Western Standard - CMS： with Premier Danielle Smith on immigration.

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00:01:30.000 Good day. Welcome to the Corey Morgan Show.

00:01:36.060 We've got a good one this week. I like to think they're all good.

00:01:38.040 Some are better than others. We've got to get realistic with things.

00:01:41.760 And yeah, today's a good one. It's really addressing a pressing issue.

00:01:44.700 In a little while, I will have Premier Daniel Smith on.

00:01:48.280 It was actually a recorded interview. We rarely do that here.

00:01:50.620 But, you know, the Premier's schedule is tight and I just couldn't get her on live. 0.93

00:01:53.820 So when that runs, though, I mean, I still, it's going to be running live on here.

00:01:58.300 Use the comment area. Send your comments, ideas, questions on there.

00:02:04.100 And I can address them after the interview.

00:02:06.800 Interact with each other. I like you seeing that comment scroll being used.

00:02:09.540 It reminds me that we are live. Just keep things civil.

00:02:12.480 Good to see you there, Rusty and Paradoxy.

00:02:14.960 And others, feel free to check in.

00:02:17.440 And, of course, there's going to be the rest of the news and other things going.

00:02:20.300 So I'm going to start things off on a federal note. 0.99

00:02:22.780 One of my pet subjects, our imbecile of a prime minister and his behavior of late. 0.99

00:02:27.880 Well, as always. 0.99

00:02:29.360 So, I mean, the Trudeau government, though, they've been on the ropes for over a year.

00:02:33.580 Polls have been abysmal and it appears nothing's going to turn them around.

00:02:37.080 So changing the leader of their party, I mean, it could improve their fortunes.

00:02:40.380 It worked for the Democratic Party south of the border.

00:02:42.560 Sure, but Trudeau appears to be stubbornly unwilling to step aside no matter how unpopular he becomes.

00:02:48.640 Now, the clock's ticking for the liberals.

00:02:50.220 They've got to be getting stressed.

00:02:51.400 I mean, unless Trudeau steps down within the next couple of months,

00:02:54.740 the liberals won't be able to hold a leadership and have a new leader well enough established

00:02:58.280 to head into an election in less than a year.

00:03:00.540 They're basically going to have to accept them and get used to it.

00:03:04.420 Aside from the usual campaign of trying to label all their opponents as being far right,

00:03:09.160 you know, and scary and all that usual garbage,

00:03:11.080 as the liberal tactic of trying to spend their way back into the hearts of Canadians has continued.

00:03:16.060 Hardly a day goes by without a new spending announcement.

00:03:19.300 And with over a year expected at least to pass before the next general election,

00:03:23.400 the Trudeau government's on track to spend Canadians into poverty for generations.

00:03:27.340 The latest announcement comes from Napanee, Ontario,

00:03:29.800 where a Goodyear plant is going to be getting 44 million tax dollars for an expansion.

00:03:34.820 Goodyear's a large multinational corporation does not need corporate welfare from Canadians.

00:03:39.740 They're not going to say no when Trudeau comes prancing in with a signed check from taxpayers in his hand,

00:03:45.000 but they don't need it.

00:03:46.520 The ones who are in need are the desperate liberals,

00:03:48.420 and they're praying that somehow through corporate handouts,

00:03:51.140 the potential new jobs they might create may reverse the downward spiral in the polls.

00:03:55.720 It hasn't worked yet, but they're still doggedly trying,

00:03:58.900 and it's pretty easy to do when you're writing checks with somebody else's checkbook.

00:04:01.520 The subsidies are adding up to tens of billions of tax dollars

00:04:05.060 when the mad lust for investing in battery plants to service electric vehicles that nobody wants is added up.

00:04:11.800 While automakers are backing off from EV targets and cutting production,

00:04:15.440 Canadians are having their tax dollars poured into companies with a mandate to supply EV manufacturing. 0.99

00:04:20.260 In other words, a really stupid business decision and a recipe for financial disaster. 0.99

00:04:24.840 Then there's the public service. 0.99

00:04:26.080 With a decade in power, the Liberal government's managed to bloat the already grossly large civil service by 40%.

00:04:32.460 Services haven't gotten any better, though.

00:04:34.720 We just have more people underserving us than ever before at a higher cost than we ever possibly could have imagined.

00:04:40.420 Many of them went on strike last year,

00:04:42.160 and more have since been threatening labor action over having to come to the office more than two days a week.

00:04:47.500 Job growth in the private sector in Canada remains stagnant.

00:04:50.300 So that means we've got a smaller pool of people having to work more to pay a larger number of people to work less.

00:04:56.080 Private sector workers are becoming tired,

00:04:58.260 and as much as Trudeau is trying to change that private-to-public ratio to win an election,

00:05:02.700 there won't be enough civil servants hired to turn around an election. 0.99

00:05:05.360 But they sure will break us.

00:05:06.860 Trudeau's partnership with Singh's NDP is costing a fortune, too.

00:05:10.180 I mean, come on, nationalized dental services, daycare services, lunchroom services, pharmacare services,

00:05:14.640 they're adding up to more billions of dollars that we can ill afford.

00:05:18.200 Clearly, though, the Trudeau government still somehow fears that Singh might pull the pin on their government,

00:05:23.560 you know, if he ever found his knackers and some courage.

00:05:26.980 Singh's as happy as he's ever going to be,

00:05:28.800 and if he tries to, you know, he tries to talk tough now and then,

00:05:31.400 but he's not going to go into an election.

00:05:32.700 He doesn't want to go anywhere than Trudeau does.

00:05:35.460 But the liberals are still tossing billions into NDP initiatives to be on the safe side.

00:05:39.480 Trudeau's government used to at least pretend they had a plan to reach a balanced budget one day,

00:05:44.060 but they've tossed out those pretenses of fiscal responsibility and just now plan to increase the national debt indefinitely.

00:05:51.320 You know, Trudeau has realized that budgets don't balance themselves finally,

00:05:54.600 but the problem is he doesn't care.

00:05:56.580 Government spending just keeps rising with the debt.

00:05:59.080 It's anticipated that the program spending is going to increase by another 18% by 28-29,

00:06:05.260 if trends continue as they have.

00:06:06.340 That estimate's going to keep growing as the announcements keep coming.

00:06:08.900 The cost for servicing the debt's nearing $50 billion a year.

00:06:12.080 Think about that.

00:06:12.680 $50 billion a year in interest payments is flushing money down the toilet,

00:06:16.540 and it's as much as the federal government spends on health care.

00:06:20.180 Worst of all, it's the future generations who are going to be left with the bill.

00:06:23.240 Trudeau, he's eventually going to be tossed from office.

00:06:26.320 He's never soon enough.

00:06:28.060 He'll retire on some private island, live out his life in luxury.

00:06:31.280 Meanwhile, young Canadians are going to have years of austerity

00:06:33.680 when budgets have to be cut and taxes have to be risen

00:06:36.560 when the nation hits the inevitable fiscal wall. 0.98

00:06:39.180 Trudeau is the most irresponsible, selfish prime minister in Canadian history. 0.90

00:06:43.040 He has no qualms about indebting generations in a desperate attempt to remain in power. 0.97

00:06:48.000 Some people think that Trudeau should remain in power until the next election

00:06:50.260 because his terrible leadership provides an advantage to the Conservative Party. 0.97

00:06:53.560 This might be true, but the price to keep that fool in power any longer than we have to is much too high. 0.97

00:06:58.360 Trudeau is clearly never going to discover the concepts of personal accountability 0.93

00:07:02.280 or empathy for struggling Canadians, but perhaps some Liberal caucus members will.

00:07:06.760 They have to pressure that clown to resign as strongly as possible and as soon as possible. 0.86

00:07:10.720 We just can't afford to keep him there any longer. 0.96

00:07:14.380 All right, well, that's kind of got me going.

00:07:15.980 It's just, I can't, you know, opening the news and finding more spending, more spending.

00:07:20.140 We just can't keep doing it, guys.

00:07:22.480 Well, we'll see.

00:07:23.360 All right, let's see what the hell else is going on out there.

00:07:24.980 We've got our news editor, Dave Naylor, in studio with us today.

00:07:28.140 Hey, Dave, what's topping the scroll today?

00:07:30.380 Hey, it's nice to see you in a tie again.

00:07:32.720 Yeah.

00:07:32.980 You probably forgot you were wearing that, didn't you?

00:07:34.860 It's just a temporary measure going on right now.

00:07:38.360 There you go.

00:07:38.880 I can't forget these things throttled.

00:07:40.100 Hey, nice get having the Premier on.

