Western Standard - February 16, 2025


Cory Morgan Show. It's time to MAFA Gaza


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

190.55939

Word Count

8,798

Sentence Count

657

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

31


Summary

In this episode of the Cory Morgan Show, we have a guest on the show, Professor Sylvain Charlebois. He is a food and food economics professor at the University of Toronto. He has a great perspective on supply management, food waste and food waste in general. He also rants about some of the things going on in the Middle East, such as the Trump's new plan for Gaza, the Arab world's lack of interest in a two-state solution, and more.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good day.
00:00:29.280 Hey, welcome to The Cory Morgan Show.
00:00:31.220 As you can see, it's the same show, but we've got a new background.
00:00:34.260 We have a view of the newsroom live behind me.
00:00:36.840 We can see Jen back there.
00:00:38.400 I've started that pool on X for one of you guys, you know,
00:00:41.240 trying to make your bets on when eventually somebody does something untoward in the background
00:00:45.800 so we can have fun with it.
00:00:47.600 But it certainly gives everybody on their guard in the newsroom,
00:00:49.900 gives something different to look at than that cityscape we used to have.
00:00:52.580 But the subject matter is going to be the same.
00:00:54.640 Still covering these issues, ranting about things and having interesting guests.
00:00:58.160 And today is no exception.
00:00:58.980 I've got Professor Sylvain Charlebois coming on in a little while.
00:01:02.760 He might know him as the food professor.
00:01:04.540 He's great on talking about things like supply management and just academia in general
00:01:08.100 because there's been some serious issues within that.
00:01:12.640 As well, of course, I'll be covering some new things, getting the updates and all of that good stuff.
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00:01:55.600 All right, well, let's get on to what I want to rant about today, get things going.
00:01:59.140 So let's talk, starting with President Trump, of course, always in the news.
00:02:02.080 And he's a bombastic character who shoots from the hip and often has departures from the truth.
00:02:07.420 It's hard to know when to take his musings seriously or if he's just trying to shake things up.
00:02:12.160 Now, when it comes to Trump's proposal for Gaza, though, let's hope he's deadly serious.
00:02:16.580 It's the best idea I've seen for the region yet.
00:02:19.440 I mean, let's face it, the two-state solution's a dream because the Arab world has utterly no interest in it.
00:02:25.180 While Israel has supported maintaining a blended population within its own borders,
00:02:28.920 Arab nations have ejected nearly every Jew from their countries.
00:02:32.220 Israel has over 2 million Arab citizens living peacefully and with full rights within it.
00:02:36.600 You rarely hear about that, though.
00:02:38.240 However, in 2005, Israel bent under international pressure.
00:02:42.600 Disengaged from Gaza and the West Bank, they shut down and dismantled 21 Jewish settlements
00:02:47.580 and the Palestinians were given free reign over the land.
00:02:50.560 It was a form of two-state solution and billions of dollars came from other nations
00:02:54.520 to help Palestinians build their state.
00:02:56.780 So what did the Palestinians do?
00:02:58.300 Well, as soon as they had control over the territories,
00:03:00.060 they put the terrorist organization Hamas in charge of the government in Gaza
00:03:03.920 and empowered the terrorists of Hezbollah and the West Bank.
00:03:06.520 Instead of developing an economy and improving the standard of living for their people,
00:03:09.560 they dug hundreds of miles of terror tunnels to attack Israel.
00:03:12.980 Rather than expand infrastructure for their people,
00:03:14.780 they dug out water pipes and converted them into rockets to fire into Israel.
00:03:18.760 The Arab world has no interest in a two-state solution.
00:03:21.720 They want to wipe out every Jew in Israel and won't settle for anything less.
00:03:25.420 Listen to them when they tell you.
00:03:26.560 It's not like they make a secret of it, guys.
00:03:28.180 They pour funds into terrorist groups attacking Israel and chanting from the river to the sea.
00:03:32.100 There can't be any negotiation with them,
00:03:34.860 especially when the only, again, demand is the annihilation of every Jew in the Middle East.
00:03:39.220 Yet world organizations expect Israel to negotiate with them.
00:03:42.520 With years of fundraising, digging, and planning,
00:03:45.780 the Palestinian people set off their revolution in October 2023
00:03:49.360 by raiding a music festival in Peaceful Kibitzis.
00:03:52.920 They went on an orgy of torture, destruction, rape, and murder.
00:03:56.300 As they slaughtered over 1,200 people,
00:03:58.160 they took hundreds of hostages who they tortured, raped, and often killed.
00:04:01.200 And have only released them on occasion when backed against the wall.
00:04:05.040 They were given the world on the platter
00:04:06.560 with funding and access to one of the most beautiful coastlines on Earth.
00:04:09.740 Rather than embracing it,
00:04:10.940 they devolved into subhuman savagery
00:04:12.840 and expanded their culture of mindless hate.
00:04:15.860 They break every peace deal
00:04:17.120 and yet again have broken another agreement to release hostages.
00:04:21.240 Palestinians have given up the right to the land bordering on Israel.
00:04:24.560 It's time they migrated to the Arab nations who funded their way by proxy.
00:04:28.520 They want to live in a Jew-free world.
00:04:30.400 Egypt and Jordan can offer that to them.
00:04:32.940 Their values of beating women and murdering gay people
00:04:35.100 will be better accepted in those places anyways.
00:04:37.700 There's never been a country of Palestine,
00:04:39.800 so let's quit pretending the world owes them one.
00:04:41.820 Palestinians will fit in as well in Egypt or Jordan
00:04:43.900 as they will anywhere else, that's for sure.
00:04:45.760 It's rather telling how mortified, actually,
00:04:47.700 Egyptians and Jordanians are at the prospect
00:04:49.400 of an influx of Gazans within their midst.
00:04:51.660 They know they created a monster
00:04:53.180 and they don't want to have to live with it.
00:04:55.020 Gaza provides a perfect buffer for Israel
00:04:57.880 and having a third party like the U.S. in charge of it.
00:05:01.580 It's a good mediator.
00:05:02.880 The Strip could begin to meet its potential.
00:05:04.440 With rebuilding focused on housing, hospitals, schools, businesses,
00:05:07.360 the region could prosper.
00:05:08.620 Not to mention some nice casinos.
00:05:10.300 That's only going to happen under a third party oversight.
00:05:12.380 We know the Palestinians will just try and turn the zone
00:05:14.500 into another terrorism launch pad if given a chance.
00:05:17.800 Let a Trump Tower rise on the coast.
00:05:19.440 Clean those beaches and build some resorts.
00:05:21.080 Golf courses are prettier to look at than rocket batteries.
00:05:23.120 The area is a little more than rubble right now, anyways,
00:05:25.820 and that's purely due to the intransigence of Gazans
00:05:28.000 when it came to releasing the hostages.
00:05:30.780 Israel wasn't going to stop
00:05:32.280 until every single citizen was accounted for,
00:05:34.040 and they shouldn't.
00:05:35.560 Displaced Palestinians, well,
00:05:36.940 they would be welcome to pursue working opportunities
00:05:38.640 back in Gaza if they could prove
00:05:39.780 they want to set aside their hate
00:05:41.200 and actually try to live peacefully.
00:05:42.800 Any evidence of terrorist activity or planning
00:05:44.400 would be dealt with harshly.
00:05:46.220 Quit pretending the Gazan people weren't supportive
00:05:48.760 of the atrocities on October 7th
00:05:50.820 and the attacks launched on Israel since.
00:05:53.120 Hamas couldn't hide hundreds of hostages
00:05:54.760 for over a year without participation from the public.
00:05:57.200 They couldn't have planned for and launched
00:05:58.840 an assault on Israel like that
00:05:59.940 without a complicit population.
00:06:01.680 They made their bed.
00:06:03.180 Some time wandering in the desert
00:06:04.400 would do the Gazan people some good.
00:06:06.200 Offer them a chance for some introspection
00:06:07.700 and perhaps inspire them to evolve upward
00:06:10.220 into maybe 18th century values.
00:06:12.660 They might even begin to consider women's rights one day.
00:06:15.040 Hey, it served Moses and his bunch well enough.
00:06:17.380 Trump's offering the first feasible solution
00:06:19.280 to the Palestinian issue we've seen in generations.
00:06:21.360 So, yeah, on that one,
00:06:22.780 let's hope he plans on following through with it.
00:06:25.300 All right.
00:06:25.920 Well, there's my nice, simple rant for the day.
00:06:28.680 Let's check in on Dave Naylor
00:06:30.120 and see what else is going on in the news out there.
00:06:31.320 Hey, Dave, how's it going?
00:06:31.980 Oh, this is different, isn't it?
00:06:33.120 It is, it is.
00:06:33.960 So they can see what my staff's doing.
00:06:36.240 Hey, they're not flocking out there.
00:06:37.940 Hey, they're not flocking out there.
00:06:38.400 Coming away with Jen.
00:06:39.620 Come on.
00:06:40.000 Yeah.
00:06:40.260 So, looking on Facebook,
00:06:43.620 you found a couple of dead bees at your place
00:06:45.560 and that makes you happy.
00:06:46.420 It does.
00:06:47.020 It does.
00:06:47.380 Can you explain why?
00:06:48.380 Well, it's been, as we know, awfully cold out.
00:06:50.700 I mean, in the little Prittis Valley,
00:06:52.320 we've been hitting minus 30 in some of the mornings.
00:06:54.840 Dead bees outside of the hive are actually a good sign
00:06:56.800 because it shows they're alive in there.
00:06:58.480 And when the bees die,
00:06:59.940 when things warm up a little bit,
00:07:01.040 they'll take the dead ones out,
00:07:02.960 bring out your dead,
00:07:03.800 toss them out under the snow.
00:07:05.180 So you always worry that you've lost your hives over winter.
00:07:07.360 And when I go out and see a couple of dead ones laying there,
00:07:09.640 I know that they're still kicking in there.
00:07:10.980 So my chances of having my hives
00:07:12.620 making through the winter look better.
00:07:13.800 Nice.
00:07:14.000 So there is a chance that some spring honey?
00:07:16.960 Yeah.
00:07:17.320 Once we get into the flow in May or so,
00:07:18.800 I might get a little bit of an early harvest
00:07:19.980 if both, you know, those hives kick out well this year.
00:07:22.560 Awesome.
00:07:23.120 Yeah.
