CORY MORGAN SHOW： Government COVID policies have fed Canada’s measles outbreak
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Summary
Corey Morgan talks about the dangers of forced vaccinations and how they lead to a lack of trust in the state, and why we need to rekindle a relationship of trust with the state. Corey also talks about how the over-prescription of vaccines has led to a resurgence of old diseases, including measles, whooping cough, and polio.
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Three Hills. That's going to be finished by the time we
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Summit wrapped up. I don't know if really anything
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It's hard to say, but we were there covering it the whole time.
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will expand a little bit on that for us in a moment.
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the independence movement is still going strong.
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in Calgary, which of course has people worked up
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They don't even want us to talk about it. Well, too bad.
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Either way, I'm going to talk about something else
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of the population. They oppose all vaccinations.
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to take part in them. Some of they have religious
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seems to be making a reappearance in some spots.
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people who refuse vaccinations should be denied
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medical care. Hey, if you want to have that discussion
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or the potential harms of the COVID vaccination
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choosing not to, again, tells us that the policies
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been running a live blog and a number of things and
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he's always putting lots of stories up there at
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Pretty good, actually. Pretty good. It's nice out
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So, Chris, I'll start with the most recent. You've
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Israel, Iran, so many Middle Eastern countries and
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last week and it looks like Iran is definitely up
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against the ropes now. The internet is shut down in
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the country. There's no news media. There is even
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WhatsApp, which is the way Iranians talk to each
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other, both inside and outside of Iran. Apparently,
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it's the only way they can communicate without the
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government interfering in the communications. And
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the phone system is down. And Israel has continued to
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broadcaster. Earlier today, they took out the internal
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security headquarters. And it looks like, apparently,
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Iran has reached out to the White House asking for a
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negotiation. And then after that came public, Iran said,
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no, we would never negotiate, basically. And overnight,
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three airplanes left Iran to Oman, which will be
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interesting because I'm guessing that the planes that went
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there were not carrying civilians. They were probably
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carrying the upper echelons of the Iranian Islamic regime.
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Yeah. And I mean, the way Israel's hit, and you know that
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this has kind of been in the works and in the planning for a
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long time. I mean, the rationale is that Iran has a
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nuclear program and they're getting close to having the
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ability for a nuclear weapon. But is there any indication of
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evidence of this somewhere? I mean, I know there's always been the
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rumors. This is kind of, we get memories of the old Gulf War when
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they said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, and it really
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turns out they didn't. Does it look like there might be
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In this case, yes. Apparently, they were getting close to one
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functional nuclear weapon with the ability to create a few
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more a little bit further down the line. I've heard anywhere from
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only being 15 days away to being three to four years away for
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that first one. I don't think there's any solid evidence on
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exactly on how close they were. However, one of the reasons they
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did this attack was to take out those nuclear enrichment
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facilities. But one of them is inside of a mountain. And the
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missiles that Israel has cannot take that site out. They're not
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powerful enough. The only one that could take that would be the
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U.S. because it requires a 30,000-pound bunker buster bomb.
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And Israel doesn't have one. So if the intent is to take out
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both nuclear enrichment facilities completely, the U.S. would
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have to get involved because Israel doesn't presently have the
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capability to do that. They can take out everything else they
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want, and they can take out the other nuclear enrichment
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facility that they've already actually severely damaged, according
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to the International Atomic Energy Agency. And they've been also
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targeting the scientists. So they are taking out the top nuclear
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scientists in Iran. So even after this, it's going to take them a
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while to find scientists to rebuild the program. And apparently, this
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attack has been 20 years in the making. But they only decided to attack
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about three months ago and got set up to do it.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, it's concerning. I mean, as I said, I get a little bit of
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misgivings because I look at what happened with the supposed mass weapons of mass
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destruction in Iraq. But at the same time, if there's any country on the planet I
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don't want having a functional nuclear weapon, it would probably be Iran. I mean,
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if there's any company that actually would be perhaps be ideological and
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fundamentalist enough to actually use it, that would probably be the place.
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Yes. And we have seen from Iran erratic behavior. We have seen in the past them
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trying to hide their nuclear enrichment program when they when they allow other
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countries to come in and look at their nuclear facilities. So we know that they've
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been doing this. There's no doubt that they are. The real question was how close
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they actually were. And and and that we probably will never know due to the fact
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that, you know, one of the enrichment facilities is essentially destroyed and
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the other one at some point, I fully expect that the U.S. will get involved
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and end that one as well, because they're the only one that can't. So.
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Well, we'll watch things unfold and and you'll keep updating on us.
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Uh, well, I got you though. I mean, what else is happening out in Saskatchewan?
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Uh, what kind of stories have you got a little closer to home right now?
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Uh, well, over the weekend, um, there was a street fight near the University of
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Regina involving a bunch of, um, international students from India.
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Uh, apparently they were fighting over a girl. Uh, and then one of them decided it
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would be a great idea to go get his car and then ram it into the street fight.
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So he was, uh, charged with attempted murder. Uh, he's an 18 year old student from India.
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Um, and one of the individuals was taken to the hospital with a head injury.
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Uh, however, there's been no update other than it. They're, they're not in the ICU.
