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00:00:00.000 Welcome to the

00:00:29.980 Corey Morgan Show. Back away from

00:00:32.000 the Global Energy Show and in the comfort

00:00:34.000 of the studio again. A little

00:00:36.020 easier in here for things.

00:00:38.320 Well, lots on the news front

00:00:40.100 today. We got a by-election going

00:00:41.960 on in Olds Didsbury

00:00:43.880 Three Hills. That's going to be finished by the time we

00:00:45.960 do our next show.

00:00:47.980 We've got the G7

00:00:50.040 Summit wrapped up. I don't know if really anything

00:00:51.960 much was accomplished or happened there.

00:00:53.960 It's hard to say, but we were there covering it the whole time.

00:00:56.760 The Middle East, war is 0.98

00:00:58.000 expanding. I think Chris Oldcorn

00:00:59.900 will expand a little bit on that for us in a moment.

00:01:02.180 He's going to give us some updates on

00:01:04.020 the news and

00:01:04.960 the independence movement is still going strong.

00:01:08.300 I've got as a guest coming up

00:01:09.500 in a little while, Calgary Fish Creek

00:01:12.020 MLA, Eric Bouchard.

00:01:13.940 He's holding an independence town hall

00:01:16.000 in Calgary, which of course has people worked up

00:01:17.860 because he's daring to even talk about it.

00:01:20.160 They don't even want us to talk about it. Well, too bad.

00:01:22.140 We're going to talk about it anyways.

00:01:24.000 Either way, I'm going to talk about something else

00:01:26.140 and get things rolling here. So

00:01:27.940 there's always been a segment

00:01:30.080 of the population. They oppose all vaccinations.

00:01:32.380 You know, they never wanted

00:01:34.000 to take part in them. Some of they have religious

00:01:35.700 objections or some are just paranoid, whatever

00:01:37.900 their reasons. The number

00:01:39.900 of people, though, refusing vaccination

00:01:42.000 really wasn't of much concern because

00:01:43.660 most Canadians took part in vaccination

00:01:45.940 programs. Herd immunity was

00:01:47.600 obtained and many diseases virtually

00:01:49.920 vanished from the landscape.

00:01:51.800 Now we're seeing new outbreaks of diseases

00:01:54.020 such as measles, whooping cough, even polio

00:01:56.220 seems to be making a reappearance in some spots.

00:01:58.760 Now authoritarian-minded people

00:02:00.080 are reacting predictably and destructively

00:02:02.220 to the new outbreaks. Some are calling

00:02:04.000 for crackdowns, forced vaccinations, 1.00

00:02:05.960 while other morons are implying that 0.99

00:02:07.440 people who refuse vaccinations should be denied 1.00

00:02:10.040 medical care. Hey, if you want to have that discussion

00:02:11.840 on ending universal health care, fine.

00:02:13.820 But if not, let's get a little realistic here.

00:02:15.940 They don't understand, though, that

00:02:17.580 this is the reaction that fostered

00:02:19.860 the mistrust in the establishment that led

00:02:21.980 to the resurgence of these old diseases in the

00:02:24.040 first place. While

00:02:25.700 COVID vaccination mandates

00:02:27.980 might have ended, we haven't seen any

00:02:29.580 retractions or apologies from the medical

00:02:31.900 authorities for having wrongly imposed

00:02:34.180 them upon people. Citizens had been

00:02:36.000 fed a bill of goods and

00:02:37.960 a trust in the establishment was shattered.

00:02:40.040 If the state can't admit it made mistakes

00:02:41.800 or misrepresented the benefits

00:02:44.060 or the potential harms of the COVID vaccination

00:02:46.060 mandates, why should people trust

00:02:48.060 the state now? When the vaccines

00:02:50.200 for COVID appeared on the scene, we were told

00:02:51.800 they'd prevent transmission of the virus

00:02:54.340 as other vaccines do. The untruth

00:02:56.120 of that case actually quickly became evident,

00:02:58.200 yet the authorities refused to back down

00:03:00.120 on coerced vaccination.

