Western Standard - February 28, 2026


CORY MORGAN SHOW： Don’t let the Kamloops residential school child burial hoax get swept under the...


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00:00:13.840 brilliant crazy week in politics and news with lots of stuff to discuss and rant and dissect and
00:00:33.980 go on about i've got lots to cover today um in a little while i'll have a guest on tamara leach
00:00:39.640 of course everybody remembers her from the convoy who's been arrested convicted sentenced house
00:00:45.780 arrest community hours all that stuff we'll get updates from tamara and see exactly what's going
00:00:49.260 on with her now and uh yeah it's uh i think there was a recent court ruling saying uh the convoy
00:00:55.960 wasn't justified they weren't supposed i mean the emergencies act and things such as that but
00:00:59.740 you know the courts find this years later but nobody ever seems to face consequences within
00:01:03.940 government but when you're outside of government boy they certainly don't let off on you do they
00:01:07.820 all right well speaking of things not letting off on and not letting go of i want to go on about the
00:01:13.780 the kamloops residential school child burial hoax i know you've heard me go on about it before
00:01:17.500 but we can't stop talking about this we can't let them sweep it under the rug it's been nearly five
00:01:22.800 years since that bombshell revelation was released at the graves of 215 children been found at the
00:01:27.820 site of the former kamloops residential school site and since then the kamloops first nation was given
00:01:32.880 over 12 million dollars expressly to exhume and identify the remains while the band made the money
00:01:38.560 vanish it didn't move a single teaspoon of dirt trying to find a grave the hoax of the child burials
00:01:43.440 is now moving into fraud territory as some people have pocketed some serious coin here haven't they
00:01:48.480 so no we can't let it go and bands across the nation they're emulating the kamloops band approach
00:01:53.840 and it's a lucrative venture it's also causing more social division among people already in a
00:01:59.120 socially dysfunctional state there were a couple reserves of alleged grave sites some excavation of
00:02:04.800 those sites took place and then they discovered there was no remains there so rest assured the
00:02:09.760 bands won't make that mistake again they'll just keep demanding money not to look so kamloops band chief
00:02:16.240 roseanne casimir said in 2022 the nation's approach as an ongoing process of and this is her words
00:02:22.720 exhumation to memorialization ongoing indeed once questions began arising from people about how
00:02:29.280 many children had been exhumed the government leapt into the issue by sealing the records of the
00:02:34.080 alleged investigation the band was supposed to produce regular reports of their progress in
00:02:38.080 investigating the alleged graves as part of their conditions of the funding but rather than admit
00:02:42.960 the reports were either trash or non-existent the government covered it up for the band it's not
00:02:47.840 the band's money it's the taxpayers money and we do deserve to know where it went
00:02:52.240 the campers band got another 20 12.5 billion to build a healing house to recover from the trauma
00:02:57.440 caused by the non-existent graves as well so as pressure continued to mount and there has been
00:03:02.320 some finally a little bit uh chief roseanne casimir said she issued a press relief rife with excuses not
00:03:08.640 to dig and basically full of outright bs the band claims they must seek consensus from 38 indigenous
00:03:14.400 bands before excavating and that spiritual protocols must be considered that's simply a load of crap if
00:03:20.240 spiritual protocols called for the remains to be left buried by the alleged murderers there wouldn't
00:03:25.280 have been millions spent digging up the winnipeg landfill seeking the remains of two indigenous
00:03:29.440 women spiritual road protocols in just about every culture typically demand the remains be dealt with
00:03:34.400 by the family of the deceased that's where the hoax has another challenge though there's not a single
00:03:38.880 family claiming to have lost a member of the Kamloops residential school site despite these alleged
00:03:44.240 murders having happened in the 50s and 60s not one family stepped up to say it was their son cousin
00:03:48.720 daughter whatever it may be part of the funds given actually were to find these families but
00:03:53.040 appears the band put as much effort into that as they did in exhuming the graves we haven't even
00:03:57.120 proven a single grave exists there to claim we have to treat these as sacred is just hooey let's be
00:04:03.680 blunt here if the band really thought there were children buried there they'd be digging one up every
00:04:07.920 month and it's a fresh fresh press release along with rage and demands for compensation the real reason
00:04:13.840 the band won't dig is they know damn well there's no graves it would literally only take a couple
00:04:17.680 hours to resolve the issue one way or another and they refuse to do it the rcmp knows there's
00:04:21.680 no bodies there as well i mean despite a commonly held myth first nations aren't really sovereign
00:04:25.840 nations they are subject to the law of the land just like any other municipality if a person was
00:04:30.240 murdered and buried on a reserve land the reserve has no authority to block a forensic investigation
00:04:34.960 and exhumation if they did they could start a cottage industry of selling burial plots
00:04:40.320 the reason the rcmp isn't digging is because there was no bodies and there's no crime
00:04:44.320 hundreds of churches though were burned to the ground and vandalized over these revelations
00:04:49.440 hundreds of millions of tax dollars were tossed at the issue flags were at half for months relationships
00:04:54.320 between indigenous and non-indigenous people were frayed further than they already were
00:04:57.840 and all over a hoax and yes i'm going to keep using that word guys the hoax isn't simply a full
00:05:02.480 note that we know we can look back upon and try to forget about it's an ongoing thing as race hustlers
00:05:06.880 continue to milk it and take millions of dollars to perpetuate it rather than resolve it as long as the
00:05:12.480 Kamloops residential child burial hoax remains investigated it becomes more difficult to believe
00:05:17.120 the allegations of abuse at other residential schools doesn't it people are going to look at
00:05:21.920 every claim with a jaundiced eye and with good reason even if some of those claims might be real
