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00:00:30.000 Good day. Welcome to the Corey Morgan Show. As you might have gathered, I am Corey Morgan. This is my weekly opportunity to bend your ear, rant, rave, talk to some guests, cover some subjects, and have a good time. Or at least I enjoy it anyway. Sometimes the viewers enjoy it. Sometimes they get upset with me. Ah, you know, it doesn't bother me when you get upset. But, you know, it gets our blood pressure going. It makes things interesting. You can't just always read the columns. This way you can kind of hear them.

00:00:57.360 It's just, again, so much news, lots of dark news, sometimes lighter things as well to

00:01:01.660 cover today.

00:01:02.160 We're going to get into a bunch of that.

00:01:03.780 I got a very interesting guest coming on.

00:01:05.460 It is, for those who are watching live right now, it is the 60th anniversary today of the

00:01:10.800 assassination of John F. Kennedy in Dallas that day.

00:01:14.720 And of course, there's lots of theories and ideas on how or who or what happened there

00:01:19.160 that day.

00:01:20.040 Still to this day, a lot of debate and things going on about it.

00:01:22.700 So my guest is Professor Michel Gagné. I'm terrible with French names, but he's a professor

00:01:29.020 and he's written on conspiracy theories in general. And we're going to talk a bit about

00:01:33.280 that. I mean, why are there so many conspiracy theories on things in general? Why do people

00:01:37.620 feel inclined to believe some of them when there's very shaky evidence? Or why are people

00:01:41.880 so quick to dismiss them if sometimes they're real? It's a hard thing, but with the internet,

00:01:47.180 it's a whole new challenge on trying to keep up with truth from fiction. All right. So I'm going

00:01:52.600 to get it going on one of my truths and how I tell you how I spent my weekend. So one of the

00:01:58.340 best ways to get me to do something is to tell me I can't do it. That's just my stubborn pugnacious

00:02:03.840 nature. So thus, I found myself riding the LRT in Edmonton last Sunday when I didn't really need to

00:02:09.260 use it to get anywhere. You see, the Edmonton Transit Service, which goes by ETS, put out a

00:02:14.200 statement a little while ago to media outlets that said media would be banned from public transit

00:02:18.920 facilities unless they sought and got permission to go there first. Now, being a unionized gang,

00:02:25.080 of course, you could only get permission from nine to five on weekdays from these guys.

00:02:28.720 So if there were any events that needed coverage and they happened to be happening in the evenings

00:02:32.960 or the weekends, I guess the press wouldn't be allowed to report on it. The requirement's

00:02:36.600 ridiculous. It's a clear violation of freedom of the press. The Canadian Constitution Foundation 0.87

00:02:41.600 immediately released a statement saying they're going to take ETS to court if they don't back off

00:02:45.900 on this. Higher-ups within Edmonton City Hall, they scrambled to respond, and they claimed there

00:02:49.720 was no such restriction placed on media. People just misunderstood the statement. Oh, I see. Well,

00:02:55.840 let's have a look at the statement, then I'll read it to you and see if you misunderstand it or not.

00:02:59.680 Here's the statement. It came under the heading, Media on ETS Property. It says, media are required,

00:03:05.740 required, not suggested, to notify the City of Edmonton prior to reporting, filming, or conducting

00:03:11.260 business on ETS property. This includes transit centers, LRT stations, stops along the valley

00:03:16.360 line southeast, and inside all buses or trains. If you wish to gain access to ETS property,

00:03:22.240 please contact blah blah blah. How could this be misunderstood? It was pretty clear. They're

00:03:27.020 saying media needs their permission to go on public property and do its job. Now, the reason

00:03:33.100 ETS wants to keep us from reporting on transit property is pretty obvious. As with most major

00:03:38.540 cities, Edmonton's transit systems turned into a dystopian, addict-ridden nightmare.

00:03:43.200 Riding had become unpleasant at best and outright dangerous at worst.

00:03:46.880 Edmonton police at one point even recommended people avoid using transit.

00:03:50.840 Now, like all good bureaucracies, rather than fixing the problem, the first instinct

00:03:54.500 on the part of the pointy-headed little bureaucrats was to cover it up, and that 0.87

00:03:58.560 meant banning the press. Former Western Standard reporter Arthur Green used to

00:04:02.500 drive them nuts. He made it a personal mission to expose the addict-fueled mayhem happening

00:04:06.620 in Edmonton's downtown and on the transit systems. He constantly embarrassed ETS as he posted photos

00:04:12.180 and video of some of the horrific scenes happening on transit facilities. Green's photos, they were

00:04:16.880 often actually pretty tough to view as he highlighted the human misery and waste happening

00:04:20.380 on city streets and transit lines, but they needed to be seen. Rest assured, Arthur's work

00:04:25.380 was part of what inspired the idiotic attempt by ETS to control the press on public transit. 0.99

00:04:32.160 So when I read that ETS statement, my first thought was, who the hell do you guys think you are? 0.99

00:04:36.620 and i knew i'd have to put their rules to the test i mean the sheer arrogance of these bureaucrats

00:04:40.300 and thinking they could stop media was galling they likely felt inspired though as they've

00:04:44.460 watched the federal government beat on canada's free press with bills c11 and c18 so why can't

00:04:48.940 civic governments do it too right it appeared to some paper pushers it's open season on press rights

00:04:54.380 and they wanted to pile on i tweeted out i'd be riding on city transit live tweeted my actions as

00:04:58.620 i rode on and reported it on the conditions on the train and in the facilities i didn't really

00:05:03.100 expect EDS to do anything about it, and they didn't. Their requirement for permission was just

00:05:07.260 a bluster. Now let's get on to the ironic part of this story. I'm happy to report, actually,

00:05:11.920 when I wrote it, things have actually improved quite a bit on Edmonton Transit lines. Yes,

00:05:15.640 I saw addicts. I smelled urine. I saw property damage. I witnessed a seemingly endless line of

00:05:20.760 tents and makeshift shelters built along the line near Stadium Station. They do have some serious

00:05:25.060 issues to deal with. But I also saw a very visible presence of security guards, peace officers,

00:05:29.680 cleaning crews, and police at the stations. I mean, one young lady was being arrested when I

00:05:33.640 went by, but at least they're doing their job. The platforms and the trains were actually

00:05:36.820 relatively clean, despite the smell, and efforts were being made to keep it so. Now, it was a

00:05:41.580 Sunday afternoon. I might have been seeing things at their best, but all the same, ETS and Edmonton

00:05:45.580 authorities were clearly trying to keep transit safe and clean. Now, if I'd been blocked from

00:05:49.840 going on transit, or if I'd listened to them, I wouldn't have been able to report this good news.

