Western Standard - Cory Morgan Show - Gun Rights and the Rural Crime Crisis with Eddie Maurice

00:00:00.000 Hey, welcome to the Cory Morgan Show for mid-August. We're getting into the political

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00:03:15.820 So as I was saying earlier, we're getting into the goofy political season. The mayoral race, you know,

00:03:20.780 it was just a great thing to see last weekend. A sea of red. The Liberals are out in full force and

00:03:26.000 it's overlapped with our municipal candidates. So we saw Jody Gondek, a familiar name. She was on council,

00:03:33.420 you know, out there at George Chahal's liberal campaign kickoff for member of parliament. So

00:03:39.700 she wanted to make sure to try and snap up a piece of that liberal vote, but also out in the crowd,

00:03:44.500 there was Jeff Davison with his BFF Ward Sutherland standing in that crowd of red shirts as well,

00:03:50.700 trying to get a little nibble of that liberal vote base too. It's good to see their true colors

00:03:54.840 actually coming out. Davison is definitely coming out of the left wing. You know, we can't afford more of

00:04:00.260 this crap. We had enough of it with 10 years of Ninchy, but Nick Davison wants to give us more of 0.99

00:04:04.700 it. Gondek, we expected it of. Davison kind of expected it of, but still, I didn't think he'd

00:04:10.600 be so overt about it, but I guess glad for showing that. And of course, Nahed Ninchy was up there

00:04:14.840 piping on and going on about how the Liberals are so important to Alberta and why we would be wise to

00:04:21.720 support them. The Liberals on the other hand are not doing us any favors. At best, as they're pouring

00:04:27.220 money into the Maritimes with Muskrat Falls project and they're pouring more money into

00:04:32.400 Quebec for their daycare program, which Alberta has already basically been paying for for decades

00:04:37.020 through equalization. They're saying we have to come to their terms to get any of those daycare

00:04:42.560 dollars, even though we pay into it. We're saying we're not giving your money back to you until you

00:04:45.560 do it the way we tell you to. So there's been a standoff there as well, rather than supporting our

00:04:51.360 industry like Muskrat Falls, you know, in the East, they're saying we're putting together a

00:04:56.120 transition thing. So all those oil workers that we're going to put out of work and their plan on

00:05:00.320 it, they want to put them all out of work. You know, the world wants more of our product

00:05:03.920 while demand for our ethically sourced petrochemical products is going to be going up for the next 20,

00:05:09.920 30 years. Any environment economist can tell you that we're shutting hours in and they're saying

00:05:15.460 they can transition us. We'll get to work building windmills and solar projects and that'll put

00:05:20.940 everybody to work. It's a load of crap, but that's all what's coming up in this federal election. 0.84

00:05:25.120 It's going to be an ugly one. It's going to be a regional one. And then we have the equalization 0.99

00:05:31.260 referendum coming up during the municipal one. So you're going to get your fill of politics in

00:05:35.540 this next three months and we're going to be covering it for you. I'll be ranting about it as

00:05:39.020 usual. I'll be watching some of the other stuff too. I mean, you know, the groups are getting out

00:05:44.040 there. The nurses are all out today. They're screaming because they want to make sure that they don't get

00:05:48.760 their wages cut like the rest of Alberta had to do in this last, you know, eight years of economic

00:05:53.460 downturn. Joe Vipon, the NDP doctor there, activist who's been holding his little protests,

00:05:59.720 trying to get, trying to get this general strike going. He was saying he's going to bring the

00:06:03.860 government to its knees. He's been day after day after day in downtown Calgary, 50, 60, maybe 120

00:06:09.180 people at tops. And the last one I went to and some of the videos are out, just a total gong show.