00:03:02.140 To have mandated vaccinations in any

00:03:04.040 circumstance is an abhorrent attack on a

00:03:05.920 person's bodily autonomy. To maintain

00:03:08.320 vaccine mandates when it's evident,

00:03:10.220 the unvaccinated person is no more likely to

00:03:11.940 transmit the disease than the vaccinated 0.99

00:03:13.260 one is even worse. Canadians learned,

00:03:15.640 though, that the state would rather die on a

00:03:17.620 hill of misguided principle than back down

00:03:19.340 on a policy. And now citizens

00:03:21.340 are paying the price because that shattered

00:03:22.820 trust has led to people shunning

00:03:24.360 inoculations with proven benefits

00:03:26.220 and safety records. I can't wait for

00:03:28.260 rabies to reappear on the scene or

00:03:29.820 tetanus. When it was proven that

00:03:32.440 healthy children were immune to the ill

00:03:34.140 effects of COVID-19, schools remain

00:03:36.060 closed and it was illegal for children

00:03:37.760 to go to a playground. There was a kid

00:03:40.120 brutalized by police in Calgary for the

00:03:41.680 crime of ice skating. And again, we never

00:03:44.280 saw an apology. People can't and won't

00:03:46.320 forget this soon. It's become clear

00:03:48.380 that medical policies are more about

00:03:49.760 control than they are about protecting the

00:03:51.680 health of citizens. We need to rekindle a

00:03:54.580 relationship of trust somehow with the

00:03:56.960 state and it won't come easily. I mean,

00:03:58.860 despite courts dropping charges against

00:04:00.520 people who dare to violate control

00:04:03.060 mandates and despite the lawsuits being

00:04:04.880 won by people who lost their jobs over

00:04:06.520 vaccination status, the government hasn't

00:04:08.080 done a single thing to ensure such things

00:04:10.600 don't happen again. We remain one viral

00:04:12.460 outbreak away from another mass overreaction

00:04:15.160 and the destruction of countless careers

00:04:16.740 and relationships. In some senses, we got

00:04:18.840 lucky with the COVID-19 pandemic. The virus

00:04:20.920 was devastating for elderly and sickly

00:04:23.040 people, but overall it wasn't terribly

00:04:26.180 dangerous relative to many other infectious

00:04:27.860 diseases. The Spanish flu wiped out

00:04:29.700 countless children and devastated many

00:04:31.720 healthy people. Now imagine if a disease

00:04:34.440 as lethal as the Spanish flu or the

00:04:35.940 bubonic plague appeared on the scene. Gun-shy

00:04:38.840 citizens would refuse vaccination or

00:04:41.420 quarantine efforts much more vigorously than

00:04:43.740 they did with COVID and the consequences

00:04:45.400 will be devastating. We could be fortunate

00:04:48.500 enough to have a vaccine for a new

00:04:49.880 outbreak in short order, but we can see

00:04:51.420 thousands of people dying because people

00:04:52.880 refuse to take it. They don't trust the

00:04:54.460 bloody government. That sort of outcome 0.68

00:04:56.540 will be the state's fault, not the citizens 0.57

00:04:58.460 who've been trained not to trust it. We've

00:05:01.140 got to try and encourage people to take

00:05:02.520 part in inoculation programs for tried and

00:05:04.500 true vaccinations, but that encouragement

00:05:06.460 must come through education and positive

00:05:08.820 messaging. The gun-to-the-head approach

00:05:11.080 through mandates and coercion only leads to

00:05:12.860 reduced uptake in vaccinations. Let's get

00:05:15.460 results-based policies, guys. Let's take

00:05:17.620 one lesson away from the COVID-19 debacle

00:05:19.900 if nothing else. Drop the authoritarianism

00:05:23.740 and people will take up the vaccines. But

00:05:27.060 right now it's ridiculous. Yes, things like 0.90

00:05:29.000 whooping cough and measles coming around. And

00:05:31.880 yeah, no, I don't agree with people choosing

00:05:33.740 not to get those vaccinations, but they have

00:05:35.420 the right to choose not to. And the fact that

00:05:38.700 it's increasing, the number of people who are

00:05:40.620 choosing not to, again, tells us that the policies

00:05:42.660 failed. So think harder, guys. I know that's

00:05:45.640 asking a lot. All right, let's get a view from

00:05:49.420 our man in Saskatchewan, Chris Oldcourt. He's

00:05:51.700 been running a live blog and a number of things and

00:05:53.740 he's always putting lots of stories up there at

00:05:55.460 the Western Standard. How's it going, Chris?

00:05:57.220 I'm doing well, Corey. How are you?

00:05:59.020 Pretty good, actually. Pretty good. It's nice out

00:06:00.840 here. Summer days.

00:06:01.860 So, Chris, I'll start with the most recent. You've

00:06:06.500 been kind of keeping track of the budding

00:06:08.620 Israel, Iran, so many Middle Eastern countries and

00:06:13.100 wars going on right now. Israel-Iran war going

00:06:15.200 on. What's happening out there right now?

00:06:19.020 Well, we've entered the sixth day. It started

00:06:21.060 last week and it looks like Iran is definitely up 0.98

00:06:26.560 against the ropes now. The internet is shut down in

00:06:30.520 the country. There's no news media. There is even

00:06:34.840 WhatsApp, which is the way Iranians talk to each 1.00

00:06:37.540 other, both inside and outside of Iran. Apparently,

00:06:40.440 it's the only way they can communicate without the

00:06:42.980 government interfering in the communications. And

00:06:45.960 the phone system is down. And Israel has continued to 0.60

00:06:50.240 bomb major centers and go after their state

00:06:54.360 broadcaster. Earlier today, they took out the internal

00:06:57.640 security headquarters. And it looks like, apparently,

00:07:03.160 Iran has reached out to the White House asking for a

00:07:05.880 negotiation. And then after that came public, Iran said,

00:07:08.660 no, we would never negotiate, basically. And overnight,

00:07:12.840 three airplanes left Iran to Oman, which will be

00:07:17.480 interesting because I'm guessing that the planes that went

00:07:20.740 there were not carrying civilians. They were probably

00:07:23.780 carrying the upper echelons of the Iranian Islamic regime.

00:07:30.300 Yeah. And I mean, the way Israel's hit, and you know that 1.00

00:07:32.660 this has kind of been in the works and in the planning for a

00:07:35.000 long time. I mean, the rationale is that Iran has a 0.89

00:07:39.660 nuclear program and they're getting close to having the

00:07:42.140 ability for a nuclear weapon. But is there any indication of

00:07:46.000 evidence of this somewhere? I mean, I know there's always been the

00:07:47.900 rumors. This is kind of, we get memories of the old Gulf War when

00:07:51.200 they said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, and it really

00:07:54.220 turns out they didn't. Does it look like there might be

00:07:57.340 evidence of actual nuclear capability?

00:08:00.320 In this case, yes. Apparently, they were getting close to one

00:08:05.060 functional nuclear weapon with the ability to create a few

00:08:10.420 more a little bit further down the line. I've heard anywhere from

00:08:15.440 only being 15 days away to being three to four years away for

00:08:18.780 that first one. I don't think there's any solid evidence on

00:08:22.860 exactly on how close they were. However, one of the reasons they

00:08:28.160 did this attack was to take out those nuclear enrichment

00:08:30.880 facilities. But one of them is inside of a mountain. And the

00:08:37.560 missiles that Israel has cannot take that site out. They're not 0.93

00:08:43.560 powerful enough. The only one that could take that would be the

00:08:47.020 U.S. because it requires a 30,000-pound bunker buster bomb.

00:08:53.180 And Israel doesn't have one. So if the intent is to take out 0.91

00:08:56.860 both nuclear enrichment facilities completely, the U.S. would

00:09:00.540 have to get involved because Israel doesn't presently have the 0.69

00:09:04.080 capability to do that. They can take out everything else they

00:09:06.880 want, and they can take out the other nuclear enrichment

00:09:10.040 facility that they've already actually severely damaged, according

00:09:13.720 to the International Atomic Energy Agency. And they've been also

00:09:19.640 targeting the scientists. So they are taking out the top nuclear

00:09:24.760 scientists in Iran. So even after this, it's going to take them a

00:09:28.440 while to find scientists to rebuild the program. And apparently, this

00:09:32.440 attack has been 20 years in the making. But they only decided to attack

00:09:37.000 about three months ago and got set up to do it.

00:09:40.920 Yeah. Well, I mean, it's concerning. I mean, as I said, I get a little bit of

00:09:45.480 misgivings because I look at what happened with the supposed mass weapons of mass

00:09:50.360 destruction in Iraq. But at the same time, if there's any country on the planet I 0.93

00:09:53.880 don't want having a functional nuclear weapon, it would probably be Iran. I mean, 0.99

00:09:57.160 if there's any company that actually would be perhaps be ideological and

00:10:00.920 fundamentalist enough to actually use it, that would probably be the place.

00:10:06.120 Yes. And we have seen from Iran erratic behavior. We have seen in the past them 1.00

00:10:13.320 trying to hide their nuclear enrichment program when they when they allow other

00:10:17.960 countries to come in and look at their nuclear facilities. So we know that they've

00:10:21.800 been doing this. There's no doubt that they are. The real question was how close

00:10:26.040 they actually were. And and and that we probably will never know due to the fact

00:10:30.760 that, you know, one of the enrichment facilities is essentially destroyed and

00:10:34.120 the other one at some point, I fully expect that the U.S. will get involved

00:10:38.360 and end that one as well, because they're the only one that can't. So.

