Western Standard - June 20, 2026


CORY MORGAN SHOW: Consultation has broken Canada


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In this episode of the Global Energy Show, Cory Morgan rants about the lack of consultation with Indigenous peoples, and the court system's lack of regard for First Nations concerns, and why it's time to ramp things up the civility.

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00:00:00.000 Good day.
00:00:29.580 welcome to the cory morgan show back in our new background studio from the global energy show last
00:00:37.020 week on the floor getting kind of closer to normal now i guess uh lots to cover today lots going on
00:00:43.100 the news things in the independence front things internationally you name it it's all over i'm
00:00:47.340 gonna have michelle sterling on a little while she was with friends of science for a long time
00:00:51.900 it also has been very prolific on a number of issues and we're gonna talk yeah some first
00:00:56.300 nation stuff i'm always covering that she's got more to speak of be sure this is live guys use the
00:01:02.540 comment scroll there put your questions comments ideas notions towards me i appreciate it it keeps
00:01:09.600 things rolling and uh you know also if you have some discussions with each other just make sure
00:01:14.320 to keep it a little civil with each other we've had a lot of uh non-civil stuff going on lately
00:01:19.440 with some stuff in politics and maybe it's time to ramp things down and get a little more rational
00:01:24.260 with things. But either way, we can rant and rave without being bound by too much civility. So
00:01:29.780 I'm going to go on on the latest thing. You can catch this story in the Western Standard from
00:01:33.260 last week. It just still floored me. So I mean, you might student not even be able to erect a
00:01:38.860 garden shed in your backyard without getting consent of indigenous people, perhaps hundreds 0.98
00:01:43.780 of kilometers away. And I mean, does that sound ridiculous? Well, it's no less absurd than any
00:01:48.900 other consultation requirements imposed by activist judge recently. I mean, in BC, it's
00:01:54.080 illegal to enter certain provincial parks at certain times of the year if you're of the wrong
00:01:57.500 race. Nothing's off the table now. Democracy itself is now secondary to Indigenous consultation.
00:02:04.360 It doesn't matter if hundreds of thousands of citizens call for a referendum on an issue, 0.87
00:02:08.060 they're not allowed to even ask the questions in a democratic exercise without somehow gaining
00:02:12.740 unanimous consent from Indigenous chiefs. And I say unanimous because it appears that if even a few
00:02:18.700 complain about the Democratic vote, as was the case with Alberta's proposed referendum,
00:02:23.100 a Liberal-appointed judge will quickly shut down the process, despite the efforts of hundreds of
00:02:27.460 thousands of citizens, just due to the complaints of a handful. It was the chiefs, not the Indigenous
00:02:32.820 people at large who took issue with allowing Albertans to vote on an issue. And who's a chief
00:02:37.920 anyway? An activist judge in BC just shut down a $1.5 billion gold mining project due to a
00:02:45.100 complaint from a self-appointed hereditary chief only represents a few dozen people at best. One
00:02:50.880 doesn't need to be elected by indigenous people as a representative. One doesn't need to have an 1.00
00:02:55.060 actual historic claim or right to any land. One only needs to claim they're a hereditary chief
00:03:00.360 of a fictional band and they're bestowed with blanket veto authority over any project. Not
00:03:06.220 enough people are covering this, guys, and what this means. The alleged nation that objected to
00:03:10.880 the province isn't recognized by governments on any level. So how on earth is a company
00:03:15.960 or government supposed to identify, find, and consult adequately with these groups as they
00:03:20.740 spawn like dandelions in spring? The answer is that they can't. It really has become impossible
00:03:26.020 to reach the invisible bar of consultation required to do anything of significance in Canada.
00:03:31.260 It's not that the consultation hasn't been done. There's a whole sub-industry worth billions of
00:03:35.800 dollars that's developed over the years specializing in consultation. Companies are willing to meet
00:03:39.960 with every Indigenous person within 200 miles of a project and have spent enough consultation over
00:03:45.460 the years to have done so. The problem, though, is as long as one Indigenous person remains 1.00
00:03:49.300 unsatisfied, an activist judge is going to say there wasn't enough consultation and they will
00:03:53.400 shut things down. A reminder, Section 35 of the Canadian Constitution doesn't call for
00:03:58.280 constitution. It sure as hell doesn't call for consent from Indigenous people. The duty to 0.99
00:04:02.720 consult was read into the Constitution in 2004 by Supreme Court justices. And even then, the judges
00:04:09.340 made it clear this didn't offer veto authority to Indigenous bands. Unfortunately, when judges
00:04:14.280 refuse to recognize what the bar for adequate consultation is, though, the duty to consult
00:04:20.700 has become a de facto veto authority. Not only for Indigenous bands, but for small groups that
00:04:26.080 identify now as bands under the leadership of self-appointed hereditary chiefs. No government
00:04:31.520 nor court has the balls to finally say enough is enough and push back against this creeping 0.86
00:04:36.440 regulatory mire, and it hasn't served anybody. No matter how much they're indulged, these 0.91
00:04:41.540 Indigenous activists and chiefs are only becoming more indignant, more belligerent. Pandering to 1.00
00:04:46.200 their insatiable appetite for pursuing authority over all things has only made them hungrier.
00:04:51.220 Canada's already lost a trillion dollars in potential investment over the last decade due
00:04:55.040 to the terrible regulatory environment it's under. This trend is only going to become worse
00:04:59.000 as layer after layer of consultation requirements are dumped on governments and companies by
00:05:03.620 appointed judges. Who in their right mind is going to invest in a major project in Canada right now
00:05:08.400 when the rug can be pulled out at any moment due to a complaint from a self-styled chief
00:05:12.660 along with a ruling by a judge who wants to make their mark on the judicial system? Getting major
00:05:18.440 projects completed has gone from difficult to impossible in Canada. The blame lands on the
00:05:23.780 governments and the justices who are too cowardly to do what's right and just finally say no to
00:05:28.660 Indigenous activists for a change. This will do nothing for that other impossible goal set for
00:05:35.380 reconciliation. Canadians have accepted that some poor practices were done in past centuries, but
00:05:40.600 they're becoming exhausted with being told to apologize for it and endlessly being forced to
00:05:46.060 compensate the descendants of the descendants of the aggrieved as the economy falters further due
00:05:51.460 to these consultation requirements. As democracy is denied by consultation requirements and as
00:05:57.020 people could lose their property due to rulings from activist judges in bc the attitudes of
00:06:02.080 canadians is going to change and it's not going to be for the better guys with regards to
00:06:05.840 indigenous relations the only question is how bad is it going to have to get before the legislature
00:06:09.800 legislators find the courage to do what must be done i'm afraid it's going to get a lot worse
00:06:14.580 before it gets better all right well that's kind of what's got me starting today anyways let's
00:06:18.700 check in and see what else is going on with our news editor dave nailer how's it going it's going
00:06:22.020 well how are you i'm all right you got the football fever no i don't watch that stuff
00:06:27.040 Nice.
