Western Standard - CORY MORGAN SHOW： Angry white militant separatists armed to the teeth!

00:00:00.000 Good day, welcome to the Cory

00:00:29.760 Morgan show on a nice chilly day coming out of Calgary live moving towards the holiday season

00:00:35.860 to see somebody's went and stuck little snowflakes on the glass and the window behind me in the

00:00:39.980 studio here so we're looking all festive like uh so the politics haven't stopped despite the

00:00:45.400 holidays approaching lots going on provincially federally lots of stuff to rant about which I

00:00:50.520 will in a moment the show is live for those tuning in so hey use that comment scroll send questions

00:00:55.540 my way uh to each other just try to remain somewhat civil we can always fight on x later on I got a

00:01:01.620 guest coming on it's going to be a great chat his name's uh Rob Louie and he runs an advocacy group

00:01:06.820 pushing for uh accountability on the you know leadership among indigenous bands and uh yeah

00:01:13.400 it's quite a task he's taken on but it's appreciated because they really need it so uh we see Wayne

00:01:18.120 there saying uh you're supposed to get 12 inches of snow and billy so there things can be worse

00:01:23.640 enjoy that down there all right so let's get on to what I'm going to get on about I made the title

00:01:29.260 nice and non-inflammatory today about angry white militant separatists armed to the teeth so I mean

00:01:34.560 normally you know usually the best course of action when it comes to uh anything with disgraced

00:01:39.340 former Redford era MLA Thomas Lukasik is just to ignore him unfortunately we have to pay attention

00:01:45.520 to him now he's gone from being a vain ineffective has-been desperately seeking it seeking attention

00:01:51.160 to being a dangerously irresponsible voice trying to inflame division among Albertans

00:01:56.060 so in an opinion piece written by Donna Kennedy Glanz in the National Post Lukasik's quoted making

00:02:02.420 statements about Alberta independent supporters which could cause some irreparable rifts across

00:02:07.480 the country and not only that but Lukasik's apparently been taking this uninformed pap before

00:02:12.100 the Liberal government and if they take his inflammatory rambling seriously they could make moves

00:02:16.620 against Alberta based on a perceived threat to national security so let's break down Lukasik's

00:02:21.520 words he described Albertan independent supporters and this is his words as a very small group of angry

00:02:27.780 militant men armed to their teeth well to begin with support for independence in Alberta is polling

00:02:34.080 consistently around 30 percent so that's one and a half million people and growing to dismiss that

00:02:38.240 as being very small is insulting and dead wrong and they're hardly all men of course either how dare 0.76

00:02:44.240 Thomas misgender so many people more disturbing though is his claim that independent supporters

00:02:49.000 are armed to the teeth I mean yeah lots of Albertans responsibly own firearms but they don't do so

00:02:54.500 you know disproportionately to the rest of the country in fact Albertans are fourth in Canada

00:02:58.080 for firearms per capita when compared to other provinces and territories Canada itself is the

00:03:02.780 seventh most armed civilian population on the planet though the Liberals don't like to be

00:03:06.960 reminded of that so why is Lukasik saying we're armed to the teeth well Lukasik obviously used the

00:03:12.180 word militant he's trying to make the case that an armed insurrection is building up within the

00:03:16.600 province of Alberta I mean the claim is laughable but it has to be taken seriously because this is

00:03:22.940 what Lukasik apparently has been telling Prime Minister Carney's government in meetings Thomas claims

00:03:27.280 to have attended this is his words Lukasik said I met with Prime Minister the Prime Minister's office

00:03:32.560 and with the Federal Caucus and with most of the Senate last week and he asserts he's going to be

00:03:36.920 heading out east to meet with the government again next week now he says he's warned the government

00:03:41.940 that a growing independent movement presents a national security issue and here's his words

00:03:46.920 again here are issues that need to be dealt with immediately because we can't have a segment of

00:03:51.240 the population that is angry what does he mean having the federal government deal with this issue

00:03:56.760 when making the case that there's a national security issue with an armed insurrection building

00:04:01.920 up and that the government is dealing with it must deal with it stands to reason he's asking for the

00:04:06.420 federal government to intervene within Alberta possibly a force this is a dangerous road to go on to say

00:04:10.920 the least Alberta's independence movement has been nothing but peaceful there's no better way though

00:04:15.160 to make a peaceful situation take it and make it tense than bring a military presence into an area

00:04:19.740 and try and stifle political organization of course Lukasik had to play the race card too he said in any

00:04:25.760 country you can't have a large cohort of angry white men what's he proposing here there's a certain

00:04:32.020 tipping point of white men allowed to take part in politics when he's advising the federal government

00:04:36.920 that they apparently can't allow this what exactly does he think they're supposed to do

00:04:41.060 and step in the independence movement is much more diverse than Lukasik is painting it of course but

00:04:45.360 does Ottawa know that Lukasik's bending the ears of the Laurentian elites with incarnese government they

00:04:50.660 rarely venture west of Thunder Bay to slum it with the unwashed western Canadians their version of 1.00

00:04:56.580 is of a province vision is of a province populated by living caricatures of Yosemite Sam running around

00:05:02.540 firing six guns into the air while women are chained in the kitchens in modest Amish style dresses and

00:05:08.320 actually Thomas went after religion too but he didn't use Amish he said the independence movement

00:05:12.160 here's his words again sort of evangelical Mormon oil and gas industry flavor to it chose carefully as

00:05:19.320 only about 0.1 percent of Ontarians identify as Mormons that way he'll be unchecked as he implies