00:07:42.860 That's always good, eh?

00:07:43.860 Yeah, well, you know, Premier Smith's been getting a lot of flack over the immigration issue.

00:07:47.720 She wanted to clarify a bunch of stuff, so...

00:07:49.640 Yeah, I'm interested in hearing what she has to say.

00:07:52.040 Leading off today, Corey, with a really disturbing story out of Calgary, where a dead kitten was found with its head sort of caved in and zip-tied to a fence post in the community of Kingsland.

00:08:06.500 So that's prompted a big Calgary Humane Society investigation.

00:08:11.020 And it turns out that since May, the end of May 30th, they found six kittens in and around that Kingsland, Sandy Beach area that have been abused and had their, like, paws tied together and covered in tar and stuff like that.

00:08:25.500 So there is one really sicko individual out there.

00:08:31.620 We've got our columnist, the Ruby... 0.95

00:08:33.620 Sorry, Jaime Rubenstein, expert on Indigenous affairs, talking about the trend now to fake your Indigenous identity to get funding, federal funding for your business or whatever it may be.

00:08:46.920 And that's a good read.

00:08:48.120 A big hailstorm is continuing to wreak havoc on WestJet.

00:08:52.700 You should see some of the pictures of the wings of the plane just dented.

00:08:57.040 And they've had to cancel 600 flights since the storm last week.

00:09:01.460 And if you phone the passenger hotline, you're told three days until an agent can get back there.

00:09:06.900 So that's upsetting a lot of people.

00:09:09.020 And interestingly, during their little strike last month in July, they ranked dead last in North American Airlines for arriving on time.

00:09:18.340 So I don't see their August stats picking up any time soon.

00:09:23.140 As you know, Corey, Winnipeg, the Canadian capital of Slurpee consumption.

00:09:29.120 They love their Slurpees in Winnipeg.

00:09:31.380 And they may have to go a bit further to get it.

00:09:33.920 So now the corporation has announced they're closing 10 7-Elevens because of crime.

00:09:39.840 And they're just in crime-ridden neighborhoods.

00:09:42.020 And it's just not worth their while to stay open anymore.

00:09:45.280 You know, it's like shades of San Francisco and stuff like that.

00:09:50.720 Algerian boxer Califf was the boxer in the ladies' competition with male chromosomes. 0.84

00:09:59.620 She is suing everybody and their dog for defamation during the Olympics, including Elon Musk and Donald Trump and Arthur J.K. Rowling.

00:10:10.720 So French officials are investigating and we'll have to see what happens there.

00:10:16.900 And the liberals have resorted to their old tactic of blame Stephen Harper.

00:10:21.000 This time it's for letting those two ISIS terrorists into the country and letting them go live in Toronto where they're planning to kill as many people as they can. 0.96

00:10:33.000 All Stephen Harper's fault. 0.99

00:10:34.740 Shame on Mr. Harper.

00:10:35.960 Coming up this afternoon, right now, when NASA is holding a press conference on those poor stranded astronauts who went up for a weekend and now may be stuck there until next year.

00:10:48.120 So our own space geek, Sean Polzer, will be filing a story on that.

00:10:53.640 And our opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford, is pecking away on a column on what's happening in Great Britain now.

00:11:00.560 So, you know, I had some bad rioting and now people who are saying things on Facebook are being thrown in jail for more than a year.

00:11:09.240 It's kind of what, like Trudeau's proposing, you know, on these online harms bills.

00:11:14.340 So he's taking a look at that and I'm sure it's going to be interesting.

00:11:18.560 Well, lots on the burner.

00:11:20.720 Always lots on the go.

00:11:21.880 All right.

00:11:22.620 Well, I'll let you get back at chasing those reporters around and keeping us all up to date on these fantastic happenings.

00:11:29.460 I'll do my best.

00:11:30.560 Thanks.

00:11:31.320 Thanks.

00:11:31.960 All right.

00:11:32.440 As you heard, that is our news editor, Dave Naylor.

00:11:34.620 And yes, lots on the go.

00:11:35.960 Boy, that kitten story, that's the first I'd heard of it, actually.

00:11:39.100 I guess that's just, that's awful.

00:11:40.660 There's something extra horrible about animal abusers, you know.

00:11:45.040 I think it's part of why we get more upset when we hear about, you know, a senior citizen being attacked or a child or an animal is that they're helpless, right?

00:11:55.080 You know, it's one thing if a grown person's assaulting another, it's still never good.

00:11:58.400 Violence is never good.

00:11:59.160 But kittens, good Lord.

00:12:01.620 You know, these are the things that we really need to take seriously.

00:12:04.880 I mean, with some of the most horrible killers and, you know, sadistic individuals we get out there in the world that we run across,

00:12:14.380 almost always they have a history of violence towards animals.

00:12:18.260 They start there.

00:12:19.780 So let's catch this person in Calgary and any other animal abusers as soon as possible and just get this dealt with.

00:12:26.760 What a horrible, horrible thing to think of.

00:12:29.900 So this is the time I'd like to remind you, too.

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00:13:18.100 You know, there's a dark side to that.

00:13:21.000 And it's interesting, you know, the little trivia things you find out.

00:13:23.060 So, yeah, Winnipeg is the Slurpee capital of Canada. 1.00

00:13:27.320 I didn't know that.

00:13:28.460 You know, you wouldn't think that.

00:13:29.740 So, okay, it was popular for Slurpees.

00:13:31.820 And now 11, 7-Elevens are being shut down within Winnipeg because of the high crime.

00:13:37.660 Something that's making a lot of news lately has been the list of the highest crime cities in the country.

00:13:43.640 And people sometimes aren't thinking, you know, they're wondering, why isn't it the great big cities?

00:13:48.020 It's smaller cities.

00:13:48.980 And you look at who's topping it, and it's like Kamloops, and it's Chilliwack, and it's Red Deer, Alberta.

00:13:55.800 It's Lethbridge.

00:13:56.760 It's North Battleford.

00:13:58.580 It's these smaller cities, Saskatoon, Regina, and Winnipeg.

00:14:03.140 This is, you know, we were talking about immigration.

00:14:05.160 We're talking about challenges and things that happen.

00:14:06.620 This has nothing to do with immigration, actually.

00:14:09.240 It is a social thing, though, and it's a demographic thing.

00:14:12.740 It's one of the things we really do need to discuss.

00:14:14.420 It's a sensitive area, very sensitive, but it shows how we, it's not a coincidence, excuse

00:14:21.240 me, that every one of the cities that top the crime lists of violent crimes are also the

00:14:27.520 cities that top the percentage of having Indigenous populations.

00:14:32.380 And see, this is where it gets delicate because you don't want to label every Indigenous person

00:14:35.880 as a criminal.

00:14:36.260 Of course not.

00:14:37.160 I mean, the vast majority of them are not.

00:14:39.880 But they're very, very socially troubled, economically troubled.

00:14:44.960 I mean, part of it is they're coming from reserves, they're settling in cities, and they're having a 0.79

00:14:48.800 very difficult time adapting to city life.

00:14:52.320 But we can't dodge and hide from that pattern.

00:14:56.280 We can't ignore the reality that this is, you know, among the many measures.

00:15:04.420 They've got shorter life expectancies, bigger health problems, lower graduation rates.

00:15:08.620 We have to accept that the system is failing.

00:15:11.880 It's failing everybody, but it's failing the Indigenous people the most.

00:15:14.800 This two parallel systems, this race-based policy we have.

00:15:20.060 The irony is, a lot of what messed up the Indigenous population socially over the generations was 1.00

00:15:26.520 race-based policy to begin with.

00:15:28.340 They were terribly treated.

00:15:29.560 They weren't allowed to leave reserves without talking to an Indian agent first.

00:15:33.460 They were treated with a lot of terrible racism from people when they would leave the reserves.

00:15:37.740 There was a lot of bad things done.

00:15:39.920 But we're trying to fix it by applying more race-based policy. 0.83

00:15:44.120 Guys, what we need to do is get race out of policy.

00:15:47.160 We need to have discussions about what's working and what's not working.

00:15:50.720 And this is not working for our First Nations in Canada right now,

00:15:54.700 and for other people who live in areas where the social disorder is spreading.

00:15:58.840 Okay, now another issue.

00:15:59.980 We're going to get into that right away here with my guest.

00:16:02.540 As I said, it's recorded.

00:16:03.460 Keep the comments coming, guys.

00:16:04.640 I'll read them while the interview is going.

00:16:07.720 I had to record it with Premier Smith.

