, what I'm seeing is
00:31:58.900 fully invested, looking at the long term, having these indigenous businesses blossoming and staying 1.00
00:32:05.660 in the area, diversifying. And that's a whole, you know, that's investing the citizens in the area
00:32:11.360 into the project itself. And I can't think of a better way to invest if you want to get these
00:32:16.340 done. Look how hard it is getting major projects done right now. And these eco-activists who pretend
00:32:21.940 to speak for everybody in these areas, and we know they don't always do that. And if you've got
00:32:27.520 local people invested in those projects, maybe they'll go out to the blockade and speak to some
00:32:31.820 of the eco activists and make them realize guys you're blocking our economic development this
00:32:36.320 isn't working for us and you know some of the other uh patronizing talk we see it out of Hollywood
00:32:41.940 we see it out of some of these celebrities again opposing things like the the coastal gas link
00:32:47.280 pipeline and and you know initiatives such as that and they speak as if they're speaking on
00:32:51.680 behalf of the indigenous communities of them sure they represent the view of some of them but again
00:32:55.780 that's what must be so frustrating insulting is people talking as if everybody holds the same
00:33:00.780 view in these communities. No, not at all. There's a diversity of view just like anywhere else. And
00:33:06.260 so this group's representing an ambitious, proactive, and positive. As I said, I'm always
00:33:13.460 cranky and negative. Let's have something positive on. And that's what these guys are offering. So
00:33:17.900 check them out, indigenousresourcenetwork.ca. There's a lot there, guys, and a lot to cover.
00:33:23.860 All right. So let's talk about proactive. Something that I'm going to turn the page a
00:33:28.000 I'm going to talk about what Dave brought up with the Toronto banning two-stroke engines, lawn mowers, who knows what else.
00:33:34.680 Weed whackers, I imagine, chainsaws. 0.97
00:33:36.540 I couldn't imagine working in the bush with an electric chainsaw.
00:33:39.420 I don't think that's going to be that great.
00:33:41.960 But I want to talk about proactive.
00:33:44.160 I've got a beat-up old lawnmower home.
00:33:46.000 I've got an acreage.
00:33:47.020 Okay, a plug-in electric mower, yeah, it's just not going to happen on my place.
00:33:50.540 I like the push behind mower because I've got a lot of rolling little spots to get into,
00:33:55.220 and a ride-on mower would be difficult and next to useless for me. And I can use the exercise.
00:34:01.600 But when that old thing dies, I'm probably going to buy one of those rechargeable electric lawnmowers.
00:34:08.440 Not because the government's mandating it for me, though, and not because, you know,
00:34:14.120 they're going to ban my type of lawnmower in my area. I'm in an acreage. We're not there yet.
00:34:18.280 But it's because it looks practical and the prices have gotten reasonable and the charge
00:34:22.260 times of these things has gotten to the point where you know what I think that'll work for me
00:34:26.600 but that's the only way to change people's behaviors not through banning the use of things
00:34:32.460 you've got to come up with a product that's better than the last one first then people will switch
00:34:38.340 the same with the leaf blowers I've got a yeah I've got one of those leaf blowers and some of 0.98
00:34:41.840 the baloney that's come from the environmentalists when it came to that there was some crap and they 0.97
00:34:46.440 published that crap and I called them out not enough people did but some did where they said 0.99
00:34:51.080 I believe it was like one tank from a gas leaf blower gives the equivalent of greenhouse gases 0.99
00:34:56.640 out of a Ford F-150 driving from California to Alaska. Where do you guys come up with that
00:35:01.840 garbage? What, two liters of fuel somehow makes as much emissions as a pickup truck that would 0.97
00:35:07.360 have burned hundreds and hundreds of them going all the way to Alaska. That's ridiculous. It's 0.98
00:35:11.380 obscene, but that's the crap these guys put out there. Leaf blowers are loud. They're dusty. They 1.00
00:35:17.840 make a mess. But they've got a use. They got a use for landscapers. They got some people clear
00:35:22.280 snow with them, things like that. Once the electric ones get better, companies and individuals will
00:35:27.840 switch. Just leave it alone. Don't ban them. Don't make the ones they have already useless,
00:35:34.660 you know, and illegal. Boy, contraband leaf blowers. What a world we're getting into.
