Western Standard - October 31, 2025


CORY MORGAN SHOW: Bring on right to work legislation!


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In this episode of The Cory Morgan Show, Cory talks about his recent trip to Israel, the recent strike in Canada, and the need for Right-to-Work legislation in the wake of the ongoing strike in Alberta.

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00:00:00.000 good day welcome to the cory morgan show
00:00:30.000 oh it was nice to be gone but it's good to be back too boy no shortage of news breaking and
00:00:35.520 happening and going on in this uh time that i've been gone funny i only missed one show but it
00:00:40.320 feels like i've been gone forever i am back and thank you very much to lindsay wilson for filling
00:00:46.000 in even though she did dredge up that picture from my uh mullet covered history in the past but she
00:00:52.400 did a fantastic job filling in on here i always get a little self-conscious when somebody fills in
00:00:56.720 because people look and realize hey maybe maybe we can replace him with somebody better to look at
00:01:00.560 for these shows either way you're still stuck with me for now get over it so yeah we got a packed show
00:01:06.400 as always like i said so much breaking in the news so much going on i've got a guest coming on larry
00:01:11.600 maury's going to be on a little while these people are wondering what the heck were you doing over in
00:01:15.280 israel corey what's going on with that well let's just bring the founder of the exigent foundation on
00:01:21.200 to explain what was going on and why i went over there and and what these guys are up to because
00:01:26.320 unfortunately believe it or not a few of you folks out in my viewership and such are kind of a conspiracy
00:01:32.480 minded sort and i've been hearing some interesting things you know what let's just talk about things
00:01:36.640 in the open explain it there's no crazed zionist conspiracy it was a fantastic trip i learned a lot
00:01:42.240 and we will talk a lot about it all right let's start out about uh more domestic news for now though
00:01:48.240 strikes they've been crippling canada for years you know what it's time we had it out with the
00:01:52.080 unions they've become too empowered arrogant and greedy thanks to decades of governments pandering
00:01:56.640 to organized labor rather than reasonably and firmly negotiating with it canada's productivity
00:02:01.840 has been lagging and it's reflected in the sagging gdp per capita numbers it's also difficult to draw
00:02:06.640 domestic exp investment into domestic industries when unions are rampaging unchecked i mean the list of
00:02:12.480 damaging labor actions just in the last couple of years is long and ugly dock workers rail workers
00:02:17.680 airline workers federal civil servants postal workers so i see that worker all the time but
00:02:23.360 they don't work a hell of a lot it seems but they've all harmed the canadian economy
00:02:26.960 with only the postal workers not managing to garner big settlements for their actions
00:02:30.560 there isn't much that can be done on the federal front carney's averse to taking strong stances in
00:02:34.880 general as he tries to borrow canada into prosperity he hasn't the fortitude to battle with labor unions
00:02:41.200 legislation brought by the trudeau government banning replacement workers and federally
00:02:45.040 regulated industries has tipped the power so heavily into the union hands that payouts come
00:02:49.200 hard and heavy once a strike is threatened in alberta though we can change the balance of power
00:02:54.240 this province could fall in the footsteps of 27 american states and embrace right to work legislation
00:02:59.680 the right to organize with a union is an important one the right to choose not to participate in a
00:03:04.800 union must be entrenched as well though closed shops which force people to join a union whether they
00:03:09.520 like it or not are an affront to the right of free association and they empower unions far too much
00:03:15.040 the stranglehold on some industries in the and the public sector in general has to be broken and
00:03:20.800 there's no better way to do that than allow employees to choose giving employees the choice with union
00:03:25.600 membership forces unions to become competitive they'll suddenly have to be accountable to their
00:03:30.000 members who they take dues from and prove that they offer value to those employees members tired of
00:03:35.520 seeing a chunk of their wages being taken for from by a union to use in woke lobbying and taking
00:03:40.560 political stances unrelated to their workplace can opt out regions with right to work legislation see
00:03:46.720 economic benefits on all levels and the american example proves that over a 10-year average states
00:03:51.440 with the right to work legislation saw 10 private sector job growth while states without it saw 6.1
00:03:57.280 growth investment moves towards those states and industries not hamstrung by overpowered unions and
00:04:02.560 they're able to expand their operations real manufacturing gdb growth in the right to work
00:04:06.800 states was 18.4 percent in the non-right-to-work states it was 12.7 percent ontario with its ailing
00:04:14.640 manufacturing sector manufacturing sector should be keeping this in mind after-tax income growth in
00:04:19.680 right-to-work states was 21.3 percent versus 16.8 percent in states without it that's that's a big one
00:04:25.440 unions like to claim raises only come through union pressure yet in the states where employees have the
00:04:29.760 option to directly negotiate their own compensation the employees garner more money well at least the
00:04:34.720 competent ones do the reason they take home more after tax is because the state government can operate
00:04:39.600 more efficiently without being controlled by unions so they don't need to tax as much kansas and
00:04:44.640 missouri offer a great example they're right next to each other the cost of living is similar the median
00:04:49.040 household income in canvas kansas though where there's right to work legislation is thousands of
00:04:52.960 dollars a year higher than missouri which is right across the river the poverty rate in kansas is 11.1
00:04:57.920 percent very high but it's still lower than the 13.4 percent in missouri the stronger economy fostered
00:05:03.440 through employee empowerment with right to work legislation serves everybody states with right to
00:05:08.800 work legislation experience 48 fewer work days lost due to strikes employees make more money while
