Western Standard - Consultation has broken Canada

00:00:00.000 Good day.

00:00:29.560 welcome to the cory morgan show back in our new background studio from the global energy show last

00:00:37.000 week on the floor getting kind of closer to normal now i guess uh lots to cover today lots going on

00:00:43.080 the news things in the independence front things internationally you name it it's all over i'm

00:00:47.320 gonna have michelle sterling on a little while she was with friends of science for a long time

00:00:51.880 it also has been very prolific on a number of issues and we're gonna talk yeah some first

00:00:56.280 nation stuff i'm always covering that she's got more to speak of be sure this is live guys use the

00:01:03.480 comment scroll there put your questions comments ideas notions towards me i appreciate it it keeps

00:01:09.480 things rolling and uh you know also if you have some discussions with each other just make sure

00:01:14.200 to keep it a little civil with each other we've had a lot of uh non-civil stuff going on lately

00:01:19.400 with some stuff in politics and maybe it's time to ramp things down and get a little more rational

00:01:24.280 with things but either way we can rant and rave without uh being bound by too much civility so

00:01:29.760 i'm going to go on on the latest thing you can catch this story in the western standard from

00:01:33.240 last week it just still floored me so i mean you might student not even be able to erect a garden

00:01:39.100 shed in your backyard without getting consent of indigenous people perhaps uh hundreds of

00:01:44.000 kilometers away and i mean does that sound ridiculous well it's no less absurd than any

00:01:48.880 other consultation requirements imposed by activist judge recently. I mean, in BC, it's

00:01:54.060 illegal to enter certain provincial parks at certain times of the year if you're the wrong

00:01:57.480 race. Nothing's off the table now. Democracy itself is now secondary to Indigenous consultation. 0.93

00:02:04.320 It doesn't matter if hundreds of thousands of citizens call for a referendum on an issue, 0.87

00:02:08.040 they're not allowed to even ask the questions in a democratic exercise without somehow gaining

00:02:12.720 unanimous consent from Indigenous chiefs. And I say unanimous because it appears that if even a few

00:02:18.680 complain about the Democratic vote, as was the case with Alberta's proposed referendum,

00:02:23.080 a Liberal-appointed judge will quickly shut down the process, despite the efforts of hundreds of

00:02:27.440 thousands of citizens, just due to the complaints of a handful. It was the chiefs, not the Indigenous

00:02:32.820 people at large who took issue with allowing Albertans to vote on an issue. And who's a chief

00:02:37.900 anyway? An activist judge in BC just shut down a $1.5 billion gold mining project due to a

00:02:45.080 complaint from a self-appointed hereditary chief who only represents a few dozen people at best. 0.66

00:02:50.780 One doesn't need to be elected by indigenous people as a representative. One doesn't need to 1.00

00:02:54.480 have an actual historic claim or right to any land. One only needs to claim they're a hereditary 0.72

00:02:59.840 chief of a fictional band and they're bestowed with blanket veto authority over any project.

00:03:06.000 Not enough people are covering this, guys, and what this means. The alleged nation that objected

00:03:10.740 to the province isn't recognized by governments on any level. So how on earth is a company

00:03:15.940 or government supposed to identify, find, and consult adequately with these groups as they

00:03:20.720 spawn like dandelions in spring? The answer is that they can't. It really has become impossible

00:03:26.000 to reach the invisible bar of consultation required to do anything of significance in Canada.

00:03:31.240 It's not that the consultation hasn't been done. There's a whole sub-industry worth billions of

00:03:35.780 dollars that's developed over the years specializing in consultation. Companies are willing to meet

00:03:39.940 with every Indigenous person within 200 miles of a project and have spent enough consultation over

00:03:45.440 the years to have done so. The problem, though, is as long as one Indigenous person remains 1.00

00:03:49.280 unsatisfied, an activist judge is going to say there wasn't enough consultation and they will

00:03:53.380 shut things down. Reminder, Section 35 of the Canadian Constitution doesn't call for constitution.

00:03:59.220 It sure as hell doesn't call for consent from Indigenous people. The duty to consult was read

00:04:04.420 into the Constitution in 2004 by Supreme Court justices. And even then, the judges made it clear

00:04:09.780 this didn't offer veto authority to Indigenous bands. Unfortunately, when judges refuse to

00:04:14.860 recognize what the bar for adequate consultation is, the duty to consult has become a de facto

00:04:21.760 veto authority. Not only for Indigenous bands, but for small groups that identify now as bands

00:04:27.280 under the leadership of self-appointed hereditary chiefs. No government nor court has the balls to 0.92

00:04:33.680 finally say enough is enough and push back against this creeping regulatory mire, and it hasn't 0.86

00:04:38.320 served anybody. No matter how much they're indulged, these Indigenous activists and chiefs

00:04:42.780 are only becoming more indignant, more belligerent. Pandering to their insatiable appetite for 1.00

00:04:47.980 pursuing authority over all things has only made them hungrier. Canada's already lost a trillion

00:04:52.560 dollars in potential investment over the last decade due to the terrible regulatory environment

00:04:57.000 it's under. This trend is only going to become worse as layer after layer of consultation

00:05:01.220 requirements are dumped on governments and companies by appointed judges. Who in their

00:05:05.340 right minds going to invest in a major project in Canada right now when the rug can be pulled out

00:05:09.800 at any moment due to a complaint from a self-styled chief along with a ruling by a judge who wants to

00:05:14.980 make their mark on the judicial system. Getting major projects completed has gone from difficult

00:05:20.500 to impossible in Canada. The blame lands on the governments and the justices who are too cowardly 0.95

00:05:25.760 to do what's right and just finally say no to Indigenous activists for a change. This will do 0.98

00:05:31.880 nothing for that other impossible goal set for reconciliation. Canadians have accepted that some

00:05:38.380 poor practices were done in past centuries, but they're becoming exhausted with being told to

00:05:43.520 apologize for it and endlessly being forced to compensate the descendants of the descendants of

00:05:48.420 the aggrieved as the economy falters further due to these consultation requirements. As democracy

00:05:54.320 is denied by consultation requirements and as people could lose their property due to rulings

00:05:59.400 from activist judges in bc the attitudes of canadians is going to change and it's not going

00:06:03.960 to be for the better guys with regards to indigenous relations the only question is

00:06:07.560 how bad is it going to have to get before the legislature legislators find the courage to do

00:06:11.980 what must be done and i'm afraid it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better all right

00:06:16.440 well that's kind of what's got me starting today anyways let's check in and see what else is going

00:06:19.680 on with our news editor dave nailer how's it going it's going well how are you i'm all right

00:06:23.420 You got the football fever?