00:05:24.800 the independence movement may be controlled by some shadowy strange religious sect that nobody out

00:05:29.360 there's familiar with oil and gas types are apparently a danger to be countered as well

00:05:33.780 one can hope that the powers that be in Ottawa dismiss Lukasik as the crank that he is if they

00:05:39.460 take him seriously though some actions could come from Ottawa that may antagonize this peaceful movement

00:05:44.300 into creating the kind of anger he claims is there and then that's likely his intent he wants to

00:05:49.280 provoke disorder to justify government intervention if Lukasik truly wanted to fight the Alberta independence

00:05:55.100 movement he would be speaking to Albertans rather than in Ottawa wouldn't he he understands though

00:05:59.780 that Albertans at large still have no use for him and he's hoping to find political favor in the east

00:06:04.220 if anything his endorsement of federalism would increase Albertan support for independence his

00:06:09.300 self-serving political game though guys it is dangerous very dangerous and yeah if anything's

00:06:14.340 got to be countered it's that crazed nutcase going to Ottawa and claiming to speak on our behalf 0.98

00:06:18.300 all right that's what's got me going today how's it going here good you're buffering badly that's

00:06:23.460 what I'm seeing on the comments sorry guys I don't know what's bad internet going on I guess uh there's

00:06:27.300 not much I can do about that would yell it tell us maybe Derek didn't pay the bill that could be well

00:06:31.920 then we wouldn't be on at all yes that's a good point so top of the season to you you got the

00:06:35.620 uh got your Christmas shopping done oh I don't really do much for Christmas shopping I'm cheap

00:06:39.920 bugger when it comes to that oh yes that's right yes well my kids are at the age now where they

00:06:44.760 just can't you they just get cash yeah so let's see that's the easiest way nobody's ever bothered

00:06:49.560 with that got the grandson's first Christmas so oh yeah well that'd be nice so yeah we're going

00:06:54.980 into the deep chill tomorrow eh yes minus 20 plus yeah you've got a river flowing through your your

00:07:01.760 acreage your your compound rebound on it yeah does it uh does it freeze over can you go skating

00:07:07.000 uh it does freeze over I don't know about skating on it we have a rink nearby though

00:07:11.020 if I went skating it's a sad sad sight that is I am not a skater oh well oh well as you said it's

00:07:17.920 the news isn't stopping just because it's getting uh Christmas time the uh the recall train is going

00:07:23.480 on and uh three more recalls have been certified including the premier uh Daniel Smith so I think

00:07:29.560 that brings 18 20 is it 20 now I just saw another update oh just they're happening as I've been in here

00:07:35.340 yeah so I guess that would be 19 UCP and one NDP yeah so yeah well and you know and I know that

00:07:41.240 none of them will amount to anything no the only question is whether they're going to let these

00:07:45.300 guys run around and waste their time trying to get signatures in this weather to invoke recalls

00:07:50.300 that won't happen or if finally the government's just going to come in and shut down the process

00:07:53.940 which is a shame because you know it has some merit potentially but uh the unions have decided we

00:07:57.940 shouldn't have it yeah not the way it's being used now uh you remember a comedian Ben Bankus was in

00:08:03.600 town recently and uh he had his show cancelled and he had to find another venue well the same

00:08:08.760 thing has happened to him in Ontario uh Sault Ste. Marie facility has cancelled him and we've got an

00:08:14.220 exclusive interview uh with the man himself on on what he plans to do next uh Peter Guthrie MLA for

00:08:23.900 uh former UCP MLA until he was given the boot for complaining over the uh the uh procurement scandal

00:08:31.460 he is the new leader of the Alberta party so the Alberta party has a seat in the legislature now Cory

00:08:37.520 well that's how they typically get seats in the legislature for till the next election till the next

00:08:42.940 election and then they're dealt with uh Bill 9 passed in the wee wee hours of uh this morning uh that's

00:08:49.100 a bill that uh uh UCP are using the notwithstanding clause to get through it uh bans uh bans trans from

00:08:56.540 women's sport it uh provides uh parents have to be told if their kids changing a pronoun at school and

00:09:05.260 it bans uh gender or surgery on uh on children under 18. I've got a teacher in Edmonton Cory and I'm going to

00:09:12.780 look at this school just so I don't mispronounce it it's Hilwee Hemden school he has been charged with

00:09:19.580 multiple counts of child exploitation for having a two-year online uh conversation with a student that

00:09:27.660 that he's got under there and the creepy thing is it's uh it's a grade kindergarten to grade nine school

00:09:34.620 so it could have started when the poor kid was in grade seven so that's not a good situation uh BC

00:09:42.140 conservative MLA Carrie Lynn Finley has become the first to throw her hat into the ring to replace

00:09:48.460 hosted leader John Rustad and that's going to be a fascinating race it will you know they've really

00:09:53.820 got to figure out who they are and this race is going to exactly rumors that Aaron Gunn is going to

00:09:59.180 go for it and you know what it wouldn't surprise me to see uh Mr Rustad himself uh threw his hat into

00:10:05.020 the ring well he certainly didn't want to let go of the job no uh if he could win it that way

00:10:09.420 I guess you know shut them up it would certainly make it interesting I thought about you uh when

00:10:14.780 I we did this story this morning and the headline is bah humbug and Angus Reid poll shows a significant

00:10:22.140 number of Canadians are struggling this this Christmas season and uh and are having trouble

00:10:28.220 and uh this will come as a shocker to you Corey the deputy head of the department of industry admitted he

00:10:35.020 lied lied lied when he uh told MPs about the uh the 15 billion dollars Stellantis deal uh for a battery