00:07:23.460 Well, another busy day in the news.
00:07:25.400 We're leading off with a big story,
00:07:27.200 Corey, big, big, big story about the Big Mac.
00:07:31.940 Donald Trump's favorite meal could go up in price
00:07:34.840 because everything about the Big Mac
00:07:37.500 is dependent on potash to grow the wheat,
00:07:41.120 to, you know, to make the buns, you know.
00:07:45.040 So if there's a tariff on potash,
00:07:47.220 which they haven't announced yet,
00:07:49.920 then that's going to result in the bigger price of a Big Mac,
00:07:53.840 which I'm sure Donald can afford it,
00:07:57.140 but others may go away.
00:07:59.200 Lots of stuff from Trudeau today
00:08:01.380 as he continues his farewell jaunt
00:08:03.460 through European capitals.
00:08:06.100 He talked about reaffirming his commitment
00:08:08.400 to NORAD and NATO,
00:08:10.720 but didn't explain how we were going to get
00:08:12.780 to the 2% figure.
00:08:16.160 He said that Canada will never, ever become 51st state,
00:08:19.860 so Trump should stop talking about it.
00:08:22.220 And he's talking about Arctic sovereignty
00:08:25.340 and all that sort of stuff.
00:08:26.420 The new fentanyl czar made an appearance
00:08:29.500 at an Ontario border today
00:08:31.460 and outlined how he wants to crack down
00:08:35.900 on the fentanyl between the two countries.
00:08:38.720 And your average MP is celebrating today
00:08:40.940 because they just got a $15,000 raise,
00:08:43.600 almost $16,000.
00:08:45.240 It's not bad for the number of days
00:08:46.800 they worked out there.
00:08:48.220 They haven't done a bloody thing since last year.
00:08:50.040 No, they should be paying us money back.
00:08:52.380 And a study out showing Calgary
00:08:55.740 is going to be one of the two hardest-hit cities
00:08:57.940 if tariffs do come in,
00:09:01.360 the other one being St. John's
00:09:03.960 with the refinery out there.
00:09:06.900 So, yeah, if they do come in,
00:09:09.100 it's going to certainly hit our city hard.
00:09:12.340 It's just hard to figure out what to deal with, though.
00:09:14.860 I mean, kind of like I said at the start
00:09:15.920 of that monologue, too,
00:09:16.820 that with Trump, you don't know when he means it
00:09:18.380 or when he doesn't.
00:09:18.940 I mean, he took us right to the 11th hour
00:09:20.200 with the tariffs before,
00:09:22.340 then he backed off.
00:09:23.120 Now he's in post-new ones.
00:09:24.000 Now he's saying the whole thing's coming
00:09:25.040 in a few weeks, but maybe it won't.
00:09:26.980 It's that state of constant frenzy
00:09:29.020 that's just so difficult to deal with, isn't it?
00:09:33.000 And all the premiers are down there now.
00:09:34.400 They're apparently going into the White House
00:09:36.460 later on today, not to meet Trump.
00:09:39.520 They're meeting some assistant deputy
00:09:41.960 to the associate chief of staff
00:09:44.580 or something like that.
00:09:45.560 So we'll see what comes of that.
00:09:47.380 Well, it gives us no shortage
00:09:49.760 of things to cover.
00:09:50.780 Well, no, the news business
00:09:52.780 is a little crazy these days,
00:09:54.000 and I love it.
00:09:54.660 All right.
00:09:55.120 Well, I'll let you go back
00:09:56.200 into that newsroom.
00:09:57.040 We'll watch you in the background.
00:09:58.520 I think from the right angle,
00:10:00.040 I'll see you sitting there.
00:10:00.980 So again, just watch
00:10:01.880 if you're scratching anything,
00:10:03.020 you know, untoward or something.
00:10:05.360 I will definitely do my best.
00:10:06.960 I don't want to be like Trump's,
00:10:08.580 or not Trump's,
00:10:09.920 Elon Musk's kid,
00:10:11.220 picking his nose,
00:10:12.220 harvesting a nose gobbler
00:10:13.560 in the Oval Office.
00:10:14.320 And Trump and eating it
00:10:16.600 as Trump kind of looked on
00:10:18.260 and uttered disdain.
00:10:19.420 Yeah.
00:10:21.680 Oh, it's a world.
00:10:23.020 I don't know.
00:10:23.720 It's a world.
00:10:24.420 One of us will get caught
00:10:25.500 at some point in the thing,
00:10:26.840 and it'll just make for fun
00:10:28.780 showing at the Christmas party.
00:10:31.200 Yeah.
00:10:31.440 Well, and yeah,
00:10:32.420 I'll be watching too
00:10:33.380 because I'll make a lot of it.
00:10:34.620 And I'm sure our commenters there,
00:10:35.880 I see Paradoxie and Wildrose
00:10:37.160 and some of the others,
00:10:37.920 they'll certainly let me know fast enough
00:10:39.440 if somebody's done something
00:10:40.480 in that background.
00:10:41.320 Oh, absolutely.
00:10:41.900 I feel kind of bad for Jen in a way.
00:10:44.780 Oh, well, she's fine.
00:10:46.740 She gets a profile,
00:10:47.680 her work recognized.
00:10:48.240 She does.
00:10:48.860 Right on.
00:10:49.280 All right.
00:10:49.440 Thanks, Dave.
00:10:49.980 You bet, Corey.
00:10:50.840 All right.
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00:11:44.480 I mean,
00:11:44.700 what a year we're in.
00:11:46.880 I mean,
00:11:47.060 I've never seen anything like this.
00:11:50.020 We've got,
00:11:50.700 of course,
00:11:50.960 the return of President Trump.
00:11:52.120 Yeah,
00:11:52.200 nobody missed that.
00:11:52.980 But he's hit the ground
00:11:54.760 running more.
00:11:57.180 I don't know how to put it,
00:11:58.160 you know,
00:11:58.360 haywire,
00:11:58.900 inconsistent,
00:11:59.420 just being Trump.
00:12:00.740 You know,
00:12:01.140 a bull in a China shop.
00:12:02.540 And in this last month,
00:12:03.640 he's done more
00:12:04.460 through those executive orders
00:12:05.760 than your average president
00:12:06.900 does in an entire term.
00:12:08.620 And we've still got
00:12:09.640 three and nine tenths
00:12:11.720 of his term
00:12:12.520 left ahead of him.
00:12:14.220 Who knows what's going to happen
00:12:15.460 and Canada's reactions.
00:12:16.640 And it's tough.
00:12:17.600 It is tough.
00:12:18.540 I like
00:12:19.740 seeing the status quo
00:12:22.180 stirred up.
00:12:22.860 I like seeing
00:12:23.940 somebody come in
00:12:24.620 and shake things up a bit.
00:12:25.700 But at the same time,
00:12:26.860 is there a plan though?
00:12:28.200 You've still got to have
00:12:28.840 an end in mind.
00:12:29.740 I mean,
00:12:29.860 is he just doing it
00:12:30.680 for the sake of doing it?
00:12:32.060 Tariffs are terrible policy.
00:12:34.040 I've seen a lot of discussion
00:12:35.040 on that back and forth
00:12:35.840 and they're not good guys.
00:12:37.780 They're clumsy tools
00:12:39.040 for trying to make
00:12:40.220 economic change.
00:12:41.180 They tend to hurt yourself
00:12:42.340 more than others.
00:12:44.560 And most economists
00:12:45.800 typically don't think
00:12:47.720 highly of tariffs
00:12:48.680 as a way
00:12:49.240 to help your own economy.
00:12:52.080 But they can certainly
00:12:53.380 be used as a tool
00:12:56.000 to, I guess,
00:12:56.700 knock other nations
00:12:58.460 into submission.
00:12:59.080 And that seems to be
00:13:00.000 more the intent
00:13:00.720 on what Donald Trump's
00:13:01.800 doing right now.
00:13:02.520 But how well
00:13:03.360 is it going to serve them?
00:13:04.200 You know,
00:13:04.360 aluminum tariffs,
00:13:05.280 steel tariffs.
00:13:05.880 Okay, great.
00:13:06.640 But who pays that?
00:13:07.820 Well,
00:13:08.300 it's going to be
00:13:08.860 the American consumers
00:13:09.860 because the price
00:13:11.880 just comes on to them
00:13:12.900 and it might slow sales
00:13:14.080 within Canada.
00:13:15.300 So yes,
00:13:15.940 that hurts Canadian producers.
00:13:17.420 So again,
00:13:17.740 where's the winner?
00:13:18.700 Who's the winner
00:13:19.400 in all of this?
00:13:22.580 It's just difficult
00:13:23.720 to watch.
00:13:24.340 So you can be
00:13:25.100 somewhat supportive
00:13:25.720 and not supportive
00:13:26.400 at the same time.
00:13:27.400 Canada doesn't know
00:13:28.100 how to deal with them.
00:13:29.240 At the same time,
00:13:29.800 we're stuck in this period
00:13:31.180 of stasis
00:13:32.280 when we've got
00:13:32.880 an outgoing prime minister.
00:13:35.680 It looks like
00:13:36.340 a coronation for Carney,
00:13:37.600 but who knows?
00:13:38.540 A parliament
00:13:39.120 that's prorogued.
00:13:40.380 Then we might go
00:13:41.020 into a general election.
00:13:42.140 I don't know.
00:13:42.820 The rumors are starting
00:13:43.560 to come hot and heavy
00:13:44.880 that Jagmeet Singh's
00:13:45.840 probably going to be
00:13:46.720 cutting a deal
00:13:47.260 to extend the new leader
00:13:48.480 of the Liberals
00:13:48.980 some time.
00:13:50.580 Might be all the way
00:13:51.520 into fall.
00:13:52.900 If we don't have,
00:13:54.660 you know,
00:13:55.040 and I mean,
00:13:55.540 you certainly have
00:13:56.040 my preferences,
00:13:56.780 but if we don't have
00:13:57.900 a prime minister
00:13:58.900 with a solid mandate
00:14:00.660 in this time right now,
00:14:01.700 somebody who's going
00:14:02.200 to be there
00:14:02.700 for some years,
00:14:03.920 it's going to be hard
00:14:04.700 to make lasting deals
00:14:06.040 with President Trump
00:14:07.140 or anybody else
00:14:07.800 for that matter.