00:05:53.260 That's the great irony of it all. They don't allow us to report on the good things either,

00:05:56.760 or at least they'd like to stop it.

00:05:58.280 The reason they were making such efforts

00:05:59.700 was due to the work of Arthur Green

00:06:01.720 and other journalists who were willing to cover

00:06:03.420 the disorder and issues on the Edmonton transit system.

00:06:06.000 Rest assured, the powers that be would have preferred

00:06:07.680 to just ignore the issue if they could.

00:06:10.020 Free and unfettered media holds governments accountable.

00:06:12.960 They bring issues into the living rooms of citizens

00:06:14.640 who wouldn't have been able to see what's going on otherwise.

00:06:17.420 I mean, most people never realized

00:06:18.540 the mayhem happening in transit

00:06:20.040 until they saw the images

00:06:21.040 and saw the stories about it in the media.

00:06:22.980 Then they demanded politicians do something about it.

00:06:25.780 Media is financially embattled right now by changing times and politically threatened by

00:06:29.580 authoritarian politicians and bureaucrats. We don't and won't give up easily. If the pressures

00:06:35.000 continue as they have, though, we're going to lose more access to unfiltered information and news,

00:06:38.860 and our entire democracy could then be threatened. So be sure to speak up loudly when arrogant and

00:06:45.020 dimwitted bureaucrats, such as those with ETS, try to block free media, because if they get away with 0.97

00:06:49.180 it, we all suffer from it. All right, that's what got me up and going. As I said, I survived the 0.70

00:06:55.060 ride on the train without being stabbed or shot or anything of the sort. I really was actually

00:06:58.720 impressed that there's definitely a visible security presence and efforts to keep things

00:07:03.100 clean. So good on them. They got more to do, but it's a good start and I'm happy to report good

00:07:07.540 stuff now and then. Let's see what else is going on out there in the news world with our news

00:07:10.640 editor, Dave Naylor. Hey Dave, how's it going? Very busy, Corey. You know what you should do?

00:07:15.600 You should try going for a ride on the Calgary LRT. Compare the two. Yeah, it's time for one. I

00:07:20.500 haven't ridden on it in quite a while. It was pretty gnarly the last time, but maybe Calgary

00:07:23.640 has improved as well. I'll have to find some time and pop on there and have a look.

00:07:27.000 There you go. Breaking news at the moment, Corey, coming out of the border crossing from

00:07:34.380 Niagara Falls into the United States, city of Buffalo. There appears to have been a terrorist

00:07:39.880 attack. A car full of explosives driving from Canada hit the U.S. border guards, causing what

00:07:47.700 appears to be a big explosion. Fox is reporting that two people were killed in the blast. Not

00:07:55.460 sure what the, if they were both in the car or there was a border people killed. It's prompted 0.99

00:08:01.500 an immediate border clampdown. All the four bridges from Ontario into New York state have

00:08:09.960 been shut down on the U.S. side. They're now being guarded by the U.S. anti-terrorism force.

00:08:18.740 FBI is already at the scene in Buffalo and probably leading the investigation.

00:08:27.040 This comes just a week or so, Corey.

00:08:29.220 Our car is right there. My car is right inside.

00:08:31.540 It was reported, warned the Canadian government that a terrorist attack could happen in Calgary.

00:08:37.800 I have no idea.

00:08:39.960 It appears the UK government may have been true, so we're going to keep an eye on that obviously all day as developments occur.

00:08:53.960 Other stories, the Alberta government has responded to the fiscal update yesterday, and as you can imagine, they're not overly impressed.

00:09:04.960 Big announcement on health care in Alberta this morning where the province is going to allow licensed practical nurses to operate their own clinics.

00:09:15.120 The licensed practical nurses are sort of more trained than regular nurses and in fact do about 80% of what a doctor can do.

00:09:24.140 So they're going to allow those people with the right training to open up their own offices.

00:09:30.340 A story still reverberating from yesterday where Calgary police have now apologized to the family of two brothers, one only 14 years old, the other 18, who were arrested last week for the brazen daylight shooting up near Marlborough Park.

00:09:49.980 I guess they got the wrong guys and have apologized.

00:09:55.400 You know, Corey, in my 30 years or so of covering crime in Calgary,

00:10:00.000 I've never seen anything quite like that apology yesterday.

00:10:06.600 So, yeah, very busy morning, Corey.

00:10:08.580 And like I said, we'll keep track of the New York Niagara Falls terror incident

00:10:15.180 and update it minute by minute.

00:10:17.560 Right on.

00:10:18.320 Well, I'll let you get back to following those things

00:10:21.280 and getting that news up there as it breaks.

00:10:22.960 dave i appreciate the update and i'll talk to you after the show thanks for that is our news editor

00:10:28.600 dave naylor as you see stuff is breaking watch the western standard news site you know keep it

00:10:33.440 on the side of your screen of course while this show is going uh but we do cover things as they

00:10:38.320 are unfolding and i mean there's a lot to unpack with what's going on in new york it sounds like

00:10:42.620 uh yeah that's the first i'd heard now that perhaps two people are dead we don't know what

00:10:46.880 happened though it was it a propane tank that went off was it a crazed terrorist was it an

00:10:51.520 individual we don't know we're going to find out but things like this could certainly snowball into

00:10:55.280 something much much worse it's of great concern so westernstandard.news guys that's where you will

00:11:00.600 find it we put those stories up as soon as they hit and hey the reason we can do it is because

00:11:05.520 you guys subscribe we're an independent outlet those of you who have subscribed already thank

00:11:10.080 you very much if you haven't yet get on there guys westernstandard.news membership 9.99 a month

00:11:15.600 100 a year that's the way we can cover these stories that's the way i can ride trains up and

00:11:20.460 down and complain about transit service. And that's the way we can keep media independent

00:11:24.220 and covering those stories. All right. Let's see, just to cover a bit of that, you know,

00:11:28.040 I see some of the discussion that came up with Dave mentioned, uh, Premier Smith has said she,

00:11:32.760 she's going to have nurse practitioners allowing it so they can open clinics and do things. And

00:11:37.200 of course the immediate response from Wildrose and Wildrose is a commenter on here who's made

00:11:41.500 this comment before quite often. Great private for profit healthcare. You know, you don't even

00:11:46.080 know what the story is yet, but the initial instinct is, oh my God, private for profit

00:11:50.820 healthcare. Well, a couple of things. There's nothing wrong with that. It's already here.

00:11:55.940 What we're talking about is exactly what a private doctor does. When you go to the clinic,

00:12:01.360 you go to the doctor, that doctor's paying the lease, that doctor's paying the nurses,

00:12:05.000 the doctor's running a business, and the doctor takes a profit. It's just all publicly funded.