00:06:25.320 Nah, I don't watch that stuff.

00:06:27.720 England today at 2 p.m.

00:06:29.860 I envy your enjoyment of it.

00:06:31.900 Do you realize that right now, sitting in here with you,

00:06:34.440 I am missing Portugal versus the Democratic Republic of Congo?

00:06:38.480 Good heavens, you really have sacrificed for my show.

00:06:40.620 Well, thank you. 0.89

00:06:41.260 Well, you know, just at halftime, the Congo scored a goal,

00:06:44.980 and it was their first goal they've ever scored in the World Cup.

00:06:47.360 There was, I got to admit, there was another underdog story

00:06:50.360 just the other day where they came to a 0-0.

00:06:52.520 uh cape verde yes only 600 000 people there but they managed to tie one of the greatest teams in

00:06:57.960 the world span so but how many hours to come up with zero zero how do you stay away 90 minutes

00:07:05.080 but that was an entertaining game okay because you were cheering for the underdogs and every

00:07:09.240 time they made a diving play you know you got excited well i i understand appreciate that

00:07:13.880 underdog you know uh mentality and watching those things it's just a such a low-scoring game i mean

00:07:19.000 I mean, I know there's basketball where that gets boring

00:07:20.700 because they're scoring every five seconds or so.

00:07:22.820 You can't make the nets much bigger, can you?

00:07:24.700 No, you wouldn't think.

00:07:26.920 I'm happy for all of those who enjoy it, though.

00:07:28.880 You know what?

00:07:29.600 It's the greatest time when you've got four matches a day.

00:07:33.760 And it's great.

00:07:34.680 And you see streets of Toronto alive, streets of Vancouver.

00:07:38.180 There's actually people out downtown Vancouver at 9 o'clock at night now.

00:07:42.440 All the tourists and whatnot that are stepping over the dead people.

00:07:47.880 But there you go.

00:07:49.000 anyway so i got so much news going on uh why don't we start with a soccer story a football

00:07:54.300 sure let's go there you know we were just sort of joking about the tragedy of drugs and overdoses in

00:08:01.180 in uh in vancouver bad bad batches of fentanyl and whatnot so fifa who organizes the world cup

00:08:08.740 they they really don't want tourists dying uh so they put out a how-to guide on how to use

00:08:15.480 illegal drugs if you're visiting

00:08:17.380 Vancouver. Well, I mean, it's true. If you're

00:08:19.380 going to visit the, you know, east side

00:08:21.340 of Vancouver, I mean, if you really want to experience

00:08:23.520 the city, you should try a little fentanyl or meth

00:08:25.380 or something. Yeah, scary.

00:08:29.000 Treaty

00:08:29.440 Chiefs issued

00:08:31.460 a call today for the

00:08:33.060 RCMP to investigate Daniel Smith

00:08:35.220 for treason. Yes.

00:08:37.300 Is treason still a firing squad

00:08:39.200 offense in Canada? I don't think so, but it's 0.96

00:08:41.260 got some pretty serious penalties as far as Canadian

00:08:43.200 law goes. Personally, I think

00:08:45.320 chiefs are insane yes a little bit uh chances of the rcmp even launching that investigation is

00:08:51.320 is slim to none uh we've got a story that a lot of the mainstream media is not covering

00:08:57.240 and it's a report on the british rape gangs this was a report done several hundred pages on on the

00:09:04.120 problems with with immigrant mainly pakistani rape gangs throughout england a lot in northern

00:09:09.720 a lot in Northern England, they found that 250,000 white girls had been raped. And the government, 0.85

00:09:16.760 I mean, people have been caught and they've been sent, you know, sent to jail. But the government

00:09:22.120 has remained silent on it. And, you know, nobody's getting deported. And no, there's not a single

00:09:28.280 mainstream British media outlet that has covered this report yet. You know, the citizens on the

00:09:33.080 ground are aware of this. There's going to be more riots. Absolutely, the citizens are aware of it.

00:09:38.120 i think that's probably what the media is concerned about is they don't want to stoke

00:09:42.440 you know they don't want to poke the bear and they don't want to be responsible for the no

00:09:46.200 but putting it off only makes it worse you gotta have that discussion uh the uh federal government

00:09:53.320 report on maid is coming out later on today we've got some details at the moment that

00:09:58.280 they are going to recommend that maid is not extended to mentally ill people but there are

00:10:04.040 a couple of senators that will be apparently be issuing a scathing dissenting report that they

00:10:08.760 should be so not sure what their rationale is uh our friends at second street have got a really

00:10:16.920 interesting story out today they're looking at um problem visitors with the health care system

00:10:23.800 incredibly 26 000 albertans last year visited a doctor more than 50 times 26 000 50 times

00:10:34.040 9,300 Albertans visited a doctor 100 times last year.

00:10:39.660 So you've got a very small number of patients taking up a lot of doctor time.

00:10:46.040 Meanwhile, people can't get a doctor themselves.

00:10:49.780 I'm glad 2nd Street, you know, Colin there has been doing great work poking into those things everybody's scared to talk about.

00:10:56.200 I mean, knee inefficiencies in this.

00:10:57.440 I'm sure there's some people with chronic conditions that need to see a doctor that often.

00:11:00.720 But we know there's going to be some hypochondriacs or lonely people or whatever else that are just taking advantage of the system.

00:11:06.940 Exactly.

00:11:08.220 Okay, so those are some of the stories we've got up.

00:11:10.160 Talk quickly about some of the stories that are coming.

00:11:13.300 Daniel Smith holding a press conference at 2 p.m.