00:10:43.580 factory that will never be built lied Corey imagine that a federal official lying unheard of on well

00:10:49.820 admitting it yeah well I guess maybe that's a sign too that you know they don't face any consequences

00:10:54.140 oh no either so no and he'll get his Christmas bonus on Friday and go home very happy some Stellantis people

00:10:59.980 are pretty happy too just uh yeah it's just us who have to pay the bills yeah those 4 000 people who

00:11:05.740 were laid off not so happy no well well it's on the go and then federally uh the house of commons uh

00:11:12.060 there's been a lot of posturing with uh pipelines oh pipelines it was it was a attempt by the uh the

00:11:20.700 poly of uh Tories to embarrass the government basically yeah they know where to put into motion do you support

00:11:26.220 pipelines liberals said they're not going to support it because of a b and c poly of then amends the uh

00:11:32.540 the motion to include a b and c and the liberals still vote against it so uh it's uh it's sort of a

00:11:41.660 make-believe it's a man-made distraction elementary pissing that yeah exactly what it is so and it

00:11:48.780 takes the building of a pipeline in Alberta zero steps forward or backwards I guess yeah nothing's changed

00:11:55.020 I think those we speculate on whether they have any intent whatsoever getting that pipeline done or

00:11:59.820 not but they have no more or less of it today than they did yesterday exactly all right well it gives

00:12:05.020 us stuff to watch anyway so uh as we do march towards the closure of those legislatures in parliament and

00:12:10.860 the christmas season yeah we'll report on some bright stuff next week uh speaking of which next uh

00:12:15.660 next friday i leave so wednesday will be the uh last time you can give me the gift oh also yeah that's

00:12:23.260 why you're asking about whether i've been shopping yes it's just as you know such a specialized store

00:12:27.500 i'll i'll have to look harder to find exactly what you know if you got some leftover honey i'm sure my

00:12:31.420 mom will take it i'm certain i could find some of that there you go we're set right on thanks dave

00:12:35.980 you bet i'll talk to you after the show all right that is our news editor dave nailer you'll get another

00:12:41.820 dose of him today if you're watching the pipeline actually this evening he's going to be sitting on

00:12:46.620 with myself and nigel and we'll break down a few more of the issues and chat about those things

00:12:51.660 and yeah the the parliamentary games the politics it's kind of fun to watch for wonky folks like me

00:12:58.460 sometimes but as dave said it's not making a difference really uh it corners them i guess

00:13:05.820 it drives home the reality that this memorandum of understanding this thing about a pipeline

00:13:12.860 look if carney wants to get it done he has to say it he actually has to come out and say we're doing

00:13:18.780 it and he won't whenever he's cornered on it he utters a bunch of weasel words and then it goes and

00:13:24.460 runs away and hides when asked in parliament whether you guys support this thing they find

00:13:29.820 excuses and won't vote for it look when a government really wants to get things done we've seen that

00:13:35.580 they do it they just do it they'll find a way they will fast track things they will negotiate things

00:13:41.340 in a hurry they won't put out a big long piece of paper and have a signing and say it's going

00:13:46.300 to lead to something because it won't they're kicking the can down the road we've seen this

00:13:50.460 many many times what's quite surprising is that premier smith is taking part in the game

00:13:56.860 uh i guess she's got to try and remain optimistic and think that something can actually come about

00:14:00.940 from this you don't want to dismiss things out of hand but it's looking pretty darn bleak as far

00:14:06.700 as that goes we'll see we'll see so uh speaking of uh i guess political accountability and games

00:14:14.460 and so on uh for people not familiar with politics on the reserves in canada it is a special sort of

00:14:21.900 place uh they're very tight uh uh communities and they're very tight races and unfortunately there's

00:14:27.900 often been challenges with accountability and my next guest uh robert louis has been working hard

00:14:32.700 and uh helping represent indigenous band members seeking accountability from their band leadership

00:14:38.940 in a number of areas whether it's in elections or band governance and things like that and uh

00:14:43.980 he's running a group called band members alliance and advocacy association of canada so let's bring

00:14:48.860 mr louis on and uh see what he's been getting up to uh let's see there we go hello rob how you doing

00:14:55.660 good good morning cory yeah i appreciate you coming in you're down in the uh east kootenays i believe

00:15:03.660 aren't you i am i am i'm rob louis i'm the founder and president of the band members alliance and

00:15:12.220 advocacy association of canada it's quite a mouthful but so we use the acronym uh bmac yeah so uh i guess

00:15:20.940 you know i'll start me just with a bit of your own history uh what led to you becoming an

00:15:25.340 advocate for for this sort of thing great uh well if i were to uh rewind the tape i was um one of the

00:15:34.220 first uh band members to graduate from high school uh way back in 1990 uh i think there was like three

00:15:40.940 or four of us out of a generation of about 30 uh and i went on to uh pursue uh post-secondary studies

00:15:48.940 uh in other words i got off the res i went to the university of victoria university of british

00:15:53.500 columbia and york university respectively so i do hold a bachelor's of political science degree

00:16:00.220 a law degree and a master's in law degree specializing in constitutional law

00:16:05.900 okay and you took that uh you know education that hard work and and uh you're bringing it forth to

00:16:11.980 advocate on behalf of band members a particular episode brought you i guess into that rather than

00:16:16.620 say just uh going into divorce law or suing people for car accidents with easy money right right so i

00:16:23.900 was uh once a uh a legal practitioner i did practice um way back when at a criminal defense firm um and then

00:16:32.380 uh you know i'm also uh quite open in a general way about my being a recovering alcoholic so i do intend on

