In this episode of The Cory Morgan Show for mid-August, host Cory Morgan talks about the start of the political season, the upcoming election, and some of the crazy things going on around the country. Thanks to our sponsors Resistance Coffee and Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights.
00:00:00.000Hey, welcome to the Cory Morgan Show for mid-August. We're getting into the political
00:00:12.440season. People are finishing their vacationing and starting to pay a little attention to the
00:00:17.300political gong show that's happening around them. It's annoying to most people, but it gives me
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00:03:15.820So as I was saying earlier, we're getting into the goofy political season. The mayoral race, you know,
00:03:20.780it was just a great thing to see last weekend. A sea of red. The Liberals are out in full force and
00:03:26.000it's overlapped with our municipal candidates. So we saw Jody Gondek, a familiar name. She was on council,
00:03:33.420you know, out there at George Chahal's liberal campaign kickoff for member of parliament. So
00:03:39.700she wanted to make sure to try and snap up a piece of that liberal vote, but also out in the crowd,
00:03:44.500there was Jeff Davison with his BFF Ward Sutherland standing in that crowd of red shirts as well,
00:03:50.700trying to get a little nibble of that liberal vote base too. It's good to see their true colors
00:03:54.840actually coming out. Davison is definitely coming out of the left wing. You know, we can't afford more of
00:04:00.260this crap. We had enough of it with 10 years of Ninchy, but Nick Davison wants to give us more of
00:04:04.700it. Gondek, we expected it of. Davison kind of expected it of, but still, I didn't think he'd
00:04:10.600be so overt about it, but I guess glad for showing that. And of course, Nahed Ninchy was up there
00:04:14.840piping on and going on about how the Liberals are so important to Alberta and why we would be wise to
00:04:21.720support them. The Liberals on the other hand are not doing us any favors. At best, as they're pouring
00:04:27.220money into the Maritimes with Muskrat Falls project and they're pouring more money into
00:04:32.400Quebec for their daycare program, which Alberta has already basically been paying for for decades
00:04:37.020through equalization. They're saying we have to come to their terms to get any of those daycare
00:04:42.560dollars, even though we pay into it. We're saying we're not giving your money back to you until you
00:04:45.560do it the way we tell you to. So there's been a standoff there as well, rather than supporting our
00:04:51.360industry like Muskrat Falls, you know, in the East, they're saying we're putting together a
00:04:56.120transition thing. So all those oil workers that we're going to put out of work and their plan on
00:05:00.320it, they want to put them all out of work. You know, the world wants more of our product
00:05:03.920while demand for our ethically sourced petrochemical products is going to be going up for the next 20,
00:05:09.92030 years. Any environment economist can tell you that we're shutting hours in and they're saying
00:05:15.460they can transition us. We'll get to work building windmills and solar projects and that'll put
00:05:20.940everybody to work. It's a load of crap, but that's all what's coming up in this federal election.
00:05:25.120It's going to be an ugly one. It's going to be a regional one. And then we have the equalization
00:05:31.260referendum coming up during the municipal one. So you're going to get your fill of politics in
00:05:35.540this next three months and we're going to be covering it for you. I'll be ranting about it as
00:05:39.020usual. I'll be watching some of the other stuff too. I mean, you know, the groups are getting out
00:05:44.040there. The nurses are all out today. They're screaming because they want to make sure that they don't get
00:05:48.760their wages cut like the rest of Alberta had to do in this last, you know, eight years of economic
00:05:53.460downturn. Joe Vipon, the NDP doctor there, activist who's been holding his little protests,
00:05:59.720trying to get, trying to get this general strike going. He was saying he's going to bring the
00:06:03.860government to its knees. He's been day after day after day in downtown Calgary, 50, 60, maybe 120
00:06:09.180people at tops. And the last one I went to and some of the videos are out, just a total gong show.
00:06:14.120But something that was fun was watching the left eating their own because Black Lives Matter with
00:06:19.920Taylor something or other. I don't even remember her name. She's one of their main representatives
00:06:24.580and she's the one who's been standing downtown every day screaming to have the police disbanded,
00:06:29.840not just defunded. They want them gone. Well, Joe Vipon gave her the mic, said, you know,
00:06:34.960you go on and she gave an expletive laden rant at his crowd out there. And since then,
00:06:40.040she's now said that Dr. Joe Vipon is a white supremacist because you can just never be woke
00:06:46.820enough to stay in the good books of the truly extreme left-wing activists. And I tell you what,
00:06:54.120Black Lives Matter are extremists. Let's not beat around the bush with them. Let's quit playing the
00:06:59.100kid gloves with that group. These guys are way out in the fringe. And that display of, you know,
00:07:03.940their own divisiveness was fantastic, but that's fine. Maybe they'll just fall apart on their own.