00:05:14.640 citizens are chronically held hostage with strikes everybody wins at least everybody aside from the 0.95
00:05:19.440 union executives who profit on labor unrest so in alberta gill mcgowan heads the alberta federation of
00:05:25.200 labor his organization takes a little bite out of the wages of almost every union member in the
00:05:29.200 province and he has guaranteed spots on the executive of the ndp gill's threatening a general strike
00:05:35.440 over the back to work legislation the ucp government just imposed on teachers he wants to punish
00:05:39.600 all albertans and keep the children from the schools while the strikes going on mcgowan's an old
00:05:44.640 school union tug a thug he isn't exactly nuanced or cerebral and he prefers conflict rather negotiation
00:05:51.440 so the picture you'll see when my column comes out and we've seen many times the western standard of
00:05:55.840 him getting in the face of one of reporters kind of demonstrates his nature let's indulge old gill
00:06:00.400 though dare him to have over 300 000 union members walk off the job in alberta let them show the
00:06:06.080 millions of alberta who albertans who pay their bills just how entitled and belligerent these unions
00:06:11.120 are that sort of walk out would set the stage perfectly for premier smith to table and pass right
00:06:16.160 to work legislation let those who want to work choose to work all of alberta would be better for it
00:06:21.360 and gill will suddenly have to serve his members rather than blow dollars with self-serving protests
00:06:26.000 business and investment will move to alberta while entitled union types will flee i can't think of a
00:06:30.160 better outcome if the courts feel the legislation isn't constitutional well we have the notwithstanding
00:06:34.560 clause and we've shown we're not afraid to use it so bring it on gill bring it on all right that's my
00:06:40.080 rant i'm sure that'll keep the union folks happy today hey dave how's it going it's going well gill's
00:06:43.840 a beauty isn't it oh gill's a piece of work i love tweaking his tail feathers absolutely so welcome back
00:06:48.640 oh thanks israel is a wonderful country hey it's incredible i had larry and jeff and meyer showing
00:06:54.240 you around the length and breadth i did yes so we have a shared experience it sounds like a good
00:06:59.440 consistent uh agenda over there yeah well i see you got larry on later on so uh he'll be able to explain
00:07:05.280 it also yeah it's uh it it's you know you put you right in the middle of everything that's going on
00:07:11.440 over there it makes you think and uh you know it's i just you know we both spent time in israel this year and
00:07:18.000 we can't come up with any answers no no answers but a lot more to think on you can't substitute
00:07:23.280 seeing things with your own eyes i mean i'm a voracious reader i read a lot of books but i mean
00:07:26.720 you can learn more in an eight-day trip than in months of reading i'm certain absolutely so glad
00:07:32.160 you had a good time yes all right leading off the news today is a horrible story in england where a
00:07:38.160 man was out walking his dog and came across a african migrant who was smuggled into england illegally in
00:07:44.800 the back of a truck he went on a stabbing spree for some reason stabbed a 14 year old boy and another
00:07:50.320 guy and this this poor dog walker tried to intervene and got stabbed to death uh so there's been outrage
00:07:56.800 in england about how this can happen and just an awful awful video of it actually happening that
00:08:02.720 is uh is very disturbing uh canada's shame on the international stage continues with uh with president
00:08:10.160 trump uh had a big dinner uh in uh korea today and uh they sat at the same table round table but i don't
00:08:17.280 think they spoke much and trump tweeted i didn't come to uh korea to see canada so you know and doug
00:08:25.360 ford is still trying to do a damage control uh in ontario because it was his ad that caused all the
00:08:31.120 problems and uh yikes uh what a mess i'm glad i don't work in the ontario manufacturing industry because
00:08:37.440 they're getting hammered yeah doug isn't doing them any favors well subsidizing all those plants
00:08:43.040 and everything look how that's worked yeah exactly uh bank of canada today lowered their interest rates
00:08:48.160 a quarter point to 2.25 so people with variable mortgages uh have a bit more money to spend and uh
00:08:56.640 liam mushit our uh our reporter uh there's a story out earlier this week about climate alarmism
00:09:03.600 and how like two percent of the population actually suffers from it and then affects their health
00:09:08.960 because they're worried they're going to die uh interestingly bill gates came out yesterday and
00:09:14.240 says he doesn't believe we're going to die anymore changed his mind but uh leah has interviewed michelle
00:09:19.200 sterling who we know and has been on your show several times she's uh with the friends of science
00:09:24.000 and they talk about all this alarmism about climate change so that's up there now for everybody to watch
00:09:29.200 well i'm not too alarmed i mean i i just came from an environment where it was what 21 22 degrees
00:09:33.760 at night and 28 29 in the days and i'm back to this frost on my windshield in the morning
00:09:38.960 i say bring on the global warming i i'm gonna be nervous if we don't change well for the next six
00:09:43.360 months anyway so uh my mom says thank you for the fridge magnets oh well happy to have picked them up
00:09:48.880 i'm glad if you wanted me to pick something up it was a cost effective and small there you go right
00:09:53.040 i'm a i'm an easy shopper all right well thanks steve all right say hi to larry for me will do
00:09:58.000 all right so yes guys lots going on that's uh coming out of our newsroom from our news editor
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00:10:41.840 let's cover a couple more things before i get to my guest it's uh in calgary something that changed
00:10:46.160 by the time i got back i'd written a column on it already it was out there we've got a new mayor
00:10:51.120 jeremy farkas i've known jeremy for quite some time and i know people are concerned jeremy's an
00:10:57.920 interesting guy uh he was very very small government conservative uh when he was a counselor when he was
00:11:06.400 working with the wild rose party during his four years after losing the last mayoral election he kind of
00:11:11.360 started leaning into some woke causes and was hanging out with people like nenshi and saying