00:35:39.340 But that's what we're at. So Toronto's just don't, we're going to move. We're going to ban these
00:35:44.200 things because Toronto's not crappy enough, right? Let them have them. I mean, they've got,
00:35:51.780 you know, Olivia Chow is their mayor now, and Justin Trudeau has been doing a little cartwheels.
00:35:56.780 He's really happy about working together on her, with her, on turning Toronto into the woke 0.97
00:36:02.640 paradise he envisions. You know, maybe it's just time to accelerate the deterioration. Let's stop
00:36:08.220 trying to put the fires out and start maybe adding a little more fuel to them then. Maybe
00:36:14.660 that's what it's got to take. We've got to bottom out. It's got to get worse before it can get
00:36:18.500 better. Look at this crap. Here's one of the stories out. The budget officer, and it doesn't 1.00
00:36:25.140 seem to matter with the budget officer. Credit where due in this office, the budget officer
00:36:30.360 seems to be parliamentary budget officers being pretty independent and runs scathing reports on
00:36:35.680 government because of course the government's budget and finances are just a catastrophe.
00:36:40.640 But looking in this, it wants the fine print on the subsidies given to Volkswagen and Stellantis
00:36:46.880 for these battery factories. And that was a story in the standard recently too, that the cost that
00:36:52.800 the subsidies that are going into these battery factories are going to be more than the entire
00:36:58.000 auto manufacturing sector in Canada generates in a year. That's just the subsidies for these
00:37:04.080 these batteries. It's insane. And the parliamentary budget officer saying I require this information
00:37:10.300 and I'm entitled to free and timely access. So it sounds like it's already getting difficulty
00:37:13.760 getting the information. The government's already covering up their own crap. Of course, once they 0.99
00:37:16.840 threw those subsidies into it, the price went up just almost immediately afterwards. They blew
00:37:23.520 their budget before the budget got out of the gates. So yeah, we got a boondoggle of epic
00:37:29.580 proportions is going to come from these battery factories. I promise you that it's going to be
00:37:34.540 a disaster. Again, if it's feasible, it will come. Battery technology has gotten a lot better. That's
00:37:42.180 why we got those battery powered bikes, you know, battery assist that people take around. And you
00:37:46.020 even got stubborn guys like me saying he's going to get a battery lawnmower when his gas one gives
00:37:50.980 out, but you got to give it time. You can't force it. And that's what the government's trying to do
00:37:54.980 under Trudeau and his insane obsession with climate change is trying to do with this battery 0.99
00:38:00.280 crap. It's going to be just money poured into a black hole. And I assure you, within 10 years, 0.99
00:38:05.380 these things are going to be closed. And his E-sharp on the commenter saying that these battery
00:38:09.720 plants won't produce the jobs that the government says it will either. No, it won't. And somebody
00:38:13.480 calked it out. I think it was the Taxpayers Federation or something like that. But the jobs
00:38:17.080 are going to work out to something like $5 million a job. Come on, you guys. If the goal is job
00:38:23.780 creation. That's a really terrible, terrible number on doing it. Let's talk about some more
00:38:30.140 government idiocy. There's never a short supply for me to go on. Yes, this is, and this isn't 1.00
00:38:34.820 surprising because I've pointed this out online a lot because I like rubbing their noses in it a
00:38:38.140 bit. The government looks like they're going to censor Tommy Douglas. Yes, they've noticed.
00:38:43.800 They've noticed. This has always been there. It's always been in the wide open, but the left likes
00:38:46.960 to quietly not talk about it. Yes, he's the NDP founder. I mean, it was the CCF when he founded
00:38:52.700 it, but it was that, that's that prairie socialist party. He was a Saskatchewan premier, but he also
00:38:58.120 was a strong supporter of eugenics. And yes, that's the policy of sterilizing what people would see as
00:39:04.300 the undesirables and such. And Tommy Douglas talked about how we should sterilize people with a low
00:39:10.780 mental rating and, you know, moral standards below normal who were delinquent. He was talking about
00:39:17.780 He even, yeah, he talked about unwed mothers being, you know, how they're so subject to 0.85
00:39:22.800 social disease and to refer to them as if being prostitutes.
00:39:26.340 Now, those are views he held in the 30s, and those were the views of the times.