00:06:27.940 I'm in England today at 2 p.m.
00:06:29.880 I envy your enjoyment of it.
00:06:31.900 Do you realize that right now, sitting in here with you,
00:06:34.440 I am missing Portugal versus the Democratic Republic of Congo?
00:06:38.500 Good heavens, you really have sacrificed for my show.
00:06:40.640 Well, thank you. 0.89
00:06:41.260 Well, you know, just at halftime, the Congo scored a goal,
00:06:44.980 and it was their first goal they've ever scored in the World Cup.
00:06:47.380 There was, I got to admit, there was another underdog story just the other day,
00:06:51.060 where they came to a 0-0.
00:06:52.880 Cape Verde.
00:06:53.520 Yes.
00:06:53.920 There were only 600,000 people there, but they managed to tie one of the greatest teams in the world, Spain.
00:06:59.760 But how many hours to come up with 0-0?
00:07:02.720 How do you stay away?
00:07:03.380 It's 90 minutes.
00:07:05.060 But that was an entertaining game.
00:07:07.040 Okay.
00:07:07.620 Because you were cheering for the underdogs, and every time they made a diving play, you know, you got excited.
00:07:12.020 Well, I understand and appreciate that underdog, you know, mentality in watching those things.
00:07:16.620 It's just such a low-scoring game.
00:07:18.960 I mean, I know there's basketball where that gets boring because they're scoring every five seconds or so.
00:07:22.680 You can't make the nets much bigger, can you?
00:07:24.700 No, you wouldn't think.
00:07:26.920 I'm happy for all of those who enjoy it, though.
00:07:28.900 You know what?
00:07:29.620 It's the greatest time when you've got four matches a day, and it's great.
00:07:34.720 And you see streets of Toronto alive, streets of Vancouver.
00:07:38.220 There's actually people out downtown Vancouver at 9 o'clock at night now.
00:07:42.800 We have the tourists and whatnot that are in town stepping over the dead people.
00:07:47.960 But there you go.
00:07:49.600 Anyway, so I've got so much news going on.
00:07:51.460 uh why don't we start with a soccer story a football sure let's go there you know we were
00:07:56.440 just sort of joking about the tragedy of drugs and overdoses in in uh in Vancouver bad bad batches
00:08:04.920 of fentanyl and whatnot so FIFA who organizes the world cup they they really don't want tourists
00:08:10.400 dying so they put out a how-to guide on how to use illegal drugs if you're visiting Vancouver
00:08:17.920 Well, I mean, it's true.
00:08:19.180 If you're going to visit the east side of Vancouver, I mean,
00:08:22.340 if you really want to experience the city, you should try a little fentanyl
00:08:25.020 or meth or something.
00:08:26.060 Yeah, scary.
00:08:29.020 Treaty chiefs issued a call today for the RCMP to investigate Daniel Smith
00:08:35.240 for treason.
00:08:36.280 Yes.
00:08:37.340 Is treason still a firing squad offense in Canada?
00:08:40.320 I don't think so, but it's got some pretty serious penalties as far
00:08:42.880 as Canadian law goes. 0.98
00:08:44.620 Personally, I think these chiefs are insane. 0.98
00:08:46.520 Yes, a little bit. 0.85
00:08:47.240 But chances of the RCMP even launching that investigation is slim to none.
00:08:53.220 We've got a story that a lot of the mainstream media is not covering.
00:08:57.480 And it's a report on the British rape gangs.
00:09:00.520 This was a report done several hundred pages on the problems with immigrant, mainly Pakistani, rape gangs. 0.55
00:09:07.460 Throughout England, a lot in northern England, they found that 250,000 white girls had been raped.
00:09:15.740 And the government, I mean, people have been caught and they've been sent, you know, sent to jail.
00:09:21.280 But the government has remained silent on it.
00:09:24.080 And, you know, nobody's getting deported.
00:09:26.680 And there's not a single mainstream British media outlet that has covered this report yet.
00:09:31.880 You know the citizens on the ground are aware of this.
00:09:34.320 There's going to be more riots.
00:09:36.220 Absolutely, the citizens are aware of it.
00:09:38.320 I think that's probably what the media is concerned about is they don't want to stoke, you know, they don't want to poke the bear.
00:09:43.840 and they don't want to be responsible for the...
00:09:46.060 No, but putting it off only makes it worse.
00:09:48.340 You've got to have that discussion.
00:09:50.580 The federal government report on MAID is coming out later on today.
00:09:56.180 We've got some details at the moment that they are going to recommend
00:09:59.700 that MAID is not extended to mentally ill people.
00:10:03.200 But there are a couple of senators that will apparently be issuing
00:10:06.520 a scathing dissenting report that they should be.
00:10:09.740 So I'm not sure what their rationale is.
00:10:13.840 Our friends at Second Street have got a really interesting story out today.
00:10:18.300 They're looking at problem visitors with the health care system.
00:10:23.900 Incredibly, 26,000 Albertans last year visited a doctor more than 50 times.
00:10:31.860 26,000, 50 times.
00:10:34.200 9,300 Albertans visited a doctor 100 times last year.
00:10:40.020 So you've got a very small number of patients taking up a lot of doctor time.
00:10:46.120 Meanwhile, people can't get a doctor themselves.
00:10:49.820 I'm glad Second Street, you know, Colin there has been doing great work poking into those things everybody's scared to talk about.