00:12:12.180 So this nurse practitioner thing would be the exact same thing, except it would be a nurse

00:12:17.320 practitioner rather than a full out physician. So why would we oppose that? What's the problem

00:12:22.260 with that? Now, there could be things to be debatable. We'd worry that perhaps the practitioner

00:12:26.240 might have a diagnosis slipped by that a full doctor, you know, there's things, there's reasons

00:12:30.900 that we could discuss that. But to dismiss it immediately as if it's a problem because

00:12:35.720 somebody might make a profit. I'm sorry, but that's how healthcare reform gets stunted. That's

00:12:40.900 how we don't have discussions to make better care. Look, our waiting lists are among the worst in the

00:12:46.280 world. When you look at the waiting lists, the cost for health care versus the outcomes that we

00:12:53.760 measure really poorly worldwide on all fronts. We've got fantastic health care providers once

00:12:59.580 you can get in, but you could be very ill and waiting a long time to get there. Now, we also

00:13:05.080 know, most of us know, there's a whole lot of things that people go to a doctor's office for

00:13:09.280 and they don't necessarily need to see a doctor.

00:13:12.340 How many times do you need to see a full-out physician

00:13:14.260 and tie it up at the emergency room or a doctor's office

00:13:16.420 when your kid has the sniffles?

00:13:18.200 When you have a mole you think might need further looking at

00:13:20.920 or a few other things.

00:13:22.540 I mean, I have to get my driver's license renewed every two years

00:13:25.180 because it's a class four.

00:13:26.360 I've got to get a driver's physical for it.

00:13:28.260 It's really pretty basic.

00:13:29.120 It's just checking me out to see if I've got any very evident heart conditions

00:13:33.480 or health issues or breathing problems, things like that,

00:13:36.360 and checking my eyesight.

00:13:37.420 Now, do we necessarily need a full-out physician to do that?

00:13:43.400 No, I say we don't.

00:13:45.220 And because this way, I'm not taking away the time from a physician with my driver's test.

00:13:49.840 That physician can be looking at somebody with a potentially more serious need or condition.

00:13:55.540 Donna Jean, a commenter saying doctors make mistakes too, and nurse practitioners are great at it.

00:13:59.200 That's right.

00:13:59.680 I mean, there's no assurance.

00:14:01.200 And I mean, with good training, you know, if somebody comes into something that's beyond the ability of a nurse practitioner,

00:14:06.340 presumably that practitioner is going to say, whoa, okay, you need to see somebody with more

00:14:10.680 ability, you know, and training to deal with that specialized need. But that's often the case with

00:14:15.120 a doctor as well. I mean, you see a general practitioner and they find something that

00:14:19.320 appears to be, you know, far beyond what you would see in the regular clinic. They don't treat it

00:14:22.900 there. They'll determine your best person to refer you to, whether it's a cardiologist or an

00:14:29.240 oncologist, you know, if they've seen something that's of strong concern and they will send you

00:14:32.940 in that direction. So this is a new level. I think it's quite creative. It's a way that we can

00:14:37.700 shorten those waiting lists and still make sure everybody's getting good coverage for their health

00:14:42.500 because that's what we all want in the end. So let's not be fearful of changes just because

00:14:46.080 somebody has a private shingle hanging in front of a place. It's still not coming out of your

00:14:49.680 pocket. You're still covered by your Alberta Health Services card. Don't sweat it. Don't dismiss

00:14:54.280 every innovation as if it's moved towards a privatization. But you know what? We do need

00:14:58.760 to privatize some stuff and I hope Smith goes there later. But we'll leave that for another

00:15:01.660 discussion. It's time to get on to our guest, and it's very timely, with Professor Michel Gagné,

00:15:08.560 and he's written some stuff on conspiracy theories on a couple of sites. It's been fantastic,

00:15:13.460 and the timing is good. So thank you very much for joining the show today, Michel.

00:15:18.520 Hi, Corey. It's nice to be here.

00:15:20.660 So I said off the top of the show, I mean, it happens to be the 60th anniversary, I believe,

00:15:24.920 today of the JFK assassination, and that's sort of the granddaddy of conspiracy theories. It's

00:15:31.340 going on 60 years and there still doesn't feel that a lot of people don't feel it's resolved

00:15:35.820 i wasn't born when it started but i have to tell you i got drawn into it when i was in university

00:15:41.100 i spent about 15 20 years believing the cia killed kennedy that led me to believe in a number of other

00:15:46.780 theories that eventually turned out to be false so i'm happy to say i'm out of the rabbit hole

00:15:51.820 but it uh it takes a while it takes a lot of effort to think critically to be able to get

00:15:56.700 away from uh these very kind of uh corroding myths that our society embraces far too easily

00:16:03.740 yeah well we we seem to have i i i believe i mean and you break it down into that in your

00:16:08.780 article which was fantastic too but just some of the things to watch for in a conspiracy that

00:16:12.860 perhaps isn't a legitimate one or isn't well founded but we seem to have an instinct if we

00:16:17.500 see something unusual we just want to fill the void we want to fill the question marks kind of

00:16:21.740 with our own uh interpretation of things even if it's not sourced or we'll take somebody else's

00:16:26.640 interpretation without looking more deeply and and that can turn a small conspiracy into a large one

00:16:31.520 yeah that's true uh a lot of uh smarter people than me a lot of people in uh social scientific

00:16:37.120 research have highlighted some of the major elements that make us want to believe in conspiracy

00:16:41.760 theories one of the the ones that tends to be universal is a feeling of powerlessness

00:16:46.440 You can be either unemployed or you could be Donald Trump.

00:16:50.120 If you believe that somehow you're losing power or you're being shut out of power, you're more likely to believe that there's some nefarious group that is doing this behind your back.

00:17:00.020 Our cultural ideologies tend to influence what kind of conspiracy theory we're likely to believe in.

00:17:06.080 The groups we associate with, sometimes because our friends believe it, we're part of an echo chamber that we believe that it must be true if everyone else is repeating it.

00:17:14.240 And then I think just the regular zeitgeist, you know, every generation or so, there are issues that trouble us more than our ancestors or our children will.

00:17:23.080 I know for me, it was nuclear war when I was young. Today, it seems to be climate change or vaccines.

00:17:28.800 So depending on what events struck you as odd, suspicious in your youth, particularly in your youth, we often call these flashbulb memories.

00:17:39.460 For me, it was the Reagan assassination attempt in 1981, but for many people, it's the Kennedy assassination or 9-11 or some of these other events.

00:17:48.580 Yeah, well, so we've got to, I'll kind of circle back to the Kennedy one.

00:17:53.900 I want to talk a little bit about more others soon, but I mean, I just recently actually was listening to a different podcast.

