00:00:30.000Good day. Welcome to the Corey Morgan Show. As you might have gathered, I am Corey Morgan. This is my weekly opportunity to bend your ear, rant, rave, talk to some guests, cover some subjects, and have a good time. Or at least I enjoy it anyway. Sometimes the viewers enjoy it. Sometimes they get upset with me. Ah, you know, it doesn't bother me when you get upset. But, you know, it gets our blood pressure going. It makes things interesting. You can't just always read the columns. This way you can kind of hear them.
00:00:57.360It's just, again, so much news, lots of dark news, sometimes lighter things as well to
00:08:39.960It appears the UK government may have been true, so we're going to keep an eye on that obviously all day as developments occur.
00:08:53.960Other stories, the Alberta government has responded to the fiscal update yesterday, and as you can imagine, they're not overly impressed.
00:09:04.960Big announcement on health care in Alberta this morning where the province is going to allow licensed practical nurses to operate their own clinics.
00:09:15.120The licensed practical nurses are sort of more trained than regular nurses and in fact do about 80% of what a doctor can do.
00:09:24.140So they're going to allow those people with the right training to open up their own offices.
00:09:30.340A story still reverberating from yesterday where Calgary police have now apologized to the family of two brothers, one only 14 years old, the other 18, who were arrested last week for the brazen daylight shooting up near Marlborough Park.
00:09:49.980I guess they got the wrong guys and have apologized.
00:09:55.400You know, Corey, in my 30 years or so of covering crime in Calgary,
00:10:00.000I've never seen anything quite like that apology yesterday.
00:15:20.660So I said off the top of the show, I mean, it happens to be the 60th anniversary, I believe,
00:15:24.920today of the JFK assassination, and that's sort of the granddaddy of conspiracy theories. It's
00:15:31.340going on 60 years and there still doesn't feel that a lot of people don't feel it's resolved
00:15:35.820i wasn't born when it started but i have to tell you i got drawn into it when i was in university
00:15:41.100i spent about 15 20 years believing the cia killed kennedy that led me to believe in a number of other
00:15:46.780theories that eventually turned out to be false so i'm happy to say i'm out of the rabbit hole
00:15:51.820but it uh it takes a while it takes a lot of effort to think critically to be able to get
00:15:56.700away from uh these very kind of uh corroding myths that our society embraces far too easily
00:16:03.740yeah well we we seem to have i i i believe i mean and you break it down into that in your
00:16:08.780article which was fantastic too but just some of the things to watch for in a conspiracy that
00:16:12.860perhaps isn't a legitimate one or isn't well founded but we seem to have an instinct if we
00:16:17.500see something unusual we just want to fill the void we want to fill the question marks kind of
00:16:21.740with our own uh interpretation of things even if it's not sourced or we'll take somebody else's
00:16:26.640interpretation without looking more deeply and and that can turn a small conspiracy into a large one
00:16:31.520yeah that's true uh a lot of uh smarter people than me a lot of people in uh social scientific
00:16:37.120research have highlighted some of the major elements that make us want to believe in conspiracy
00:16:41.760theories one of the the ones that tends to be universal is a feeling of powerlessness
00:16:46.440You can be either unemployed or you could be Donald Trump.
00:16:50.120If you believe that somehow you're losing power or you're being shut out of power, you're more likely to believe that there's some nefarious group that is doing this behind your back.
00:17:00.020Our cultural ideologies tend to influence what kind of conspiracy theory we're likely to believe in.
00:17:06.080The groups we associate with, sometimes because our friends believe it, we're part of an echo chamber that we believe that it must be true if everyone else is repeating it.
00:17:14.240And then I think just the regular zeitgeist, you know, every generation or so, there are issues that trouble us more than our ancestors or our children will.
00:17:23.080I know for me, it was nuclear war when I was young. Today, it seems to be climate change or vaccines.
00:17:28.800So depending on what events struck you as odd, suspicious in your youth, particularly in your youth, we often call these flashbulb memories.
