CORY MORGAN SHOW： Alberta could crash Canada’s dairy supply management system
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Summary
In this episode of The Cory Morgan Show, I talk to Lindsay Wilson, a woman who has been involved in a number of things politically in Alberta over the years, and she's organized the "Do It Right" Women's Conference. I talk about why Alberta should get rid of supply management and why it's a bad idea.
Transcript
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Hey, welcome to The Cory Morgan Show, my weekly opportunity to go through some news stories,
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interview some people, and get whatever's annoying me off my chest so poor Jane doesn't
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I see it's already lively in the comments section there, guys, or at least for those who are
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Hey, get in there, chat with each other, send me questions, comments.
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I don't necessarily read them all out, but I do see them all there.
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So good to see you, Phil and Dwayne and who I am today, whoever that may be, and Jake.
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We want to really get fighting at each other and calling each other names.
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We can cover a little more productive ground on here.
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She's been involved in a number of things politically in Alberta over the years, and
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she's with Link Strategies now, and she's organizing the Doing It Right Women's Conference.
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I know we hear about women's conferences and politics all the time, but it's usually some
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I'll talk to her about it, and then we'll check in with Dave on some news things in
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But I've got to get my rant of the day out of the way.
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It's familiar turf for you guys, but something's kind of changed because we've taken a provincial
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approach to it, and it's Canada's Soviet supply management system on dairy, poultry, and
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It's been screwing citizens for decades with higher food prices.
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It's been shrinking family farms, and it's disrupted international trade deals.
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The dairy cartels are deeply entrenched in Canada, and they've effectively cowed every
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federal political party, including the Conservatives.
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No major federal leader is going to dare question supply management for fear of upsetting the
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precious souls in Quebec, which benefits, of course, disproportionately from the program.
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So the standoff on this terrible policy robs Canadian consumers of billions of dollars.
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Now Premier Daniel Smith might actually prove to be the catalyst that finally breaks this
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I mean, supply management serves Alberta poorly, and she can make a solid case as to why the
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Smith has nothing to fear with the wrath of Quebec.
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If anything, pissing off, Quebec only bolsters her support back home.
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Alberta has some of the richest agricultural land in North America.
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We also have some of the most experienced and successful farmers and ranchers.
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If they can be freed from the shackles of Canada's supply management system, we could look
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forward to a more diverse, value-added agricultural industry, benefiting all Albertans, producers,
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Currently, the dairy quotas predominantly go to Quebec producers.
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It's $25,000 a cow for a quota in Quebec, and as much as $50,000 in Alberta.
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It's illegal to produce eggs, milk, chickens, or turkeys without that government-issued quota.
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An Alberta farmer was recently jailed for the crime of selling his own eggs.
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The system is obscene in its control and infringement upon free markets.
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Albertans pay inflated prices for food products due to the purposeful strangulation of supply
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In any other industry, this sort of price-fixing would be illegal.
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Canadian dairy producers have literally dumped over 6 billion litres of milk down the drain
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over the last few years because it would be illegal for them to sell it or even give
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Isn't that nice for families struggling to pay the food bills?
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The system's led to Canada having fewer dairy farmers in larger concentrations in Quebec,
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When supply management was first imposed upon farmers, there were 140,000 dairy farms.
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Now there's only about 9,000 and that number's dropping because only large corporate operations
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can afford those quotas and they've squeezed out the small producers.
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New Zealand and Australia had supply management systems in the 70s, but they wisely got out
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Because they got rid of it, their dairy industries have flourished and both countries have turned
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into very successful exporters of agricultural products.
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Defenders of dairy cartels try to claim that if we got rid of the wretched quota system,
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we'd suddenly be flooded with dairy products without regulations.
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Quality control standards have nothing to do with the price-fixing scheme and the standards
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They also claim we'd be flooded with allegedly inferior American products if we got rid of
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The tariff system blocking American dairy goods has nothing to do with quotas.
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America's dairy products are neither inferior or dangerous, but if you really don't want
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If we have a strong domestic dairy industry unbound by supply management, we won't need to import
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We can be exporters of everything from powdered milk to cheese to ice cream.
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Supply management defenders are making the case that Canadian producers are so incompetent
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that if we got rid of the quota system, they'd go broke.
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The strong will survive just as they do in every other industry.
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And no, we couldn't get rid of the system overnight.
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An addict has to be weaned from their drug of their choice.
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The system must be dismantled, though, over some years and in stages, and a degree of
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There's no better time to start that process than now.