00:05:26.400 for the sake of indigenous and non-indigenous people we must follow through and excavate in Kamloops
00:05:31.520 we must hold the fraudsters responsible too it should be our right to see detailed reports on just where
00:05:36.240 the 12 million dollars was spent and if any of it was spent on anything aside from investigating the
00:05:40.640 graves we must demand to be repaid if it isn't repaid it's time for legal recourse the era of
00:05:46.000 band irresponsibility must end and this hoax is too damaging to leave unresolved any longer all
00:05:52.160 right well that's what's got me wound up today let's check in with the news editor Dave Nehler how
00:05:56.160 you doing i'm doing okay cory how are you i'm all right you're a little rough in the throat i'm a
00:05:59.920 little rough in the throat been uh battling a bug for a couple days but i'm feeling well enough and
00:06:05.200 what do you say after work you and i go to the home default get a couple shovels drive out there
00:06:09.280 start digging what do you think would happen well we'd we'd be arrested uh quite quickly i suspect
00:06:14.160 but uh you know i'm not a law expert how fast can you dig i don't know it's way the ground thaws a
00:06:20.800 little more maybe i'm kind of surprised in a way that nobody hasn't tried to do that you know i mean
00:06:26.320 we've got a got a nation of sort of people who might you know well it's just a lot of people yeah
00:06:32.000 sitting around better do with their time you know we pop out and have a little digging party or
00:06:36.160 something i don't know i'm not counseling anybody no no no we wouldn't do that would we would we
00:06:40.880 so you're roughly recovered from your vacation now and yeah in back in the winter mode even or it's
00:06:45.600 above zero now it's as nice as a february is going to get so i'm not going to piss and moan too much
00:06:49.680 about returning to winter ah well it's not been a bad one yes no february was good except for the last
00:06:54.960 week so that another busy day again we got uh leading off the site at the moment is a column or a piece
00:07:01.600 from jared yager out in vancouver apparently a member of city council lost their mind yesterday
00:07:06.880 on uh on the broadcast and accused all all of taking drugs they're all drug users uh he sort of
00:07:15.520 quickly took it down and apologized but it's funny uh one of our favorite topics uh recall another fiasco
00:07:24.400 this week with nathan newdorf uh as of the one uh recall petition against him has officially ended
00:07:32.000 and apparently they didn't get one signature not one cory yeah well that was the one that they
00:07:37.360 thought maybe some fellow might have been doing it just to disrupt the recall process and then
00:07:41.600 purposely uh yeah shelter we've been get a hold of them forever and uh there's just no way even after
00:07:48.080 that's the case i don't know but none of these came anywhere even vaguely close i mean it was it
00:07:52.800 wasn't going to happen no uh keystone xl revival is again making the rounds our energy expert dave
00:07:59.920 winnick has the story on that uh this will come as no surprise to you cory mps are saying the uh
00:08:06.000 the two billion dollars that we've given to canada post taxpayers money to keep them going is lost
00:08:11.840 and we'll never ever see it again geez well you never would have thought that they'd be at bad credit
00:08:16.160 risk no you wouldn't uh speaking a lot of money there is more um the movement for a
00:08:22.560 high-speed rail is moving forward between uh ottawa and montreal and toronto uh the uh head guy says
00:08:29.680 it's very sexy but uh could cost 90 billion dollars 90 billion and we know how these work when they say
00:08:35.680 90 billion now that means oh what 20 years late and uh you know 10 times over budget yeah but yeah
00:08:42.640 you look around the world and all the the developed countries have high-speed over speed rail right i mean
00:08:48.160 how long has it been in japan for decades well we should have been jumping on this ages ago i don't
00:08:53.520 know i mean there's density differences and cultural differences and things that make those more viable
00:08:57.840 i mean california i think is the model people should look at if they want to see about a north american one
00:09:02.160 yeah it hasn't been going very well it hasn't uh cuba um suffering greatly under the american embargo so
00:09:11.440 canada is going to send money uh millions and millions of dollars in aid is set to go to cuba
00:09:16.880 and uh some tory mps are saying hey wait a minute don't don't remember don't forget this is a communist
00:09:22.080 country who jails dissidents and stuff like that you might want to think about it so does canada so
00:09:27.120 does canada yeah true uh bill gates finally has admitted that yeah he did kind of have sex with those
00:09:34.320 two russians uh that that he came across while visiting jeffrey epstein so it was a 12 billion
00:09:42.160 dollar affair cory that's how much he had to give his wife when they split up 12 billion dollars ouch
00:09:49.360 i'm not sure any affair has worked that much no no well you know i mean we guess the cost man that's
00:09:55.360 something i mean it's at first i'd been rolling my eyes with this epstein thing for so long but we're
00:09:59.600 seeing it really starting to trickle out it's starting to catch interest more i mean this guy
00:10:05.520 was a a power broker i mean you could see now i i think i mean i'm just guessing everybody else is
00:10:10.800 but he had quite a nice little leverage racket with a lot of powerful people absolutely uh highest in
00:10:17.040 the highest establishment in great britain prince andrew uh you know the u.s ambassador to former u.s
00:10:23.440 ambassador to the united states peter mandelson so yeah it's uh he's he had his
00:10:29.440 his thumb on a lot of people a lot of very important people it's not that surprising then
00:10:34.320 arrested that he suddenly committed suicide worst case of suicide i ever did see well it'll give us
00:10:40.320 lots to keep unpacking and looking into i mean it's a massive data dump and there's only more to come
00:10:44.640 a lot of more to come the the most damning stuff because this is a the stuff they're working harder
00:10:49.840 to redact uh uh so it's yeah it's gonna be interesting story that won't go away keeps on giving
00:10:55.600 well that's good we get a slow news day we've always got the epstein fuss if there is a
00:10:59.280 ever a slow news day true we haven't had those lately not a lot all right well thanks dave