00:16:39.340 reapplying to the law society of british columbia in the new year uh to gain my license again and uh

00:16:45.740 that will uh certainly up the game but in the meantime for the last six years i have been uh shall

00:16:51.740 we say suing chiefs that have uh sticky fingers and uh are not above board with their uh band members

00:16:59.340 yeah so this has been kind of a you know almost an unforeseen consequence i would think i mean

00:17:04.860 the in the older days a long time ago this the situation was very patronizing bands kind of were

00:17:11.660 managed from outside the government really didn't allow bands to do much on their own

00:17:15.500 but they flipped over to a concept of self-government saying you know we want to let bands manage their

00:17:19.660 own affairs and take care of things but it seems it's led to a lack of oversight or accountability with

00:17:25.500 the funding so unfortunately if you get leadership that's unprincipled it can become very difficult to

00:17:31.420 track whether or not they've been properly managing resources yes and i did catch the tail end of

00:17:37.500 your uh previous um a guest and he mentioned you know federal officials uh stealing money and uh

00:17:44.780 awarding themselves christmas bonuses i thought only chiefs did that but i guess that happens in the

00:17:49.980 the mainstream too um yeah so uh you know it happens in politics fair enough uh well in the last six

00:17:58.940 years um since bmack was registered as a federal non-profit society and with the uh team of

00:18:07.100 different lawyers and law firms from british columbia alberta saskatchewan and ontario

00:18:11.820 uh i have come to know that i think it's fair to say that it's pretty evenly split wouldn't when it

00:18:17.580 comes to uh band uh integrity and band council accountability and what i mean by that is there

00:18:24.140 are a lot of good first nations out there that are doing the right thing but i would say the other

00:18:28.620 half um are not and it's those uh chiefs that we are uh looking to hold accountable uh we are right

00:18:36.780 now in uh four uh lawsuits and with the most recent one uh coming in the pakani uh nation uh down by

00:18:45.180 brock in alberta now that one isn't uh so much a financial matter but it's a case where we have a

00:18:50.540 female uh elected leader who was wrongfully removed from the council simply because she started asking

00:18:56.780 questions of the chief and her fellow councillors of their spending of bad money so not only did they

00:19:01.900 suspend her and then stripped her of her salary which effectively removed her um but they were

00:19:07.420 supposed to have a hearing on this and we've been waiting for it or she's been waiting for a year on 0.94

00:19:11.340 this so she finally reached out to us we got her lawyered up and i'm doing the prep work with

00:19:16.220 her and we're going to be filing in the federal court next week uh first of all to get her money back

00:19:20.860 her back pay and then to uh you know challenge this this really uh ridiculous uh process that they

00:19:27.500 have yeah well well that would be i guess you could say the equivalent of a mayor in a city kicking out

00:19:34.860 a council member that they don't uh agree with we mechanisms outside of the reserve that keeps that

00:19:40.940 from happening i mean they can fight with each other and do what they like but the mayor doesn't have

00:19:44.140 the authority to remove somebody uh what sort of oversight i mean in our case we could go to

00:19:51.420 elections alberta or bc you know elections bc or things like that but what is the authority when it

00:19:56.060 comes to band management well yeah you hit it right on the head and um you know you did mention that

00:20:02.700 a lot of the uh reserves are tight-knit that's true but we don't live in the harmony hut either so when

00:20:08.940 there is a band member that you know or band members uh that are calling for accountability

00:20:14.380 and transparency insofar as like we don't even we can't even see the freaking audit you know that's

00:20:20.380 a problem now let me put it this way to you uh corey if um if the prime minister or the premier or

00:20:26.380 even the mayor um suddenly rescinded a financial law that would govern or oversee uh elected officials

00:20:34.940 spending you know there's uh non-profits and organizations and law firms that will be lining

00:20:39.660 up around the corner to file against the premier or the prime minister or the mayor well in canada

00:20:45.100 there is no such organizations other than bmac that's able to do that so our the demand far exceeds

00:20:51.260 the capacity that we have right now so uh i just want to say just on that note too one last thing corey

00:20:57.660 is that we're actually in a case right now that was just heard in calgary federal court last week

00:21:03.420 uh bc case uh where the chief and council received uh 31 million dollars on behalf of the band and

00:21:10.940 and remind you this is a really small band of about 300 members uh at the lower kootenay indian band in

00:21:16.140 creston british columbia um they received 31 million dollars and instead of announcing it to the members

00:21:22.780 uh they went in camera uh the band council did and rescinded in other words cancelled out the financial

00:21:29.100 administration law that was governing this band for the last decade so you know go figure you get

00:21:34.380 a whack of money and suddenly why don't you not tell the members people that you serve but you're

00:21:39.820 suddenly uh operating in a legal vacuum yeah and and it it takes so much fighting i mean a case that

00:21:47.420 isn't one you've been working on i believe but we saw recently just since it came up in the news was

00:21:51.340 that frog lake uh uh reserve up there with uh hans mccarty and i mean what is it they were managing 102

00:21:57.580 million dollars since uh uh 2013 and messed it down all the way to nine million dollars but they

00:22:03.420 won't tell anybody what they spent it on and they won't disclose to the members what happened with it

00:22:07.740 uh he had to go to a battle to do this and you really shouldn't have to

00:22:12.380 well hans mccarthy is a friend of mine he did reach out to me and we did help him initially um and

00:22:18.060 the canadian taxpayers federation took over from there to help hands and yeah that was one of the

00:22:23.900 most egregious cases i've seen where yeah there's a hundred and uh initially 120 million but they

