Western Standard - February 17, 2026


CORY MORGAN SHOW： It’s time to end all race-based policies


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Corey returns home from his trip to the south and talks with William Barclay about the independence movement and what it means for the future of Canada. He also talks about race-based education in Canada and why it needs to stop.

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00:00:00.000 Good day and welcome to the Corey Morgan Show.
00:00:29.640 As you can see, I'm still wandering in the desert.
00:00:32.900 Actually, this is the last of the shows I'll be doing from down here in the south.
00:00:37.040 I'm with mixed feelings starting to make my way back north to get to my regular life up there.
00:00:43.940 The news certainly hasn't stopped while I was gone.
00:00:46.220 Lots going on, good, bad, and some terrible, terrible, tragic items going on.
00:00:51.640 We'll talk a little bit more about that in the show.
00:00:53.120 Of course, you can't avoid talking about the horrors of what's happened in Tumblr Ridge.
00:00:57.240 And, yeah, lots on the independence front and many other things on the go.
00:01:02.860 In a little bit, I'll be talking with political theorist and columnist William Barclay.
00:01:07.080 He wrote a long column with the Western Standard.
00:01:09.880 He's written a number of them with us, of course.
00:01:11.860 And it's on the independence movement.
00:01:13.220 I'd like to get an eastern perspective on that.
00:01:16.620 William's certainly not heavily opposed to the independence concept.
00:01:19.320 And he's giving his views on what's got behind it and what's powering it.
00:01:25.060 So let's start with my opening monologue.
00:01:29.180 Something, you know, just that we've got to keep on this.
00:01:32.440 So along with being incapable of understanding the basic principles of supply and demand,
00:01:36.900 progressives have a blind spot when it comes to race-based policies.
00:01:40.440 I mean, they consider themselves champions of the downtrodden minorities,
00:01:44.080 yet they support the divisive policies that cause minorities to become downtrodden in the first place.
00:01:49.720 They recognize that race-based policies caused injustice and wrongs for centuries, 0.84
00:01:54.000 yet they feel the way to reconcile those wrongs is to implement more race-based policies.
00:01:58.360 Look, guys, two wrongs do not make a right.
00:02:01.340 And things move in waves and cycles.
00:02:03.700 So diversity, equity, and inclusion, DEI, those policies were trendy for a couple of decades.
00:02:08.880 The policies finally overshot the target.
00:02:11.760 They went too far.
00:02:13.320 And as it became more extreme, the public finally recognized the absurdity of DEI.
00:02:17.040 The pushback began in the private sector.
00:02:19.180 The things like Robbie Starbuck and others pushing large corporations.
00:02:22.620 And those corporations realized these policies were hurting their bottom line.
00:02:26.200 Now, the outrage of progressives was worth enduring
00:02:28.680 as they stripped away entire DEI departments from their corporate headquarters.
00:02:32.720 But now we're seeing something even better.
00:02:34.520 Public institutions departing from DEI policies.
00:02:37.600 The University of Alberta dumping its DEI policies.
00:02:40.760 And boy, some people are outraged, of course.
00:02:43.040 And it must be, so the U of A must be supported in this.
00:02:45.660 Not only that, this movement should be fostered and spread among all institutions,
00:02:50.520 both private and public.
00:02:51.860 We've got to take advantage of the backlash against race-based policies 0.85
00:02:55.100 and strip them from government legislation.
00:02:58.560 From, rest assured, social justice warriors,
00:03:01.280 they're going to immediately begin lobbying and trying to enshrine new race-based policies 0.90
00:03:04.900 as fast as we can get rid of them.
00:03:06.400 If we can go scorched earth now with them, though,
00:03:08.740 it's going to be a slow, insidious creep for them to bring their woke policies back.
00:03:12.220 It could take decades.
00:03:13.500 DEI policies are insulting and detrimental to minorities.
00:03:17.200 The principle of racial equality has been embraced by Western democracies for generations.
00:03:21.880 Having passed the equality hurdle, though,
00:03:24.440 progressives have moved on to the more loosely defined goal of equity.
00:03:27.880 And this is where they assume that even if all rights are equal,
00:03:30.680 some minorities are incapable of succeeding without an extra hand up.
00:03:35.140 That is true racism.
00:03:37.060 And it's ironic how progressives don't understand that they've embraced an ideology no less vile
00:03:42.020 than those of historical segregationists.
00:03:45.020 Slap in the face to people within minorities who've earned success through hard work and merit, 0.83
00:03:49.520 only to have some people start assuming they only excelled
00:03:51.980 due to the racially preferential hiring and lowered standards in education.
00:03:56.720 In Toronto, a race-based, black-only school was opened in 2009
00:04:00.060 to the celebration of progressives.
00:04:02.640 Martin Luther King literally fought and died to end racial segregation
00:04:06.480 in areas including education,
00:04:08.560 only to have fools today entrenching segregation
00:04:11.520 under the banner of equity generations later.