00:14:08.620 We've really got to
00:14:09.500 get our affairs in order.
00:14:10.820 There's never a good time
00:14:11.880 to have a parliament
00:14:12.640 in such flux and chaos
00:14:13.920 as we do right now,
00:14:15.080 but now is worse
00:14:16.180 than a whole heck
00:14:16.860 of a lot of the other times
00:14:17.840 for it.
00:14:18.260 There's no getting around that.
00:14:20.300 All right.
00:14:20.920 Well, speaking on
00:14:21.400 some of those issues,
00:14:22.340 and he's been fantastic
00:14:23.540 and prolific online,
00:14:24.460 I've seen them all over
00:14:25.120 my television screen
00:14:26.100 lately as well,
00:14:27.440 is Dr. Sylvain Charlebois.
00:14:29.480 He's also known
00:14:30.060 as the food professor.
00:14:31.240 He's been on before
00:14:32.180 and boy,
00:14:32.960 he likes to cut
00:14:33.520 through the BS.
00:14:34.400 So I really appreciate
00:14:35.540 you joining us today
00:14:37.720 to talk for a little while.
00:14:39.480 Sylvain.
00:14:40.500 Yeah, absolutely, Corey.
00:14:41.520 Thank you for inviting me again.
00:14:43.140 I know we've been trying
00:14:44.980 to get a date together
00:14:47.040 to speak about
00:14:48.440 all of these issues,
00:14:49.900 but now here we are
00:14:51.500 together, finally.
00:14:52.760 Yes, I've got you.
00:14:53.720 You know, I do want to,
00:14:55.440 because it seems supply
00:14:56.320 management's kind of
00:14:56.960 hitting things,
00:14:57.440 and it's always been
00:14:57.920 kind of a pet issue
00:14:58.660 for both of us,
00:14:59.400 but I want to talk
00:14:59.820 about that a little later.
00:15:00.660 The first reason
00:15:01.340 I wanted to bring you on,
00:15:02.320 though, you know,
00:15:03.540 it's kind of fallen
00:15:04.200 by the wayside,
00:15:04.920 but we can't forget
00:15:05.480 we have a carbon tax,
00:15:07.020 and it does impact
00:15:08.820 consumer prices.
00:15:10.820 And what I want to talk
00:15:13.120 about is some of the
00:15:13.620 inconsistency among academia,
00:15:15.040 and you've been at least
00:15:15.920 open in questioning
00:15:17.500 some of the other
00:15:18.840 interpretations of it.
00:15:21.020 Has the carbon tax
00:15:22.300 impacted food prices or not?
00:15:23.860 We don't know.
00:15:27.920 I mean, we can't really
00:15:29.540 correlate the policy
00:15:31.120 with retail prices,
00:15:33.200 because as you know,
00:15:33.880 Corey, a lot of things
00:15:34.620 can impact retail prices.
00:15:36.780 And this is the one thing
00:15:37.920 that many economists,
00:15:39.280 and a lot of them
00:15:39.820 in Alberta, where you are,
00:15:41.760 they don't seem to understand
00:15:42.960 how distribution
00:15:43.720 actually works.
00:15:44.660 Distribution economics
00:15:45.740 are complicated,
00:15:47.860 and a policy like the carbon tax
00:15:50.000 will compound
00:15:52.020 throughout the supply chain
00:15:53.660 and will eventually
00:15:54.720 impact consumers,
00:15:56.400 whether there is
00:15:57.160 a consumer carbon tax
00:15:58.680 or not, by the way.
00:16:00.620 And this is the one thing
00:16:01.620 that we're hearing more
00:16:02.500 from liberal candidates
00:16:03.620 these days.
00:16:04.440 We're going to be eliminating
00:16:05.660 the consumer carbon tax,
00:16:08.140 but not for companies.
00:16:11.340 Well, guess who is going
00:16:12.360 to pay for that tax?
00:16:14.140 Eventually, it's going
00:16:15.060 to be the consumer.
00:16:16.820 Now, if you're trying
00:16:18.600 to assess how food
00:16:20.720 affordability is impacting,
00:16:22.500 is being impacted
00:16:23.540 by the carbon tax,
00:16:24.440 that's very difficult to do,
00:16:25.600 but you can assess
00:16:27.180 how the carbon tax
00:16:29.080 is affecting
00:16:30.040 the sector's competitiveness.
00:16:33.060 And that's really,
00:16:33.840 to me, even more important,
00:16:35.440 because over time,
00:16:36.660 if you impact
00:16:37.700 a sector's competitiveness,
00:16:39.480 you will make it
00:16:40.340 a food security issue.
00:16:41.520 And that's exactly
00:16:42.240 what's going on right now.
00:16:43.860 Wholesale prices
00:16:44.680 are actually pretty stable
00:16:46.440 in the U.S.,
00:16:47.940 food wholesale prices.
00:16:49.740 But in Canada,
00:16:50.460 since 2019,
00:16:51.740 since implementing
00:16:52.920 the carbon tax,
00:16:54.280 it's gone up 40% more
00:16:56.100 than in the U.S.
00:16:56.900 So if you're a Loblaw
00:16:57.920 or a Sobe's
00:16:58.840 or a Costco
00:16:59.520 or a Walmart Canada,
00:17:01.280 well, if you have a choice
00:17:03.360 between going to the U.S.
00:17:05.300 where things are cheaper,
00:17:06.560 more affordable,
00:17:07.180 versus Canada
00:17:07.940 where things are more expensive,
00:17:09.180 and especially right now
00:17:10.320 when people are looking
00:17:11.180 for Canada,
00:17:12.300 the grocery store,
00:17:13.160 well, it's more tempting
00:17:14.920 to actually go south.
00:17:16.420 And that's been
00:17:16.940 my number one concern
00:17:18.040 for a long time.
00:17:19.220 And I think
00:17:19.920 that we're actually
00:17:20.700 hurting our economy
00:17:21.880 from farm gate
00:17:22.980 to store.
00:17:26.080 Yeah, well,
00:17:26.820 and we need
00:17:27.280 those discussions.
00:17:28.960 So, I mean,
00:17:29.400 I don't want to get
00:17:30.480 too leading on things,
00:17:31.660 and we hope to get
00:17:32.220 things productive.
00:17:32.900 But, I mean,
00:17:33.160 some of the issue
00:17:33.700 we've got, too,
00:17:34.380 is sometimes
00:17:35.280 we've got economists
00:17:36.080 and others
00:17:36.560 who are kind of beholden
00:17:37.480 due to getting funding
00:17:38.560 through, you know,
00:17:39.820 government sources,
00:17:40.580 and it may or may not
00:17:41.660 impact some of their
00:17:44.060 conclusions sometimes
00:17:44.940 for the same reason
00:17:45.620 that I talk about
00:17:46.720 how we're proud
00:17:47.360 not to take government
00:17:48.080 funding as a media outlet.
00:17:50.060 Likewise, you know,
00:17:50.840 we prefer academia
00:17:51.820 not to be beholden
00:17:53.200 to the government,
00:17:54.120 whether it's a conservative
00:17:54.800 or liberal
00:17:55.240 or whatever government.
00:17:56.420 You know,
00:17:56.740 we want to make sure
00:17:57.660 they just stick to the facts.
00:17:59.700 Absolutely.
00:18:00.060 I have to outline
00:18:02.800 one case
00:18:04.620 with Trevor Toome
00:18:06.240 out of the University
00:18:06.720 of Calgary.
00:18:07.480 He's been publishing papers
00:18:09.580 with Jennifer Winter,
00:18:11.340 his wife, by the way,
00:18:13.060 and Jennifer Winter,
00:18:15.140 for people who may not know,
00:18:17.400 she's a special advisor
00:18:18.520 to Minister Stephen Gilbo
00:18:20.240 in Ottawa,
00:18:21.460 the Minister of Environment.
00:18:23.540 And so,
00:18:24.020 and some of the papers
00:18:25.440 that they were actually publishing
00:18:26.820 were funded by ECCC
00:18:28.940 on top of it all.
00:18:30.760 So,
00:18:31.300 and I think it's important
00:18:32.460 regardless of
00:18:33.620 what the papers
00:18:35.300 are telling us,
00:18:36.460 I think it's important
00:18:37.540 for people to understand here
00:18:39.420 the potential conflict
00:18:40.980 of interest
00:18:41.840 or perceived conflict
00:18:43.060 of interest.
00:18:43.860 It's super important
00:18:44.720 to understand
00:18:45.180 that everything
00:18:46.180 is intertwined.
00:18:47.840 And you got other scholars
00:18:48.940 also being funded
00:18:50.120 by ECCC
00:18:51.240 and they often
00:18:52.540 don't disclose
00:18:53.340 and they're not clear
00:18:54.640 in terms of what
00:18:55.300 they're doing.
00:18:56.120 They're all working together
00:18:57.600 to support one narrative.
00:18:59.180 Science is not about
00:19:00.240 supporting one narrative.
00:19:01.860 It's about understanding.
00:19:04.020 And over the last
00:19:04.600 eight, nine years
00:19:05.740 we've seen Ottawa
00:19:06.740 just supporting
00:19:07.560 one narrative
00:19:08.640 with millions
00:19:09.880 and millions of dollars.
00:19:11.580 But the worst case
00:19:12.500 to me has been
00:19:13.640 the one of Trevor Toome
00:19:15.360 and Jennifer Winter.
00:19:17.640 Yeah,
00:19:17.820 and it's frustrating
00:19:18.800 to watch.
00:19:19.660 I mean,
00:19:19.880 is the public,
00:19:20.640 you know,
00:19:20.860 on the ground?
00:19:21.520 We're relying on people
00:19:22.500 like you and Mr. Toome
00:19:23.640 and others
00:19:24.240 to hopefully,
00:19:25.100 you know,
00:19:25.320 filter this information
00:19:26.080 to us
00:19:26.540 so we can understand
00:19:27.380 these bigger issues.
00:19:28.460 And by the way,
00:19:29.000 Trevor Toome
00:19:29.440 is a good economist.
00:19:31.100 It's just
00:19:31.460 every time
00:19:32.700 he goes into food,
00:19:35.700 his work is questionable.
00:19:37.760 If I were Trevor,
00:19:38.780 I would stick to
00:19:39.680 what I'm good at
00:19:40.800 and that's certainly
00:19:41.420 not food.
