Comedian Ben Bankas gets cancelled by the ‘Gay Eagle’
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Summary
Ben Bankus is a Canadian comedian originally from Toronto. He lives in Austin, Texas now, but he s been touring his way through Canada. He came through Calgary just this weekend, and a bunch of the staff at the Western Standard Newsroom went down to see him. And boy did he disappoint.
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G'day, I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard.
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Ben Bankus is a Canadian comedian, originally from Toronto.
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You wouldn't know that by the kind of jokes he tells, but he lives in Austin, Texas now.
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I like that you have CBC going in the background.
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that's true yeah do they watch you guys uh yeah yeah we uh we've gotten um it's funny they uh
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every they kind of stopped for the last maybe two years but uh i declared um everything they do is
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public property so when they take a photo like we can use it on our stuff because i paid for it as
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a taxpayer and every once in a while they'd send uh some dipshit lawyer would send me something
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saying that's our copyright and i'd say uh yeah you owe me money and well so uh they they watch
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us and they like you know they'll harass from time to time but uh yeah they just wish that they there
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was no that you didn't exist though which is crazy right yeah well thankfully they pretty much don't
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exist i mean they're black hole taxpayers money but no one's really watching them yeah and the
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old people in the seniors homes that they that's about it yeah you know they switch between matlock
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on air, you know, me and colleagues would send each
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other reels, some of your spicier content,
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saw you were coming to concrete, and I was like,
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taking some of the newsroom down uh so we we booked and we booked uh if your show with the
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gray eagle um like day went on sale and then um well that that didn't happen uh got canceled um
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you ended up playing instead of one big show agree eagle you did uh how many shows are you
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doing in calgary so uh we're doing like four or something five six seven so seven stand-up shows
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and then we added a live podcast show so eight shows total is that your uber eats thing you do
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yeah we yeah we order we order uber eats and we bring the uber eats people on stage and then we
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surround that spectacle with uh with some other um fun surprises and events and guests but it's
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look i i the punishment that the gray eagle casino gave me is uh more work more money so
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So, you know, they they miscalculated and it's clearly because of a look, I get that you're making a joke about indigenous people.
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They're on indigenous. You can ask the question.
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Well, you you made a joke. I don't know if it's done on that day, but you posted it on your social media.
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It was a residential schools joke. You know, like I wish it was a school for that.
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Back from Winnipeg, they have like a, it's like the, it's like an indigenous zombie apocalypse.
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I was thinking, okay, it'd be nice if there's, you know, some sort of school we could send them to.
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say what you want about the residential schools
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but they did, you know, it was nice architecture
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if you wanted to go to a residential school now in 2025
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but you know, you've got to be able to laugh at yourself
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it is an offense, you do, I don't think you say anything
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that's not offensive, that's why it's good comedy
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but um uh why did you put it out on uh we have a policy in the office people ask do we get
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national truth and reconciliation day off i have i have a policy you can ask any one of
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you know a producer here uh if if my employees send me a picture of themselves in tofino on a
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surfboard with that day's newspaper they get the day off no one's taken me up on it yet but you
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know national truth and reconciliation that's what trudeau did or something yeah the very first one
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he declared it a holiday that i was surfing on that holiday um why'd you post it that day i mean
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that's that's really you know i mean like why not i mean it's a free country is a holiday mean that
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there's a suspension of free speech and there's a suspension of you know don't make fun of the
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thing that is most relevant on the day that it's most relevant you got to make fun of it
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way off in some other time of the year when nobody will ever see it nobody else then nobody
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will laugh at it it's the canadian mentality of well you know you could have picked another day
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it's like no actually i picked the perfect day it's like why would you make a joke about christmas
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on christmas why would you make a joke about hanukkah on hanukkah why would you because that's
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when it's happening and uh in a free country you should be able to make jokes and critique things
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and you know people want to say some people are like well he doesn't mean it so it's a joke and
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other people he means it it's like it really shouldn't matter whether it's really nobody's
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business what i mean it's the content it's entertainment and people laugh at it and that's
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the most important part the reason i'm doing it is because i want people to laugh at it and i want
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people to at the end of the day not take things so seriously because that's good for society it's
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good for society to not take things so literally and seriously where you see a joke about a day
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that you think is special and that enrages you to the point where you're sending you know death
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threats like I got death threats and which is fine like you know I'm not going to be sit here
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and whine about it and be like I'm a victim but I'm just saying that you know um look it's
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it's funny everybody got more likes and shares and um and positive comments by you know tenfold
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or no way more than that than any death threats or negative comments or even the complaint emails
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that went out to gray eagle was like one or two so yeah what are you gonna do yeah you know uh
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do i get the gray eagle will be offended or sue tina who owns it yeah no of course it's
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intentionally offensive which is you know what a lot of comedy is um but i mean you know cancelling
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it shows a thin skin that you can't take the joke you make it you almost kind of prove the point of
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the joke when uh when you do that you know if you know people make a joke about albertans we don't
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uh do the equivalent of quebec and pass some unanimous resolution in the national assembly
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you got to show you can roll with the punches take the joke and i i don't think it looked very
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good on green eagle saying you're not allowed to joke about us the national cbc the national
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what are they a broadcaster i don't know what they are they they are you're telling me that
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their comedy wing has doesn't make fun of white people but that's okay of course because they're
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the according to liberals they're the number one according to conservatives we're all equal but
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According to liberals, whites are number one, and then there's some hierarchy where everybody can make fun of white people because they're on the top, but nobody can make fun of any of the other groups because they're below whites.