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Uh, so it's not, uh, wasn't a, you know, life threatening head injury.
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And a few people were treated at the scene as well. So that's going on. Um, and that's been
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part of an ongoing SAG at the University of Regina, uh, with regards to, um, issues with
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the campus and international students. We have a, so that's, that's just par for the course presently.
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Uh, and then we've got Scott Moe and, uh, Danielle Smith doing a bit of an energy tour
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after the first ministers meeting up in Saskatoon, obviously touting a pipeline, uh, to particularly
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the one they want to get going the quickest would be the one, uh, through BC. Uh, and then also going
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north, uh, to the, uh, uh, Arctic circle. And then also if, if this could ever get done,
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I don't know if Quebec would agree to it, but obviously a pipeline to, uh, both coasts would
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be ideal. Uh, but, uh, they're really sort of putting their, their first attempts into getting
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one to BC first. Uh, it's the faster one that could get built. It's a shorter distance to build
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the pipeline and it opens up, uh, all the Asian Pacific markets, uh, for oil, for example,
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from Alberta and Saskatchewan. So that's the one they're really, uh, touting. And then this
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afternoon they are doing a press conference about, uh, energy and agriculture up in Lloydminster as
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well. Great. Yeah. Well, it's good to see, uh, I, I think our Western premier is acting together
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for common cause. They got a better chance of doing it rather than on individuals. Uh, so, and actually,
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uh, I'm going to let you go pretty soon because we have an MLA who's up in that Lloydminster meeting,
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who's going to come on and chat with us a bit further. So, uh, I appreciate the update. And
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then, uh, before I let you go, then, uh, what else can we look forward to coming from you? Got some,
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any stuff in the works, sir? Yeah, I got a couple of other stories coming. Uh, one is about, um,
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the gen approves the gender identity curriculum since 2015, uh, approved by the Saskatchewan government,
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which has got some very interesting things in it, including not telling your students about
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heterosexual privilege and incorporating minorities into your everyday classroom work, like two trans
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people and one gay person walked into a bar. How many people is there in total? Uh, and literally
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things like that. It's how teachers are supposed to do math in classrooms and things like that. So
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that's going to be, uh, a very eyeopening story for people, particularly since it's been approved
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since 2015, a decade ago. Well, we're living in bizarre times. I appreciate you, uh, writing it up
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and covering it for us anyways. So, uh, thanks for, for the update today, Chris, and, uh, hope we get
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to talk again soon. Sounds good. Thanks, Corey. Great. Thank you. So that is Chris Oldcorn. Uh,
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for regular standard readers, you know, his name, cause you see him, he posts a lot of stories. He covers a lot,
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you know, beyond just the, the stuff going on right in Saskatchewan, but broader issues as, uh,
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we were talking about with the, the ongoing things in Iran and the mess going on over there.
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Okay. So I know he has limited time. So let's bring in Eric Bouchard. He's the MLA for Calgary
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Fish Creek. As I said, he's up in Lloydminster and kind of dialing in while he can. How are you doing, Eric?
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Really good. Really good. Um, so, I mean, what a fascinating time to get you and good timing while
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you're up in Lloyd there, what I want to talk about, uh, of course is you have a town hall
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meeting coming up in, in, uh, Calgary on independence. Can you kind of expand on that?
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Certainly. Yeah. We have a town hall on June 25th and it's titled the courage to listen
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and exploring what sovereignty within a United Canada means for Alberta. We've got, uh, you know,
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quite the lineup of speakers showing up. You know, we have, uh, Chris Sims from the Canadian
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federal Canadian taxpayers federation, uh, a couple other economists. We've got lawyers. We have, you
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know, we want to present a dialogue, uh, showing all sides of, of a very topical and very important
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conversation. So, so we just, we, we plan this, I think maybe a month before the election and yeah,
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June 25th. Uh, if you haven't got your tickets yet, you can find them at a courage to listen.ca.
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And, uh, yeah, we hope to see as many people there, uh, expecting another packed house.
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Yeah. Well, it was a good title for the event. Uh, in the fact that it's, it's there to listen,
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you're not necessarily taking a side one way or another. And the fact that you have to show
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courage to even have an event where you can discuss these things, there's been some pretty, uh, uh,
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I guess you'd say hysteric opposition, people feeling that such a town hall shouldn't even be held.
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It is, uh, it's, it's shocking to be, uh, to be completely frank that, uh, if people don't agree
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with, with a con, agree with a subject that you like, I, I don't know what the answer is. Um,
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you and I talked, uh, chatted a while ago, you know, my dad came, uh, to Canada from England after
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World War II. And we did have, uh, the Monarchist League of Canada was, uh, was set to speak,
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but they didn't, uh, feel that they had enough time to prepare to present, but I don't, I don't
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know what the answer is. And, uh, so that's why we're trying to, you know, with, with as many
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people as possible, explore what it looks like, what, what a framework for, for Alberta moving
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forward is, you know, the constituents of Calgary Lougheed, who I represent, uh, shortly after the
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election, um, many emails, you know, many people coming into the office there, they certainly have
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a lot of questions, so I don't have the answers. So we're going to let, uh, we're going to trust
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the experts and let, uh, let them answer any questions that people may have.