00:10:42.040 Well, we'll watch things unfold and and you'll keep updating on us.

00:10:46.440 Uh, well, I got you though. I mean, what else is happening out in Saskatchewan?

00:10:49.880 Uh, what kind of stories have you got a little closer to home right now?

00:10:52.440 Uh, well, over the weekend, um, there was a street fight near the University of

00:10:58.680 Regina involving a bunch of, um, international students from India.

00:11:03.560 Uh, apparently they were fighting over a girl. Uh, and then one of them decided it

00:11:08.280 would be a great idea to go get his car and then ram it into the street fight. 0.61

00:11:12.440 So he was, uh, charged with attempted murder. Uh, he's an 18 year old student from India.

00:11:17.800 Um, and one of the individuals was taken to the hospital with a head injury.

00:11:23.160 Uh, however, there's been no update other than it. They're, they're not in the ICU.

00:11:27.240 Uh, so it's not, uh, wasn't a, you know, life threatening head injury.

00:11:32.680 And a few people were treated at the scene as well. So that's going on. Um, and that's been

00:11:37.560 part of an ongoing SAG at the University of Regina, uh, with regards to, um, issues with

00:11:44.360 the campus and international students. We have a, so that's, that's just par for the course presently.

00:11:50.920 Uh, and then we've got Scott Moe and, uh, Danielle Smith doing a bit of an energy tour

00:11:57.160 after the first ministers meeting up in Saskatoon, obviously touting a pipeline, uh, to particularly

00:12:04.040 the one they want to get going the quickest would be the one, uh, through BC. Uh, and then also going

00:12:10.040 north, uh, to the, uh, uh, Arctic circle. And then also if, if this could ever get done,

00:12:17.960 I don't know if Quebec would agree to it, but obviously a pipeline to, uh, both coasts would

00:12:23.960 be ideal. Uh, but, uh, they're really sort of putting their, their first attempts into getting

00:12:31.880 one to BC first. Uh, it's the faster one that could get built. It's a shorter distance to build

00:12:36.840 the pipeline and it opens up, uh, all the Asian Pacific markets, uh, for oil, for example,

00:12:43.000 from Alberta and Saskatchewan. So that's the one they're really, uh, touting. And then this

00:12:47.880 afternoon they are doing a press conference about, uh, energy and agriculture up in Lloydminster as

00:12:52.040 well. Great. Yeah. Well, it's good to see, uh, I, I think our Western premier is acting together

00:12:57.080 for common cause. They got a better chance of doing it rather than on individuals. Uh, so, and actually,

00:13:02.120 uh, I'm going to let you go pretty soon because we have an MLA who's up in that Lloydminster meeting,

00:13:05.560 who's going to come on and chat with us a bit further. So, uh, I appreciate the update. And

00:13:10.440 then, uh, before I let you go, then, uh, what else can we look forward to coming from you? Got some,

00:13:14.680 any stuff in the works, sir? Yeah, I got a couple of other stories coming. Uh, one is about, um,

00:13:20.680 the gen approves the gender identity curriculum since 2015, uh, approved by the Saskatchewan government,

00:13:28.600 which has got some very interesting things in it, including not telling your students about

00:13:35.880 heterosexual privilege and incorporating minorities into your everyday classroom work, like two trans 0.73

00:13:43.880 people and one gay person walked into a bar. How many people is there in total? Uh, and literally

00:13:49.080 things like that. It's how teachers are supposed to do math in classrooms and things like that. So

00:13:53.800 that's going to be, uh, a very eyeopening story for people, particularly since it's been approved

00:13:59.000 since 2015, a decade ago. Well, we're living in bizarre times. I appreciate you, uh, writing it up

00:14:05.240 and covering it for us anyways. So, uh, thanks for, for the update today, Chris, and, uh, hope we get

00:14:09.560 to talk again soon. Sounds good. Thanks, Corey. Great. Thank you. So that is Chris Oldcorn. Uh,

00:14:14.200 for regular standard readers, you know, his name, cause you see him, he posts a lot of stories. He covers a lot,

00:14:18.920 you know, beyond just the, the stuff going on right in Saskatchewan, but broader issues as, uh,

00:14:23.480 we were talking about with the, the ongoing things in Iran and the mess going on over there.

00:14:28.040 Okay. So I know he has limited time. So let's bring in Eric Bouchard. He's the MLA for Calgary

00:14:32.520 Fish Creek. As I said, he's up in Lloydminster and kind of dialing in while he can. How are you doing, Eric?

00:14:37.720 I'm doing well, Corey. How are you?

00:14:39.960 Really good. Really good. Um, so, I mean, what a fascinating time to get you and good timing while

00:14:46.120 you're up in Lloyd there, what I want to talk about, uh, of course is you have a town hall

00:14:52.040 meeting coming up in, in, uh, Calgary on independence. Can you kind of expand on that?

00:14:56.760 Certainly. Yeah. We have a town hall on June 25th and it's titled the courage to listen

00:15:03.080 and exploring what sovereignty within a United Canada means for Alberta. We've got, uh, you know,

00:15:08.760 quite the lineup of speakers showing up. You know, we have, uh, Chris Sims from the Canadian

00:15:13.080 federal Canadian taxpayers federation, uh, a couple other economists. We've got lawyers. We have, you

00:15:20.760 know, we want to present a dialogue, uh, showing all sides of, of a very topical and very important

00:15:27.800 conversation. So, so we just, we, we plan this, I think maybe a month before the election and yeah,

00:15:33.800 June 25th. Uh, if you haven't got your tickets yet, you can find them at a courage to listen.ca.

00:15:38.920 And, uh, yeah, we hope to see as many people there, uh, expecting another packed house.

00:15:43.960 Yeah. Well, it was a good title for the event. Uh, in the fact that it's, it's there to listen,

00:15:48.040 you're not necessarily taking a side one way or another. And the fact that you have to show

00:15:51.560 courage to even have an event where you can discuss these things, there's been some pretty, uh, uh,

00:15:56.040 I guess you'd say hysteric opposition, people feeling that such a town hall shouldn't even be held.

00:15:59.960 It is, uh, it's, it's shocking to be, uh, to be completely frank that, uh, if people don't agree

00:16:07.960 with, with a con, agree with a subject that you like, I, I don't know what the answer is. Um,

00:16:13.960 you and I talked, uh, chatted a while ago, you know, my dad came, uh, to Canada from England after

00:16:19.320 World War II. And we did have, uh, the Monarchist League of Canada was, uh, was set to speak,

00:16:25.320 but they didn't, uh, feel that they had enough time to prepare to present, but I don't, I don't

00:16:30.920 know what the answer is. And, uh, so that's why we're trying to, you know, with, with as many

00:16:35.880 people as possible, explore what it looks like, what, what a framework for, for Alberta moving

00:16:41.320 forward is, you know, the constituents of Calgary Lougheed, who I represent, uh, shortly after the

00:16:46.360 election, um, many emails, you know, many people coming into the office there, they certainly have

00:16:52.120 a lot of questions, so I don't have the answers. So we're going to let, uh, we're going to trust

00:16:56.440 the experts and let, uh, let them answer any questions that people may have.