00:17:39.460For me, it was the Reagan assassination attempt in 1981, but for many people, it's the Kennedy assassination or 9-11 or some of these other events.
00:17:48.580Yeah, well, so we've got to, I'll kind of circle back to the Kennedy one.
00:17:53.900I want to talk a little bit about more others soon, but I mean, I just recently actually was listening to a different podcast.
00:17:58.280It sounds like Rob Reiner has done a long series of podcasts now, a person of pretty high profile, pretty high reach, and he goes right on to the second and third shooter theories.
00:18:08.240he's confident that really happened and he lays it out over a matter of a number of hours so we're
00:18:12.880not talking about an obscure uh person from years ago with a bunch of you know old uh folders they're
00:18:18.320holding in the air now we've got contemporary celebrities that are still propagating i guess
00:18:23.040their interpretations of what happened in those events back then and uh i i personally i think
00:18:28.240makes some pretty large leaps of logic oh definitely this is one of the most popular ones uh
00:18:34.000Every 10 years or so, Gallup takes a poll on this.
00:18:37.240And it turns out that among Americans, between 60 and 70% of people generally believe in some kind of conspiracy.
00:18:44.200Mind you, they don't necessarily agree on what kind that is.
00:18:46.720Someone like John Kerry still has claimed that he believes the Cubans were involved in it.
00:18:51.960We know that President Johnson believed the Cubans were involved.
00:18:55.060Mrs. Kennedy believed that the Ku Klux Klan or some right-wing group was involved.
00:18:59.240Even Jack Ruby, who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, believed that some anti-Semites were trying to blame this on the Jews.
00:19:53.260No, no, certainly not. As you point out, I mean, some real conspiracies exist. You have that in your article. It's on the Aristotle Foundation, by the way, in full, and you did one for the Western Standard as well. But for example, Watergate, that was a real conspiracy. It was really underhanded. It was really government involvement, but it was all quite exposed in the end.
00:20:13.200Or think of the sponsorship scandal. I live in Montreal. I lived through the 1995 referendum. The federal government gave a lot of money to advertisement agencies against the current laws of Quebec at that time, the referendum laws. And what do those people do with it? They bought yachts. They spent it on their debts or on restaurant dining. They didn't actually do what they were asked to do.
00:20:36.480And in the end, we can see how conspiring is not something that's very successful when
00:20:41.520a large group of people do it and they're not part of some network.
00:20:44.920I mean, the CIA can kill people and keep a lid on it, at least for some time.
00:20:49.220But when you ask a number of people in different organizations to conspire together, the odds
00:20:54.080are it's not going to work out very well.
00:20:55.480And it didn't work out for President Nixon either.
00:20:58.820Yeah, well, I mean, just speaking anecdotally, I mean, if you have a circle of 10 friends
00:21:02.320and you try to keep a secret, all 10 of you know, chances are within a week or two,
00:21:06.080it's gonna spread well outside of that circle.
00:21:08.060I mean, people aren't really that good at keeping secrets.
00:21:10.700And when some of these conspiracies talk about it,
00:21:31.240that's when really you're killing it with bad logic.
00:21:35.340Because how could you predict how the next generation will do in terms of either covering up or revealing some dark secret?
00:21:43.640So there's a number of ways, and I point these out in my article.
00:21:46.820You don't have to be an expert in science or history to debunk a conspiracy theory.
00:21:51.400You need to be equipped with the right kind of logic.
00:21:53.360And sometimes circular reasoning or straw man fallacies, creating a very simplistic version of the theory you're trying to debunk so that it's easier to set it aflame.