00:22:29.420 can only account for 102 million and yeah and then it dwindles down to like 17 million over 10 years

00:22:36.140 and what has mccarthy this is how what the federal government i think are complicit in the uh the i just

00:22:42.140 call it financial hanky-panky going on a lot of the reserves is because has mccarthy needed

00:22:47.980 the band council resolutions the paperwork on how that money was

00:22:53.900 taken from the feds and given to the band council uh but the feds would not cough up

00:22:59.980 or consent to releasing any information unless the chief and council consented so this was the case

00:23:05.660 where you know who the wrongdoer is you know what's wrong and the crimes that are well financial crimes

00:23:10.860 really that are being committed but you have to ask the perpetrator permission for you know to move

00:23:17.340 this ahead and that's uh i'm glad the federal court uh sided with the banner saying yeah you have the

00:23:22.540 right to these documents and the feds have to cough it up now yeah well so accountability goes a little

00:23:30.860 farther than just in the band councils and such i just noticed on your website and things that you

00:23:34.540 help represent band members with is also on police misconduct and abuse cases uh it was a specific

00:23:40.860 case that has led to having that uh listed on your uh services uh yeah so we have like essentially four

00:23:47.340 core areas um that case there so uh you we did receive a call for help about a year ago from a

00:23:54.300 blackfoot uh family where um an individual was shot um by the rcmp in grand forks british columbia

00:24:03.980 and um we basically we were claiming or this family was claiming that this was a wrongful shooting

00:24:11.260 and uh negligence so uh we're grateful to have uh some law firms that specialize in suing the police

00:24:18.300 one being murphy batista law firm out of vancouver um and so murphy batista is also doing a class action

00:24:25.900 uh against the rcmp for any abuse from i believe 1955 onwards so if indigenous people that were arrested

00:24:34.460 in the drunk tank you know holding cells if they were beat up or abused would qualify as a class member for

00:24:41.100 this um class action against rcmp so we we do help with those kind of cases um and then yeah if

00:24:47.580 there's you know aboriginal men or women getting beat up by the cops you know those days hopefully 1.00

00:24:52.700 be coming to an end um with our help but uh again we know that it happens it's just a matter of more

00:24:59.820 getting more capacity to help these people so going beyond the the media cases which is appreciated

00:25:06.860 uh what has to be done so that your services won't be needed like what are the you know we don't want

00:25:13.100 to say turn the clock back and take away all form of self-government or being able to manage their own

00:25:18.540 affairs on the reserves but at the same time it seems that we need some sort of outside oversight to make

00:25:23.820 sure that things are being managed well from the outside too how can that balance be found yeah no good

00:25:30.300 question corey uh but nothing makes me shudder more when i hear the word self-government um in my

00:25:37.260 personal and professional experience um that hasn't been a good news um for a lot of band members um

00:25:44.060 because the the chief and council um really don't have any uh impetus to follow the law unless a band

00:25:53.100 member challenges them so what we need to do uh first of all is i think uh folks uh i think should

00:26:01.020 get behind you know an organization like bmack we are the only game in town right now and i hope that

00:26:06.380 we can expand so our membership is open to the general public um if anyone wants to become a member

00:26:12.540 but also and i think equally important uh corey that there needs to be a a national ombudsperson

00:26:19.980 specifically for first nations people or an auditor general um to help with this uh the financial

00:26:27.100 accountability and oversight that you speak of because right now the there is good legislation

00:26:32.460 on the books it's called the first nation financial transparency act now stephen harper the conservative

00:26:38.620 government back in 2012 enacted that when justin trudeau came in a few years later he said well we're not

00:26:45.900 going to uh enforce it like stephen harper did and we're going to leave it to band members to uh

00:26:51.340 to uh you know to use it and pay out of their own pocket uh if they want to use the financial

00:26:56.140 transparency act and we say that's just morally and legally wrong so um yeah we need to have um some

00:27:02.780 sort of national um ombudsperson in place yeah well and as you put it out i mean if we see it

00:27:10.300 unfortunately everywhere it's a it's a an unfortunate aspect of human nature whether you know it's not

00:27:15.580 just a bad thing we we hear about as you said the start of this you know with solantis and so on

00:27:19.980 there's politicians unfortunately and some bureaucrats lining their pockets sometimes they're caught

00:27:24.140 sometimes they're not but if there's no means of accountability no means of oversight it's almost i

00:27:31.740 mean it's just inviting these sorts of problems well exactly exactly that and i think the difference is

00:27:38.540 that there's a lot more uh regulatory schemes um uh and uh organizations in the mainstream

00:27:46.460 to hold elected officials accountable at the municipal provincial and federal level there's

00:27:51.180 nothing whatsoever in place for first nations at the uh indigenous governance level what about

00:27:57.740 whistleblower protection i i i if uh you know i won't go into that rabbit hole of a separate issue i'm

00:28:02.780 having with the six ticket reserve for example but there's some people from in the the reserve have

00:28:06.620 been communicating with me uh which is great and they're sharing things but they're afraid to come

00:28:11.100 forward in person because they don't want to bring the wrath of the band leadership down upon themselves

00:28:15.820 and there's no protections for people if they speak out about the band management uh is there a way we

00:28:21.500 could perhaps you know protect people who have come out to speak yeah i know that another good question

00:28:28.220 uh corey whether there is or isn't uh like legislation to uh protect whistleblowers the inherent

00:28:35.820 problem is that a lot of the reserves uh including six account i would go so far to say um the members

00:28:43.020 live in a such a silo that um to use the analogy of you know the mafia you know if they speak out they