00:06:14.120 But something that was fun was watching the left eating their own because Black Lives Matter with 0.97

00:06:19.920 Taylor something or other. I don't even remember her name. She's one of their main representatives

00:06:24.580 and she's the one who's been standing downtown every day screaming to have the police disbanded, 0.95

00:06:29.840 not just defunded. They want them gone. Well, Joe Vipon gave her the mic, said, you know,

00:06:34.960 you go on and she gave an expletive laden rant at his crowd out there. And since then,

00:06:40.040 she's now said that Dr. Joe Vipon is a white supremacist because you can just never be woke

00:06:46.820 enough to stay in the good books of the truly extreme left-wing activists. And I tell you what,

00:06:54.120 Black Lives Matter are extremists. Let's not beat around the bush with them. Let's quit playing the 1.00

00:06:59.100 kid gloves with that group. These guys are way out in the fringe. And that display of, you know,

00:07:03.940 their own divisiveness was fantastic, but that's fine. Maybe they'll just fall apart on their own.

00:07:07.900 We got more important things to deal with. Now I'll move right on into, though, I went out,

00:07:11.780 something new for us. I did a field interview. I went to Eddie Maurice's place. And for those

00:07:17.980 who don't remember Eddie Maurice, he was charged back in 2018. There were intruders came onto his

00:07:23.740 properties in a rural property, South Calgary. He had his baby in the house. He came out, confronted

00:07:29.460 them. In the altercation, there was a ricochet. The intruder got injured and Eddie got charged. He was

00:07:35.340 arrested. It took months and months in and out of court, all sorts of stress, all sorts of misery

00:07:40.540 before the charges were finally all dropped. We've seen that recent case in Red Deer where they at

00:07:44.400 least didn't even charge the homeowner. It was a refreshing change. And it was really worth going

00:07:49.120 back to Eddie now that it's all done, because he couldn't really talk for all that time about exactly

00:07:53.480 what happened at his place. Because when you're in front of the courts, your lawyers tell you,

00:07:57.020 don't say anything. And there was a lot of armchair quarterbacks who came up with a lot of BS and

00:08:01.820 saying, well, he should have done this. He should have done that. Well, I was on his porch with him.

00:08:06.500 We got the footage of that. We showed how close those intruders actually got to his place,

00:08:11.300 how limited his options were, how isolated his home was, and just chatted about the issue of

00:08:16.560 self-defense, rural crime, and firearm rights in general. It was a really good talk. Have a listen

00:08:23.560 to it. Have a view. See what Eddie's up to these days. And I'll see you at the end of the show.

00:08:30.560 Okay, Eddie. Well, good to see you again. And thanks for joining me. It's been a few years now,

00:08:36.340 but I'm sure the memories are still pretty fresh for you. Last time we talked was just audio on a

00:08:41.420 podcast. And you know, it's hard to explain. And with the issues being hot again, again, we've got

00:08:47.120 real crime going on. We've got a person who got injured by an intruder. Before we talk on it,

00:08:52.360 though, I'd like to, you know, we got the opportunity with the camera and so on to give

00:08:54.880 a background on what happened to you that night that led to the nightmare of a year through the

00:09:00.540 justice system there. Yeah, so I guess it was 2018 February that it was about 5, 5.30 in the morning.

00:09:09.140 I got woken up, came out right by the front door here that I noticed that there was lights on

00:09:17.460 vehicles out front. And I retrieved the firearm, opened the front door up. I yelled at the criminals

00:09:28.740 that were on the property at the time, and they had no interest in leaving. They continued on with

00:09:34.000 what they were doing. So fired, warning shot off at them and that to scare them off, to get them off

00:09:42.300 the property because I was home alone at the time with my youngest daughter, who was only 11 months

00:09:47.720 old, still in the crib, everything else. And they just, they took off. They ran off after that. And

00:09:57.060 then two hours later, that's when the RCMP showed up on my property to arrest me and then take me in.

00:10:05.640 And you'd already called them, right? Like you'd called after this happened. It's just it wasn't until

00:10:10.680 the other killer that they suddenly rushed. That's right. So I called, you know, saying there's criminals

00:10:16.220 here, they're robbing me, I need some help. And then when he called 911 for an ambulance, whenever they took

00:10:24.060 off to another place, that's when, yeah, they linked it, came out, then. Yeah, so I just, and since I'm here, I just

00:10:33.540 wanted to clarify, because we always had a lot of internet armchair quarterbacks. You weren't able

00:10:36.900 to speak to any of this, of course, while it was going through the courts, because, you know, you

00:10:39.960 can't talk to those things when, before it all happens. Now it's passed. You can kind of explain,

00:10:43.800 like, one of the common questions was, why didn't you shoot shots in the air rather than warning shots

00:10:48.400 into the ground? And as you can see here. As clear as day, yeah, I'd be shooting into my roof on the porch.