00:11:17.100 Really, really bad timing because it's just at the kickoff of the England game.

00:11:21.280 So I've already sent her a nasty note.

00:11:23.740 they're going to be announcing

00:11:26.060 our legislature reporter

00:11:28.260 Will Vassar crunched the math

00:11:30.240 last weekend and we will be getting

00:11:32.160 the fuel tax savings

00:11:33.820 so I think that's 12 or 13 cents

00:11:36.240 and there is some rumblings that

00:11:38.100 we've made so much money in the last

00:11:40.200 couple of months with the Iran war that

00:11:42.020 maybe she's going to send out a check to 0.80

00:11:44.100 individual Albertans

00:11:45.320 we used to have Ralph Bucks but

00:11:47.740 this could be Danny Bucks

00:11:49.000 well it's amazing how fast our money comes back to us

00:11:51.800 when the party in Paris slips a little in the polls.

00:11:54.460 Exactly. Isn't that funny?

00:11:56.000 But it looks like we could be turning around

00:11:57.960 a potential $8 billion deficit into a $9 billion surplus.

00:12:02.700 So there you go.

00:12:05.240 We've got an exclusive story from our Leah Mushet

00:12:08.980 that's going to be going up on a Calgary teacher

00:12:11.740 who was forced by her school to visit Hindu temples

00:12:17.240 and seek religious places in order to, I guess,

00:12:23.220 understand where their children, their students are coming from.

00:12:27.320 Some kids, apparently, or this school has more than 50% immigrant population.

00:12:36.100 So they're told that you can't wish them a Merry Christmas

00:12:39.180 or anything like that, but you can say Happy Eid.

00:12:43.000 And I guess they're being forced to tour these places 1.00

00:12:45.760 to see how the other half prays. 1.00

00:12:49.900 No visiting churches. 0.92

00:12:52.060 No.

00:12:52.620 Just temples and... 1.00

00:12:54.100 Synagogues at least. 0.75

00:12:55.460 No, no synagogues. 1.00

00:12:56.580 No, no, no, just Southeast Asian stuff.

00:13:01.960 And a story you're familiar with, Corey, Sundry.

00:13:05.800 Earlier this week, the Sundry Rodeo Parade was canceled.

00:13:11.660 Float wanted to go in it. 0.84

00:13:14.060 That was supporting independence.

00:13:15.760 and there was all sorts of rg bargy and eventually they just canceled the whole thing well that is

00:13:20.880 uh you're taking one of rick's terms no i gave rick that term i taught rick everything he knows

00:13:27.680 uh i lost my train of thought sorry about that um saturday yes a whole group of independence

00:13:33.920 people they're start they're going to hold their own rally they're going to get in their pickup

00:13:38.000 trucks and wave flags and uh take over downtown uh sundry and have their own parade so that's

00:13:44.800 It's going to be some fun.

00:13:45.940 It's going to be a lively weekend out in Sundry.

00:13:47.900 You the parade marshal?

00:13:49.060 Oh, no, I'm not going.

00:13:50.200 I got things I have to do that day, but it'll be, you know, if I could, I would go.

00:13:55.340 It'd be very interesting.

00:13:56.300 It's going to be a fun afternoon.

00:13:58.180 So we'll be, our Dave Winnick will be on the scene on Saturday.

00:14:01.780 So tune in for his reports.

00:14:03.860 Right on.

00:14:04.340 Well, it's a beautiful time to get out to the foothills in Sundry anyway.

00:14:06.980 It's not raining.

00:14:08.180 It's snowing.

00:14:09.120 We'll see.

00:14:09.600 It was a chilly autumn morning today.

00:14:11.640 It was.

00:14:12.420 Well, we'll get there.

00:14:13.540 We'll get there eventually.

00:14:14.320 all right well thank you i'll let you back to catch up on your your football uh thank you i'm

00:14:18.440 dying to see how the congos one foot out the door so let's do it thanks for the update all right

00:14:24.680 guys that is our news editor dave naylor when he's not watching football he is covering all sorts of

00:14:29.680 stories domestic and abroad and wrangling all those reporters bringing that content in just

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00:14:55.960 So I got Michelle Sterling in. 0.83

00:14:57.060 I know she's got a busy day, so I'll bring her in right away

00:14:59.660 so she could talk, because I really did want to discuss this

00:15:02.500 from a column she'd provided us at the Western Standard recently.

00:15:06.120 So thank you very much for joining us today, Michelle.

00:15:08.380 It's been a while.

00:15:09.400 My pleasure.

00:15:10.240 Thanks, Corey.

00:15:11.460 Yeah, it has been.

00:15:12.500 and you cover a lot and I know your most recent piece for the standard is on solar powered things

00:15:18.020 which is also a fantastic read but also you discuss the indigenous file a lot as do I

00:15:26.220 and this latest group I hadn't even heard of them permanent people's tribunal what that on earth is

00:15:34.200 this? Well, this is an organization that was set up around 1967, based on the Algeria Human Rights

00:15:44.160 People's Declaration, which is different than the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,

00:15:49.080 which was done in 1948. And so they are an opinion tribunal, but they make rather sweeping

00:15:58.260 generalizations and condemnations like they condemned Canada of genocide, continuing genocide

00:16:06.320 and human rights violations after four days of hearings in Montreal. And the thing that I think

00:16:13.380 Canadians should be concerned about is who funded this group, who brought this group here.