00:16:10.420 But she'd recently, you know, well, not recently, but it recently kind of hit the news

00:16:12.900 about an interview she did where she talked about doubling the population of Alberta.

00:16:16.600 A lot of people were wondering, what the heck is she talking about?

00:16:18.960 What's she going on about?

00:16:20.340 And Premier Smith kindly came on the show and gave us 15 minutes to explain where she's

00:16:24.760 coming from with immigration and what Alberta can do about it. 1.00

00:16:28.620 So let's run that and listen to Premier Smith, and we can have a discussion on immigration.

00:16:33.200 Well, thank you very much for joining us today, Premier Smith, on an issue that's really, well,

00:16:42.620 a sensitive one and a big one with a lot of people, and that's immigration.

00:16:47.000 Every level of government is dealing with it.

00:16:48.440 Every citizen is dealing with it.

00:16:51.020 I guess you kind of unexpectedly brought it into the fore again with an interview you did last January.

00:16:56.580 Perhaps if we could start there, we're just kind of clarifying.

00:16:59.920 You'd spoken of aspiring to have Alberta double its population by 2050, and it got a lot of people

00:17:06.180 pretty worked up.

00:17:07.460 Can you kind of expand on that a little?

00:17:09.760 Well, my thinking about it was that we were already growing at 200,000 a year based on those numbers.

00:17:16.980 So if you just do the math, by 25 years, it would be 5 million population.

00:17:21.080 And I have often thought that we would have more political clout if we had a higher population

00:17:26.800 than Quebec.

00:17:28.220 But what I'm seeing, and I'm doing a lot of roundtables and town halls across the province,

00:17:32.940 people are worried.

00:17:34.040 People are very nervous about our ability to be able to keep up with that pace of growth.

00:17:39.660 And I think we're beginning to see it.

00:17:41.560 So I'm listening to people.

00:17:43.140 I'm having to recalibrate a little bit on what our aspirations should be.

00:17:48.060 I think what we really need is a sensible immigration policy, similar to what we had 0.85

00:17:52.960 under Stephen Harper, where we had a point system for bringing people in.

00:17:57.040 We made sure that newcomers matched the economic needs of our economy.

00:18:01.000 We made sure that we had a level of newcomers coming to our country that matched our ability

00:18:05.640 to keep up with housing.

00:18:07.220 And I think what we're seeing is that, especially in Alberta, we're beginning to feel some of

00:18:13.080 the pressure of that growth.

00:18:14.000 And I think that that's what people are responding to.

00:18:15.800 Yeah, and I'd crunch the numbers because, I mean, as soon as I first heard it, I thought,

00:18:19.620 boy, that's a pretty fast growth.

00:18:20.920 And then I realized, well, actually, with where things went in 2023, if we sustain the

00:18:24.640 current growth we're at, we will double by 2050, whether we aspire to do so or not.

00:18:29.560 So the discussion has to be, I mean, you can't slow immigration.

00:18:33.640 That would be a federal move anyhow.

00:18:36.040 But we really have to better deal with it.

00:18:38.460 I mean, our health care is having a really hard time keeping up with our existing population.

00:18:42.080 Housing is really pressuring people, the education system.

00:18:47.300 So I guess through better targeting, we could better adjust to that and have them contribute

00:18:53.760 to the growth that we need.

00:18:55.420 But is that going to be enough?

00:18:57.020 Like the numbers just sound so staggeringly large.

00:18:59.560 Well, I think what we, I think 2023 may have been an anomaly.

00:19:03.740 I think one of it was that when I got elected, we'd started into the Alberta is Calling campaign.

00:19:09.320 And there was a good reason for doing that.

00:19:11.280 I mean, we'd had 13 quarters of out-migration.

00:19:14.100 We knew that we were going to turn around with an oil and gas and other building boom,

00:19:17.480 and we needed to have workers here.

00:19:19.300 But I think that it was more successful than anybody anticipated it being,

00:19:24.420 in part because we were one of the first provinces to firmly put COVID behind us

00:19:29.940 and the pandemic behind us so that I think a lot of freedom lovers came to our province

00:19:33.720 knowing that we were taking a bit of a different approach.

00:19:36.140 I think as well that the housing proposition was such a good one.

00:19:39.520 We still have several markets in Alberta that are the cheapest in North America.

00:19:43.900 I think Edmonton and Red Deer in particular.

00:19:46.100 And of course, it coincided with the Ukrainian evacuees as well,

00:19:50.140 70,000 of whom came to Alberta during that period of time.

00:19:53.400 And the remarkable thing is almost all of them got jobs.

00:19:55.600 We just did a recent assessment of how many are on social supports,

00:19:58.880 and it was only about 1,700.

00:20:00.660 So I think those factors were part of what led to the surge and grow.

00:20:06.480 So part of what we've done is we've really scaled back that Alberta's Calling campaign

00:20:13.040 just to target the skilled workers that we need.

00:20:15.660 We're trying to get an additional 2,000 skilled workers to come here

00:20:19.020 so that we can keep up with the building growth of homes,

00:20:21.600 keep up with the major industrial projects that we have in the industrial heartland

00:20:25.500 and in the agri-food processing area and in the forestry sector.

00:20:29.240 So that's part of how we have responded to that.

00:20:32.600 But I do think that the federal government has clearly led all of the different streams

00:20:39.060 of immigration get beyond the ability of the Canadian governments 1.00

00:20:44.760 and provincial governments to be able to properly support.

00:20:48.960 And you're seeing it.

00:20:49.740 I mean, at the Halifax Conference, every single premier was raising the concern

00:20:54.240 about the increase in housing prices, increase in rents,

00:20:57.560 the number of people using food bank, the number of people who are newcomers

00:21:00.680 who are using shelters, the impact on education system,

00:21:04.520 the difficulty finding a family doctor.

00:21:06.820 I think Albertans want to be able to embrace newcomers

00:21:10.860 who are going to participate in our economy,

00:21:12.440 but we have to do so at a rate that allows us to keep up with home construction,

00:21:16.580 as well as keeping up with being able to provide all of those services.

00:21:20.360 And right now, there is just way too much pressure on each of those.

00:21:23.920 We're feeling it in government.

00:21:25.180 I think regular Albertans are feeling it as well.

00:21:27.900 And that's why we need to return to a more sensible kind of immigration policy

00:21:31.060 like we used to have.

00:21:32.700 So another area, and it's a more sensitive one,

00:21:35.080 but people really need to address it,

00:21:36.640 particularly when we see what's going on in the UK.

00:21:38.720 is people culturally integrating.

00:21:42.280 I mean, some cultures have an easier time adapting.

00:21:45.760 I mean, Ukraine's got a similar climate.

00:21:48.400 There's a lot of Ukrainian people who had settled in Alberta previously,

00:21:51.280 so they could quickly adapt to being here.

00:21:54.640 From some of the countries, and they're countries that need,

00:21:56.820 I mean, they have refugees that are coming.

00:21:58.360 They're fleeing some terrible situations,

00:22:00.280 but they can have a hard time integrating with the existing population.

00:22:05.520 And people fear it might lead to the sorts of clashes and events

00:22:09.400 that we're seeing in Europe right now.

00:22:11.400 What could we do to, I guess, calm people

00:22:13.620 and prevent that sort of cultural clash from happening here over time?

00:22:17.760 Yeah, I think you've identified another reason for unease.

00:22:20.760 People are looking around the world,

00:22:22.040 and they're seeing that these disputes are spilling over

00:22:25.940 into a number of different societies.

00:22:27.800 And I don't think Albertans want to see disputes from other countries

00:22:31.160 spill out into the streets here.

00:22:32.580 And I think we've done a really good job of making sure

00:22:35.380 that people are coming here for the values that we have in Alberta.

00:22:39.560 I mean, we value family and faith and community

00:22:42.320 and free enterprise and philanthropy.

00:22:44.020 And there's so many, many cultures around the world

00:22:47.060 who are coming here so that they can live here in peace and harmony

00:22:50.440 and have religious freedom and be able to raise their families

00:22:52.800 and have a good job or start a business.

00:22:54.560 And that's what we want to keep on doing.

00:22:56.080 That's why having an economic focus on immigration makes so much sense.

00:23:00.360 It assists with integration, and it assists with making sure

00:23:04.100 that those international disputes don't spill over into Alberta.

00:23:08.160 So we have to be very mindful of the nervousness people have

00:23:11.960 when they look around the world

00:23:12.980 and make sure that we're doing everything we can.

00:23:15.700 Because if we don't have the ability to provide the supports,

00:23:19.340 the English language learning, that first job,

00:23:21.700 the ability to have wraparound supports,

00:23:23.500 to get a person into a community to be able to support them long term,

00:23:28.080 that's when you end up with people feeling disenfranchised.