00:11:04.160 pack your way back into the office there see you after the show see you later all right that is our
00:11:09.680 news editor dave naylor and uh yes lots on the go we cover everything from those international issues
00:11:15.440 such as the epstein files to of course a lot of domestic and local stuff and the reason we can do
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00:11:39.200 getting that information uh so you know in the next segment we tried this last week but this is brand
00:11:45.440 new we're gonna try and get some callers in if you like okay so uh it's a little different we don't
00:11:50.080 have like the full radio uh station sort of set up what you do is call if the first person gets in uh
00:11:55.040 on a hold essentially at that point we'll be able to pull you in a little later on to it the phone
00:12:00.560 number is 866-479-9378 this extension 711 you'll see it at the bottom so uh yeah consider it you know
00:12:09.280 after that segment call in bend my ear tell me what you think about a few things argue with me let's have
00:12:13.920 some fun with it uh lots of stuff to talk about i mean i don't know where to begin as dave said no
00:12:20.960 shortage of uh of news stories going on uh that ruling you might have seen and i don't typically
00:12:28.800 jump into the trans issues and all that stuff you know i'm tend to be actually pretty socially liberal
00:12:32.880 but i i'm also of the point you know i'm a libertarian that people should be able to say whatever
00:12:36.560 the heck they like whether you agree with it or don't agree with it and that case in bc 750
00:12:42.320 thousand dollars against that teacher and among the things within it was hurt feelings guys there
00:12:48.640 is no right not to have your feelings hurt i'm sorry hey having your feelings hurt sucks it all
00:12:53.040 happens to us now and then those are the lessons we learn all the way from elementary school well
00:12:56.960 probably to the grave but it doesn't mean you're you should be financially compensated for and that
00:13:01.680 number is beyond the pale i mean that's ridiculous it was bad enough hearing about a hair stylist
00:13:08.480 they got fined 500 from one of these uh uh kangaroo courts uh human rights tribunals because they
00:13:15.280 didn't have a non-binary option but then hurt feelings i mean i know i didn't look much into
00:13:21.840 this teacher i'm guessing maybe he was pretty nasty and rude about things oh well life sucks get on get
00:13:26.640 over with 750 000 and that caught international attention from of all people and this is where i'm
00:13:33.680 getting some hope though with the time changing on some stuff john cleese you know from from monty
00:13:39.600 python from over there always had been quite a lefty he liked to talk about politics on x and you
00:13:44.960 see his commentary and things but he's at that point i think where well for one he's old enough you
00:13:49.440 know a lot of older people get to the point where there's just no filter left and they'll just say
00:13:52.800 whatever comes in their mind so just imagine what i'm going to be like in 20 more years either way
00:13:56.720 cleese always been outspoken and now though he's drifting quite a ways from the left and he was talking
00:14:02.560 about doing a tour across canada he does you know comedy speaking tours things like that around the
00:14:07.280 world and he called up that ruling and said whoa you know what i think i might reconsider coming to
00:14:13.840 canada altogether if that's the sort of thing they do when it comes to speech and ideas like that you
00:14:18.560 see comedians are on the front line of free speech as well he's been ripping into islam in a way that i
00:14:24.960 get on x and follow john cleese this turnaround from a high profile person saying the quiet part out loud
00:14:31.520 at last which is great to see i mean we've been ripping into some of those cultural problems and
00:14:36.240 problems for a long time but now we're starting to see people on a different caliber level so i
00:14:41.120 check them out on there it's maybe some tides are turning right let's get to my guest before she gets
00:14:46.320 arrested again or something like that it's that barely everybody knows who she is and she was with
00:14:51.920 the uh truckers convoy of course and uh you know a terrible a threat to the security that the issue to
00:14:58.320 the point of having to be imprisoned without bail for for weeks and weeks at a time uh now she's
00:15:04.320 mostly free and she's here to talk to us today so how's it going tamara it's going really well corey
00:15:09.680 thanks so much for having me it's nice to see you again oh yeah so yeah it's been a while so yeah uh
00:15:16.240 appreciate that um i guess for part of it though for a lot of people they might not have seen stuff
00:15:20.800 just to to bring them up to date uh you're still under a house arrest but now because of workplace
00:15:28.000 allowances you're allowed to kind of travel around a bit right correct yes i am currently serving an
00:15:33.520 18 month sentence 12 months house arrest and then six months of curfew however i was given 74 days time
00:15:41.360 served due to the nearly 50 that i spent in jail which is uh which is funny because that's pretty much
00:15:47.520 unprecedented unprecedented for a mischief period um so my sentence will be complete on january the
00:15:53.440 21st chris barbers will be complete at the end of next april okay well and you did some community
00:16:00.320 service for a bit too i did yeah i had 100 hours of community service to perform so between my church
00:16:07.600 i worked there once a week and also three times a week at the local food bank so and i really enjoyed
00:16:13.200 my time there it didn't really seem like punishment to be honest i'm still volunteering actually at the
00:16:18.080 food bank they're going to let me continue to do that which is quite nice well that's you know kind
00:16:22.240 of a good outcome those better if you just used to those things rather than have a judge mandated
00:16:26.640 you know it can ruin a good thing uh so i mean frustration you've got to be expressing i imagine to
00:16:34.320 a degree though we were seeing you know rulings are following up and realizing it was the federal
00:16:39.280 government that was unreasonable during the uh the the convoy uh you know months basically or months
00:16:45.840 even i mean the the emergencies act was beyond the pale it was out of control but still they never
00:16:51.680 backed off on cracking down on you and chris barber but nobody in the government has been held
00:16:56.560 accountable there's no sign that they will be well obviously that is a source of frustration for chris and