00:16:18.900 Is our own government funding these kinds of people? And of course, our government never

00:16:24.680 send any comment or representative to defend the country so you have this flock of self-appointed

00:16:34.280 tribunalists experts few of whom are even lawyers decide to condemn an entire country

00:16:41.720 and i think the key point is that people have to realize there's a whole stack of these human rights

00:16:47.640 reports stacking up at the UN. And the day after UNDRIP received royal assent on June 22,

00:16:57.800 China of 2021, China and all of its despot allies, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, 0.86

00:17:05.560 they all went before the Human Rights Commission in Geneva, the UN panel on human rights, 0.82

00:17:13.400 and they condemned Canada of human rights crimes citing the Kamloops 215. So this becomes very

00:17:22.040 pivotal and to my mind it's very curious that this coalition was so quickly gathered together

00:17:28.440 immediately on the passing of UNDRIP and of course UNDRIP is the lever that's now being used in many

00:17:35.080 of these land back claims and as you pointed out a lot of these tribes are I think there's you know

00:17:44.520 a hundred 150 tribes who have fewer than a hundred people something like that 63 that have fewer than

00:17:51.400 500 so of the 650 tribes first nations in Canada a lot of them have almost no people you know

00:18:00.760 they're not actually a nation they don't fit the definition of a nation so my concern is that our 0.65

00:18:07.060 new strategic partner is china is also the leader of a group of despot nations that's accused us of

00:18:14.300 genocide and human rights crimes at the un and i see this whole permanent people's tribunal is

00:18:21.660 setting a trap for us geopolitically and we're just sailing along not even paying any attention

00:18:28.480 Well, that's what I mean.

00:18:29.440 Yeah, this slid right under the radar.

00:18:31.380 And these are very serious accusations.

00:18:33.460 And we're talking to the United Nations, that we're talking about an international house where I understand, you know, some activists have spread the definition of genocide to everything from chicken farms to you name it.

00:18:46.260 But we know realistically, those of us with some sense, that there's been some horrible acts of humanity done over the last century that certainly qualify as a genocide.

00:18:55.860 and it insults people to call some of these other you know issues with calling Canada a genocidal

00:19:03.860 country is just beyond the pale and then not to have Canada have anybody on the ground to at least

00:19:08.340 defend us over this. Right and in fact they should never have passed judgment because according to

00:19:15.940 the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which was written and codified in 1948 I believe it was

00:19:24.040 You know, it's fundamental that a person has an absolute right, and a country I foresee as a person as well, an entity, right, has a right to a free and fair trial with all proper defense and a presumption of innocence.

00:19:40.680 A presumption of innocence is a fundamental element of rule of law.

00:19:45.580 So you can find it in Section 11 of the Charter.

00:19:48.800 It's a fundamental to British law for centuries.

00:19:53.360 You know, you may be accused, but you are to be presumed innocent until proven in a court of law with evidence.

00:20:02.260 So, you know, these guys just had a bunch of activists there.

00:20:05.440 One of the main star witnesses was Kimberly Murray.

00:20:10.080 And some people will be familiar with her name.

00:20:12.780 She was the special interlocutor for unmarked burials and missing children related to Indian residential schools.

00:20:21.780 So she had a two-and-a-half-year stint at that where she visited all these sharing circles.

00:20:27.740 Well, the group that hosted this Permanent People's Tribunal also hosted one of her sharing circles.

00:20:35.660 And also, a little tiny non-profit in Montreal got a million dollars from, I believe it was from the Department of Justice, to do that.

00:20:44.260 So, you know, this little group, it's a non-profit or a charity, sorry, charity, it doesn't represent 41 million Canadians.

00:20:52.520 It represents a very small group, and they had Kimberly Murray, who had also declared that she wrote the reports for the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

00:21:01.940 So we have this continuum of a one-woman show condemning Canada, and all of her reports escalated.

00:21:10.100 You know, it initially began with, like, we think some kids are missing, and unmarked graves should be discovered and marked, and family members should be notified when files are available.

00:21:20.760 You know, then it grew from that to her final report as special interlocutor, that the government had disappeared people, as if we were in Guatemala or Argentina, where, you know, during military coups, the government literally did disappear people.

00:21:38.020 But in Canada, these alleged disappeared people have no names, and they also have no family members standing there with a picture saying, this is my brother.

00:21:47.520 He went missing under the military coup on this date, and we don't know where he is.

00:21:53.900 We don't have anyone like that.

00:21:55.960 We don't have any list of names of children alleged to be missing.

00:21:59.900 and now we even have the globe and mail um stepping back and saying oh by the way we didn't

00:22:07.200 really research that story about the you know 215 in Kamloops sorry yeah well and i'm glad that the

00:22:14.560 globe at least kind of admitted that okay it was a we looks like we reported on a hoax there's not

00:22:19.440 any children buried at the Kamloops residential school sorry about that no harm no foul they're

00:22:23.260 moving on uh but we need something more than that as you're saying these activists these groups are

00:22:28.780 going to international events and using that to cite bad Canadian behavior. They're promoting a

00:22:35.740 hoax and calling us genocidal over it. How on earth are we ever going to rectify? I mean,

00:22:41.720 we know what has to be done. We've got to get a shovel. But is it ever going to happen?

00:22:46.780 Well, and not only a shovel, but, you know, what are we doing to little children? You know,

00:22:51.980 all of our children at school have been told, and they've had to participate in various kinds

00:22:56.640 of rituals to, you know, tie orange ribbons, 215 orange ribbons to the school fence and wear an

00:23:06.420 orange hair shirt and beat themselves with a cat or nine tails for being descended from people who

00:23:11.540 built a beautiful country. You know, how are we going to ever reshape their minds? It's really

00:23:19.000 a travesty. Can I put in a quick plug? Of course. I'm going to be talking with Tanya Gaw on action

00:23:26.260 for Canada about the Globe and Mail apology. And, you know, when you said no harm, sorry,

00:23:32.280 no harm done, well, 100 churches were burnt or vandalized, and two people died in one of those

00:23:37.160 fires. So this misreporting by the Globe and Mail had very serious consequences, not to mention,

00:23:43.360 I'm sure that China and its buddies will be citing Globe and Mail stories, all 63 of them or 61 of

00:23:50.720 with mass grave they will be citing them as um as if fact right oh yeah and and i i didn't mean 0.76

00:24:00.080 that there was no harm no foul and what was done just some of the attitude from them okay we did

00:24:03.680 a retraction we'll just let it go uh but you know some of the problems as you kind of pointed out

00:24:08.880 this this self-loathing that they're trying to instill in school children and even with some

00:24:13.440 of the i mean some of the bad things happen in points in history farther back we you know the

00:24:17.840 the Kamloops thing is extremely questionable, but there's things that may have happened,