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Yeah. Well, and the interest in this event, I mean, it hasn't just been negative. That's
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the stuff that tends to make the news, but it sounds like a lot of people are really looking
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forward to this, uh, from a positive perspective as well.
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I think so. Yeah. I think it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's such an important conversation.
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You know, I, I understand. Well, one of our speakers, uh, Jeff Rath for a lawyer and, uh,
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I think Alberta prosperity project, uh, they're pulling putting out today. I don't know if it's
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been released yet, but they have a, uh, a fully costed financial plan for what, uh,
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an independent Alberta would look like. So I'm, you know, I'm willing to listen to all sides to,
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to any conversation, not shut anything down. So, and I think there's, there is a lot of interest.
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There should be a lot of interest because Alberta has been at the forefront, uh, of, you know,
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leading Canada for, for quite a long time now. And I think we should, and will continue being
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the leader, you know, Canada does better when Alberta does better. Yeah. Well, and then further
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from Alberta, as you might've heard earlier, I had Chris Oldcorn on from Saskatchewan and you're
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coming from Lloyd, uh, you know, that perfect border city, half in Saskatchewan, half in Alberta,
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and it's kind of a combined caucus meeting you got going on there. It is. Yeah. So we have both,
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uh, both governments, the Saskatchewan party and then the United conservative party. Uh,
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we've been meeting all day, uh, had meetings this morning with some of the town councillors and,
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uh, yeah, we just got underway a little while ago with, uh, with both governments and, uh, all
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afternoon and there will be a press conference as your previous guest had mentioned. And, uh,
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I would imagine some of the topics that we'll be speaking of, uh, will be brought up.
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Yeah. Well, Saskatchewan and Alberta have a great deal in common. And I, I imagine, um, just as far
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as two governments getting together with a few folks in the same room, you must be, uh, sharing a lot
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of, uh, like interests. It's been, it's been amazing so far, you know, I didn't know, uh,
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any, any government officials from, uh, from the Saskatchewan government up until this morning.
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And, uh, yeah, people are wonderful. Just some great conversations, uh, certainly common interests
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and, and very like-minded. So I'm, I'm looking forward to the afternoon of networking and, uh,
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you know, staying in close, close contact with some people. And, uh, yeah, one side note,
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I've, I've spoken with a couple, uh, they just recently had their election and, uh, spoke with
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a couple new MLAs who, who were completely brand new, which, uh, was, was exactly where I was just,
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uh, just over two years ago. So, um, we, we, we certainly have a lot of, uh, common, common ground
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and common interest to go over. Great. Well, it sounds like a really positive gathering and I,
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I know you've got a hard out, you got to get back to it there. So, uh, is there anything else you'd
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like to add before I let you get back to work there? Um, well, I think, you know,
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I guess going back to the shutting down conversations, I think, you know, we're, we're,
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we're in a place in society now where I think it's, it's more important than ever to have dialogue.
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And, and regardless if you agree or disagree, my hope is that, you know, people, people can find,
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you know, some common ground, or if you don't leave, leave, like you felt like you, uh,
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you were part of a conversation and, and I would encourage those who, who may, may push back on,
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on what we're doing specifically in Calgary Lougheed with our town hall. Um, you know,
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give it a listen, give it a try. You know, if, if you don't, if it's not for you, that's,
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that's fine too. But, uh, you know, I look at, I come from, uh, my background previous was in the
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small business sector and I, I w I would never dream of alienating customers. And, uh, you know,
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I think so, so important now to, to, to open the doors to anyone, to have dialogue.
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Great. Well, I appreciate you stepping up to, to, to hold that event there. And, uh, I I'm
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looking forward to it. I'm, it'll sure, sure be interesting if nothing else. So, uh, thank you
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again for, for giving us some of your time today, uh, Mr. Bouchard. And, uh, we'll, we'll talk again soon.
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Always a pleasure. Thanks very much for having me on, Corey.
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So we'll bring in, uh, Daryl, uh, Comick as well, uh, to, to kind of expand on it. He works
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down in Calgary fish Creek. Some people might know him. He's been very active in, in organizing
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and putting things together. And I imagine he's, he's pretty immersed in this event. Cause I know
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Eric had to, to run fairly quickly and I wanted to discuss this a little further. So, uh, maybe
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Daryl can expand a little bit on, uh, uh, what sort of a space we got left Daryl and, and how people
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Uh, thank you, Corey. I mean, participating in the courage to listen, I mean, the idea was to
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build a, a framework for a sovereign Alberta within the United Canada. And so in order to do that,
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we wanted to have speakers across the entire spectrum, uh, with multiple perspectives. I mean,
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we, uh, we see the very, um, organized efforts to, uh, speak to independence, which has been really
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well done. And, and now we're seeing a lot of pushback, uh, from a group called Reboot, uh,
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to try to shut down, uh, gatherings of people anywhere, uh, and limit free speech. So it's
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important, I think to, uh, say, Hey, you know, let's come and have the conversation as Eric says,
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and in Lahi, we have a saying, it says that, uh, let's, let's win people over one conversation at a
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time. Let's not prejudge where people come from. Uh, and let's try to, uh, be gentle and, and
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listen to what people say. So this time, uh, we went with something that said the courage to listen.