00:22:05.340sort of speak uh then those are you know indicators that a conspiracy theory is likely not believable
00:22:11.820the more it is like a hollywood film script the less likely it is to be true well and there's
00:22:17.020one stubborn one i just came off of speaking tour i was doing on weekends and twice at two different
00:22:21.180stops we had people come up and ask the question about the old chemtrails which is contrails from
00:22:26.700jets you see in the sky and and you know i've talked to people they're not necessarily foolish
00:22:31.420people. They're lucid. They're typically rational, but somehow they believe that, again, tens of
00:22:37.540thousands or hundreds of thousands of pilots and baggage workers and chemists and who knows else
00:22:42.200are all tied in with the government, and they're trying to poison us through spray coming from jets
00:22:46.700and planes above us. It just seems to defy when I talk to this person. Really, this is not a foolish
00:22:51.440person, yet they're clinging to something that just seems so irrational. I don't understand how
00:22:55.800it spreads like that. Well, I think we live in an age where we're very suspicious of people in
00:23:00.080authority. And that's unfortunate. I mean, we should be skeptical. People in authority are
00:23:04.340still humans. And if they're given the chance, they might be corrupt. They might do something
00:23:08.100illegal. But ultimately, if we start with the default assumption that scientists, professors,
00:23:14.760journalists like yourself are deliberately part of some larger scheme, then we're not even giving
00:23:21.060ourselves a chance to look for truth. We start with the assumption that everything happens
00:23:26.100behind closed doors by some furtive force that we can only identify with words like oligarchy
00:23:32.120or patriarchy or military-industrial complex. At the end of the day, these words don't mean
00:23:38.280anything. Yeah, well, one of the things to watch for as well, you pointed out, was an assumption
00:23:42.520of hyper-confidence. I mean, when we look at government, this is the same sort of person who
00:23:46.300would sit and say, look, I feel Trudeau's a fool and his cabinet's weak and the bureaucrats are
00:23:51.380incompetent, but somehow they're pulling off a massive conspiracy to do such and such. Well,
00:23:56.260you've got a conflict of your logic going on right there. It's one of the things perhaps
00:23:59.540people should watch for. Don't assume that the government's really that good at being able to
00:24:03.420keep a conspiracy like this. What's interesting is often that same line, those two contradictory
00:24:08.740points are made by the same people, that somehow the conspirators are hyper competent, so they can
00:24:13.480use laser beams or they can somehow brainwash us through the media. But at the same time, they are
00:24:18.500so incompetent that they leave this breadcrumb of evidence supposedly all over the place.
00:24:25.040I have a story on my podcast this week about a woman called Julianne Mercer who thought
00:24:29.740she saw Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald sneaking a rifle onto the grassy knoll.
00:24:34.880Well, if they did that, they were profoundly stupid because they're doing this in broad
00:24:38.600daylight where they could get arrested before they even get their caper pulled off.
00:24:43.360So yeah, it's not just the fact about hyper competence.
00:24:46.400it's the contradictory ways that hyper-competence is often used.
00:24:50.800Yeah, well, I harbor a good deal of mistrust of government, and that's part of it.
00:41:57.360they're all settlers, automatically, you're all settlers. It's racism. It's exactly what that is.
00:42:03.680It's like anybody else saying, I got here first, go back where you came from. We don't accept that
00:42:08.440from people when they say that to new Canadians, or even worse, when they say it to Canadians who
00:42:12.740were born here, but they appear that they may be new Canadians. Yes, we're getting down to race
00:42:17.220again, guys. We don't accept people saying go back where you came from in that case, because it is,
00:42:21.040it's bigoted, it's wrong, but we accept it when it comes from these hammerheads calling people
00:42:27.320settlers, even if they'd had three, four generations of family here. And how is that
00:42:31.780helping our society? How is that helping them? But you see, it drives into, again, this was coming
00:42:36.680from a First Nations person, that sense of victimhood. Everything and anything wrong in my1.00
00:42:40.820life is the settler's fault. It couldn't be me. Couldn't be that I didn't get out of bed in time0.99
00:42:45.480to go to work. Couldn't be that I didn't invest my money wisely. Look, the victim mentality holds
00:42:54.000people down. People really have been victims of things a lot of times, absolutely. But when you
00:42:59.120mire yourself in it, when you turn yourself into a chronic victim, there's a, Nico's been pulling
00:43:05.780out, yeah, the tweet, look at that, you know, 350,000 views. But when you turn yourself into
00:43:10.840that victim, you can't crawl out of it. You become a self-defeating person. And this settler stuff
00:43:17.000is not helping anybody at all. I mean, let's look at, for an example, again, the Chinese. The
00:43:23.260Chinese were treated horrifically in Canada, terribly, brought in for cheap labor to build a
00:43:29.760railway, abused under terrible working conditions, separated from their families, paid next to
00:43:35.900nothing. I mean, it was this close to being literal slave labor. And then when the railway was
00:43:40.160done. They found themselves on the West Coast. They were abused. There were practical pogroms.