00:10:56.220 I mean, the inefficiencies in this.
00:10:57.480 I'm sure there's some people with chronic conditions that need to see a doctor that often, but we know there's going to be some hypochondriacs or lonely people or whatever else that are just taking advantage of the system.
00:11:06.780 Exactly.
00:11:07.140 Okay, so those are some of the stories we've got up.
00:11:10.200 I'll talk quickly about some of the stories that are coming.
00:11:13.280 Danielle Smith holding a press conference at 2 p.m.
00:11:17.080 Really, really bad timing because it's just at the kickoff of the England game,
00:11:21.300 so I've already sent her a nasty note.
00:11:25.100 They're going to be announcing our legislature reporter, Will Vassar,
00:11:29.440 crunched the math last weekend, and we will be getting the fuel tax savings.
00:11:34.360 So I think that's 12 or 13 cents.
00:11:36.240 And there is some rumblings that we've made so much money in the last couple of months with the Iran war that maybe she's going to send out a check to individual Albertans.
00:11:46.100 We used to have Ralph Bucks, but this could be Danny Bucks.
00:11:49.660 Well, it's amazing how fast our money comes back to us when the party in power slips a little in the polls.
00:11:54.460 Exactly. Isn't that funny?
00:11:56.080 But it looks like we could be turning around a potential $8 billion deficit into a $9 billion surplus.
00:12:02.340 So there you go. We've got an exclusive story from our Leah Mushet that's going to be going up on a Calgary teacher who was forced by her school to visit Hindu temples and and seek religious places in order to to, I guess, understand where their their children's or their students are coming from.
00:12:27.060 Uh, some kids, uh, apparently are at this school as more than 50%, uh, uh, immigrant population.
00:12:35.880 Uh, so they're, they're told that you can't wish them a Merry Christmas or anything like that, but you can't say happy, happy Eid.
00:12:42.740 And I guess they're, they're being forced to tour these places, uh, uh, to see how the, uh, the other half, uh, praise.
00:12:49.640 No, no visiting churches.
00:12:51.920 No.
00:12:52.600 Just temples and. 1.00
00:12:54.400 Synagogues at least. 0.53
00:12:55.480 No, no synagogues. 1.00
00:12:56.560 No. 0.99
00:12:57.060 No, no, no, just Southeast Asian stuff.
00:13:02.060 And a story you're familiar with, Corey, Sundry.
00:13:05.840 Earlier this week, the Sundry Rodeo Parade was canceled.
00:13:11.880 Float wanted to go in it. 0.84
00:13:14.060 That was supporting independence.
00:13:15.940 And there was all sorts of argy, bargy, and eventually they just canceled the whole thing.
00:13:20.600 Well, that is...
00:13:21.340 You're taking one of Rick's terms.
00:13:23.460 I gave Rick that term.
00:13:25.540 I mean, Todd Rick, everything he knows.
00:13:27.840 I lost my train of thought.
00:13:30.280 Sorry about that.
00:13:31.580 Saturday, a whole group of independence people,
00:13:34.500 they're going to hold their own rally.
00:13:36.740 They're going to get in their pickup trucks and wave flags
00:13:39.300 and take over downtown Sundry and have their own parade.
00:13:44.480 So that's going to be some fun.
00:13:45.960 It's going to be a lively weekend out in Sundry.
00:13:48.020 Are you the parade marshal?
00:13:49.060 Oh, no, I'm not going.
00:13:50.100 I got things I have to do that day, but it'll be, you know,
00:13:54.060 If I could, I would go.
00:13:55.360 It would be very interesting.
00:13:56.320 It's going to be a fun afternoon.
00:13:57.880 All right.
00:13:58.420 So we'll be, our Dave Winnick will be on the scene on Saturday.
00:14:01.800 So tune in for his reports.
00:14:03.860 All right on.
00:14:04.360 Well, it's a beautiful time to get out to the foothills in Sundry anyway.
00:14:07.040 It's not raining.
00:14:08.200 It's snowing.
00:14:09.140 We'll see.
00:14:09.960 It was a chilly autumn morning today.
00:14:11.640 It was.
00:14:12.420 Well, we'll get there.
00:14:13.560 We'll get there eventually.
00:14:14.640 All right.
00:14:14.960 Well, thank you.
00:14:15.460 I'll let you back to catch up on your football scores.
00:14:17.960 Thank you. 1.00
00:14:18.360 I'm dying to see how the Congo's doing. 1.00
00:14:20.760 One foot out the doors. 1.00
00:14:22.080 There you go.
00:14:22.500 Let's do it.
00:14:22.840 Thanks for the update, Dave.
00:14:23.740 All right, guys, that is our news editor, Dave Naylor.
00:14:26.700 When he's not watching football, he is covering all sorts of stories,
00:14:30.220 domestic and abroad, and wrangling all those reporters,
00:14:33.360 bringing that content in.
00:14:34.740 Just before I get to my guest, I just like to remind everybody
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00:14:53.740 just like a newspaper subscription. It's not too much. So I got Michelle Sterling in. I know
00:14:57.320 she's got a busy day, so I'll bring her in right away so she could talk, because I really did want
00:15:01.600 to discuss this from a column she'd provided us at the Western Standard recently. So thank you
00:15:07.080 very much for joining us today, Michelle. It's been a while. My pleasure. Thanks, Corey. Yeah,
00:15:12.020 it has been. And you cover a lot, and I know your most recent piece for the Standard is on solar
00:15:17.440 power and things which is also a fantastic read uh but also you discuss the indigenous file a lot
00:15:25.440 as do i and uh this latest group i hadn't even heard of them permanent people's tribunal what
00:15:33.360 that on earth is this well this is an organization that was set up in around 1967 based on the
00:15:41.760 Algeria Human Rights People's Declaration, which is different than the Universal Declaration of
00:15:48.400 Human Rights, which was done in 1948. And so they are an opinion tribunal, but they make rather
00:15:57.600 sweeping generalizations and condemnations like they condemned Canada of continuing genocide
00:16:06.480 and human rights violations after four days of hearings in Montreal, and the thing that
00:16:13.040 I think Canadians should be concerned about is who funded this group, who brought this
00:16:17.440 group here? Is our own government funding these kinds of people? And of course, our government
00:16:24.400 never sent any comment or representative to defend the country. So you have this flock of 1.00
00:16:31.520 self-appointed tribunalists, experts, few of whom are even lawyers, decide to condemn an entire
00:16:40.880 country. And I think the key point is that people have to realize there's a whole stack of these
00:16:46.660 human rights reports stacking up at the UN. And the day after UNDRIP received royal assent
00:16:55.380 on June 22nd, China of 2021, China and all of its despot allies, Russia, Iran, North Korea, 0.86
00:17:04.340 Venezuela, they all went before the Human Rights Commission in Geneva, the UN panel
00:17:11.820 on human rights, and they condemned Canada of human rights crimes, citing the Kamloops 215.