00:17:03.760 myself and i'm sure many other freedom convoy um people that were that were persecuted or prosecuted
00:17:09.760 and charged um it is uh as i just said i am i've been convicted in a court of law found guilty of committing
00:17:16.160 mischief and i'm serving my sentence and and it is frustrating knowing that the government of canada
00:17:22.080 the liberal party of canada invoking the emergencies act was ruled on ultra vires and unlawful and we
00:17:28.960 haven't even had a statement from the pmo or the justice minister on the federal court of appeals
00:17:35.760 ruling which upheld justice mosley's decision so apparently in canada mischief is a more heinous
00:17:41.440 and punishable crime than trampling uh your rights and freedoms is the message that this is sending to
00:17:47.520 canadians well you know it's something that should be applied to both you know your own case and with
00:17:54.800 the federal government and how things gone i mean we've really let things get so slow in our court
00:18:00.720 system though these are things that should be resolved in much much less time for the sake of
00:18:05.360 the defendant whether they're guilty or not uh and likewise with the government i mean if they've done
00:18:10.960 wrong we want to get to the bottom of it rather than taking four or five years and then things are
00:18:15.280 forgotten or can be swept under the rug or people kind of let it go i mean it's it's the process is the
00:18:20.720 punishment well i think that's the point i think the point is is they want to just ignore this um
00:18:26.720 this ruling um and sweep it under the rug and hope everybody forgets about it like i said it's it's
00:18:32.480 very unusual that they haven't even issued a statement about it and not only that but even
00:18:37.040 the pandemic as a whole we haven't even had an inquiry or anything into the handling of it um what they
00:18:43.280 could do differently next time what they would do better what they wouldn't do i mean generally in in
00:18:48.720 a situation of that magnitude you see inquests and inquiries and investigations that follow something
00:18:53.920 like that so we haven't even seen um any type of any type of action in that form yet either no and
00:19:00.240 i mean i i don't think enough canadians should under you know forget the gravity of exercising
00:19:05.600 something as serious as the emergencies act i mean it's a version of martial law it's a an emergency button
00:19:11.440 for a government if the aliens are invading or if something really disastrous has really occurred to
00:19:17.200 the point where we have to suspend civil liberties for a short period of time to get it under control
00:19:22.880 and it's become quite clear that that didn't meet that bar in canada during the convoy uh but again
00:19:29.520 there's been no consequence for not meeting that bar the case in korea we we heard mentioned the other
00:19:33.920 night with a former prime minister there he got quite heavily penalized for uh wrongly imposing the
00:19:39.760 emergency act there yes he's facing life in prison uh i believe for for his invocation of their version
00:19:47.280 of martial law um and justin trudeau got katy perry so you know um and and what we're seeing too
00:19:55.600 is that a lot of these mps that were involved or former mps that were involved in the decision to
00:20:00.240 invoke the emergencies acts are all failing upwards they're being you know sort of pushed out of cabinet or
00:20:06.000 pushed out of parliament into these nice cushy consulting jobs yara sax i believe the lady who
00:20:12.560 stood up in the house of commons and said honk honk was the same as us saying hile you know uh the bad
00:20:19.600 guy um absolutely ludicrous is working for the sussex strategy group now if you look up the sussex
00:20:25.600 strategy group they're just a they're just a bunch of people that sit around you know talking they're i
00:20:32.080 mean this is this is how these people end up or they get nice cushy ambassador jobs too right um but
00:20:37.520 no accountability no it says a lot with a lot of those jobs if they're ambassadorships their other
00:20:43.440 consultancies or things but it's amazing how many of them end up out of the country for their soft
00:20:47.680 landing where uh they will be forgotten about and not questioned rather than even a a local
00:20:52.800 directorship or or crown corporation head or or something like that going on here uh a lot of
00:20:58.400 them lately just seem to be hopping the the border when they finish up
00:21:02.320 yes i know i should everyone should be so lucky eh yeah yeah yeah well as we sit around talking for
00:21:09.280 a living as well we don't get compensated nearly as well as those guys do uh so speaking of which
00:21:14.800 you've been on the tour with myself uh and this has been something you've been working on uh you
00:21:19.680 you've always been something of an independent maverick days in the past and and currently so i i'm gonna
00:21:27.360 you know take a leap and imagine you've kind of come to the same conclusion of me that the federation
00:21:31.840 really can't be repaired but maybe we can fix a part of it yeah i agree wholeheartedly i mean
00:21:38.080 as you heard me talk about i sort of did a whole 360 on the independence thing obviously i grew up a
00:21:43.440 proud canadian um and then joined you know the the wexit movement and the maverick party throughout
00:21:49.600 that actively helped jason kenney and my local mla in the 2019 provincial election and then of course my
00:21:56.000 perspective shifted when i went across canada with the freedom convoy and i saw you know these
00:22:00.480 canadians all come together and i really believe that you know it was worth saving i still believe
00:22:05.680 canada is worth saving i'm just unsure of if it can be saved um and so i believe you know the the run for
00:22:14.160 independence i think this is a great way to exercise democracy and to give the albertans a choice and a
00:22:20.320 voice and and it's going to be a really exciting year i mean it's really exciting to go out to these
00:22:25.120 petition signings and seeing all those smiling faces and a lot of hope and a lot of excitement for
00:22:30.080 the future again which is quite reminiscent of how it felt when we drove across canada so um as much as
00:22:37.040 i think it's sad to see this happening and i don't think anyone really wants to see canada break apart
00:22:43.600 um we have to sort of save ourselves i think you know this is not working for us and you'll hear the
00:22:50.080 the question repeatedly you know if alberta wasn't already a part of confederation um if we were offered
