Western Standard - June 20, 2026


CORY MORGAN SHOW： Consultation has broken Canada


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00:00:00.000 Good day.
00:00:29.580 welcome to the cory morgan show back in our new background studio from the global energy show last
00:00:37.020 week on the floor getting kind of closer to normal now i guess uh lots to cover today lots going on
00:00:43.100 the news things in the independence front things internationally you name it it's all over i'm
00:00:47.340 gonna have michelle sterling on a little while she was with friends of science for a long time
00:00:51.900 it also has been very prolific on a number of issues and we're gonna talk yeah some first
00:00:56.300 nation stuff i'm always covering that she's got more to speak of be sure this is live guys use the
00:01:02.540 comment scroll there put your questions comments ideas notions towards me i appreciate it it keeps
00:01:09.600 things rolling and uh you know also if you have some discussions with each other just make sure
00:01:14.320 to keep it a little civil with each other we've had a lot of uh non-civil stuff going on lately
00:01:19.440 with some stuff in politics and maybe it's time to ramp things down and get a little more rational
00:01:24.260 with things. But either way, we can rant and rave without being bound by too much civility. So
00:01:29.780 I'm going to go on on the latest thing. You can catch this story in the Western Standard from
00:01:33.260 last week. It just still floored me. So I mean, you might student not even be able to erect a
00:01:38.860 garden shed in your backyard without getting consent of indigenous people, perhaps hundreds 0.98
00:01:43.780 of kilometers away. And I mean, does that sound ridiculous? Well, it's no less absurd than any
00:01:48.900 other consultation requirements imposed by activist judge recently. I mean, in BC, it's
00:01:54.080 illegal to enter certain provincial parks at certain times of the year if you're of the wrong
00:01:57.500 race. Nothing's off the table now. Democracy itself is now secondary to Indigenous consultation.
00:02:04.360 It doesn't matter if hundreds of thousands of citizens call for a referendum on an issue, 0.87
00:02:08.060 they're not allowed to even ask the questions in a democratic exercise without somehow gaining
00:02:12.740 unanimous consent from Indigenous chiefs. And I say unanimous because it appears that if even a few
00:02:18.700 complain about the Democratic vote, as was the case with Alberta's proposed referendum,
00:02:23.100 a Liberal-appointed judge will quickly shut down the process, despite the efforts of hundreds of
00:02:27.460 thousands of citizens, just due to the complaints of a handful. It was the chiefs, not the Indigenous
00:02:32.820 people at large who took issue with allowing Albertans to vote on an issue. And who's a chief
00:02:37.920 anyway? An activist judge in BC just shut down a $1.5 billion gold mining project due to a
00:02:45.100 complaint from a self-appointed hereditary chief only represents a few dozen people at best. One
00:02:50.880 doesn't need to be elected by indigenous people as a representative. One doesn't need to have an 1.00
00:02:55.060 actual historic claim or right to any land. One only needs to claim they're a hereditary chief
00:03:00.360 of a fictional band and they're bestowed with blanket veto authority over any project. Not
00:03:06.220 enough people are covering this, guys, and what this means. The alleged nation that objected to
00:03:10.880 the province isn't recognized by governments on any level. So how on earth is a company
00:03:15.960 or government supposed to identify, find, and consult adequately with these groups as they
00:03:20.740 spawn like dandelions in spring? The answer is that they can't. It really has become impossible
00:03:26.020 to reach the invisible bar of consultation required to do anything of significance in Canada.
00:03:31.260 It's not that the consultation hasn't been done. There's a whole sub-industry worth billions of
00:03:35.800 dollars that's developed over the years specializing in consultation. Companies are willing to meet
00:03:39.960 with every Indigenous person within 200 miles of a project and have spent enough consultation over
00:03:45.460 the years to have done so. The problem, though, is as long as one Indigenous person remains 1.00
00:03:49.300 unsatisfied, an activist judge is going to say there wasn't enough consultation and they will
00:03:53.400 shut things down. A reminder, Section 35 of the Canadian Constitution doesn't call for
00:03:58.280 constitution. It sure as hell doesn't call for consent from Indigenous people. The duty to 0.99
00:04:02.720 consult was read into the Constitution in 2004 by Supreme Court justices. And even then, the judges
00:04:09.340 made it clear this didn't offer veto authority to Indigenous bands. Unfortunately, when judges
00:04:14.280 refuse to recognize what the bar for adequate consultation is, though, the duty to consult
00:04:20.700 has become a de facto veto authority. Not only for Indigenous bands, but for small groups that
00:04:26.080 identify now as bands under the leadership of self-appointed hereditary chiefs. No government
00:04:31.520 nor court has the balls to finally say enough is enough and push back against this creeping 0.86
00:04:36.440 regulatory mire, and it hasn't served anybody. No matter how much they're indulged, these 0.91
00:04:41.540 Indigenous activists and chiefs are only becoming more indignant, more belligerent. Pandering to 1.00
00:04:46.200 their insatiable appetite for pursuing authority over all things has only made them hungrier.
00:04:51.220 Canada's already lost a trillion dollars in potential investment over the last decade due
00:04:55.040 to the terrible regulatory environment it's under. This trend is only going to become worse
00:04:59.000 as layer after layer of consultation requirements are dumped on governments and companies by
00:05:03.620 appointed judges. Who in their right mind is going to invest in a major project in Canada right now
00:05:08.400 when the rug can be pulled out at any moment due to a complaint from a self-styled chief
00:05:12.660 along with a ruling by a judge who wants to make their mark on the judicial system? Getting major
00:05:18.440 projects completed has gone from difficult to impossible in Canada. The blame lands on the
00:05:23.780 governments and the justices who are too cowardly to do what's right and just finally say no to
00:05:28.660 Indigenous activists for a change. This will do nothing for that other impossible goal set for
00:05:35.380 reconciliation. Canadians have accepted that some poor practices were done in past centuries, but
00:05:40.600 they're becoming exhausted with being told to apologize for it and endlessly being forced to
00:05:46.060 compensate the descendants of the descendants of the aggrieved as the economy falters further due
00:05:51.460 to these consultation requirements. As democracy is denied by consultation requirements and as
00:05:57.020 people could lose their property due to rulings from activist judges in bc the attitudes of
00:06:02.080 canadians is going to change and it's not going to be for the better guys with regards to
00:06:05.840 indigenous relations the only question is how bad is it going to have to get before the legislature
00:06:09.800 legislators find the courage to do what must be done i'm afraid it's going to get a lot worse
00:06:14.580 before it gets better all right well that's kind of what's got me starting today anyways let's
00:06:18.700 check in and see what else is going on with our news editor dave nailer how's it going it's going
00:06:22.020 well how are you i'm all right you got the football fever no i don't watch that stuff
00:06:27.040 Nice.