00:24:21.340 absolutely. But I look at, you know, a relatively contemporary example of real genocide with what

00:24:27.920 happened in World War II, and Germany, you know, has certainly accepted and owned, you know, the

00:24:34.420 bad doings of the time, but they're not shaming young German children coming up through school

00:24:40.300 now because of what happened back in the 30s and 40s. You know, I think as a nation, they've

00:24:45.820 accepted that it was dead wrong, and they've certainly paid, everybody paid a horrible price

00:24:49.520 for it, but there's not this perpetual, ongoing, multi-generational shaming that's happening in

00:24:55.800 Germany that we're seeing with this indigenous state that we have in Canada, where, I don't know,

00:25:01.320 my great-grandchildren might have to do land acknowledgements and say that they're genocidal 0.91

00:25:06.080 settlers. I mean, this is a reprogramming that we've got to push back against. Yeah, well, and

00:25:12.180 has very many Maoist characteristics to it. I did an article a while ago on my substack about George

00:25:19.380 Manuel. You maybe heard that the RCMP files revealed that they had been secretly surveilling

00:25:25.300 him. Well and good thing that they did because the early red power movement across North America was 1.00

00:25:32.900 quite connected to the Black Panthers and also to Maoist, Leninist ideology. And it's funny, 0.98

00:25:42.980 you know, back in the day, well, what is now the AFN? I guess it was the National Indian Brotherhood

00:25:52.740 then. They presented a model of how they thought land back and such like should be. And it was

00:25:58.660 Jean Chrétien and Len Marchand, who said, gee, you know, people might wake up in BC one day and

00:26:04.580 find out they don't live in Canada anymore. That was like 30 years ago. That was all related

00:26:09.900 to this kind of Maoist movement. And people don't realize that there was a contingent of

00:26:16.980 Aboriginal people from Canada who went on a state-sponsored trip to China back in 1975,

00:26:23.680 I think it was. And they now have developed a First Nations Critical Minerals Strategy,

00:26:31.960 a First Nations, a BC First Nations China Enterprise Strategy. So they are taking it

00:26:40.300 upon themselves to act as if they are nations, these little tiny groups, and exploit whatever

00:26:46.660 resources they have access to with directly with another nation uh and i don't think canadians are

00:26:54.660 aware that this is happening yeah well all we can do is keep trying to bring awareness to it i'll

00:27:00.720 let you go i know you got to get running so with your sub stack and other areas where can people

00:27:04.060 find more of your work in your writing michelle well i have a blog michellesterling.com that's

00:27:09.880 with an i in sterling and my sub stack michelle sterling and i'm also on medium and youtube and

00:27:18.320 you can also see my mini documentary rebutting the film sugarcane it's called the bitter roots

00:27:26.160 of sugarcane you can see that on rumble so there's a few spots all right well thank you very

00:27:32.460 much uh you know we just got to keep talking about these things and pushing and hopefully

00:27:36.520 some common sense will eventually sink in, but boy, what a crazy environment we're living in

00:27:40.740 right now. So thank you again, and I hope we get to talk again soon. I won't have such a gap between

00:27:45.320 our interviews this time. Okay, thank you. See you. Okay, thanks, Michelle. So you guys, if you

00:27:50.500 even want to look it up on both, you know, sustainability, environmental issues, Michelle's 1.00

00:27:55.220 been fantastic with that and prolific, and on this ongoing Indigenous ridiculousness that's 1.00

00:28:01.700 going on. It's good to see somebody stepped up in the comment area to show the misinformation 1.00

00:28:05.480 about what a genocide is.

00:28:07.200 Brett Boyle keeps talking about the genocide in Palestine

00:28:09.820 and it's been going on for decades.

00:28:11.700 That's just either a complete misunderstanding

00:28:13.480 on what's happening over there

00:28:15.040 or outright misinformation.

00:28:17.780 Actually, I was there a few months ago. 0.82

00:28:19.680 It's pretty terrible what's happening in Israel

00:28:22.180 and Gaza and areas such as that. 0.88

00:28:25.480 It is, and it's a war

00:28:26.460 and there's been bad things done by both sides.

00:28:28.280 But it's not genocide, dude.

00:28:31.320 Populations don't grow

00:28:32.560 when they're suffering under genocide for decades.

00:28:35.480 I believe the Jewish population still hasn't quite caught up to where it was back in the 40s yet. 0.82

00:28:41.340 That's genocide. 0.98

00:28:42.180 Check out Rwanda. 0.77

00:28:43.260 That's genocide.

00:28:44.520 A bunch of aggrieved Islamic extremists who FAFO'd themselves and got the consequences of it. 0.84

00:28:52.600 Tragic, messy, ugly, but it's not genocide.

00:28:56.920 Quit calling every little issue you don't like genocide because that's not what it is,

00:29:02.400 and it undercuts the real genocides that are happening over there in the world in general. 0.53

00:29:08.420 And I tell you, if Israel wanted to wipe out every person in Gaza,

00:29:13.200 they could have done it within hours of October 7th. 0.73

00:29:16.300 They had the ability.

00:29:18.740 So either way, that's where these discussions go, right?

00:29:21.200 You know, the people with the baloney about whether Canada committed genocide

00:29:24.360 or others and things such as that.

00:29:27.320 It's destructive, it's divisive, and it's not doing anybody any favors

00:29:31.940 are solving any problems. It's just mostly people with an extreme leftist agenda that try to use

00:29:37.160 extreme buzzwords to make a point. All right, let's see what else we've got going on.