00:10:55.600 And I mean, you do have neighbors, they're a ways away, but you'd be irresponsible to be firing a firearm

00:11:00.360 outwards as well. I mean, you don't worry. Absolutely. So the safest direction was into the ground.

00:11:06.960 And with a gravel drive, it led to a ricochet. Exactly. And it would be the accident. And it would be if they would have

00:11:15.400 just taken off when I started yelling at them, and there would be no need for any of it. Yeah, and then, as the courts

00:11:21.740 and police and everything, I mean, your intent wasn't to come out and shoot people. I mean, if it was, and so something to

00:11:26.360 point out is the range, like, this guy was right here. Yeah, he was literally 10-15 feet right away

00:11:33.000 in, at the vehicles. It's not a matter of across the yard, far away. There's a lot of people saying,

00:11:41.440 well, you can't chase people in that. It's, no, this was the front door of the house. Yeah, so just for

00:11:47.800 people viewing and people listening, I mean, think of how intimidating that is. You're on your front steps.

00:11:51.460 It's five in the morning. Your child's in the house. These people who you don't know, who aren't

00:11:56.160 going away, are this close in front of you. You're going to be frightened. You're going

00:12:01.500 to be tense. Either way, I mean, we'll just close off on how you did end up finally at

00:12:07.120 least getting, you know, the charges dropped and such with you. Yeah, so then it was about

00:12:12.100 six months and then finally crowned, they found no chance of conviction. They dropped the charges.

00:12:20.020 Everything was done and let go. And then kind of the, everything kind of just ended after that.

00:12:29.520 Yeah, until the civil case, which came along.

00:12:32.720 And a year later, then the civil case where he tried to sue me again for the injuries that

00:12:37.740 occurred on the property. And then there was another court ordeal after that.

00:12:43.540 Yeah, and just to clarify, so that got dropped. They backed off. They realized, again, this is

00:12:46.960 ridiculous. People are getting pissed off. He's not going to win this. And that came to an end. 0.99

00:12:51.680 There was some legislation brought through because people got confused with that. They were saying,

00:12:54.880 oh, wasn't there new legislation with the recent one happening where people are allowed to

00:12:57.580 use a fire alarm? But that's not the case. The legislation just meant they can't sue you if they

00:13:01.160 were trying to rob you and they got hurt, right? Exactly. Yeah. So the legislation that the

00:13:05.540 government brought into place was that if there's a criminal that has been criminally charged,

00:13:12.280 cannot sue the landowner for any injuries that occurred on the property. So it's the same thing

00:13:19.360 if they break your window, cut themselves. Before, I guess they could have sued you. Now they can't.

00:13:26.820 Yeah, well, and as ridiculous as that sounds, we've heard of so many stupid lawsuits out there as if 0.99

00:13:31.380 you can't victimize a homeowner enough times that there's another way to do it. So getting to more 0.97

00:13:36.480 current things, and that's part of why I wanted to talk to you. I mean, somebody went through

00:13:38.720 something pretty similar in a sense of a home invasion. It was in Red Deer. You know, people

00:13:44.280 have probably seen that in the news recently. The man came home with his daughter from camping.

00:13:47.520 There was a gentleman passed out in his house. They're sleeping in there who grabbed a baseball bat

00:13:51.840 and then attacked him. In the struggle, the homeowner was injured. His thumb was crushed.

00:13:57.520 He got hit in the ear, I guess. He might be deaf over time. We'll see. I mean, this is very violent.

00:14:02.340 And he did manage to get a hold of a shotgun and shot the intruder, and the intruder died.

00:14:06.020 Something that was different, though, was the police, after a few days investigating,

00:14:09.560 decided not to charge him. Do you think in the case of, like, your past precedent and possibly even

00:14:16.100 the Stanley precedent, that the police are finally getting to a place where they're

00:14:19.040 recognizing a homeowner's right to defend themselves? I do. I absolutely believe that.