00:28:49.980 get whacked and by that um in the first nations context that means like you will not receive any

00:28:55.420 banned services uh you won't even get firewood for example these are cases that i've seen first first

00:29:00.300 found um or if you work at the band office um the uh the worst case is that you're fired uh without

00:29:08.220 procedural fairness the best case is well they won't find your paycheck on time you'll have to wait the

00:29:13.660 next week you know you have to wait around for a pay date so that's um that's really the the difference

00:29:19.900 that uh even with legislation corey um the problems run deeper than than that it's uh it's systemic

00:29:26.940 yeah well that's why it's it's important to have people like you you know there to stand up for

00:29:31.340 residents and citizens because they don't necessarily know how to play the legal or

00:29:34.540 political game unfortunately sometimes it's a game uh so before i let you go you know one more time

00:29:39.500 then with people whether they want to you know look about more about your organization or seeking

00:29:43.900 your help or want to support it where can they find you yeah corey so again it's um b mac is the

00:29:50.940 acronym b-m-a-a-a-c.org there's three a's in there if you type in two a's b-m-a-a you're going to go to

00:29:58.940 the black men's association of america so make sure folks type in three a's b-m-a-a-a-c.org and if you

00:30:06.140 want to become a member um it's all on there and thank you kindly for having me corey well i appreciate

00:30:11.340 you coming on to talk to us today and the work you're doing so uh thank you and uh i hope we can

00:30:15.820 speak again maybe some of your uh cases are getting settled okay and with that i wish you a

00:30:22.460 good day and uh to your audience um as well take care great thanks so yeah folks just you know one

00:30:29.900 more time uh so that's the band members alliance and advocacy association of canada or again if you

00:30:35.660 search out robert robert louis you'll find those sorts of things and and this this is what i like to

00:30:41.020 see more of rather than talking about more legislation more bureaucrats more uh you know

00:30:49.580 interference with people is maybe giving citizens more mechanisms to be able to speak up for

00:30:54.700 themselves as rob was saying the situation is different on the reserve you're in a community

00:30:59.660 where you are quite controlled in many senses by a band council and chief and and if you rock the

00:31:05.980 boat too much it can bring consequences that we we don't have to deal with off-reserve we don't

00:31:10.540 understand it's not the same out here and uh when you've got the reserve sometimes being the sole

00:31:16.460 source of employment or as you said or if you're on one where the reserve manages delivering your

00:31:20.860 firewood they might sound like petty things but if you're relying on firewood to heat your house

00:31:25.660 it's a pretty big problem when suddenly you're not getting it so having some advocates come up and

00:31:31.660 speak like that is really really important and it's it's good to see uh rob doing these sorts of

00:31:36.700 things you know consider supporting these guys because the answer isn't always more government

00:31:40.220 it's sometimes just empowering the people on the ground more so they can stand up to government and

00:31:44.620 you got to remember band and council the council in chief are actually government it's just another

00:31:48.700 level of it so adding another overseer might not be the the way to but there does have to as he brought

00:31:55.180 up it was just an invitation for problems when trudeau turned back and and stopped the financial

00:32:01.740 oversight that steven hartford brought in and it's it's not a racial thing every place every business

00:32:08.940 on reserve or off reserve every level of government on reserve off reserve has to have some kind of

00:32:13.340 oversight i mean you've got to have some third party look and say okay these books are good these

00:32:18.780 expenditures are correct these actions are right it's not being patronizing it's not being overbearing

00:32:24.700 is being applying common sense and we don't see that a lot unfortunately so uh you know check them

00:32:31.740 out guys uh there's there's just lots to go and i i do believe you know and you've heard me on the

00:32:37.020 show many times so it's one of my bigger areas our biggest policy failures are our most embarrassing

00:32:41.500 policy failures is the whole indigenous system in general where we've got all of these people in in in 1.00

00:32:47.740 such um difficult circumstances on reserves all over the country because of poor management i i

00:32:54.620 sometimes as well meaning with the policies they brought in sometimes it wasn't but it's it's

00:32:58.140 just turned into a unfortunately a mess and it's just really arming people all around so yeah speaking

00:33:03.340 of crazy politics then let's get back a little more closer to home peter guthrie uh dave mentioned him

00:33:08.540 he's the mla for up in uh airdrie area he left uh he the the party sometime back as dave said over a

00:33:16.860 beef over the health care thing with premier smith but he's been just kind of a chronic oppositional

00:33:21.740 type on the sidelines ever since him and another mla from up in slave lake and now they've decided 0.77

00:33:26.860 they're taking over the alberta party and i i gotta laugh about this they wanted to bring about the

00:33:32.540 name again of progressive conservatives so they wanted to resurrect the allison redford party that

00:33:37.980 albertans you know we're sick and tired of but he can't get the name now there's some political

00:33:43.180 maneuvering on the part of the the united conservative party to stop that and everything else

00:33:48.380 but now he's taken over the alberta party the alberta party has turned itself kind of into a

00:33:52.220 receptacle for embittered politicians that are on the out uh that's you know there's one time they

00:33:58.860 elected a member they actually elected one other times they've had members on and off throughout the

00:34:03.020 years but as soon as an election comes around they just get obliterated they you watch though i'm

00:34:09.100 going to make my prediction for legacy media because they love the alberta party because the alberta

00:34:13.180 party is just the liberal party with a coat of paint on it and because the liberals can't win in

00:34:17.660 alberta under the name liberal and they are going to pump the tires of peter guthrie's little alberta

00:34:24.620 party because they do that every time they do that every election with every new leader of the alberta