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Supply management benefits Quebec, thus no federal party will dare question it.
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If we want to break free, it has to be a provincial initiative, and we can't initiate
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So much like the pension plan, the RCMP collecting our own taxes, supply management's another
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policy where Alberta can step up and take control for itself.
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And with all those policies, when the federalists complain about Alberta standing up for itself,
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If Premier Daniel Smith breaks the dairy cartel in Alberta, it'll lead to the end of it across
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But it has to begin with putting Albertans first.
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All right, let's check in with our news editor, Dave Naylor, and see what's happening.
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I was in BC on the weekend, didn't get back until Monday, and by then, you know, the week's
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So I hear I might be getting some honey tomorrow.
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Getting it tomorrow, but yeah, we're doing the big harvest tomorrow.
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This rain, as miserable as it's been, it's been great for the wildflowers and everything
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But when they get mad enough, they can defeat the suit.
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And when you're stealing all their honey, they get mad.
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Running across the yard as the bees let me know that stuff.
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I am recovering from a little bit of an infection.
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Three miners are trapped in a northern B.C. mine after some sort of incident.
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Premier Eby says they're alive and okay and in a safety room.
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I mean, even just as you survive it doesn't mean you're not going to be traumatized.
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I hope to get those poor guys out as soon as possible.
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Yeah, so are Jared Yuggers staying on top of that one.
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But interesting story on the number of firearms.
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The number of firearms licenses in Canada the next year hit a record high.
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So, you know, that's just more guns for the Liberals to try and grab.
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You know, it's funny because they're trying to make firearms so unpopular.
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But it does seem to be having the opposite effect.
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Well, people want to buy them before they become completely illegal, I guess.
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There's a provincial government report, an Alberta government report today, into Medicine Hat
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And it basically says it's a mess and basically they need to clean house.
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Yeah, or James Finkbeiner, I'm sure, will be tripping in on Twitter on that one.
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Asylum seekers in Canada are now costing us $2 billion a year.
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And sort of the number one story on the site this morning is, you know, Parks Canada decision
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to cancel a concert in Halifax by a Christian musician.
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People were angry at him because he's a Donald Trump supporter, I guess.
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And Parks Canada has deemed it could be unsafe.
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You know, when those wild Christians get together, you know,
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it could be looting and rioting in the streets.
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So, yeah, it's more of Parks Canada getting more ideologically involved in our lives, I guess.
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The woke infection is really getting everywhere, isn't it?
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You know, it's, I think the tide is finally turning a little bit,
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but it's an ongoing battle, especially with the feds.
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Well, I've heard that they did find a new venue anyways.
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They said that Christian rock thing doesn't do it for me,
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Yeah, I thought we had free speech in this country.
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Yeah, I mean, Jan Arden, you know, can't stand her political stances.
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If you don't want to go see her, don't go see her.
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Well, she's hard to miss if she's wandering around.
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Well, I see you've got a really packed newsroom.
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Yeah, we've had some new hirings, and, yeah, things are going great.
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So we've been indulging in birthday cake all morning.
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Well, I'll let you back to trying to keep all the chickens in line back there
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All right, and good luck with the honey tomorrow.
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You know, Soviet style, and I know people get upset when I say that all the time
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about supply management on X and areas like that.
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But there really is nothing more Soviet than that.
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There's one of the areas of conservative hypocrisy, and there's a lot of it in that.
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Oh, but supply management, well, that's different.
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If you're such a crappy dairy farmer that you need to have your competition illegalized,
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I should have every right to go out, buy a couple cows, milk those suckers, and sell it
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to whoever I please for as much as I feel I might be able to get for it.
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That's how I do it with my bees and my honey, actually.
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But we don't need a quota system to have that, do we?
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I mean, that came up, you know, recently with that egg farmer in Alberta.
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The man actually had five RCMP cruisers show up on his doorstep for the crime of having
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And then some people claim to be conservative and say that system is okay.
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Just because the federal conservatives are totally terrified of the dairy cartels doesn't mean you have
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to walk the line along with them and pretend that this Soviet-style system is worth defending.
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But either way, I'm glad to see we won't have the federal politicians taking it on.
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As I said on the pipeline when I was talking about that, I hit Pierre Polyev with that when
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he was on my show one time, and boy, he didn't like talking about the subject because it is
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And if he takes a stance on that where you're going to tick off Quebec, I mean, you don't
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Another thing that's been hitting the news, and The Standard covered that too.
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We cover our kind of story as it happened yesterday.