00:19:42.780 Well,
00:19:43.220 and we'll stick
00:19:43.820 to that with you.
00:19:44.480 I mean,
00:19:44.600 you are the food professor.
00:19:45.700 That is your specialty
00:19:46.400 and it's a unique,
00:19:48.140 almost niche
00:19:48.840 and an important one.
00:19:50.040 We don't have enough
00:19:50.760 covering that.
00:19:51.900 I mean,
00:19:52.000 it's something
00:19:52.320 we all have to purchase
00:19:53.320 that impacts
00:19:53.820 all of our lives.
00:19:54.680 So kind of further
00:19:56.040 along the same line
00:19:56.940 when we're talking
00:19:57.500 about the tariff war,
00:19:59.980 I mean,
00:20:00.260 people talk about
00:20:01.040 imposing tariffs
00:20:02.000 on incoming American goods
00:20:03.720 to try and,
00:20:04.560 you know,
00:20:05.060 retaliate.
00:20:05.780 I understand
00:20:06.560 the sentiment behind it,
00:20:08.480 but at the same time,
00:20:09.780 people have better understand
00:20:10.720 that it is going to
00:20:11.940 really impact
00:20:12.720 your local price
00:20:13.700 of food products.
00:20:14.700 I mean,
00:20:15.160 even if you're becoming
00:20:15.840 selective and trying
00:20:16.600 to buy local.
00:20:17.840 Oh,
00:20:17.920 absolutely.
00:20:18.660 So it's important
00:20:19.920 for people to have choice
00:20:21.340 and affordable choice,
00:20:22.360 but it's also,
00:20:23.120 I think,
00:20:23.340 important to perhaps
00:20:24.640 offer industry
00:20:25.660 the carrot approach.
00:20:27.800 I've always believed
00:20:28.620 that carbon markets
00:20:30.200 are an opportunity
00:20:31.560 for the agro-fee sector
00:20:33.220 to do better.
00:20:34.140 We are in Canada.
00:20:35.120 We got land.
00:20:35.840 We got resources.
00:20:36.900 We can do better.
00:20:38.820 It's just right now
00:20:39.900 we have a regime
00:20:41.200 in Ottawa
00:20:41.640 treating carbon
00:20:42.600 as a stick
00:20:44.800 and only a stick
00:20:46.320 and I don't think
00:20:47.360 that farmers deserve that.
00:20:48.820 I don't think
00:20:49.180 that food manufacturers
00:20:50.420 deserve that as well.
00:20:51.660 We've never been strategic
00:20:52.960 and we've never actually
00:20:54.040 had a conversation
00:20:54.940 about that.
00:20:56.280 And frankly,
00:20:56.780 because we know
00:20:58.100 that some provinces,
00:21:00.060 some regions
00:21:01.580 do prefer certain models
00:21:03.760 around the environment
00:21:04.800 and, you know,
00:21:05.980 there's a lot of talk
00:21:06.680 about inter-provincial barriers
00:21:08.920 these days
00:21:09.600 and certainly,
00:21:11.660 to me,
00:21:13.020 environmental stewardship
00:21:13.820 is another one.
00:21:15.220 It's invisible,
00:21:16.200 but I think
00:21:16.780 all regions
00:21:17.740 have a different approach
00:21:18.780 to environmental stewardship.
00:21:20.440 Where you are,
00:21:21.660 carbon capture
00:21:22.520 is a big deal
00:21:23.640 and I think
00:21:24.140 there's a lot
00:21:24.740 of opportunities
00:21:25.460 for carbon capture
00:21:26.920 but central Canada,
00:21:29.180 they don't value
00:21:30.060 carbon capture.
00:21:30.960 All they value
00:21:31.760 is the stick
00:21:33.100 and that's unfortunate.
00:21:34.800 Well,
00:21:35.420 and I guess
00:21:35.980 I'll segue into
00:21:37.380 we're talking about
00:21:38.000 regional disparity
00:21:39.280 and inter-provincial trade
00:21:40.840 and boy,
00:21:41.740 you really poked
00:21:42.400 the hornet's nest
00:21:43.000 but I'm sure
00:21:43.480 you knew you wouldn't
00:21:44.300 when you went
00:21:45.300 and dared
00:21:45.800 to question
00:21:46.880 Canada's Dairy Supply
00:21:48.640 Management
00:21:49.120 on a Quebec broadcast
00:21:51.200 of all places.
00:21:53.540 And it's not just
00:21:54.720 one show.
00:21:55.360 I mean,
00:21:55.560 Tumon Apali
00:21:56.240 is their show
00:21:56.700 that he's watched a lot.
00:21:58.100 So,
00:21:58.640 if you want to get elected
00:21:59.380 in Quebec,
00:22:00.020 you've got to go
00:22:00.500 on that show.
00:22:01.160 If you want
00:22:01.700 to raise money
00:22:02.680 to do anything,
00:22:04.000 you've got to go
00:22:04.600 on that show.
00:22:05.340 So,
00:22:05.480 I've been on that show
00:22:06.280 three times
00:22:07.220 and,
00:22:08.280 you know,
00:22:08.520 the first time
00:22:09.020 I was pretty nervous.
00:22:10.040 The second time around
00:22:10.860 I was a little more
00:22:11.860 acquainted.
00:22:13.480 Last weekend
00:22:14.180 I was very comfortable
00:22:15.160 but I had only one goal
00:22:17.000 it was to raise
00:22:17.720 the issue of supply management
00:22:18.820 because I was in Quebec.
00:22:20.520 I was in the middle
00:22:21.360 of supply management
00:22:22.740 country
00:22:23.580 and I wanted to be clear
00:22:25.160 that if we want
00:22:26.300 to create
00:22:26.760 a free flooring
00:22:27.960 market in Canada,
00:22:29.080 if we really believe it,
00:22:30.940 if we want to do it,
00:22:32.600 in the agri-food sector
00:22:33.860 there's no other way
00:22:35.180 to do it
00:22:35.800 other than looking
00:22:36.940 at marketing boards
00:22:38.740 provincially
00:22:39.560 because they have
00:22:40.460 a lot of power.
00:22:41.320 They're the one
00:22:41.900 allocating quotas.
00:22:43.780 A lot of people
00:22:44.940 think it's all
00:22:46.020 about the federal government.
00:22:47.100 No,
00:22:47.300 it's actually
00:22:47.720 provincial governments
00:22:48.780 that actually allocate quotas
00:22:50.340 and that needs
00:22:51.440 to be discussed
00:22:52.200 especially right now
00:22:53.320 in light of what's
00:22:54.080 happening with the U.S.
00:22:55.720 Well,
00:22:56.440 as well,
00:22:57.200 I mean,
00:22:57.460 that system in general
00:22:58.760 along with actually
00:22:59.940 we've had some
00:23:00.760 pretty heavy tariffs
00:23:01.680 on our dairy products
00:23:02.840 for quite some time
00:23:03.980 or incoming dairy products
00:23:05.160 to try and protect
00:23:05.820 the Canadian market.
00:23:08.020 I appreciate your blasphemy
00:23:09.840 taking it out there
00:23:10.760 but there's no better time
00:23:13.200 maybe to discuss this.
00:23:14.240 I mean,
00:23:14.340 if we're going to talk about
00:23:15.200 well,
00:23:15.400 how can we be Team Canada?
00:23:16.640 How can we be more self-reliant?
00:23:19.040 How can we
00:23:19.820 explore other markets?
00:23:21.860 Or how can we get out
00:23:22.900 of trade issues,
00:23:23.860 trade challenges?
00:23:25.360 The arrow keeps pointing
00:23:26.680 towards supply management.
00:23:27.900 I mean,
00:23:28.000 are we finally ready
00:23:29.100 as Canadians
00:23:29.660 to just start critically
00:23:30.780 looking at it?
00:23:31.760 Well,
00:23:32.000 I mean,
00:23:32.240 I'll give you one example.
00:23:33.540 Let's say you're in Alberta
00:23:34.460 and you're operating
00:23:35.360 a provincially licensed
00:23:36.680 abattoir or slaughterhouse
00:23:38.300 or manufacturing plant.
00:23:39.760 You cannot export
00:23:41.040 in other provinces
00:23:42.760 right now
00:23:43.560 because there's
00:23:44.620 no mutual recognition
00:23:45.940 which is ridiculous.
00:23:48.000 But as soon as you raise
00:23:49.200 the issue
00:23:49.700 of mutual recognition
00:23:50.820 in say,
00:23:52.120 beef
00:23:52.560 or pork
00:23:53.760 or with other commodities,
00:23:55.700 people will say,
00:23:57.100 well,
00:23:57.340 what about dairy?
00:23:58.400 What about eggs?
00:23:59.500 What about poultry?
00:24:01.440 Now,
00:24:01.720 poultry and eggs
00:24:02.460 have actually done
00:24:03.080 a pretty good job
00:24:04.000 working together.
00:24:06.400 Many boards
00:24:07.080 do work together.
00:24:07.920 Like right now,
00:24:08.680 there's a shortage
00:24:09.240 of eggs in BC
00:24:10.580 while Alberta
00:24:11.620 is helping BC.
00:24:12.960 So there's that.
00:24:14.000 But in dairy,
00:24:15.600 dairy,
00:24:16.140 Corey,
00:24:16.540 it's been terrible.
00:24:18.040 It's been very divisive.
00:24:19.960 The DFO,
00:24:20.900 the Dairy Farmers of Ontario,
00:24:22.340 they don't talk
00:24:23.060 to the UPA
00:24:23.720 which represents
00:24:25.020 dairy farmers in Quebec
00:24:26.060 and these silos
00:24:27.720 are incredibly difficult
00:24:29.520 to crack
00:24:30.200 and I think it's time
00:24:31.240 to have it done.
00:24:32.200 The easy thing to do
00:24:35.580 is to create
00:24:37.760 a federal system
00:24:39.000 to reallocate quotas.
00:24:41.720 There's an easy fig.
00:24:44.200 That's the only thing
00:24:45.160 you can do.
00:24:45.880 But the problem,
00:24:47.060 once you do that,
00:24:48.780 guess what's going to happen
00:24:49.560 to the value of quotas
00:24:50.820 in Quebec?
00:24:53.780 They're going to drop.
00:24:55.020 Like significantly.
00:24:56.120 And that's their
00:24:56.660 number one asset.