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It's a name that really, uh, speaks to our approach, which is to, uh, be open, have active dialogue.
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And the courage to listen is really going to have some amazing speakers. I mean, yes, uh,
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you're going to see people like Jeff Wrath, uh, Mitch Sylvester. Uh, you'll see Chris Sims,
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Bruce Party, uh, they'll be there, but you'll also, uh, hear from, uh, Ben Trudeau. Now,
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Ben Trudeau has a very interesting story. He was actually one of the people in the room
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when they wrote the original sovereignty question in Quebec, but he, he sees, um, sovereignty in
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Alberta very differently. Uh, certainly he has a framework for a sovereign Alberta within the United
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Canada and talks about how people can actually, how Albertans could actually, uh, benefit inside of
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Canada, uh, if they actually, um, worked within the parameters as opposed to simply being a shill for
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the federal government. Yeah. Well, there's a few perspectives. I think the regional alienation,
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the frustration, that's something common among, I'm sure a large majority of Albertans, but
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Albertans are still divided on how to address that, how to deal with it. And I mean, the definition of
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sovereignty itself, uh, depending on who you ask could mean different things. So this event kind
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of offers people to give a few different views on that. Well, you have to ask yourself, you know,
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do you feel that Alberta is treated fairly by Ottawa? That's the first question. If, if you say yes,
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then you, you have a predisposed idea on how, how good we have it in Alberta and how, how much Canada
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gives back to Alberta. Uh, if you say, well, maybe, uh, maybe I'm thinking back to the equalization
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referendum that we've already had where 62% of Albertans says, no, we want to see, uh, the
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changed equalization. That is an incredibly complicated process because that requires a
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constitutional change. We've seen Meach Lake. We've seen so many other issues where you can't
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change the constitution in Canada because the people receiving the money that comes from excess
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money that Alberta, uh, generates and sends to Ottawa, they don't want to give it up. So in order to
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come up with, uh, some solutions here, uh, we need to have the active conversation. I mean,
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Peter Lougheed, uh, did it in 79 through 81. And that of course, uh, related to, um, Alberta wanting
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to see, receive world price for oil. So interestingly enough, it was about oil at the time, uh, at the
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time, uh, the federal government said, no, you need to subsidize the rest of Canada with your,
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the price of your oil that changed. Uh, but that took a lot of pressure that took a lot of people
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saying, no, this is not a fair deal. I remember back to 1931, that's when Alberta actually got
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the rights to, uh, the resources here in, in our province. So the deal has always been a little,
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uh, inequitable. And if, when you read Jeff Rath's, uh, uh, package that called the value of freedom,
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you'll see that basically Alberta is $50 billion contributes an extra $50 billion. And then from that,
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we get a small portion back. So, uh, uh, there's going to be multiple frameworks to debate with
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people, uh, and for them to listen about different perspectives. So I encourage you to have a ticket,
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get a ticket, you can watch it, you can either stream it, uh, or you can come in person to the
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town hall. Uh, we have a number of different varieties of it or options available for people.
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And so if you go to our website, that courage to listen.ca, uh, you can see and get all the
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tickets there. Yeah. So your venue is solid. I mean, you, you, you pointed out that, that those
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clowns of reboot are trying to shut things down. I know there was an APP event that they managed to
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intimidate a host from backing down and closing the venue. I mean, when I look at something where
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there's two sides to it and I see one side doesn't want to allow others to debate, I almost automatically
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assume that the anti-speech people are wrong. Uh, I, I appreciate you guys, you know, you're not
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letting them push you around. I mean, I was at an event last weekend and red deer, a large one.
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And, uh, there was the, one of the high points of it was a debate between, uh, was it night leg and,
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and, uh, Keith Wilson, right. Both on, uh, you know, with different views on independence. And I tell
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you, you know, leg was in the majority in there, but the room was absolutely polite and welcoming to that
00:26:25.720
different point of view being up there. There there's quite a different attitude. I think
00:26:29.480
among the conservative folks who want to welcome discourse and some different ideas. And then the,
00:26:33.960
the clowns like reboot, who just want to shut down all possible different points of view.
00:26:38.840
We've had experience of course, with this group before when we did, uh, our kids event called,
00:26:43.880
uh, let kids be kids. That was an event that talked about child pornography and libraries.
00:26:48.840
Uh, they tried to shut us down at the venue. They caused a lot of problems for the venue, uh, cost them
00:26:54.280
a lot of money because they took a perspective to try to damage small business. So this,
00:26:59.240
this is the challenge that we're seeing out there right now is that these groups,
00:27:04.040
uh, want to shut you down from speaking. Now they're keyboard warriors. They're happy to
00:27:09.000
do all sorts of intimidating things online. Uh, but when it actually comes to talking and debating the
00:27:14.440
points, they don't have any points to debate that that's what they tell me. Like you said there,
00:27:18.680
I mean, as soon as they try to shut you down from the beginning, you know, they don't have much to say
00:27:23.400
that is constructive. So we're going to have a calm conversation, a dialogue, so to speak. Uh,
00:27:29.240
we're not looking to, uh, to raise any Barnes or anything like that. This is going to be a long
00:27:35.000
process of education for Albertans. They need to know that. And by having multiple, uh, views,
00:27:40.600
I think Albertans are smart enough that they're going to pick the path. They're going to understand,
00:27:44.360
uh, what is best for Albertans, uh, in the long run. And how we define sovereignty is really
00:27:50.200
irrelevant right now. I mean, this is stage one of a seven stage process that would literally occur.