00:34:28.140 party just comes and goes and fails the legacy media will give them all sorts of interviews all sorts of

00:34:34.140 oxygen all sorts of time hoping to turn them into something and then they'll just get wiped out in the

00:34:38.940 election but whatever that's democracy mr guthrie certainly has the means to do it but politically

00:34:44.300 organizing wise we'll see i just saw him post on x before the show started and he said something

00:34:50.860 along he's still calling it the pc movement of alberta so he's trying to call it both

00:34:54.860 progressive conservative and alberta party it's just going to confuse things for himself and make

00:35:00.860 it difficult uh let's get into some divisive politics things have been going on in the independence

00:35:05.580 movement in alberta because it's really been getting inflamed it's really been moving along uh the

00:35:10.540 the the the reality that if anything's been proven by premier smith now that bill 14 came in for non

00:35:16.700 alberta's people uh uh aware of it it's you know she brought about the the referendum legislation 0.96

00:35:23.980 unfortunately they messed up that legislation allowing the electoral officer to punt it into

00:35:28.220 the courts and drag it out to try and have a referendum on independence so now they brought bill 14

00:35:35.100 say okay we're changing that so that we will control uh you know what which keep it from going

00:35:41.020 to the courts being thrown that way basically takes it out of the hands of the chief electoral officer

00:35:45.740 there's going to be a referendum they wouldn't invest this much political capital go into this

00:35:51.740 much grief bush this far ahead if they didn't want to see a referendum and some people saying yeah but

00:35:58.060 she's got a smith has to come out and say she wants independence no she doesn't she wasn't elected on 1.00

00:36:02.060 that we've got to stop that stupid talk got to stop that stupid talk if you're an independent 1.00

00:36:07.260 supporter tell the other independent supporters who keep pissing around in the party politics to cut 1.00

00:36:12.140 it out there's going to be a referendum within a year focus on that because there's not enough

00:36:19.020 support to win a referendum right now for independence not even close i don't care what

00:36:22.700 people want to say i speak optimistically of it i'm pushing for it i want that number to change

00:36:27.180 i want to see a yes vote i've never made a secret of that but if you're dedicating all your resources

00:36:32.860 to fighting with each other and fighting with premier smith and just fighting with anybody who

00:36:37.500 comes with an eyesight of you and people i think know which person i'm talking about who represents

00:36:42.460 one of the larger independence groups out there you're wasting a whole bunch of energy that could

00:36:48.460 be dedicated to a referendum and then some of the people who follow each are fighting with each

00:36:52.780 other and wasting more energy that can be dedicated to a referendum just focus on the bloody referendum

00:37:01.900 quit shooting and complaining and fighting with each other as you've got a bigger battle to do guys

00:37:08.620 and it's just getting absurd so uh let's see uh we'll go through some of these other news items

00:37:17.420 oh yeah this is an interesting one you know the president of the national police federation some

00:37:23.180 of the people are starting to see the quiet part out loud and i'm happy to hear that he said canada's

00:37:28.620 experienced an increase in violent crime in recent years while also noting rising immigration numbers 0.99

00:37:36.860 yes now it's not fully blaming every crime on immigrants no don't worry we got plenty of homegrown 0.77

00:37:41.900 criminals and losers who were born here as well as others come in but there's no doubt when we bring 1.00

00:37:49.420 in mass immigration that's the word that we got to start using correctly anyways mass immigration most 0.94

00:37:55.420 common sense people aren't opposed to all immigration no import immigration when managed properly

00:38:02.220 is a benefit to all of us benefit to all of us but we you have to manage it you have to say where do we

00:38:08.220 need people what categories of people do we need how many people can this area absorb properly so

00:38:16.060 everybody is settled things like that we haven't been doing that at all trudeau just opened the

00:38:20.460 floodgates it's been a decade of mass immigration and crime is one of the areas that's been a consequence 1.00

00:38:27.260 of course the other one is our health care has been overwhelmed our housing was overwhelmed our schools

00:38:31.740 were overwhelmed this didn't take a political scientist to figure out you've got this many services

00:38:36.380 and you're bringing this much demand you're going to overwhelm it and it's overwhelming our prison

00:38:41.740 and police services as well but the thing that's different right now is seeing some senior officials

00:38:48.780 daring to utter it because of course you're always afraid to question immigration because you're going 0.77

00:38:52.140 to get called the r word you know that's coming along we saw thomas lukasic i mean it's just white 0.76

00:38:56.460 guys out there that are upset right but that's the way it goes they're losing that fear because

00:39:01.900 we just have to say it now you know it's it's undeniable it's problematic it's uh out of control

00:39:10.620 and then you know admitting the problem is the first step in moving towards a solution

00:39:15.420 i don't think canada as a whole is going to solve it but alberta sure can you know i'm going to talk a

00:39:21.260 little bit something i saw recently uh when we're talking about courts supreme court all of that which

00:39:26.780 again we have our judges writing our laws and so essentially activist judges we got some serious

00:39:30.940 problems in canada with our levels of government i talk about switzerland often because i like their

00:39:36.060 model as decentralized government very uh disempowered federal government with a more of a

00:39:42.700 council that shares terms as president but the other thing is their supreme court it's nothing like ours

00:39:50.460 and it's their judges are elected for six-year terms by the federal assembly so elected people and

00:39:57.660 then elected not appointed by a single person like we have in canada and then they hear appeals from

00:40:03.820 the cantonal court's administrative rulings but the real neat part is the supreme court can't comment

00:40:09.500 on law put forward by parliament yeah it's not their rule you don't have their supreme court over