00:17:01.240 Yeah. Well, and the interest in this event, I mean, it hasn't just been negative. That's

00:17:04.440 the stuff that tends to make the news, but it sounds like a lot of people are really looking

00:17:07.400 forward to this, uh, from a positive perspective as well.

00:17:11.000 I think so. Yeah. I think it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's such an important conversation.

00:17:14.840 You know, I, I understand. Well, one of our speakers, uh, Jeff Rath for a lawyer and, uh,

00:17:19.720 I think Alberta prosperity project, uh, they're pulling putting out today. I don't know if it's

00:17:23.880 been released yet, but they have a, uh, a fully costed financial plan for what, uh,

00:17:28.280 an independent Alberta would look like. So I'm, you know, I'm willing to listen to all sides to,

00:17:34.600 to any conversation, not shut anything down. So, and I think there's, there is a lot of interest.

00:17:39.480 There should be a lot of interest because Alberta has been at the forefront, uh, of, you know,

00:17:44.600 leading Canada for, for quite a long time now. And I think we should, and will continue being

00:17:50.600 the leader, you know, Canada does better when Alberta does better. Yeah. Well, and then further

00:17:55.720 from Alberta, as you might've heard earlier, I had Chris Oldcorn on from Saskatchewan and you're

00:18:00.040 coming from Lloyd, uh, you know, that perfect border city, half in Saskatchewan, half in Alberta,

00:18:04.840 and it's kind of a combined caucus meeting you got going on there. It is. Yeah. So we have both,

00:18:09.160 uh, both governments, the Saskatchewan party and then the United conservative party. Uh,

00:18:13.240 we've been meeting all day, uh, had meetings this morning with some of the town councillors and,

00:18:17.880 uh, yeah, we just got underway a little while ago with, uh, with both governments and, uh, all

00:18:23.640 afternoon and there will be a press conference as your previous guest had mentioned. And, uh,

00:18:28.120 I would imagine some of the topics that we'll be speaking of, uh, will be brought up.

00:18:33.000 Yeah. Well, Saskatchewan and Alberta have a great deal in common. And I, I imagine, um, just as far

00:18:38.520 as two governments getting together with a few folks in the same room, you must be, uh, sharing a lot

00:18:43.080 of, uh, like interests. It's been, it's been amazing so far, you know, I didn't know, uh,

00:18:49.000 any, any government officials from, uh, from the Saskatchewan government up until this morning.

00:18:54.360 And, uh, yeah, people are wonderful. Just some great conversations, uh, certainly common interests

00:18:59.240 and, and very like-minded. So I'm, I'm looking forward to the afternoon of networking and, uh,

00:19:04.520 you know, staying in close, close contact with some people. And, uh, yeah, one side note,

00:19:08.840 I've, I've spoken with a couple, uh, they just recently had their election and, uh, spoke with

00:19:13.720 a couple new MLAs who, who were completely brand new, which, uh, was, was exactly where I was just,

00:19:20.280 uh, just over two years ago. So, um, we, we, we certainly have a lot of, uh, common, common ground

00:19:26.440 and common interest to go over. Great. Well, it sounds like a really positive gathering and I,

00:19:31.800 I know you've got a hard out, you got to get back to it there. So, uh, is there anything else you'd

00:19:35.800 like to add before I let you get back to work there? Um, well, I think, you know,

00:19:40.840 I guess going back to the shutting down conversations, I think, you know, we're, we're,

00:19:45.080 we're in a place in society now where I think it's, it's more important than ever to have dialogue.

00:19:50.440 And, and regardless if you agree or disagree, my hope is that, you know, people, people can find,

00:19:56.840 you know, some common ground, or if you don't leave, leave, like you felt like you, uh,

00:20:01.560 you were part of a conversation and, and I would encourage those who, who may, may push back on,

00:20:07.880 on what we're doing specifically in Calgary Lougheed with our town hall. Um, you know,

00:20:13.000 give it a listen, give it a try. You know, if, if you don't, if it's not for you, that's,

00:20:17.160 that's fine too. But, uh, you know, I look at, I come from, uh, my background previous was in the

00:20:23.080 small business sector and I, I w I would never dream of alienating customers. And, uh, you know,

00:20:28.760 I think so, so important now to, to, to open the doors to anyone, to have dialogue.

00:20:35.160 Great. Well, I appreciate you stepping up to, to, to hold that event there. And, uh, I I'm

00:20:40.280 looking forward to it. I'm, it'll sure, sure be interesting if nothing else. So, uh, thank you

00:20:45.160 again for, for giving us some of your time today, uh, Mr. Bouchard. And, uh, we'll, we'll talk again soon.

00:20:49.240 Always a pleasure. Thanks very much for having me on, Corey.

00:20:51.880 Great. Thanks.

00:20:52.920 You bet. Bye-bye.

00:20:54.120 Bye.

00:20:55.000 So we'll bring in, uh, Daryl, uh, Comick as well, uh, to, to kind of expand on it. He works

00:21:01.320 down in Calgary fish Creek. Some people might know him. He's been very active in, in organizing

00:21:05.160 and putting things together. And I imagine he's, he's pretty immersed in this event. Cause I know

00:21:08.600 Eric had to, to run fairly quickly and I wanted to discuss this a little further. So, uh, maybe

00:21:13.720 Daryl can expand a little bit on, uh, uh, what sort of a space we got left Daryl and, and how people

00:21:19.320 can, uh, take part in this town hall.

00:21:21.160 Uh, thank you, Corey. I mean, participating in the courage to listen, I mean, the idea was to

00:21:26.280 build a, a framework for a sovereign Alberta within the United Canada. And so in order to do that,

00:21:31.240 we wanted to have speakers across the entire spectrum, uh, with multiple perspectives. I mean,

00:21:38.120 we, uh, we see the very, um, organized efforts to, uh, speak to independence, which has been really

00:21:45.160 well done. And, and now we're seeing a lot of pushback, uh, from a group called Reboot, uh,

00:21:51.400 to try to shut down, uh, gatherings of people anywhere, uh, and limit free speech. So it's

00:21:57.400 important, I think to, uh, say, Hey, you know, let's come and have the conversation as Eric says,

00:22:02.440 and in Lahi, we have a saying, it says that, uh, let's, let's win people over one conversation at a

00:22:07.000 time. Let's not prejudge where people come from. Uh, and let's try to, uh, be gentle and, and

00:22:13.720 listen to what people say. So this time, uh, we went with something that said the courage to listen.