00:07:07.900We got more important things to deal with. Now I'll move right on into, though, I went out,
00:07:11.780something new for us. I did a field interview. I went to Eddie Maurice's place. And for those
00:07:17.980who don't remember Eddie Maurice, he was charged back in 2018. There were intruders came onto his
00:07:23.740properties in a rural property, South Calgary. He had his baby in the house. He came out, confronted
00:07:29.460them. In the altercation, there was a ricochet. The intruder got injured and Eddie got charged. He was
00:07:35.340arrested. It took months and months in and out of court, all sorts of stress, all sorts of misery
00:07:40.540before the charges were finally all dropped. We've seen that recent case in Red Deer where they at
00:07:44.400least didn't even charge the homeowner. It was a refreshing change. And it was really worth going
00:07:49.120back to Eddie now that it's all done, because he couldn't really talk for all that time about exactly
00:07:53.480what happened at his place. Because when you're in front of the courts, your lawyers tell you,
00:07:57.020don't say anything. And there was a lot of armchair quarterbacks who came up with a lot of BS and
00:08:01.820saying, well, he should have done this. He should have done that. Well, I was on his porch with him.
00:08:06.500We got the footage of that. We showed how close those intruders actually got to his place,
00:08:11.300how limited his options were, how isolated his home was, and just chatted about the issue of
00:08:16.560self-defense, rural crime, and firearm rights in general. It was a really good talk. Have a listen
00:08:23.560to it. Have a view. See what Eddie's up to these days. And I'll see you at the end of the show.
00:08:30.560Okay, Eddie. Well, good to see you again. And thanks for joining me. It's been a few years now,
00:08:36.340but I'm sure the memories are still pretty fresh for you. Last time we talked was just audio on a
00:08:41.420podcast. And you know, it's hard to explain. And with the issues being hot again, again, we've got
00:08:47.120real crime going on. We've got a person who got injured by an intruder. Before we talk on it,
00:08:52.360though, I'd like to, you know, we got the opportunity with the camera and so on to give
00:08:54.880a background on what happened to you that night that led to the nightmare of a year through the
00:09:00.540justice system there. Yeah, so I guess it was 2018 February that it was about 5, 5.30 in the morning.
00:09:09.140I got woken up, came out right by the front door here that I noticed that there was lights on
00:09:17.460vehicles out front. And I retrieved the firearm, opened the front door up. I yelled at the criminals
00:09:28.740that were on the property at the time, and they had no interest in leaving. They continued on with
00:09:34.000what they were doing. So fired, warning shot off at them and that to scare them off, to get them off
00:09:42.300the property because I was home alone at the time with my youngest daughter, who was only 11 months
00:09:47.720old, still in the crib, everything else. And they just, they took off. They ran off after that. And
00:09:57.060then two hours later, that's when the RCMP showed up on my property to arrest me and then take me in.
00:10:05.640And you'd already called them, right? Like you'd called after this happened. It's just it wasn't until
00:10:10.680the other killer that they suddenly rushed. That's right. So I called, you know, saying there's criminals
00:10:16.220here, they're robbing me, I need some help. And then when he called 911 for an ambulance, whenever they took
00:10:24.060off to another place, that's when, yeah, they linked it, came out, then. Yeah, so I just, and since I'm here, I just
00:10:33.540wanted to clarify, because we always had a lot of internet armchair quarterbacks. You weren't able
00:10:36.900to speak to any of this, of course, while it was going through the courts, because, you know, you
00:10:39.960can't talk to those things when, before it all happens. Now it's passed. You can kind of explain,
00:10:43.800like, one of the common questions was, why didn't you shoot shots in the air rather than warning shots
00:10:48.400into the ground? And as you can see here. As clear as day, yeah, I'd be shooting into my roof on the porch.
00:10:55.600And I mean, you do have neighbors, they're a ways away, but you'd be irresponsible to be firing a firearm
00:11:00.360outwards as well. I mean, you don't worry. Absolutely. So the safest direction was into the ground.