00:27:55.480
So should there be, uh, the activation of the citizens initiative act, then there'll be a
00:28:01.080
referendum. There'll be more education. Then there'll be a vote. I mean, this is a long time
00:28:05.480
coming. So people are going to have to have the opportunity to listen. And I mean, we saw it,
00:28:09.720
we got one of our speakers got shut down, uh, last week because, uh, groups felt that we shouldn't
00:28:16.200
have a federalist speaking. The federalists themselves didn't think that the federalists
00:28:20.120
person should be speaking, uh, about why it was valuable for Albert to be in Canada. So
00:28:24.760
that confusion, it's a way that, um, the, the quiet, not even the quiet, the very minor, uh,
00:28:32.200
opposition, uh, tries to intimidate what looks like a very large movement to want to listen and want to
00:28:39.160
understand. Yeah. It's frustrating. And, and you know, I find it insulting because it's their way of
00:28:45.000
telling Albertans, we don't trust you to make up your own mind. We don't trust you to listen to
00:28:49.880
different voices. So we want to take away the ability for you to even hear those. So you don't
00:28:54.840
make a decision that we don't agree with. It's really a vile attitude. Well, it's intellectual
00:28:59.800
warfare. And I think, uh, one of the challenges we have with Canadians is sometimes we're
00:29:03.720
intellectually lazy. We don't seek out more information. We just want what's spoon fed.
00:29:08.440
It's easy. Uh, but understanding deep, complex issues or maybe even simple issues just requires a
00:29:14.440
certain amount of critical thinking. And these days we're not seeing a lot of critical thinking.
00:29:18.520
We're not seeing a lot of people think about, I mean, I'm even looking at something new,
00:29:22.120
Bill C-5. If you read the fine print of that, um, build the nation plan, it says that the federal
00:29:28.440
government can take away any and all rights of individuals and laws at its whim in perpetuity.
00:29:33.320
So that's a very concerning thing. It reminds me a lot of the history. And if we look back at history,
00:29:39.160
we see that it repeats itself. So are we at the same point as we were in 1979, 81? I don't know.
00:29:45.480
Uh, but what I do know is that people should have the willingness to want to listen,
00:29:49.080
uh, to come out, uh, and just to show a little courage, show a little spine
00:29:53.640
so you can speak intelligently about these topics.
00:29:55.960
Absolutely. Well, well, thank you again. I know you never shy away from any, uh,
00:30:00.440
debates there, Daryl. Uh, you welcome it on many fronts and venues. So I appreciate that. And I
00:30:05.160
appreciate you coming on today. Uh, maybe just before I let you go one more time, where can people find
00:30:09.000
information on this for the stream or to take part? Uh, it's very simple, uh, thecouragetolisten.ca.
00:30:15.080
You can get the tickets there, or you can go to our other website, ucpcalgarylawheat.ca.
00:30:20.120
We have a lot of information that's posted there. It gives the overview of the speakers. Uh, and in
00:30:24.600
fact, I think we just posted momentarily, uh, go, uh, the first of several papers that we will post for
00:30:30.760
people to get information. Uh, this one, the value of freedom, uh, and we'll have others about building a
00:30:35.720
framework. Excellent. Thanks again, Daryl. Great to talk to you. And, uh, maybe I'll see you there.
00:30:40.280
Thank you, Corey. Right on. So yeah, check that out guys. The courage to listen. Like I said,
00:30:45.080
I love that title because again, it's not even taken aside. It's just saying, and it's sad that
00:30:48.600
you have to show courage to have an event where people can listen, but that's what we're at now.
00:30:53.160
That's what is going on when they're trying to shut down the venues, trying to shut down the
00:30:56.920
discourse. And they did it before. And people said it was hyperbolic when they were talking about,
00:31:00.920
yeah, the child porn in libraries. We saw it coming up recently from the government.
00:31:04.520
There were in children's school libraries books with, with men having oral sex with each other.
00:31:11.800
It's bizarre that anybody in their right mind can think these things are, are acceptable,
00:31:18.040
but you know, if we don't expose them, we can't fix them. And I, I really get frustrated with, uh,
00:31:24.520
you know, one side that always is trying to shut down or shut the speech down on another one. That's
00:31:29.320
when my back gets up and it, it just seems to be, I understand there's people on the fringe
00:31:34.440
of the right. Absolutely. They exist, but they don't seem to take the tact of trying to shut
00:31:39.080
down discourse of their opponents. They, they do their other things, but the far left, I mean,
00:31:42.600
I've seen that at universities where they're standing outside in the hallway with bullhorns
00:31:46.200
and banging on drums and banging on doors and kicking windows because they don't like a speaker
00:31:51.160
who's come to the university. This is wrong. This is wrong. You know, I, I wish the left would kind of
00:31:56.520
have just a little bit of looking at themselves and where they came from. Look back to the sixties,
00:32:02.600
look back to Berkeley, you know, which now is just a hotbed of vile extremism, but that used to be the
00:32:08.680
place where it was the other way around. It was the old conservatives who were trying to shut down.