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And I don't think that's fair to other groups, to be honest.
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I think all groups should be made fun of equally because we should all look at each other as, hey, we're equal, and we are in the same country.
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the whole thing about equity and like where's the starting point and like well his starting point
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was here and yours was here so you because you have this much money now you need to give him
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money so it's all bullshit sorry i don't know if i can swear on here you know uh it's all
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bombs where i think we're good okay uh but um it's bs because that is demoralizing to people
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who come to this country immigrants that they go oh nobody makes fun of me they can't talk about me
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because then they feel bad for me because i'm below them and i don't have the same opportunities
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as them and that's what creates disenfranchisement in my opinion not making fun of each other and
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having discussions and yeah okay some people hey how could you say that to him another guy from
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that same group is like actually i thought it was funny and i don't give a shit uh and uh that's
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that's what you know i'm not necessarily trying to do that but i'm aware of what you know and
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again if the maybe i'm wrong and maybe it is making everything worse and maybe my comedy is
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destroying people's lives and and you know what so be it because art doesn't always have to make
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the world a better place let's be honest i i'd feel left out if people couldn't make fun of white
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people like i like it for sure i hear you know dave chappelle ripple you know or whoever uh i i
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would feel excluded if i belong to a group and no one's allowed to make fun of me and it's like
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you know especially if it's good nature and maybe maybe there is a point to it i mean there's a
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point to the you know comedy is sometimes you're making a point sometimes there is no point sometimes
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it is just a laugh but sometimes it's it's a layered laugh because you're exposing kind of a
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deeper truth by showing the absurd for everyone to see um but you know we're all out of our minds
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too that people are judging people who are you know we've been doing this for 14 years
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and started you know i've done comedy in places that are woke you know a million times that's how
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i mean before woke that there wasn't really woke but one of the places we used to do comedy was
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like a was like a vapor lounge in in the gay area and there was like it was filled with gay
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um aids patients that would uh were like dying but they've got they had medical weed licenses
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before legalization and all that and it was and they were allowed to smoke and for their diseases
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and stuff that seems like a great place to do a show and that was where it was called village
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vapor lounge in toronto and and there was this guy named rudiger there and he was i don't know
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what his real name was but he was called rutiger and he would just he was this bald gay aids
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patient that was just ruthless like you'd go on stage and he would he would call you
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you know a f you know the other f word the other f word he'd call you whatever he said he'd say the
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n word he would he would and he was maybe he was he wasn't black but he wasn't like fully white but
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he was gay and but it was hilarious and and there was just no and now if that guy that guy doesn't
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exist anymore those that that kind of vulgarity and you know rudeness is somebody sometimes it's
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funny to be rude and this is what people don't who get mad at my comedy they go how could he say
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that it's like well because people are laughing if they weren't laughing i wouldn't say it
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I'm trying to it's the it's comedy at the end of the day um have you ever heard brocket 99
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no it's an alberta thing okay all right I I was thinking uh and without getting too much into it
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uh you're gonna need to go onto youtube and find this thing we came out the 80s for social media
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but we kind of became this underground thing some guy uh like broken I think to a radio station I
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don't think I'm not telling this wrong you'd like it was like in Lethbridge on the near the
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rocket reserve and uh it he had like kind of an hour and a half or something kind of fake radio
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program with fake commercials and it was kind of it was like you know rocket 99 rock on the
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reservation you ask any albertan or they're gonna know what that is and it kind of went viral with
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cassette tapes people would copy these cassette tapes before you could send them like a you know
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some you know rumble link and um it was a lot of the same kind of thing and there was a lot of
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knows who he is, but it's not that proven who he was, but
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um you know do you did you get that much after you know uh you know great eagle freaks out and
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stuff did you have any uh you know like native people reach out to you be like actually no that
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was bullshits be playing or yeah no point there was there was like way more native people messaging
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me with like death threats and um basically telling me that you know how dare you do this
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and if you ever, you know, death threats and then almost death threats
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And then I had, like, two or three that were, like, I thought it was funny.