00:04:14.620 Separating black students from everybody else hasn't been a success,
00:04:18.220 considering black students drop out before graduation
00:04:20.140 at a rate 23% higher than other races in Toronto.
00:04:23.240 It didn't work.
00:04:24.200 But since when a progressive lets success or failure
00:04:26.220 stop them from pursuing race-based policies, though, right?
00:04:29.720 The granddaddy of racist policies, of course, is the Indian Act. 0.95
00:04:32.900 Even the name of the Act indicates how out-of-date it is in the modern world.
00:04:36.440 The Act entrenches all sorts of race-based laws 0.92
00:04:38.440 and has done so since 1876.
00:04:41.200 Canada's indigenous people have been lagging the rest of the country
00:04:44.020 in every single measure of standard of living
00:04:46.460 and it's getting worse.
00:04:48.440 Crime, poverty, health issues, domestic violence,
00:04:50.660 low education rates, and high suicide rates
00:04:53.500 are a part of every reserve in Canada
00:04:54.840 and the Indian Act is woven into every part of it.
00:04:57.440 Despite this, progressives fight bitterly
00:04:59.440 against any effort to scrap the Act.
00:05:02.240 In fact, they call people critical of the Act racists.
00:05:05.360 Yeah, they're really that blind to their own thinking.
00:05:07.160 In BC, the government's actually beginning to enshrine
00:05:09.340 a new set of property rights based on race.
00:05:11.220 It's even gone as far as to ban people, non-indigenous people,
00:05:14.340 from public parks.
00:05:16.540 This only increases distrust between cultures
00:05:18.460 and, of course, makes things worse
00:05:20.520 for the already suffering indigenous population.
00:05:23.500 But again, outcomes don't seem to matter to progressives.
00:05:26.600 They've blinded themselves to bizarre, misplaced ideologies
00:05:28.820 wrapped in virtue signaling and identity politics.
00:05:31.600 There's little sense trying to win over the people
00:05:33.120 immersed in Canada's identity politics.
00:05:34.820 They're beyond reason.
00:05:36.020 We can and must cater to the minority of Canadians
00:05:38.160 who are fatigued with watching race-based policies,
00:05:40.540 dividing people while offering no visible benefits to anybody.
00:05:44.220 Aside from some bureaucrats and lawyers
00:05:45.840 who profit from that division, that is.
00:05:47.780 Now, educational institutions are the best place to begin.
00:05:50.240 And the University of Alberta,
00:05:51.620 with them moving away from DEI policies,
00:05:53.400 they can lead the way for others to follow.
00:05:56.040 Make it shameful for any institution,
00:05:58.360 whether public or private,
00:05:59.260 to hold any race-based policies.
00:06:00.880 Let's ride the current wave of public distaste
00:06:03.020 for institutionalized racism,
00:06:05.000 real institutionalized racism,
00:06:06.980 and wipe race-based policies from the map once and for all.
00:06:10.240 Beyond shaming these institutions,
00:06:11.980 governments must start defunding the ones
00:06:13.440 that insist on maintaining racist policies.
00:06:15.600 There's no better time than now to do it.
00:06:17.540 And it is time to live in a world with true racial equality.
00:06:21.060 Okay, that's the rant that's got me going.
00:06:23.120 Let's get into our newsroom and check in with Dave.
00:06:25.760 I know he is very, very busy today.
00:06:28.420 Lots going on and see what's happening there.
00:06:30.880 Hey, Dave, how you doing?
00:06:31.960 Hey, good, Corey.
00:06:32.640 I'm expecting to see tumbleweed going behind you.
00:06:35.500 Yeah, well, I think there'd be plenty
00:06:37.740 if the wind was blowing today.
00:06:39.020 This has been a brilliantly calm day
00:06:40.680 and not blazingly sunny for a change.
00:06:42.560 So good for shooting live video.
00:06:45.280 Nice.
00:06:46.820 Seen any snakes?
00:06:48.640 No, I keep looking.
00:06:49.840 I want to bring you one back for a pet, 0.85
00:06:51.300 but I've had no luck.
00:06:52.000 I do a lot of walking.
00:06:52.840 No snakes yet.
00:06:54.100 Yeah, well, that's good.
00:06:55.000 That's good.
00:06:56.180 Yeah, extremely busy.
00:06:59.360 Dominated by Tumbler Ridge,
00:07:00.680 the horrible, horrible shooting that last night
00:07:04.300 done by a 18-year-old trans person
00:07:08.380 by the name of Jessie Strang.
00:07:11.680 Right now, we're leading off with a 12-year-old girl
00:07:14.620 that is fighting for her life in Vancouver Hospital.
00:07:18.760 She was shot in the head,
00:07:19.960 and the families put out a statement
00:07:22.120 and GoFundMe.
00:07:25.340 Our publisher, Derek Fildebrandt,
00:07:27.900 went on a bit of a rant this morning,
00:07:29.980 the inside story of the shooting
00:07:31.920 and why the mainstream media will not report
00:07:35.320 that the shooter is trans.