00:11:15.680 some things uh you know i even i took issue with a couple of attacks he made on on premier smith but
00:11:23.600 whatever it may be he worked hard kept at it and he managed to win the election and he's the mayor and
00:11:28.000 i know some people are worried that we've got another woke mayor well let's let's put some of
00:11:31.600 that to ease though whatever may be up with jeremy uh for one i mean come on nobody can be well you
00:11:37.680 never say never but did the likelihood of be him being any worse than jody gondek
00:11:41.280 is very slim he's he's a pragmatic guy and think of it this way i mean one of the worst things we
00:11:47.440 can have is a hardcore ideologue who never does change their views and never does change their
00:11:51.680 minds and jeremy is willing to reevaluate his views on things even if i don't always agree with
00:11:57.920 his conclusions we've got an interesting council in calgary right now we've lost 10 out of 15 of the
00:12:04.480 incumbents in there so jeremy's sitting on top with 10 new people sitting in there and if you look at
00:12:10.080 the political leanings our own mike thomas from the western standard sort of broke it down
00:12:13.920 we've got basically split half and half between people you would identify as being conservative
00:12:19.120 and people you would identify as being left-wing and jeremy kind of sits there in the center and
00:12:23.440 we know from his past actions he can kind of drop either way what i would suggest rather than getting
00:12:28.560 upset with jeremy because i know some people wanted more conservative candidates he's going to be the
00:12:32.320 mayor for at least the next four years he's receptive i mean because of the fact that he will go
00:12:38.480 different directions on different issues it tells you reach out to him let him know where you stand
00:12:44.080 on things let him know where you would like him to land on issues going in the future he can be
00:12:49.760 influenced you know when you get a true hardcore ideologue they can't they won't move they won't
00:12:54.400 budge you can basically script what they're going to do and act with jeremy we don't necessarily know
00:13:00.160 and one thing i'll say for jeremy which i think means more than his policy areas and in knowing him
00:13:06.240 he is a good person he really is he's a smart guy he dwells on things might not always make the
00:13:13.760 right choice but he's always genuine i mean we've had enough of the self-serving of the corrupt and
00:13:18.560 those types and i've never seen a glimmer of any of that sort of behavior out of jeremy so let's maintain
00:13:25.520 optimism perhaps your preferred mayoral candidate didn't win the race this time around but we've got the
00:13:31.920 council we have right now we got a lot of big issues to deal with in calgary and it's because
00:13:37.520 it's split the way it is it can turn out to be one of the best councils we've seen in years i sure hope
00:13:44.160 so or it could turn out terrible and dysfunctional and they'll all be fighting with each other
00:13:48.160 as they can be inclined to who knows but we can have an impact you can have an impact between elections
00:13:54.080 just sitting back and watching is ensuring that somebody else gets the mayor's ear and pushes him
00:14:00.640 perhaps in a direction that doesn't represent you or reflect what you're thinking and uh that's the
00:14:05.280 price of apathy guys we pay it so look into things check things out council will be sitting and uh
00:14:12.000 the municipal budget and all that good stuff will be coming soon all right so let's get on with other
00:14:15.600 things as i said earlier yes i vanished for a bit i don't tend to i had gone to israel i was posting a
00:14:21.280 lot of things from there some people were wondering what the heck is cory doing over there
00:14:25.440 what's going on what's this about and uh well it was an opportunity that came about uh thanks to
00:14:31.680 the exigent foundation and larry mar and you know i can't think of a better way to explain it and then
00:14:36.560 bring larry on and talk about what those guys do and why they would sponsor to bring a nutcase like
00:14:42.720 me over to israel to tour around and look at a few things and learn some stuff so uh let's bring larry in
00:14:48.240 and have a conversation there hey larry thanks very much for joining me today hey cory how are you thank
00:14:53.040 you for having me oh very good thanks i'm here i've just recovered from the jet lag so i'm almost
00:14:59.680 awake now it's been much better great so i mean i i guess just to begin with uh i'll start with the
00:15:06.720 why uh you and vivian were the founders of the exigent foundation why did you feel compelled to to begin
00:15:13.360 this organization um well shortly after as you know um october 7th uh i was seeing what was going on in
00:15:22.080 in ontario and toronto specifically with a lot of the um the protests happening and i was speaking to
00:15:28.720 friends and family and i i realized that this was going to get a lot worse and some people didn't
00:15:34.240 believe me they didn't really understand why uh so i decided uh that i would take a small group of
00:15:40.240 journalists uh to israel uh to basically give them a little bit of an education as to the extremism that
00:15:48.480 surrounds israel in the middle east and how it's been here for decades uh in canada in north america
00:15:56.080 and was you know going to show its uh ugly face through our institutions which we're now seeing
00:16:01.280 through universities through schools um unions uh you name it and that was the purpose of uh of why we
00:16:09.760 started the um these missions to israel well and personally i mean i thought it was very effective i i
00:16:16.400 already had my views and opinions but still there's only so much i could know and and as i said to
00:16:22.240 dave just before that with the check-in you can't beat having your feet on the ground talking to other
00:16:26.560 people and just seeing for yourself and i mean i want to you know clarify that with some people you
00:16:31.920 guys weren't there to indoctrinate us i wasn't sitting there being grilled with lectures or or uh you
00:16:37.040 know uh told what to do you you just kind of brought us around and gave us a wide variety of things to see
00:16:41.600 over there yeah i mean we went as you know we went down south we went to the the gaza border we went
00:16:46.880 up north to lebanon syria jordan i mean that was all done within four or five days you see how small
00:16:52.720 the country is you had an opportunity to speak to israelis as well as i believe they spoke to