00:39:31.040 But the cancel crowd doesn't care.
00:39:35.020 But now they're starting to cancel their own.
00:39:37.240 Now they're starting to get after their own.
00:39:39.000 Tommy Douglas, St. Tommy Douglas, he's the man that the CBC said was the greatest Canadian
00:39:44.800 of all time. 0.93
00:39:45.380 if you remember that game show crap they did some years ago on our dime. Well, it sounds like 0.94
00:39:49.880 they're going to cancel him because in the 30s, he held some pretty gnarly views that, well,
00:39:56.020 aren't acceptable today. Maybe when they cancel enough of their own, tear down enough of their
00:40:00.400 own statues, rename enough schools and streets. I know I'm dreaming, but I'd like to think maybe
00:40:06.640 they'll realize just how damn stupid they are. Probably not, though. Probably not. We'll just 1.00
00:40:11.000 keep erasing history, keep pretending that everybody is evil, everybody's nasty, and just
00:40:16.940 shutting down everything when we can. Let's see, yeah, I was mentioning earlier, David, the port
00:40:23.440 worker strike, it's on again. Speaking of unions, speaking of dollars, this is bad, guys. It's going
00:40:30.220 on for weeks. Now, the West Coast port is huge, and it's responsible for a whole lot of our goods
00:40:35.060 coming in here. We got to get all our cheap Chinese-made Walmart stuff and dollar store
00:40:39.380 products from somewhere and they come from that port in Vancouver. People complain about, you know,
00:40:44.700 here's one of the areas where it gets complicated. A lot of people say we got to stop trade with
00:40:47.620 China, but they're the same people who complain about the price of everything's going up. We do 1.00
00:40:51.980 have a complicated, difficult thing to deal with here because yes, we could get out of it, but you
00:40:57.200 know, the mom and pop manufacturers and stores on the corners aren't going to be able to give you
00:41:01.880 those sorts of consumer products that the Chinese manufacturers do. We're going to get a bit of a 1.00
00:41:05.680 taste of that while all these products get bound up on the West Coast port right now.
00:41:10.140 But we got to start rethinking what these ports are. Canada, I believe there was a listing of
00:41:16.700 like hundreds and hundreds of ports around the world. And the West Coast port in Vancouver was
00:41:19.680 like the second to last inefficiency. It's terrible. It's terrible. It's slow. It's expensive.
00:41:25.480 And of course, everything that goes through there with it being inefficient adds to the cost of your
00:41:29.600 consumer product down the line. And what's part of the problem? It's the bloody union. It's out
00:41:35.040 write the union, guys. And that this union of longshoremen, I always liked those cool little
00:41:40.640 blue beanies they'd wear traditionally. I used to wear those in the oil field. But aside from that,
00:41:44.260 they're good for nothing. Guys, they're forklift operators. They're warehouse managers.
00:41:48.940 And they're making $130,000 a year on average each. And they've got the gall to strike. And
00:41:54.900 then when a settlement was actually reached, the union bypassed its own members and said,
00:41:58.900 no, that's not good enough. Go back out onto the picket line. But you see, it's not just the dollar
00:42:03.720 cents. They're protesting against. That's not just what they're striking against. They're striking
00:42:07.840 against automation. Yeah. Think about that. This is like the old milkman who used to have the horse
00:42:16.300 and wagon delivering your milk, trying to ban the advent of gasoline vehicles coming and putting
00:42:21.700 them out of business. It doesn't work. You can't fight automation advancement and development
00:42:27.160 forever. And it's going to cost the whole country, not just in this strike, but in their managing
00:42:33.620 to hinder the natural evolution of that port. Keep that port down in the bottom two or three 0.99
00:42:40.080 in efficiency around the world. And as they do that, we will pay a premium on everything we
00:42:47.260 bring into this country or everything we export. Can't forget that either. There's a lot of
00:42:52.160 products trying to get out and they're getting backed up and that harms the industries that
00:42:57.420 are trying to export. This is serious, serious stuff. It sounds like even the liberals, even
00:43:01.440 the liberals realize this. The old Seamus already, not our brightest star on Parliament Hill there,
00:43:07.400 but he's talking tough because they realize we've got to get this going. And that's going to be
00:43:11.580 interesting too. So Jagmeet Singh, of course, he's been in bed with the Trudeau government for quite
00:43:18.000 some time now, shoring him up, holding him up, keeping them in their position. But he's also,
00:43:23.500 of course, very heavily funded and tied with organized labor. Now, if Trudeau brings in,
00:43:29.380 and I suspect he's going to. They have to. The economic cost is too high. The impasse has gone
00:43:33.680 on too long. They're going to legislate these guys back to work. They're going to say that's
00:43:38.000 enough. Reagan already said it's an illegal strike. But what's old Jaggi going to do? 0.87
00:43:43.440 What are you going to do, Jagmeet? He's just getting weaker and weaker every time he props
00:43:48.820 up the Trudeau government. It's similar to what the Chinese interference issue and everything.