00:17:20.840 So this becomes very pivotal. And to my mind, it's very curious that this coalition was so
00:17:26.760 quickly gathered together immediately on the passing of UNDRIP. And of course UNDRIP is the
00:17:33.000 lever that's now being used in many of these land back claims. And as you pointed out,
00:17:40.040 a lot of these tribes are, I think there's, you know, 150 tribes who have fewer than 100 people,
00:17:48.520 something like that 63 that are fewer than 500 so of the 650 tribes first nations in Canada
00:17:57.640 a lot of them have almost no people you know they're not actually a nation they don't fit
00:18:03.080 the definition of a nation so my concern is that our new strategic partner is China is also the
00:18:10.640 leader of a group of despot nations that's accused us of genocide and human rights crimes at the UN
00:18:17.540 And I see this whole Permanent People's Tribunal as setting a trap for us geopolitically.
00:18:24.540 And we're just sailing along, not even paying any attention.
00:18:28.960 Well, that's, I mean, yeah, this slid right under the radar.
00:18:31.300 And these are very serious accusations that we're talking to the United Nations, that
00:18:34.960 we're talking about an international house where I understand, you know, some activists
00:18:40.300 have spread the definition of genocide to everything from chicken farms to you name
00:18:46.060 it.
00:18:46.280 but we know realistically, those of us with some sense that there's been some horrible acts of
00:18:51.840 humanity done over the last century that certainly qualify as a genocide. And it insults people to
00:18:59.020 call some of these other, you know, issues with calling Canada a genocidal country is just beyond
00:19:05.480 the pale. And then not to have Canada have anybody on the ground to at least defend us over this.
00:19:10.340 Right. And in fact, they should never have passed judgment because according to the
00:19:16.240 Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was written and codified in 1948. I believe it was,
00:19:24.480 you know, it's fundamental that a person has an absolute right, and a country I foresee as a
00:19:30.720 person as well, an entity, right, has a right to a free and fair trial with all proper defense
00:19:38.800 and a presumption of innocence. A presumption of innocence is a fundamental element of rule of law.
00:19:45.440 So you can find it in section 11 of the charter. It's a fundamental to British law for centuries.
00:19:53.200 You know, you may be accused, but you are to be presumed innocent until proven in a court of law
00:20:00.960 with evidence. So, you know, these guys just had a bunch of activists there. One of the main
00:20:06.640 star witnesses was Kimberly Murray, and some people will be familiar with her name.
00:20:12.640 She was the special interlocutor for unmarked burials and missing children related to Indian
00:20:20.160 residential schools. So she had a two and a half year stint at that where she visited all these
00:20:26.960 sharing circles. Well the group that hosted this permanent people's tribunal also hosted one of
00:20:34.640 her sharing circles and also a little tiny non-profit in Montreal got a million dollars
00:20:40.320 from I believe it was from the Department of Justice to do that. So you know this little group
00:20:46.560 it's a non-profit or a charity, sorry charity, it doesn't represent 41 million Canadians.
00:20:52.480 It represents a very small group and they had Kimberly Murray who had also declared that she
00:20:58.480 wrote the reports for the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. So we have this continuum of a one
00:21:04.800 woman show condemning Canada and all of her reports escalated you know it initially began with like
00:21:12.000 we think some kids are missing and I'm Mark Graves should be discovered and marked and family members
00:21:18.160 should be notified when files are available you know then it grew from that to her final report
00:21:25.040 as special interlocutor that the government had disappeared people as if we were in Guatemala or
00:21:32.160 Argentina where you know during military coups the government literally did disappear people
00:21:38.320 but in Canada these alleged disappeared people have no names and they also have no family members
00:21:44.560 standing there with a picture saying this is my brother he went missing under the military coup
00:21:50.640 on this date and we don't know where he is you know we don't have anyone like that we don't have
00:21:56.400 any list of names of children alleged to be missing and now we even have the globe and mail
00:22:04.800 stepping back and saying oh by the way we didn't really research that story about the
00:22:09.760 you know 215 in kamloops sorry yeah well and i'm glad that the globe at least kind of admitted
00:22:16.000 that okay it was a we looks like we reported on a hoax there's not any children buried at the
00:22:20.400 kamloops residential school sorry about that no harm no foul they're moving on uh but we need
00:22:25.280 something more than that as you're saying these activists these groups are going to international
00:22:30.640 events and using that to cite bad canadian behavior they're promoting a hoax and calling
00:22:36.400 us genocidal over it how on earth are we ever going to rectify i mean we know what has to be
00:22:42.560 done we've got to get a shovel but well and not only a shovel but you know what are we doing to
00:22:50.560 little children. You know all of our children at school have been told and they've had to
00:22:55.200 participate in various kinds of rituals to you know tie orange ribbons, 215 orange ribbons to
00:23:04.080 the school fence and wear an orange hair shirt and beat themselves with a cat or nine tails for
00:23:09.840 being descended from people who built a beautiful country. You know how are we going to ever reshape
00:23:16.240 their minds. It's really a travesty. Can I put in a quick plug? Of course. I'm going to be talking
00:23:24.060 with Tanya Gaw on Action for Canada about the Globe and Mail apology. And you know, when you said
00:23:31.060 no harm, sorry, no harm done. Well, 100 churches were burnt or vandalized and two people died in
00:23:36.700 one of those fires. So this misreporting by the Globe and Mail had very serious consequences,
00:23:42.120 Not to mention, I'm sure that China and its buddies will be citing Globe and Mail stories, all 63 of them or 61 of them with mass grave.