00:22:18.120 It's a name that really, uh, speaks to our approach, which is to, uh, be open, have active dialogue.

00:22:24.920 And the courage to listen is really going to have some amazing speakers. I mean, yes, uh,

00:22:29.960 you're going to see people like Jeff Wrath, uh, Mitch Sylvester. Uh, you'll see Chris Sims,

00:22:34.360 Bruce Party, uh, they'll be there, but you'll also, uh, hear from, uh, Ben Trudeau. Now,

00:22:38.280 Ben Trudeau has a very interesting story. He was actually one of the people in the room

00:22:42.600 when they wrote the original sovereignty question in Quebec, but he, he sees, um, sovereignty in

00:22:48.280 Alberta very differently. Uh, certainly he has a framework for a sovereign Alberta within the United

00:22:54.040 Canada and talks about how people can actually, how Albertans could actually, uh, benefit inside of

00:22:59.560 Canada, uh, if they actually, um, worked within the parameters as opposed to simply being a shill for

00:23:07.480 the federal government. Yeah. Well, there's a few perspectives. I think the regional alienation,

00:23:12.760 the frustration, that's something common among, I'm sure a large majority of Albertans, but

00:23:19.240 Albertans are still divided on how to address that, how to deal with it. And I mean, the definition of

00:23:23.880 sovereignty itself, uh, depending on who you ask could mean different things. So this event kind

00:23:29.160 of offers people to give a few different views on that. Well, you have to ask yourself, you know,

00:23:33.160 do you feel that Alberta is treated fairly by Ottawa? That's the first question. If, if you say yes,

00:23:39.320 then you, you have a predisposed idea on how, how good we have it in Alberta and how, how much Canada

00:23:45.960 gives back to Alberta. Uh, if you say, well, maybe, uh, maybe I'm thinking back to the equalization

00:23:51.880 referendum that we've already had where 62% of Albertans says, no, we want to see, uh, the

00:23:57.320 changed equalization. That is an incredibly complicated process because that requires a

00:24:01.800 constitutional change. We've seen Meach Lake. We've seen so many other issues where you can't

00:24:06.920 change the constitution in Canada because the people receiving the money that comes from excess

00:24:13.000 money that Alberta, uh, generates and sends to Ottawa, they don't want to give it up. So in order to

00:24:19.240 come up with, uh, some solutions here, uh, we need to have the active conversation. I mean,

00:24:23.800 Peter Lougheed, uh, did it in 79 through 81. And that of course, uh, related to, um, Alberta wanting

00:24:30.600 to see, receive world price for oil. So interestingly enough, it was about oil at the time, uh, at the

00:24:37.320 time, uh, the federal government said, no, you need to subsidize the rest of Canada with your,

00:24:42.280 the price of your oil that changed. Uh, but that took a lot of pressure that took a lot of people

00:24:47.960 saying, no, this is not a fair deal. I remember back to 1931, that's when Alberta actually got

00:24:53.400 the rights to, uh, the resources here in, in our province. So the deal has always been a little,

00:25:00.040 uh, inequitable. And if, when you read Jeff Rath's, uh, uh, package that called the value of freedom,

00:25:06.360 you'll see that basically Alberta is $50 billion contributes an extra $50 billion. And then from that,

00:25:12.920 we get a small portion back. So, uh, uh, there's going to be multiple frameworks to debate with

00:25:18.840 people, uh, and for them to listen about different perspectives. So I encourage you to have a ticket,

00:25:23.160 get a ticket, you can watch it, you can either stream it, uh, or you can come in person to the

00:25:28.360 town hall. Uh, we have a number of different varieties of it or options available for people.

00:25:33.480 And so if you go to our website, that courage to listen.ca, uh, you can see and get all the

00:25:39.960 tickets there. Yeah. So your venue is solid. I mean, you, you, you pointed out that, that those

00:25:44.440 clowns of reboot are trying to shut things down. I know there was an APP event that they managed to 0.78

00:25:48.920 intimidate a host from backing down and closing the venue. I mean, when I look at something where

00:25:53.720 there's two sides to it and I see one side doesn't want to allow others to debate, I almost automatically

00:25:59.640 assume that the anti-speech people are wrong. Uh, I, I appreciate you guys, you know, you're not

00:26:05.240 letting them push you around. I mean, I was at an event last weekend and red deer, a large one.

00:26:10.840 And, uh, there was the, one of the high points of it was a debate between, uh, was it night leg and,

00:26:16.120 and, uh, Keith Wilson, right. Both on, uh, you know, with different views on independence. And I tell

00:26:21.320 you, you know, leg was in the majority in there, but the room was absolutely polite and welcoming to that

00:26:25.720 different point of view being up there. There there's quite a different attitude. I think

00:26:29.480 among the conservative folks who want to welcome discourse and some different ideas. And then the,

00:26:33.960 the clowns like reboot, who just want to shut down all possible different points of view. 0.85

00:26:38.840 We've had experience of course, with this group before when we did, uh, our kids event called, 0.93

00:26:43.880 uh, let kids be kids. That was an event that talked about child pornography and libraries.

00:26:48.840 Uh, they tried to shut us down at the venue. They caused a lot of problems for the venue, uh, cost them

00:26:54.280 a lot of money because they took a perspective to try to damage small business. So this,

00:26:59.240 this is the challenge that we're seeing out there right now is that these groups,

00:27:04.040 uh, want to shut you down from speaking. Now they're keyboard warriors. They're happy to

00:27:09.000 do all sorts of intimidating things online. Uh, but when it actually comes to talking and debating the

00:27:14.440 points, they don't have any points to debate that that's what they tell me. Like you said there,

00:27:18.680 I mean, as soon as they try to shut you down from the beginning, you know, they don't have much to say

00:27:23.400 that is constructive. So we're going to have a calm conversation, a dialogue, so to speak. Uh,

00:27:29.240 we're not looking to, uh, to raise any Barnes or anything like that. This is going to be a long

00:27:35.000 process of education for Albertans. They need to know that. And by having multiple, uh, views,

00:27:40.600 I think Albertans are smart enough that they're going to pick the path. They're going to understand,

00:27:44.360 uh, what is best for Albertans, uh, in the long run. And how we define sovereignty is really

00:27:50.200 irrelevant right now. I mean, this is stage one of a seven stage process that would literally occur.