00:06:27.940 I'm in England today at 2 p.m.
00:06:29.880 I envy your enjoyment of it.
00:06:31.900 Do you realize that right now, sitting in here with you,
00:06:34.440 I am missing Portugal versus the Democratic Republic of Congo?
00:06:38.500 Good heavens, you really have sacrificed for my show.
00:06:40.640 Well, thank you. 0.89
00:06:41.260 Well, you know, just at halftime, the Congo scored a goal,
00:06:44.980 and it was their first goal they've ever scored in the World Cup.
00:06:47.380 There was, I got to admit, there was another underdog story just the other day,
00:06:51.060 where they came to a 0-0.
00:06:52.880 Cape Verde.
00:06:53.520 Yes.
00:06:53.920 There were only 600,000 people there, but they managed to tie one of the greatest teams in the world, Spain.
00:06:59.760 But how many hours to come up with 0-0?
00:07:02.720 How do you stay away?
00:07:03.380 It's 90 minutes.
00:07:05.060 But that was an entertaining game.
00:07:07.040 Okay.
00:07:07.620 Because you were cheering for the underdogs, and every time they made a diving play, you know, you got excited.
00:07:12.020 Well, I understand and appreciate that underdog, you know, mentality in watching those things.
00:07:16.620 It's just such a low-scoring game.
00:07:18.960 I mean, I know there's basketball where that gets boring because they're scoring every five seconds or so.
00:07:22.680 You can't make the nets much bigger, can you?
00:07:24.700 No, you wouldn't think.
00:07:26.920 I'm happy for all of those who enjoy it, though.
00:07:28.900 You know what?
00:07:29.620 It's the greatest time when you've got four matches a day, and it's great.
00:07:34.720 And you see streets of Toronto alive, streets of Vancouver.
00:07:38.220 There's actually people out downtown Vancouver at 9 o'clock at night now.
00:07:42.800 We have the tourists and whatnot that are in town stepping over the dead people.
00:07:47.960 But there you go.
00:07:49.600 Anyway, so I've got so much news going on.
00:07:51.460 uh why don't we start with a soccer story a football sure let's go there you know we were
00:07:56.440 just sort of joking about the tragedy of drugs and overdoses in in uh in Vancouver bad bad batches
00:08:04.920 of fentanyl and whatnot so FIFA who organizes the world cup they they really don't want tourists
00:08:10.400 dying so they put out a how-to guide on how to use illegal drugs if you're visiting Vancouver
00:08:17.920 Well, I mean, it's true.
00:08:19.180 If you're going to visit the east side of Vancouver, I mean,
00:08:22.340 if you really want to experience the city, you should try a little fentanyl
00:08:25.020 or meth or something.
00:08:26.060 Yeah, scary.
00:08:29.020 Treaty chiefs issued a call today for the RCMP to investigate Daniel Smith
00:08:35.240 for treason.
00:08:36.280 Yes.
00:08:37.340 Is treason still a firing squad offense in Canada?
00:08:40.320 I don't think so, but it's got some pretty serious penalties as far
00:08:42.880 as Canadian law goes. 0.98
00:08:44.620 Personally, I think these chiefs are insane. 0.98
00:08:46.520 Yes, a little bit. 0.85
00:08:47.240 But chances of the RCMP even launching that investigation is slim to none.
00:08:53.220 We've got a story that a lot of the mainstream media is not covering.
00:08:57.480 And it's a report on the British rape gangs.
00:09:00.520 This was a report done several hundred pages on the problems with immigrant, mainly Pakistani, rape gangs. 0.55
00:09:07.460 Throughout England, a lot in northern England, they found that 250,000 white girls had been raped.
00:09:15.740 And the government, I mean, people have been caught and they've been sent, you know, sent to jail.
00:09:21.280 But the government has remained silent on it.
00:09:24.080 And, you know, nobody's getting deported.
00:09:26.680 And there's not a single mainstream British media outlet that has covered this report yet.
00:09:31.880 You know the citizens on the ground are aware of this.
00:09:34.320 There's going to be more riots.
00:09:36.220 Absolutely, the citizens are aware of it.
00:09:38.320 I think that's probably what the media is concerned about is they don't want to stoke, you know, they don't want to poke the bear.
00:09:43.840 and they don't want to be responsible for the...
00:09:46.060 No, but putting it off only makes it worse.
00:09:48.340 You've got to have that discussion.
00:09:50.580 The federal government report on MAID is coming out later on today.
00:09:56.180 We've got some details at the moment that they are going to recommend
00:09:59.700 that MAID is not extended to mentally ill people.
00:10:03.200 But there are a couple of senators that will apparently be issuing
00:10:06.520 a scathing dissenting report that they should be.
00:10:09.740 So I'm not sure what their rationale is.
00:10:13.840 Our friends at Second Street have got a really interesting story out today.
00:10:18.300 They're looking at problem visitors with the health care system.
00:10:23.900 Incredibly, 26,000 Albertans last year visited a doctor more than 50 times.
00:10:31.860 26,000, 50 times.
00:10:34.200 9,300 Albertans visited a doctor 100 times last year.
00:10:40.020 So you've got a very small number of patients taking up a lot of doctor time.
00:10:46.120 Meanwhile, people can't get a doctor themselves.
00:10:49.820 I'm glad Second Street, you know, Colin there has been doing great work poking into those things everybody's scared to talk about.
00:10:56.220 I mean, the inefficiencies in this.