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But the majority were very outraged and, like, whatever,
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and you need to be canceled from all – like, and it's –
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if you have nothing better going on in your day than to be mad at a Facebook reel
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at 1 p.m. on a, you know, Tuesday afternoon, like, you have lost your mind.
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essentially. And, you know, you can blame me, but it's like, that's my job. I'm putting out
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content. You can react to it however you want. And I understand that the consequences of, you know,
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putting out something that people are going to react a certain way. But it's like, at the end
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of the day, it's their loss for reacting that way. It's not my loss. Because really, it just
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amplifies what's going on. The video gets shared a ton. Yeah, a lot of people are mad. And then
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other people, including Indigenous people, but a lot of Native people are probably afraid to say,
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hey i think it's funny and who gives a shit and you know um so yeah i i i don't blame the people
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who are getting really mad they're obviously in bad places in their lives you know it's it's but
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the the bigger reason is why are they in bad places in their lives why is canada in such a
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bad place so many people are so depressed um and and a lot of those people choose instead of going
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to work instead of creating a business and building something and and growing and trying
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to reach for the stars they decide that they're going to go protest every day of the week and
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be an online protester an online warrior bs and that that's and then and then they blame everybody
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else and it's like guys even even the worst countries in the world have people who are
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successful out of them so we're not that bad you can you can you can you can pull yourself up from
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your bootstraps you don't need the government to help you and if you do i mean if you look if you
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have a disability all these you know i get it but like if you're just an able-bodied person that's
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even just a high school education maybe even not even a high school education you could probably
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complaining, what are the chances that Ben actually
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it you know you're fairly early on kind of calling out a lot of the absurdity of things uh you know
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your routine now is you know pretty heavy on immigration and cultural issues um you know
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routines change over time you said you've been doing this for 14 years you know you can't be
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doing the same routine for 14 years but people do well okay you can't do it and be successful
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yeah no yeah that's that's true you know everyone's got kind of the things to kind of come back to but
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You know, so I wouldn't say why, you know, of course it has changed.
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If I'm going to talk about maybe, you know, why it's changed and you're able to lean so heavily into such a,
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well, it wasn't until very recently such a taboo topic, especially in Canada.
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Like, the immigration debate wasn't, we didn't really have one until like two, three years ago.
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The only people who were really angry about it were kind of relegated to the cranky margins.
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now it's like you know i was in the club saturday and you know people
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what are you gonna say say it i mean you called everyone a racist that they cheered
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because it was funny people are um you know people are kind of just so like something's
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changed there's been a vibe shift um you know the immigration debate's been a thing in europe
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for a long time it's been a thing in the united states for a long time it has not been a thing
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in canada until extremely recently um and you you were saying shit that a white guy could not say
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on stage two years ago and not get canceled even from a pretty open place or at least not be
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successful doing it like what's changed i mean i was saying similar stuff three years ago i just
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um you know i i first of all i i mean i don't i'm not racist like i don't where's the camera
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i am i'm something i don't know what it is but it's it's maybe i'm culturist i think i'm
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culturist i don't know when people are like you know like i people i don't i don't really care
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what you're like i don't see skin color and immediately judge someone but i do see an outfit
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and immediately judge someone just you know what i'm saying like you could be any skin color if
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you're wearing your outfit i'm pretty i'm not worried uh i just went to oktoberfest like a
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week ago you hit you you see like a white guy wearing lederhosen you could judge him and say
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he's drunk like that and that's a fair judgment it's just i judge people on the outfits and uh
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and the you know also if you're trying to speak english and if i if i pass like an immigrant
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family and i can hear them talking to their kids in english even if it sounds not perfect that kind
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of like fills me with pride of like they're trying and and i and that's great i don't i'm not you
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know it's like when a fat guy goes to the gym you know you're like look he's he's working on it
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but it's it's when it just becomes um like certain things and i don't know tell me if i'm wrong and
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But, like, checking into Air Canada and the people working there start talking to each other behind the desk in another language that I don't understand.
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But if it was Air India and they were speaking that language, I don't know what language they speak.