00:29:44.380 I'll bring things a little lighter. Interesting. Dave brought it up, and there's going to be

00:29:48.420 a press conference this afternoon with Premier Smith talking about, and there's been pressure

00:29:55.300 on that. I think I wrote a column on that getting on her case a bit. We were supposed to at least

00:29:59.740 cut the um the amount of gas tax that we're paying in alberta if the oil prices get high enough and

00:30:05.940 they never quite got around to that it sounds like that might be coming and then as dave said yes the

00:30:09.720 danny bucks could be coming along right away which you know why is it done as it works this is a

00:30:17.360 response of premier smith seeing a slump in the polls you know she's been i i think in general

00:30:22.560 and i get uh you know flack for that but i think in general she's been pretty good but she's prone

00:30:28.480 to being reactive prone to i think a little bit of panic when things slip a little bit that's part 0.82

00:30:34.420 of the the bizarre uh uh release you know that she put out or statement she put out when she

00:30:41.620 was going on about that 400 billion dollar uh you know cost of transition if alberta became

00:30:46.000 independent and stuff like that uh that was a response to slipping in the polls and then they

00:30:51.980 get afraid and think that and then they overcorrect either way you know putting money back in the

00:30:56.680 pockets of Albertans doesn't harm that much, but it does reduce credibility. Are we conservatives

00:31:05.280 or not? The deficit when the oil prices were low was way too high for a province that's ostensibly

00:31:11.340 fiscally responsible. We should be taking the windfall from the high energy prices and eliminating

00:31:18.320 the debt. Get rid of it. Go back to net zero where Ralph Klein brought us. Then we can start talking

00:31:26.100 about handing money out. But the reason is it works. Ralph Klein did that a long time ago when

00:31:31.140 his support was starting to slide a bit too. And it worked. It brought his support numbers up.

00:31:38.500 Everybody got a check in their hands, I think for 400 bucks. And that was, you know, 20 some years

00:31:41.820 ago. That's a lot of money in the hands of, you know, people at that time. And it made them more

00:31:48.380 endeared to the government and it kept Klein in power. But it's not responsible policy. It's not

00:31:53.960 good policy. But I don't expect it to stop. This is the nature of politics. And it's the nature of

00:32:01.580 our own citizenry, where we're easily bought off, I guess you could say, by a few bucks in hand,

00:32:07.020 rather than looking at the big picture. One of the things that really helped Alberta through

00:32:10.440 some of the tougher times, because we don't get equalization, no matter how bad the oil prices get.

00:32:15.760 But remember 2008, when things crashed all over North America, and including energy prices,

00:32:20.800 Alberta was hurting, it was tough to get any kind of work in the energy sector.

00:32:23.960 but part of why it wasn't so bad was that at least Ralph Klein and the Albertans in the 90s

00:32:30.140 who tightened their belt had knocked off the debt so we didn't have massive debt servicing charges

00:32:33.660 to pay for I mean the debt was already starting to grow again by then but it wasn't massive now

00:32:39.000 we've been bloating it for years and I understand that there's going to be surplus territory and I'm

00:32:44.380 sure that Premier Smith's going to announce some of it's going to go to where's the debt

00:32:47.480 but realistically a responsible conservative should be saying we're going to put every

00:32:52.000 extra dollar in the surplus towards the debt until the debt is gone. Because one of the worst things

00:32:57.040 to waste your money on in the world, everybody knowing it from their household budget, one of

00:33:00.660 the most painful things is interest. It's just burned money. If you don't have to carry the

00:33:06.540 credit card debt, don't. If you could buy a house for cash, Lord knows I can't, but you know, it

00:33:13.400 would certainly be a nice way. I mean, look at the amount when you, over the course of paying

00:33:16.780 a mortgage off that, uh, you've paid an interest. And that's what we're paying on this, this

00:33:26.360 provincial debt, um, is, is, is a, uh, you know, a pile of interest that we don't have to be.

00:33:33.840 And meanwhile, the dollars are coming out to try and keep Albertans happy. Uh, so, you know,

00:33:38.860 another interesting discussion, this is where I differ with some of the, um, you know, followers

00:33:43.160 and so on on this with me, medical assistance and dying. I did have some time back, one of the

00:33:50.080 lawyers from Sue Rodriguez's case, they used to call it assisted suicide back then where somebody

00:33:55.040 was really terminal in a bad way and so on and looking for help on coming out. They didn't

00:34:01.980 anticipate it was going to come into this stuff and go as badly as it would to the point where

00:34:08.500 we're talking about offering it to people with mental health issues.

00:34:12.060 It's just beyond the pale.

00:34:13.700 I'm glad that even a federal committee is realizing they've overstepped for the most part.

00:34:20.880 As Dave said, some senators are going to come out and talk about how horrific it is to deny people with mental health issues.

00:34:25.060 It's absurd.

00:34:27.160 But there's some people on the other side that should just never be made under any circumstance.

00:34:31.200 It shouldn't be offered.

00:34:32.040 It shouldn't be a consideration in the system.

00:34:34.220 I don't agree with them there either, though.

00:34:35.960 it's easy to say that that shouldn't be an option if you're not the one suffering in an agonizing

00:34:42.040 condition with a terminal diagnosis and then you have two options for what might be a few months

00:34:47.720 of existence which would be either being in agonizing pain or drugged to the point of

00:34:53.800 not really being coherent for those last months and some people for religious reasons or whatever

00:34:59.800 else might feel that's still the way to go hang on right to the end but you know what

00:35:03.500 I will not put myself in the shoes of somebody who's in that kind of condition who says,

00:35:08.720 you know what, I just want to bring this to an end now and let them make that choice.

00:35:13.040 But you have to set a bar.

00:35:15.180 And some of those bars are pretty straightforward.

00:35:16.940 I think they were kind of in the right place before.

00:35:19.500 You know, you had to have multiple doctors on it.

00:35:21.580 You had to be terminal, not a case of ongoing and bad.

00:35:25.780 It had to be terminal.

00:35:26.740 There's no curing it.

00:35:27.680 You know that you're reaching towards the end and has to be debilitating.

00:35:31.360 I think a lot of people with terminal diagnosis on things, I mean, if they can still maintain a little bit of a standard of living, you know, they'll want to hang on as long as they can.

00:35:41.660 But now you get into mental health, which is a disease and people suffer and people with mental health issues are having a terrible time.

00:35:50.100 But these are the exact people who can't make an informed judgment about whether or not they should be alive.