00:43:53.080 Singh will stand there and talk about how bad it is and how bad those Trudeaus have been, 0.90
00:43:55.980 for those liberals and the Trudeaus. But he won't do anything about it. He's the linchpin, guys.
00:44:02.960 He's the one holding them up. That government can be taken down or at least taken to task
00:44:08.040 any time. If Jagmeet Singh could find his courage, find his principles, and actually be a leader for
00:44:14.440 the first time in his life. But we'll see if this is going to be enough. When the government turns
00:44:19.540 on your precious organized labor, when the government you're shoring up, when the man who's
00:44:25.520 The Prime Minister, who you cuddled to sleep every night, is forcing those workers back onto the docks.
00:44:31.780 Are you still going to support them, Mr. Singh?
00:44:34.400 Are you still going to get behind them?
00:44:36.400 I got a feeling those union dollar donations might start drying up a little, might they?
00:44:41.480 But, I mean, this is going to cost, I mean, who knows what the numbers,
00:44:44.240 but they're talking about some of the backlog building up on the West Coast now,
00:44:47.900 taking into October to get out to us.
00:44:51.040 And we've got these discussions.
00:44:53.020 Everybody's worked up about cost of living.
00:44:54.460 I mean, they're celebrating, hey, look, we've hiked interest rates enough and we've pounded the economy hard enough that inflation slowed down.
00:45:02.080 Good. On everything, except food. Food's still shooting through the roof.
00:45:07.240 Well, again, that ties into a whole lot of things, and supply chains are part of them.
00:45:12.880 Unions are a part of it, getting it to the port.
00:45:14.920 Or, of course, I won't go down that rabbit hole today, but supply management, one of my favorite things I like to beat on is costing you all.
00:45:22.540 is the government ever seriously going to take on our cost of living problems? Are they ever
00:45:26.980 really going to worry about the price of our foods? I don't know. You know, Justin Trudeau,
00:45:32.540 I mean, how far the supply chain to him is walking into the kitchen at night and pouring his own bowl
00:45:37.300 of cereal once rather than having the chef do it because they're in bed already. He doesn't
00:45:41.980 understand what the challenges are for people on a budget. And he doesn't understand how the food
00:45:46.540 gets from the farm to his table after his chef has prepared it for him. So yeah, I don't hold
00:45:53.480 a hell of a lot of hope that he's going to make it better anytime in the near future. All right,
00:45:56.540 let's talk about somebody who does know about supply chains and does know about how the food
00:46:01.060 comes from the farms and gets on your table. And that is Jim Buzicum of the marketplace there.
00:46:08.660 He's going to tell us about what's going on out there. Hi, Jim. How are you doing?
00:46:12.000 Hey, good, Corey. How are you doing?
00:46:13.680 Very good. Glad to have you in today.
00:46:16.520 I just wanted to get a rant out of my system on some of these things,
00:46:19.800 but that's just more on the consumer level.
00:46:22.380 You represent the producer level, and there's quite a bit going on out there.
00:46:27.580 Yeah, I could join on that rant.
00:46:29.460 You're talking about the port closures and the strikes.
00:46:33.440 And yeah, it's a big deal on the consumer goods that you buy in from China and so on,
00:46:39.080 but big deal on exports i mean look at our country 35 million people look at all the resources that
00:46:46.100 we're trying to export i'm in the ag sector and there's product going out daily and it's backing
00:46:53.160 up it's not it's not just a matter of first of all it's not open but it's not a matter of just
00:46:58.020 being open and just everyone's back to normal again we got to catch up we need to meet our
00:47:03.980 contract requirements, our sales requirements to foreign buyers. And it's a mess right now.