00:07:37.580 So that's worth a watch.
00:07:39.960 Chris Oldcorn, our columnist,
00:07:43.420 takes a look at it.
00:07:45.180 These transgender shootings, 1.00
00:07:48.200 whether you want to admit it or not,
00:07:50.460 they're getting more and more often.
00:07:54.600 It was our Jared Yager,
00:07:57.300 our Vancouver reporter,
00:07:58.340 who was the first one to be able
00:08:00.120 to identify the shooter last night.
00:08:02.360 But obviously, as with anything,
00:08:04.860 these type of incidents, Corey,
00:08:06.640 you get a lot of, shall we say,
00:08:09.340 fake news out there.
00:08:11.520 This morning, condolences came in
00:08:13.740 from around the world.
00:08:15.380 King Charles, Prince William,
00:08:17.620 Princess Kate,
00:08:19.020 the leaders of Germany, France,
00:08:22.480 you know, you name it,
00:08:23.500 India pouring in their condolences.
00:08:27.100 The party leaders, Mark Carney
00:08:28.800 and Pierre Polyev,
00:08:30.600 are due to give statements right now
00:08:32.600 in the House of Commons.
00:08:34.160 The question period has been cancelled
00:08:35.860 for the day for these statements
00:08:37.840 and Carney has ordered flags
00:08:39.920 to fly at half-mast
00:08:41.760 on all government buildings.
00:08:44.880 So other than Tumblr Ridge,
00:08:47.380 we've got a Bonneville Minor League
00:08:49.640 baseball coach
00:08:50.660 charged with a litany of child,
00:08:53.180 sex abuse, child porn,
00:08:55.640 bestiality stuff, you name it.
00:08:57.700 He's been charged with it.
00:08:59.120 And the government incompetence
00:09:01.460 story of the day, Corey,
00:09:02.960 Public Health Agency of Canada
00:09:05.040 has had to admit
00:09:06.300 $20 million worth of specialty drugs
00:09:09.760 was spoiled because someone
00:09:11.700 left the door open
00:09:12.720 on the refrigerator.
00:09:14.520 So there you go,
00:09:15.320 $20 million of our taxpayer-funded
00:09:17.960 money out the door
00:09:19.420 because somebody forgot
00:09:23.260 to close the door.
00:09:23.840 Yeah, and I don't doubt
00:09:26.960 that that department
00:09:27.640 still managed to get bonuses
00:09:28.860 for their performance
00:09:29.720 this year,
00:09:30.580 whereas in the real world,
00:09:32.660 you get fired for that
00:09:33.720 sort of thing.
00:09:35.100 Yes, in the real world,
00:09:36.480 you do.
00:09:37.300 So the RCMP,
00:09:38.720 who last night
00:09:39.680 described the shooter
00:09:40.560 as a gun person,
00:09:42.220 a phrase I've never heard
00:09:43.320 used before,
00:09:44.620 they're set to hold
00:09:45.380 a press conference
00:09:46.320 at any moment now,
00:09:48.160 so we'll keep checking back
00:09:50.140 with the westernstandard.news
00:09:51.520 and we'll have all the updates
00:09:52.520 as they come in.
00:09:54.100 All right,
00:09:54.820 thanks for the updates, Dave.
00:09:56.240 Dark as they may be
00:09:57.340 and I'll see you in person
00:09:58.880 for the next show.
00:10:00.120 Yeah, safe travels back.
00:10:01.980 All right, thanks, Dave.
00:10:03.380 That is our news editor,
00:10:04.760 Dave Naylor,
00:10:05.300 and yeah,
00:10:05.560 The Standard has been
00:10:06.320 putting those stories up
00:10:07.280 as this horrible tragedy
00:10:09.280 has been unfolding.
00:10:10.940 The reason that newsroom
00:10:12.360 has got the people out there
00:10:13.320 and Jared working so hard
00:10:14.580 out in the west
00:10:15.260 and Chris Oldcorn
00:10:16.140 out in the east of us,
00:10:18.280 just when we've got to
00:10:18.680 remind you guys
00:10:19.220 it's because you've subscribed.
00:10:20.120 So thank you
00:10:21.640 if you've subscribed already
00:10:22.860 and if you haven't,
00:10:23.680 get on there,
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00:10:26.960 because we will provide
00:10:29.620 real unvarnished news, guys.
00:10:32.100 We won't go into
00:10:33.240 that woke bizarreness
00:10:34.600 that the RCMP
00:10:37.320 and other news outlets will do.
00:10:38.500 As Dave mentioned,
00:10:39.520 this was one of the things
00:10:41.040 with things
00:10:42.800 as they were unfolding
00:10:43.720 with the Tumblr Ridge
00:10:44.820 Schmess shooting,
00:10:46.080 the horrible school shooting there.
00:10:47.480 that they reported
00:10:48.440 as a gun person
00:10:49.300 in a dress.