00:32:13.320
They were knocking down protests, the anti-war protests. They were trying to shut down speech.
00:32:17.880
You, you, you had McCarthyism wasn't that long prior to that. And these were left wing,
00:32:23.880
but they were freedom minded people at these universities. They were fighting for the right
00:32:27.880
to express, to debate, to protest. And now they've morphed into this authoritarian animal
00:32:34.440
that doesn't feel people have the right to get together and discuss issues, even if they're
00:32:38.840
sensitive, even if not everybody agrees with them. So always err on the side of freedom, folks, always.
00:32:47.960
Err on the side of free speech. It means you might have to hear things you don't like. You got to hear
00:32:52.280
from people you don't disagree with. It might make a movement go forward a little bit that you don't
00:32:57.080
think is going to be good for you or your country. Debate it then or counter organize, run a different
00:33:04.600
group, hold a different meeting, but don't try to shut down speech. That's always wrong. Always.
00:33:12.760
So I'm really thrilled that Daryl and Eric are, you know, staying steadfast and pushing this along
00:33:19.400
because these kinds of things are very, very important. It doesn't matter what side of it
00:33:22.280
you're on. Having these open discourses, this sort of thing, cutting through the BS, the rabble
00:33:28.520
is essential. I mean, look at social media today where we are exposed to so much misinformation,
00:33:33.800
so much spun stuff. And it comes from the left. It comes from the right. Can you, there's no beating,
00:33:39.320
getting people into the same room together and exchanging ideas, discussing and debating because
00:33:45.560
there's no internet filter. There's no AI. There's nothing else in between you and that person.
00:33:49.880
That's an actual interaction. That's the way good things come about. So I thank them for that. All
00:33:55.960
right, let's get through some of the comments. I guess I'll, I'll kind of dial back because it went
00:33:59.160
back a ways with Cyril Arnold saying, we're back to the Iran issue going on with Israel. I think Iran has
00:34:06.120
deals with Russia. They want to have a problem recovering their nuclear program. Okay. Yeah. Russia's
00:34:10.120
been kind of backing Iran, but you know, that's one of the things I was thinking on.
00:34:13.720
If Russia wanted Iran to have a nuke, Russia has plenty of them left over from the Cold War.
00:34:17.480
They could just drop one by through Uber Eats or whatever way they would get one there. I think
00:34:22.600
Russia likes using Iran as a disruptor in the Middle East, and they're certainly a source of oil,
00:34:26.920
but that's what I was talking about is of all the places to be a nuclear power, most people would be
00:34:31.160
worried about Iran because even Russia doesn't want to see a nuke actually used. And Iran is one of
00:34:36.120
the countries that if they got one, there's a really good chance they would actually use it. And,
00:34:41.160
you know, 90% of the world, China, Russia, even, and so on, they don't want to see that.
00:34:45.880
They want to see many nasty things, but they don't want to see a nuclear war, but who knows?
00:34:49.880
But I don't know if Russia's that eager to keep Iran nuclear able. They just like to keep Iran there
00:34:57.160
KJF saying what a pipeline to Skagway being an option. So Skagway is kind of up in Alaska. That
00:35:03.880
was the big jump off point for the Klondike rush. You'd have to cross BC and then into the States for
00:35:09.640
that. I don't know. I think, you know, expanding capability to Prince Rupert would probably be more
00:35:14.360
likely to get in the short term, but we've got to look at all options there. I see Debbie checking in
00:35:19.160
from Tabor. Good to see you. Jacqueline Littler saying no sovereignty inside Canada, straight
00:35:26.200
independence. And yeah, that's what we're talking about. You know, that there's different definitions.
00:35:30.440
You find five Albertans and I think four out of five are upset with the status quo,
00:35:35.240
but three out of four are going to have different definitions on what independence is if they're trying
00:35:41.400
to pursue it. So, you know, we got to iron a lot of that out. We got to hammer it out.
00:35:46.840
And some people have talked about a lot too is, well, what's the costing? It sounds like
00:35:51.160
Jeff Rath has something coming out pretty soon to address a bunch of that. Jeff's a colorful
00:35:55.800
character. He's, you know, quite the person who's been on the front with the Alberta Prosperity
00:35:59.960
Project, but he's dedicated to it and he can put out some reasonable stuff. So it'd be interesting to
00:36:04.280
see those documents coming out. There it is. Okay. Searle is saying, yeah, the Alberta Prosperity Project
00:36:11.320
just emailed their fiscal plan to everyone who signed up on their emailing list and he's reading it right now.
00:36:16.440
So, uh, you know, we'll keep breaking it down. There's a lot to do. I was just reading,
00:36:22.040
uh, Israel Avant sent it to me, actually an executive summary. I'm still working my way through it.
00:36:26.920
Quebec did a massive amount of this kind of work back in the nineties and it's gotten forgotten.