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You know, Ozzy Osbourne passed away as a kid who grew up in the 80s, you know, with my
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I mean, Ozzy was certainly a part of my life back then.
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Even prior to that, in the 70s, a Black Sabbath for the older crowds.
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I mean, there's only so many musicians that really are, you know, sort of that one of
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a kind that really stand out and change the whole genre.
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It really was just the realm of the weird headbangers in the 80s until the 90s when he
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got into that reality show and you got to see him as a person.
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And what a bizarre and interesting and fun and weird person he was.
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And yeah, Parkinson's was really running him down.
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Whether he liked his music or didn't like his music, it's undeniable that he was just
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one of those huge influential players in the whole thing.
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I mean, you look at every from the glam rock to the other heavy metal types and musician
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And of all guys, I got to admit, I would have thought he would have been dead back in the
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80s with the amount of cocaine that man consumed.
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You would have thought a heart attack or something would have taken him earlier.
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But somehow he got through it and passed up Parkinson's at 76.
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I'm sure you're rocking it if there is something on the other side with old Randy Rhodes there.
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And thank you for, you know, allowing me to really enjoy your music through the 80s and
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Let's get on to some stuff and talk with our guests here.
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We got Lindsay Wilson of Link Strategies talking about a woman's conference.
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You know, I'm sitting here and I'm just really trying to, number one, picture you tending to
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And then also picture you with your mullet in the 80s listening to Ozzy Osbourne.
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Yeah, I let that mullet picture go out once in a while on social media.
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But with the cigarette in the hand and the black t-shirt and the rest.
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But yeah, I'm almost a farmer, you know, in a real light way.
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And you really cannot forget to lock them up every night or the coyote is going to get
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But yeah, I don't think, you know, I could grow the steleet now.
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There's nothing wrong with having a mullet back in the 80s, even to the early 90s.
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If you still got it today, though, you might want to reevaluate whether you move forward
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I mean, mind you, if you still play hockey, I think you can pull it off.
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I've got a number of tattoos hidden up either way to show permanent marks of my history.
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Yeah, when I finally quit, I'll do one show shirtless and show people just how stupid I've
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When we hear about getting women involved in politics, there is not as many women choose
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to get involved in the political spectrum as others.
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Something that's different this time around, I think all the reasons are the same, though,
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is this isn't at least a bunch of woke women getting together and trying to push those policies.
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You've got something coming together for common women to get involved with, I guess.
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So, this is the Doing It Right Women's Conference.
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It's the first one, and we're going to be having it on Friday, September 12th at the
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We're very specific in picking a venue where we could have great food because you cannot
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host an event for women if you do not have great food.
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But women, you definitely want a nice, beautiful space, welcoming space, ample parking, easy
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And we have all of our speaker announcements coming out.
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Yes, well, I mean, and I understand, I mean, that the political realm, particularly now
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with social media, though it's always been that way, is an abusive realm.
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I was called some wonderful things on X just this morning, but it's easier for a guy to
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shrug off some of those things than, I think, the personal nature of some of the attacks
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They often seem to go to appearance or getting personal or even threatening.
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How, I guess, can then women prepare themselves?
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You can't stop that sort of abuse, but you can hopefully learn to shield yourself from it?
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I think that's really behind why we wanted to do this conference.
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You know, we get very divisive in politics, right?
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But really, most of us are here, what I call the V.
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Most of us are somewhere hovering around the center with most of our ideals, right?
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We go through these things, and it drives people more to the other extremes.
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And we're sort of there right now with politics, right?
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We've kind of become more of an American style of politicking.
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Whether, you know, maybe that engages more people in the long run, I don't know.
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But we wanted a space where women could get together, where we could bring together
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Women from a variety of different industries and multi-partisan women from the whole kind
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So, we wanted to bring them together in one space for one day and say, you know what?
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Connect with other cool women and get encouraged.
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Find out the different positions you can run for.
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Find out the different jobs you can work for in the political space.
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And just don't be afraid to embrace who you are, to talk about your values, and to know
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We're staying away from all the woke DEI stuff.
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And I feel like women's conferences have largely been kind of dominated that way.
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They're either hyper-focused on one topic, on just on energy, or just on wellness, or
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they've become very radicalized, often by the radical left, but sometimes on the other
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And we just wanted a space where women didn't have to feel apprehensive to attend, or that
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This is really for all the ladies from the left to the right.