00:10:51.220 Like, they're so terrified
00:10:52.400 of the woke,
00:10:53.440 so terrified
00:10:54.140 of this weird transit,
00:10:56.940 fixation the world's had
00:10:58.640 for the last few years
00:11:00.060 that they just can't say
00:11:01.620 a man in a dress 0.94
00:11:02.560 because that's what it was.
00:11:03.720 A young man in a dress 0.98
00:11:05.060 murdering people.
00:11:07.080 That's what it was.
00:11:09.140 And it doesn't,
00:11:11.820 you know,
00:11:12.080 if we'd be more honest,
00:11:14.080 it would defuse
00:11:15.280 perhaps some of the
00:11:16.900 hate and conspiracy theories
00:11:18.520 that can come out
00:11:19.560 of something like this.
00:11:20.280 Look,
00:11:21.320 not every trans person
00:11:22.660 is violent,
00:11:23.440 not by a long shot.
00:11:26.540 But if you try to hide
00:11:28.260 when this happens,
00:11:29.800 or try to hide
00:11:30.540 from the trend
00:11:31.180 that Derek Fildebrand
00:11:31.900 did talk about that,
00:11:33.360 that there is a higher
00:11:34.400 number of trans people
00:11:35.500 participating in these
00:11:37.700 kinds of shootings
00:11:38.380 than others.
00:11:39.220 It's still a minority 1.00
00:11:40.200 of a minority,
00:11:41.240 literally.
00:11:43.180 So the vast majority
00:11:44.360 of trans people
00:11:44.860 aren't going to hurt anybody.
00:11:46.020 But the consequences
00:11:47.620 when somebody
00:11:48.300 flips their lid,
00:11:49.900 goes off,
00:11:50.420 and decides that
00:11:51.140 for whatever reason
00:11:52.220 they've got to take a gun
00:11:53.360 and start slaughtering people, 0.86
00:11:54.340 particularly in this school.
00:11:56.380 We've got to study
00:11:57.080 what's underneath that.
00:11:57.860 Now,
00:11:58.580 we can take a few days
00:11:59.540 to start digesting
00:12:00.380 and studying that.
00:12:01.180 We've got a community
00:12:03.180 that's just been traumatized.
00:12:06.060 It's horrible to think.
00:12:07.240 I worked a lot
00:12:08.200 up in Tumblr Ridge.
00:12:09.120 For people unfamiliar with it,
00:12:10.640 it's in northern BC.
00:12:12.200 It's a town
00:12:12.940 that was based on coal mines
00:12:14.540 that kind of opened
00:12:15.360 and closed.
00:12:16.280 It's an interesting town
00:12:17.060 when you drive around it.
00:12:17.920 You can tell it's a company town,
00:12:19.120 you know,
00:12:19.360 a real planned central downtown.
00:12:21.840 It's not terribly old.
00:12:23.620 There was a big
00:12:24.220 gas exploration boom up there,
00:12:26.080 so I worked up there
00:12:26.660 quite a bit
00:12:27.120 for a few years
00:12:27.740 back when I was a surveyor.
00:12:29.120 Lots of grizzly bears, too.
00:12:30.700 But it's a small,
00:12:32.880 tight,
00:12:33.540 isolated community.
00:12:34.460 So you just know,
00:12:36.380 I mean,
00:12:36.640 with 27 people
00:12:39.520 still injured
00:12:40.280 and recovering,
00:12:40.960 hopefully,
00:12:41.500 and that 12-year-old girl
00:12:42.340 who's fighting for her life,
00:12:43.360 let's really hope she makes it,
00:12:45.160 plus, you know,
00:12:46.460 nine others murdered,
00:12:48.020 and then one
00:12:48.580 who killed himself,
00:12:49.880 himself,
00:12:51.500 everybody will know
00:12:52.740 somebody
00:12:53.080 who's been impacted
00:12:53.880 by this up there.
00:12:55.000 it's just unimaginable
00:12:56.780 what's going to be going on,
00:12:58.480 the grief,
00:12:58.980 and then responding to it.
00:13:01.360 I mean,
00:13:01.920 there's no quick way
00:13:03.940 to respond to something
00:13:04.820 like this in general.
00:13:06.280 I mean,
00:13:06.440 nobody expects it,
00:13:07.260 nobody sees it coming,
00:13:08.800 but at least in a city
00:13:09.540 you have a lot of resources.
00:13:10.660 You have big hospitals,
00:13:11.980 you have helicopters,
00:13:13.220 you have a plethora
00:13:14.460 of police officers,
00:13:16.080 tactical teams.
00:13:17.320 Tumblr Ridge
00:13:17.760 has an RCMP detachment
00:13:19.280 and I think
00:13:19.680 a little health unit.
00:13:20.560 the victims of this
00:13:23.700 would have had to have been,
00:13:24.540 I guess,
00:13:25.140 evacuated to Grand Prairie
00:13:26.760 might be one of the closest
00:13:27.660 larger places
00:13:28.400 or Dawson City,
00:13:30.160 sorry,
00:13:30.760 Dawson Creek,
00:13:31.620 but it just made it worse.