00:10:57.480 I'm sure there's some people with chronic conditions that need to see a doctor that often, but we know there's going to be some hypochondriacs or lonely people or whatever else that are just taking advantage of the system.
00:11:06.780 Exactly.
00:11:07.140 Okay, so those are some of the stories we've got up.
00:11:10.200 I'll talk quickly about some of the stories that are coming.
00:11:13.280 Danielle Smith holding a press conference at 2 p.m.
00:11:17.080 Really, really bad timing because it's just at the kickoff of the England game,
00:11:21.300 so I've already sent her a nasty note.
00:11:25.100 They're going to be announcing our legislature reporter, Will Vassar,
00:11:29.440 crunched the math last weekend, and we will be getting the fuel tax savings.
00:11:34.360 So I think that's 12 or 13 cents.
00:11:36.240 And there is some rumblings that we've made so much money in the last couple of months with the Iran war that maybe she's going to send out a check to individual Albertans.
00:11:46.100 We used to have Ralph Bucks, but this could be Danny Bucks.
00:11:49.660 Well, it's amazing how fast our money comes back to us when the party in power slips a little in the polls.
00:11:54.460 Exactly. Isn't that funny?
00:11:56.080 But it looks like we could be turning around a potential $8 billion deficit into a $9 billion surplus.
00:12:02.340 So there you go. We've got an exclusive story from our Leah Mushet that's going to be going up on a Calgary teacher who was forced by her school to visit Hindu temples and and seek religious places in order to to, I guess, understand where their their children's or their students are coming from.
00:12:27.060 Uh, some kids, uh, apparently are at this school as more than 50%, uh, uh, immigrant population.
00:12:35.880 Uh, so they're, they're told that you can't wish them a Merry Christmas or anything like that, but you can't say happy, happy Eid.
00:12:42.740 And I guess they're, they're being forced to tour these places, uh, uh, to see how the, uh, the other half, uh, praise.
00:12:49.640 No, no visiting churches.
00:12:51.920 No.
00:12:52.600 Just temples and. 1.00
00:12:54.400 Synagogues at least. 0.53
00:12:55.480 No, no synagogues. 1.00
00:12:56.560 No. 0.99
00:12:57.060 No, no, no, just Southeast Asian stuff.
00:13:02.060 And a story you're familiar with, Corey, Sundry.
00:13:05.840 Earlier this week, the Sundry Rodeo Parade was canceled.
00:13:11.880 Float wanted to go in it. 0.84
00:13:14.060 That was supporting independence.
00:13:15.940 And there was all sorts of argy, bargy, and eventually they just canceled the whole thing.
00:13:20.600 Well, that is...
00:13:21.340 You're taking one of Rick's terms.
00:13:23.460 I gave Rick that term.
00:13:25.540 I mean, Todd Rick, everything he knows.
00:13:27.840 I lost my train of thought.
00:13:30.280 Sorry about that.
00:13:31.580 Saturday, a whole group of independence people,
00:13:34.500 they're going to hold their own rally.
00:13:36.740 They're going to get in their pickup trucks and wave flags
00:13:39.300 and take over downtown Sundry and have their own parade.
00:13:44.480 So that's going to be some fun.
00:13:45.960 It's going to be a lively weekend out in Sundry.
00:13:48.020 Are you the parade marshal?
00:13:49.060 Oh, no, I'm not going.
00:13:50.100 I got things I have to do that day, but it'll be, you know,
00:13:54.060 If I could, I would go.
00:13:55.360 It would be very interesting.
00:13:56.320 It's going to be a fun afternoon.
00:13:57.880 All right.
00:13:58.420 So we'll be, our Dave Winnick will be on the scene on Saturday.
00:14:01.800 So tune in for his reports.
00:14:03.860 All right on.
00:14:04.360 Well, it's a beautiful time to get out to the foothills in Sundry anyway.
00:14:07.040 It's not raining.
00:14:08.200 It's snowing.
00:14:09.140 We'll see.
00:14:09.960 It was a chilly autumn morning today.
00:14:11.640 It was.
00:14:12.420 Well, we'll get there.
00:14:13.560 We'll get there eventually.
00:14:14.640 All right.
00:14:14.960 Well, thank you.
00:14:15.460 I'll let you back to catch up on your football scores.
00:14:17.960 Thank you. 1.00
00:14:18.360 I'm dying to see how the Congo's doing. 1.00
00:14:20.760 One foot out the doors. 1.00
00:14:22.080 There you go.
00:14:22.500 Let's do it.
00:14:22.840 Thanks for the update, Dave.
00:14:23.740 All right, guys, that is our news editor, Dave Naylor.
00:14:26.700 When he's not watching football, he is covering all sorts of stories,
00:14:30.220 domestic and abroad, and wrangling all those reporters,
00:14:33.360 bringing that content in.
00:14:34.740 Just before I get to my guest, I just like to remind everybody
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00:14:53.740 just like a newspaper subscription. It's not too much. So I got Michelle Sterling in. I know
00:14:57.320 she's got a busy day, so I'll bring her in right away so she could talk, because I really did want
00:15:01.600 to discuss this from a column she'd provided us at the Western Standard recently. So thank you
00:15:07.080 very much for joining us today, Michelle. It's been a while. My pleasure. Thanks, Corey. Yeah,
00:15:12.020 it has been. And you cover a lot, and I know your most recent piece for the Standard is on solar
00:15:17.440 power and things which is also a fantastic read uh but also you discuss the indigenous file a lot
00:15:25.440 as do i and uh this latest group i hadn't even heard of them permanent people's tribunal what
00:15:33.360 that on earth is this well this is an organization that was set up in around 1967 based on the
00:15:41.760 Algeria Human Rights People's Declaration, which is different than the Universal Declaration of
00:15:48.400 Human Rights, which was done in 1948. And so they are an opinion tribunal, but they make rather
00:15:57.600 sweeping generalizations and condemnations like they condemned Canada of continuing genocide
00:16:06.480 and human rights violations after four days of hearings in Montreal, and the thing that
00:16:13.040 I think Canadians should be concerned about is who funded this group, who brought this
00:16:17.440 group here? Is our own government funding these kinds of people? And of course, our government
00:16:24.400 never sent any comment or representative to defend the country. So you have this flock of 1.00
00:16:31.520 self-appointed tribunalists, experts, few of whom are even lawyers, decide to condemn an entire
00:16:40.880 country. And I think the key point is that people have to realize there's a whole stack of these
00:16:46.660 human rights reports stacking up at the UN. And the day after UNDRIP received royal assent
00:16:55.380 on June 22nd, China of 2021, China and all of its despot allies, Russia, Iran, North Korea, 0.86
00:17:04.340 Venezuela, they all went before the Human Rights Commission in Geneva, the UN panel
00:17:11.820 on human rights, and they condemned Canada of human rights crimes, citing the Kamloops 215.