00:27:55.480 So should there be, uh, the activation of the citizens initiative act, then there'll be a

00:28:01.080 referendum. There'll be more education. Then there'll be a vote. I mean, this is a long time

00:28:05.480 coming. So people are going to have to have the opportunity to listen. And I mean, we saw it,

00:28:09.720 we got one of our speakers got shut down, uh, last week because, uh, groups felt that we shouldn't

00:28:16.200 have a federalist speaking. The federalists themselves didn't think that the federalists

00:28:20.120 person should be speaking, uh, about why it was valuable for Albert to be in Canada. So

00:28:24.760 that confusion, it's a way that, um, the, the quiet, not even the quiet, the very minor, uh,

00:28:32.200 opposition, uh, tries to intimidate what looks like a very large movement to want to listen and want to

00:28:39.160 understand. Yeah. It's frustrating. And, and you know, I find it insulting because it's their way of

00:28:45.000 telling Albertans, we don't trust you to make up your own mind. We don't trust you to listen to

00:28:49.880 different voices. So we want to take away the ability for you to even hear those. So you don't

00:28:54.840 make a decision that we don't agree with. It's really a vile attitude. Well, it's intellectual

00:28:59.800 warfare. And I think, uh, one of the challenges we have with Canadians is sometimes we're 0.91

00:29:03.720 intellectually lazy. We don't seek out more information. We just want what's spoon fed.

00:29:08.440 It's easy. Uh, but understanding deep, complex issues or maybe even simple issues just requires a

00:29:14.440 certain amount of critical thinking. And these days we're not seeing a lot of critical thinking.

00:29:18.520 We're not seeing a lot of people think about, I mean, I'm even looking at something new,

00:29:22.120 Bill C-5. If you read the fine print of that, um, build the nation plan, it says that the federal

00:29:28.440 government can take away any and all rights of individuals and laws at its whim in perpetuity.

00:29:33.320 So that's a very concerning thing. It reminds me a lot of the history. And if we look back at history,

00:29:39.160 we see that it repeats itself. So are we at the same point as we were in 1979, 81? I don't know.

00:29:45.480 Uh, but what I do know is that people should have the willingness to want to listen,

00:29:49.080 uh, to come out, uh, and just to show a little courage, show a little spine

00:29:53.640 so you can speak intelligently about these topics.

00:29:55.960 Absolutely. Well, well, thank you again. I know you never shy away from any, uh,

00:30:00.440 debates there, Daryl. Uh, you welcome it on many fronts and venues. So I appreciate that. And I

00:30:05.160 appreciate you coming on today. Uh, maybe just before I let you go one more time, where can people find

00:30:09.000 information on this for the stream or to take part? Uh, it's very simple, uh, thecouragetolisten.ca.

00:30:15.080 You can get the tickets there, or you can go to our other website, ucpcalgarylawheat.ca.

00:30:20.120 We have a lot of information that's posted there. It gives the overview of the speakers. Uh, and in

00:30:24.600 fact, I think we just posted momentarily, uh, go, uh, the first of several papers that we will post for

00:30:30.760 people to get information. Uh, this one, the value of freedom, uh, and we'll have others about building a

00:30:35.720 framework. Excellent. Thanks again, Daryl. Great to talk to you. And, uh, maybe I'll see you there.

00:30:40.280 Thank you, Corey. Right on. So yeah, check that out guys. The courage to listen. Like I said,

00:30:45.080 I love that title because again, it's not even taken aside. It's just saying, and it's sad that

00:30:48.600 you have to show courage to have an event where people can listen, but that's what we're at now.

00:30:53.160 That's what is going on when they're trying to shut down the venues, trying to shut down the

00:30:56.920 discourse. And they did it before. And people said it was hyperbolic when they were talking about,

00:31:00.920 yeah, the child porn in libraries. We saw it coming up recently from the government.

00:31:04.520 There were in children's school libraries books with, with men having oral sex with each other. 0.97

00:31:11.800 It's bizarre that anybody in their right mind can think these things are, are acceptable,

00:31:18.040 but you know, if we don't expose them, we can't fix them. And I, I really get frustrated with, uh,

00:31:24.520 you know, one side that always is trying to shut down or shut the speech down on another one. That's

00:31:29.320 when my back gets up and it, it just seems to be, I understand there's people on the fringe

00:31:34.440 of the right. Absolutely. They exist, but they don't seem to take the tact of trying to shut

00:31:39.080 down discourse of their opponents. They, they do their other things, but the far left, I mean,

00:31:42.600 I've seen that at universities where they're standing outside in the hallway with bullhorns

00:31:46.200 and banging on drums and banging on doors and kicking windows because they don't like a speaker

00:31:51.160 who's come to the university. This is wrong. This is wrong. You know, I, I wish the left would kind of

00:31:56.520 have just a little bit of looking at themselves and where they came from. Look back to the sixties,

00:32:02.600 look back to Berkeley, you know, which now is just a hotbed of vile extremism, but that used to be the

00:32:08.680 place where it was the other way around. It was the old conservatives who were trying to shut down.

00:32:13.320 They were knocking down protests, the anti-war protests. They were trying to shut down speech.

00:32:17.880 You, you, you had McCarthyism wasn't that long prior to that. And these were left wing,

00:32:23.880 but they were freedom minded people at these universities. They were fighting for the right

00:32:27.880 to express, to debate, to protest. And now they've morphed into this authoritarian animal

00:32:34.440 that doesn't feel people have the right to get together and discuss issues, even if they're

00:32:38.840 sensitive, even if not everybody agrees with them. So always err on the side of freedom, folks, always.

00:32:47.960 Err on the side of free speech. It means you might have to hear things you don't like. You got to hear

00:32:52.280 from people you don't disagree with. It might make a movement go forward a little bit that you don't

00:32:57.080 think is going to be good for you or your country. Debate it then or counter organize, run a different

00:33:04.600 group, hold a different meeting, but don't try to shut down speech. That's always wrong. Always.

00:33:12.760 So I'm really thrilled that Daryl and Eric are, you know, staying steadfast and pushing this along

00:33:19.400 because these kinds of things are very, very important. It doesn't matter what side of it

00:33:22.280 you're on. Having these open discourses, this sort of thing, cutting through the BS, the rabble 0.97

00:33:28.520 is essential. I mean, look at social media today where we are exposed to so much misinformation,

00:33:33.800 so much spun stuff. And it comes from the left. It comes from the right. Can you, there's no beating,

00:33:39.320 getting people into the same room together and exchanging ideas, discussing and debating because

00:33:45.560 there's no internet filter. There's no AI. There's nothing else in between you and that person.

00:33:49.880 That's an actual interaction. That's the way good things come about. So I thank them for that. All

00:33:55.960 right, let's get through some of the comments. I guess I'll, I'll kind of dial back because it went

00:33:59.160 back a ways with Cyril Arnold saying, we're back to the Iran issue going on with Israel. I think Iran has 0.99

00:34:06.120 deals with Russia. They want to have a problem recovering their nuclear program. Okay. Yeah. Russia's 0.51

00:34:10.120 been kind of backing Iran, but you know, that's one of the things I was thinking on.