00:24:58.080 So that's why
00:24:58.540 Quebec farmers
00:24:59.240 have no appetite
00:25:00.400 to actually talk about this.
00:25:02.320 They're a very effective lobby.
00:25:04.200 I mean,
00:25:04.660 they're very active online.
00:25:06.140 They're active directly
00:25:06.960 with politicians.
00:25:08.080 They're active
00:25:08.720 all around.
00:25:10.280 I mean,
00:25:10.640 as you've expressed online,
00:25:12.320 the...
00:25:12.720 If you allow
00:25:14.020 Albertans
00:25:15.120 to buy quotas
00:25:16.200 from Quebec tomorrow,
00:25:17.500 I bet you
00:25:18.060 there'll be tons
00:25:18.740 of them doing that.
00:25:20.520 And Quebec
00:25:21.460 will be out of quota
00:25:22.220 because there's no wealth there.
00:25:23.320 Farms are very,
00:25:24.500 very small.
00:25:25.640 They're not competitive.
00:25:26.880 But we're all paying for that.
00:25:28.960 And with trades,
00:25:29.700 we're paying for that as well.
00:25:31.560 It makes us look really bad
00:25:33.440 and bad players
00:25:34.560 as well internationally.
00:25:36.360 And you got a heck
00:25:37.320 of a blast
00:25:37.900 of bad feedback,
00:25:38.740 unfortunately,
00:25:39.700 for daring to chip away.
00:25:41.820 But I'll tell you what,
00:25:43.420 I've been doing this
00:25:44.160 for 25 years, Corey.
00:25:45.840 So yes,
00:25:46.360 I did get some insults,
00:25:47.860 which is really typical.
00:25:49.140 But I'm getting
00:25:50.360 a lot of supportive emails.
00:25:52.520 Like,
00:25:53.140 I can't believe it.
00:25:55.840 Something's happening, Corey.
00:25:57.600 Something is going on.
00:25:58.860 I think people
00:25:59.320 are starting to recognize
00:26:00.280 that we need perhaps,
00:26:01.940 perhaps,
00:26:03.260 supply management
00:26:03.920 and the dairy system
00:26:05.340 that we have in Canada
00:26:06.160 is not working for us.
00:26:08.080 I think the message
00:26:08.900 is starting to resonate.
00:26:10.340 Well,
00:26:10.500 the conversation's starting,
00:26:11.560 and I really appreciate you
00:26:12.920 bringing it to the fore.
00:26:13.900 As I said,
00:26:14.360 it's not the easy route
00:26:15.500 to take.
00:26:16.040 I mean,
00:26:16.220 you want to avoid
00:26:16.920 the headaches,
00:26:17.380 the flack and everything else.
00:26:18.580 You just stick to other subjects,
00:26:19.740 but you're not giving up on it.
00:26:21.740 And I really appreciate that.
00:26:23.640 I know you've got
00:26:24.040 a hard deadline today.
00:26:24.980 So before I let you go,
00:26:26.220 where can people find,
00:26:27.440 you know,
00:26:27.860 your work
00:26:28.340 and where you've been
00:26:29.080 speaking up and such?
00:26:31.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:26:31.740 So we're on X.
00:26:34.500 You can just look up
00:26:35.500 The Food Professor,
00:26:36.620 Food Professor.
00:26:38.200 I'm on LinkedIn,
00:26:39.300 of course,
00:26:39.780 and we have a podcast
00:26:40.820 called The Food Professor Podcast.
00:26:42.560 It's available
00:26:43.500 on Simplecast,
00:26:47.140 Apple,
00:26:49.280 Shopify,
00:26:50.540 and all the platforms
00:26:53.480 you're familiar with.
00:26:54.840 And so you can find out
00:26:56.860 all sorts of things
00:26:57.680 we're working on.
00:26:58.920 Well,
00:26:59.220 that's excellent,
00:26:59.860 Doctor.
00:27:00.200 Thank you again
00:27:01.060 for coming on the show again
00:27:02.580 and keep up the good fight.
00:27:04.200 Watching with interest,
00:27:05.360 as I said earlier,
00:27:06.240 we've got some crazy times happening,
00:27:08.220 but sometimes some good outcomes
00:27:09.360 can actually come out
00:27:10.160 of the insanity
00:27:10.680 if we could just think
00:27:11.460 rationally through it.
00:27:13.140 Exactly.
00:27:14.020 Thanks for inviting me, Corey.
00:27:15.380 Thank you.
00:27:16.940 So yeah, guys,
00:27:17.740 check them out.
00:27:18.520 As you can see,
00:27:19.160 yeah,
00:27:19.280 The Food Professor on X
00:27:21.560 and as well,
00:27:23.440 yes,
00:27:23.700 the podcast,
00:27:24.900 you know,
00:27:25.200 it's The Food Professor's Podcast.
00:27:26.860 You can get more extended discussion
00:27:28.580 on these things.
00:27:29.200 These issues are big
00:27:30.100 and you know,
00:27:30.600 things I don't like,
00:27:31.420 that's for sure.
00:27:32.300 And I hate,
00:27:33.640 one of the things I don't like
00:27:34.320 is puns actually,
00:27:35.260 but I can't help it
00:27:36.380 when it comes to supply management,
00:27:37.980 it is a sacred cow
00:27:39.200 and I don't,
00:27:39.700 you know,
00:27:39.840 it's the unintentional pun.
00:27:41.780 I can't stand sacred cows.
00:27:43.340 Why?
00:27:43.720 Why do we,
00:27:44.340 can we not even discuss it?
00:27:46.160 Dr. Charlebaugh was pretty polite about it,
00:27:48.240 but he got just blasted
00:27:50.520 for going into that issue
00:27:51.620 and they're very protective
00:27:52.720 and I mean,
00:27:53.220 I'm on X.
00:27:53.900 Those who know me on there,
00:27:54.920 Corey B. Morgan,
00:27:55.700 by the way,
00:27:56.000 if you really want to get into
00:27:56.920 the discussions of the fights,
00:27:57.880 that's my favorite playground.
00:27:59.500 But you can tell
00:28:01.180 they're searching the terms,
00:28:02.600 they're watching for it
00:28:03.780 and when supply management
00:28:04.940 comes up,
00:28:06.220 the defenders of it
00:28:07.120 come out of the woodwork
00:28:08.040 and they're vicious.
00:28:09.200 They are,
00:28:10.320 yes,
00:28:10.680 speaking of protectionist
00:28:11.700 and protective.
00:28:12.640 Why?
00:28:13.100 And it's not a mistake.
00:28:14.660 It's organized.
00:28:16.120 I mean,
00:28:16.320 these are dairy cartels
00:28:17.500 and it's not an exaggeration.
00:28:19.220 I know they're not
00:28:19.800 ruthless,
00:28:20.720 murderous cartels
00:28:21.540 like we saw in Colombia
00:28:22.380 with cocaine,
00:28:22.940 but it's the same thing.
00:28:23.920 It's a small group
00:28:25.680 that fixes
00:28:26.460 and controls the prices
00:28:27.700 and people don't understand
00:28:29.660 and realize
00:28:31.360 which supply management
00:28:32.740 is often enough
00:28:33.700 because again,
00:28:34.120 people are afraid
00:28:34.860 to discuss it.
00:28:35.540 It doesn't come up enough.
00:28:37.160 This is the system
00:28:37.880 in Canada, guys.
00:28:39.540 Governments provincially
00:28:40.500 issue quotas.
00:28:42.520 If you're a dairy farmer,
00:28:44.080 it is illegal
00:28:45.380 for you to produce
00:28:47.480 and sell a dairy product
00:28:48.940 without the government
00:28:50.040 issued quota for it.
00:28:51.800 If you sell more than that,
00:28:53.500 you will be charged.
00:28:55.240 That's how that works.
00:28:56.640 So they strangle
00:28:57.460 the amount of supply
00:28:59.060 so that they can artificially
00:29:00.740 keep the prices higher.
00:29:02.860 It's the opposite
00:29:03.780 of competition
00:29:04.460 and I get so frustrated
00:29:05.780 when I get conservatives,
00:29:08.240 people who call themselves
00:29:09.140 conservatives
00:29:09.540 saying that it's a good system.
00:29:10.860 It's not.
00:29:11.860 It's Soviet style.
00:29:13.160 It's as anti-capitalist,
00:29:14.820 anti-free market
00:29:16.220 as you could possibly get.
00:29:18.680 It really is.
00:29:19.920 And I get frustrated
00:29:21.460 with dairy farmers
00:29:22.980 get all upset
00:29:23.900 and everything.
00:29:24.460 Oh, we do a great job.
00:29:25.420 If you're doing
00:29:26.200 that great a job
00:29:26.960 and I'm sure
00:29:27.320 some of them are,
00:29:28.580 then you shouldn't need
00:29:29.620 to illegalize
00:29:30.860 the competition
00:29:31.480 and that's what they do.
00:29:32.740 And one of the things
00:29:33.440 that came up a lot,
00:29:35.040 if you might remember
00:29:35.580 a few years ago,
00:29:36.320 boy, they suppressed
00:29:37.220 that fast
00:29:37.680 and nobody can get
00:29:38.240 a quote from him
00:29:38.880 or talk to him anymore.
00:29:40.620 He got shoved off
00:29:41.920 to the sideline,
00:29:42.560 which is almost scary.
00:29:43.760 There was a dairy farmer
00:29:44.540 who showed a video
00:29:46.380 of thousands
00:29:47.440 and thousands
00:29:47.960 of gallons of milk
00:29:48.800 being dumped
00:29:49.260 in the drain
00:29:49.900 and it really gave
00:29:51.720 the visual to people
00:29:52.540 of just what's going
00:29:53.480 on with supply management.
00:29:55.060 And of course,
00:29:55.540 the supply management
00:29:56.200 loons went nuts,
00:29:57.320 but it was true
00:29:58.220 because you see,
00:29:59.180 again, he had produced,
00:30:00.160 he'd done a really good job,
00:30:01.200 the cattle were fed well,
00:30:03.360 you know,
00:30:03.600 the milk was flowing,
00:30:04.620 but the problem was
00:30:05.320 it was illegal
00:30:05.780 for him to sell
00:30:06.420 any more than
00:30:07.020 what his quota was,
00:30:08.200 so he had to dump
00:30:09.220 it down the drain.
00:30:10.140 There was nothing else
00:30:10.740 he could do.