00:16:57.360 um a couple palestinians one that used to live in gaza one now in ramallah and one actually a
00:17:02.400 palestinian uh christian that converted from uh muslim to christianity i know a couple in the group
00:17:07.520 had an opportunity to speak to um so yeah it's um it's it's uh it's quite the the experience and
00:17:17.440 eye-opener uh and like i like you just mentioned earlier with dave you can read a book you know and
00:17:23.600 books for days and months but the experience of of traveling at least for me uh there's nothing beats
00:17:30.480 that no and and part of what you list on the the site and what you kind of alluded to earlier too
00:17:37.200 i mean a lot of what i've heard from other people is well what does it matter to me what
00:17:41.840 does it mean to me i'm not worried about that that's over there that's their problem and this
00:17:47.440 extremism is spilling over as you pointed out into our universities into our media over here onto our
00:17:53.840 streets you know we got to see the worst possible outcome of it when it's actually spilled out in a
00:17:59.920 massive horrific terrorist attack but we we have to be able to point out to people that we aren't
00:18:05.360 insulated from this that same ideology is over here even if it's not as as immediately vicious
00:18:11.040 exactly i mean you i brought uh i mean now it's about 50 members from canadian media across canada
00:18:17.360 all different uh um you know from bc to to quebec ontario yourself from alberta a number of people
00:18:25.200 from alberta different walks of life uh and they're able to apply the extremism the these situations that
00:18:31.920 they're that happen in their own communities and they see how it's it's coming from the middle east
00:18:37.760 this extremist ideology you can call it it doesn't matter if it's the far left or the far right they both
00:18:43.920 have these extreme ideologies neither one of them is good and you know the issue that me personally
00:18:50.640 now on a personal level is we don't see very much uh happening in the center and being able to have a
00:18:55.760 dialogue with people on both sides of the aisle it's either it's either one extreme or if you're not on
00:19:01.440 that side you're an extremist on on the other side but um you know radical um islamists have been for 0.94
00:19:09.520 years and um we can look at this as you see through the muslim brotherhood they have been infiltrating 1.00
00:19:15.680 our institutions uh and um people need to start waking up and understand what's going on as i said
00:19:22.480 before uh in the middle east the violence is very different than the indoctrination that they're using
00:19:27.600 here uh in the west they do it in a different way they've learned how to latch on to our our liberal
00:19:32.960 ideas and our our our democracies and use those against us unfortunately yeah and and bringing us
00:19:40.400 over there i think at least helped uh for some who might not know necessarily like just it is a
00:19:46.000 liberal democracy over there i mean it's got challenges but it's uh a welcoming place meeting
00:19:51.920 the people i mean tel aviv was something else and something i noticed while walking down the street was
00:19:56.880 uh uh uh well a couple of well everybody's beautiful out there it seems but a a couple of
00:20:02.000 nice looking young men uh quite enamored with each other sitting on a bench having a good time
00:20:07.600 that's fine but that couldn't happen anywhere else in the middle east like this bastion of freedom for
00:20:12.400 some people of oppressed minorities i mean if israel disappeared the middle east is going to be a much
00:20:18.240 worse place yeah i mean look they don't uh you can go back in history the arabs don't necessarily 0.98
00:20:25.040 all love each other i mean if israel were to disappear uh tomorrow there there would still be
00:20:29.760 war in the middle east as you saw in syria there's a there's uh it's unstable there uh you have sunnis
00:20:36.400 and shiites fighting each other you have isis and al-qaeda that are um that are fighting each other you
00:20:42.000 have factions you have about 12 different factions or 15 different factions in gaza there
00:20:47.280 that are fighting with each other and with hamas i mean lebanon is trying to stabilize itself by
00:20:52.640 by attempting to disarm hezbollah it's just it's a very very unstable situation and um you know
00:21:00.320 israel is as as i mentioned to you before this is not a mission to uh talk about politics where you
00:21:07.440 know every country's got it's got its uh its own issues uh you can agree with the government just
00:21:12.640 like our government here or disagree with it and it's the same for israel there it's about the experience
00:21:17.920 of what israelis are facing as a democracy in the middle east and um and and those challenges that
00:21:25.360 they have all have are coming over here and they've already come here and hopefully it's not too late to
00:21:30.560 deal with them and and being able to meet uh different people and and talk with them get
00:21:35.360 perspectives uh god i'm so terrible with names i should have written in my notes that the gentleman
00:21:39.520 who took us on the tour of the the kibbutz and that got hit so hard we met at vivian's place as well
00:21:44.160 uh there we go and he was so candid with us though i mean it was a gentleman that clearly
00:21:52.480 it would still hurt uh you know such a vicious horrible experience yet quite blatant just saying
00:21:59.040 it's got to end like he's he doesn't want more war he's saying we've got to find a way out of this
00:22:04.800 like that that picture some people are pointing that that israelis are vengeful or want this pedal to
00:22:10.720 go on i mean i imagine there's a handful that are that way but i didn't meet that i i saw people
00:22:15.600 who were wounded and just wanted resolution though nobody can quite see exactly how to get there yet
00:22:20.960 no exactly i mean look elan you you know staying in kafaraza he that particular kibbutz they used to
00:22:28.080 have palestinians that from gaza that would work every day on the kibbutz in a variety of different roles
00:22:33.120 they were they were getting paid to do it and um they you know to an extent they were they were
00:22:37.840 friends this was going on for years and when you stand there at that gate and you're behind you is
00:22:43.760 the horrors of october 7th and you look straight ahead and you see gaza i mean cory how that was
00:22:49.840 your that was your house where he's still not living there he hasn't been living there for two years