00:17:20.840 So this becomes very pivotal. And to my mind, it's very curious that this coalition was so
00:17:26.760 quickly gathered together immediately on the passing of UNDRIP. And of course UNDRIP is the
00:17:33.000 lever that's now being used in many of these land back claims. And as you pointed out,
00:17:40.040 a lot of these tribes are, I think there's, you know, 150 tribes who have fewer than 100 people,
00:17:48.520 something like that 63 that are fewer than 500 so of the 650 tribes first nations in Canada
00:17:57.640 a lot of them have almost no people you know they're not actually a nation they don't fit
00:18:03.080 the definition of a nation so my concern is that our new strategic partner is China is also the
00:18:10.640 leader of a group of despot nations that's accused us of genocide and human rights crimes at the UN
00:18:17.540 And I see this whole Permanent People's Tribunal as setting a trap for us geopolitically.
00:18:24.540 And we're just sailing along, not even paying any attention.
00:18:28.960 Well, that's, I mean, yeah, this slid right under the radar.
00:18:31.300 And these are very serious accusations that we're talking to the United Nations, that
00:18:34.960 we're talking about an international house where I understand, you know, some activists
00:18:40.300 have spread the definition of genocide to everything from chicken farms to you name
00:18:46.060 it.
00:18:46.280 but we know realistically, those of us with some sense that there's been some horrible acts of
00:18:51.840 humanity done over the last century that certainly qualify as a genocide. And it insults people to
00:18:59.020 call some of these other, you know, issues with calling Canada a genocidal country is just beyond
00:19:05.480 the pale. And then not to have Canada have anybody on the ground to at least defend us over this.
00:19:10.340 Right. And in fact, they should never have passed judgment because according to the
00:19:16.240 Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was written and codified in 1948. I believe it was,
00:19:24.480 you know, it's fundamental that a person has an absolute right, and a country I foresee as a
00:19:30.720 person as well, an entity, right, has a right to a free and fair trial with all proper defense
00:19:38.800 and a presumption of innocence. A presumption of innocence is a fundamental element of rule of law.
00:19:45.440 So you can find it in section 11 of the charter. It's a fundamental to British law for centuries.
00:19:53.200 You know, you may be accused, but you are to be presumed innocent until proven in a court of law
00:20:00.960 with evidence. So, you know, these guys just had a bunch of activists there. One of the main
00:20:06.640 star witnesses was Kimberly Murray, and some people will be familiar with her name.
00:20:12.640 She was the special interlocutor for unmarked burials and missing children related to Indian
00:20:20.160 residential schools. So she had a two and a half year stint at that where she visited all these
00:20:26.960 sharing circles. Well the group that hosted this permanent people's tribunal also hosted one of
00:20:34.640 her sharing circles and also a little tiny non-profit in Montreal got a million dollars
00:20:40.320 from I believe it was from the Department of Justice to do that. So you know this little group
00:20:46.560 it's a non-profit or a charity, sorry charity, it doesn't represent 41 million Canadians.
00:20:52.480 It represents a very small group and they had Kimberly Murray who had also declared that she
00:20:58.480 wrote the reports for the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. So we have this continuum of a one
00:21:04.800 woman show condemning Canada and all of her reports escalated you know it initially began with like
00:21:12.000 we think some kids are missing and I'm Mark Graves should be discovered and marked and family members
00:21:18.160 should be notified when files are available you know then it grew from that to her final report
00:21:25.040 as special interlocutor that the government had disappeared people as if we were in Guatemala or
00:21:32.160 Argentina where you know during military coups the government literally did disappear people
00:21:38.320 but in Canada these alleged disappeared people have no names and they also have no family members
00:21:44.560 standing there with a picture saying this is my brother he went missing under the military coup
00:21:50.640 on this date and we don't know where he is you know we don't have anyone like that we don't have
00:21:56.400 any list of names of children alleged to be missing and now we even have the globe and mail
00:22:04.800 stepping back and saying oh by the way we didn't really research that story about the
00:22:09.760 you know 215 in kamloops sorry yeah well and i'm glad that the globe at least kind of admitted
00:22:16.000 that okay it was a we looks like we reported on a hoax there's not any children buried at the
00:22:20.400 kamloops residential school sorry about that no harm no foul they're moving on uh but we need
00:22:25.280 something more than that as you're saying these activists these groups are going to international
00:22:30.640 events and using that to cite bad canadian behavior they're promoting a hoax and calling
00:22:36.400 us genocidal over it how on earth are we ever going to rectify i mean we know what has to be
00:22:42.560 done we've got to get a shovel but well and not only a shovel but you know what are we doing to
00:22:50.560 little children. You know all of our children at school have been told and they've had to
00:22:55.200 participate in various kinds of rituals to you know tie orange ribbons, 215 orange ribbons to
00:23:04.080 the school fence and wear an orange hair shirt and beat themselves with a cat or nine tails for
00:23:09.840 being descended from people who built a beautiful country. You know how are we going to ever reshape
00:23:16.240 their minds. It's really a travesty. Can I put in a quick plug? Of course. I'm going to be talking
00:23:24.060 with Tanya Gaw on Action for Canada about the Globe and Mail apology. And you know, when you said
00:23:31.060 no harm, sorry, no harm done. Well, 100 churches were burnt or vandalized and two people died in
00:23:36.700 one of those fires. So this misreporting by the Globe and Mail had very serious consequences,
00:23:42.120 Not to mention, I'm sure that China and its buddies will be citing Globe and Mail stories, all 63 of them or 61 of them with mass grave.