00:35:56.520 offering made for that is just going way too far. I'm sorry, I'm just watching the moron in the 1.00

00:36:05.200 commenter there, Brett. He's like, I'm more interested in Corey openly admitting he was just 0.98

00:36:09.220 in Israel. Yes, I traveled to Israel. You know, there's a war over there. Journalists cover that

00:36:15.400 openly admitting it was never a secret peckerhead. So I was there. You were just a YouTube commenter

00:36:24.580 who is thankfully demonstrating the foolishness of this extreme leftist crap that goes, you know, 1.00

00:36:30.740 puts out completely ignorant statements with no clue on what's happening in the Middle East. So 1.00

00:36:35.060 please, Brett, explain further for the rest of the commenters on there. For those who want more,

00:36:40.960 you know, reasonable discussions on things, we'll just carry on with that. I'll leave his comments

00:36:46.480 alone. Man, he's a winner. All right. The other thing, you know, that I really, I was hoping to

00:36:51.740 calling Craig on. I'll get him to talk sometime soon. He talks on secondstreet.org. He runs that

00:36:57.240 group and they do dig into the healthcare things excellently and exposing some of those things

00:37:02.460 with the inefficiencies of ours. Because people come to that conclusion a lot when we're talking

00:37:06.520 about thousands of Canadians making over a hundred doctor visits a year in their report. They look at

00:37:11.480 those numbers. They look at those dollars. What would stop that? A user fee. A user fee. We've got

00:37:18.500 a whole lot of people we know who are as I said to Dave hypochondriacs or lonely or have mental

00:37:26.980 health issues bringing in their kids every time the kid gets the sniffles when you didn't need

00:37:31.200 to see a doctor for it you know every time you stubbed a toe a lot of those people if it was

00:37:35.920 even 10 or 20 dollars a visit might suddenly reconsider how often they're going but we do

00:37:42.120 have a universal system we have to find a way to distinguish you know somebody who might be very

00:37:47.840 sick with a chronic condition who has to see a doctor once a week, twice a week, if they're that

00:37:52.940 sick. And we don't want to punish them and bankrupt them because they have a user fee each time. But I

00:37:57.020 think we can find those levels. You know, we can find things for people under a certain degree of

00:38:02.060 income. Don't want somebody who's really sick not to go to the doctor because they couldn't afford

00:38:05.360 $20 or something. But I think it's not unfair for most of us who have jobs who are relatively

00:38:11.080 healthy to think, yeah, you know what, I can cough up 20 bucks when I go to the doctor to see them

00:38:14.620 about something. It's not that hard. And I suspect it would reduce a whole heck of a lot of it.

00:38:19.860 Roseanne Hutchins saying, didn't we have user fees in the early 80s? I don't think so. I would

00:38:24.880 have been, you know, a kid at that point, I guess. But we did have the Alberta health care premiums,

00:38:31.980 which I don't think was necessarily the best thing around either. Part of the point of that was,

00:38:36.780 you know, that people just can't, it was just a tax. I mean, when a government takes it,

00:38:39.120 they call it a premium, but it's a tax. And we used to have to pay a monthly thing for health

00:38:42.640 care. That stopped sometime, I think, what, in the late 90s or so. But it gave a misimpression to

00:38:49.520 some people that they were paying the full amount of their health care costs or things like that.

00:38:54.560 I remember online discussions with, you know, again, a misinformed leftist from back then. He

00:38:59.400 was saying, you know, the health care over here is so far more expensive. It costs this much in

00:39:03.440 this country and that much in that country as he defended the status quo. And here it only cost me

00:39:07.080 $400 a year. Well, no, your health care premiums cost you $400 a year, but the health care coverage

00:39:13.420 for you cost about $8,000 to $10,000 back in those days per year. It gives a false impression of how

00:39:20.280 much the health care actually costs when you add it all up for provision across a province.

00:39:26.000 Just call it a tax then. If you want more tax for more universal coverage in an inefficient system

00:39:30.520 that's collapsing on itself and people dying on waiting lists, then maybe premiums are the way

00:39:33.700 to go with it. But if we actually wanted to do something as, you know, again, just to slow it

00:39:39.400 down a bit, at least make it a little more efficient. Yeah, I think a user fee for seeing

00:39:43.080 a doctor isn't necessarily a bad thing. But we really need to reform that system altogether.

00:39:47.380 I mean, Canada's system is truly, truly collapsing. We're seeing that in every province. It's funny

00:39:54.060 watching the games. It's usually unions. They're at the root of a lot of it. You know, they blame

00:39:58.240 every year. Oh, it's the conservatives did this. The conservatives did that. Well, guess what?

00:40:01.200 it's collapsing in the NDP BC. It's collapsing in NDP Manitoba. It's collapsing in Quebec.

00:40:06.820 It's collapsing in Newfoundland. We got the exact same thing happening everywhere. We're running

00:40:10.240 out of doctors, running out of space, and people are running out of time waiting to get care.

00:40:15.020 We have to re-evaluate that whole system. And oh no, I'm not looking to Americanize it. I'm sure

00:40:21.360 I'll see that coming from someone soon. Guess what? There are dozens and dozens of systems around

00:40:26.640 the world that provide universal care, which means you don't need a credit card to go in and get care,

00:40:31.200 but they do offer more private options. And guess what? They're outperforming the heck of us.

00:40:38.100 So why don't we start looking at them and quit the union crap on holding onto this broken system 0.91

00:40:42.740 that's really making people suffer and dragging everybody down to a lowest common denominator. 0.91

00:40:46.860 And the reality is too, the politics of envy are a huge part of it. Oh, that rich guy will be able

00:40:51.280 to get in there faster than me. That'd be unfair. Guess what? If somebody really is that well off,

00:40:57.140 they're going to jump the line. It's just that they're going to leave the country to do it.