00:22:55.280 and you look across i mean there's there's a whole thought i mean even when i look across is
00:23:00.880 how secure is the border right now if i were to move back into my home into this kibbutz so i don't 0.93
00:23:08.000 know how you felt when you're when you when you see the the horror around you and you look across and
00:23:12.560 you see gaza you know that there's there's a lot of uncertainty well that's it i mean we we've never
00:23:20.240 had to experience that in canada not that sort of fear i i mean uh i guess some people would feel
00:23:26.800 there was a sense of complacency that allowed things to build up as badly as they did in gaza
00:23:31.120 until it spilled over in that worst worst possible way with the the horrific activities
00:23:36.160 on october 7th so you can see why there's support to somehow eliminate the threat somehow eliminate
00:23:41.920 hamas and and yeah it's easy to say that but when you've got it's not like a conventional war the
00:23:47.040 people you're fighting against are intermixed among some innocent civilians how do you pick them
00:23:52.480 out of the bunch but you can't just leave it how do people move back how do people relax
00:23:56.480 again until they feel it's been resolved it's just such a mire it is i mean look a great example
00:24:03.120 what you're just saying right now is when we spoke to uh he's on the palestinian that now there's a
00:24:07.280 ramallah and i believe you asked the question you said uh if can you name asking him can you name any
00:24:13.280 leadership either in gaza or in the west bank if there was complete peace right now that he could name to
00:24:22.560 uh govern the palestinians in either gaza or the west bank or both and what was his answer he didn't
00:24:30.080 have an answer there's there's nobody and so there's a lot of there's not only infrastructure
00:24:34.240 problems there's governing problems there's corruption has been going on it's going to be going on for
00:24:39.360 decades and decades and decades uh so so there's a lot of you know issues other than rebuilding gaza and
00:24:47.200 and uh in ending this war but the palestinians themselves don't have any clear leadership i mean
00:24:54.240 the their mahmoud abbas is is a he's a terrorist uh he's a pay for sleigh his his uh phd that he wrote 0.68
00:25:02.240 was um it was the denial of the holocaust and uh he hasn't called elections in in decades and uh the
00:25:10.160 second uh person that the palestinians are insisting even hamas that could possibly run would be
00:25:15.200 would be marwan barghouti who's serving i think five or six life sentences in in israeli jail right
00:25:21.120 now so there's a there's an issue um so i don't know what i don't know what the answer is and um
00:25:29.680 you know i don't know maybe you have you have some suggestions no the the term i've been using other
00:25:34.800 people when they ask about is as a is i'm like an old you know 486 computer i've got all this input
00:25:40.240 and now it's spinning and processing and processing and processing i i haven't figured out how to
00:25:44.960 i i mean a uh i'd be making far more money or in a better position if i was smart enough to find a
00:25:49.360 solution for that but i'm closer to it i've learned a lot uh something i thought might show a a glimmer
00:25:56.800 on where we should start looking maybe when we drove up through haifa and jeff pointed aside that
00:26:01.040 here's the town i live in and right next door there's another town with minarets and it's an arab 1.00
00:26:06.720 town i mean people again forget it's not a exclusively jewish country 18 of the country is is is arab
00:26:14.160 uh those towns i mean they're not integrated they but they're not or weren't at each other's
00:26:20.000 throats either like there's got to be room for the communities to live next to each other without
00:26:23.760 trying to kill each other i imagine attitudes between those two towns are different than those
00:26:27.520 between gaza and israel itself but maybe it's some of those relationships we can start looking at and
00:26:32.320 trying to figure out how we can try and make some of these things work yeah i mean like look how i mean i
00:26:37.120 don't know i know a little bit what's going on in alberta but i can tell you in ontario
00:26:40.960 on any given day here we have protests in the not in the hundreds anymore it'd be in the thousands
00:26:46.720 um pro hamas rallies pull terrorist rallies whatever you want to call them and i don't i believe if
00:26:54.880 someone can correct me if i'm wrong there has not been one protest in israel by any pro hamas crowd in
00:27:02.560 any arab village since 10 october october 7th so this is a problem that's happening here in the west
00:27:12.160 because that's not happening in israel um you know arabs and and and israelis and christians
00:27:18.320 are able and jews are able to live uh side by side um you know they they get along and and i'll also point
00:27:25.840 out not only there are no protests in israel uh on two different occasions where i've been in israel
00:27:32.400 on one occasion hezbollah had fired i think it was around 20 rockets while we were heading up north
00:27:37.920 one of the rockets a couple of them actually landed in the village next to where we were going an arab
00:27:42.640 village killed uh i believe he was 21 years old one of the journalists had said to myself and another
00:27:50.480 person what would hezbollah say uh knowing that they killed uh an israeli arab and the answer was
00:27:58.240 they don't care they don't care if you're arab they don't care if you're christian and they don't care
00:28:02.560 if you're jewish or what you are straight gay doesn't matter and the same thing as when we went up uh
00:28:08.400 north in magdal shams hezbollah fired rockets landed in a school yard in a soccer yard that killed uh
00:28:16.000 you know 10 or 12 jerusalem while they were playing soccer these are not jews they are targeting anything
00:28:22.160 and anybody in israel period the existence of israel is not in their vocabulary no and i mean something
00:28:30.560 that that really drove me nuts prior to the trip and even more so now is the people even trying to
00:28:36.960 soft sell or deny or or undercut the atrocities of what happened on october 7th uh you know you could
00:28:42.640 differ with israeli policy or even you know the the existence of israel even which you know i don't
00:28:47.760 but i mean so people could but to try and even slightly justify what happened that day and i mean