00:36:31.160
They got a lot of, uh, experts, professors, people from all over and addressed loads of the questions
00:36:38.600
on what independence would look like and what they're working towards. And sovereignty was one of
00:36:42.440
their prime terms for it. And we, that, that, you know, the executive summary, I think is a hundred
00:36:47.320
and some pages. And then the stuff itself is just volumes and volumes. The only thing in English so
00:36:51.080
far is just the executive summary, but even there, there's a lot and we don't need to reinvent a lot of
00:36:55.400
these wheels. We need to be looking back at some of the stuff that Quebec's already done. And sure,
00:36:59.560
you've got to adjust some things for a Western perspective, but a lot of it can be applied here,
00:37:04.200
but we got a lot of work to do in a relatively short time. Um, it's looking most likely we're
00:37:12.040
going to have a referendum on this in, uh, early 2026, maybe mid 2026. So that is not too long.
00:37:19.960
I mean, some people say, Oh, that's a year. That's a long time. Well, for the amount of stuff
00:37:23.400
that has to be done, and I'm not just talking about the logistics, though, that's a big part too.
00:37:28.680
Uh, just getting the petitioning, you know, again, the bar has been lowered. People are acting as if,
00:37:34.360
uh, it would be easy to trigger, uh, a referendum. No, it wouldn't be that easy. People who haven't
00:37:40.600
done a real official petition don't understand just how tough it is. Uh, I should have almost
00:37:45.800
kept Daryl on to speak to it. He knows about it. He took part, I believe in help with the, uh,
00:37:49.240
recall Gondek thing, or at least he was watching it closely and they got, I believe close to 70,000
00:37:54.120
signatures. It was, it was quite a feat, but a well short of the ridiculous bar that used to be set
00:37:59.480
there. And that took hundreds and hundreds of people putting in countless hours to get that.
00:38:04.440
But it also shows 177,000 across the province with four months and with the attitudes now,
00:38:09.080
absolutely that will get done. So now that that bar is achievable though, making that tipping
00:38:15.720
point for those who want independence, those who vote to make their mind up and put that X there.
00:38:21.720
And that's a big decision for a lot of people. It really is. There's a lot of people on the fence
00:38:25.880
on that. There's a lot of people not necessarily convinced. There's a lot of question marks and
00:38:30.440
those need to keep getting filled. The economic ones, the post-independence ones, or just addressing
00:38:36.440
people's concerns as, as we get up to it, it's going to be a lot of work. There's a solid 30,
00:38:42.280
some say 40% support for it. I don't know, but we're going to get well over 50. If you're really
00:38:47.640
looking for a positive independence vote and that, well, some of that's in the federal government's
00:38:53.400
ballpark. It depends on what Carney does in the next six months. Cause he can certainly raise the
00:38:57.640
support or you know what? I'll tell you what, he could deflate it. If he actually showed leadership,
00:39:03.960
actually showed that this is a federation. And that means one of the few areas where central
00:39:08.120
leadership will intervene is when they're saying this is intra-provincial infrastructure and we're
00:39:14.120
going to get it done. Shut up, Mr. Eby. Shut up, Mr. Legault. We're getting a pipeline across. Your
00:39:20.280
provinces will consult you or respect you, but you cannot stop it because the purpose of a federation
00:39:26.040
is to have that ability to get product unhindered back and forth on each side.
00:39:30.920
If he did something like that, I could see independent support flatlining. At least it
00:39:35.400
wouldn't grow further because that's one of the frustrations, but I don't think Carney's going to
00:39:38.680
do it. That's the thing. So, but a lot of that bowl, you know, is in his court right now. So we'll
00:39:46.040
see what happens with that. Uh, oh boy, you know, and then we got Mike here still talking about his
00:39:52.360
beekeeping. This is a different fella freedom, honey, and not a bad guy for some of his veteran
00:39:57.320
work, but he's claiming he's a better beekeeper, but I don't know. I've seen him bounce around with
00:40:01.080
those ugly plastic hives of his, and I wouldn't put much stock in it. This product's pretty good,
00:40:06.440
but I don't see any ribbons from local fairs on any of his honey yet. Uh, let's see what else we got
00:40:13.080
going on out there. Uh, so, so Ryan free Albert and say, we need to then decide the way out. Um,
00:40:20.920
why does anyone mention open market on cellular providers internet providers can save every
00:40:24.840
households a hundred a month. Yeah. Well, there's lots of things. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Canada's
00:40:27.640
got some of the most expensive cellular data and all that things in the world. So it's kind of a bit
00:40:32.920
of both. I know what you're saying. You see, one of the risks for the independent movement is
00:40:37.560
independence movement is going down the road of what about ism and you bounce around,
00:40:42.200
you're asking questions and you're asking and you're casting doubt and you're all over the map
00:40:46.200
and you're never actually getting done because you're spinning your wheels. The reality is we've
00:40:49.240
got to focus on getting people to mark yes on an independence vote. Everything else will have to
00:40:54.280
happen after that. Anyways, we could talk about a lot of things that will happen after that.
00:40:58.360
But first things first, the campaign has to be mostly focused on getting a person with
00:41:02.200
two things to choose from, and they will choose one and independence minded people want it to be yes.