00:47:11.280 On top of everything else that's happened over the last few years, we now are dealing with that
00:47:16.000 as well. So I understand what you're talking about there, just all too well.
00:47:21.820 It's large commodities and volumes of it that need to move and the ports are pretty
00:47:26.200 essential to it. Getting to that world market aspect, things kind of beyond our local control
00:47:32.340 though but i mean they're really impacting commodity prices the russia ukraine agreements
00:47:37.380 right now are having an impact yeah so russia definitely is making sure that grain corridor is
00:47:44.660 not open as i'm sure your listeners are aware of that odessa port was bombed yesterday last night
00:47:52.660 and damaged to a number of grain terminals there so there's certainly product not going to go out
00:47:58.580 of that port um how be it there is product moving inland it's a bit of a first to think that ukraine
00:48:07.100 is just exporting to starving countries quote-unquote starving countries most of their
00:48:12.380 grain is going to the best buyer that they can find not unlike anyone else for that matter and
00:48:19.020 that goes into western europe quite easily they have a lot of land border with western europe so
00:48:24.840 There's a lot of product going that way.
00:48:28.280 Yeah, so it's possible that some other countries do have to turn to Canada or United States or other exporting countries to buy some of their products.
00:48:36.980 We haven't really seen it in a big way yet.
00:48:38.840 The Canadian prices are just, in fact, much too high.
00:48:42.380 We've been struggling with consecutive droughts in Western Canada.
00:48:47.640 We have high price expectations at the farm gate.
00:48:51.440 I guess the farmers do.
00:48:52.380 I guess that's what I mean with that.
00:48:53.400 and so we're not all that competitive into some of those markets that maybe the Black Sea region
00:49:01.040 would normally go to but it could come if the war intensifies and more damages are done
00:49:06.820 so we'll have to see and then maybe I'll just carry right into the drought situation in western
00:49:14.680 Canada it it's again it's a severe drought across Alberta and Saskatchewan there's areas that have
00:49:23.020 received some pretty good rain so we're going to for sure have some production but it's probably
00:49:28.440 70 80 percent of normal which you know maybe sounds pretty good yet you'll still have quite
00:49:33.500 a bit of grain but 20 percent less of some of these commodities and you're also talking about
00:49:38.680 high cost of food this is not going to help bring down the cost of food to consumers we're looking
00:49:45.280 at tighter supplies again for another year in Canada pretty healthy export market if this
00:49:51.920 port ever gets figured out and it will. Yeah. And you know, price expectations are high at the farm
00:49:58.780 gate. So I'm sure food prices will stay high as well. Well, that's it. I mean, I guess it's kind
00:50:03.680 of the only consolation for a producer is a high price for the commodity they're producing, even if
00:50:07.660 the drought's been limiting their yield, but it's still that transfers down to a tougher time for
00:50:12.600 the consumer in the end. Yeah, exactly. So excellent. So I'll leave that with you, Corey.
00:50:19.900 Okay. I'll leave you back to watching those numbers and seeing what's coming. It's frustrating
00:50:25.000 with the things that are beyond our control, but we do everything we can.
00:50:28.100 All right. Take care. Thank you.
00:50:29.500 Thanks, Jim.
00:50:31.140 Jim Buzicom of Marketplace Commodities, guys, and that's his job. He looks at those things. He looks
00:50:35.980 at those trends. If you're a producer, you're in that industry, you're in that business. Those are
00:50:40.600 the guys to speak to, to try and maximize your business like any other one, Marketplace Commodities.
00:50:45.920 They know their stuff and they can always give you a good rundown on what's happening.
00:50:50.740 I mean, it is such a complicated field in general, right?
00:50:53.580 Like as I was talking about, supply chains, there's more to it than just what's produced
00:50:58.020 here and sold locally.
00:50:59.420 I mean, you've got different markets, different demand.
00:51:01.920 What are you trying to get out to in different areas, things like that.
00:51:05.320 And again, it's a big part of our economy in general in Canada.
00:51:10.220 And it's looking kind of scary in some ways.
00:51:13.260 You know, we've got a lot going on out there.