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And there's a group, I'm forgetting the name, and I don't want to knock them much, but
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I hear them on the radio regularly, and they're trying to get women inspired or involved
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But the reality is, as well, whenever I hear them as a guest, it's cool, they're pushing
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So if you're a conservative-minded woman, you might not necessarily want to gel with that
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group in a room, even if supposedly the intent is a broad spectrum of involvement from women.
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There's the recognition of difference between women and men.
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They're trying to blur the lines with the woke.
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One of the things I think is unfair to women, I guess, in some ways, I don't have to endure.
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But if a man is outspoken and assertive and speaks out, he's, you know, that's a leader,
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And if a woman does that quite often, oh, that's a bitch.
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It's a double standard that's unfair, but you can't move forward in politics without being
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That's why I think we need to do events like this where we need to, you know, attract the
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spectrum of women into a room and we don't have to radicalize things.
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Women have to be asked four, five, six, eight, ten times to run for office.
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We talk about having this network for women, but is there really one?
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Because I talk to a lot of women who are currently elected officials, who've run for
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campaigns, who work in political strategy, and they don't necessarily feel that there's
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So you've already got a few speakers lined up, though.
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So we have the Girls from the Discourse, which is a very popular podcast, and that's
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So they both bring kind of the more conservative and the more left-leaning perspective, and
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I encourage you to follow them and listen to them.
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So they'll be moderating one of our political panels in the afternoon.
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We've got Tashina Jackson to talk about blockchain and how we can utilize that to transform voting
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That's going to be a very exciting panel where my partner, Christy, will be hosting a one-on-one
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with her to talk about how we utilize this technology to engage young people and young
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We've got a keynote that we're very close to announcing.
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We've got Mark McQuaig-Boyd, Rachel Notley's former energy minister.
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Lindsay Montea, the interim Alberta party leader.
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And we're just kind of in talks with a couple of current elected officials.
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So we're rolling out these speaker announcements.
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We started last week and we'll continue in the coming weeks, but I think people will find
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that we're hitting kind of all the notes and yeah, it's just going to be such a great day.
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Well, and it's interesting that McQuaig-Boyd and Oates, yeah, they're not people you, if
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I mean, Oates was involved with the Redford government.
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So maybe a Red Tory and McQuaig-Boyd was outright NDP.
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Though she was a pragmatic one in the energy file, I found a little more than some of the
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others that, you know, in every party, you get some that are on different ends of the
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So she should offer some interesting perspective.
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Women don't want to have things force fed down their throat.
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So we're making sure that we kind of cover, we, we make sure we have a good depth, a good
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range of thought on these panels and we're keeping these panels.
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So there's only two or three people plus a moderator on a panel.
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I find when I go to a lot of these conferences that we'll have five or six people on a panel and
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We really want these women who are speaking to have their actual turn to speak.
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Cause I find when, you know, when we go to a lot of these conferences, we talk to women
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and they don't feel comfortable maybe putting their opinion out there, or they feel that
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They just don't feel like they get kind of the airtime and this is a chance to do it.
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But I do want to add that men are welcome to come.
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You are more than welcome to attend the conference.
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Oh, I don't know if I get the deposit back on my drag outfit for that.
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Well, see, I mean, it's good to hear with it, you know, good planning and things like that
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I mean, large panels are fantastic in their way.
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I guess if you have a weird, quick moving, it depends on what you're doing.
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But if you're trying to talk about bigger issues, it's just too much to digest if the
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moderator is working through five different voices and trying to cover it when a smaller
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group could probably be more effective with that.
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I did a lot of that when I worked for Alberta Proud for years, and I just find it's more
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conducive to a good listening room and to people actually telling their stories when
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Otherwise, people are just fighting for their turn at the mic, and it takes them too long
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to finish what they're saying, and somebody's waiting for their turn to speak, and it's
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And another thing I really wanted to highlight is we're reaching out to the universities,
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We really, really want young people to come to this.
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We think that this type of speakers that we're having really attracts younger women.
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We need to start bringing more younger women into the political movement.
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I think the problem we're having is that women are entering politics at a young age, and they're
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veering super hard left, and men are entering politics and veering super hard right.
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How do we kind of course correct that and bring people a little bit more to the center?
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Yeah, well, it's one of the problems facing us right now.
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I mean, participatory democracy means we've got to participate.
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You get up there, a lot of people don't realize how actually relatively easy it is to get involved
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in political campaigns, whether it's a candidate, a volunteer, any of those things.
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I mean, getting in a room full of other people like that could help, I guess, for younger
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people and so on realize that it is achievable.