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like let them do and have their complete own societies within canada i think people that
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bothers people um and i don't think it's all of them and i also don't think it's their fault
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it's it's actually not the immigrants fault it's not the official government policy it's not our
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fault it's not the indigenous people's fault like for their issues all of the issues of the
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government and the government's the one over extending the immigration system and they know
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they're doing this and they're but like the immigrants are standing here and we're going
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what the hell is this guy doing here and they're like i don't know what i'm doing here i was brought
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here basically by canada which is terrifying yeah and that's why it's so the question is why is it
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okay a little bit more because people are a little more fed up i mean of course trump is in office
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now when biden was in office maybe it was harder to get away with stuff but i was still putting
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out specials talking about all this stuff and that's how i built my following and continue to
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build it but at the end of the day like i'm not trying to do anything other than give people some
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relief to the things that i that bother me because people will be like you you are you catering to
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your crowd because you it's like no i'm i'm looking at my phone going jeez and then i write
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something down and then i say it to them they go i saw the same thing i was that's how i felt today
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they're doing that and they're losing money and they've realized this and
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that are the most well-known right now are not necessarily the,
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um um you know again i like the place actually pretty well run uh i generally like going to
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events there but uh you know i thought it looked pretty thin skinned to do um where are you more
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likely you know yuck yucks uh i don't think they've got a reputation for canceling i think
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they like they're considered pretty solid like you could be pretty damn defensive at a yuck yucks
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but uh bigger venues you know because they tend to be you know like where we were
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southeast corner downtown here um where are you most likely to get canceled when you book a place
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or do you actually not normally just right get a campaign no your your book had been bank as he's
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gonna say some shit they already know that first well that's the issue is that the the
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you know it's it's more of i mean the so the question is where do i what am i worried about
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into the wrist? Like their book had been bankers, they
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If you consider reserves to be an order of government,
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actually one of the much more commercially successful
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been successful in some of the business dealings.
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other than you know come on guys what are you doing what are you we're trying to do business
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or we're not and if there's a if that should be written in the contract do not make fun of
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indigenous don't post any indigenous clips don't make don't mention us um
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they you know i'm gonna get i i don't get canceled that much and it becomes a cost benefit thing
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where if a venue knows hey we're gonna sell this out or it's all right which they were all we were
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almost we were on track to sell out like we would have sold out yeah and if they're going to sell
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out then the venue gets a couple two complaints they're going to be like who cares let's just do
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it but if they're government funded and they're incentivized by them or something and there's
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some sort of pressure um you know but at the end of the day it's quasi government it wasn't like
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equipment of like a i'm not saying them i'm not saying them i'm saying i'm saying any venue that's
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owned or funded by the government has the potential to do that if it's a private venue
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and they don't care then it won't happen um but it you know if it does then it's just
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just we end up doing a million shows at yuck yucks making more money and so it's
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you know it's it's up to them do you want to cancel blow me up everybody wants a ticket now
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you can make no money from this at all and then i make more than i was going to make here because
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now i'm um you know it you know it's when it's a bigger venue there's a different you know it's
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expensive right to pay all the the union workers to to wander around and find people seats with a
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little tiny flashlight it's really they i'm serious though they are all all the you all the people who
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work at the venues in canada i'm not talking about casinos i'm talking about like theater halls and
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stuff like that yeah they're their unit yeah so it's you actually make more money if you do it in
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a smaller venue more it you know so it's 2300 people divided by 230 um is that the right math
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maybe 200 you know what i'm saying yeah right the size the size of yuck yucks yeah 230 cost you
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got a you know more hotels you're spending a couple days in calgary yeah i thought about
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no that's true that is true but i mean it's still not even it takes more time to do a bunch of
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smaller shows it's more time the biggest loss is that from the gray eagle is that i got less time
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with my family you know yeah especially around halloween i want to be hanging out with my kids
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and i don't you know you're great i'm happy i'm here but uh you know i so that they took that for
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me but they also were daddy's gonna be buying some uh better christmas presents uh you live
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in austin is it just a nice warmer place to go or uh like how you're you're toronto boy originally
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um how come you live down in austin um the comedy scene really a lot of the scene moved there
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during covid i went to during covid and can't when it was locked down i went to austin
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just to see what was going on and it was everything was open comedy clubs were all open
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everybody was having a good time everybody's partying yeah you know it got a little sick
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but uh i think i got a couple fevers but nothing you know nothing a couple ivermectins couldn't
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handle you know um so but i went there and then for a week in 2020 just to check it out and then
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i came back here and it was like you know excited to keep building my my stuff here
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and then i did this and then i went there for a few months uh and at that point like rogan had
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already moved there mothership comedy mothership was being built a lot of comics had started moving
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there and the vulcan vulcan gas company is another comedy venue it's also a music venue and dance
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venue but that's where they were doing kill tony for the longest time in austin so of course tony
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hinchcock moved there so i was you know it's it's kind of the place to be for comedy it really is
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the comedy mothership is the best comedy club for to be it to be your home club is like it's great
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you know mothership and vulcan are two different things so before mothership was built the vulcan
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was where rogan did his shows where tony did his shows and they had a lot of big headliners coming
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through they still do but then mothership opened and now both clubs work you know or
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towards the end, you asked, has anyone ever seen
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he says, I've seen it, he asked where he's from,
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the best airports because it's in the middle of everything.