00:23:52.320 They will be citing them as, as if fact, right? 0.89
00:23:58.460 Oh, yeah. And I didn't mean that there was no harm, no foul in what was done, just some of the attitude from them.
00:24:03.380 Okay, we did a retraction, we'll just let it go.
00:24:05.040 So, but, you know, some of the problems is, as you kind of pointed out, this self-loathing
00:24:10.140 that they're trying to instill in school children.
00:24:12.260 And even with some of the, I mean, some of the bad things happened in points in history
00:24:16.780 farther back, you know, the Kamloops thing is extremely questionable, but there's things
00:24:20.640 that may have happened, absolutely.
00:24:22.500 But I look at, you know, a relatively contemporary example of real genocide with what happened
00:24:28.280 in World War II. 0.70
00:24:29.080 and uh germany you know has certainly accepted and owned uh you know the the bad doings of the time
00:24:35.540 but they're they're not shaming young german children coming up through school now because
00:24:40.960 of what happened back in the in the 30s and 40s uh you know i think as a nation they've accepted
00:24:46.180 that it was dead wrong and they've certainly paid everybody paid a horrible price for it
00:24:49.960 but there's not this perpetual ongoing multi-generational shaming that's happening
00:24:55.600 in Germany that we're seeing with this indigenous state that we have in Canada, where, I don't know,
00:25:01.340 my great-grandchildren might have to do land acknowledgements and say that they're genocidal 0.98
00:25:06.100 settlers. I mean, this is a reprogramming that we've got to push back against.
00:25:11.620 Yeah, well, and it has very many Maoist characteristics to it. I did an article a
00:25:17.480 while ago on my substack about George Manuel. You maybe heard that the RCMP files revealed that they
00:25:23.700 been secretly surveilling him. Well, and good thing that they did because the early Red Power 1.00
00:25:30.660 movement across North America was quite connected to the Black Panthers and also to Maoist, Leninist 0.98
00:25:39.460 ideology. And it's funny, you know, back in the day, well, what is now the AFN? I guess it was
00:25:51.220 and National Indian Brotherhood then, they presented a model of how they thought land
00:25:56.660 back and such like should be. And it was Jean Chrétien and Len Marchand who said,
00:26:01.860 gee, you know, people might wake up in BC one day and find out they don't live in Canada anymore.
00:26:07.220 That was like 30 years ago. That was all related to this kind of Maoist movement. And people don't
00:26:14.180 realize that there was a contingent of Aboriginal people from Canada who went on a state-sponsored
00:26:21.220 trip to China back in 1975, I think it was. And they now have developed a First Nations critical
00:26:29.700 minerals strategy, a BC First Nations China enterprise strategy. So they are taking it
00:26:40.340 upon themselves to act as if they are nations these little tiny groups and exploit whatever
00:26:47.620 resources they have access to with directly with another nation uh and i don't think canadians are
00:26:54.660 aware that this is happening yeah well all we can do is keep trying to bring awareness to it i'll
00:27:00.660 let you go i know you got to get running so with your sub stack and other areas where can people
00:27:04.100 find more of your your work in your writing michelle well i have a blog michellesterling.com
00:27:09.540 that's with an i in sterling and my sub stack michelle sterling and i'm also on medium and
00:27:17.060 youtube and you can also see my mini documentary rebutting the film sugarcane it's called the
00:27:25.540 bitter roots of sugarcane you can see that on rumble so there's a few spots all right well
00:27:31.860 thank you very much uh you know we just got to keep talking about these things and pushing and
00:27:36.100 hopefully some common sense will eventually sink in, but boy, what a crazy environment we're
00:27:40.360 living in right now. So thank you again. And I hope we get to talk again soon. I won't have such
00:27:44.840 a gap between our interviews this time. Okay. Thank you. See ya. Thanks, Michelle.
00:27:49.800 So you guys, if you even want to look it up on both, you know, sustainability, environmental
00:27:53.620 issues, Michelle's been fantastic with that and prolific and on this, this ongoing indigenous 1.00
00:28:00.320 ridiculousness that's going on. It's good to see somebody stepped up in the comment area to show 1.00
00:28:04.840 the misinformation about what a genocide is. Brett Boyle keeps talking about the genocide in Palestine
00:28:09.840 and it's been going on for decades. That's just either a complete misunderstanding on what's
00:28:14.160 happening over there or outright misinformation. Actually, I was there a few months ago. It's
00:28:19.900 pretty terrible what's happening in Israel and Gaza and areas such as that. It is, and it's a
00:28:26.280 war and there's been bad things done by both sides, but it's not genocide, dude. Populations
00:28:31.800 don't grow when they're suffering under genocide for decades. I believe the Jewish population still
00:28:38.100 hasn't quite caught up to where it was back in the 40s yet. That's genocide. Check out Rwanda. 0.99
00:28:43.260 That's genocide. A bunch of aggrieved Islamic extremists who FAFO'd themselves 0.80
00:28:48.320 and got the consequences of it. Tragic, messy, ugly, but it's not genocide. Quit calling every 0.85
00:28:58.320 little issue you don't like, genocide, because that's not what it is. And it undercuts the real
00:29:04.040 genocides that are happening over there in the world in general. And they tell you, if Israel 0.99
00:29:10.680 wanted to wipe out every person in Gaza, they could have done it within hours of October 7th. 0.63
00:29:16.320 They had the ability. So either way, that's where these discussions go, right? You know, 0.95
00:29:21.400 the people with the baloney about whether Canada committed genocide or others and things such as
00:29:26.020 that. It's destructive, it's divisive, and it's not doing anybody any favors or solving any
00:29:32.960 problems. It's just mostly people with an extreme leftist agenda that try to use extreme buzzwords
00:29:38.400 to make a point. All right, let's see what else we've got going on. I'll bring things a little
00:29:45.280 lighter. Interesting. Dave brought it up, and there's going to be a press conference this
00:29:51.660 afternoon with Premier Smith talking about, and there's been pressure on that. I think I wrote a
00:29:56.280 column on that getting on her case a bit. We were supposed to at least cut the amount of gas tax 1.00
00:30:03.240 that we're paying in Alberta if the oil prices get high enough, and they never quite got around to
00:30:06.960 that. It sounds like that might be coming. And then as Dave said, yes, the Danny bucks could
00:30:10.500 be coming along right away, which, you know, why is it done? As it works. This is a response of
00:30:17.980 Premier Smith seeing a slump in the polls, you know, she's been, I think in general,
00:30:22.600 and I get, uh, you know, flack for that, but I think in general, she's been pretty good,
00:30:26.600 but she's prone to being reactive prone to, I think a little bit of panic when things slip a
00:30:33.200 little bit, that's part of the, the bizarre, uh, uh, release, you know, that she put out or
00:30:40.440 statement she put out when she was going on about that $400 billion, uh, you know, cost of transition
00:30:45.380 if Alberta became independent and stuff like that, that was a response to slipping in the
00:30:51.380 polls and then they get afraid and think that, and then they overcorrect. Either way, you know,
00:30:55.820 putting money back in the pockets of Albertans doesn't harm that much, but it does reduce
00:31:02.920 credibility. Are we conservatives or not? The deficit when the oil prices were low was way
00:31:09.420 too high for a province that's ostensibly fiscally responsible. We should be taking the windfall
00:31:16.040 from the high energy prices and eliminating the debt. Get rid of it. Go back to net zero where
00:31:21.480 Ralph Klein brought us. Then we can start talking about handing money out. But the reason is it
00:31:28.920 works. Ralph Klein did that a long time ago when his support was starting to slide a bit too.