00:41:07.400
But at the same time, to convince people to make that decision, you've got to have some depth
00:41:13.640
behind the movement. You've got to make people comfortable. So it's not written in stone what
00:41:18.680
will happen the day after a yes vote, but you've got to have a pretty good idea of what's going to
00:41:23.000
happen. There's got to be a vision. I talked about that in one of the videos on my personal channel
00:41:27.960
a little while back, but it was an Ayn Rand quote. But she talked about how you, you know,
00:41:32.360
I'm just paraphrasing, but basically no movement has ever been successful just breaking away from
00:41:37.640
something. You have to move towards something. You have to build something. So we've also got,
00:41:43.800
we know what we want to get away from. That's pretty clear. But we also have to tell people
00:41:48.520
what we're moving towards. And, uh, that's being filled out, but it's going to take some time. And
00:41:54.120
then it's going to take a lot of time to get that out to the other people. Uh, J.R. Michael,
00:41:58.840
ensure to keep the separatist parties in the background. We can utilize the existing government
00:42:02.760
in place and decide afterwards. Yeah. That's where there's been another big discussion.
00:42:07.480
We'll see. I'm watching the by-elections closely. I'm not big on the party approach to it. I've been
00:42:13.000
there. I've run twice actually under independence banners a long time ago, and it doesn't get
00:42:17.960
anywhere. You smack your face against the wall and we don't get any closer to independence through that.
00:42:22.840
It has to be referendum focused. And I know some people are saying no harm,
00:42:26.360
no foul. The parties aren't hurting anything. Well, aren't they? The thing is that we only have so
00:42:32.360
much intellectual energy. We only have so many resources with thinking on subjects, discussing
00:42:38.520
subjects, promoting subjects, raising money for them, campaigning for them. And independence
00:42:44.200
parties are gobbling into that a bit, yet not really moving us anywhere closer to the finish line
00:42:48.360
because they don't get anywhere when they run in the elections. So we're losing resources that really
00:42:53.960
could be better dedicated to working towards that yes vote if that's really where you want to go.
00:42:57.800
Not to say everybody in the independence parties are bad or anything, but they're just not doing it.
00:43:01.160
It's not working. We'll see what the Olds did, Three Hills. I mean, that's the most
00:43:05.320
fertile area for an independence party to possibly do well. Unfortunately, the dominant one is the
00:43:11.480
Republican Party, which frankly is weird and sprung out of nowhere, seems to have some funding that
00:43:16.920
nobody can quite pin down where it came from, runs signs that look like they're liberal, divides the
00:43:21.400
movement by attaching itself to an American movement, and I just don't think is doing the
00:43:26.040
independence movement a bloody bit of good. But that's up to the voters in Old Stidsbury,
00:43:30.360
Three Hills to see what they say about it. But the irony is no matter how they do,
00:43:33.480
it's going to hurt the independence movement because if they do well, they're still establishing
00:43:36.360
themselves as a voice for it. And if they do poorly, people will say, well, look at that.
00:43:39.480
They couldn't even do well in Old Stidsbury, Three Hills, but it's their right to run by all means.
00:43:44.760
And again, that decision is up to the citizens of Old Stidsbury, Three Hills and nobody else.
00:43:50.840
J.R. Michael saying, Danielle has given us the path for a reason. She can't come out and say she
00:43:53.880
supports it, but she can give us a path. It says a lot. I completely agree. Look,
00:43:58.520
and I know some people have been saying Smith has to come out and fully support this. Well,
00:44:02.200
she wasn't elected on that mandate. That wasn't what she campaigned on. We have never been given
00:44:08.120
more tools for independence than what has been handed to us. Could you imagine another premier,
00:44:14.280
actually, could you imagine Jason Kenney allowing somebody like Eric Bouchard to even hold a town
00:44:20.120
hall like that? I don't think so. Premier Smith is giving leeway to her elected representatives to be
00:44:25.880
able to go out and ask those questions and have those discussions with constituents. We're getting
00:44:29.880
as much from the premier as we should get and we can get at this time. Now, her role is to govern.
00:44:36.520
And I tell you what, she's got a whole lot of things she needs to do better in my view.
00:44:40.360
And I, you know, I talk about that on here, but whether she should jump in
00:44:44.920
and take a full independence stance, no, I don't think she should be pressured towards that. I don't
00:44:49.880
think she's considering doing that. And I just don't think that that's part of her role or job.
00:44:54.520
She just was not elected with that mandate to begin with. But time will tell. Boy, are we in
00:45:00.520
interested times, guys, and optimistic. I really do think they're good times. We're moving towards
00:45:07.400
change in a way we've never seen before. We got an opportunity like we've never seen.
00:45:10.920
We've got a lot of craziness going around in the world, whether it's the Middle East or our G7.
00:45:14.440
I barely talked about that and other things, but we'll keep on it. Keep pushing guys, stay active,
00:45:19.880
stay listening, keep sending the feedback. We'll figure out the answers and we'll make it better.
00:45:24.760
So be sure to tune into the pipeline. Nigel's got a great interview coming tomorrow as well. Hi,
00:45:29.240
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00:45:33.560
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