00:40:17.580 ruling or commenting or dealing with the laws that come from parliament they're there for other issues

00:40:23.340 and it says that rule is assumed by the people which acts as a guardian and can repeal any

00:40:27.100 legislation or constitutional change because they have referendum and uh recall legislation in

00:40:32.460 switzerland i don't know what we call they got referendum legislation very strong referendum

00:40:36.620 legislation they aren't abusing it here as the unions in alberta are you put the power into the people's

00:40:42.300 hands and over there they've taken it out of the courts because that was something interesting

00:40:47.340 too that the temper tantrum that the the judge had the judge who had ruled that an independence

00:40:54.220 referendum in alberta would be unconstitutional because the legislation came along and said well

00:40:59.900 fine whatever but we're gonna hold one anyway and that's more the attitude alberta's gonna have 1.00

00:41:03.260 in here we're just gonna do it i'm not asking just gonna do it i don't care what you think but he

00:41:09.260 was pretty ticked because you know he thought it was his role to decide whether or not we're allowed to

00:41:13.580 have one and it was taken away from him so he just uh shot at things in general you know what

00:41:17.500 you're there to be a judge not to offer political opinion actually i know it's a fine line to talk

00:41:22.300 between the two but uh either way i'm just saying as we start the uh mental deliberations on um

00:41:32.940 what a post-independence system would potentially look like i like looking at the swiss and we're moving

00:41:39.020 towards it uh commenter 86 saying the whole westminster system is fundamentally flawed because

00:41:43.260 it promotes winning elections over serving the people in the best way possible yeah it's just uh

00:41:48.460 the westminster system is you know superior to the feudal system that it sort of evolved out of it was

00:41:55.420 better than that but it's not a good modern system that gets back to the whole basis of the independence

00:42:01.740 thing this is a broken system we're swirling the drain the deficits are getting higher the debt

00:42:06.220 we're shutting in our own resources because the leaders are all playing political games rather

00:42:10.140 than actually looking at what is best for the country as a whole and uh regions are getting shut

00:42:15.580 out of developing themselves it's got to fall apart and it's going to but uh it's just a matter how and

00:42:21.900 when uh this stuff speaking of quebec you know something i posted on next this is something independent

00:42:27.820 supporters should be doing and i mean it i mean it politely in a sense and honestly i fully support the

00:42:33.900 full independence of quebec from the federation of canada why not of course i do go for it let us

00:42:40.060 help them and there's a the pq is in position to win a majority government if they can get election

00:42:46.940 for the first time in a long long time and they're doing it on the promise of holding a referendum

00:42:50.540 i wholeheartedly want them to win and i want them to hold a referendum it's going to be a year before

00:42:55.340 they hold election a little less than a year and of course a referendum will take a little longer but

00:42:58.780 boy this country is coming to a head guys we can't save all of it not under the system but we can

00:43:04.700 save parts of it as we go and then uh who knows what the pq wants to do try and fix things over

00:43:09.420 there something that's going to make their job a little easier this just came out quebec's anti

00:43:12.940 corruption squad and yeah there's a busy department in quebec uh is opening an investigation into the

00:43:19.020 quebec liberal party itself and uh uh pablo rodriguez uh said that an investigation is underway

00:43:26.780 you know and he's hoping they'll get to the bottom of it now pablo rodriguez you might remember

00:43:31.180 was part of the trudeau government and he moved over to head the liberals either way

00:43:34.460 those provincial liberals are trying to run against the pq for next year this investigation their ties

00:43:41.180 would appear to be uh you know with corruption going on with them is not going to help them in

00:43:46.540 the election very much so the chances of the pq winning uh quebec become all the stronger let's keep

00:43:52.780 watching that on top of that you know again canada's mess uh there's another article a growing wave

00:43:58.460 of cargo transport truck and trailer theft thefts have been hitting uh canada costing industry and 0.54

00:44:03.340 consumers millions of dollars uh you know constantly yes again because our political cowards in ottawa

00:44:10.060 have allowed the teamsters and the longshoremen's union to own the ports and the trucking facilities

00:44:17.020 and we've got organized crime infiltrating those areas we don't check containers we don't track stuff

00:44:23.340 it's not just the smuggling that goes through there but stuff gets targeted for theft as well

00:44:28.140 why because canada is broken those are areas again where federal oversight is supposed to happen but

00:44:33.420 they don't do it they don't do their job they're busy just uh navel gazing here as the commenter said

00:44:38.140 just doing all they can to get reelected and not really looking at what they have to do to run this

00:44:42.620 country it's uh annoying and frightening time in some ways but i'm looking at it with optimism

00:44:48.700 we keep pushing things we can't save it all as i said but we can save part of it and we're moving

00:44:53.260 closer and closer towards it so stop fighting each other look around your own area see what you can do 0.90

00:45:00.380 and for you guys who want independence just look at the referendum don't worry about the jackasses who 0.51

00:45:05.260 want to just keep fighting with everybody including the provincial government they're giving you the

00:45:08.860 mechanism all right guys like i said be sure to tune in to the pipeline tonight it's going to be

00:45:14.140 dave and nigel haniford myself breaking down a few more issues and chatting on some of those

00:45:19.180 and uh subscribe to all those western standard channels share them all of that we will talk

00:45:24.140 about the issues like immigration and such that the other outlets are too cowardly to cover

00:45:27.740 and it's important we appreciate your support and uh i'll catch you next week at this time

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Western Standard - December 15, 2025

CORY MORGAN SHOW： Angry white militant separatists armed to the teeth!

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