00:31:33.080 and uh it worked it brought his support numbers up everybody got a check in their hands i think
00:31:39.640 for 400 bucks and that was you know 20 some years ago that's a lot of money uh in the hands of of
00:31:45.840 you know people at that time and it made them more endeared to the government and it kept
00:31:49.740 client in power but it's not responsible policy it's it's not good policy but i don't expect it
00:31:57.160 to stop. This is the, uh, uh, nature of politics and it's the nature of our own
00:32:01.900 citizenry where we're easily bought off.
00:32:04.780 I guess you could say by a few bucks in hand, uh, rather than looking at the big
00:32:08.380 picture, one of the things that really helped Alberta through some of the tougher
00:32:11.620 times, because we don't get equalization, no matter how bad the oil prices get.
00:32:15.780 But remember 2008, when things crashed all over North America and including
00:32:19.120 energy prices, Alberta was hurting.
00:32:21.780 It was tough to get any kind of work in the energy sector, but part of why it
00:32:25.300 wasn't so bad was that at least Ralph Klein and the Albertans in the 90s who tightened their belt
00:32:30.800 had knocked off the debt so we didn't have massive debt servicing charges to pay for. I mean the debt
00:32:35.480 was already starting to grow again by then but it wasn't massive. Now we've been bloating it for
00:32:40.040 years and I understand that there's going to be surplus territory and I'm sure that Premier Smith
00:32:45.620 is going to announce some of it's going to go towards the debt but realistically a responsible
00:32:50.240 conservative should be saying we're going to put every extra dollar in the surplus towards the
00:32:54.180 debt until the debt is gone. Because one of the worst things to waste your money on in the world,
00:32:58.620 everybody knowing it from their household budget, one of the most painful things is interest.
00:33:02.940 It's just burned money. If you don't have to carry the credit card debt, don't. If you could buy a
00:33:09.480 house for cash, Lord knows I can't, but it would certainly be a nice way. I mean, look at the
00:33:14.900 amount when you, over the course of paying a mortgage off that you've paid an interest.
00:33:24.500 And that's what we're paying on this, this provincial debt is, is, is a, you know, a pile
00:33:32.540 of interest that we don't have to be. And meanwhile, the dollars are coming out to try and keep
00:33:36.160 Albertans happy. So, you know, another interesting discussion, this is where I differ with some of
00:33:40.960 the, um, you know, followers and so on on this with me, medical assistance and dying. I did have
00:33:48.240 some time back, uh, one of the lawyers from Sue Rodriguez's case, they used to call it assisted
00:33:52.900 suicide back then where somebody was really, um, terminal in a bad way and so on and looking for
00:33:59.800 help on coming out. They didn't anticipate it was going to come into this stuff and go as badly as
00:34:06.840 it would to the point where we're talking about offering it to people with mental health issues.
00:34:12.080 It's just beyond the pale. I'm glad that even, um, even a federal committee is realizing they've
00:34:19.620 overstepped for the most part. As Dave said, some senators are going to come out and talk about how
00:34:22.600 horrific it is to deny people with mental health issues. It's, it's, it's, it's absurd, but I, you
00:34:27.580 know, there's some people on the other side, so there should just never be made under any
00:34:30.640 circumstance. It shouldn't be offered. It shouldn't be a consideration in the system. I don't agree
00:34:34.980 with them there either though. It's easy to say that that shouldn't be an option if you're not
00:34:39.820 the one suffering in an agonizing condition with a terminal diagnosis and then you have two options
00:34:46.040 for what might be a few months of existence, which would be either being in agonizing pain
00:34:51.460 or drugged to the point of not really being coherent for those last months. And some people
00:34:58.120 for religious reasons or whatever else might feel that's still the way to go, hang on right to the
00:35:02.060 end. But you know what? I will not put myself in the shoes of somebody who's in that kind of
00:35:08.060 condition who says, you know what? I just want to bring this to an end now and let them make that
00:35:11.480 choice. But you have to set a bar. And some of those bars are pretty straightforward. I think
00:35:17.180 they were kind of in the right place before. You know, you had to have multiple doctors on it. You
00:35:21.720 had to be terminal, not a case of ongoing and bad. It had to be terminal. There's no curing it. You
00:35:27.820 know that you're reaching towards the end and has to be debilitating.
00:35:31.480 I think a lot of people have terminal, uh, diagnosis on things.
00:35:34.900 I mean, if they can still maintain a little bit of a standard of living and
00:35:38.920 you know, they'll want to hang on as long as they can, but now you get into
00:35:42.580 mental health, which is a disease and people suffer and people with mental
00:35:47.680 health issues are having a terrible time, but these are the exact people who can't
00:35:52.420 make an informed judgment about whether or not they should be alive.