00:34:13.720 If Russia wanted Iran to have a nuke, Russia has plenty of them left over from the Cold War. 0.53

00:34:17.480 They could just drop one by through Uber Eats or whatever way they would get one there. I think

00:34:22.600 Russia likes using Iran as a disruptor in the Middle East, and they're certainly a source of oil, 1.00

00:34:26.920 but that's what I was talking about is of all the places to be a nuclear power, most people would be

00:34:31.160 worried about Iran because even Russia doesn't want to see a nuke actually used. And Iran is one of 0.99

00:34:36.120 the countries that if they got one, there's a really good chance they would actually use it. And,

00:34:41.160 you know, 90% of the world, China, Russia, even, and so on, they don't want to see that.

00:34:45.880 They want to see many nasty things, but they don't want to see a nuclear war, but who knows?

00:34:49.880 But I don't know if Russia's that eager to keep Iran nuclear able. They just like to keep Iran there 1.00

00:34:55.960 as a spoiler.

00:34:57.160 KJF saying what a pipeline to Skagway being an option. So Skagway is kind of up in Alaska. That

00:35:03.880 was the big jump off point for the Klondike rush. You'd have to cross BC and then into the States for 0.99

00:35:09.640 that. I don't know. I think, you know, expanding capability to Prince Rupert would probably be more

00:35:14.360 likely to get in the short term, but we've got to look at all options there. I see Debbie checking in

00:35:19.160 from Tabor. Good to see you. Jacqueline Littler saying no sovereignty inside Canada, straight

00:35:26.200 independence. And yeah, that's what we're talking about. You know, that there's different definitions.

00:35:30.440 You find five Albertans and I think four out of five are upset with the status quo,

00:35:35.240 but three out of four are going to have different definitions on what independence is if they're trying

00:35:41.400 to pursue it. So, you know, we got to iron a lot of that out. We got to hammer it out.

00:35:46.840 And some people have talked about a lot too is, well, what's the costing? It sounds like

00:35:51.160 Jeff Rath has something coming out pretty soon to address a bunch of that. Jeff's a colorful

00:35:55.800 character. He's, you know, quite the person who's been on the front with the Alberta Prosperity

00:35:59.960 Project, but he's dedicated to it and he can put out some reasonable stuff. So it'd be interesting to

00:36:04.280 see those documents coming out. There it is. Okay. Searle is saying, yeah, the Alberta Prosperity Project

00:36:11.320 just emailed their fiscal plan to everyone who signed up on their emailing list and he's reading it right now.

00:36:16.440 So, uh, you know, we'll keep breaking it down. There's a lot to do. I was just reading,

00:36:22.040 uh, Israel Avant sent it to me, actually an executive summary. I'm still working my way through it.

00:36:26.920 Quebec did a massive amount of this kind of work back in the nineties and it's gotten forgotten.

00:36:31.160 They got a lot of, uh, experts, professors, people from all over and addressed loads of the questions

00:36:38.600 on what independence would look like and what they're working towards. And sovereignty was one of

00:36:42.440 their prime terms for it. And we, that, that, you know, the executive summary, I think is a hundred

00:36:47.320 and some pages. And then the stuff itself is just volumes and volumes. The only thing in English so

00:36:51.080 far is just the executive summary, but even there, there's a lot and we don't need to reinvent a lot of

00:36:55.400 these wheels. We need to be looking back at some of the stuff that Quebec's already done. And sure,

00:36:59.560 you've got to adjust some things for a Western perspective, but a lot of it can be applied here,

00:37:04.200 but we got a lot of work to do in a relatively short time. Um, it's looking most likely we're

00:37:12.040 going to have a referendum on this in, uh, early 2026, maybe mid 2026. So that is not too long.

00:37:19.960 I mean, some people say, Oh, that's a year. That's a long time. Well, for the amount of stuff

00:37:23.400 that has to be done, and I'm not just talking about the logistics, though, that's a big part too.

00:37:28.680 Uh, just getting the petitioning, you know, again, the bar has been lowered. People are acting as if,

00:37:34.360 uh, it would be easy to trigger, uh, a referendum. No, it wouldn't be that easy. People who haven't

00:37:40.600 done a real official petition don't understand just how tough it is. Uh, I should have almost

00:37:45.800 kept Daryl on to speak to it. He knows about it. He took part, I believe in help with the, uh,

00:37:49.240 recall Gondek thing, or at least he was watching it closely and they got, I believe close to 70,000

00:37:54.120 signatures. It was, it was quite a feat, but a well short of the ridiculous bar that used to be set

00:37:59.480 there. And that took hundreds and hundreds of people putting in countless hours to get that.

00:38:04.440 But it also shows 177,000 across the province with four months and with the attitudes now,

00:38:09.080 absolutely that will get done. So now that that bar is achievable though, making that tipping

00:38:15.720 point for those who want independence, those who vote to make their mind up and put that X there.

00:38:21.720 And that's a big decision for a lot of people. It really is. There's a lot of people on the fence

00:38:25.880 on that. There's a lot of people not necessarily convinced. There's a lot of question marks and

00:38:30.440 those need to keep getting filled. The economic ones, the post-independence ones, or just addressing

00:38:36.440 people's concerns as, as we get up to it, it's going to be a lot of work. There's a solid 30,

00:38:42.280 some say 40% support for it. I don't know, but we're going to get well over 50. If you're really

00:38:47.640 looking for a positive independence vote and that, well, some of that's in the federal government's

00:38:53.400 ballpark. It depends on what Carney does in the next six months. Cause he can certainly raise the

00:38:57.640 support or you know what? I'll tell you what, he could deflate it. If he actually showed leadership,

00:39:03.960 actually showed that this is a federation. And that means one of the few areas where central

00:39:08.120 leadership will intervene is when they're saying this is intra-provincial infrastructure and we're

00:39:14.120 going to get it done. Shut up, Mr. Eby. Shut up, Mr. Legault. We're getting a pipeline across. Your 0.96

00:39:20.280 provinces will consult you or respect you, but you cannot stop it because the purpose of a federation

00:39:26.040 is to have that ability to get product unhindered back and forth on each side.