00:17:58.280 It sounds like Rob Reiner has done a long series of podcasts now, a person of pretty high profile, pretty high reach, and he goes right on to the second and third shooter theories.

00:18:08.240 he's confident that really happened and he lays it out over a matter of a number of hours so we're

00:18:12.880 not talking about an obscure uh person from years ago with a bunch of you know old uh folders they're

00:18:18.320 holding in the air now we've got contemporary celebrities that are still propagating i guess

00:18:23.040 their interpretations of what happened in those events back then and uh i i personally i think

00:18:28.240 makes some pretty large leaps of logic oh definitely this is one of the most popular ones uh

00:18:34.000 Every 10 years or so, Gallup takes a poll on this.

00:18:37.240 And it turns out that among Americans, between 60 and 70% of people generally believe in some kind of conspiracy.

00:18:44.200 Mind you, they don't necessarily agree on what kind that is.

00:18:46.720 Someone like John Kerry still has claimed that he believes the Cubans were involved in it.

00:18:51.960 We know that President Johnson believed the Cubans were involved.

00:18:55.060 Mrs. Kennedy believed that the Ku Klux Klan or some right-wing group was involved.

00:18:59.240 Even Jack Ruby, who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, believed that some anti-Semites were trying to blame this on the Jews.

00:19:06.400 So everybody has their pet theory.

00:19:08.420 And at the end of the day, because it is such a shocking event that's hard to explain,

00:19:12.720 many people are not satisfied with this idea that a lone nut, or at least an emotionally unstable person,

00:19:21.180 would be able to kill the most powerful man in the world.

00:19:23.260 But Lee Harvey Oswald was not that different than a lot of the people who are school shooters today or other perpetrators.

00:19:29.500 I think of the Tsarnaev brothers who caused the Boston bombing, marathon bombing a few years ago.

00:19:34.900 A lot of these things are caused by conspiracy belief.

00:19:37.560 I don't want to say that conspiracy believers are violent.

00:19:40.200 Most of them are not.

00:19:41.380 But they can lead to a great deal of either violence or self-harm, ostracization, depression, certainly.

00:19:49.800 It's not a healthy way to live.

00:19:53.260 No, no, certainly not. As you point out, I mean, some real conspiracies exist. You have that in your article. It's on the Aristotle Foundation, by the way, in full, and you did one for the Western Standard as well. But for example, Watergate, that was a real conspiracy. It was really underhanded. It was really government involvement, but it was all quite exposed in the end.

00:20:13.200 Or think of the sponsorship scandal. I live in Montreal. I lived through the 1995 referendum. The federal government gave a lot of money to advertisement agencies against the current laws of Quebec at that time, the referendum laws. And what do those people do with it? They bought yachts. They spent it on their debts or on restaurant dining. They didn't actually do what they were asked to do.

00:20:36.480 And in the end, we can see how conspiring is not something that's very successful when

00:20:41.520 a large group of people do it and they're not part of some network.

00:20:44.920 I mean, the CIA can kill people and keep a lid on it, at least for some time.

00:20:49.220 But when you ask a number of people in different organizations to conspire together, the odds

00:20:54.080 are it's not going to work out very well.

00:20:55.480 And it didn't work out for President Nixon either.

00:20:58.820 Yeah, well, I mean, just speaking anecdotally, I mean, if you have a circle of 10 friends

00:21:02.320 and you try to keep a secret, all 10 of you know, chances are within a week or two,

00:21:06.080 it's gonna spread well outside of that circle.

00:21:08.060 I mean, people aren't really that good at keeping secrets.

00:21:10.700 And when some of these conspiracies talk about it,

00:21:12.600 as many as hundreds or even thousands

00:21:14.280 of people keeping a secret,

00:21:15.700 it just starts to defy belief a little bit.

00:21:17.900 Yeah, I was interviewing for my podcast, Paranoid Planet.

00:21:21.340 I was interviewing a filmmaker called James Lambert.

00:21:24.660 And he pointed out that, you know,

00:21:26.560 when you start involving multiple generations

00:21:29.340 in one single conspiracy,

00:21:31.240 that's when really you're killing it with bad logic.

00:21:35.340 Because how could you predict how the next generation will do in terms of either covering up or revealing some dark secret?

00:21:43.640 So there's a number of ways, and I point these out in my article.

00:21:46.820 You don't have to be an expert in science or history to debunk a conspiracy theory.

00:21:51.400 You need to be equipped with the right kind of logic.

00:21:53.360 And sometimes circular reasoning or straw man fallacies, creating a very simplistic version of the theory you're trying to debunk so that it's easier to set it aflame.

00:22:05.340 sort of speak uh then those are you know indicators that a conspiracy theory is likely not believable

00:22:11.820 the more it is like a hollywood film script the less likely it is to be true well and there's

00:22:17.020 one stubborn one i just came off of speaking tour i was doing on weekends and twice at two different

00:22:21.180 stops we had people come up and ask the question about the old chemtrails which is contrails from

00:22:26.700 jets you see in the sky and and you know i've talked to people they're not necessarily foolish 0.71

00:22:31.420 people. They're lucid. They're typically rational, but somehow they believe that, again, tens of 0.92

00:22:37.540 thousands or hundreds of thousands of pilots and baggage workers and chemists and who knows else

00:22:42.200 are all tied in with the government, and they're trying to poison us through spray coming from jets

00:22:46.700 and planes above us. It just seems to defy when I talk to this person. Really, this is not a foolish

00:22:51.440 person, yet they're clinging to something that just seems so irrational. I don't understand how

00:22:55.800 it spreads like that. Well, I think we live in an age where we're very suspicious of people in

00:23:00.080 authority. And that's unfortunate. I mean, we should be skeptical. People in authority are

00:23:04.340 still humans. And if they're given the chance, they might be corrupt. They might do something

00:23:08.100 illegal. But ultimately, if we start with the default assumption that scientists, professors,

00:23:14.760 journalists like yourself are deliberately part of some larger scheme, then we're not even giving

00:23:21.060 ourselves a chance to look for truth. We start with the assumption that everything happens

00:23:26.100 behind closed doors by some furtive force that we can only identify with words like oligarchy

00:23:32.120 or patriarchy or military-industrial complex. At the end of the day, these words don't mean

00:23:38.280 anything. Yeah, well, one of the things to watch for as well, you pointed out, was an assumption

00:23:42.520 of hyper-confidence. I mean, when we look at government, this is the same sort of person who

00:23:46.300 would sit and say, look, I feel Trudeau's a fool and his cabinet's weak and the bureaucrats are 0.99

00:23:51.380 incompetent, but somehow they're pulling off a massive conspiracy to do such and such. Well, 1.00

00:23:56.260 you've got a conflict of your logic going on right there. It's one of the things perhaps

00:23:59.540 people should watch for. Don't assume that the government's really that good at being able to

00:24:03.420 keep a conspiracy like this. What's interesting is often that same line, those two contradictory

00:24:08.740 points are made by the same people, that somehow the conspirators are hyper competent, so they can

00:24:13.480 use laser beams or they can somehow brainwash us through the media. But at the same time, they are

00:24:18.500 so incompetent that they leave this breadcrumb of evidence supposedly all over the place.