00:23:31.040 That's when you end up with having some of that anger spill over.

00:23:36.460 And I think we've done a great job of being able to avoid that.

00:23:39.160 And so I'm not as concerned about where we find ourselves now,

00:23:43.400 but I am mindful that this level of continued pressure in Alberta

00:23:50.600 is something that is going to be something we have to address.

00:23:54.760 We don't want for it to spill over into people feeling like

00:23:58.760 there are too many newcomers coming to our province. 1.00

00:24:01.920 We want to make sure people will continue,

00:24:03.800 as they always have, to embrace newcomers.

00:24:05.400 But I think that the problem that we've seen

00:24:09.600 is that everybody is feeling the increase in the cost of housing,

00:24:14.100 increase in cost of living,

00:24:15.980 and the fact that we have a federal government

00:24:18.260 who's essentially thrown out the immigration rules of the past.

00:24:21.980 And that is what's creating pressure,

00:24:23.360 not only here, but through to Quebec and every other province as well.

00:24:26.560 It was part of the reason it was such a major topic of conversation

00:24:28.980 when the premiers got together at the last round in Halifax.

00:24:32.420 Well, and some of the issue is just sheer volume.

00:24:35.120 I mean, you know, some fantastic people coming,

00:24:37.200 but you can only accommodate so many at so much of a speed.

00:24:42.160 Quebec has always been outspoken

00:24:43.580 and at least, you know, controls as much as they can provincially

00:24:46.200 in immigration, even though at the base of it,

00:24:48.540 it is a federal thing.

00:24:49.840 Are there more policies we can look forward to from Alberta

00:24:52.480 to try and take more control, at least of our own destiny,

00:24:55.100 as to controlling immigration for ourselves?

00:24:59.220 Well, let me tell you the way I'm looking at this.

00:25:01.540 So we're about 12% of the population,

00:25:03.360 and yet we ended up with 22% of the newcomers in the 22-23 calendar year.

00:25:10.500 That gives you an idea of just how much additional pressure it is

00:25:15.340 that we've been bearing.

00:25:16.860 The other thing I would say is that our home builders have been amazing

00:25:19.740 because they've seen the extra pressure.

00:25:21.660 So they've massively wrapped up their construction,

00:25:24.400 and now we're building 56% more houses this year than we did last year,

00:25:29.000 which would allow for us to build about 40,000 homes this year,

00:25:33.100 which they tell me can accommodate about 100,000 people.

00:25:35.780 So that is going flat out.

00:25:37.320 So I hope that that gives you some idea of what I've seen our housing capability is,

00:25:43.820 as well as what I'm seeing in the social services area.

00:25:47.040 We know that we're seeing an increased pressure in shelter on food banks,

00:25:53.180 and we want to make sure that that doesn't continue.

00:25:55.500 So part of the approach that I've always taken is that I've watched what Quebec has done.

00:26:00.520 Quebec has the ability to choose about 55% of the newcomers that come to Quebec

00:26:05.120 because they're choosing on the basis of language.

00:26:07.600 I just saw recently that Quebec wants to take over their entire immigration choices.

00:26:14.780 And whereas in Alberta, we only get the ability to choose about 9,500 of the newcomers

00:26:21.460 through our provincial nominee program.

00:26:23.340 It seems to me that having more ability for us to use that program

00:26:27.380 so that we can attach workers to the jobs that are available

00:26:30.920 and make sure that we have the supports of the communities around them,

00:26:34.140 that would make a lot of sense.

00:26:35.240 So I have been advocating for that, that we should be able to, much more like Quebec,

00:26:40.600 have greater ability to have the selection over those who do come to Alberta

00:26:45.560 so that we can make sure that they're going to be a good fit

00:26:48.860 and also be able to seamlessly integrate and be able to have the jobs

00:26:53.080 and the social supports to support them.

00:26:55.000 Then I'll continue advocating for that.

00:26:56.540 But the general issue is that we simply as a country cannot bring in 1.2 million people.

00:27:02.640 That is, I believe, through all the different streams, the family stream,

00:27:07.400 the refugee stream, the student stream, the temporary foreign worker stream,

00:27:11.480 and the regular immigration stream that came in in 2023.

00:27:15.960 And I think we've just seen, whether it's in Alberta or Quebec or elsewhere,

00:27:19.580 that there just isn't the ability for the provinces to keep up

00:27:22.500 and there just isn't the ability for the housing market to keep up.

00:27:24.960 Back in Mulroney's day, I think Mulroney had 250,000 newcomers.

00:27:30.680 That was his immigration target. 0.93

00:27:32.600 It advanced more under Harper.

00:27:34.140 I don't quite know what the numbers are.

00:27:35.880 But going back to something that is based on what is our ability

00:27:40.520 to be able to effectively build houses and support newcomers,

00:27:43.920 that's got to be the number.

00:27:44.920 It can't just be an open borders policy without limit.

00:27:48.060 It's just creating way too much pressure on every province's social programs.

00:27:52.560 And it's also putting a lot of pressure on people being able to aspire

00:27:57.420 to ultimately have a home one day

00:27:59.160 or ultimately be able to have an affordable rental suite.

00:28:01.940 Those things are all connected.

00:28:03.240 And we have to make sure that we're taking care of Albertans.

00:28:06.020 Yeah.

00:28:06.560 And so before I let you go, I mean, there's some reactionary people

00:28:09.700 who say we shouldn't have any immigration.

00:28:11.200 That's unreasonable.

00:28:12.060 Immigration is a net benefit to us. 0.54

00:28:13.760 We do well with immigration and it's important.

00:28:17.140 But as you said, the 1.2 million a year is unsustainable as well.

00:28:20.760 Do you have a sort of number you think that maybe a unified premier

00:28:23.820 could be asking the federal government to just tap the brakes on

00:28:26.620 and bring us to that's sustainable?

00:28:28.300 Well, you know, I guess is there like a 1% kind of target?

00:28:32.000 If you look at we have 40 million people in Canada right now,

00:28:34.380 if it was 1%, that would be about 400,000.

00:28:36.580 When I look at whether or not our share would be able to accommodate that,

00:28:40.400 I think we probably could if you look at our historical growth

00:28:43.480 before we ended up with a major downturn in our economy

00:28:46.540 that lasted for so many years.

00:28:48.240 So maybe that's the right number.

00:28:49.460 I mean, there's probably smarter people than me who can figure that out.

00:28:53.100 But I can just tell you from what I have now observed

00:28:55.840 about trying to provide the services to accommodate folks

00:29:01.120 who came here through 2023,

00:29:02.840 I think we had the ability to do some of that more effectively

00:29:06.220 because we had had so many years of decline

00:29:08.520 and we had some housing projects that had started up.

00:29:12.700 And so we were able to, I think, do a pretty good job

00:29:15.900 of being able to match that that growth pressure.

00:29:18.320 But now I'm looking at the fact that we've got 22,500 additional students

00:29:23.820 that came into school that we weren't anticipating.

00:29:26.280 And it takes three or four years to build a school.

00:29:28.720 We probably need to build 30 or more schools a year for the next number of years

00:29:34.080 in order to be able to keep up with that growth.

00:29:35.960 That's the kind of practical reality that I'm talking about,

00:29:38.680 is that if we're going to be welcoming newcomers,

00:29:42.460 we've got to have a place for them to live

00:29:43.940 and a place for their kids to go to school.

00:29:45.680 And we've got to make sure everybody has a family doctor.

00:29:47.880 So I think that there is a very pragmatic and practical approach

00:29:51.580 that we can take that allows us to continue to keep up with growth,

00:29:56.000 continue to welcome newcomers

00:29:57.340 without creating the kind of tensions that are beginning to emerge

00:30:00.920 because people are beginning to feel disenfranchised.

00:30:04.000 Great. Well, I appreciate you coming on to clarify that for us today.

00:30:08.260 Is there anything else you'd like to add before I let you go?

00:30:10.400 No, thanks so much for the conversation, Corey.

00:30:13.000 I know that you guys do a lot of work on covering these and other issues.

00:30:17.220 I mean, the other thing I might say is one of the things,

00:30:20.140 I was just on a Northern tour,

00:30:21.520 and it's very interesting to see the difference between North and South

00:30:24.320 because North keeps telling me, we need more people.

00:30:27.020 But one of the things that they're doing up North

00:30:28.440 is they're trying to grow their own skilled labor.

00:30:31.240 They're offering more trades programs to kids or having larger families.

00:30:35.700 And we are also a party that supports families.