00:14:23.860 It's, you know, one of the biggest issues that came out of my case is I was charged,

00:14:29.280 before forensics was even on the property, to even do a proper investigation. One of the things that I

00:14:35.020 was actually really surprised with was the RCMP actually did their due diligence properly and

00:14:40.560 didn't charge the homeowner right away under the assumption that he just did it. They did the full

00:14:46.200 investigation to actually bring out the evidence to see what is really happening and then make

00:14:52.420 a judgment call on that. Whereas in your case, they arrested and secured you before even really

00:14:58.140 investigating or doing anything. They presumed you were dangerous, guilty of something and took you in.

00:15:04.020 Absolutely 100% on, in my circumstances, I was arrested, taken into Okadok's jail, charged, before even forensics was even on the property.

00:15:18.320 So this has led to a lot of questions. I wrote a piece on it at a different publication recently, but

00:15:23.280 in that, I mean, it's good to see the police are recognizing perhaps it's not worth pursuing the charges.

00:15:28.120 I mean, they do want to charge. That seems pretty clear. But they realize they just can't get a conviction

00:15:32.920 through the court. But I think what we really need is some laws to clarify our right to defend ourselves

00:15:37.760 and our property, I would think. Yeah, I think so. Like it is, it comes down to that case is, you know,

00:15:43.080 if you're far, too far away, police aren't present, they can't get to you in a reasonable amount of

00:15:49.220 time. What can a homeowner actually do to protect themselves and their family when someone is attacking

00:15:56.660 them? Yeah. And again, that's part of why I wanted to come out and talk to you. Like it just helps maybe,

00:16:00.640 you know, we've got a lot of urban listening and viewers who just don't necessarily understand.

00:16:05.480 It's different when you have a neighbor 10 feet on either side of you. It's different when you know

00:16:09.820 the police are going to be there within five or 10 minutes. We're in the MD of Foothills where the

00:16:14.020 average response, you know, I live in the MD as well, is 40 minutes. So, I mean, if you lock yourself

00:16:19.520 in your house, you better really hope these guys don't want to come in.

00:16:21.600 Well, and then it comes down to the same case is you have to make a mental decision is are you going

00:16:29.520 to wait to sit there, be on the phone with the RCMP while someone's coming after you? Like, again,

00:16:35.740 the guy in what happened up in Red Deer is a prime example. Is he supposed to just run around,

00:16:40.240 try to talk on the phone, try to get the police to come? There's someone in there attacking him.

00:16:45.020 He has to defend himself. There's nothing he can do.

00:16:48.260 No, I mean, you've got seconds to act, not minutes. It's not, you see, pardon me, sir.

00:16:52.060 No, hold off on the robbery. I gotta, I gotta get my phone and call the police. It's not a,

00:16:55.720 not a reasonable one. Something that seems to be a common thread in a lot of these two,

00:17:00.420 in the cases of a Ryan Watson, I think was the clown who was coming around here.

00:17:04.340 Yeah. Um, I don't think they gave the name of the gentleman in Red Deer, but these are addicts. 0.97

00:17:07.900 Uh, people with some, some, some serious problems that, I mean, people have to realize that you can't

00:17:13.000 reason with somebody if they're wired up on, uh, meth or some of these other items as well.

00:17:17.840 Like it does make for dangerous people. They aren't just harmless thieves.

00:17:20.680 No, exactly. And again, at the time you, they're not announcing that they're on drugs or what

00:17:25.340 they're doing, what their intent is or anything. Just like Ryan Watson, who is one of the criminals

00:17:32.420 that was here, you know, he was two times probation violation already. So he's been previously charged.

00:17:39.220 He's been through the system. He was charged six weeks later after being arrested from this

00:17:44.140 incident too. So, and then it was the same case up in Red Deer. The guy is a repeat offender.