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You don't have to be a crazy political nut to get involved in the process.
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And I think we need to send young women a message too.
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If you are conservative, if you have conservative values, that can mean a whole lot of things.
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We're building a network of women who just support one another.
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Sometimes you may have these tendencies or these ideals, and they may align a little bit
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And that doesn't mean that you're not a conservative anymore or that you're not whatever you are.
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We're just, we don't need to be so polarizing with this stuff.
00:25:50.540
There's, you know, just a kind of sidetrack of that stupid long ballot protest that's going
00:25:55.520
There's some clowns who've put 150, 180 people on the by-election ballot protesting for the
00:26:01.840
What kind of annoys me with that, because some people say, well, what do you care?
00:26:04.800
Because I've said, you know, it doesn't matter to the candidate.
00:26:06.420
It's just an annoyance, but it frustrates people from taking part in the process at all, whether
00:26:12.380
it's another candidate, whether it's even a voter who wants to look at that, or people
00:26:15.740
scrutineering, or people working in the elections area.
00:26:19.940
These sorts of things discourage participation, and that really hurts the whole process.
00:26:24.880
So just to say, you know, we got those actions from one group of idiots, but other actions
00:26:29.940
that can encourage people to take part is kind of what you guys are up to.
00:26:33.480
And I wish I could tap into the energy that people put into these kind of things and put
00:26:40.660
But I think in Alberta here, we're dealing with a lot of election fatigue from the federal
00:26:46.960
I think largely most Albertans were fairly disappointed with the last results of the
00:26:54.160
And I think, you know, it speaks to electoral reform, and you and I could do a whole other
00:27:00.720
But yeah, you're right, when we make the process difficult, when we don't make things
00:27:11.400
Again, going back to how do we improve the process for them through technology and really
00:27:15.340
tapping into technology and, you know, obviously making it secure.
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Young people don't want to walk down and cast a ballot and stand in line.
00:27:26.660
Or at least encourage them to make them legalize.
00:27:28.780
I mean, it's not that hard, but it's a world of distractions right now and easy to get
00:27:38.300
I mean, it just seems the more that we do to make it easier to vote, the less people continue
00:27:42.820
I mean, advanced voting is the opportunities now compared to 20 years ago.
00:27:46.760
You know, you've got so many extra days, you've got special ballots, you've got mail-in ballots,
00:27:50.260
you've got all of these different, and the turnouts don't prove.
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Like, do we really move towards a system where we make it illegal to not vote?
00:27:57.660
I mean, there's a whole, that's a whole thing too, right?
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If a person doesn't want to take advantage, I know what you're saying that some people
00:28:03.640
make that case, like in Australia, you could take a hit on your tax return if you don't
00:28:07.320
get up and vote, but I just think, I guess maybe it's the idealist in me.
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A person should just want to, because they want to make their mark to try and move
00:28:16.800
I get that, but it's like, people just don't feel the urgency and it is urgent.
00:28:20.480
I mean, you know, if I may, October 20th, we have a civic election, like civic elections
00:28:24.700
across this province, and we see the least amount of turnout at the civic, at the municipal
00:28:31.020
level, when really, this is the level of politics that affects you the most.
00:28:35.400
This is the stuff, this is fixing your potholes, this is taking care of your garbage, it's removing
00:28:46.240
We have to make people understand, and I don't know, that's the work for people like you
00:28:51.780
So I think, you know, that's one thing that we're doing, what's doing at Right Women's
00:28:54.640
Conference, that if we can just kind of attract what I call the normal people, the average
00:28:59.340
everyday people, which by the way, Corey, you and I are not normal.
00:29:08.120
And I talk to the women that I drop off my kids at school with and, you know, the 40
00:29:12.340
year old moms who, you know, have been successful in their own rights, but they're looking to
00:29:18.560
They have these conversations with me and they feel scared.
00:29:27.100
And I just wanted to create something that, listen, ladies, that you, your voice matters.
00:29:31.900
Here's a way for you to get involved, to meet other really cool women who are just like you.
00:29:35.620
This is not intimidating and the networking is super important and it's very timely for
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It's going to be on Friday, September 12th at the Deerfoot in a casino.
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And that happens to be six weeks, five, six weeks before the October 20th election.
00:29:50.760
So if you want to connect with candidates, if you want to volunteer, if you want to get
00:29:54.400
involved with some campaigns, this is a really great opportunity to come out and meet some
00:29:58.740
like-minded people who just want to make their communities better places.