00:13:33.480 You know,
00:13:33.820 perhaps there could have been
00:13:35.040 more survivors
00:13:35.660 if the resources
00:13:36.640 had been there.
00:13:37.400 You can't plan
00:13:38.420 for everything,
00:13:39.640 particularly something like this.
00:13:41.500 But let's
00:13:42.420 evaluate this
00:13:44.700 as we start to try
00:13:46.180 and wonder
00:13:46.580 what the heck happened,
00:13:47.480 how it happened,
00:13:48.700 carefully.
00:13:50.560 And not be afraid
00:13:52.220 to start digging in
00:13:54.220 to find out
00:13:55.100 the roots of some of this.
00:13:56.240 I don't think
00:13:56.640 we'll ever be able
00:13:57.200 to prevent
00:13:57.920 every sick lunatic
00:14:00.520 from going out
00:14:01.180 on murderous rampages.
00:14:02.760 Unfortunately,
00:14:03.400 a screw goes loose
00:14:04.560 in some people
00:14:05.060 and they do the worst things.
00:14:06.720 But if we're afraid
00:14:07.760 to dig into some
00:14:08.660 of the underlying factors
00:14:09.520 or if we want to pretend
00:14:10.800 that the trans aspect
00:14:11.780 has nothing to do with it,
00:14:14.080 then we aren't truly
00:14:15.160 trying to seek a solution,
00:14:16.380 are we?
00:14:17.520 We're just
00:14:18.520 following a politically
00:14:20.380 correct move,
00:14:21.200 you know?
00:14:23.120 This transgender thing 1.00
00:14:24.140 has been a fad.
00:14:25.560 I'm going to talk
00:14:25.900 a little bit about
00:14:26.480 that a little later.
00:14:27.840 There's real trans people, 0.64
00:14:28.940 there always have been.
00:14:29.980 There's people who really
00:14:30.760 want to live out their life
00:14:31.920 as a different gender
00:14:33.780 than what they were born.
00:14:35.800 But let's face it,
00:14:36.420 there's a whole heck
00:14:37.000 of a lot who've just
00:14:37.620 embraced it because
00:14:38.240 it's the thing to do lately.
00:14:40.000 And then they'll just
00:14:41.020 embrace something else later.
00:14:43.260 But when somebody's
00:14:44.160 willing to embrace
00:14:44.780 something like that,
00:14:45.380 that's an indication
00:14:46.160 of some dissatisfaction
00:14:47.460 with life,
00:14:47.960 that's not typical.
00:14:49.200 All right,
00:14:49.460 let's get on to
00:14:50.100 Independence Talk
00:14:51.080 and I'll talk a little more
00:14:52.000 about what's going on
00:14:52.860 in Tumblr Roots.
00:14:53.560 We've got William Barclay,
00:14:54.220 I've been looking forward
00:14:54.860 to this.
00:14:55.540 He's great to talk to,
00:14:56.420 he's been on before,
00:14:57.180 it's been a while,
00:14:58.060 and he wrote a great column
00:14:59.360 on the Albert Independence
00:15:00.760 Movement
00:15:01.180 and some of the
00:15:03.800 underlying roots
00:15:04.440 and what's going on
00:15:05.360 with that
00:15:06.340 and what's inspiring it.
00:15:07.900 So let's bring William in
00:15:08.740 and discuss that a little.
00:15:10.520 Hey, good to see you,
00:15:11.700 Will, how you doing?
00:15:13.040 Hey, thank you so much
00:15:13.940 for having me.
00:15:14.340 It's a pleasure
00:15:14.680 to be back with you
00:15:15.500 in-studio, I guess, eh?
00:15:17.700 Well, kind of.
00:15:18.680 I'm in the desert,
00:15:19.500 but it all runs
00:15:20.260 through the studio.
00:15:21.020 John's working really hard
00:15:21.980 to coordinate us
00:15:22.720 and pull us together there
00:15:23.740 and the conversation
00:15:25.680 is what's important
00:15:26.320 rather than the setting.
00:15:27.200 But it's a nice backdrop,
00:15:28.020 isn't it?
00:15:28.720 I was going to say,
00:15:29.440 it looks like you're
00:15:29.820 having fun at least.
00:15:31.360 Ah, yes,
00:15:31.940 a little break from the weather
00:15:32.940 and you're looking nice
00:15:33.740 and bookish as anticipated.
00:15:36.420 Thank you.
00:15:37.220 I appreciate it.
00:15:37.840 I got a little bit
00:15:38.240 of a new setup,
00:15:38.960 you know,
00:15:39.160 managed to migrate
00:15:40.080 into a new room,
00:15:41.120 so that's nice.
00:15:42.460 Right on.
00:15:43.720 So what kind of interests me?
00:15:44.900 I mean, you know,
00:15:45.440 independence has been
00:15:46.100 sort of a subject
00:15:47.060 I've been pretty immersed
00:15:47.820 in for quite a while.