00:17:50.880 It's well, and in Red Deer in that case, I don't know if you saw those details. So

00:17:53.960 in the days prior, he'd broken into the house. Once the police picked him up, took him to the

00:17:59.800 Howard Johnson, where he'd been living. Apparently he's living. Well, he was,

00:18:02.780 he's not living anywhere now. Uh, then he came and broke in yet again. Like he had something

00:18:08.720 wrong with him, obviously, but he came back to that same house. I guess he used to reside

00:18:11.720 there as a renter or something in the past and he just felt drawn to it. But the second

00:18:15.860 time he came, the landowner's children locked him out and he was beating on the door. He

00:18:20.620 did property damage and the police picked him up and took him away again and put him in

00:18:23.840 the hotel again. Didn't charge him. No charges. Like what does it take to get a charge or

00:18:27.440 evidence that maybe this person needs to be secure? Well, and that's a big problem in

00:18:32.340 the system is the catch and release where they're not actually holding someone who

00:18:37.000 obviously has intent to come, to cause harm, to do damage that needs to be properly put

00:18:45.660 somewhere, assessed and figure out what needs to be done with that person. Yeah. And it is

00:18:51.420 a tough job. The police have a tough job. I mean, you don't want to lock up every addict

00:18:54.460 as being a bit of a pain. Unfortunately, there are so many of them. We can't lock

00:18:57.420 them all up. But these cases, these repeat ones, I mean, the woman who was with Ryan

00:19:00.580 Watson, she had quite the checkered history. I mean, she was in two different police

00:19:04.200 chases in her past. One where she smashed through an old TV set in Saskatchewan, I 0.97

00:19:07.760 think, wasn't it? Yeah, it was the corner gas set. Kind of bizarre and we laugh about

00:19:13.420 it, but I mean, this is a dangerous person. She's doing high-speed chases. And this is 1.00

00:19:17.140 chronic. This is over and over again. And homeowners are expected to just sit and

00:19:21.100 keep taking this abuse from these people. Well, and that's what they're saying is just

00:19:25.420 lock your doors, stay in, call the police. But if someone's going to be coming through

00:19:30.120 that front door, then you got no time. Like you said, the average response time in

00:19:35.040 the MD is 40 minutes. What are you going to do for that 40 minutes while you're sitting

00:19:38.580 and waiting? Yeah. And we had a lot of town hall meetings and there was a lot of

00:19:41.640 activity. I mean, you know, the good side, I guess, that could come out is your case

00:19:44.540 highlighted. I mean, you went through misery and hell and stress, but it did bring the

00:19:48.380 issue to a head. And a lot of frustrated people, I was at those meetings, were asking police

00:19:52.640 officers, what can I do? And the officers would say nothing every time. There's one guy said,

00:19:56.700 can I shoot the truck with a paintball gun? He said, no, no, if you did that, that'd be

00:19:59.780 pointing a firearm. He says, it's just a paintball gun. Yeah, well, if they think it's a firearm,

00:20:02.680 then it's considered a firearm. You can't do anything that's ridiculous and it's not reasonable. 0.89

00:20:08.080 No, exactly. And that's where, you know, we do have self-defense laws in Canada, but

00:20:13.380 they're not, there's that very gray area of what you're allowed to do and not. And we need

00:20:20.340 that more clarification and we got to give homeowners more rights that we're not trained

00:20:28.140 police officers. We don't know how to handle a situation. We don't know what we're going to do

00:20:32.300 in a situation when we're put in it. So you got to have that grace period of giving the homeowner

00:20:39.720 the benefit of the doubt, high stressful situation. You know, someone like myself, it's, I was woken up

00:20:47.340 and early in the morning, you're tired. You're not thinking proper. Things are happening. The case

00:20:53.000 in Red Deer comes home, there's someone like you're, you're not planning for this to happen.

00:20:58.340 Well, no, and you're not, you know, a big MMA fighter or anything like that either. I'm sure

00:21:02.320 you can hold your own and everything, but I mean, it's not reasonable to expect somebody to,

00:21:05.040 you know, physically grapple with, with intruders or, or use a minor form of defense. I mean,

00:21:10.240 a firearm is what potentially can, can, uh, you know, equal the field, hopefully prevent something.