00:43:44.580They were stuffed onto ships and deported. They were treated like crap. And there's been a lot
00:43:49.860of apologies for that treatment from the government and things since then. But look at the Chinese1.00
00:43:53.760community today. Did they mire themselves in the victimhood because of that abuse? No.
00:43:58.300They, in fact, got the best revenge they could by succeeding. The Asian community in Canada is doing0.99
00:44:04.140fantastic. If you look at statistically, if we're looking at ethnic breakdowns for high levels of
00:44:09.500education, high levels of compensation, business ownership, all of those measures, the Chinese are
00:44:14.580doing, you know, of generations in Canada doing fantastic because they didn't roll over themselves
00:44:20.160and say we're victims and we're just going to piss and moan about it for the rest of our lives. They
00:44:24.140got up and kept working and I really, really respect them for that. Likewise with Japanese1.00
00:44:28.800Canadians. If you go down to Southern Alberta, there's a really cool thing you'll see out there,
00:44:32.700Southeast Alberta, lots of people with Japanese last names with an Asian appearance, yet they're
00:44:37.340farmers and they talk with a southern Alberta prairie accent because they've been there for
00:44:42.180generations but the reason they're down there by Tabor and Tilly and all those areas is because0.60
00:44:47.720there was a great big internment camp in World War II the Japanese were screwed we stole their
00:44:53.040property or I won't say we I don't that's a term I should stop using when it comes to the government0.88
00:44:57.080at that time stole their property stuffed them in there and kept them in those camps till the end of
00:45:03.000the war when the war was over they basically said okay you're all free now goodbye they didn't even
00:45:06.040give them rides back to Vancouver where they took them from so they were basically walking around
00:45:09.140the prairies so they started working sugar beet farms as laborers and worked their butts off
00:45:14.720and since then the people the descendants of them are very strong community members have large farms
00:45:20.560businesses a presence down there in southeast Alberta same thing they didn't mire themselves
00:45:24.960in their victimhood they were very mistreated very wronged and there have been apology apologies for0.80
00:45:29.980it but they didn't leave themselves stuck there so when we take on this settler colonial crap
00:45:36.100and we keep blaming anything and everything well we don't but some people do anything and everything
00:45:40.440wrong in their lives with the settlers and with the colonials and we're seeing it of course when
00:45:43.400it comes to israel too but that's a separate discussion altogether it's self-defeating and
00:45:47.820it's just bringing everybody down and dividing us from each other it's not helping anybody
00:45:52.480so let's cut it out either way i was very happy to see such a strong majority of people rejecting
00:45:58.020this ding dong when he claimed that settler crap. People aren't taking it. Canadians are smarter
00:46:02.840than these extremists give us credit for. And you know what? You know, Mr. Stanley saying everything's
00:46:09.020racist today. Yeah, it feels like it. And that's why some people don't speak up. They fear being
00:46:11.960labeled with that because it's a terrible thing to be labeled with. But when it comes to this
00:46:15.460settler colonial stuff, speak up, push back, tell them to get stuffed. The majority is on your side.0.99
00:46:20.880All right. That's all the time I've got today, guys. Thank you for coming in today. Even if I
00:46:25.700worked up all you guys and your conspiracy things email me if you're mad about it we can chat about
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00:46:34.840haven't already watch for the pipeline that's going to be coming on a little later and yeah
00:46:39.040watch for those top stories there's a lot of stuff developing and unfolding as we speak right now so
00:46:43.080thank you again for tuning in we will see you all again next week at this time
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