00:15:49.580 But you offer,
00:15:50.620 I mean, you know,
00:15:51.080 a well-educated political view
00:15:52.720 and what you offered
00:15:53.960 is from a person
00:15:55.220 looking outside in.
00:15:56.580 You're in the East,
00:15:57.420 but you've obviously
00:15:58.060 been looking at it closely.
00:16:00.520 Maybe just kind of start
00:16:01.820 with, you know,
00:16:02.640 offering a nutshell
00:16:03.600 what your column was about.
00:16:05.940 Yeah, absolutely.
00:16:06.960 I think so.
00:16:07.480 What we've all seen
00:16:08.160 is that the Alberta
00:16:09.020 independence movement
00:16:09.840 is being condemned
00:16:11.600 by various pundits
00:16:12.780 and political actors
00:16:13.720 like the premier BC,
00:16:15.280 David Eby,
00:16:15.840 as treasonous
00:16:16.960 and little more
00:16:17.460 than a byproduct
00:16:18.280 of Alberta's lust for oil
00:16:20.060 and its archaic
00:16:20.980 conservative values
00:16:22.180 and politics.
00:16:23.260 However,
00:16:23.760 the recent surge
00:16:24.660 in popularity
00:16:25.440 that secession
00:16:26.100 has enjoyed
00:16:26.600 throughout Canada
00:16:27.340 and in Alberta
00:16:28.060 was on a consequence
00:16:29.120 of simple politics
00:16:30.140 or treason.
00:16:31.280 Rather,
00:16:32.000 the modern advent
00:16:32.880 and onset
00:16:33.460 of the Alberta
00:16:34.020 independence movement
00:16:34.820 is very much
00:16:35.520 Canada's right-wing response
00:16:36.760 to the past decade
00:16:37.480 of liberal oppression
00:16:38.320 and a result of the fact
00:16:39.820 that not just in Alberta,
00:16:41.160 but everywhere across Canada,
00:16:43.020 all right-wing ideology
00:16:44.120 and politics
00:16:44.880 have been openly persecuted
00:16:46.220 and conservatives
00:16:47.020 have already
00:16:48.020 overwhelmingly been forced
00:16:49.320 to seek out
00:16:49.940 alternative means
00:16:51.260 of political expression
00:16:52.100 outside of mainstream society
00:16:53.960 in order to achieve
00:16:54.860 any political agency
00:16:56.240 and it'll affect their future.
00:16:57.720 In a way,
00:16:58.460 you could say
00:16:58.800 that Albertans
00:16:59.400 don't now seek
00:17:00.260 to leave Canada at all
00:17:01.540 and in fact,
00:17:02.500 they were abandoned
00:17:03.080 by the Canadian nation
00:17:04.080 long ago.
00:17:06.240 So some of you
00:17:07.060 went into a lot more
00:17:07.820 that I don't as much,
00:17:09.000 which is fine,
00:17:09.540 but so more into it
00:17:11.400 being a right versus left
00:17:12.700 sort of thing.
00:17:13.640 We've had a progressive
00:17:15.260 dominated government
00:17:16.260 in Ottawa
00:17:16.940 with a conservative
00:17:18.520 dominated ideology,
00:17:20.140 I guess you could say
00:17:20.820 in Alberta and Saskatchewan,
00:17:22.720 but you feel that,
00:17:24.380 I mean,
00:17:25.140 there might not be
00:17:25.800 a little more
00:17:26.380 underpinning the movement
00:17:27.180 than just political ideology.
00:17:28.640 That's definitely
00:17:29.040 the larger part.
00:17:29.740 I mean,
00:17:29.940 I go to these meetings,
00:17:31.000 90% of the people
00:17:31.880 at the meeting,
00:17:32.420 if you're going to tell
00:17:34.060 where they are
00:17:34.380 on the ideological spectrum,
00:17:35.600 they're conservative.
00:17:37.000 But,
00:17:37.180 you know,
00:17:38.060 is there perhaps
00:17:38.580 something a little deeper
00:17:39.240 as well?
00:17:40.400 Yeah,
00:17:40.600 absolutely.
00:17:41.100 I think that you could
00:17:41.800 say that broadly speaking,
00:17:43.440 the Canadian state,
00:17:44.980 the Canadian nation
00:17:45.800 is collapsing
00:17:46.420 all around us
00:17:47.360 and Albertans
00:17:48.740 don't want to participate
00:17:50.340 in it anymore.
00:17:51.280 I mean,
00:17:51.520 like the Canadian state
00:17:52.340 actually displays
00:17:53.160 the two quintessential hallmarks
00:17:54.380 of any failing
00:17:55.020 or failed state.
00:17:55.860 It's unable
00:17:56.460 to secure its borders
00:17:57.920 and maintain sovereign
00:17:58.660 control over them
00:17:59.440 and it's lost
00:18:00.100 a monopoly
00:18:00.560 over the use of force
00:18:01.820 inside its society,
00:18:03.040 right?