00:22:56.880 what we have now would we would we agree to join and i think that's a wholehearted no um but i think
00:23:03.600 again i think it's just really important that we have an opportunity to actually exercise our democratic
00:23:09.440 rights i give ourselves a voice and a say and um it's going to be exciting to see how the next few
00:23:15.520 months roll out absolutely we're in for i mean historic years we've got a referendum approaching
00:23:21.520 we've never had that happen out in alberta before and you know i've been watching the independence
00:23:26.240 movement for a long long time and and something there's a lot something very different this time
00:23:30.160 i mean there was doug christie and the west fed and and such in western canada concept back in the 80s
00:23:35.040 then there was the alberta independence party i started the end of the 90s but these came and
00:23:39.600 went they crested they fell by the wayside but something's different this time i think the convoy
00:23:44.800 has a lot to do with that and covet in general because for the first time you know there's been
00:23:49.920 lots of political minded people and so on screaming oh hey your your rights are being eroded the
00:23:54.640 government's getting too big it's uh we're losing our checks and balances nobody really paid attention to
00:23:59.360 it until they suddenly saw what can happen when they suddenly realized you can be kept away
00:24:04.880 from your workplace but away from your loved ones you can you know have your rights completely
00:24:10.960 infringed upon and uh that that feeling of having a you know security i guess you could say is gone
00:24:19.600 like people are engaged in a way we've never seen before the meetings are still packed i mean
00:24:23.280 we're sold out and evidently the other night and i would think that the convoy had something to do with that
00:24:29.040 well i think what the convoy did was it exposed a lot of shenanigans that were happening in our
00:24:34.560 federal government i mean it was so much more it ended up being so much more than just us traveling
00:24:39.520 there to have a discussion about the mandates um throughout the throughout the whole protest
00:24:46.160 i mean the liberal government continued to expose themselves um i think some nefarious intentions
00:24:52.400 they showed that they were not acting in good faith and so i think it really opened a lot of eyes
00:24:58.320 um especially out in western canada and and let's face it i mean western canadians are tired of being
00:25:04.240 used and ignored um i think the mou well a lot of people did um applaud daniel smith and mark carney
00:25:12.240 for the mou regarding pipelines i mean it's just a piece of paper and i think we're tired of lip service
00:25:17.920 and we'd like to see some concrete action oh absolutely uh so what do you think uh let's
00:25:26.800 just jump the clock ahead a little bit what if there was an independent alberta an independent west
00:25:32.000 what would you want to see to make sure that we don't have to endure i mean there's always
00:25:35.360 that risk that we flip out of what we just left and into a smaller version uh of what that was what
00:25:40.880 what should we be looking to do to ensure we're making a better place rather than just lateral mover or
00:25:46.320 even a worse move well that you're absolutely right about that a lot of these things tend to end up
00:25:51.840 exactly the way that they started um i think first and foremost a smaller government um is definitely
00:25:58.080 necessary i think there's a lot of ways that we're going to be able to succeed i mean you go out and
00:26:03.200 you hear some people speak and it's all demon gloom our pensions and you've raised some excellent
00:26:07.920 points and um and not only that i mean one of the great things i really like about your book is that
00:26:13.120 you are giving tips on how to do this successfully how to approach independence successfully you know
00:26:18.480 based on your own experience and some mistakes that you've made in the past as well pardon me excuse
00:26:24.880 me yeah well and that's part of it we we can't forget our history we can't forget the mistakes
00:26:31.040 we've made that seems to be a bad habit we have doing is oh sorry about that we'll deal with that
00:26:36.400 later and then we just kind of move on that was part of my rant to begin with with the Kamloops
00:26:39.440 residential school grave site thing too people are kind of saying okay nothing to see here let's
00:26:43.440 just stop looking and not look into that well hang on i i want to see a system where this can't happen
00:26:49.360 again and i and i'm not seeing that and and that's part of it too uh you know with what was exposed
00:26:55.440 during the convoy we're one more virus away from being locked down again nothing has changed in that
00:27:01.520 regard so i i think it's important for us is if we're talking about independence alberta
00:27:06.560 to have people like yourself speaking about remind us we've got to have those protections
00:27:10.560 for individuals in in a new new alberta and that's one reason why why we still have to see justice and
00:27:17.440 accountability for the invocation in the first place um because if we don't see that then then it just
00:27:24.160 it just leaves it open for them to do it again what's to stop them from doing it again if there's
00:27:28.160 absolutely no consequences i mean what did it cost them a couple of inquiries you know that i mean so
00:27:34.560 yeah i think um i think it's really important that we hold their feet to the fire here
00:27:41.120 so uh just kind of getting in closing you did release a book a while back i think i spoke to
00:27:45.040 you when you when it first popped out but still not everybody has read it yet and they really should
00:27:49.360 it's called hold the line uh it gives some background of course on everything that happened
00:27:54.240 your your perspective on you know how you kind of fell into a position of uh leading a convoy out there
00:27:59.920 in ottawa where can people find your book uh it's available on amazon actually or you can uh you can
00:28:06.240 order it through the convoy book.com uh through rebel news i believe also and yet we're just getting
00:28:11.760 started on book number two here with in the next week or two so it'll be uh it'll be exciting it'll be
00:28:16.640 exciting summer right on and uh so where can people find you these days i know so you've got a new job
00:28:22.320 lately yes yes uh i'm working for rebel news actually which works out fantastic it allows me
00:28:28.560 to get out of the house for some work exemptions and it's going to keep me really busy so you can