00:24:25.040 I have a story on my podcast this week about a woman called Julianne Mercer who thought

00:24:29.740 she saw Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald sneaking a rifle onto the grassy knoll. 0.99

00:24:34.880 Well, if they did that, they were profoundly stupid because they're doing this in broad 0.99

00:24:38.600 daylight where they could get arrested before they even get their caper pulled off. 1.00

00:24:43.360 So yeah, it's not just the fact about hyper competence.

00:24:46.400 it's the contradictory ways that hyper-competence is often used.

00:24:50.800 Yeah, well, I harbor a good deal of mistrust of government, and that's part of it.

00:24:54.080 And you should.

00:24:54.760 I traffic in it, and they give me lots to work with.

00:24:57.580 But at the same time, I mean, I don't always assume every move is malignant,

00:25:01.280 but some of the things we could dismiss, you know, the moon landing theory.

00:25:04.340 Fine, people are very dedicated and feeling it was fake,

00:25:06.500 but there's not too much harm done in a sense of holding on to that one.

00:25:10.960 But ones that worry me sometimes are medical conspiracies,

00:25:14.220 the ones where they say, oh, pharmaceutical companies and doctors are hiding the cure for

00:25:18.380 cancer because they make more money treating people with cancer. And, you know, that takes

00:25:23.160 the assumption that these doctors will die and let their family members die. And these pharmaceutical

00:25:26.960 heads will die rather than let up the secret of this cure for cancer they're hiding. I mean,

00:25:31.880 it just, again, defies sense. But the thing that gets me is it might encourage people to avoid

00:25:35.980 treatment for something that may be very treatable. And that's when it moves into the realm of the

00:25:40.180 dangerous. Yeah, I'm not a medical expert, but I've looked into this enough to see that

00:25:45.760 there's no evidence, for example, that vaccines cause autism. And yet we have a candidate right

00:25:50.760 now, or the Americans have a candidate running for president, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who says

00:25:56.260 that they do, who believe that the COVID vaccines were some kind of a racket, and even that the CIA

00:26:03.200 murdered his uncle. So even people in very high places can believe this. But I have to say that

00:26:08.780 as far as vaccines go there we have to understand the psychology of vaccines is not like other

00:26:15.180 medicine you go to the hospital you get treated once you're sick vaccines are a form of uh therapy

00:26:21.260 a medical therapy that we use before we're sick so it's very counterintuitive and i think that's

00:26:26.060 why a lot of people refers refuse to take a vaccine because they would rather live with the

00:26:31.100 evil that they know say covid and rather than the evil that they don't know or that they presume

00:26:36.700 which is mercury in in the in presumably mercury or other toxins in the vaccines so um the fact

00:26:44.940 that knowledge has become so complex on issues like health care uh feeds into um the suspicions

00:26:52.380 that people have because there's just not enough time for most of us to get educated on these

00:26:56.220 subjects and that's why i say we do need to defer to experts uh maybe not you know without uh some

00:27:02.860 skepticism but perhaps we've gone too far in thinking that every person is their own expert

00:27:08.380 you know just like uh you know the roots of protest protestantism so that every man is his

00:27:13.020 own priest but you have to have also some knowledge to be able to make affirmations

00:27:18.860 yeah well and and we get as you said that the vaccines cause autism when for example or i see

00:27:23.340 a commenter saying the polio vaccine was a real vaccine so a lot of people have faith in the older

00:27:26.700 vaccines but that conspiracy theory of the autism which was very heavily disproven over years and

00:27:31.500 years, multiple studies, lots of times. That wasn't over the COVID vaccine. That was over

00:27:35.620 the MMR vaccines that have been used for a long, long time. That's quite different than what was

00:27:42.620 applied now when we get into COVID, which is a newer vaccine. And people, when you're getting

00:27:47.540 coerced into taking it, I can understand people's misgivings and fears and when it hasn't been as

00:27:53.080 long established as some of the other vaccinations. So I mean, there's some difference, but that

00:27:57.540 mistrust can lead to issues, of course. That's true. Look, I have a personal anecdote about

00:28:01.300 this, and that is when the vaccines were available for people 50 years and older, at the time I was

00:28:06.840 about 48, and I couldn't wait to actually get my shot because I want to be able to have the freedom

00:28:11.300 to go to places where there were vaccine mandates. I went three or four times to get the AstraZeneca

00:28:16.600 shot, but every time I went, they were out of doses. So I ended up getting the Pfizer, but

00:28:22.520 between the time that I tried to get the AstraZeneca to the time that I got the Pfizer, which was

00:28:27.140 believed to be safer, I had some serious health issues, chest pains that turned out to be not

00:28:32.960 cardiac, but at the time I believe they were, it had to do with my gallbladder. So had I actually

00:28:37.960 had these chest pains after taking the AstraZeneca, I might be one of those people right now thinking

00:28:43.140 that the vaccines made me sick. So sometimes there's confirmation bias, other things might

00:28:48.760 make us ill, or there might be that we have a particular reaction to the vaccines that

00:28:53.680 millions of people will not have. And at the time of COVID, I think there was a certain

00:29:00.040 balancing act to do. Of course, many people, including myself, didn't feel comfortable with

00:29:06.280 the government coercing. But at the same time, we had a health scare in which most people want to

00:29:13.300 get back to normal. And vaccines, I believe, were a way to get back to normal. But many decisions

00:29:18.780 were taken very quickly because time was short. It's like a pregnancy. You only have nine months

00:29:25.080 to decide if you're keeping the child or not. So as far as vaccines go, we only had a few months

00:29:30.880 determine what products to put on the market. Yeah. And people had, again, concerns about

00:29:37.120 rushes to vaccines. I just recently read a story about a potential vaccine that may

00:29:41.940 help with Alzheimer's disease. Actually, it's interesting. It's a protein-based thing. But

00:29:50.120 the first experiments with it, they found they were causing brain swelling and trouble with

00:29:53.200 people when they were starting human trials. So they backed off and had to change it. But I'm

00:29:57.340 just saying that you can't fully dismiss people's concerns with a rushed vaccine because vaccines

00:30:01.920 can have some serious consequences. Definitely. And I think the biggest problem is that there