00:18:03.200 So these are the two
00:18:03.720 quintessential hallmarks
00:18:04.840 of a failed state
00:18:05.560 or a failing state
00:18:06.260 we'd see overseas,
00:18:07.740 let's say,
00:18:08.120 and we see them
00:18:08.800 at home in Canada.
00:18:10.480 And I think maybe
00:18:11.320 broadly speaking,
00:18:12.340 even more so,
00:18:13.080 you could say
00:18:13.460 that Trudeau Sr.
00:18:14.280 was almost the father
00:18:15.580 of Alberta independence.
00:18:16.540 We could call it all
00:18:17.340 maybe a tale
00:18:18.320 of two Trudeaus, 0.97
00:18:19.160 but we can get into
00:18:19.820 that a little bit more later.
00:18:21.240 I think that very much
00:18:22.100 Albertans don't want
00:18:22.920 to participate
00:18:23.520 in the continued failing
00:18:25.220 and failure
00:18:25.660 of the Canadian nation
00:18:27.000 when the Albertan province
00:18:28.700 simply could be doing
00:18:30.440 so well
00:18:31.060 and has been asked
00:18:31.980 to almost prop up
00:18:32.840 this failure
00:18:33.360 and Albertans
00:18:34.660 have it extracted
00:18:35.340 from their own backs
00:18:36.440 or from their own flesh.
00:18:38.320 Yeah,
00:18:38.920 and it's a good point.
00:18:40.160 Like,
00:18:40.260 it's the state itself
00:18:41.160 is sort of,
00:18:41.680 I mean,
00:18:42.060 my feelings are
00:18:43.260 is that it's fundamentally
00:18:44.260 flawed in the Constitution
00:18:45.420 and it's just a matter
00:18:47.040 of time
00:18:47.440 as the cracks start to show
00:18:48.500 and that's what this is.
00:18:49.340 It's indicative
00:18:49.740 of Saskatchewan,
00:18:51.100 Alberta,
00:18:51.580 even BC a little bit.
00:18:52.740 Quebec is starting 0.86
00:18:53.420 to liven up again.
00:18:55.260 Whether a person,
00:18:56.380 you know,
00:18:56.720 is on the right
00:18:57.280 or the left,
00:18:58.660 they should start
00:18:59.460 understanding
00:19:00.080 that there's something
00:19:00.720 to be addressed
00:19:01.400 or this country
00:19:01.920 could be split up
00:19:02.780 and I'm just wondering
00:19:04.140 if maybe progressives
00:19:04.960 will finally start
00:19:05.540 to sit up
00:19:05.960 and take notice
00:19:06.440 like,
00:19:07.200 you know,
00:19:08.100 we got to do something
00:19:09.020 about this
00:19:09.700 or this country
00:19:11.780 could be splitting apart.
00:19:13.640 Oh, absolutely.
00:19:14.580 I think it's food bank usage
00:19:16.120 in Canada
00:19:16.740 is up 100%
00:19:18.000 with one third 0.60
00:19:18.980 of all the people
00:19:19.640 who are using
00:19:20.260 the food banks
00:19:21.000 being children
00:19:22.020 and 25%
00:19:23.580 of all Canadians
00:19:24.280 are currently
00:19:24.840 suffering from food insecurity.
00:19:26.480 It simply shouldn't be
00:19:27.220 that way
00:19:27.560 in a developed nation,
00:19:28.660 so to speak,
00:19:29.340 as Canada.
00:19:30.180 I think the OECD itself
00:19:31.400 actually confirmed
00:19:32.160 that we're going to boast
00:19:32.980 the single worst
00:19:33.740 performing economy
00:19:34.480 of all 38 OECD members
00:19:36.420 until 2060.
00:19:37.800 And I mean,
00:19:38.220 like we were saying,
00:19:38.920 it simply shouldn't be
00:19:39.660 that way in Canada
00:19:40.360 for a long time.
00:19:41.320 We're a prosperous nation
00:19:42.420 that could sit beside
00:19:43.840 the U.S. at the table.
00:19:44.900 Right now,
00:19:45.480 we don't even have a seat.
00:19:48.340 No.
00:19:49.520 It's,
00:19:50.120 you know,
00:19:50.460 that's another factor
00:19:51.620 that's kind of come into it
00:19:53.220 is this,
00:19:53.820 you know,
00:19:56.080 the instability in general.
00:19:58.420 I mean,
00:19:58.660 people are kind of,
00:19:59.640 you know,
00:20:00.040 feeling insecure.
00:20:01.540 They don't feel
00:20:02.140 there's a good response
00:20:02.960 as an independent state
00:20:04.060 of Canada
00:20:04.680 when basically
00:20:06.000 we're kind of being
00:20:06.700 pushed around
00:20:07.280 pretty heavily
00:20:07.900 by our southern neighbor
00:20:09.180 and our federal leadership
00:20:10.300 hasn't been able
00:20:11.020 to contain that
00:20:12.100 or control that.