00:35:56.600 offering made for that is just going way too far. I'm sorry, I'm just watching the moron in the 0.99
00:36:05.220 commenter there, Brett. He's like, I'm more interested in Corey openly admitting he was 0.98
00:36:09.080 just in Israel. Yes, I traveled to Israel. You know there's a war over there? Journalists cover
00:36:15.180 that. Openly admitting it was never a secret, peckerhead. And so I was there. You were just a
00:36:21.080 YouTube commenter who is thankfully demonstrating the foolishness of this extreme leftist crap that 1.00
00:36:29.880 goes, you know, puts out completely ignorant statements with no clue on what's happening 1.00
00:36:34.360 in the Middle East. So please, Brett, explain further for the rest of the commenters on there.
00:36:39.700 For those who want more, you know, reasonable discussions on things, we'll just carry on with
00:36:45.200 that. I'll leave his comments alone. Man, he's a winner. All right. The other thing, you know,
00:36:50.560 that I really, I was hoping to get Colin Craig on.
00:36:52.580 I'll get him to talk sometime soon.
00:36:53.880 He talks on secondstreet.org.
00:36:56.080 He runs that group and they do dig into the healthcare things excellently and exposing
00:37:01.780 some of those things with the inefficiencies of ours.
00:37:03.700 Because people come to that conclusion a lot when we're talking about thousands of Canadians
00:37:08.720 making over a hundred doctor visits a year in their report.
00:37:11.160 They look at those numbers.
00:37:12.000 They look at those dollars.
00:37:13.500 What would stop that?
00:37:15.380 A user fee.
00:37:17.120 A user fee.
00:37:17.980 We've got a whole lot of people we know who are, as I said to Dave, hypochondriacs or lonely or
00:37:26.580 have mental health issues, bringing in their kids every time the kid gets the sniffles when you
00:37:30.860 didn't need to see a doctor for it, you know, every time you stubbed a toe. A lot of those 0.81
00:37:35.360 people, if it was even $10 or $20 a visit, might suddenly reconsider how often they're going. But
00:37:40.780 we do have a universal system. We have to find a way to distinguish, you know, somebody who might
00:37:47.480 be very sick with a chronic condition who has to see a doctor once a week, twice a week, if they're
00:37:52.740 that sick. And we don't want to punish them and bankrupt them because they have a user fee each
00:37:56.620 time. But I think we can find those levels. You know, we can find things for people under a certain
00:38:01.700 degree of income. Don't want somebody who's really sick not to go to a doctor because they couldn't
00:38:05.180 afford $20 or something. But I think it's not unfair for most of us who have jobs who are
00:38:10.660 relatively healthy to think, yeah, you know what? I can cough up 20 bucks when I go to the doctor
00:38:14.200 to see them about something. It's not that hard. And I suspect it would reduce a whole heck of a
00:38:18.880 lot of it. Roseanne Hutchins saying, didn't we have user fees in the early eighties? I don't
00:38:23.420 think so. I would have been a kid at that point, I guess. But we did have the Alberta healthcare
00:38:31.240 premiums, which I don't think was necessarily the best thing around either. Part of the point of
00:38:36.420 that was that people just can't, it was just a tax. I mean, when a government takes it, they call it
00:38:39.460 a premium, but it's a tax. And we used to have to pay a monthly thing for healthcare. That stopped
00:38:43.340 sometime, I think what, in the late nineties or so, but it gave a misimpression to some people
00:38:50.020 that they were paying the full amount of their healthcare costs or things like that. I remember
00:38:55.160 online discussions with, uh, you know, uh, again, a misinformed leftist from back then. He was
00:38:59.540 saying, you know, the healthcare over here is so far more expensive. It costs this much in this
00:39:03.580 country and that much in that country as he defended the status quo. And here it only costs
00:39:06.960 me 400 a year. Well, no, your healthcare premiums cost you 400 a year, but the healthcare coverage,
00:39:13.320 for you cost about $8,000 to $10,000 back in those days per year. It gives a false impression
00:39:20.040 of how much the healthcare actually costs when you add it all up for provision across a province.
00:39:26.120 Just call it a tax then. If you want more tax for more universal coverage in an inefficient system
00:39:30.440 that's collapsing on itself and people dying on waiting lists, then maybe premiums are the way
00:39:33.640 to go with it. But if we actually wanted to do something as, you know, again, just to slow it
00:39:39.320 down a bit, at least make it a little more efficient. Yeah. I think a user fee for seeing
00:39:43.100 a doctor isn't necessarily a bad thing, but we really need to reform that system altogether.
00:39:47.400 I mean, Canada's system is, is truly, truly, uh, collapsing. We're seeing that in every province.
00:39:53.780 It's funny watching the games. It's usually unions. They're at the root of a lot of it.
00:39:57.420 You know, they blame every year. Oh, it's the conservatives did this. The conservatives did
00:40:00.560 that. Well, guess what? It's collapsing in the NDP BC. It's collapsing in NDP Manitoba. It's
00:40:05.760 collapsing in Quebec. It's collapsing in Newfoundland. We've got the exact same thing
00:40:09.240 happening everywhere. We're running out of doctors, running out of space, and people are running out
00:40:13.260 of time waiting to get care. We have to re-evaluate that whole system. And oh no, I'm not looking to
00:40:20.380 Americanize it. I'm sure I'll see that coming from someone soon. Guess what? There are dozens and
00:40:25.620 dozens of systems around the world that provide universal care, which means you don't need a
00:40:29.800 credit card to go in and get care. But they do offer more private options. And guess what? They're
00:40:36.220 outperforming the heck out of us. So why don't we start looking at them and quit the union crap 0.99
00:40:40.980 on holding onto this broken system that's really making people suffer and dragging everybody down 0.93
00:40:45.540 to a lowest common denominator. And the reality is too, the politics of envy are a huge part of it.
00:40:50.040 Oh, that rich guy will be able to get in there faster than me. That'd be unfair.