00:11:06.960And with a gravel drive, it led to a ricochet. Exactly. And it would be the accident. And it would be if they would have
00:11:15.400just taken off when I started yelling at them, and there would be no need for any of it. Yeah, and then, as the courts
00:11:21.740and police and everything, I mean, your intent wasn't to come out and shoot people. I mean, if it was, and so something to
00:11:26.360point out is the range, like, this guy was right here. Yeah, he was literally 10-15 feet right away
00:11:33.000in, at the vehicles. It's not a matter of across the yard, far away. There's a lot of people saying,
00:11:41.440well, you can't chase people in that. It's, no, this was the front door of the house. Yeah, so just for
00:11:47.800people viewing and people listening, I mean, think of how intimidating that is. You're on your front steps.
00:11:51.460It's five in the morning. Your child's in the house. These people who you don't know, who aren't
00:11:56.160going away, are this close in front of you. You're going to be frightened. You're going
00:12:01.500to be tense. Either way, I mean, we'll just close off on how you did end up finally at
00:12:07.120least getting, you know, the charges dropped and such with you. Yeah, so then it was about
00:12:12.100six months and then finally crowned, they found no chance of conviction. They dropped the charges.
00:12:20.020Everything was done and let go. And then kind of the, everything kind of just ended after that.
00:12:29.520Yeah, until the civil case, which came along.
00:12:32.720And a year later, then the civil case where he tried to sue me again for the injuries that
00:12:37.740occurred on the property. And then there was another court ordeal after that.
00:12:43.540Yeah, and just to clarify, so that got dropped. They backed off. They realized, again, this is
00:12:46.960ridiculous. People are getting pissed off. He's not going to win this. And that came to an end.
00:12:51.680There was some legislation brought through because people got confused with that. They were saying,
00:12:54.880oh, wasn't there new legislation with the recent one happening where people are allowed to
00:12:57.580use a fire alarm? But that's not the case. The legislation just meant they can't sue you if they
00:13:01.160were trying to rob you and they got hurt, right? Exactly. Yeah. So the legislation that the
00:13:05.540government brought into place was that if there's a criminal that has been criminally charged,
00:13:12.280cannot sue the landowner for any injuries that occurred on the property. So it's the same thing
00:13:19.360if they break your window, cut themselves. Before, I guess they could have sued you. Now they can't.
00:13:26.820Yeah, well, and as ridiculous as that sounds, we've heard of so many stupid lawsuits out there as if
00:13:31.380you can't victimize a homeowner enough times that there's another way to do it. So getting to more
00:13:36.480current things, and that's part of why I wanted to talk to you. I mean, somebody went through
00:13:38.720something pretty similar in a sense of a home invasion. It was in Red Deer. You know, people
00:13:44.280have probably seen that in the news recently. The man came home with his daughter from camping.
00:13:47.520There was a gentleman passed out in his house. They're sleeping in there who grabbed a baseball bat
00:13:51.840and then attacked him. In the struggle, the homeowner was injured. His thumb was crushed.
00:13:57.520He got hit in the ear, I guess. He might be deaf over time. We'll see. I mean, this is very violent.
00:14:02.340And he did manage to get a hold of a shotgun and shot the intruder, and the intruder died.
00:14:06.020Something that was different, though, was the police, after a few days investigating,
00:14:09.560decided not to charge him. Do you think in the case of, like, your past precedent and possibly even
00:14:16.100the Stanley precedent, that the police are finally getting to a place where they're
00:14:19.040recognizing a homeowner's right to defend themselves? I do. I absolutely believe that.
00:14:23.860It's, you know, one of the biggest issues that came out of my case is I was charged,
00:14:29.280before forensics was even on the property, to even do a proper investigation. One of the things that I
00:14:35.020was actually really surprised with was the RCMP actually did their due diligence properly and
00:14:40.560didn't charge the homeowner right away under the assumption that he just did it. They did the full
00:14:46.200investigation to actually bring out the evidence to see what is really happening and then make
00:14:52.420a judgment call on that. Whereas in your case, they arrested and secured you before even really
00:14:58.140investigating or doing anything. They presumed you were dangerous, guilty of something and took you in.
00:15:04.020Absolutely 100% on, in my circumstances, I was arrested, taken into Okadok's jail, charged, before even forensics was even on the property.