00:30:38.600 We're doing what we can to be able to make it easier

00:30:40.820 for families to be able to have kids,

00:30:42.680 for moms and dads to both be able to go back to work

00:30:45.480 so that they don't have to choose between having kids and working.

00:30:48.320 That's part of the reason why we have the daycare program that we do.

00:30:51.620 And we're going to do both.

00:30:52.920 I mean, I think that that's one of the things that has made Alberta so strong

00:30:56.560 is that we always have had a much younger population here.

00:31:00.040 And so we've got a higher workforce participation rate.

00:31:02.840 We've got higher wages on average,

00:31:04.900 and that allows for all of us to pay lower taxes.

00:31:07.380 So I kind of like that as part of our model as well.

00:31:10.340 Great. Well, thank you very much for coming on today.

00:31:13.360 And I hope we get to talk again sometime soon.

00:31:15.560 You bet. Thanks, Corey.

00:31:21.080 So that was 15 minutes of Premier Smith talking about immigration.

00:31:24.100 It's a huge issue, but we got to clarify a few things.

00:31:26.660 Like, for one, it's federal.

00:31:30.120 No matter what the Premier may say or may try or may do,

00:31:34.380 all she can do as far as it comes to the volume is lobby the federal government. 0.89

00:31:40.100 We can't stop interprovincial migration.

00:31:44.740 So the volume coming in, the 1.2 million, which, you know, she did say is not sustainable,

00:31:50.700 that is in Trudeau's lap.

00:31:53.080 That's a federal policy.

00:31:54.740 Then they land in Canada, and Alberta's growth, it's been showing,

00:31:58.080 our growth is mostly interprovincial.

00:32:02.140 They land in Toronto, they land in Vancouver,

00:32:03.780 but they do come to Alberta eventually.

00:32:06.080 And we have to deal with the immigration. 0.98

00:32:07.640 It's not going to go down no matter what we do provincially.

00:32:10.080 It has to happen federally.

00:32:11.780 Now, Nadia pointing out in Quebec it's provincial.

00:32:14.500 Yes and no.

00:32:15.720 So what happens in Quebec is they have a larger say

00:32:18.320 on where the immigrants will first land

00:32:20.760 and choosing which ones will get there,

00:32:22.520 and they base it on language, as was said.

00:32:24.460 But again, it's federal,

00:32:26.440 and there's nothing that Quebec can do,

00:32:28.240 say, for a liberal that moves,

00:32:29.460 or liberal, an immigrant that moves to Toronto

00:32:31.520 and decides to move to Quebec.

00:32:33.740 There's nothing the province can do to stop that.

00:32:37.060 So we've got a few things to discuss.

00:32:39.080 Some people saying no immigration, no immigration.

00:32:40.760 I'll be blunt. 1.00

00:32:41.220 That's stupid. 1.00

00:32:42.180 It's stupid. 1.00

00:32:42.720 Okay, guys? 1.00

00:32:43.900 We need immigration.

00:32:44.960 What we need to do, though, is do it better.

00:32:47.380 We need to figure out how to manage it.

00:32:50.100 You know, I did a lot of touring

00:32:52.180 talking about the Alberta pension plan,

00:32:54.540 a big thing I've been a proponent of for a long time.

00:32:56.960 And one of the reasons Alberta is much more strongly placed

00:33:00.460 with a pension plan of its own,

00:33:02.680 rather than being in the federal one,

00:33:04.100 is the demographics.

00:33:05.460 Because Alberta has a younger working population.

00:33:09.780 Because Alberta has a higher earning population,

00:33:12.120 we're putting much more into that plan

00:33:14.180 than we're taking out.

00:33:15.640 But the reason we have that balance

00:33:17.420 is a lot because of immigration,

00:33:20.320 because the immigrants are working 1.00

00:33:21.620 and they're feeding that system. 0.95

00:33:23.660 That's the way the pension plan's working.

00:33:26.660 If we stopped immigration, if we could, 1.00

00:33:28.340 if we could wave a magic wand and stop immigration, 0.99

00:33:31.580 that's fine.

00:33:32.360 But we're going to have a terrible imbalance

00:33:33.520 with things like our pension plan

00:33:34.860 and developing areas and moving further.

00:33:37.660 We're getting too many.

00:33:38.960 That's a given.

00:33:39.700 You know, Premier Smith said as much.

00:33:41.680 As well, we're taking in way more

00:33:43.800 than we can accommodate.

00:33:45.380 But the solutions aren't as simple

00:33:47.040 as some people might think.

00:33:49.360 And we have to think harder on this.

00:33:51.780 We can't, as Albertans, do much.

00:33:54.260 Well, hey, I wrote a book

00:33:55.620 on what I think Albertans should do

00:33:56.900 about dealing with Ottawa in the long game,

00:33:59.220 you know, with the Sovereignty's Handbook.

00:34:01.100 But in the immediate term,

00:34:02.980 there's only so much a Premier can do

00:34:04.540 to adapt to these things.

00:34:06.580 She did say, interestingly,

00:34:08.800 and that was back in January

00:34:10.260 that she was looking at doubling

00:34:12.360 Alberta's population by 2050.

00:34:14.040 The funny thing is, as I looked into it,

00:34:15.780 that she wouldn't have to do anything.

00:34:17.440 She'd just have to leave it alone

00:34:18.340 because at the rate that it's increasing,

00:34:19.700 that is what would happen by 2050.

00:34:21.400 We do need to scale that back.

00:34:22.860 We need to lessen it.

00:34:24.260 But there's other points,

00:34:25.060 like foreign students, 0.98

00:34:25.980 Paradox, he brought that up,

00:34:26.920 said no more foreign students.

00:34:27.780 Fair enough.

00:34:28.840 But again, you see,

00:34:29.480 people forget how that's integrated.

00:34:31.480 Foreign students going

00:34:32.580 to post-secondary schools

00:34:34.480 pay a massive premium.

00:34:36.600 They pay far, far more for tuition

00:34:38.620 and all the rest

00:34:39.260 than Canadian citizens

00:34:40.980 who are attending the post-secondary,

00:34:43.020 the colleges and universities do.

00:34:44.640 They subsidize the education

00:34:47.120 for the other Canadians

00:34:48.140 because they pay so much extra.

00:34:50.920 So if we did end all of the foreign students, 1.00

00:34:54.260 I think, again, I agree,

00:34:55.080 we're taking in too many.

00:34:56.560 But if we ended it all, okay,

00:34:58.620 but the tuition costs

00:35:00.400 for the remaining Canadians

00:35:01.600 are going to go up.

00:35:03.400 That's just the way it's going to go.

00:35:06.700 And, you know,

00:35:08.760 we have to work on screening.

00:35:11.260 We talked about that.

00:35:14.460 Are we bringing in immigrants 1.00

00:35:15.860 who best can integrate with us?

00:35:17.680 I think absolutely not.

00:35:19.140 We look at the integration issues

00:35:21.220 going on in the UK and Europe.

00:35:22.580 We talked about that.

00:35:23.640 No, it is not going well at all.

00:35:26.440 They're insular communities.

00:35:27.560 They're fighting with each other

00:35:28.860 and it's becoming bad.

00:35:30.360 So we've got to work on tempering

00:35:31.880 and controlling those numbers.

00:35:32.820 Again, that's completely

00:35:34.160 out of provincial jurisdiction.

00:35:36.040 There's nothing we can do

00:35:37.160 about that as a province

00:35:38.100 except really push

00:35:39.580 the federal government

00:35:40.280 as much as we can.

00:35:42.220 And Trudeau,

00:35:43.500 Trudeau is trying to pour

00:35:45.780 the immigrants into Canada 0.78

00:35:47.580 as hard as he can.

00:35:48.480 There's a reason for that

00:35:49.580 because when you bring

00:35:52.060 the immigrants in,

00:35:52.940 it holds up the one

00:35:54.000 and only data point he has

00:35:55.840 as a positive economic indicator.

00:35:57.960 You see, immigrants bring in, 1.00

00:36:00.300 they add to the GDP

00:36:02.180 as a whole for the country,

00:36:03.480 the gross domestic product.

00:36:04.700 So they come in, they work,

00:36:06.240 some bring funds with them,

00:36:08.320 resources with them.

00:36:09.160 It raises that number.

00:36:10.700 So he can point and say,

00:36:11.940 see, see, Canada's growing.

00:36:13.060 It's doing well.

00:36:13.480 It's doing well.

00:36:14.160 What he overlooks, of course,

00:36:15.620 is the GDP per capita

00:36:18.040 goes down

00:36:19.280 because we're splitting it

00:36:20.720 among a much larger

00:36:22.500 population of people.