00:30:06.540 kind of a shutdown of debate uh the media and and the government uh the trudeau government you know

00:30:12.540 we're not really allowing a full conversation on this uh because they didn't want to um to feed

00:30:18.940 conspiracy theories but at the same time i think uh more suspicion was fed because people didn't

00:30:23.740 feel they had any platform for sharing their views so perhaps what could have happened or should have

00:30:29.020 happened is that people who had a better grasp of the issue uh scientists sociologists economists

00:30:35.980 should have been given more room to debate this publicly so that the person on the street didn't

00:30:40.860 feel that they had to go to some obscure website uh to get some some information that may or may

00:30:45.580 not have been useful to them yeah well we're gonna see more and more as i think as we see uh well the

00:30:51.500 the sharing of information through social media and uh authoritarian governance unfortunately

00:30:55.660 doing things that cause more mistrust between people and them so the the theories will uh

00:31:00.300 continue but i mean we we just have to always be on guard and see which theories perhaps have some

00:31:04.220 merit to them and which are well and many are a lot of bunk unfortunately so where can we find

00:31:09.180 more information about your work and and your articles and such well there's the aristotle

00:31:12.940 foundation where you're going to find the article i published this week uh i also wrote a book

00:31:17.100 recently last year called thinking critically about the kennedy assassination it's essentially

00:31:21.820 a critical thinking handbook but it's it's pretty thick as most kennedy books go but i think it's

00:31:26.860 accessible for anybody with at least a high school education and then i have my podcast which is a

00:31:32.060 is a little bit more popular level.

00:31:34.500 It's called Paranoid Planet

00:31:36.060 and the website is www.paranoidplanet.ca.

00:31:40.240 Well, great.

00:31:41.080 Well, thank you very much for joining us today.

00:31:42.500 And well, we'll keep a watch for more articles

00:31:45.120 from you then, Professor.

00:31:46.460 Thank you, Corey.

00:31:47.300 It was great to have, to be on your show.

00:31:49.280 Great, thanks.

00:31:50.460 So yes, guys, I know I see through the commenters,

00:31:52.980 it's got some folks stirred up.

00:31:54.320 Here comes one of the usual responses

00:31:55.500 from commenter Jim Duskus.

00:31:57.060 Morgan, are you a shill for Big Pharma?

00:31:59.520 Yes, yes.

00:32:00.660 Can't you tell from the, you know, the luxury car I drive?

00:32:04.280 Oh, no, I drive a Hyundai.

00:32:05.380 Actually, it's not vaccines, I pushed, Jim.

00:32:07.960 It's the little blue pill, but due to CRTC regulations, I can't stand up and show you how effective it's been for me.

00:32:14.260 Thus, you know, the millions that Big Pharma gave me haven't worked out.

00:32:17.480 I'll just have to have it go to online reviews as to how well it's done.

00:32:20.600 Come on, guys.

00:32:21.160 Just because I'm talking about these things doesn't mean I'm a shill for this, a shill for that.

00:32:26.200 We can have critical discussions on things.

00:32:27.960 And that's what Michelle was kind of saying. 0.95

00:32:30.700 That was part of the problem that happened over the pandemic.

00:32:32.980 Everything was rushed and people were shutting down discussion.

00:32:35.960 And that causes more mistrust.

00:32:37.620 That causes people to dig their heels in and get more concerned about things.

00:32:41.520 I'm not dismissing every concern with the COVID vaccines by any means.

00:32:45.600 I got vaccinated and crossed the border a few years ago.

00:32:47.760 And I remember some people going wild on my show about that.

00:32:49.500 You see, you see, you're one of them.

00:32:50.620 No, I wanted to cross the border.

00:32:52.040 And no, I wasn't as worried about it as others.

00:32:54.500 Hey, paradoxically, you drive a Hyundai as well.

00:32:55.940 Okay.

00:32:56.180 Okay. But just because I chose to get it doesn't mean I support the coercion of others getting it.

00:33:02.720 I've always supported the free choice of people. Watch for the difference, guys. It's not all or

00:33:08.160 nothing. As long as there's choice and discourse, then we shouldn't have a problem. And that's why,

00:33:15.600 you know, we have these discussions on this show. You don't have to agree with everything we're

00:33:18.340 talking about, but we're having the conversation on it. And people will make their own conclusions

00:33:22.700 and determinations from that. So yeah, I know not everybody's going to agree, but I mean,

00:33:27.060 there's, as we said, there's all kinds of conspiracies or there's urban legends. Those

00:33:31.280 are big ones. I remember when I was going to school, I think it was Hubba Bubba that supposedly

00:33:34.840 had spider eggs in it. Jim Daska saying there was no choice. Yeah, Jim, I agree. I think coercion

00:33:41.200 isn't choice. You see, I have always vehemently and regularly said that I've said it's wrong to

00:33:48.560 make a person to have to choose between keeping their job and getting a vaccination. It's wrong

00:33:52.800 to make a person choose between going to a school and getting a vaccination. It's wrong to make a

00:33:57.040 person choose between getting a vaccination and traveling to see friends, loved ones, or go to

00:34:00.920 places or take part in sports. I've always said all those things, Jim. Yet when I talk about one

00:34:05.340 thing you don't like, you say, are you a shill for big pharma? Well, no, I'm not, Jim. I don't have

00:34:09.760 enough money for that. But either way, it was a good discussion. If you want to find more, you

00:34:13.780 know, again, let's have the discussion. That's what we're about. It really is. Don't have to

00:34:18.180 agree with me. And as we see, lots of people often don't. All right, let's discuss some of the other

00:34:22.240 stupid crap going on out there. There's always lots. And we've had an interesting bill. It's 1.00

00:34:26.980 kind of making the news right now because it's not even so much what's in the bill,

00:34:31.040 but the way the politics are being played around it that shows how sick and broken our government

00:34:35.580 is. So it's Bill C-234. It was a private member's bill. And those things don't often actually make

00:34:40.960 it all the way through. And this one is a bill that would basically exempt farmers from the

00:34:47.880 carbon tax for grain dryers, propane, things like that. It's costing us. It's costing all the way

00:34:51.520 down to our food and everything else we get from our agricultural producers and the rest.

00:34:58.420 And this is a good bill. And it passed, you know, and it says when it voted through Parliament,

00:35:03.700 176 in favor, or even a few Liberal MPs voted in favor of it. You know, this is another carbon tax

00:35:08.780 car vote is what it would be. Of course, every Conservative member did. NDP and Block did as

00:35:13.200 well, and even the green. So it looked like this bill was going to make it through. It was going

00:35:18.060 to become another exemption for the carbon tax for our food producers. It would save us some money

00:35:23.120 getting food to the table, save our farmers some money. Well, not quite. What's happening now?