00:30:11.080 They can't make cheese
00:30:11.760 with it and put it,
00:30:12.900 you know,
00:30:13.000 sell it somewhere else.
00:30:13.900 You can't give it
00:30:14.600 to a food bank.
00:30:15.440 You can't sell it
00:30:16.340 at a roadside milk stand.
00:30:18.260 You have to dump
00:30:19.060 at the ditch.
00:30:19.620 Some places might
00:30:20.340 feed it to pigs.
00:30:22.000 And, you know,
00:30:22.520 my wife grew up
00:30:23.420 in a dairy farm.
00:30:24.080 Her father had a
00:30:24.820 very small one.
00:30:25.800 You know,
00:30:25.920 back in those days,
00:30:26.540 the farms were a lot smaller.
00:30:28.140 He had a quota
00:30:28.860 for cream,
00:30:29.880 but not for milk.
00:30:32.000 And so, yeah,
00:30:32.560 he would skim the cream,
00:30:33.660 sell that,
00:30:34.080 it would supplement
00:30:34.500 the family farm,
00:30:35.640 and then you could
00:30:36.080 feed the family
00:30:36.740 some of the milk,
00:30:38.100 and otherwise,
00:30:38.700 you had to dump it.
00:30:40.060 You had to dump it.
00:30:41.400 What a stupid,
00:30:43.040 ridiculous system,
00:30:43.840 and we're still
00:30:44.480 defending it.
00:30:45.440 And this system
00:30:46.360 costs us
00:30:47.060 in a lot more ways
00:30:47.980 because others are saying
00:30:48.740 it's protecting
00:30:49.160 the family farm.
00:30:49.920 That's baloney.
00:30:50.720 The stats are
00:30:51.460 very clear right there.
00:30:52.880 In 1991,
00:30:53.660 we had some over
00:30:54.260 60,000 dairy farms
00:30:56.080 in Canada.
00:30:57.200 Now we've got 9,000
00:30:58.560 because these quotas
00:31:00.700 have become a commodity
00:31:01.820 in and of themselves.
00:31:03.760 Only very wealthy farmers,
00:31:06.520 large operations,
00:31:07.680 can afford
00:31:08.180 to buy up these quotas.
00:31:09.880 So the little guys
00:31:10.720 get crushed.
00:31:11.420 They get wiped out.
00:31:13.020 You can't open
00:31:13.840 a little cottage
00:31:14.740 industry dairy.
00:31:15.480 You can't open
00:31:15.980 a 50-cow dairy
00:31:17.500 and maybe just
00:31:18.240 make your own cheese
00:31:19.240 or do a few
00:31:19.820 small side things
00:31:20.500 because you would
00:31:20.860 have to get those
00:31:21.340 quotas,
00:31:21.680 and it's too high
00:31:22.220 priced.
00:31:23.120 So don't feed me
00:31:23.920 that baloney
00:31:24.620 that this system
00:31:25.480 supports the small
00:31:27.120 family farm.
00:31:27.740 It's totally the
00:31:28.460 opposite.
00:31:29.240 It's killing
00:31:29.840 the family farm.
00:31:31.520 And as Sylvain said,
00:31:32.760 let's start,
00:31:33.720 just start even,
00:31:35.740 with ripping down
00:31:36.600 then the provincial
00:31:37.160 barriers and just
00:31:38.240 let this get spread
00:31:39.140 across the whole
00:31:40.080 country.
00:31:40.480 Because isn't it
00:31:41.160 interesting with
00:31:42.360 Quebec, and I can't
00:31:43.020 remember what it is,
00:31:43.620 they got something
00:31:44.000 like 30%,
00:31:45.080 I might be corrected
00:31:46.240 by one of the
00:31:46.600 commenters,
00:31:46.980 about 30% or 40%
00:31:48.140 of Canada's dairy
00:31:49.920 industry is there,
00:31:51.680 even though they only
00:31:52.240 make up about 18%
00:31:53.580 of our population.
00:31:54.800 So it makes it a
00:31:55.460 hot-button issue,
00:31:56.560 of course,
00:31:57.040 because no federal
00:32:00.300 politician ever wants
00:32:01.240 to upset Quebec.
00:32:02.620 I mean, that's speaking
00:32:03.420 of sacred cows
00:32:04.180 within Canada, right?
00:32:05.160 They won't touch it.
00:32:06.360 I've had Polyab on
00:32:07.200 this show before,
00:32:08.240 and I asked him
00:32:08.840 about it before,
00:32:09.760 I appreciate his
00:32:10.600 honesty, he said
00:32:11.500 we won't touch it,
00:32:12.680 but I still would
00:32:13.420 rather he was honest
00:32:14.220 in saying it's time
00:32:14.820 to take it on.
00:32:15.540 And is there not a
00:32:16.160 better time than
00:32:16.700 right now?
00:32:18.040 So Trump is well
00:32:19.340 aware that dairy
00:32:20.220 supply management
00:32:20.880 system, I mean,
00:32:23.480 as I said earlier,
00:32:24.600 we've got tariffs,
00:32:25.820 Sylvain pointed that
00:32:26.760 out, you really
00:32:27.260 should follow them
00:32:27.800 on X, on some of
00:32:28.860 our stuff like
00:32:29.180 American butter
00:32:29.940 coming up to
00:32:30.640 Canada, and it's
00:32:31.200 something like a
00:32:31.620 325% tariff we
00:32:33.580 put on it to
00:32:34.200 protect our local
00:32:34.860 dairy industries.
00:32:36.320 It's absurd.
00:32:37.200 Look at all of
00:32:38.980 that great growing,
00:32:40.680 grazing, agricultural
00:32:42.140 land all across
00:32:43.620 the prairies.
00:32:45.100 Why isn't it
00:32:45.700 loaded with dairy
00:32:46.360 productions?
00:32:47.980 Well, because we
00:32:49.740 can't get the
00:32:50.440 quotas, they're all
00:32:51.260 in Quebec.
00:32:52.480 It's got to stop.
00:32:53.980 It's got to stop.
00:32:54.920 So Sylvain's
00:32:55.780 chipping at that.
00:32:56.520 Again, if we want
00:32:57.160 to be Team
00:32:57.840 Canada, Team
00:32:59.340 Canada needs to
00:33:02.100 tell Quebec to
00:33:02.840 go to hell.
00:33:03.860 That's the blunt
00:33:05.180 truth about it on
00:33:06.480 every level because
00:33:07.800 they aren't Team
00:33:08.340 Canada, they're Team
00:33:09.120 Quebec.
00:33:09.640 And you know what?
00:33:10.220 They've always been,
00:33:11.060 they're unapologetic
00:33:12.020 about it.
00:33:12.720 But that's enough.
00:33:13.920 As we talked about,
00:33:14.620 people realize, oh my
00:33:16.000 Lord, we're so
00:33:16.880 vulnerable as
00:33:17.440 Canadians now that we
00:33:18.120 got President Trump
00:33:18.840 jumping all over us
00:33:19.600 with tariffs and
00:33:20.260 pushing us around and
00:33:21.240 making demands.
00:33:22.760 Yes.
00:33:23.960 How would we become
00:33:24.960 more independent from
00:33:25.780 that?
00:33:26.540 Well, and some of them
00:33:27.440 realize, well, if we
00:33:28.080 got oil and gas
00:33:29.240 products to the coast,
00:33:30.140 those things that that
00:33:30.780 idiot Trudeau has been
00:33:31.660 fighting for 10 years,
00:33:32.820 that moron, we would be
00:33:35.220 able to say, well,
00:33:35.700 fine, we're going to
00:33:36.260 take our oil and gas,
00:33:37.080 we're going to sell it
00:33:37.520 to Europe, we're going
00:33:37.940 to sell it to Asia,
00:33:38.500 we're going to sell it
00:33:38.900 to India.
00:33:39.280 India's got the biggest
00:33:40.280 oil refinery on Earth.
00:33:42.140 We could be shipping it
00:33:42.940 there.
00:33:43.180 But what did we get?
00:33:44.560 Trudeau banned tankers.
00:33:46.300 He shut down the
00:33:47.180 Northern Gateway pipeline.
00:33:48.420 He regulated energy
00:33:49.500 east to death.
00:33:51.260 But now they're finally
00:33:52.340 realizing, some of them
00:33:53.520 saying, we better get
00:33:55.540 these pipes to the
00:33:56.860 coast.
00:33:58.020 Yes.
00:33:58.460 But guess who popped up
00:33:59.520 right away and said, no,
00:34:00.540 no, no, no, that's not
00:34:01.360 going to happen.
00:34:02.340 Quebec.
00:34:03.400 They said they're not
00:34:03.840 going to allow it.
00:34:04.260 So now you don't hear
00:34:05.440 it from the federal
00:34:05.840 politicians anymore.
00:34:07.020 Okay.
00:34:07.660 So now we're just going
00:34:08.340 to keep, and you know
00:34:09.200 what, 97% of our oil and
00:34:12.200 gas exports, the stuff
00:34:13.100 that actually leaves the
00:34:13.900 country, goes to the
00:34:14.880 USA.
00:34:15.820 And we get discounted on
00:34:17.600 it because of that.
00:34:18.540 When you only have one
00:34:19.500 customer, you're screwed.
00:34:23.440 It's a huge, huge issue.
00:34:26.200 But the big sticking point
00:34:28.060 is always Quebec.
00:34:30.160 Are we a country or not?
00:34:31.640 Look, I've always been an
00:34:33.940 advocate for independence.
00:34:34.980 That's nothing new out of
00:34:35.600 me.
00:34:36.540 So if we're not, fine,
00:34:38.860 let's move on with it.
00:34:39.660 Let's break into separate
00:34:40.460 regions.
00:34:40.880 Let's make our own trade
00:34:41.580 deals.
00:34:41.860 Let's get on with it.
00:34:42.780 Cut our own deals to get
00:34:46.180 our products to the coast.
00:34:47.900 Another area, you know,
00:34:48.880 realizing our ports.
00:34:52.800 Thanks again, Trudeau.
00:34:55.020 Vancouver has, it's a
00:34:56.240 busy, busy port, but it's
00:34:57.340 also the second slowest,
00:34:58.980 most efficient, inefficient
00:35:00.360 port on earth for
00:35:01.920 shipping.