00:39:30.920 If he did something like that, I could see independent support flatlining. At least it

00:39:35.400 wouldn't grow further because that's one of the frustrations, but I don't think Carney's going to

00:39:38.680 do it. That's the thing. So, but a lot of that bowl, you know, is in his court right now. So we'll

00:39:46.040 see what happens with that. Uh, oh boy, you know, and then we got Mike here still talking about his

00:39:52.360 beekeeping. This is a different fella freedom, honey, and not a bad guy for some of his veteran

00:39:57.320 work, but he's claiming he's a better beekeeper, but I don't know. I've seen him bounce around with

00:40:01.080 those ugly plastic hives of his, and I wouldn't put much stock in it. This product's pretty good,

00:40:06.440 but I don't see any ribbons from local fairs on any of his honey yet. Uh, let's see what else we got

00:40:13.080 going on out there. Uh, so, so Ryan free Albert and say, we need to then decide the way out. Um,

00:40:20.920 why does anyone mention open market on cellular providers internet providers can save every

00:40:24.840 households a hundred a month. Yeah. Well, there's lots of things. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Canada's

00:40:27.640 got some of the most expensive cellular data and all that things in the world. So it's kind of a bit

00:40:32.920 of both. I know what you're saying. You see, one of the risks for the independent movement is

00:40:37.560 independence movement is going down the road of what about ism and you bounce around,

00:40:42.200 you're asking questions and you're asking and you're casting doubt and you're all over the map

00:40:46.200 and you're never actually getting done because you're spinning your wheels. The reality is we've

00:40:49.240 got to focus on getting people to mark yes on an independence vote. Everything else will have to

00:40:54.280 happen after that. Anyways, we could talk about a lot of things that will happen after that.

00:40:58.360 But first things first, the campaign has to be mostly focused on getting a person with

00:41:02.200 two things to choose from, and they will choose one and independence minded people want it to be yes.

00:41:07.400 But at the same time, to convince people to make that decision, you've got to have some depth

00:41:13.640 behind the movement. You've got to make people comfortable. So it's not written in stone what

00:41:18.680 will happen the day after a yes vote, but you've got to have a pretty good idea of what's going to

00:41:23.000 happen. There's got to be a vision. I talked about that in one of the videos on my personal channel

00:41:27.960 a little while back, but it was an Ayn Rand quote. But she talked about how you, you know,

00:41:32.360 I'm just paraphrasing, but basically no movement has ever been successful just breaking away from

00:41:37.640 something. You have to move towards something. You have to build something. So we've also got,

00:41:43.800 we know what we want to get away from. That's pretty clear. But we also have to tell people

00:41:48.520 what we're moving towards. And, uh, that's being filled out, but it's going to take some time. And

00:41:54.120 then it's going to take a lot of time to get that out to the other people. Uh, J.R. Michael,

00:41:58.840 ensure to keep the separatist parties in the background. We can utilize the existing government

00:42:02.760 in place and decide afterwards. Yeah. That's where there's been another big discussion.

00:42:07.480 We'll see. I'm watching the by-elections closely. I'm not big on the party approach to it. I've been

00:42:13.000 there. I've run twice actually under independence banners a long time ago, and it doesn't get

00:42:17.960 anywhere. You smack your face against the wall and we don't get any closer to independence through that.

00:42:22.840 It has to be referendum focused. And I know some people are saying no harm,

00:42:26.360 no foul. The parties aren't hurting anything. Well, aren't they? The thing is that we only have so

00:42:32.360 much intellectual energy. We only have so many resources with thinking on subjects, discussing

00:42:38.520 subjects, promoting subjects, raising money for them, campaigning for them. And independence

00:42:44.200 parties are gobbling into that a bit, yet not really moving us anywhere closer to the finish line

00:42:48.360 because they don't get anywhere when they run in the elections. So we're losing resources that really

00:42:53.960 could be better dedicated to working towards that yes vote if that's really where you want to go.

00:42:57.800 Not to say everybody in the independence parties are bad or anything, but they're just not doing it.

00:43:01.160 It's not working. We'll see what the Olds did, Three Hills. I mean, that's the most

00:43:05.320 fertile area for an independence party to possibly do well. Unfortunately, the dominant one is the

00:43:11.480 Republican Party, which frankly is weird and sprung out of nowhere, seems to have some funding that

00:43:16.920 nobody can quite pin down where it came from, runs signs that look like they're liberal, divides the

00:43:21.400 movement by attaching itself to an American movement, and I just don't think is doing the

00:43:26.040 independence movement a bloody bit of good. But that's up to the voters in Old Stidsbury,

00:43:30.360 Three Hills to see what they say about it. But the irony is no matter how they do,

00:43:33.480 it's going to hurt the independence movement because if they do well, they're still establishing

00:43:36.360 themselves as a voice for it. And if they do poorly, people will say, well, look at that.

00:43:39.480 They couldn't even do well in Old Stidsbury, Three Hills, but it's their right to run by all means.

00:43:44.760 And again, that decision is up to the citizens of Old Stidsbury, Three Hills and nobody else.

00:43:50.840 J.R. Michael saying, Danielle has given us the path for a reason. She can't come out and say she

00:43:53.880 supports it, but she can give us a path. It says a lot. I completely agree. Look,

00:43:58.520 and I know some people have been saying Smith has to come out and fully support this. Well,

00:44:02.200 she wasn't elected on that mandate. That wasn't what she campaigned on. We have never been given

00:44:08.120 more tools for independence than what has been handed to us. Could you imagine another premier,

00:44:14.280 actually, could you imagine Jason Kenney allowing somebody like Eric Bouchard to even hold a town

00:44:20.120 hall like that? I don't think so. Premier Smith is giving leeway to her elected representatives to be 0.99

00:44:25.880 able to go out and ask those questions and have those discussions with constituents. We're getting

00:44:29.880 as much from the premier as we should get and we can get at this time. Now, her role is to govern.

00:44:36.520 And I tell you what, she's got a whole lot of things she needs to do better in my view. 1.00

00:44:40.360 And I, you know, I talk about that on here, but whether she should jump in

00:44:44.920 and take a full independence stance, no, I don't think she should be pressured towards that. I don't

00:44:49.880 think she's considering doing that. And I just don't think that that's part of her role or job.

00:44:54.520 She just was not elected with that mandate to begin with. But time will tell. Boy, are we in

00:45:00.520 interested times, guys, and optimistic. I really do think they're good times. We're moving towards

00:45:07.400 change in a way we've never seen before. We got an opportunity like we've never seen.

00:45:10.920 We've got a lot of craziness going around in the world, whether it's the Middle East or our G7.

00:45:14.440 I barely talked about that and other things, but we'll keep on it. Keep pushing guys, stay active,

00:45:19.880 stay listening, keep sending the feedback. We'll figure out the answers and we'll make it better.

00:45:24.760 So be sure to tune into the pipeline. Nigel's got a great interview coming tomorrow as well. Hi,

00:45:29.240 Hannaford. Watch the rest of our channel, subscribe, share all that good stuff.

00:45:33.560 Thanks for tuning in today and I will see you all on the next one.

00:45:47.080 Thanks for having me.

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