00:36:26.680 See here, you know,

00:36:27.700 I've got a commenter.

00:36:28.240 I'm not going to fully quote him.

00:36:29.180 It's Razo 5000 1.00

00:36:30.040 and he's a fool. 1.00

00:36:32.600 You know, zero immigration. 1.00

00:36:34.100 Okay, sure.

00:36:35.060 Why don't we wave a wand

00:36:35.960 and make everybody rich too?

00:36:37.900 Let's have a realistic

00:36:39.120 conversation on this

00:36:40.640 because it's a real problem.

00:36:42.480 We've got a real issue

00:36:43.600 with getting a manageable

00:36:45.900 number of immigrants coming in

00:36:47.260 and accommodating

00:36:49.300 the people who are already here

00:36:51.020 and, of course,

00:36:52.140 accommodating the immigrants 1.00

00:36:53.080 when they get here as well.

00:36:53.940 Hey, it's not all

00:36:55.040 sunshine and happiness

00:36:57.500 for immigrants who get here 1.00

00:36:58.600 and find out

00:36:59.600 how expensive rents are

00:37:01.180 and how difficult

00:37:02.820 it might be

00:37:03.360 to find a decent job

00:37:04.280 in some areas and sectors

00:37:05.500 and things like that.

00:37:07.780 Again, that's a symptom

00:37:08.980 of us taking in more

00:37:10.020 than we can manage.

00:37:11.820 But we can't go to zero.

00:37:13.700 It's not much of an option.

00:37:16.160 Ariel Sky saying,

00:37:17.480 go look at the homeless.

00:37:18.560 What do you see?

00:37:18.960 I see actually a massive addiction

00:37:21.680 issue going on

00:37:23.240 with the homeless

00:37:23.880 and most of the people

00:37:28.760 I see on the street

00:37:29.420 actually are First Nations

00:37:30.460 or white.

00:37:32.080 I don't see a lot

00:37:33.600 of Middle Eastern

00:37:34.260 or Indian or Asian people

00:37:37.840 actually on the street

00:37:38.720 with the homeless.

00:37:39.960 That's a whole separate

00:37:40.880 discussion as well, actually.

00:37:42.280 I think a lot of immigrant

00:37:43.060 communities are a lot better

00:37:44.100 at supporting family

00:37:46.200 and so on,

00:37:46.760 so they don't end up

00:37:47.340 in that circumstance.

00:37:49.840 But, you know,

00:37:50.360 we get these things going.

00:37:51.220 Helen Moe is saying,

00:37:51.800 is the Western Standard

00:37:52.760 sort of biased?

00:37:54.880 No, but I am.

00:37:56.420 I'm an opinion host.

00:37:57.720 Of course I'm biased.

00:37:58.700 I've got my view.

00:37:59.860 That's what I do.

00:38:00.440 I share it on here.

00:38:01.860 But, you know,

00:38:03.820 that's the way it goes.

00:38:05.340 The news, no,

00:38:05.960 the news is unbiased.

00:38:06.860 But the opinion writers

00:38:07.640 and people like me,

00:38:08.260 yeah, I've got my biases.

00:38:10.240 But I just,

00:38:11.680 we have to get our things

00:38:14.600 in order

00:38:14.920 and we have to have

00:38:15.900 a rational conversation

00:38:17.600 about it.

00:38:18.600 Some people are getting

00:38:19.160 really upset with Smith.

00:38:20.140 Oh, I'm going to go to the AGM.

00:38:21.300 I'm going to vote against her.

00:38:22.080 I'm going to vote against her.

00:38:22.760 Okay, it's fine.

00:38:24.420 Just remember that

00:38:25.640 Ninchy is in the background

00:38:28.460 and waiting for the UCP

00:38:31.580 to rip itself apart.

00:38:32.500 And if you think things are bad

00:38:33.920 with Smith,

00:38:36.640 just imagine Ninchy

00:38:38.040 as a premier.

00:38:39.940 John Smith,

00:38:40.640 wow, what a boomer windbag. 0.90

00:38:41.880 I love some of these

00:38:42.380 commenters here.

00:38:43.500 I'm glad you were

00:38:44.540 honest enough

00:38:45.740 to put a fake name,

00:38:46.800 you know,

00:38:46.980 as John Smith

00:38:47.560 to put it in the beginning

00:38:48.360 with it.

00:38:49.300 For now,

00:38:50.200 I'm no spring chicken,

00:38:51.300 but I'm actually Gen X.

00:38:52.800 I'm not a boomer. 0.76

00:38:53.700 Well, I am a windbag

00:38:54.620 and that's what I'm about.

00:38:55.840 I'm not here to tell you

00:38:56.960 what you want to hear.

00:38:57.760 I'm telling you

00:38:58.140 what you need to hear.

00:38:59.480 And that is

00:39:00.780 that we need

00:39:01.720 realistic immigration policies,

00:39:04.400 but we can't realistically

00:39:05.900 get rid of

00:39:07.640 all immigrants 1.00

00:39:09.460 or stop it.

00:39:11.340 L says,

00:39:12.140 Smith is finished.

00:39:12.740 We got options.

00:39:13.480 Oh, okay.

00:39:14.480 Name them.

00:39:16.800 I mean,

00:39:17.160 I was,

00:39:19.180 I've spent years

00:39:20.340 in politics in Alberta,

00:39:21.480 a lot of them,

00:39:22.040 very involved

00:39:22.700 in the party executives

00:39:23.680 on,

00:39:24.520 you know,

00:39:27.660 a political organization

00:39:28.580 managing campaigns.

00:39:29.840 And I tell you what,

00:39:32.020 we love ripping ourselves

00:39:34.100 apart politically,

00:39:34.820 don't we?

00:39:35.880 Infighting,

00:39:36.340 going at it,

00:39:37.120 ripping out our leaders.

00:39:38.600 And how well did that work

00:39:39.920 when we got Premier Notley

00:39:41.000 for four years?

00:39:42.540 What does somebody see?

00:39:44.000 Yes,

00:39:44.200 I think people should go

00:39:45.540 to the AGM

00:39:46.220 of the party

00:39:47.180 that's in power.

00:39:48.460 I think they should

00:39:49.180 speak their minds.

00:39:50.040 They should communicate it

00:39:51.160 to the party.

00:39:51.640 The UCP isn't perfect

00:39:52.640 by a long shot.

00:39:54.720 But

00:39:55.120 Smith's only been

00:39:57.100 in for,

00:39:58.780 you know,

00:39:59.060 less than a couple of years.

00:40:00.180 Do you really think

00:40:00.880 tearing her out

00:40:01.480 is going to help

00:40:02.020 at this point?

00:40:02.980 And where are the alternatives?

00:40:04.140 What's out there?

00:40:04.760 What do you see?

00:40:05.840 One of the other

00:40:06.420 fringe parties out there,

00:40:07.720 the Alberta Advantage Party,

00:40:08.680 I think they got

00:40:09.200 a couple hundred votes

00:40:10.060 the last time around.

00:40:11.240 One of the four

00:40:12.200 or five independence parties

00:40:13.220 we got running around

00:40:13.920 these days,

00:40:14.260 I don't know.

00:40:15.600 But,

00:40:15.940 you know,

00:40:17.580 again,

00:40:18.120 we need to be realistic

00:40:19.420 about some of these things

00:40:20.560 and talk about it.

00:40:22.120 I mean,

00:40:22.300 hey,

00:40:22.440 we have a Premier

00:40:23.160 who came,

00:40:23.620 whether people don't trust her

00:40:24.760 or agree with her,

00:40:25.320 but she came and gave 0.98

00:40:25.960 15 minutes to explain

00:40:27.100 what,

00:40:28.440 you know,

00:40:28.760 what her stance was

00:40:29.780 and where these things are.

00:40:34.080 Yeah,

00:40:34.520 I'm just reading

00:40:35.120 some of these,

00:40:35.740 Paul,

00:40:36.040 you know,

00:40:36.240 comments.

00:40:36.840 Man,

00:40:37.360 some of you guys 0.97

00:40:37.840 are crackpots, 0.95

00:40:38.920 but that's fine.

00:40:39.880 That's fine.

00:40:40.760 I'm not fully sane myself.

00:40:43.380 You know,

00:40:44.000 Tommy Gunn,

00:40:44.500 how about closing the door

00:40:45.240 on immigration?

00:40:45.900 Well,

00:40:46.060 how about getting realistic?

00:40:47.840 Let's get on with things,

00:40:48.800 guys.