00:28:33.440 find me at rebel news you can also find me on x at at leech tamara and you're touring on the uh
00:28:39.760 independence tour there's uh five more stops left on that one i think it's independence tour.com to see
00:28:44.720 where those are it is yeah that's where you can see where we'll be coming you can get your tickets
00:28:49.200 and all the information about our tour so and it's been amazing so far i love the the question
00:28:54.960 and answer portion is actually my most favorite we've had some really thoughtful questions and uh
00:29:00.080 some really thoughtful concerns that have come out of us so i'm really happy about the discussions that
00:29:04.560 i i hope that we're sparking anyways i i hope so too no it's been fun and just in case it was
00:29:10.080 wondering yeah i'm on that tour as well so if you want to come out and bend our ears and those
00:29:14.720 question periods and everything else check out that independence tour.com get signed books
00:29:18.960 all that good stuff and uh you know we're moving ourselves closer to that line uh anything else
00:29:23.600 you'd like to add before i let you go then no that's that's pretty much it for me i think
00:29:29.280 great well thank you our listeners and viewers really appreciate the update we're always concerned
00:29:33.600 about how things have been going it's been such a a long drawn out for a few years for you so
00:29:38.400 thanks again and i guess we'll see you tomorrow night yes you sure will thanks a lot cory have a great day
00:29:44.000 thank you so one more time guys that is uh tamara lee she can find her book it is called hold the line
00:29:49.280 and yes she's working for rebel media it's we're competitors in that sense but it's a you know we
00:29:54.880 they're media outlets that are independent and complement each other we're not at each other's
00:29:58.960 throats i want to see everybody subscribe to both publications uh not just one or the other and uh
00:30:06.160 yeah there's a a lot to be fought a lot to fight for so let's see what else we got going on here
00:30:12.800 provincially um it's been interesting and we're seeing some folks coming out on that
00:30:18.240 uh you know as we're moving into a referendum year it's coming this fall one way or another and uh
00:30:25.360 where's nancy where's this star ndp leader who was going to bring them over the line who was going to
00:30:31.760 change everything the head nancy former mayor of calgary he was believe it or not you can google
00:30:36.960 this i know it sounds a little hard to believe i don't know i'm not a good judge of of uh the
00:30:41.680 appearance but he was calgary's sexiest man four years running apparently quite something and after
00:30:48.960 all of that and he gets to the head of the new democrat party and guess what he's flopping you know
00:30:54.960 premier smith is still growing in the polls she's still gaining she's doing all right
00:31:00.320 what's he doing wrong i you know my views on it and i've watched nancy quite closely for quite a while
00:31:06.480 uh is he doesn't know how to operate in a party environment you see you got to understand it's a
00:31:12.320 little different well it's one thing to be a mayor and have a room of 15 people that you uh manage and
00:31:20.800 he fought mostly with that city council the whole time he was in there as mayor as well
00:31:24.560 running a party is a whole different animal that's where you actually have to have a little bit of
00:31:31.440 humility which is something she doesn't have at all you know i've been critical in many many ways on
00:31:36.560 many many things and i'll continue to be uh one thing i never saw out of him was signs of corruption
00:31:42.800 you know i'll give credit where it's for some in case he's running his own pocket he's he's a rough
00:31:48.320 political player he'll play dirty he'll do love that but he's not corrupted or anything that way
00:31:53.280 his vice is his vanity he says it out right he says he's the smartest man in the room he walks into
00:32:00.000 a room and he just glows he it's all about him well that's not so well received in a party atmosphere
00:32:08.240 and i got a feeling i'm just guessing that the ndp caucus isn't necessarily too thrilled in being
00:32:14.480 second bananas to this man you know he's operating on his own he's talking to them he's viewed he was
00:32:20.640 in the leadership even though he wanted handily as a bit of an outsider he didn't take his lumps climbing
00:32:25.840 the the union ladder to get to the head of the ndp as they usually do popped in from the outside
00:32:31.520 as an outside savior so in a party environment if you don't have that loyalty and support from your
00:32:39.600 own party members and party organizers and such you have a much harder time being effective in office
00:32:46.960 again um there can be a one-hand show you can't do that as a party leader if you want to stand up
00:32:51.920 as a party leader you want to be the one that people go to on things but there are a lot of
00:32:58.160 ambitious people underneath you who expect their due who expect to be respected who want their voices
00:33:03.600 to be out there as well and uh they're just not feeling it for him so when you don't have that
00:33:10.640 he can't effectively take advantage of things i mean that procurement scandal with health care
00:33:15.920 and it's really never been resolved and that was a a bad screw up on the part of the smith government
00:33:21.680 and i gotta say not lee would have really mopped the floor with smith over that one she would have really
00:33:27.760 made and scored some political points and you know i i would do not want to see the ndp in i'm not
00:33:33.200 trying to give tips i guess in a way that would lead to that but it shows a different skill set
00:33:38.400 and ability to grab those issues and make use of them ninchy is just there and he just can't seem
00:33:43.200 to get his feet going from under him and even guys who can't stand premier smith like don braid he's a
00:33:49.920 columnist with the herald he's been there forever he's been writing like what the heck is
00:33:53.760 with man she's a total flop so that gives premier smith a lot of free reign to do what she wants
00:33:59.680 premium you know provincially when you've got no one breathing down your throat but what an
00:34:04.400 interesting political picture we got on the go right now so let's go to the federal polls i mean
00:34:08.720 provincially support for independence has been growing western standard has some exclusive polls
00:34:13.280 you can see that and the ucp has been seeing their support grow but federally mark carney is strong