00:15:18.320So this has led to a lot of questions. I wrote a piece on it at a different publication recently, but
00:15:23.280in that, I mean, it's good to see the police are recognizing perhaps it's not worth pursuing the charges.
00:15:28.120I mean, they do want to charge. That seems pretty clear. But they realize they just can't get a conviction
00:15:32.920through the court. But I think what we really need is some laws to clarify our right to defend ourselves
00:15:37.760and our property, I would think. Yeah, I think so. Like it is, it comes down to that case is, you know,
00:15:43.080if you're far, too far away, police aren't present, they can't get to you in a reasonable amount of
00:15:49.220time. What can a homeowner actually do to protect themselves and their family when someone is attacking
00:15:56.660them? Yeah. And again, that's part of why I wanted to come out and talk to you. Like it just helps maybe,
00:16:00.640you know, we've got a lot of urban listening and viewers who just don't necessarily understand.
00:16:05.480It's different when you have a neighbor 10 feet on either side of you. It's different when you know
00:16:09.820the police are going to be there within five or 10 minutes. We're in the MD of Foothills where the
00:16:14.020average response, you know, I live in the MD as well, is 40 minutes. So, I mean, if you lock yourself
00:16:19.520in your house, you better really hope these guys don't want to come in.
00:16:21.600Well, and then it comes down to the same case is you have to make a mental decision is are you going
00:16:29.520to wait to sit there, be on the phone with the RCMP while someone's coming after you? Like, again,
00:16:35.740the guy in what happened up in Red Deer is a prime example. Is he supposed to just run around,
00:16:40.240try to talk on the phone, try to get the police to come? There's someone in there attacking him.
00:16:45.020He has to defend himself. There's nothing he can do.
00:16:48.260No, I mean, you've got seconds to act, not minutes. It's not, you see, pardon me, sir.
00:16:52.060No, hold off on the robbery. I gotta, I gotta get my phone and call the police. It's not a,
00:16:55.720not a reasonable one. Something that seems to be a common thread in a lot of these two,
00:17:00.420in the cases of a Ryan Watson, I think was the clown who was coming around here.
00:17:04.340Yeah. Um, I don't think they gave the name of the gentleman in Red Deer, but these are addicts.
00:17:07.900Uh, people with some, some, some serious problems that, I mean, people have to realize that you can't
00:17:13.000reason with somebody if they're wired up on, uh, meth or some of these other items as well.
00:17:17.840Like it does make for dangerous people. They aren't just harmless thieves.
00:17:20.680No, exactly. And again, at the time you, they're not announcing that they're on drugs or what
00:17:25.340they're doing, what their intent is or anything. Just like Ryan Watson, who is one of the criminals
00:17:32.420that was here, you know, he was two times probation violation already. So he's been previously charged.
00:17:39.220He's been through the system. He was charged six weeks later after being arrested from this
00:17:44.140incident too. So, and then it was the same case up in Red Deer. The guy is a repeat offender.
00:17:50.880It's well, and in Red Deer in that case, I don't know if you saw those details. So
00:17:53.960in the days prior, he'd broken into the house. Once the police picked him up, took him to the
00:17:59.800Howard Johnson, where he'd been living. Apparently he's living. Well, he was,
00:18:02.780he's not living anywhere now. Uh, then he came and broke in yet again. Like he had something
00:18:08.720wrong with him, obviously, but he came back to that same house. I guess he used to reside
00:18:11.720there as a renter or something in the past and he just felt drawn to it. But the second
00:18:15.860time he came, the landowner's children locked him out and he was beating on the door. He
00:18:20.620did property damage and the police picked him up and took him away again and put him in
00:18:23.840the hotel again. Didn't charge him. No charges. Like what does it take to get a charge or
00:18:27.440evidence that maybe this person needs to be secure? Well, and that's a big problem in
00:18:32.340the system is the catch and release where they're not actually holding someone who
00:18:37.000obviously has intent to come, to cause harm, to do damage that needs to be properly put
00:18:45.660somewhere, assessed and figure out what needs to be done with that person. Yeah. And it is
00:18:51.420a tough job. The police have a tough job. I mean, you don't want to lock up every addict
00:18:54.460as being a bit of a pain. Unfortunately, there are so many of them. We can't lock
00:18:57.420them all up. But these cases, these repeat ones, I mean, the woman who was with Ryan
00:19:00.580Watson, she had quite the checkered history. I mean, she was in two different police