00:51:16.520 Nigel Hannaford, our opinion editor, wrote a fantastic piece just recently, again, on food prices.
00:51:21.300 And he talks a little bit, too, about people with how, you know, we're kind of spoiled over here, guys.
00:51:26.640 And that's what this port shutdown is going to let us know a little about, too.
00:51:30.500 You know, where do you think you're getting those tulips in summer or in spring from?
00:51:34.400 Well, they're getting shipped fast from Amsterdam, guys.
00:51:37.420 It's coming over here from those areas. 0.90
00:51:39.780 And, you know, where are you getting those avocados in January?
00:51:42.260 Well, those are coming up from Mexico.
00:51:44.780 And if you really are an environmentalist, you might want to start looking at eating a little more locally.
00:51:49.100 But that doesn't seem to have stopped the left when they want their avocado toast.
00:51:53.740 But when the price of the avocado quadruples, then they start to reevaluate where their source of food is coming from.
00:51:59.620 Then that reality check sort of starts to land home and people start to thinking about these things.
00:52:07.120 And we've got a lot to think about, guys.
00:52:09.400 I'll finish with the other because it's going to tie into next week.
00:52:12.260 I believe I've got Shane Winslow, and he's with Shane Holmes. He's a home builder. And we've got
00:52:17.060 immigration targets. This discussion's happened a lot. The government wants to bring in 500,000
00:52:22.040 immigrants a year. Now, what we've got going on right now is a pyramid scheme, kind of. We've got 1.00
00:52:27.360 people aging. We're demanding more and more from the system, pensions, health care, all of these
00:52:33.100 things. Meanwhile, the younger demographic is getting smaller as a percentage goes. So the way
00:52:39.380 the government's been feeling that is bringing in loads and loads of immigrants to work and keep 1.00
00:52:44.380 contributing into the system to keep that pyramid growing. And I mean, it's good. We need it. We've
00:52:49.720 got a labor shortage. There's a fantastic skilled immigrants coming from all over. It's good for our
00:52:54.140 economy. It's good for all of us. But, but we have to have somewhere to put them when they get here.
00:53:01.700 Our housing is not nearly keeping up with the targets on how many people they want to bring
00:53:07.020 this is just math. It isn't opinion on whether having more immigrants or less is a good thing 0.97
00:53:11.040 or a bad thing. It's just saying they need somewhere to live. We're a winter country.
00:53:14.640 What do you expect these people to do when they get here? So I'm going to talk to Shane Wenzel
00:53:20.180 because part of the problem is our governments are in the way and they slow and they hinder and
00:53:25.540 they regulate to death the development and construction of new homes. If we're going to
00:53:29.880 build new homes fast and safely and affordably, we really have to reevaluate all of the handicaps 1.00
00:53:36.480 we've been putting on developers and builders in building those places. So looking forward to that
00:53:41.060 discussion because we need to apply a little common sense because we do need to keep bringing
00:53:45.120 people in, but we also need to make sure that we can house people. And plus the people living here
00:53:50.720 right now with the cost of living and rents and homes is way through the roof. And the only way
00:53:55.140 to solve that is increasing supply. Again, that's just math. All right. That's all I got this week.
00:54:00.720 Thanks for tuning in guys. I think that was a good show. It was really good talking to a couple of
00:54:05.160 those folks on those things. So come in next week at this time, we'll have a lot more to cover.
00:54:11.300 And yeah, I appreciate you tuning in. I'll see you next week.
00:54:15.700 The current Lethbridge feed grain prices are as follows. Cash barley is steady at $4.35.
00:54:21.300 Feed wheat is also steady at $4.20. And corn is up $5 at $401 per ton.
00:54:27.440 In the milling wheat markets, September Minneapolis futures jumped 59 cents at 7.30,
00:54:32.820 with local hard red spring bid for July movement at $10.50 per bushel.
00:54:38.660 In the oilseeds, nearby canola futures increased $18 at $851.40 per ton
00:54:44.660 with delivered values for August movement at $19.53 per bushel.
00:54:50.580 In the pulse markets, nearby red lentil prices are trading at $0.34 per pound
00:54:54.780 and yellow peas remain at $11.50 per bushel.
00:54:57.940 In the cattle markets, August live cattle are lower 57.5 cents at $180.70 per hundredweight.
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