00:34:21.760 he's wrapping up the country like it or hate it that's the reality the conservatives are speaking again
00:34:27.440 of leaders who can't just seem to manage to capture the imagination or the support of people in
00:34:32.960 general and i like peer palia but obviously a lot of canadians don't and they just continue to keep
00:34:40.160 sinking and sinking and i don't get it myself i mean i certainly don't so carney is spending like a mad
00:34:45.760 man he's really not been governing responsibly yet at the same time he's gaining in support
00:34:52.960 predominantly again central canada of course as usual that's the thing so the rumors are really
00:34:59.040 starting to hit about whether or not carney is going to call a spring election a snap election
00:35:04.480 i'm starting to lean towards thinking he will and you know if you'd asked me a few months ago i would
00:35:08.960 have said no and some people are thinking well he's getting this close to a majority just by grabbing
00:35:13.920 floor crossers why would he bother needing to hold an election well because you want more of a majority
00:35:21.280 if you want to do a bunch of things than just one or two seats that still leaves you very vulnerable
00:35:26.000 that still makes it difficult to maneuver you're also two or three seats away from losing your
00:35:30.400 majority at any given time the temptation has to be strong when he's in a minority right now
00:35:36.160 but sitting with a 13 14 lead in the country to find an excuse and the government can always find an
00:35:42.320 excuse to fall you know you could put on another giant budget update or a giant policy or plan and you
00:35:48.080 you know the usual political lines you're gonna say this is so important that we must take it to
00:35:53.920 the canadian people in an election rather than just bringing it through legislation because i love you
00:35:58.320 all and respect your views so much that this is the only way we should possibly do this so we're
00:36:04.000 gonna call an election where i'm gonna meet with the governor general we're in parliament and put it
00:36:08.880 to canadian see i could play that stupid game in reality it's anything but respect for canadians
00:36:14.320 but you hit the conservatives while they're down you get in there and suddenly you win in a majority
00:36:20.240 with a 15 20 seat buffer now you can really do all you want and what i'm starting to see too is
00:36:26.880 election style spending now carney already was spending in ways that made trudeau look cheap
00:36:32.320 but he's still ramping it up every day he's putting out another spending announcement and that
00:36:37.520 deficit is massive and it just keeps growing six billion more to ukraine you know more for this
00:36:43.760 more for that more for this and the billions just keep adding you know what that sounds like it sounds
00:36:47.920 like an election campaign because sadly voters fall for it they often vote for whoever blows the most
00:36:55.920 sunshine up their butts and whoever promises the most spending they know that shallow as it is as
00:37:01.440 destructive as it is because eventually we got to pay the bill carney this fiscal expert and uh uh
00:37:10.880 what kind of fiscal expert puts us in a position we're spending a billion a week on interest on the
00:37:15.920 debt yet that's what he's doing i smell an election coming it's gonna do with the spring so let's say he
00:37:22.960 does it though let's say he does that let's say by amazing with a full majority now he's got a 10 20 seat
00:37:29.360 buffer think of where the independence movement sit think of what that will do to it this independence
00:37:36.800 movement that's already snowballing in alberta that in saskatchewan they're looking meetings they're
00:37:41.440 packing rooms out there as well and you know the election map will look just the same as did before
00:37:47.600 liberal east conservative west futility inability to change an abusive punitive federal centralized
00:37:55.360 government sniffing down their noses at us this is where we start getting closer to a winning
00:38:01.920 referendum possibility now what about that i think there's just so much to cover here right so premier
00:38:09.680 smith put out her uh what nine i think it is referendum questions that are going to be coming this fall
00:38:16.160 on the 19th and i i know some independent supporters aren't too thrilled with it i'd rather it was
00:38:21.600 completely separate from it i i honestly i admit that that's for sure even a different day but the
00:38:26.080 reality is for responsibility wise and so on you hold the referendum on the same day because you know
00:38:31.840 it's just one day of everybody voting you could have the advanced polls together everything else like
00:38:35.600 that you stick them all together it's done in countries that do a lot of direct democracy if you
00:38:39.520 look to switzerland or some others where they hold a lot of regular referenda there will be multiple
00:38:45.680 questions on the ballot people saying it'll distract too much from from the question no it won't the
00:38:51.920 guys we we'll have nine questions on the ballot plus an independence question on the 19th i promise
00:38:58.400 you 90 of the discussion and coverage is going to be on the independence question that's it's going to
00:39:04.080 dominate and it won't be on the same ballot because there's there's constitutional there's citizens
00:39:08.480 initiated there's non-constitutional it'll all be day but these are separate things as people are saying
00:39:13.360 that'll violate the clarity act because it won't be clear if multiple ballots where where where are
00:39:18.400 you pulling this stuff out of really there's nowhere in the clarity act that says that you can
00:39:23.760 have more than one on the same day it's still clear the point is the question being clear and
00:39:29.760 the answer being yes or no and the app has been very uh uh clear and making sure that that question
00:39:37.760 is the exact phrasing of the clarity act uh john saying we want one question not nine we no longer want
00:39:42.800 united canada and she has to stop well okay i know i'd rather just one we've got the nine and
00:39:50.080 there is a good side of some of this and uh part of it is that she is throwing all the spaghetti against
00:39:57.920 the wall and knows it's going to fail look at some of the questions you know do you support the alberta
00:40:05.600 government uh in directly or basically a pro appointing uh judges to the court of king's bench
00:40:12.960 there's no way they're ever going to allow that to get through not going to happen we're not going