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la this way it's almost even distance between the two and then if you know i'm flying all over the
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states it's nice to be in the middle all right so well uh during covid you know you you took it on
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uh i mean there was always kind of a a vocal dissident group against it you know that's kind
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of how you know that's kind of when we came of age as a publication taking on mainstream narrative
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on you know or the government's narrative on covid um you know you were taking that down but
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a way to... I don't know how to put this, but what do you think
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that you know you might be kind of you know battering the gates of in two years probably
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digital id and social credit systems that they want to implement and the bills these new bill
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c8 and c9 and in canada and the u.s not so much but the bigger fear is so what there's only three
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years left of trump two years left almost two and a half so once that if if the republicans don't
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stay in you're gonna see in my opinion i could be wrong but i think the democrats would get in and
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they would push for digital id in the u.s and social credit systems in the u.s similar to what
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they have in the uk and then if they do that canada will 100 do that and it will further
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restrict free speech and though that's kind of the i think that's kind of the covet of tomorrow
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the covet of right now is the uh it's not really even massive i mean it's it's unfettered
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immigration the fact that it's people coming i made a joke about it but i'll tell it that
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um you know it used to be you'd get a cab driver you'd be like what did you do in your old old
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country they'd be like uh i was a doctor i was a lawyer i was an engineer now you get in an uber
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you go what did you do in india and the guy goes uber he's like oh you're overqualified for this
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stuff yeah so but the point is that and and is that ruthless is that well who you know the left
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could say well why you know we're helping people who are underprivileged that don't have that type
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of education so that what that's no are we we should be trying to make the country better
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and i saw this video and i'm sure you've seen it with the the glass marble like the marble video
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where the guy talks about how many people there are in the world yeah and like how many a million
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each marble contains a million people and there's like 750 million marbles or whatever i don't know
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whatever but he pulls it out and he's like here's a million people this is our immigration every
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year and he's shown with all the other marbles like we're not helping plus there's and every
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year there's these these marbles are growing by whatever crazy amount right because they're
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having tons of kids over in the countries that we're bringing people from so um he basically
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explains it it's impossible like we can't we even if we did the max immigration forever we'd never
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be able to help the majority of people ever so if with that being said what's the why we should just
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be making our countries as good as possible because at the end of the day the stronger the
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western countries are and the richer the western countries are and the more educated the western
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countries are the more we can help the people who are in those countries without actually bringing
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them here which isn't necessarily going to help them no it's potentially going to ruin their lives
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and make them come here and spend their whole life doing uber and or not even be able to afford to
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live here and have to go back and that's that's worse than us focusing on being a great nation
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that can help developing countries properly not right now we're doing all the weird you know
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two seven million dollars for you know trans nigerian farmers that you know or what you know
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all those things that we're doing that are like
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if you're listening from Canada I have a huge Canadian tour
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Houston, Texas, Pottstown, Pennsylvania, Atlantic City, New Jersey, New York City,
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And after that, I'm going back to New York and going to D.C., Washington, D.C.,
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and then we're going to be announcing a whole bunch of new shows.
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know i'm doing another casino in uh in america you don't learn you don't learn in america though
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so it's uh it's cool it's called parks and it's it's near philadelphia so come out to that that's
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i think that's on my site also and i just put out a comedy special it's called invasion it's on
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youtube youtube.com slash ben bank is comedy or go to ben bank is.com and click the specials link
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or ben banks.com slash specials and my podcast bank is podcast is out every week for free on
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show in town. I hope you come back to Calgary soon.
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until you're back, and good luck with the rest of your tour.
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go into a show, I brought a bunch of the Western Standard Newsroom
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thank you very much for joining us today, God bless