00:23:52.320 They will be citing them as, as if fact, right? 0.89
00:23:58.460 Oh, yeah. And I didn't mean that there was no harm, no foul in what was done, just some of the attitude from them.
00:24:03.380 Okay, we did a retraction, we'll just let it go.
00:24:05.040 So, but, you know, some of the problems is, as you kind of pointed out, this self-loathing
00:24:10.140 that they're trying to instill in school children.
00:24:12.260 And even with some of the, I mean, some of the bad things happened in points in history
00:24:16.780 farther back, you know, the Kamloops thing is extremely questionable, but there's things
00:24:20.640 that may have happened, absolutely.
00:24:22.500 But I look at, you know, a relatively contemporary example of real genocide with what happened
00:24:28.280 in World War II. 0.70
00:24:29.080 and uh germany you know has certainly accepted and owned uh you know the the bad doings of the time
00:24:35.540 but they're they're not shaming young german children coming up through school now because
00:24:40.960 of what happened back in the in the 30s and 40s uh you know i think as a nation they've accepted
00:24:46.180 that it was dead wrong and they've certainly paid everybody paid a horrible price for it
00:24:49.960 but there's not this perpetual ongoing multi-generational shaming that's happening
00:24:55.600 in Germany that we're seeing with this indigenous state that we have in Canada, where, I don't know,
00:25:01.340 my great-grandchildren might have to do land acknowledgements and say that they're genocidal 0.98
00:25:06.100 settlers. I mean, this is a reprogramming that we've got to push back against.
00:25:11.620 Yeah, well, and it has very many Maoist characteristics to it. I did an article a
00:25:17.480 while ago on my substack about George Manuel. You maybe heard that the RCMP files revealed that they
00:25:23.700 been secretly surveilling him. Well, and good thing that they did because the early Red Power 1.00
00:25:30.660 movement across North America was quite connected to the Black Panthers and also to Maoist, Leninist 0.98
00:25:39.460 ideology. And it's funny, you know, back in the day, well, what is now the AFN? I guess it was
00:25:51.220 and National Indian Brotherhood then, they presented a model of how they thought land
00:25:56.660 back and such like should be. And it was Jean Chrétien and Len Marchand who said,
00:26:01.860 gee, you know, people might wake up in BC one day and find out they don't live in Canada anymore.
00:26:07.220 That was like 30 years ago. That was all related to this kind of Maoist movement. And people don't
00:26:14.180 realize that there was a contingent of Aboriginal people from Canada who went on a state-sponsored
00:26:21.220 trip to China back in 1975, I think it was. And they now have developed a First Nations critical
00:26:29.700 minerals strategy, a BC First Nations China enterprise strategy. So they are taking it
00:26:40.340 upon themselves to act as if they are nations these little tiny groups and exploit whatever
00:26:47.620 resources they have access to with directly with another nation uh and i don't think canadians are
00:26:54.660 aware that this is happening yeah well all we can do is keep trying to bring awareness to it i'll
00:27:00.660 let you go i know you got to get running so with your sub stack and other areas where can people
00:27:04.100 find more of your your work in your writing michelle well i have a blog michellesterling.com
00:27:09.540 that's with an i in sterling and my sub stack michelle sterling and i'm also on medium and
00:27:17.060 youtube and you can also see my mini documentary rebutting the film sugarcane it's called the
00:27:25.540 bitter roots of sugarcane you can see that on rumble so there's a few spots all right well
00:27:31.860 thank you very much uh you know we just got to keep talking about these things and pushing and
00:27:36.100 hopefully some common sense will eventually sink in, but boy, what a crazy environment we're
00:27:40.360 living in right now. So thank you again. And I hope we get to talk again soon. I won't have such
00:27:44.840 a gap between our interviews this time. Okay. Thank you. See ya. Thanks, Michelle.
00:27:49.800 So you guys, if you even want to look it up on both, you know, sustainability, environmental
00:27:53.620 issues, Michelle's been fantastic with that and prolific and on this, this ongoing indigenous 1.00
00:28:00.320 ridiculousness that's going on. It's good to see somebody stepped up in the comment area to show 1.00
00:28:04.840 the misinformation about what a genocide is. Brett Boyle keeps talking about the genocide in Palestine
00:28:09.840 and it's been going on for decades. That's just either a complete misunderstanding on what's
00:28:14.160 happening over there or outright misinformation. Actually, I was there a few months ago. It's
00:28:19.900 pretty terrible what's happening in Israel and Gaza and areas such as that. It is, and it's a
00:28:26.280 war and there's been bad things done by both sides, but it's not genocide, dude. Populations
00:28:31.800 don't grow when they're suffering under genocide for decades. I believe the Jewish population still
00:28:38.100 hasn't quite caught up to where it was back in the 40s yet. That's genocide. Check out Rwanda. 0.99
00:28:43.260 That's genocide. A bunch of aggrieved Islamic extremists who FAFO'd themselves 0.80
00:28:48.320 and got the consequences of it. Tragic, messy, ugly, but it's not genocide. Quit calling every 0.85
00:28:58.320 little issue you don't like, genocide, because that's not what it is. And it undercuts the real
00:29:04.040 genocides that are happening over there in the world in general. And they tell you, if Israel 0.99
00:29:10.680 wanted to wipe out every person in Gaza, they could have done it within hours of October 7th. 0.63
00:29:16.320 They had the ability. So either way, that's where these discussions go, right? You know, 0.95
00:29:21.400 the people with the baloney about whether Canada committed genocide or others and things such as
00:29:26.020 that. It's destructive, it's divisive, and it's not doing anybody any favors or solving any
00:29:32.960 problems. It's just mostly people with an extreme leftist agenda that try to use extreme buzzwords
00:29:38.400 to make a point. All right, let's see what else we've got going on. I'll bring things a little
00:29:45.280 lighter. Interesting. Dave brought it up, and there's going to be a press conference this
00:29:51.660 afternoon with Premier Smith talking about, and there's been pressure on that. I think I wrote a
00:29:56.280 column on that getting on her case a bit. We were supposed to at least cut the amount of gas tax 1.00
00:30:03.240 that we're paying in Alberta if the oil prices get high enough, and they never quite got around to
00:30:06.960 that. It sounds like that might be coming. And then as Dave said, yes, the Danny bucks could
00:30:10.500 be coming along right away, which, you know, why is it done? As it works. This is a response of
00:30:17.980 Premier Smith seeing a slump in the polls, you know, she's been, I think in general,
00:30:22.600 and I get, uh, you know, flack for that, but I think in general, she's been pretty good,
00:30:26.600 but she's prone to being reactive prone to, I think a little bit of panic when things slip a
00:30:33.200 little bit, that's part of the, the bizarre, uh, uh, release, you know, that she put out or
00:30:40.440 statement she put out when she was going on about that $400 billion, uh, you know, cost of transition
00:30:45.380 if Alberta became independent and stuff like that, that was a response to slipping in the
00:30:51.380 polls and then they get afraid and think that, and then they overcorrect. Either way, you know,
00:30:55.820 putting money back in the pockets of Albertans doesn't harm that much, but it does reduce
00:31:02.920 credibility. Are we conservatives or not? The deficit when the oil prices were low was way
00:31:09.420 too high for a province that's ostensibly fiscally responsible. We should be taking the windfall
00:31:16.040 from the high energy prices and eliminating the debt. Get rid of it. Go back to net zero where
00:31:21.480 Ralph Klein brought us. Then we can start talking about handing money out. But the reason is it
00:31:28.920 works. Ralph Klein did that a long time ago when his support was starting to slide a bit too.