00:40:17.680 to have a constitutional gathering in canada of the first ministers to pull any of these off anyways
00:40:22.800 but having a whole summer of the rest of canada telling us to get stuffed every one of these when
00:40:26.880 smith puts those out and the rest of the tells her to get stuffed that tells people that voting us on the
00:40:33.120 independence question is the only course left so she's doing all of the what abouts for us because
00:40:39.120 there's a lot of people and i get these at these q a's when i go to those when i go to those meetings
00:40:43.120 and i'm speaking there and people have a lot of questions there's a lot of undecided what about this
00:40:47.760 what about this what about this have you tried this have you tried this have you tried this and
00:40:51.680 they're genuine questions there's still people want to make sure that everything's been tried first
00:40:56.560 well just throwing it out there and showing that yeah she's going to try but it's going to fail
00:41:02.720 and uh so you know let's let's carry on with it another of the constant and i know they're a waste
00:41:07.360 of time i understand in that sense uh do you support the government alberta working with governments
00:41:11.280 in other provinces to amend the constitution to abolish the senate you know smith knows enough
00:41:17.360 about politics to know that will never pass you need quebec and ontario who and the maritimes who
00:41:22.800 already dominate the senate it's the other area where they really run the government over top of
00:41:27.920 there's no way in a million years they're going to change that but it's good to remind everybody
00:41:31.840 they'll never change it isn't it so let's have it out there uh it's the other one allowing the
00:41:37.520 province to opt out of federal programs that intrude on provincial jurisdiction says health
00:41:42.080 education social services without the government losing any federal funding for its programs again
00:41:48.720 the lorinchin elite the andrew coins the rest of them they're going to tell alberta to go to hell
00:41:52.640 on that that's fine that's fine and the other one is uh just a it's almost bland it's talking about
00:41:58.720 you know ending federal interference and laws dealing with provincial and shared areas of
00:42:02.400 of a constitution i i i understand it's a lot of baffle gab it is a a lot of paper that's going
00:42:09.040 to be eaten up and and but i tell you what if the independence movement isn't strong enough for people
00:42:14.640 to skip past those nine questions or whatever and vote yes or no on that question anyways then it's not
00:42:19.840 strong enough to win the question is clear on that the question that will be on that ballot
00:42:28.560 is gonna say you know do you want alberta to become independent or not and you'll vote yes or no
00:42:34.320 so if we can't win based on that you haven't won you don't deserve to alberta doesn't deserve to become
00:42:39.920 independent that's that's the bottom line we've got the ability and uh you know again i don't think
00:42:46.800 smith's perfect by any means i don't like every approach she's done but i still applaud some of it
00:42:52.640 in that she's given us the mechanism that that's something that's fully within her control
00:42:58.800 she could have sat back and like let's say you know when i play that devil's advocate like i talked
00:43:02.400 about if i was pretending to be mark carney let's say i was pretending to be smith who really wanted to
00:43:06.880 shut down a referendum when the judge said the question violated treaty rights and such and couldn't
00:43:12.400 be held last last fall well boy i i really wish we could give albertans the choice directly in a
00:43:18.560 referendum on independence but alas under the current system our justices have determined that it just
00:43:24.480 can't happen because of the the circumstances with the uh indigenous factor so a referendum can't be held
00:43:30.720 and can't be citizen citizen initiated i tried what i could i'm sorry about that let's move forward
00:43:36.720 and you act as if you don't have a choice in it instead what did she do she amended bill 14
00:43:41.920 or brought in bill 14 to which amended the act so it could happen that's not what somebody who
00:43:46.880 doesn't want the referendum to happen would do would she vote yes on a referendum i don't know
00:43:51.680 i think she probably wants the referendum held just for the political leverage it gives her that's
00:43:58.240 always that hammer in the background it helps her a lot so i don't care what her motivations are to be
00:44:02.960 blunt i just want the ability to vote yes or no and to campaign on it and have that democratic
00:44:08.320 vote and so far we've got that so stay focused on that and uh if she pulls the ability to hold a
00:44:14.640 referendum well then we got a problem then we got a different issue altogether but so far we don't
00:44:18.240 have that and then yeah there's a bunch of fluff in these non-constitutional questions too that are in
00:44:22.640 there i'm not thrilled with that stuff i mean it's just polling really is all it's doing when you're
00:44:26.720 getting to that point but there will be a bunch of referendum put before albertans this fall i mean we
00:44:32.080 saw the equalization one two from jason kenny and that went nowhere right sixty some percent of
00:44:36.400 albert and so the equalization equalization is dumb and should be removed from the constitution
00:44:40.640 and canada looked at it said yeah well that's a shame keep paying and we're not transferring back
00:44:45.040 to you that's life either way it's going to be one heck of a year if you're in calgary or you know
00:44:52.560 check out that independence tour.com you can meet me tomorrow night if it hasn't sold out yet edmonton
00:44:56.560 was sold out i'm gonna be hitting a bunch of other spots uh grand prairie medicine hat left bridge and
00:45:01.120 west lock i believe as well and we can have these kinds of conversations in person be sure to tune
00:45:06.240 into the pipeline tonight uh we got marty up north with his show going nigel's got stuff derek just
00:45:11.280 had an interview with the premier actually i have to shamefully but i haven't had a chance to watch
00:45:14.720 you i'm gonna watch it this afternoon so subscribe to those western standard channels guys share them
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00:45:24.800 a better place and the rest of the country a better place and get everything over the line so thanks
00:45:28.560 for tuning in we'll see you next week at this time
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