00:28:53.920 boy you guys didn't sugarcoat it for us but we needed to see that uh for anybody who's seen you know
00:28:59.280 that that horrific video and see the sites uh the the music festival the kibbutz and uh it it should 0.89
00:29:06.480 change anybody's perspective if they're human and uh i think just we need more outreach to people
00:29:12.320 understand whatever the solution is to this actions like that can can never be accepted and it's never
00:29:17.600 be a course of action for changing a state i agree with you a hundred percent i mean israel is a is a
00:29:22.880 sovereign sovereign state it's a nation it's it's it's been around since 1948 and it it had it was
00:29:30.080 invaded by a government a government of hamas they sent thousands of people in uh and invaded a
00:29:37.840 sovereign state they didn't hold them hostage in israel they brought them back across their border
00:29:44.160 and they've held them hostage even until today dead or alive um you know any other country in in the
00:29:50.720 world that's ever i don't even that's had an invasion like this and people been taken back across
00:29:55.840 the border as a hostage any other country go back and get their citizen they would do it immediately 0.97
00:30:01.200 i mean i don't want to discuss you know the timing of going into gaza and all that sort of thing but
00:30:07.120 the fact that is i mean if canada went into buffalo and in october 7th happened in buffalo you can be sure
00:30:14.400 that the united states within seconds would be back over here and collect every last u.s citizen no
00:30:19.760 matter what happens and the same for most countries around the world um so this whole narrative that
00:30:25.840 that's going on right now to me is absolutely ridiculous and i don't even entertain it
00:30:31.120 no and it's maddening thankfully at least the living hostages are back as is horrible with what
00:30:36.000 they had to endure and hopefully the last of the remains come in uh just a lot of people might not
00:30:40.400 realize just how sacred the remains are for for jewish people as well i mean it's sacred for everybody
00:30:45.120 with their family members but even more so in that case uh but i either way i've run out the the
00:30:50.560 segment i appreciate you taking the time i really appreciate you bringing myself and dave out there
00:30:55.520 it was enlightening i feel i'm better i don't have the answers but i'm a little bit closer to it than
00:31:00.400 i had been prior to going um before i let you go where can people find information on the foundation
00:31:05.920 to find out more about it or support it or anything of that sort they can go to exigentfoundation.org and
00:31:10.800 they will uh find the information on there and um they can send us uh emails donations uh whatever they
00:31:18.160 like all right well excellent thank you very much again larry uh hope we get to talk again sometime
00:31:24.000 soon and please keep up that good work for sure thanks cory appreciate it great thank you all right
00:31:28.560 talk soon all right all right guys yeah just one more time that was larry marr and it's the exigent
00:31:33.840 foundation and you know as i said some of the feedback oh look at that cory's been bought off by
00:31:40.720 netanyahu or he's going to be indoctrinated or he's paid off all guys guys i wouldn't be driving a
00:31:45.760 hyundai if all that money was really coming in uh from israel no there was no payment to me though
00:31:50.560 it was a uh a sponsored trip i i didn't have to pay to go and i i think you know this is one of the
00:31:57.600 best ways to deal with things it's not fighting with media it's not uh bitching about unfair coverage
00:32:04.080 it's it's not uh trying to create coverage or create an opinion it's just saying look here we're
00:32:10.160 giving you a chance you can come over we'll take you over to these spots to have a look to talk to
00:32:15.280 some people and come to your own conclusions you know theoretically right we can only be better
00:32:22.240 for having more information before we write on these things so our social media influencers
00:32:27.360 uh you know media members people like myself this is a good way to do it was uh the group uh pro israel
00:32:35.760 slanted and inclined yeah there's no doubt about that i mean i was that way before i went as well
00:32:40.960 but it doesn't mean i was shielded from from other aspects of seeing things i wasn't controlled about
00:32:46.640 where i could go i i think i've mentioned on this show before i went to the soviet union back in the
00:32:50.480 late 80s when it was still communist and on that trip i tell you that was shielded that was having a
00:32:55.520 couple people next to you for every part of the trip you didn't get to go wandering out on your own
00:32:59.680 uh checking things out speaking to people without your conversations being tightly controlled this again
00:33:05.120 our our itinerary was very packed uh but we were our own people and we could speak to others candidly
00:33:13.200 and something that struck me a lot as i said talking to other people was just i mean this
00:33:18.720 these are people that have been so attacked uh so violated and they're they're hurt but i didn't see
00:33:25.520 the bitterness i thought i would i didn't see quite the anger i thought i would or or the appetite
00:33:31.360 like i said i didn't see an appetite for vengeance if anything maybe just tired uh i think they
00:33:38.000 understand it's not over but at least this chapter is we came at an interesting time the last of the
00:33:43.520 living hostages have been returned we went out to tel aviv on the streets that night and what a
00:33:48.400 vibrant place you you know this is a a nation that's been on and off at war for for you know since
00:33:53.520 i was born and more recently even worse and people are are out enjoying themselves enjoying each
00:34:00.880 other maybe it's a terrible way to get it but maybe people get a better appreciation of life when
00:34:05.360 you've had it threatened so much but you know i'm not seeing a culture that wants violence or wants
00:34:13.360 war at least not in the israeli side i don't want to blanket things i i suspect many many people
00:34:18.320 in gaza and other areas want to see an end to this too they're not exactly having a good time out of
00:34:22.560 this but that ideology is spawning a heck of a lot more violence and a heck of a lot more intolerance
00:34:28.240 than than than what we're seeing on the other i there's no clear answer but seeing the the horrors
00:34:35.200 directly just knowing that this is unacceptable the world's moving ahead we're supposed to be