00:31:33.080 and uh it worked it brought his support numbers up everybody got a check in their hands i think
00:31:39.640 for 400 bucks and that was you know 20 some years ago that's a lot of money uh in the hands of of
00:31:45.840 you know people at that time and it made them more endeared to the government and it kept
00:31:49.740 client in power but it's not responsible policy it's it's not good policy but i don't expect it
00:31:57.160 to stop. This is the, uh, uh, nature of politics and it's the nature of our own
00:32:01.900 citizenry where we're easily bought off.
00:32:04.780 I guess you could say by a few bucks in hand, uh, rather than looking at the big
00:32:08.380 picture, one of the things that really helped Alberta through some of the tougher
00:32:11.620 times, because we don't get equalization, no matter how bad the oil prices get.
00:32:15.780 But remember 2008, when things crashed all over North America and including
00:32:19.120 energy prices, Alberta was hurting.
00:32:21.780 It was tough to get any kind of work in the energy sector, but part of why it
00:32:25.300 wasn't so bad was that at least Ralph Klein and the Albertans in the 90s who tightened their belt
00:32:30.800 had knocked off the debt so we didn't have massive debt servicing charges to pay for. I mean the debt
00:32:35.480 was already starting to grow again by then but it wasn't massive. Now we've been bloating it for
00:32:40.040 years and I understand that there's going to be surplus territory and I'm sure that Premier Smith
00:32:45.620 is going to announce some of it's going to go towards the debt but realistically a responsible
00:32:50.240 conservative should be saying we're going to put every extra dollar in the surplus towards the
00:32:54.180 debt until the debt is gone. Because one of the worst things to waste your money on in the world,
00:32:58.620 everybody knowing it from their household budget, one of the most painful things is interest.
00:33:02.940 It's just burned money. If you don't have to carry the credit card debt, don't. If you could buy a
00:33:09.480 house for cash, Lord knows I can't, but it would certainly be a nice way. I mean, look at the
00:33:14.900 amount when you, over the course of paying a mortgage off that you've paid an interest.
00:33:24.500 And that's what we're paying on this, this provincial debt is, is, is a, you know, a pile
00:33:32.540 of interest that we don't have to be. And meanwhile, the dollars are coming out to try and keep
00:33:36.160 Albertans happy. So, you know, another interesting discussion, this is where I differ with some of
00:33:40.960 the, um, you know, followers and so on on this with me, medical assistance and dying. I did have
00:33:48.240 some time back, uh, one of the lawyers from Sue Rodriguez's case, they used to call it assisted
00:33:52.900 suicide back then where somebody was really, um, terminal in a bad way and so on and looking for
00:33:59.800 help on coming out. They didn't anticipate it was going to come into this stuff and go as badly as
00:34:06.840 it would to the point where we're talking about offering it to people with mental health issues.
00:34:12.080 It's just beyond the pale. I'm glad that even, um, even a federal committee is realizing they've
00:34:19.620 overstepped for the most part. As Dave said, some senators are going to come out and talk about how
00:34:22.600 horrific it is to deny people with mental health issues. It's, it's, it's, it's absurd, but I, you
00:34:27.580 know, there's some people on the other side, so there should just never be made under any
00:34:30.640 circumstance. It shouldn't be offered. It shouldn't be a consideration in the system. I don't agree
00:34:34.980 with them there either though. It's easy to say that that shouldn't be an option if you're not
00:34:39.820 the one suffering in an agonizing condition with a terminal diagnosis and then you have two options
00:34:46.040 for what might be a few months of existence, which would be either being in agonizing pain
00:34:51.460 or drugged to the point of not really being coherent for those last months. And some people
00:34:58.120 for religious reasons or whatever else might feel that's still the way to go, hang on right to the
00:35:02.060 end. But you know what? I will not put myself in the shoes of somebody who's in that kind of
00:35:08.060 condition who says, you know what? I just want to bring this to an end now and let them make that
00:35:11.480 choice. But you have to set a bar. And some of those bars are pretty straightforward. I think
00:35:17.180 they were kind of in the right place before. You know, you had to have multiple doctors on it. You
00:35:21.720 had to be terminal, not a case of ongoing and bad. It had to be terminal. There's no curing it. You
00:35:27.820 know that you're reaching towards the end and has to be debilitating.
00:35:31.480 I think a lot of people have terminal, uh, diagnosis on things.
00:35:34.900 I mean, if they can still maintain a little bit of a standard of living and
00:35:38.920 you know, they'll want to hang on as long as they can, but now you get into
00:35:42.580 mental health, which is a disease and people suffer and people with mental
00:35:47.680 health issues are having a terrible time, but these are the exact people who can't
00:35:52.420 make an informed judgment about whether or not they should be alive.