00:19:04.200chases in her past. One where she smashed through an old TV set in Saskatchewan, I
00:19:07.760think, wasn't it? Yeah, it was the corner gas set. Kind of bizarre and we laugh about
00:19:13.420it, but I mean, this is a dangerous person. She's doing high-speed chases. And this is
00:19:17.140chronic. This is over and over again. And homeowners are expected to just sit and
00:19:21.100keep taking this abuse from these people. Well, and that's what they're saying is just
00:19:25.420lock your doors, stay in, call the police. But if someone's going to be coming through
00:19:30.120that front door, then you got no time. Like you said, the average response time in
00:19:35.040the MD is 40 minutes. What are you going to do for that 40 minutes while you're sitting
00:19:38.580and waiting? Yeah. And we had a lot of town hall meetings and there was a lot of
00:19:41.640activity. I mean, you know, the good side, I guess, that could come out is your case
00:19:44.540highlighted. I mean, you went through misery and hell and stress, but it did bring the
00:19:48.380issue to a head. And a lot of frustrated people, I was at those meetings, were asking police
00:19:52.640officers, what can I do? And the officers would say nothing every time. There's one guy said,
00:19:56.700can I shoot the truck with a paintball gun? He said, no, no, if you did that, that'd be
00:19:59.780pointing a firearm. He says, it's just a paintball gun. Yeah, well, if they think it's a firearm,
00:20:02.680then it's considered a firearm. You can't do anything that's ridiculous and it's not reasonable.
00:20:08.080No, exactly. And that's where, you know, we do have self-defense laws in Canada, but
00:20:13.380they're not, there's that very gray area of what you're allowed to do and not. And we need
00:20:20.340that more clarification and we got to give homeowners more rights that we're not trained
00:20:28.140police officers. We don't know how to handle a situation. We don't know what we're going to do
00:20:32.300in a situation when we're put in it. So you got to have that grace period of giving the homeowner
00:20:39.720the benefit of the doubt, high stressful situation. You know, someone like myself, it's, I was woken up
00:20:47.340and early in the morning, you're tired. You're not thinking proper. Things are happening. The case
00:20:53.000in Red Deer comes home, there's someone like you're, you're not planning for this to happen.
00:20:58.340Well, no, and you're not, you know, a big MMA fighter or anything like that either. I'm sure
00:21:02.320you can hold your own and everything, but I mean, it's not reasonable to expect somebody to,
00:21:05.040you know, physically grapple with, with intruders or, or use a minor form of defense. I mean,
00:21:10.240a firearm is what potentially can, can, uh, you know, equal the field, hopefully prevent something.
00:21:16.020Like I think, you know, in your case, it's questionable. We don't know what those people
00:21:19.500were going to do had you not confronted and stopped it with a firearm. I think we can say
00:21:23.180with some confidence in Red Deer, he would have very possibly been beaten to death had he not
00:21:28.200actually managed to get ahold of a firearm. So, I mean, just some of those people have a real
00:21:31.220problem with firearms. We forget to mention using one for defense is a legitimate use of a firearm
00:21:36.180and we have to drive that home. I think. Well, it is because the Red Deer case really
00:21:42.660spotlights that is you got a guy with a baseball bat that's coming after you. You got a kid in the
00:21:48.160house there too. What, what advantages do you have? What are you going to use to try to stop this guy?
00:21:57.220And then just some urban people don't understand that. I mean, you know, and I'm a rural person,
00:22:00.560we're not psychopaths. I mean, we don't want to go out and shoot every person who shows up selling
00:22:04.580girl guide cookies or a tourist asking for directions, but in an uncomfortable or dangerous
00:22:09.040situation like that, then yes, a firearm might be the appropriate means to respond.
00:22:13.480Well, exactly. It's your, no one is ever using it as an intent to use it, but it's a tool that we
00:22:22.200have that we can use. And yeah, and you can use it right to responsibly or wrong. I mean, had you
00:22:28.240or anybody else been shooting at them and they were driving away and down the driveway and they hadn't
00:22:32.860taken anything or threatened you? Well, you know, chances are you're going to be charged and not
00:22:35.820too many people have sympathy. I mean, it's a circumstance by circumstance sort of situation.
00:22:39.960Yeah, exactly. And that's where they now hopefully really look at the situations, look at what the
00:22:46.740homeowner is dealing with and really see through the homeowner's eyes of what they had to deal with