00:30:09.240
I mean, you know, moving with popcorn, you're already beyond that price point.
00:30:14.240
So if you can come in for the day and it's, you know, it's $45 for you to have a catered
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lunch refreshments all day and end the day in a networking reception.
00:30:20.520
And we're going to have some really cool door prizes.
00:30:22.180
I think that's tremendous value when you compare it to other conferences.
00:30:24.820
But again, we just really want people to show up.
00:30:31.640
And we're going to find out before I let you go, where can people find tickets for it
00:30:35.060
We're on all our social media channels under the Doing It Right Women's Conference
00:30:40.380
If you click onto that website, you can sign up for updates and you'll be on our emailing list
00:30:45.440
and find out about all our speakers rolling out.
00:30:47.400
And again, we're on LinkedIn, we're on Facebook, we're on Instagram.
00:30:52.820
Well, thank you very much for putting it together and coming in to talk to us today about it.
00:30:59.160
I mean, again, the idealist in me who just wants to see more people just encouraged to take part
00:31:03.700
and then we can all fight it out over who's right or wrong.
00:31:05.660
Well, I can't, I can't wait to see you there, Corey.
00:31:07.760
And, you know, you can choose whether you want to wear the drag outfit or the, in honor of the late
00:31:12.760
Aussie Osborne, you could go back to the mullet days too.
00:31:15.300
I mean, we'd welcome you in any way you want to show up.
00:31:25.240
Again, that is Doing It Right Women's Conference.
00:31:28.040
It's easy to find on Google and grab a ticket, get out there, get involved.
00:31:32.360
I mean, that's, it's, it's hard to pull people in if you aren't used to it.
00:31:37.760
Um, part of, uh, the inspiration for me, you know, self-serving plug I'll put for writing
00:31:43.120
that book, the, the, the Sovereignist's Handbook was that I wanted to empower people to realize
00:31:48.620
how to get involved in politics and how easy it is.
00:31:51.700
Cause actually it's, it's not that hard, but they don't teach that in school.
00:31:55.920
They don't teach you what a party membership even is, or what that entitles you to, or how
00:32:01.480
If you're looking to run in an election or all those processes, they aren't actually there
00:32:06.520
if you dig for them, but it's kind of intimidating if you haven't been involved at all.
00:32:10.660
So events like this are good opportunity because it's not like going to a party full of veterans
00:32:15.040
of the politics and everything to get together with others and more casually chat about getting
00:32:21.600
And, uh, yeah, I don't know if I'm going to get up and drag and head on down there,
00:32:24.980
but, uh, it's, uh, it sounds like a good event.
00:32:30.420
Uh, let's see, you know, paradoxically saying, yeah, they don't want the plebs to know.
00:32:33.460
I mean, you know, there, there, there are, there's truth to it.
00:32:42.760
The municipal front, those ones, as Lindsay pointed out, it's where we're our most apathetic.
00:32:48.280
We've had turnouts down in Calgary up the 20 some percent in the election.
00:32:55.300
You wonder why they have crappy public art, why they overtax everybody while they're in Calgary
00:33:00.280
actually has potholes that caused accidents yesterday.
00:33:04.800
People are hitting these potholes so deep that it's knocking the tires off their cars.
00:33:10.860
And meanwhile, Yoni Gondek says they're broke, but they had a 200 and some million dollar
00:33:17.440
They have money to change the name of Fort Calgary to a new woke name.
00:33:24.100
So you can money to give artists and I'll say it in quotes where you can phone and listen
00:33:32.540
Because we don't get off our asses and vote them out.
00:33:34.800
That's why pay attention, get in there, kick them out or, uh, you know, run yourself.
00:33:43.080
That's what these kinds of things would teach a person.
00:33:46.760
Uh, Mary Ann's drink water saying, uh, yeah, you'd definitely be there to see Corey Ozzy
00:33:54.560
Uh, look on X, you know, I'll throw it up sometime.
00:33:58.840
I, Hey, it served me well and it's time, but, uh, those days are well behind me.
00:34:03.300
And I think the world's a better place for that.
00:34:05.040
Uh, you know, old guys with mullets is just kind of a sad thing to see, unless you're again,
00:34:09.140
some sort of icon like Ozzy, you know, getting back to some of the, the, uh, uh, celebrity
00:34:18.760
It seems often when a very major celebrity passes or something happens, somebody gets
00:34:26.940
I remember when, for example, you know, mother Teresa died, it was a rate about at the same
00:34:35.140
So, uh, you know, one kind of overshadowed the other.