00:35:56.600 offering made for that is just going way too far. I'm sorry, I'm just watching the moron in the 0.99
00:36:05.220 commenter there, Brett. He's like, I'm more interested in Corey openly admitting he was 0.98
00:36:09.080 just in Israel. Yes, I traveled to Israel. You know there's a war over there? Journalists cover
00:36:15.180 that. Openly admitting it was never a secret, peckerhead. And so I was there. You were just a
00:36:21.080 YouTube commenter who is thankfully demonstrating the foolishness of this extreme leftist crap that 1.00
00:36:29.880 goes, you know, puts out completely ignorant statements with no clue on what's happening 1.00
00:36:34.360 in the Middle East. So please, Brett, explain further for the rest of the commenters on there.
00:36:39.700 For those who want more, you know, reasonable discussions on things, we'll just carry on with
00:36:45.200 that. I'll leave his comments alone. Man, he's a winner. All right. The other thing, you know,
00:36:50.560 that I really, I was hoping to get Colin Craig on.
00:36:52.580 I'll get him to talk sometime soon.
00:36:53.880 He talks on secondstreet.org.
00:36:56.080 He runs that group and they do dig into the healthcare things excellently and exposing
00:37:01.780 some of those things with the inefficiencies of ours.
00:37:03.700 Because people come to that conclusion a lot when we're talking about thousands of Canadians
00:37:08.720 making over a hundred doctor visits a year in their report.
00:37:11.160 They look at those numbers.
00:37:12.000 They look at those dollars.
00:37:13.500 What would stop that?
00:37:15.380 A user fee.
00:37:17.120 A user fee.
00:37:17.980 We've got a whole lot of people we know who are, as I said to Dave, hypochondriacs or lonely or
00:37:26.580 have mental health issues, bringing in their kids every time the kid gets the sniffles when you
00:37:30.860 didn't need to see a doctor for it, you know, every time you stubbed a toe. A lot of those 0.81
00:37:35.360 people, if it was even $10 or $20 a visit, might suddenly reconsider how often they're going. But
00:37:40.780 we do have a universal system. We have to find a way to distinguish, you know, somebody who might
00:37:47.480 be very sick with a chronic condition who has to see a doctor once a week, twice a week, if they're
00:37:52.740 that sick. And we don't want to punish them and bankrupt them because they have a user fee each
00:37:56.620 time. But I think we can find those levels. You know, we can find things for people under a certain
00:38:01.700 degree of income. Don't want somebody who's really sick not to go to a doctor because they couldn't
00:38:05.180 afford $20 or something. But I think it's not unfair for most of us who have jobs who are
00:38:10.660 relatively healthy to think, yeah, you know what? I can cough up 20 bucks when I go to the doctor
00:38:14.200 to see them about something. It's not that hard. And I suspect it would reduce a whole heck of a
00:38:18.880 lot of it. Roseanne Hutchins saying, didn't we have user fees in the early eighties? I don't
00:38:23.420 think so. I would have been a kid at that point, I guess. But we did have the Alberta healthcare
00:38:31.240 premiums, which I don't think was necessarily the best thing around either. Part of the point of
00:38:36.420 that was that people just can't, it was just a tax. I mean, when a government takes it, they call it
00:38:39.460 a premium, but it's a tax. And we used to have to pay a monthly thing for healthcare. That stopped
00:38:43.340 sometime, I think what, in the late nineties or so, but it gave a misimpression to some people
00:38:50.020 that they were paying the full amount of their healthcare costs or things like that. I remember
00:38:55.160 online discussions with, uh, you know, uh, again, a misinformed leftist from back then. He was
00:38:59.540 saying, you know, the healthcare over here is so far more expensive. It costs this much in this
00:39:03.580 country and that much in that country as he defended the status quo. And here it only costs
00:39:06.960 me 400 a year. Well, no, your healthcare premiums cost you 400 a year, but the healthcare coverage,
00:39:13.320 for you cost about $8,000 to $10,000 back in those days per year. It gives a false impression
00:39:20.040 of how much the healthcare actually costs when you add it all up for provision across a province.
00:39:26.120 Just call it a tax then. If you want more tax for more universal coverage in an inefficient system
00:39:30.440 that's collapsing on itself and people dying on waiting lists, then maybe premiums are the way
00:39:33.640 to go with it. But if we actually wanted to do something as, you know, again, just to slow it
00:39:39.320 down a bit, at least make it a little more efficient. Yeah. I think a user fee for seeing
00:39:43.100 a doctor isn't necessarily a bad thing, but we really need to reform that system altogether.
00:39:47.400 I mean, Canada's system is, is truly, truly, uh, collapsing. We're seeing that in every province.
00:39:53.780 It's funny watching the games. It's usually unions. They're at the root of a lot of it.
00:39:57.420 You know, they blame every year. Oh, it's the conservatives did this. The conservatives did
00:40:00.560 that. Well, guess what? It's collapsing in the NDP BC. It's collapsing in NDP Manitoba. It's
00:40:05.760 collapsing in Quebec. It's collapsing in Newfoundland. We've got the exact same thing
00:40:09.240 happening everywhere. We're running out of doctors, running out of space, and people are running out
00:40:13.260 of time waiting to get care. We have to re-evaluate that whole system. And oh no, I'm not looking to
00:40:20.380 Americanize it. I'm sure I'll see that coming from someone soon. Guess what? There are dozens and
00:40:25.620 dozens of systems around the world that provide universal care, which means you don't need a
00:40:29.800 credit card to go in and get care. But they do offer more private options. And guess what? They're
00:40:36.220 outperforming the heck out of us. So why don't we start looking at them and quit the union crap 0.99
00:40:40.980 on holding onto this broken system that's really making people suffer and dragging everybody down 0.93
00:40:45.540 to a lowest common denominator. And the reality is too, the politics of envy are a huge part of it.
00:40:50.040 Oh, that rich guy will be able to get in there faster than me. That'd be unfair.