00:40:53.820 Guess what? If somebody really is that well off, they're going to jump the lines. It's just that
00:40:59.140 they're going to leave the country to do it. They'll go to Vietnam. They'll go to the United 0.99
00:41:02.040 States. They'll go where they can pay to get the care. So you're not stopping them with your 0.97
00:41:06.900 politics of envy, but you are driving their dollars out of the country. Why not have those
00:41:11.760 dollars? Stay here, pay specialists here, fund facilities here. So all of the rest of us can
00:41:19.860 enjoy it. Just get over the envy. Yeah. He might get a little ahead of you. Oh, well get over it.
00:41:24.320 Probably has a bigger house than you. Probably has a nicer car than you. Probably eats better
00:41:28.340 meals than you, has better clothing, and maybe Shtip's a better looking woman than you. Get over 1.00
00:41:33.880 it. Either bring yourself better in life and try and rise in the scrotum pole of humanity, 0.78
00:41:40.960 or get over it. Envy doesn't help anybody. But until then, we'll see this system continue to
00:41:51.060 collapse in among itself anyways. And Alberta has been exceptional for the people abusing it,
00:41:55.800 apparently across the, uh, uh, other, uh, I'm sorry. I just have to laugh. See, Brett is
00:42:02.540 outstanding. You would think I'd put this guy in on purpose. Look at that. He, he came right out.
00:42:06.460 I guess he's not listening to me, trying to Americanize our healthcare. You know, there we
00:42:09.820 go. Right to it, right. Right to the stock lines, man, guys, you gotta get a new playbook. Carry on
00:42:15.000 Brett. You're making my case for me. All right. Some of the current events though. Yes. Sundry.
00:42:19.460 Let's talk about Sundry. That was the whole thing that had happened. There was a parade coming for
00:42:24.780 rodeo. It's been happening for a long time. There was a group that wanted to put a float in that
00:42:28.880 had Alberta flags on it. Nothing else, just Alberta flags. But apparently they decided that
00:42:33.040 was too politicized. A committee, a committee of fools. And the idiots went and blocked that float 1.00
00:42:39.680 whilst allowing Thomas Lukasik's little Forever Canada float. So the double standard enraged a 1.00
00:42:44.680 lot of people. They got a lot of blowback. And then it turned out that they reversed their decision,
00:42:49.800 said they will allow the Alberta float in. But by then it was too late. The toothpaste was out of
00:42:53.760 the tube. And that also brought even more blowback from the crazy federalists. Now, one thing I'm 0.98
00:42:57.900 kind of annoyed with, and I can believe it, there was probably some horrific messaging, emails,
00:43:03.520 phone calls, you name it, that went to them from both sides. And, you know, these committee members
00:43:11.600 shouldn't have to be exposed to being that rude to them. I wish people would calm down. Most people
00:43:15.920 are. It's usually just a few keyboard hammerheads just throwing out belligerence in general on both
00:43:21.720 sides on the fringes, the ends of things, but still they canceled the rodeo. That was the,
00:43:25.140 the, the, the parade, pure cowardice rather than dealing with it anymore. They canceled the whole
00:43:30.760 thing. So what's happening now? An independence, uh, supporting group is going to be bringing a
00:43:39.460 parade to Sundry this Saturday. Anyways, they're getting together. There's going to be a parade
00:43:43.300 and basically saying to Sundry, what are you going to do about it? It's going to be a positive
00:43:46.380 thing from what I've seen. It should be a good time. They should have, uh, a lot of fun at this
00:43:52.300 thing. I like seeing this pushback from people on the ground, citizens saying, you know what,
00:43:55.540 we don't have to wait for you. We aren't waiting for your permission to do this. We're Albertans.
00:44:00.560 We're not going to let a committee of wimps stop what was an annual tradition for generations in
00:44:05.400 the town. They're going to go out and they're going to drive on those streets and they're
00:44:09.020 going to have a good time. The Western standard is going to have somebody out there covering it
00:44:11.920 in person. And, um, uh, well, I just think it's purely Alberta. Uh, just a comment there,
00:44:20.900 Brett Gelley, another, Brett, not the same one. Treason is no longer a capital offense punished
00:44:24.580 by death by military law. Yeah, that's right. We don't have capital punishment in Canada
00:44:28.840 longer. It's still a very serious offense, but, uh, uh, nobody is committing it in Canada. People
00:44:33.820 can look up the definitions of it too. Holding a legal referenda actually is not treason.
00:44:38.480 And Daniel Smith certainly hasn't committed treason, but it really shows the idiocy and hysteria coming from the indigenous, I'll put it in quotes, leadership. 1.00
00:44:48.860 The corruption on those reserves, guys, is overwhelming. 1.00
00:44:51.620 It's just something else.
00:44:53.960 And these chiefs, they don't represent the people on the ground. 0.91
00:44:58.000 The people on the ground, the indigenous reserves are suffering and they're miserable.
00:45:01.080 That's why there are actually 46% of them in a huge, large poll of 3,000 respondents.
00:45:04.900 And it was found 46% of indigenous people on the ground support independence.
00:45:09.360 So, but the chiefs, the chiefs are lining their pockets and calling for treason charges against
00:45:15.560 the premier. You think people are going to take you seriously? Well, the CBC does, but eventually
00:45:21.600 things are going to be had out and these chiefs get beyond reasonable and it's just going to get
00:45:24.240 worse. Uh, Valerie's saying what time does the sundry roll begin? I don't know. I think they're
00:45:27.500 going to converge on sundry about, uh, 10 o'clock in the morning. Just search things out on Facebook.
00:45:31.520 Uh, I think it's like the independence cruise and things like that, or cruise to independence.
00:45:35.020 you'll find the details it's going to be all over it's going to be a very interesting weekend all
00:45:40.320 right guys that's the time i've got for today thank you for tuning in even brett boyle to show
00:45:45.040 just how stupid the left is it's good to see working examples in the wild i'm going to be
00:45:50.200 back next week at this time the pipeline is going to be on tonight we'll break down some more issues 0.98
00:45:54.740 with a panel and uh be sure to like share and all that good stuff so we can keep bypassing
00:46:00.080 the old legacy media gatekeepers of information.
00:46:03.400 Thank you for your time today.
00:46:04.360 We'll see you next week at this time again.
00:46:30.080 Thank you.