00:21:16.020 Like I think, you know, in your case, it's questionable. We don't know what those people

00:21:19.500 were going to do had you not confronted and stopped it with a firearm. I think we can say

00:21:23.180 with some confidence in Red Deer, he would have very possibly been beaten to death had he not

00:21:28.200 actually managed to get ahold of a firearm. So, I mean, just some of those people have a real

00:21:31.220 problem with firearms. We forget to mention using one for defense is a legitimate use of a firearm

00:21:36.180 and we have to drive that home. I think. Well, it is because the Red Deer case really

00:21:42.660 spotlights that is you got a guy with a baseball bat that's coming after you. You got a kid in the

00:21:48.160 house there too. What, what advantages do you have? What are you going to use to try to stop this guy?

00:21:57.220 And then just some urban people don't understand that. I mean, you know, and I'm a rural person,

00:22:00.560 we're not psychopaths. I mean, we don't want to go out and shoot every person who shows up selling

00:22:04.580 girl guide cookies or a tourist asking for directions, but in an uncomfortable or dangerous

00:22:09.040 situation like that, then yes, a firearm might be the appropriate means to respond.

00:22:13.480 Well, exactly. It's your, no one is ever using it as an intent to use it, but it's a tool that we

00:22:22.200 have that we can use. And yeah, and you can use it right to responsibly or wrong. I mean, had you

00:22:28.240 or anybody else been shooting at them and they were driving away and down the driveway and they hadn't

00:22:32.860 taken anything or threatened you? Well, you know, chances are you're going to be charged and not

00:22:35.820 too many people have sympathy. I mean, it's a circumstance by circumstance sort of situation.

00:22:39.960 Yeah, exactly. And that's where they now hopefully really look at the situations, look at what the

00:22:46.740 homeowner is dealing with and really see through the homeowner's eyes of what they had to deal with

00:22:54.560 at that time.

00:22:56.180 So with this recent case, your case, other cases, some discussion that's been coming up too is the

00:23:00.860 finally getting on with perhaps forming an Alberta Provincial Police Force. So we'll have a

00:23:04.700 more closely tied community policing theoretically or hopefully. You had a hard time with the RCMP.

00:23:10.240 I mean, there was a lot of things they did wrong. I mean, there's good things the RCMP do and there's

00:23:14.780 some things that just aren't right, particularly with community areas. I mean, they're not from the

00:23:18.460 area. They get transferred out here. But if a new police force gets formed, I mean, it's an opportunity

00:23:23.360 that we can perhaps, you know, change the culture of it, change some attitudes, change some policies. What would you

00:23:27.440 like to see in a new force to maybe reduce these kind of problems like you had to endure?

00:23:31.700 Well, I think it just needs to be brought back is they need to get out to the communities more.

00:23:37.320 They need to interact more. You know, one of the problems with a lot of the police forces around is

00:23:45.460 they're not out. They're not engaging with the public. They're not asking people, you know,

00:23:51.340 have you noticed anything? It seems like every time you won't talk to them or you want to talk

00:23:56.460 to them, you're they turn around that you're the criminal in every situation. And you got to go

00:24:01.840 back to how it used to be where you can approach them, talk to them. Yeah. And it's challenging. I

00:24:07.100 mean, I'll give a little credit where due to like our the person running our detachment in Turner

00:24:11.100 Valley, at least when she first came out, seemed to really be trying to reach out and engage. But

00:24:14.260 it's tough, you know, and especially if she was transferred in, you're always coming from out of town,

00:24:17.840 like having a local person come in, you would think you already got that advantage. You know,

00:24:21.480 the area, you know, the ground, you know, the atmosphere, the type of people, the type of local

00:24:25.120 problems. Yeah. And I think maybe, you know, they start if we bring in the provincial police force

00:24:31.520 and stuff is keep doing the town hall meetings. That's the best way to get to know what's going

00:24:36.200 on in the communities, get people that you can talk to and everything else. Yeah. And then law wise,

00:24:42.840 what would you like to see, you know, perhaps in some legislation or things that could help patch those

00:24:47.280 holes? I mean, again, right now, we're kind of, I think kind of doing it in the chicken sort of way,

00:24:51.260 okay, we're just not going to charge because we know we won't get a conviction, but we know they

00:24:54.560 want to. I mean, we should be able to enshrine it to feel a little more comfortable, I would think.