00:35:02.660 A lot of Canadian
00:35:03.300 products actually end up
00:35:04.040 going to Seattle and then
00:35:05.200 they'll bring it up to
00:35:05.740 Canada because Vancouver's
00:35:06.880 so bad.
00:35:07.200 Why is Vancouver so bad?
00:35:08.360 Well, because it's been
00:35:08.920 year after year after year
00:35:10.720 of labor strife.
00:35:12.260 The unions are constantly
00:35:13.460 going on strike and
00:35:14.540 holding up the ports and
00:35:15.700 they're corrupt as hell
00:35:16.440 out there, guys.
00:35:17.960 So one of the things
00:35:19.760 they've been fighting is
00:35:20.480 automation.
00:35:21.220 No, we've got to keep
00:35:21.840 those bodies working.
00:35:22.800 So no, we will make it
00:35:23.440 illegal to upgrade.
00:35:24.760 I mean, why don't we just
00:35:25.300 get horses and carriages,
00:35:26.380 you clowns?
00:35:26.840 I mean, the Teamsters would
00:35:27.540 be happy enough to see
00:35:28.280 that, wouldn't they?
00:35:28.780 We've got to take some
00:35:30.480 things on here.
00:35:31.520 If you want to increase
00:35:32.980 our ability to export or
00:35:34.820 import other goods, we've
00:35:36.760 got to take on Quebec and
00:35:38.140 we've got to take on those
00:35:38.940 unions.
00:35:39.320 Why are the unions suddenly
00:35:40.460 so strong?
00:35:41.460 I mean, they've always been
00:35:42.160 strong, but why more so?
00:35:44.020 Because Prime Minister
00:35:44.940 Dingbat cut a deal with
00:35:46.540 Jagmeet Singh where any
00:35:48.640 federally regulated industry,
00:35:51.380 it is now illegal for them
00:35:52.820 to have replacement workers
00:35:54.260 if there's a strike.
00:35:55.680 Well, that just gave all of
00:35:57.320 the power to the unions,
00:35:58.880 all of it.
00:35:59.960 So because of ports,
00:36:01.600 Teamsters, all of that,
00:36:02.560 that's all federally
00:36:03.800 regulated.
00:36:04.400 So when those clowns go on
00:36:05.280 strike and they're
00:36:05.740 constantly going on strike,
00:36:07.880 port authorities are
00:36:08.560 screwed.
00:36:09.240 They can't, they are
00:36:10.420 immediately shut down.
00:36:11.780 You can't even get
00:36:12.420 somebody to unload a
00:36:13.360 container until this
00:36:14.780 thing is over.
00:36:15.700 That's ridiculous.
00:36:16.560 It's putting all the
00:36:17.520 power on one side.
00:36:19.060 So again, if we want to
00:36:22.480 become less reliant on the
00:36:23.900 United States, less
00:36:24.660 dependent, less pushed
00:36:25.580 around the other big port,
00:36:26.860 guess where it's at?
00:36:27.640 Montreal.
00:36:29.260 But until you get those
00:36:30.480 unions in line, we're not
00:36:32.680 going to up that.
00:36:33.720 So we're talking a great
00:36:36.020 game, Team Canada, but
00:36:38.040 we're playing crap.
00:36:39.700 We're playing terribly.
00:36:40.660 So yes, all the premiers are
00:36:41.640 down in Washington, but what
00:36:42.640 can they offer?
00:36:43.820 When President Trump says,
00:36:44.800 fine, but I want to see free
00:36:45.720 access for dairy, they said,
00:36:46.640 no, we can't do that.
00:36:47.820 Okay.
00:36:48.560 Well, here come your tariffs.
00:36:50.540 What are we going to do?
00:36:51.720 What are we going to do about
00:36:52.360 it?
00:36:52.620 Nothing.
00:36:52.820 We lost a big deal with
00:36:54.200 the UK over the supply
00:36:55.380 management the other year
00:36:56.720 as well over Canadian
00:36:57.960 cheese going out.
00:36:59.220 Yeah, really stupid
00:37:00.360 Canadian cheese.
00:37:04.100 So we were blocking UK
00:37:05.980 cheese, I think was the
00:37:06.940 deal or something.
00:37:07.520 Either way, an entire
00:37:08.420 trade deal with the United
00:37:09.680 Kingdom fell apart over
00:37:10.960 cheese because our
00:37:12.760 politicians are such
00:37:13.700 pussies.
00:37:14.360 They will not take on
00:37:15.820 Quebec when it comes to
00:37:16.720 supply management.
00:37:18.760 So either get crater,
00:37:20.100 give up, split this
00:37:21.300 country up, or have that
00:37:24.180 federal government assert
00:37:25.040 itself.
00:37:25.260 So people call me out
00:37:25.860 and say, well, what?
00:37:26.340 You suddenly want
00:37:26.860 centralized power?
00:37:27.500 No, no, I don't.
00:37:29.740 But I don't like this
00:37:30.620 double standard, this
00:37:31.320 hybrid, because it's got
00:37:32.080 to be one way or the
00:37:32.600 other.
00:37:33.000 Are we a federation?
00:37:34.160 Because there's only so
00:37:35.060 many benefits you get from
00:37:36.360 being a large federation.
00:37:38.660 One of those is that
00:37:41.180 ability to trade within
00:37:42.340 your federation.
00:37:43.540 That ability to not have
00:37:45.180 another province say, we
00:37:46.240 won't allow your product to
00:37:47.720 come across our turf.
00:37:49.960 That ability to say, your
00:37:51.400 labor can come here and
00:37:52.380 work, or this person can
00:37:53.340 work there, do that.
00:37:55.020 And we don't have that.
00:37:56.640 And the sticking point is
00:37:57.500 almost always Quebec.
00:37:59.100 But I mean, it's all
00:37:59.680 sorts of other things.
00:38:00.560 Don't forget, it was only
00:38:01.520 a few years ago, a guy, I
00:38:02.960 think it was New Brunswick,
00:38:03.760 actually got arrested.
00:38:05.620 Why?
00:38:06.120 Because he bought beer in
00:38:07.200 Quebec and tried to drive
00:38:08.220 into New Brunswick with
00:38:09.100 it.
00:38:09.500 Not across an international
00:38:10.520 border, a provincial border.
00:38:12.120 And he got convicted on it.
00:38:13.880 Then we're not a
00:38:14.440 federation.
00:38:15.060 We are not a proper
00:38:16.380 federation if that happens.
00:38:17.520 We might as well put up
00:38:18.100 borders.
00:38:18.400 Hey, and I'm not fully
00:38:19.480 averse to that.
00:38:21.100 So when you wonder why
00:38:22.300 some people, they might be
00:38:24.480 upset with that 51st state
00:38:25.820 talk and all that and
00:38:26.700 everything going on, but
00:38:27.500 then once they start
00:38:28.100 thinking about it, you
00:38:28.840 know, what are we
00:38:30.740 gaining in not joining the
00:38:33.080 United States, right?
00:38:34.500 So if you guys want to
00:38:35.980 build one central country
00:38:38.100 that's feeling united, you
00:38:39.860 got to take on those
00:38:40.760 Frenchmen.
00:38:41.480 You got to find some
00:38:42.160 courage and you got to lay
00:38:43.360 down the law because our
00:38:44.040 constitution actually makes
00:38:45.100 it very clear.
00:38:45.700 They're not supposed to be
00:38:46.740 able to hinder these
00:38:47.320 things, but you got to
00:38:48.700 have the knackers as a
00:38:50.620 government to take that
00:38:51.400 on.
00:38:51.720 Now we don't even have a
00:38:52.540 government as it is.
00:38:53.900 Even if Trudeau suddenly
00:38:54.720 found courage, he won't
00:38:56.680 have enough time in office
00:38:57.720 to take care of it.
00:38:58.920 And I'm hoping and
00:38:59.940 thinking that Carney, and
00:39:02.100 it's going to be a
00:39:02.560 coronation for him when he
00:39:03.560 gets in, that he's not in
00:39:05.480 for very long.
00:39:06.180 I mean, we're still in
00:39:07.880 flux.
00:39:08.380 You know, what's killing us
00:39:09.260 right now is instability.
00:39:10.520 That's one of the
00:39:11.080 frustrations out of Trump.
00:39:12.000 You just don't know where
00:39:12.660 he's coming from.
00:39:13.420 I mean, businesses hate
00:39:14.920 taxes.
00:39:15.760 Investors hate taxes, but
00:39:17.260 the thing they hate the
00:39:18.000 most is unpredictability,
00:39:20.020 instability.
00:39:20.600 And we don't know.
00:39:21.280 We don't know if we're
00:39:21.800 going to have a
00:39:22.160 tariff on in a couple
00:39:22.920 of weeks or not have a
00:39:23.640 tariff on or which
00:39:24.380 products or which won't.
00:39:25.880 But the other thing we
00:39:26.560 don't have is stability in
00:39:27.780 Ottawa.
00:39:28.180 We don't know who's going
00:39:28.880 to be the bloody prime
00:39:29.640 minister month to month
00:39:30.500 right now.
00:39:31.740 And as I said earlier, it
00:39:34.160 looks to me and the
00:39:35.280 rumors, Singh's going to
00:39:36.460 cut a deal.
00:39:37.240 Carney's going to drag this
00:39:38.140 out all the way until
00:39:39.660 fall, if not longer.
00:39:42.660 Yeah, you know, another
00:39:43.940 scary thought.
00:39:44.900 Constitutionally, Canada,
00:39:46.080 we could drag it out to
00:39:47.120 fall of 2026 before we
00:39:49.040 get the chance to vote.
00:39:50.740 That's how screwed up our
00:39:51.820 system is.
00:39:53.480 And what's going on?
00:39:56.260 Guess what?
00:39:56.700 The liberals are surging
00:39:57.580 in the polls.
00:39:58.300 At first, it looked like
00:39:59.020 it was just crazy Frank
00:39:59.900 Graves, who's always been
00:40:00.960 inconsistent with his
00:40:02.140 ecoist company and very
00:40:03.260 biased.
00:40:03.760 But no, we're starting to
00:40:04.520 see a number of polls now
00:40:05.440 pointing out saying, no,
00:40:06.480 you know what?
00:40:07.800 Canadians actually are
00:40:08.660 kind of warming up to the
00:40:09.560 liberals again.