00:40:49.040 Let's talk seriously about it. 0.99

00:40:50.960 Not all this reactionary crap. 0.98

00:40:52.240 You're not going to get anywhere. 0.98

00:40:54.180 And,

00:40:54.600 you know,

00:40:55.400 we've got work to do.

00:40:57.560 But we need to be smart about it.

00:40:59.300 And,

00:40:59.480 you know,

00:40:59.560 let's talk about some of the other things.

00:41:00.660 I'll start turning a little,

00:41:01.860 because this is some of the news coming up.

00:41:02.960 This is some of the problems we have

00:41:04.320 due to having

00:41:05.840 way more immigration

00:41:08.880 than we can manage.

00:41:09.820 It's a federal thing.

00:41:10.700 We can't do much about it provincially,

00:41:12.440 but it is a federal thing

00:41:13.260 and it is a problem.

00:41:14.680 And here's something that

00:41:15.800 Trudeau talked about

00:41:17.080 using federal property

00:41:18.760 for more housing,

00:41:20.300 you know,

00:41:20.620 and it's military property

00:41:22.020 and things such as that.

00:41:24.220 And

00:41:24.400 it's showing now

00:41:27.540 that a quarter

00:41:28.880 of the National Defense Buildings

00:41:30.160 he was talking about,

00:41:31.060 they date from the 1970s

00:41:32.440 or even earlier.

00:41:34.060 They're inappropriate.

00:41:35.200 They're full of asbestos.

00:41:36.260 They're out of date.

00:41:37.040 They're small. 0.80

00:41:37.540 They're nasty.

00:41:39.340 You know, 1.00

00:41:39.640 Trudeau and his foolishness, 1.00

00:41:41.100 it just never stops. 1.00

00:41:42.200 The bottom line is

00:41:43.200 we have more demand

00:41:44.640 than we have supply.

00:41:45.940 And again,

00:41:46.440 that comes to having

00:41:47.120 way too many people coming in

00:41:48.700 and we can't accommodate them

00:41:51.340 fast enough.

00:41:52.180 We can't build the houses fast enough.

00:41:53.880 As Premier Smith said,

00:41:54.920 we would need to build

00:41:55.700 30 new schools a year

00:41:57.100 in Alberta

00:41:57.920 just to keep up with the schools

00:41:59.520 for the children

00:42:00.240 for the ones coming in.

00:42:01.740 We've got to scale things back

00:42:04.060 and get realistic with it.

00:42:06.680 And unfortunately,

00:42:07.180 we're not getting federal help.

00:42:09.480 I mean, 0.81

00:42:10.060 this is bad frigging news. 0.96

00:42:12.240 This is another one, 0.93

00:42:14.100 Commons Public Safety Committee,

00:42:15.940 agreed to summon

00:42:17.360 cabinet ministers

00:42:18.260 over suspected failures

00:42:19.660 in immigration security checks.

00:42:21.280 You think?

00:42:22.260 I mean,

00:42:22.620 yes,

00:42:22.920 we brought in

00:42:23.840 this fella

00:42:25.320 who thankfully,

00:42:27.120 and it turns out

00:42:27.560 it was from French intelligence,

00:42:28.960 from France,

00:42:29.560 not Canadian intelligence,

00:42:30.920 realized that

00:42:31.440 this father and son team

00:42:33.280 were going to pull off

00:42:33.940 a terrorist act

00:42:35.060 in Canada.

00:42:36.260 They were going to chop people up.

00:42:37.400 They were going to do

00:42:37.780 some horrible,

00:42:38.420 horrible stuff.

00:42:39.860 And it turns out

00:42:40.400 that the father

00:42:41.180 had been on video

00:42:42.320 with ISIS

00:42:43.060 dissecting a man

00:42:44.360 hanging from ropes

00:42:45.520 before.

00:42:45.940 How is it

00:42:47.980 our immigration

00:42:48.480 can't catch

00:42:49.320 even the most horrific

00:42:50.640 of psychopaths

00:42:52.820 coming from other areas?

00:42:54.060 I mean,

00:42:54.480 we're talking

00:42:54.960 some people

00:42:55.360 who slipped through

00:42:55.780 if they had no record,

00:42:56.580 no history,

00:42:57.040 no things going on.

00:42:58.060 Okay,

00:42:58.440 that happens.

00:42:59.080 But this was brutal.

00:43:01.400 And as Dave said

00:43:02.740 in the story as well,

00:43:05.040 you know,

00:43:05.620 when he was in talking,

00:43:06.460 giving the updates,

00:43:07.780 the liberals

00:43:08.200 are trying to blame

00:43:09.300 Harper somehow.

00:43:10.900 10 years ago,

00:43:12.460 Harper was in,

00:43:13.140 guys,

00:43:13.360 but they're trying

00:43:13.900 to blame Harper

00:43:14.620 for this guy

00:43:15.500 and this mess.

00:43:17.960 But then we got to look

00:43:18.500 at where we're putting

00:43:19.020 our money with some 1.00

00:43:19.600 of this other idiocy. 1.00

00:43:20.760 This is another 1.00

00:43:21.400 interesting one

00:43:22.480 that popped up.

00:43:23.360 People familiar with

00:43:24.100 crazy left-wing

00:43:25.820 tax-funded groups,

00:43:27.220 the Anti-Hate Network.

00:43:28.360 You know,

00:43:28.440 these are one of the things

00:43:28.860 that drives me nuts

00:43:29.440 that quells discussion.

00:43:30.960 Because if they

00:43:31.540 cloak themselves

00:43:32.420 in a name like

00:43:33.000 Anti-Hate Network,

00:43:34.400 well, we must be

00:43:34.980 doing something good,

00:43:35.540 right?

00:43:36.000 Not necessarily.

00:43:37.540 It's just like

00:43:38.000 Anti-Fuzz says,

00:43:39.020 do you,

00:43:39.800 you know,

00:43:40.300 well, we oppose fascism.

00:43:41.320 So if you don't like us,

00:43:42.120 does that mean

00:43:42.520 you like fascism?

00:43:43.240 No, actually, it doesn't.

00:43:44.120 It just means I think 1.00

00:43:44.620 you're a nutcase 0.99

00:43:45.280 and I don't like fascism. 1.00

00:43:46.860 In fact,

00:43:47.200 I don't have to like

00:43:48.100 either of you.

00:43:49.460 But we've had

00:43:49.980 the tax dollars

00:43:51.200 go towards this

00:43:52.540 Anti-Hate Network

00:43:53.660 and this Anti-Hate Network

00:43:54.900 is nuts.

00:43:55.960 These guys are 1.00

00:43:56.600 more hateful 0.98

00:43:57.320 than most others

00:43:57.940 and it turns out

00:43:58.920 that the guy

00:44:00.120 heading it

00:44:00.540 is this anarchist

00:44:01.740 and he deleted

00:44:03.800 his Twitter account

00:44:04.780 records recently

00:44:05.660 but it's too late.

00:44:06.880 It's out there.

00:44:08.120 He was putting out

00:44:08.960 insane stuff

00:44:10.280 and this is

00:44:11.240 the Anti-Hate Network.

00:44:12.840 I mean,

00:44:13.180 he was talking about,

00:44:14.960 you know,

00:44:15.180 he was demonstrating

00:44:15.800 outside cracker barrels

00:44:16.940 and things like that.

00:44:18.080 This is where

00:44:18.540 your tax dollars go.

00:44:20.000 This is the other

00:44:20.660 end of the coin.

00:44:21.700 This is,

00:44:22.340 you know,

00:44:22.960 going from kooks

00:44:24.240 who think that

00:44:24.680 we can stop

00:44:25.220 immigration altogether 0.98

00:44:26.160 to kooks like this guy 0.71

00:44:27.760 who with the

00:44:28.540 Anti-Hate Network

00:44:29.360 that just doesn't

00:44:32.080 quite get it.

00:44:34.320 And I think

00:44:34.580 let's get into

00:44:35.000 the Human Rights,

00:44:35.560 you know,

00:44:35.720 the head of the

00:44:36.080 Human Rights Commission

00:44:36.720 that hit recently,

00:44:38.040 Berju Dutani

00:44:38.860 who was

00:44:39.420 appointed to the

00:44:41.820 head of the

00:44:42.220 Hate Network

00:44:42.880 or Hate Network

00:44:43.720 Human Rights,

00:44:44.960 Canadian Human Rights

00:44:45.640 Commission.