00:35:30.320 Trudeau's trying to stop it through the Senate. So while he allowed it through Parliament,

00:35:35.220 or couldn't stop it, he's trying to stop it in the Senate. And how's he doing it? He's stacking

00:35:40.060 the Senate. He's appointed three more senators. He just stuffs them in there. And then like little

00:35:45.460 barking seals, they will vote however they're told. And they see there's one of the BS. This

00:35:49.100 isn't a conspiracy. This is just a government lie. Let's talk about that. Oh, liberal senators

00:35:53.500 are now independent. Yeah, right. Look at their behavior. They vote as they're told. We saw that

00:35:59.320 repeatedly with Paula Simons, who drives me nuts with her hypocrisy in there. She's supposedly 1.00

00:36:03.760 supposed to represent Albertans in the Senate. And I tell you what, I really respect Simons

00:36:07.940 because she did some fantastic columns

00:36:11.540 on some of the terrible stuff

00:36:13.000 in child welfare cases in Edmonton in the past

00:36:15.520 when she was a journalist.

00:36:16.280 But once she got appointed at the Senate,

00:36:18.080 she became Trudeau's little gal in there 0.55

00:36:20.200 and she does what she's told,

00:36:21.700 even though they say independent.

00:36:23.760 Well, these three new independent senators,

00:36:26.120 how do you think they're going to vote

00:36:27.420 on this carbon tax bill

00:36:29.820 that's going through the Senate?

00:36:31.280 They're going to shut it out.

00:36:32.320 Now, it's just my prediction.

00:36:33.500 It hasn't happened yet at this point.

00:36:35.440 But guys, they're going to shut it down.

00:36:38.700 So again, it shows the abuse and waste in our system.

00:36:42.460 I mean, the unelected, the totally appointed by Trudeau ones,

00:36:46.200 those barking seals in Senate will get to shut down a bill

00:36:49.120 that's gone through every other level of parliament

00:36:51.900 because Justin doesn't want yet another embarrassment.

00:36:56.220 Like he can avoid them, right?

00:36:59.860 Let's see, from Momzilla, a commenter saying the car explosion on the Peace Bridge.

00:37:03.460 Yeah, we talked about that earlier.

00:37:04.960 all bridges are closed while the FBI investigates. Yeah. So for people watching live, I guess if

00:37:09.540 you're Ontario, you're thinking of crossing the border, you aren't going to make it on any land

00:37:12.880 crossings. Probably I'd bet in the next couple of days when it's something this serious, it's going

00:37:16.360 to be interesting to see what comes out of that. Paradox, he said triple E, you know, there's a term

00:37:21.080 that we don't hear often enough anymore. And that stood for, that was way back in the reform days.

00:37:25.940 That was the big call out. There were farmers who carved that into fields out here in Western

00:37:30.580 Canada. It stands for Senate reform, which is equal, effective, and elected, which would mean,

00:37:36.760 say, for example, I don't know, every province and territory got three senators each making it equal.

00:37:41.440 And if it was elected, they would be elected. That E stands for itself. They would become effective

00:37:46.820 if those other two E's came about. That would be automatic. But as it is, it's just a pasture for 0.91

00:37:51.820 old men and women for political patronage, where you get a huge salary, a lot of giant pension for 0.96

00:37:58.560 it in its appointment. You don't have to face the electorate for it. And you just do what you're

00:38:02.620 told by the government once you're in there. Paradox is saying, I'd be surprised if there's

00:38:07.120 any border crossings open. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Any land crossings right now,

00:38:10.740 they might be really, I imagine if they're open out here in the West or whatever, they're going

00:38:14.520 really, really slowly. So all I can recommend to people watching this live is, you know,

00:38:18.740 check, there's online things for border crossings, check with your news and things like that and

00:38:22.820 make sure it is open for you. Okay, let's see, the latest polling, speaking of Trudeau, you can see

00:38:30.060 the desperation, and this is where we get dangerous in Canada, it really does. Trudeau's got his back

00:38:34.160 against the wall. I keep thinking, and he keeps proving me wrong, I'm wrong sometimes, I gotta

00:38:38.320 admit it, and I know lots of people love to point it out when it happens, but that dingbat will not

00:38:43.320 back down, he's in the toilet, he's not going to come back, the Liberals are not going to win the 0.79

00:38:47.740 next election under his inept leadership, but he will not go. And they are such a top-down 0.81

00:38:52.980 subservient party, they won't rip him out of there. And I'm just looking at these polling

00:38:57.760 numbers. If an election were held today, conservatives would take 208 seats. The

00:39:04.860 liberals would take 71. That's a drop of almost 90 seats. The bloc would probably be about the

00:39:10.660 same, the NDP about the same, and the green about the same. Like this is a collapse of support. This

00:39:15.100 is going in the toilet. Now, someone to be fair, though, we could be unfortunately still because

00:39:20.220 Jagmeet, you know, he knows he's as close to power as he's ever going to get. He'll shore up this

00:39:23.880 government no matter what. But if he goes two more years, two more years in politics is a long

00:39:30.840 time. Warren Kinsella, a person a lot of us love to hate, but he can make some valid points. He's

00:39:35.800 worried that conservatives are peaking too fast. It's one thing to be this strong in support right

00:39:39.500 now. But can you maintain that for two more years? It's politics. You're just all one,

00:39:44.080 aw crap, away from suddenly dropping again 20 points in the polls. So the best time to be 0.92

00:39:49.020 sitting in polls like this, of course, is a week or two before voting day, not potentially two years

00:39:53.900 before it gets here. All the same, they're really nice numbers to see because this is a government

00:39:58.240 that clearly Canadians have had enough of. And it's showing in those numbers. It's just whether

00:40:04.160 or not they'll last. Now, and yeah, and again, as they get desperate, Trudeau's going to do more

00:40:10.300 desperate things to try and turn that around. I saw something on social media earlier today. Well,

00:40:15.560 I participated in it. For those who follow me on Twitter or X as it is now, I had some clown 0.77

00:40:20.440 coming after me saying I was a settler, right? You know, I'm getting so sick and tired of that 0.74

00:40:24.960 settler crap, that settler colonial crap. And I retweeted with some words that I can't say on 1.00

00:40:31.100 this show because we do run on some cable channels. But I also said I'm not a settler. I was born in

00:40:35.440 Canada, cut it out. It's ridiculous, because it is ridiculous, and it's divisive, and it's stupid. 1.00

00:40:41.440 But either way, what got interesting for those who follow that type of social media, it went kind of 1.00

00:40:45.520 viral. His tweet at me, his ex at me, if you look at mine, Cory B. Morgan on X, Cory B. Morgan on