00:34:40.080 getting better and that chunk is still sorting it out remember we talk about pluralism we talk about
00:34:47.360 living together and trying to do those things well that's ground zero guys that's where the major
00:34:52.720 religions all share a holy spot and uh yeah that's also the the spot where there's going to be the
00:34:58.880 most fighting because you're all sharing these holy spots but if we're going to find solutions the
00:35:02.960 solutions are going to start over there and the amount of misinformation of ignorance of of gross bias
00:35:11.760 whether it's on on university campuses or in legacy media it's just been too much it's got to be countered
00:35:19.840 i mean i'll bring you an example ctv has been beyond the pale lately on this issue they've been
00:35:24.480 something else and even quite a while back if you're not familiar with the name vivian silver she was
00:35:30.720 very highly regarded out there was a peace activist from canada who was out in israel in a kibbutz and
00:35:37.760 she was taking uh gazans in for medical care to help them out in israel and things like that they're very
00:35:44.800 peaceful i mean you got to remember the people attacked in these kibbutz and were usually lefties
00:35:49.200 and what did she get in reward for that she was slaughtered she was murdered just like the rest
00:35:55.120 when they crossed that border it was kind of like larry was talking about they don't the ones on that
00:35:58.720 extreme end of the ideology don't care they just are lashing out i don't even know if they know what
00:36:04.960 their end might be but ctv reported that when the remains of vivian silver were found and confirmed and
00:36:13.840 their headline said vivian silver canadian peace activist or something died in gaza recently like
00:36:22.880 no she was kidnapped and murdered they make it made it sound like she passed away of old age or she had
00:36:27.920 the flu or tripped and hit her head say it like it is but they won't so yeah i i appreciate that somebody
00:36:37.040 at least is trying to bring more out there to see it for themselves that's all you know somebody who
00:36:43.040 should be dragged out there though i wouldn't want to be on that trip rachel gilmore drag that ditz 1.00
00:36:48.480 out there fly her across maybe maybe somewhere behind those vacuous eyes a little bit will drive 1.00
00:36:55.200 home i mean just you don't have to tell her what to think or tell her what to do but just let her
00:37:00.000 actually see it and quit reading the the pap that she regurgitates on her thing people say we should 0.82
00:37:06.080 ignore the rachel gilmore's i wish i could i don't trust i don't tune into her show but you still see
00:37:11.760 dribs and drabs and you got to remember she has tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands people
00:37:16.960 watching this drivel she's putting out so it does have an impact it does have an influence and we can't
00:37:24.400 ban others from speaking that doesn't make us any better than anybody else but hopefully we can impact
00:37:29.280 and bring about more truth more rationality in what's a massively irrational situation all right
00:37:39.680 how do you think bring things a little back home again there's like i said so much been going on i
00:37:43.200 got a backlog going on we've got a teacher strike we got the teachers were forced back to school today
00:37:47.920 by premier smith with the back to work legislation and then she's taken off to saudi arabia now look 0.99
00:37:53.760 this trip was scheduled uh probably a year ago for premier smith because people are saying oh look at that
00:37:58.560 she lobs a turd into the punch bowl then takes off overseas uh well there's not much more she can do 1.00
00:38:04.240 over here but boy it's all hitting the fan right now as i said in my opening uh uh the the unions
00:38:11.200 here are going bananas they're threatening a general strike there's supposed to be a press conference at
00:38:15.600 1 30 this afternoon uh we'll see what happens i mean will this happen alberta's never had a general
00:38:22.480 strike before uh as i said in my monologue i don't know i'm not totally averse to this
00:38:28.480 because maybe it's time to talk about people realizing some hard realities finding some truth
00:38:32.080 premier smith my main criticism of her since she's become premier has been that she hasn't cut the 0.98
00:38:37.760 civil servants enough she she hasn't brought the budget closer to being under control we're running 1.00
00:38:42.160 a deficit in alberta we're supposed to be better than that well maybe if these civil servants walk 0.99
00:38:48.000 out and people realize just how little they were bloody well doing there's going to be a lot more
00:38:51.680 public appetite to say you know what i bet we can shave 10 out of there or 15 or 20. they're not
00:38:58.240 going to make themselves more popular with the citizens of alberta by doing this we've got a
00:39:03.680 larger culture war going on here this strike with the teachers because people are scratching their
00:39:08.880 heads and i'm seeing that from albertans because they were offered a lot of what they claimed they
00:39:14.320 were asking for they were offered a 12 raise it would have made them the highest paid teachers in
00:39:18.560 western canada six-figure incomes summer off fall off christmas off spring break off like i said uh
00:39:25.840 you know ethel merman's birthday you get that off the teachers seem to get every bloody day off
00:39:29.680 less and less days they're working every year more money huge pension a commitment to hire 3 000
00:39:35.280 more teachers a commitment to hire what 500 more educational assistants a year and they turned it down
00:39:41.200 why well we're seeing that because what their real fight is what they're most upset about
00:39:49.200 is the expansion of alternative education charter schools private schools that's where their beef is
00:39:56.240 they want a monopoly they want it all they want the ability to have full control over your children
00:40:03.520 because that's where you start right if you can get them when they're being educated you can impose
00:40:07.760 the ideology let's talk about ideological battles right what's been going on with this israel
00:40:12.720 situation things like that people on either side of it let parents choose and if a school's being too
00:40:18.000 biased let them move to a different school uh commenter uh uh rucking around yes uh what's my
00:40:26.960 vision of a streamlined government for an independent alberta well you know i i had bruce party on before