00:34:39.580
Just, uh, the other thing in the news and, uh, uh, Malcolm Jamal Warner for some of the
00:34:43.320
people who grew up in the eighties, he was, uh, uh, played one of the kids on the, the
00:34:48.440
He was only 54, got caught by a rib, top riptide and drowned the other day.
00:34:53.640
Uh, sad, you know, he's certainly not at the iconic status of, of Ozzy, but unfortunately,
00:34:58.740
you know, if nobody's going to remember this guy's passing because Ozzy sort of covered
00:35:08.860
So here's where people maybe they can argue and differ with me, but there's a push from
00:35:13.560
the liberals in the Senate, uh, to lower the voting age to 16 as they've done in the UK.
00:35:26.880
It's not that I don't want younger people engaged, but I don't think, you know, in Canada,
00:35:31.980
you can't be bound by a contract until you're 18 by law because you're a minor.
00:35:37.380
It's been determined that you're just not, and I know it varies kid by kid.
00:35:41.700
There's probably some 16 year olds who were far more mature and advanced and think of
00:35:47.280
And, uh, but there's also some 16 year olds who, you know, for a while they were snorting
00:35:51.860
condoms because of tick tock trends, they can wait two more years to vote.
00:35:58.340
And there's the saying, and I think it's been attributed to a few, but I think it's
00:36:02.280
Churchill who said, but if at 20, you're not a socialist, you have no heart.
00:36:07.980
If at 30, you're still a socialist, you have no brain.
00:36:11.900
Socialists understand this and they need more people with no brains to be able to vote and
00:36:17.300
And that's why they want to lower the age to 16.
00:36:24.100
It shows a bit of the dorkiness of what I am too.
00:36:26.660
I moved to Calgary from Banff when I was 17, finished school and just got, got out.
00:36:30.860
I was eager to start on my own, got an apartment with a roommate and, uh, the landlady, just
00:36:36.720
because we were living on our own, had an apartment.
00:36:40.300
So when I was out working and the, uh, enumerators came around, there was a hero.
00:36:45.380
Lo and behold, I got home and there was a voter's card back in the 88 election for me to vote.
00:36:56.820
So I proudly marched down and cast my ballot for the NDP.
00:37:07.440
A politically engaged guy more so than your average kid at 17 and so on.
00:37:11.820
Because I didn't, I had, I was politically inclined.
00:37:17.020
I felt I wanted to cast a ballot, but I really hadn't studied politics well enough yet to make
00:37:24.960
And I know there's older people who still vote for socialists.
00:37:26.900
That's because some people stay stupid until the grave, but most people grow out of it.
00:37:31.760
So why do hard left parties want to lower the age to 16?
00:37:36.040
They want the people who don't understand the problems with a high taxation system.
00:37:43.100
They aren't ready to grasp that everything comes with a price.
00:37:49.940
That takes the reality check of having to pay your bills, of personal responsibility.
00:37:55.440
And most people between 16 and 18 haven't reached that point yet.
00:37:58.880
So no, most of them aren't going to give an informed vote.
00:38:05.540
I want more participation, but I want an informed participation.
00:38:09.680
That's where I kind of differed with Lindsay when she talked about, you know, having mandatory
00:38:16.440
I want people to choose to get up and vote, even if they vote left wing or choose a vote
00:38:23.140
But I want them to get up and feel it's their bloody duty.
00:38:29.160
I don't want them to do it because they have a gun to their head.
00:38:32.540
If you're too lazy, too indifferent to get up and vote, then don't vote.
00:38:39.220
I want more people voting, but I want them to do it because they choose to.
00:38:42.860
That's the only way to have a proper democracy.
00:38:46.860
More and more people are becoming apathetic, indifferent, and it's not good for us.
00:38:52.120
But with the Liberals pushing to lower the voting age, we're already locked in with a
00:39:05.420
We went from Justin Trudeau, who managed to lower support for the Liberals to historic
00:39:13.840
And all they had to do was flip out that moron of a leader and stick somebody else in.
00:39:32.520
It doesn't always break the way you want it to.
00:39:34.340
So that's part of why we have regional differences in this country.
00:39:38.660
And that's a whole separate rant, you know, as to why I think independence is going to be
00:39:46.320
Another big thing in the news right now, Tamara Leach, Chris Barber.
00:39:51.240
The sentencing is coming up on the longest trial, longest mischief trial in Canadian history.