00:24:58.740 Well, I think it goes on both ends. I think we need to have more stricter penalties, obviously,

00:25:03.740 for the criminals. We can't have, we got to deal with this revolving door that they're arrested,

00:25:10.460 they're released, they come back, they do it again. These repeat offenders need to be dealt with.

00:25:15.520 And I do, I was really pleased with how the RCMP handled the Red Deer case. I think we are finally

00:25:24.860 moving in a better direction and able to deal with it better.

00:25:30.480 Well, and another note, you know, that doesn't get covered is we have the right to protect property.

00:25:34.700 I mean, in your case, you know, you're defending yourself and your daughter and in Red Deer,

00:25:37.780 he's defending himself, but your property is at risk too. And people are getting robbed a lot

00:25:41.520 in rural areas. And some people say, well, you just got to let it go. That one officer at the

00:25:46.080 townhome, he says, just stuff. And he almost got lynched in the meeting. It's not stuff. It's the

00:25:51.700 tools of our trade. It's the stuff we had to work hard for. We're not rich out here. And insurance

00:25:55.620 companies are even starting to refuse to cover some homeowners, you know, because they've been robbed

00:25:59.360 too many times. Perhaps some stronger protection of property rights.

00:26:03.500 Well, and that is a really big problem with rural people is I've had a bunch of people that have 1.00

00:26:10.420 approached me over the years talking to me about their cases and being robbed. And, you know, a lot

00:26:16.640 of them can't even get insurance anymore. So now they're struck with nothing. If you're told, well,

00:26:22.680 just let that stuff go. You can't even have insurance to cover that anymore.

00:26:27.640 Yeah. And I don't think you ever want to go shoot somebody because they're running away with my

00:26:31.000 chainsaw. But I think, you know, I should have the right to go out and try and intervene, you know,

00:26:37.880 to stop it. And yeah, maybe it, and that's what they say is, well, that might escalate into something

00:26:40.900 that's violent. Well, that's unfortunate, but that's on the back of the criminal, not myself.

00:26:45.660 You know, if they would just leave my property alone, I'm not going to go and intervene. And perhaps

00:26:49.420 with a firearm. Well, and that's, that's another good point with it all too, is they're the ones that

00:26:55.720 chose to come on to that person's property. They know what they are doing. They know

00:27:00.900 what their intent is. Yeah. We, we, you, we're coming in blind. We don't know. I mean,

00:27:06.480 I've been lucky. The only thing that's happened to our place so far, I found the gas cap open.

00:27:09.460 Somebody tried to siphon some gas one night, but you just never know when somebody's coming

00:27:13.400 about what they're going to do. Yeah, exactly. Well, I thank you very much for chatting with

00:27:19.340 me again. It's good to see you again. It's been a bit, I don't own the bar, so I don't get

00:27:22.320 to see you down there in the pub anymore. And is there anything else you'd like to add

00:27:26.420 while I got you today? Uh, no, I don't think so. I really appreciate it. And you know,

00:27:31.700 we will talk again, hopefully, uh, you know, on rural crime or other issues, but not in

00:27:36.680 any case of a tragedy. No, absolutely. Thanks. No, thanks Eddie.

00:27:42.360 So there you go. Uh, it was a great talk with Eddie. You know, one of the things that you can't

00:27:47.040 really see, but if you'd seen Eddie back in those days when things were going through court and

00:27:50.540 everything else, he was so stressed. His face was pulled and pinched back. He didn't smile. Uh, you can see

00:27:56.000 he's a bit more relaxed now. Uh, he's appreciating things as, as they are. Uh, you know, he just

00:28:01.360 really got put through the ringer for daring to defend his, his household and his family. I'm glad

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Western Standard - August 13, 2021

Cory Morgan Show - Gun Rights and the Rural Crime Crisis with Eddie Maurice

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