00:40:32.560 he's a law professor from queen's university and he's talked a lot about that he put out a uh a
00:40:39.040 proposed constitution say for an independent alberta which is probably it would only be a few pages if
00:40:44.240 he printed the whole thing out very very limited he he would like to see an absolute minimalist
00:40:50.560 government and then any extra thing the government should do it should be the reverse order they have
00:40:55.280 to make the case to us as to why the government should take these things on rather than you know
00:41:01.200 we have to have this bloated government and try to beg and fight and scrap to reduce the amount of
00:41:05.600 reach and bloat and expense that they're providing us that i envision maybe nothing quite as stripped down
00:41:12.400 as what mr party is proposing but yeah i think we can get away with a heck of a lot less than what we
00:41:18.000 have i've talked about that before you know there's different systems out there we've got to examine
00:41:21.840 different systems canada's system we know is imperfect far from it and we can't change the
00:41:26.160 constitution uh we we know that we travel charlottetown meach lake those are modest changes we failed so
00:41:34.320 the best chance we have is going independent and if we go independent we got to bring in a system
00:41:37.520 that's new that's better than whatever we left one of the main words i would want to use for a new you
00:41:43.520 know theoretical fantasy whatever you want to call it government for an independent alberta the word i
00:41:49.200 want to use decentralized decentralized so even if hebbenton remained the capital
00:41:57.040 that break it all up into uh switzerland is a system i like to bring up a lot and compare with 26 cantons
00:42:03.600 very independent the federal government of switzerland does very very little very little
00:42:07.840 in the in the impact on people's lives it has the military you know an internet uh interstate you know
00:42:12.880 inter canton transport uh the postal service currency just things that must be done by a federal
00:42:19.120 government other than that health care education uh housing all of that stuff that's all down at the
00:42:25.520 local level so people with different views in different areas can have things the way they want
00:42:31.680 there's four languages in switzerland we can't even manage to get along with two official languages
00:42:36.400 in canada but in switzerland they're doing it why because okay well you can have your language over
00:42:40.320 there but i have my language over here and guess what we don't have to fight over because you're
00:42:43.280 not trying to make me speak yours and i won't try to make you speak mine what a crazy concept eh
00:42:47.600 this canton over here is a little more socialist this one over here is a little more capitalist it
00:42:51.360 doesn't matter there's no separatist movement going on in switzerland why because you're allowing
00:42:55.200 the regional differences that's one of the areas when we're talking about indigenous needs too
00:42:59.120 you know we can address that then let's offer essentially cantons to the indigenous groups to
00:43:08.160 the reserves in alberta have real self-government try to move them more towards actual independence
00:43:13.840 the problem is we're giving them right now a whole lot of authority on these reserves
00:43:17.920 but we're not imposing the responsibility or the new system we could potentially do that but make the
00:43:22.720 government local bring it right down now one of the things that disappointed me as i said with the
00:43:27.600 municipal election turnout i didn't say that yet i said that a different interview i was on a thing
00:43:32.000 earlier today uh but i was talking about the municipal election one of these disappointed me
00:43:35.360 was the low low turnout 40 came out this was a turnover of a mayor we turned over a whole lot of
00:43:41.360 people in the civic government in calgary but fewer than half bothered to come out and do it so if we had
00:43:50.160 a new independent alberta and a decentralized government and that sort of local thing one thing though
00:43:54.800 the only way it's going to work is means you got to get off your ass take part in it right
00:43:59.840 you gotta vote you gotta take uh part in policy discussions you've got to work on these things
00:44:07.040 and it doesn't instill confidence in me that we would if we can't get up and take part in civic
00:44:11.840 elections in a city as large as calgary that it had such a uh a terrible mayor to go out all right
00:44:17.360 i'll finish off with speaking of all of that uh fabio lukasic yes thomas lukasic hey credit where it's due
00:44:23.200 they pulled it off they organized well who knows where the money and such came from but they did it
00:44:27.440 hundreds of thousands of signatures they presented for their nothing burger we want to stay in canada
00:44:34.720 uh referendum and now he's saying well i don't really want a referendum i just want to vote in
00:44:39.360 the legislature but some people said well no no no no no no you're going to invoke a referendum
00:44:44.960 so it will be an independence referendum in a way it wouldn't be constitutionally binding
00:44:48.960 necessarily but it would be an independence referendum he might have gotten what he thought he
00:44:53.120 was fighting it'll be interesting to see how that all turns out problem is though it wouldn't be
00:44:58.320 binding and it would also be a reverse onus i think it's harder to campaign on that because
00:45:02.960 those who want independence would actually have to vote no i think if there's a chance for independence
00:45:08.000 we have to vote yes not just i mean not yes on his petitioner and his his referendum but yes to go
00:45:14.560 things have to look positive we have to be building something better something new something
00:45:18.720 that's going to improve things for us and when you're voting on a no that's hard to campaign on it's
00:45:22.080 psychological but it's a reality to it but we'll watch that closely and see what's up keep an eye
00:45:26.640 on the news watch for the uh the pipeline coming up we're going to be breaking down some more issues
00:45:30.800 with our panel and keep an eye on the western standard as i said there's there's some press
00:45:34.880 conferences coming out and things breaking today and we will have that coverage as soon as it comes
00:45:39.360 out so thank you for tuning in today guys it's great to be back and i will see you all again next week
00:45:45.040 at this time
00:45:54.480 so
00:46:04.880 We'll be right back.