00:40:01.140
And the prosecutors are asking for seven years for Tamara Leach and eight years for Chris Barber
00:40:12.780
This is where we get into political prisoners rather than people who committed crimes.
00:40:24.300
And I was getting to that point towards the end of the convoy protest where I felt it's
00:40:37.500
I do believe it led to the point of eventually the government was going to have to intervene
00:40:42.060
and move them out of there if they wouldn't move on their own.
00:40:45.400
Every protest has to have a point and it has to have an exit strategy.
00:40:50.660
Those are two elements of a successful protest if you're going to have it.
00:40:53.740
I've done protests, but you've got to have a reason.
00:40:59.240
But they overreacted with Stompy the Horse, with the Emergencies Act, and all of those
00:41:06.740
Now, if it went into the point of going to court and they still feel, I mean, that's
00:41:11.000
for the lawyers to talk about, the Leach and Barber still encourage things to the point
00:41:23.660
Well, they both spent combined months in custody without bail.
00:41:29.640
That's a lot of time in jail already for mischief.
00:41:33.100
What's being served by giving them seven or eight more years in jail?
00:41:36.380
Well, I mentioned it on the pipeline because we talked about that today when we taped that
00:41:45.380
And this is where we're talking about priorities of justice, right?
00:41:48.740
A mother and father, and they're at the sentencing stage right now, tortured their 18-month-old
00:42:01.520
Our federal prosecutors see that crime as being on par with Chris Barber's mischief.
00:42:10.560
Will we be more peaceful if Barber and Leach get long prison sentences?
00:42:22.780
Like, the judge has to take these things into account, too, when choosing your sentence.
00:42:26.240
Is it making us a safer society, a better society?
00:42:29.260
I think the behavior of Chris and Tamara over the last few years, where they've been out
00:42:35.640
on bail as the courts move as grossly slowly as they do for years, have they been trying
00:42:50.680
If they were standing out there with bullhorn saying, let's go clog up the streets with another
00:42:55.380
convoy in Ottawa tomorrow, okay, I can see a problem.
00:42:57.660
And I can see where they're going to say, we've got, you guys haven't learned yet.
00:43:01.700
You're going to have to spend some more time to figure that out.
00:43:17.760
And the justice system shouldn't be based on vengeance.
00:43:22.940
I mean, people talk about a punitive aspect to it, too.
00:43:25.320
No, I don't think, for one, punishment doesn't seem to work that well.
00:43:30.120
I mean, incarceration alone is enough to do so typically.
00:43:34.480
But, you know, I don't believe in beating prisoners or keeping them in cold concrete cells.
00:43:39.200
I don't believe they should be in luxury circumstances either.
00:43:42.920
But what you're also going to do is martyr them.
00:43:49.380
You're going to inflame the activists who support them.
00:43:53.580
And there are some who tend to, some are way over on the fringe.
00:44:00.820
And if you go and make an example of Chris and Tamara and put them in for extended periods in jail, what do you think the harder activists are going to do?
00:44:13.140
Do you think they're going to be less inclined to hold big protests, to clog things up?
00:44:22.980
Now, throwing my guess out, Nigel felt the same way when we talked about that in the show, Nigel Hannaford.
00:44:27.920
I think, you know, despite what the prosecutor's asking for, what's probably going to happen, the judge, they've already been found guilty, will offer a sentence of a couple of years each and then suspend the sentence to say, you know, don't do it again.
00:44:44.680
You've served this much time and it's finished.
00:44:49.360
But if they give them a long sentence, well, for one, you know, it's going to be appealed.
00:44:57.080
Nothing will be served aside from a vengeful punishment of people who have committed the crime of embarrassing that dingbat of a leader that we had for almost 10 years named Justin Trudeau,
00:45:06.560
who really took what was a peaceful and controllable protest and managed to inflame it into an absolute gong show.
00:45:15.580
And all he really had to do was come out and listen to him a couple of times.
00:45:18.060
No, they wouldn't have broken up if he came out and listened a couple of times.
00:45:21.300
But at least go through the motions of saying, I understand your concerns.
00:45:25.520
But instead, he went straight to the Emergency Act because he's a weak-willed, wimp, authoritarian piece of garbage who history will not smile upon.
00:45:38.820
You know, Leach and Barber are not criminals who are going to put our country at harm.
00:45:43.120
And let's just hope that the judge shows some wisdom when it comes to the sentencing in the next few days.
00:45:48.200
Probably have a sentence by the time I do the next show and we can talk about that.
00:46:03.480
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