00:40:52.740 Twitter, you'll find it through there. It had, the last time I checked, over 350,000 impressions,

00:40:58.240 his tweet, and it had 100 likes. That means of

00:41:02.220 350,000 people who saw what this tweet put out there about us

00:41:06.240 being settlers, only 1 in 3,500 thought, yeah, you know, I agree with

00:41:10.320 you. And at that point, there were 1,200 people who took the time to

00:41:14.240 say, you're an idiot, and responded to them. It's called being ratioed on there. 1.00

00:41:18.480 But you see, the reason it makes me happy, that's a large sampling. 350,000

00:41:22.440 people is a lot of people. We hear that stupid 1.00

00:41:25.840 settler colonial language from academics. We hear it from politicians. We hear it from union leaders. 1.00

00:41:31.200 We hear it from activists. And it sometimes gives the people the impression that this is a widespread

00:41:36.240 point of view or that it's a reasonable one or it's large. It's not. It's only the view of the

00:41:41.740 extreme. And we've got to quit giving it credence. It's way out there. And it's wrong. It's right up

00:41:48.060 there with basically what this person was saying. Because what he was saying, what he said in his

00:41:52.120 tweet was that only everybody who isn't Métis, First Nations or Inuit, that's what he said,

00:41:57.360 they're all settlers, automatically, you're all settlers. It's racism. It's exactly what that is.

00:42:03.680 It's like anybody else saying, I got here first, go back where you came from. We don't accept that

00:42:08.440 from people when they say that to new Canadians, or even worse, when they say it to Canadians who

00:42:12.740 were born here, but they appear that they may be new Canadians. Yes, we're getting down to race

00:42:17.220 again, guys. We don't accept people saying go back where you came from in that case, because it is,

00:42:21.040 it's bigoted, it's wrong, but we accept it when it comes from these hammerheads calling people

00:42:27.320 settlers, even if they'd had three, four generations of family here. And how is that

00:42:31.780 helping our society? How is that helping them? But you see, it drives into, again, this was coming

00:42:36.680 from a First Nations person, that sense of victimhood. Everything and anything wrong in my 1.00

00:42:40.820 life is the settler's fault. It couldn't be me. Couldn't be that I didn't get out of bed in time 0.99

00:42:45.480 to go to work. Couldn't be that I didn't invest my money wisely. Look, the victim mentality holds

00:42:54.000 people down. People really have been victims of things a lot of times, absolutely. But when you

00:42:59.120 mire yourself in it, when you turn yourself into a chronic victim, there's a, Nico's been pulling

00:43:05.780 out, yeah, the tweet, look at that, you know, 350,000 views. But when you turn yourself into

00:43:10.840 that victim, you can't crawl out of it. You become a self-defeating person. And this settler stuff

00:43:17.000 is not helping anybody at all. I mean, let's look at, for an example, again, the Chinese. The

00:43:23.260 Chinese were treated horrifically in Canada, terribly, brought in for cheap labor to build a

00:43:29.760 railway, abused under terrible working conditions, separated from their families, paid next to

00:43:35.900 nothing. I mean, it was this close to being literal slave labor. And then when the railway was

00:43:40.160 done. They found themselves on the West Coast. They were abused. There were practical pogroms.

00:43:44.580 They were stuffed onto ships and deported. They were treated like crap. And there's been a lot 1.00

00:43:49.860 of apologies for that treatment from the government and things since then. But look at the Chinese 1.00

00:43:53.760 community today. Did they mire themselves in the victimhood because of that abuse? No.

00:43:58.300 They, in fact, got the best revenge they could by succeeding. The Asian community in Canada is doing 0.99

00:44:04.140 fantastic. If you look at statistically, if we're looking at ethnic breakdowns for high levels of

00:44:09.500 education, high levels of compensation, business ownership, all of those measures, the Chinese are

00:44:14.580 doing, you know, of generations in Canada doing fantastic because they didn't roll over themselves

00:44:20.160 and say we're victims and we're just going to piss and moan about it for the rest of our lives. They

00:44:24.140 got up and kept working and I really, really respect them for that. Likewise with Japanese 1.00

00:44:28.800 Canadians. If you go down to Southern Alberta, there's a really cool thing you'll see out there,

00:44:32.700 Southeast Alberta, lots of people with Japanese last names with an Asian appearance, yet they're

00:44:37.340 farmers and they talk with a southern Alberta prairie accent because they've been there for

00:44:42.180 generations but the reason they're down there by Tabor and Tilly and all those areas is because 0.60

00:44:47.720 there was a great big internment camp in World War II the Japanese were screwed we stole their

00:44:53.040 property or I won't say we I don't that's a term I should stop using when it comes to the government 0.88

00:44:57.080 at that time stole their property stuffed them in there and kept them in those camps till the end of

00:45:03.000 the war when the war was over they basically said okay you're all free now goodbye they didn't even

00:45:06.040 give them rides back to Vancouver where they took them from so they were basically walking around

00:45:09.140 the prairies so they started working sugar beet farms as laborers and worked their butts off

00:45:14.720 and since then the people the descendants of them are very strong community members have large farms

00:45:20.560 businesses a presence down there in southeast Alberta same thing they didn't mire themselves

00:45:24.960 in their victimhood they were very mistreated very wronged and there have been apology apologies for 0.98

00:45:29.980 it but they didn't leave themselves stuck there so when we take on this settler colonial crap 0.92

00:45:36.100 and we keep blaming anything and everything well we don't but some people do anything and everything 0.95

00:45:40.440 wrong in their lives with the settlers and with the colonials and we're seeing it of course when

00:45:43.400 it comes to israel too but that's a separate discussion altogether it's self-defeating and

00:45:47.820 it's just bringing everybody down and dividing us from each other it's not helping anybody

00:45:52.480 so let's cut it out either way i was very happy to see such a strong majority of people rejecting 0.99

00:45:58.020 this ding dong when he claimed that settler crap. People aren't taking it. Canadians are smarter 0.98

00:46:02.840 than these extremists give us credit for. And you know what? You know, Mr. Stanley saying everything's

00:46:09.020 racist today. Yeah, it feels like it. And that's why some people don't speak up. They fear being

00:46:11.960 labeled with that because it's a terrible thing to be labeled with. But when it comes to this

00:46:15.460 settler colonial stuff, speak up, push back, tell them to get stuffed. The majority is on your side. 0.99

00:46:20.880 All right. That's all the time I've got today, guys. Thank you for coming in today. Even if I

00:46:25.700 worked up all you guys and your conspiracy things email me if you're mad about it we can chat about

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00:46:39.040 watch for those top stories there's a lot of stuff developing and unfolding as we speak right now so

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Western Standard - November 23, 2023

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