00:40:53.820 Guess what? If somebody really is that well off, they're going to jump the lines. It's just that
00:40:59.140 they're going to leave the country to do it. They'll go to Vietnam. They'll go to the United 0.99
00:41:02.040 States. They'll go where they can pay to get the care. So you're not stopping them with your 0.97
00:41:06.900 politics of envy, but you are driving their dollars out of the country. Why not have those
00:41:11.760 dollars? Stay here, pay specialists here, fund facilities here. So all of the rest of us can
00:41:19.860 enjoy it. Just get over the envy. Yeah. He might get a little ahead of you. Oh, well get over it.
00:41:24.320 Probably has a bigger house than you. Probably has a nicer car than you. Probably eats better
00:41:28.340 meals than you, has better clothing, and maybe Shtip's a better looking woman than you. Get over 1.00
00:41:33.880 it. Either bring yourself better in life and try and rise in the scrotum pole of humanity, 0.78
00:41:40.960 or get over it. Envy doesn't help anybody. But until then, we'll see this system continue to
00:41:51.060 collapse in among itself anyways. And Alberta has been exceptional for the people abusing it,
00:41:55.800 apparently across the, uh, uh, other, uh, I'm sorry. I just have to laugh. See, Brett is
00:42:02.540 outstanding. You would think I'd put this guy in on purpose. Look at that. He, he came right out.
00:42:06.460 I guess he's not listening to me, trying to Americanize our healthcare. You know, there we
00:42:09.820 go. Right to it, right. Right to the stock lines, man, guys, you gotta get a new playbook. Carry on
00:42:15.000 Brett. You're making my case for me. All right. Some of the current events though. Yes. Sundry.
00:42:19.460 Let's talk about Sundry. That was the whole thing that had happened. There was a parade coming for
00:42:24.780 rodeo. It's been happening for a long time. There was a group that wanted to put a float in that
00:42:28.880 had Alberta flags on it. Nothing else, just Alberta flags. But apparently they decided that
00:42:33.040 was too politicized. A committee, a committee of fools. And the idiots went and blocked that float 1.00
00:42:39.680 whilst allowing Thomas Lukasik's little Forever Canada float. So the double standard enraged a 1.00
00:42:44.680 lot of people. They got a lot of blowback. And then it turned out that they reversed their decision,
00:42:49.800 said they will allow the Alberta float in. But by then it was too late. The toothpaste was out of
00:42:53.760 the tube. And that also brought even more blowback from the crazy federalists. Now, one thing I'm 0.98
00:42:57.900 kind of annoyed with, and I can believe it, there was probably some horrific messaging, emails,
00:43:03.520 phone calls, you name it, that went to them from both sides. And, you know, these committee members
00:43:11.600 shouldn't have to be exposed to being that rude to them. I wish people would calm down. Most people
00:43:15.920 are. It's usually just a few keyboard hammerheads just throwing out belligerence in general on both
00:43:21.720 sides on the fringes, the ends of things, but still they canceled the rodeo. That was the,
00:43:25.140 the, the, the parade, pure cowardice rather than dealing with it anymore. They canceled the whole
00:43:30.760 thing. So what's happening now? An independence, uh, supporting group is going to be bringing a
00:43:39.460 parade to Sundry this Saturday. Anyways, they're getting together. There's going to be a parade
00:43:43.300 and basically saying to Sundry, what are you going to do about it? It's going to be a positive
00:43:46.380 thing from what I've seen. It should be a good time. They should have, uh, a lot of fun at this
00:43:52.300 thing. I like seeing this pushback from people on the ground, citizens saying, you know what,
00:43:55.540 we don't have to wait for you. We aren't waiting for your permission to do this. We're Albertans.
00:44:00.560 We're not going to let a committee of wimps stop what was an annual tradition for generations in
00:44:05.400 the town. They're going to go out and they're going to drive on those streets and they're
00:44:09.020 going to have a good time. The Western standard is going to have somebody out there covering it
00:44:11.920 in person. And, um, uh, well, I just think it's purely Alberta. Uh, just a comment there,
00:44:20.900 Brett Gelley, another, Brett, not the same one. Treason is no longer a capital offense punished
00:44:24.580 by death by military law. Yeah, that's right. We don't have capital punishment in Canada
00:44:28.840 longer. It's still a very serious offense, but, uh, uh, nobody is committing it in Canada. People
00:44:33.820 can look up the definitions of it too. Holding a legal referenda actually is not treason.
00:44:38.480 And Daniel Smith certainly hasn't committed treason, but it really shows the idiocy and hysteria coming from the indigenous, I'll put it in quotes, leadership. 1.00
00:44:48.860 The corruption on those reserves, guys, is overwhelming. 1.00
00:44:51.620 It's just something else.
00:44:53.960 And these chiefs, they don't represent the people on the ground. 0.91
00:44:58.000 The people on the ground, the indigenous reserves are suffering and they're miserable.
00:45:01.080 That's why there are actually 46% of them in a huge, large poll of 3,000 respondents.
00:45:04.900 And it was found 46% of indigenous people on the ground support independence.
00:45:09.360 So, but the chiefs, the chiefs are lining their pockets and calling for treason charges against
00:45:15.560 the premier. You think people are going to take you seriously? Well, the CBC does, but eventually
00:45:21.600 things are going to be had out and these chiefs get beyond reasonable and it's just going to get
00:45:24.240 worse. Uh, Valerie's saying what time does the sundry roll begin? I don't know. I think they're
00:45:27.500 going to converge on sundry about, uh, 10 o'clock in the morning. Just search things out on Facebook.
00:45:31.520 Uh, I think it's like the independence cruise and things like that, or cruise to independence.
00:45:35.020 you'll find the details it's going to be all over it's going to be a very interesting weekend all
00:45:40.320 right guys that's the time i've got for today thank you for tuning in even brett boyle to show
00:45:45.040 just how stupid the left is it's good to see working examples in the wild i'm going to be
00:45:50.200 back next week at this time the pipeline is going to be on tonight we'll break down some more issues 0.98
00:45:54.740 with a panel and uh be sure to like share and all that good stuff so we can keep bypassing
00:46:00.080 the old legacy media gatekeepers of information.
00:46:03.400 Thank you for your time today.
00:46:04.360 We'll see you next week at this time again.
00:46:30.080 Thank you.