00:40:10.240 Yeah, all of this, all of
00:40:11.320 this abuse, all of this
00:40:12.240 mess, all these carbon
00:40:13.600 taxes, house prices
00:40:14.920 through the roof, mass
00:40:16.180 immigration screwing up
00:40:17.440 everything.
00:40:18.280 The liberals admitting
00:40:19.320 pretty much that everything
00:40:20.280 we've done in the last 10
00:40:21.300 years has been a screw up.
00:40:23.180 But please forgive us.
00:40:24.200 We won't do it again this
00:40:25.300 time in Ontario and Quebec
00:40:26.460 say, sure, we'll give you
00:40:28.140 another shot.
00:40:28.760 You change the face at the
00:40:29.640 front of you.
00:40:31.460 I don't know if that, you
00:40:33.540 know, we've got crazy times.
00:40:35.200 I think some of that is just
00:40:36.940 again due to people feeling
00:40:38.560 they got to rally around
00:40:39.620 their local leadership in a
00:40:41.180 time when we do have an
00:40:42.060 outside threat.
00:40:42.700 And I get people, you
00:40:44.900 know, upset with me when
00:40:45.760 I'm critical of Trump, but
00:40:46.520 I am critical of Trump
00:40:47.400 too.
00:40:47.760 As I said, the guy's a
00:40:48.520 bull in a China shop and
00:40:49.480 he's using clumsy, stupid
00:40:50.880 economic policies to get
00:40:52.120 what he wants, which in the
00:40:53.780 long run, I don't think is
00:40:54.760 a bright way to do it.
00:40:55.860 And we should push back.
00:40:57.080 We should be upset.
00:40:58.300 We have been assaulted by
00:41:00.100 Trump.
00:41:00.440 We have been demonized by
00:41:01.420 Trump.
00:41:01.820 Trump has been lying.
00:41:02.980 That's nothing new out of
00:41:03.800 Trump.
00:41:04.120 We know that too.
00:41:05.020 People say, oh, it's just
00:41:05.680 part of his negotiation.
00:41:06.340 No, he's lying.
00:41:07.500 And I'm sick of people
00:41:08.180 brushing that aside to
00:41:09.200 think lying should be an
00:41:10.300 acceptable tactic in
00:41:12.020 negotiations with things.
00:41:13.200 And which lie are we
00:41:13.840 talking about?
00:41:14.580 When he keeps going on
00:41:15.540 about how we're subsidizing
00:41:16.520 Canada 200 billion a
00:41:18.540 year.
00:41:18.920 Guys, that's a trade
00:41:19.920 deficit.
00:41:20.520 That's not a subsidy and
00:41:21.900 it needs to be called out
00:41:23.060 all the time.
00:41:26.480 You know, here's one.
00:41:28.400 Sven, oh, the typical
00:41:29.340 Trump, so stupid, eh?
00:41:30.640 No, not stupid, but clumsy.
00:41:32.740 Yes.
00:41:34.000 Unnuanced.
00:41:34.680 Yes.
00:41:35.080 Self-serving.
00:41:36.580 Yes.
00:41:37.760 And he is the man we're
00:41:38.720 going to have to deal with
00:41:39.920 for the next four years.
00:41:44.280 And this is a fun one.
00:41:45.140 See, this is where the fun
00:41:46.080 with the commenters come.
00:41:47.000 So Sven now comes, says
00:41:48.020 the guy at the desk playing
00:41:48.960 like he's some freedom
00:41:49.640 fighter.
00:41:50.340 Wall.
00:41:51.140 Oh, good one, man.
00:41:52.980 Yeah, the guy with his
00:41:54.020 picture on here with his
00:41:55.180 name out there, Sven,
00:41:56.280 anonymous Twitter person.
00:41:58.580 I'm doing more for freedom
00:41:59.760 than you ever bloody have.
00:42:01.340 But that's fine.
00:42:01.920 We can have the
00:42:02.420 discussions.
00:42:03.120 Oh, he's unfollowing me.
00:42:04.780 He's unfollowing me.
00:42:05.800 So there, Sven has laid
00:42:08.180 down the hammer and has
00:42:08.940 unfollowed me.
00:42:10.020 I fear I've only got
00:42:11.980 68,000 others.
00:42:13.860 So this is what the
00:42:15.560 discussion comes to, though.
00:42:16.440 This is what social media
00:42:17.220 does get to the lowest
00:42:18.280 common denominator, right?
00:42:19.860 You know, it gets to the
00:42:21.240 foolishness to the, and hey,
00:42:23.020 I play on X rough all the
00:42:25.220 time.
00:42:25.860 That's the way it goes.
00:42:26.920 But when we're talking about
00:42:27.840 world leaders now, then we
00:42:29.960 got to watch what we're
00:42:30.800 doing.
00:42:31.200 So yes, whatever our leaders,
00:42:34.640 whether they're provincially
00:42:35.460 or federally, are doing, you
00:42:38.600 don't want to roll over to
00:42:39.640 Trump because, yes, again, he's
00:42:41.040 trying to push us into a
00:42:42.440 corner.
00:42:42.840 But at the same time, you've
00:42:43.780 got to get realistic.
00:42:44.540 There's some of the stupid
00:42:45.620 discussion I've seen online as
00:42:47.280 well, right?
00:42:48.060 I mean, people saying we will,
00:42:49.660 you know, we'll get armed and
00:42:51.700 we'll take on the, you know,
00:42:53.060 okay, I mean, even a very
00:42:56.240 respected senior columnist in
00:42:58.940 Calgary recently wrote that
00:43:00.760 Canada's got to beef up its
00:43:02.440 army so we could withstand a
00:43:03.800 possible invasion for the
00:43:04.720 United States.
00:43:05.860 Really?
00:43:07.320 I mean, there's levels and
00:43:08.480 levels of stupid going on
00:43:09.380 here, right?
00:43:10.040 An overreaction and
00:43:10.960 foolishness.
00:43:11.960 For one, there's not going to
00:43:13.400 be a military invasion into
00:43:14.560 Canada.
00:43:14.980 Trump is using economic tools
00:43:16.620 to get what he wants.
00:43:17.940 There's no appetite to come
00:43:19.200 and invade Canada.
00:43:20.760 It's not going to happen.
00:43:21.680 He doesn't need to.
00:43:22.560 I don't believe he wants to,
00:43:23.860 though it is hard to figure
00:43:24.620 out what exactly he ever
00:43:25.940 wants, but it's not going to
00:43:27.160 happen.
00:43:27.740 And the other aspect is get
00:43:29.140 realistic.
00:43:30.860 Get realistic, guys.
00:43:32.600 We might have some great
00:43:33.380 people within our forces, but
00:43:35.020 our forces are piddly.
00:43:37.300 They're next to nothing.
00:43:38.040 They're dysfunctional.
00:43:39.020 They're outdated.
00:43:40.140 And even if it was a good,
00:43:42.160 well-tuned armed forces we
00:43:44.080 had here, it would just be so
00:43:47.180 microscopically small, we
00:43:48.600 would be walked over within
00:43:49.820 days.
00:43:51.000 I listen to Warren Kinsella,
00:43:52.860 a commentator online, a
00:43:54.580 former liberal advisor, and
00:43:55.940 there's some of the funniness
00:43:56.840 out of it because he was
00:43:57.540 putting out the poll online.
00:43:58.660 Would you be willing to take
00:43:59.700 up arms and fight to the
00:44:00.700 death to defend Canada?
00:44:01.840 Nice jingoism, Warren.
00:44:04.260 You were also one of the same
00:44:05.700 buttholes who was pushing for
00:44:07.280 gun control and taking away
00:44:08.680 every rifle from Canadians who
00:44:10.220 wanted them.
00:44:11.480 How would people take up arms
00:44:13.220 if they'd have listened to you
00:44:14.520 and given up their firearms
00:44:15.860 years ago?
00:44:16.520 Well, it wouldn't have
00:44:17.160 happened, right?
00:44:18.900 You guys, sorry, you already
00:44:20.740 blew your chance there.
00:44:23.780 The very people that you berated
00:44:26.300 as rednecks and, you know, the
00:44:28.920 whole works and crazed firearm
00:44:30.700 owners.
00:44:31.200 Now you're saying that Canada can
00:44:32.560 suddenly have some sort of
00:44:33.760 militia, revolutionary type of
00:44:35.740 guard going on here?
00:44:37.180 Not going to happen, Warren.
00:44:39.140 A little consistency.
00:44:40.180 But, well, what are we going to
00:44:45.000 do?
00:44:45.360 They are interesting times.
00:44:46.980 So, let's see.
00:44:48.140 What else have we got going on?
00:44:49.580 At least one thing it'll give
00:44:50.560 Trump, you know, so I see some
00:44:52.380 people howling, oh, I was
00:44:53.460 critical of the orange man.
00:44:54.640 I get over it.
00:44:55.140 I'm going to continue to be
00:44:55.900 critical of the orange man.
00:44:57.160 But I'll give him credit.
00:44:57.900 One thing, he's actually spoken
00:44:59.260 on one of the blasphemies, which
00:45:00.780 is paper straws.
00:45:01.980 He has pointed out how stupid
00:45:03.660 they are, how pointless they are.
00:45:05.620 And he's getting back to
00:45:07.060 plastic.
00:45:07.560 You know what?
00:45:08.580 Hey, power to you.
00:45:10.660 Good.
00:45:11.340 I don't want to see any more
00:45:12.540 paper straws as well.
00:45:13.780 So, Trump's had one solid
00:45:14.780 policy victory.
00:45:15.820 We'll see what happens.
00:45:16.520 We're in for an interesting
00:45:17.240 couple of years yet.
00:45:18.400 All right.
00:45:19.240 Thanks for tuning in.
00:45:20.140 That's the time I got today,
00:45:21.000 guys.
00:45:21.360 The pipeline's going to be on
00:45:22.380 tonight.
00:45:22.660 We'll be up on a panel
00:45:23.380 discussing and breaking down a
00:45:24.680 few more things.
00:45:25.480 Plus, Jen's going to have
00:45:26.340 another episode on Hannaford
00:45:27.860 while Nigel takes a well-deserved
00:45:29.360 break.
00:45:30.120 And I'll be back next week with
00:45:31.740 more discussions, more guests,
00:45:33.480 and more issues.
00:45:34.380 So, thank you for tuning in
00:45:35.440 this week, guys, and we'll see
00:45:36.280 you on the next one.
00:45:40.180 We'll be right back.