00:44:46.060 It's hard to keep up

00:44:46.680 with all these things,

00:44:47.140 all your tax dollars 1.00

00:44:47.800 and all this stupidity. 1.00

00:44:49.560 And yeah, 1.00

00:44:50.340 all they had to do

00:44:50.900 is Google

00:44:51.260 and have a look

00:44:51.980 and hey,

00:44:52.460 this crackpot

00:44:53.120 basically said

00:44:53.920 terrorism

00:44:54.360 is a valid,

00:44:55.620 good way

00:44:56.280 to make change.

00:44:57.440 This guy was

00:44:58.000 literally pro-terrorist

00:44:59.500 and he gets

00:45:00.300 appointed

00:45:00.960 as the head

00:45:01.740 of the Human Rights

00:45:02.480 Commission.

00:45:02.980 It's no wonder

00:45:04.300 we're having

00:45:05.260 problems with

00:45:06.480 you know,

00:45:10.540 people are having

00:45:10.980 problems with

00:45:11.440 integration and so on

00:45:12.960 when these are the

00:45:13.660 people fostering

00:45:15.260 division.

00:45:15.800 They're getting us

00:45:16.200 fighting with each

00:45:16.760 other even more

00:45:18.000 and they're supporting

00:45:20.180 insane,

00:45:21.060 insane things.

00:45:22.940 Well,

00:45:23.540 you know,

00:45:24.000 again,

00:45:24.280 if everybody wants

00:45:24.720 to scream and blame

00:45:25.360 immigrants for everything,

00:45:26.140 but we've got other

00:45:26.660 issues.

00:45:27.480 The RCMP,

00:45:28.460 another big federal

00:45:29.340 organization that's

00:45:30.140 not serving as well.

00:45:31.000 I certainly ripped

00:45:31.500 into them hard

00:45:32.100 enough the other week.

00:45:33.260 Alberta had that

00:45:34.040 recent murder

00:45:35.280 of an innocent

00:45:36.560 young man who was

00:45:37.400 just working for

00:45:38.260 the county so they

00:45:39.420 could steal his 0.63

00:45:39.860 vehicle.

00:45:40.160 They did catch one

00:45:40.880 of them.

00:45:41.580 He's in jail.

00:45:42.580 They're seeking out

00:45:43.740 the other one,

00:45:44.240 Elijah Strawberry.

00:45:45.440 They're trying to

00:45:46.000 find him.

00:45:47.680 But the RCMP still

00:45:48.760 isn't sharing much

00:45:50.340 information with us.

00:45:51.300 This is where it

00:45:52.320 gets maddening.

00:45:53.180 This is one of our

00:45:53.780 systems falling apart

00:45:55.280 where they don't

00:45:56.300 realize they

00:45:56.920 serve us.

00:45:58.420 Not the other way

00:45:59.140 around.

00:46:00.020 They should be

00:46:00.480 giving us pretty

00:46:01.420 much all the

00:46:02.060 information they

00:46:02.720 can because that's

00:46:04.080 their job and it's

00:46:05.240 sharing it with us.

00:46:06.260 This is,

00:46:06.740 again,

00:46:06.940 how we keep

00:46:07.580 ourselves safe,

00:46:08.240 how we know

00:46:08.620 what's going on

00:46:09.280 out there.

00:46:10.160 And it's like

00:46:11.020 pulling teeth with

00:46:11.760 these guys.

00:46:12.460 Getting back to

00:46:13.180 things we can do

00:46:14.360 provincially.

00:46:15.680 We can do a

00:46:16.460 provincial police

00:46:17.080 force.

00:46:17.700 We should.

00:46:18.540 We can do a

00:46:19.120 provincial pension

00:46:19.720 plan.

00:46:20.120 I talked about

00:46:20.500 that earlier.

00:46:20.960 But we need that

00:46:21.620 demographic to make

00:46:22.460 it a good

00:46:22.800 advantage.

00:46:23.400 And hey,

00:46:23.780 hate to say it

00:46:24.280 guys,

00:46:25.040 but we need

00:46:25.620 immigration,

00:46:26.920 for that.

00:46:27.900 It's funny.

00:46:29.960 I had a bunch

00:46:31.360 of people all

00:46:31.700 worked up because

00:46:32.100 I put a picture

00:46:32.720 out a while back

00:46:34.500 of a woman with

00:46:35.620 like, I don't

00:46:36.120 know what it

00:46:36.400 was, 12 kids

00:46:37.320 lined up next to

00:46:38.180 her and everything

00:46:38.620 else.

00:46:39.020 And I said

00:46:39.340 something about

00:46:39.800 her not using 0.72

00:46:40.680 her reproductive

00:46:41.180 organs as a

00:46:41.820 PEZ dispenser or

00:46:42.600 something like that.

00:46:43.020 People go, 0.63

00:46:43.580 you're anti-white 0.60

00:46:44.740 breeding. 0.84

00:46:45.260 You want to see

00:46:46.060 the white

00:46:46.620 wipeout.

00:46:47.520 These white 0.99

00:46:48.000 families annoy you 1.00

00:46:49.320 and they get

00:46:49.620 on, holy cow,

00:46:50.920 you hypersensitive 0.98

00:46:51.840 wimps. 0.99

00:46:52.800 You hypersensitive 0.98

00:46:53.680 wimps. 0.97

00:46:54.060 You know what?

00:46:55.460 I'm not worried

00:46:57.440 about the white 0.93

00:46:58.020 race being wiped 0.99

00:46:58.640 out.

00:46:58.960 If you're that

00:46:59.420 worried, get

00:47:00.780 better in bed

00:47:01.520 because you're

00:47:02.120 not keeping

00:47:02.600 up.

00:47:03.740 You know?

00:47:04.620 Stoop better.

00:47:06.280 You're not,

00:47:06.800 the average

00:47:07.640 family is only

00:47:08.460 producing, what,

00:47:09.240 1.3 kids or

00:47:10.140 something nowadays.

00:47:10.760 It's not enough.

00:47:11.960 So unless we

00:47:12.640 want the population

00:47:13.140 to go down,

00:47:14.240 we need to bring

00:47:15.380 people in.

00:47:16.280 And if you

00:47:16.640 really think

00:47:17.200 it's up to

00:47:17.640 everybody to

00:47:18.500 reproduce naturally

00:47:19.260 more, that's

00:47:19.740 fine.

00:47:20.060 Well, you get

00:47:20.600 started and you

00:47:21.360 get on it.

00:47:22.660 But in the

00:47:23.020 meantime, if you

00:47:24.440 look at an

00:47:24.900 economics book,

00:47:26.320 we need to

00:47:26.760 bring folks in.

00:47:27.720 Either way, I'm

00:47:28.180 glad we could

00:47:28.540 have a rational,

00:47:29.400 calm discussion.

00:47:30.460 I see, you

00:47:31.500 know, over a

00:47:33.120 thousand some

00:47:33.700 people viewing

00:47:35.620 this live as

00:47:36.520 we're talking.

00:47:37.520 And of course,

00:47:38.640 I see the

00:47:40.060 crackpots like

00:47:40.920 at the end

00:47:41.420 saying, hey,

00:47:41.820 this guy's another 0.99

00:47:42.340 racist who hates 1.00

00:47:42.960 the European race. 1.00

00:47:43.700 No, I hate 1.00

00:47:44.580 morons like you. 1.00

00:47:45.760 But I appreciate 1.00

00:47:46.340 you tuning in and

00:47:47.040 be sure to visit

00:47:47.620 our advertisers.

00:47:48.420 All right, that's

00:47:48.860 all I got today,

00:47:49.800 guys.

00:47:50.120 It was fun.

00:47:51.040 I'll be back

00:47:51.440 next week with a

00:47:52.100 bunch more.

00:47:52.540 Be sure to tune

00:47:53.400 into the pipeline

00:47:54.200 tonight and we

00:47:55.500 will be talking

00:47:56.060 about a bunch

00:47:56.640 more.

00:47:56.980 And hey, I'm 0.98

00:47:57.960 sorry you white 1.00

00:47:58.540 guys are scared.

00:47:59.520 I'm not and I'm

00:48:00.460 white.

00:48:01.000 I got over it.

00:48:02.020 Talk to you next

00:48:02.460 week, guys.

00:48:02.800 We'll be right back.

00:48:32.800 We'll be right back.

00:48:35.120 Bye.

00:48:36.360 We'll be right back.

00:48:37.420 Bye.

00:48:42.640 Bye.

00:48:45.340 Bye.

00:48:45.680 Bye.

00:48:54.740 Bye.

00:48:55.740 Bye.

00:48:58.220 Bye.

Western Standard - August 14, 2024

CMS： with Premier Danielle Smith on immigration.

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