00:41:00.520 they'll go to Vietnam, they'll go to the United States, they'll go where they can pay to get the

00:41:04.520 care. So you're not stopping them with your politics of envy, but you are driving their

00:41:09.280 dollars out of the country. Why not have those dollars, stay here, pay specialists here, fund

00:41:16.780 facilities here, so all of the rest of us can enjoy it. Just get over the envy. Yeah, he might

00:41:22.060 get a little ahead of you. Oh, well, get over it. Probably has a bigger house than you, probably has

00:41:26.720 a nicer car than you, probably eats better meals than you, has better clothing, and maybe Stipp's 1.00

00:41:31.800 a better looking woman than you. Get over it. Either bring yourself better in life and try and 1.00

00:41:37.560 rise in the scrotum pole of humanity, or get over it. Envy doesn't help anybody. But until then,

00:41:49.600 we'll see this system continue to collapse in among itself anyways. And Alberta has been

00:41:54.100 exceptional for the people abusing it apparently across the uh other uh oh sorry i just have to

00:42:01.480 laugh see brett is outstanding you would think i put this guy in on purpose look at that he

00:42:05.400 he came right out i i guess he's not listening to me trying to americanize our health care you

00:42:09.480 know there we go right to it right right to the stock lines man guys you gotta get a new playbook

00:42:13.900 carry on brett you're making my case for me all right some of the current events though yes sundry

00:42:19.380 Let's talk about sundry.

00:42:21.100 That was the whole thing that had happened.

00:42:23.480 There was a parade coming for a rodeo.

00:42:25.140 It's been happening for a long time.

00:42:26.840 There was a group that wanted to put a float in that had Alberta flags on it.

00:42:29.940 Nothing else, just Alberta flags.

00:42:31.920 But apparently they decided that was too politicized. 1.00

00:42:33.920 A committee, a committee of fools. 1.00

00:42:36.720 And the idiots went and blocked that float, 1.00

00:42:39.660 whilst allowing Thomas Lukasik's Little Forever Canada float. 1.00

00:42:42.720 So the double standard enraged a lot of people.

00:42:46.100 They got a lot of blowback.

00:42:47.840 And then it turned out that they reversed their decision, said they will allow the Alberta float in.

00:42:51.900 But by then it was too late.

00:42:52.920 The toothpaste was out of the tube. 0.98

00:42:54.300 And that also brought even more blowback from the crazy Federalists.

00:42:57.340 Now, one thing I'm kind of annoyed with, and I can believe it, there was probably some horrific messaging, emails, phone calls, you name it, that went to them from both sides.

00:43:07.740 And, you know, these committee members shouldn't have to be exposed to being that rude to them.

00:43:14.180 I wish people would calm down.

00:43:15.420 Most people are.

00:43:16.200 It's usually just a few keyboard hammerheads just throwing out belligerence in general on both sides, on the fringes, the ends of things.

00:43:23.340 But still, they canceled the parade.

00:43:26.380 Pure cowardice.

00:43:27.480 Rather than dealing with it anymore, they canceled the whole thing.

00:43:32.240 So what's happening now?

00:43:34.460 An independent supporting group is going to be bringing a parade to Sundry this Saturday anyways.

00:43:41.380 They're getting together.

00:43:42.340 There's going to be a parade and basically saying to Sundry, what are you going to do about it?

00:43:45.600 It's going to be a positive thing from what I've seen.

00:43:47.300 It should be a good time.

00:43:48.800 They should have a lot of fun at this thing.

00:43:52.500 I like seeing this pushback from people on the ground,

00:43:54.660 citizens saying, you know what,

00:43:55.520 we don't have to wait for you.

00:43:56.740 We aren't waiting for your permission to do this.

00:43:59.940 We're Albertans.

00:44:00.540 We're not going to let a committee of wimps

00:44:01.980 stop what was an annual tradition

00:44:04.140 for generations in the town.

00:44:06.200 They're going to go out

00:44:07.080 and they're going to drive on those streets

00:44:08.740 and they're going to have a good time.

00:44:09.660 The Western Standard is going to have somebody

00:44:11.160 out there covering it in person.

00:44:12.300 And, well, I just think it's purely Alberta. Just a comment there, Brett Gelley, another

00:44:21.760 Brett, not the same one. Treason is no longer a capital offense punished by death by military law.

00:44:26.200 Yeah, that's right. We don't have capital punishment in Canada no longer. It's still a very

00:44:29.700 serious offense, but nobody is committing it in Canada. People can look up the definitions of it

00:44:35.240 too. Holding a legal referenda actually is not treason. Daniel Smith certainly hasn't committed

00:44:40.620 treason, but it really shows the idiocy and hysteria coming from the indigenous, I'll put it 1.00

00:44:46.520 in quotes, leadership. The corruption on those reserves, guys, is overwhelming. It's just 1.00

00:44:52.200 something else. And these chiefs, they don't represent the people on the ground. The people

00:44:58.280 on the ground, the indigenous reserves are suffering and they're miserable. That's why 1.00

00:45:01.400 they're actually 46% of them in a huge, large poll of 3,000 respondents. And it was found

00:45:05.560 46% of Indigenous people on the ground

00:45:07.700 support independence.

00:45:09.380 But the chiefs, the chiefs are lining

00:45:11.720 their pockets and

00:45:13.280 calling for treason charges against the

00:45:15.720 premier. You think people are going to take you

00:45:17.600 seriously? Well,

00:45:19.700 the CBC does. But eventually

00:45:21.580 things are going to be had out and these chiefs get beyond reasonable

00:45:23.540 and it's just going to get worse. Valerie's saying, what time

00:45:25.660 does the sundry roll begin? I don't know. I think they're going to

00:45:27.660 converge on sundry about 10 o'clock

00:45:29.720 in the morning. Just search things out on Facebook.

00:45:32.180 I think it's like the Independence Cruise and

00:45:33.640 things like that in your cruise to independence you'll find the details it's going to be all over

00:45:37.420 it's going to be a very interesting weekend all right guys that's the time i've got for today 0.98

00:45:42.440 thank you for tuning in even brett boyle to show just how stupid the left is it's good to see

00:45:47.720 working examples in the wild i'm going to be back next week at this time the pipeline is going to

00:45:52.460 be on tonight we'll break down some more issues with a panel and uh be sure to like share and

00:45:57.840 all that good stuff so we can keep bypassing the old legacy media gatekeepers of information thank

00:46:03.540 you for your time today we'll see you next week at this time again

00:46:33.540 Thank you.

Western Standard - June 18, 2026

Consultation has broken Canada

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