00:20:13.160 So I think maybe
00:20:14.280 it makes people start to,
00:20:15.380 you know,
00:20:16.720 lose faith
00:20:17.400 in the federation itself.
00:20:19.420 Absolutely.
00:20:20.000 I think you could say
00:20:20.580 that Danielle Smith
00:20:21.300 is probably the politician
00:20:22.380 who has the most influence
00:20:23.460 over in America,
00:20:24.400 maybe any influence
00:20:25.880 at all anymore,
00:20:26.420 right?
00:20:27.180 And I think she said it herself
00:20:28.360 very recently,
00:20:29.320 kind of no matter
00:20:30.320 how the eastern media
00:20:31.380 seeks to twist
00:20:32.060 that Albertans
00:20:32.640 don't really want anything
00:20:33.680 outside of really standing
00:20:35.580 as equal partners in Canada
00:20:36.880 and not being treated
00:20:37.520 as second-class citizens.
00:20:39.120 There have been
00:20:39.500 a ton of articles recently
00:20:40.780 that talk about
00:20:41.640 how anybody
00:20:42.400 who has a conservative ideology
00:20:43.920 is in favor of separatism
00:20:45.220 is, to put it lightly,
00:20:46.480 an idiot. 0.91
00:20:47.100 And I think that,
00:20:48.040 in a way,
00:20:48.440 is this underlying problem
00:20:49.760 in Canada.
00:20:50.740 It's not that,
00:20:51.600 let's say,
00:20:51.900 conservatism
00:20:52.680 is a competing ethos
00:20:54.720 or ideology.
00:20:55.780 It's something
00:20:56.480 that's become
00:20:57.160 necessary to eradicate
00:20:58.700 and a threat
00:20:59.420 to all democracy
00:21:00.420 according to progressives.
00:21:03.180 So, kind of turning that,
00:21:04.820 you know,
00:21:05.220 further back to what
00:21:05.940 you mentioned earlier,
00:21:06.800 I like how you put it,
00:21:07.660 the tale of two Trudeaus.
00:21:08.620 I mean,
00:21:09.120 Canada's two largest eruptions
00:21:11.200 of independence movements
00:21:12.880 historically have been
00:21:14.140 back when Pierre was in,
00:21:15.600 both in Alberta and Quebec,
00:21:16.760 there were serious issues
00:21:17.900 going on.
00:21:19.100 And Justin Trudeau
00:21:20.220 has ridden off
00:21:20.780 into the sunset
00:21:21.340 with a pop star,
00:21:22.720 but it was 10 years
00:21:24.260 of his leadership
00:21:25.120 that really has exacerbated
00:21:27.200 the independence movement
00:21:28.420 to where it is.
00:21:29.640 And something both did
00:21:31.520 was really try to change
00:21:33.000 the social structure
00:21:34.080 of the country.
00:21:34.600 They really went
00:21:35.740 after the identity,
00:21:37.480 particularly,
00:21:38.480 Justin,
00:21:38.800 I think later,
00:21:39.740 land acknowledgements
00:21:41.440 and constant pandering
00:21:43.100 to others saying
00:21:43.720 we should look at our shoes,
00:21:44.840 we should be ashamed
00:21:45.580 of ourselves as a country
00:21:46.700 and there shouldn't be pride
00:21:48.160 and we're a post-national state.
00:21:50.440 And then, of course,
00:21:50.880 he takes off
00:21:51.540 when the consequences
00:21:52.300 of 10 years
00:21:53.080 of that sort of attitude
00:21:54.180 come about,
00:21:54.880 which is a country
00:21:55.860 that no longer feels united.
00:21:58.060 Yeah, no, absolutely.
00:21:58.960 I think that the overwhelming
00:22:00.080 majority of Canadians
00:22:01.160 would be unable to even say
00:22:02.360 what it is to be Canadian
00:22:03.520 outside of non-American
00:22:04.580 and that's a problem.
00:22:06.180 I think with regards
00:22:07.360 to Trudeau Jr.,
00:22:09.200 what you saw really
00:22:10.100 was this modern advent
00:22:11.220 of identity politics
00:22:12.320 where identities
00:22:14.240 rather than actions
00:22:15.360 became right and wrong.
00:22:16.880 And you could say
00:22:18.020 that that really has led
00:22:19.240 to a plethora
00:22:20.700 of really the outbreaks,
00:22:23.000 the downgradings,
00:22:24.020 the collapse
00:22:25.020 of Canadian society
00:22:25.920 that we've seen.
00:22:27.220 Even, let's say,
00:22:28.000 what happened in Tumblr recently.
00:22:30.080 It reeks to me
00:22:31.020 of someone who had
00:22:31.840 become hopeless
00:22:32.540 thought perhaps the way,
00:22:34.200 like the last way
00:22:34.880 to, let's say,
00:22:35.280 change their lot in life
00:22:36.380 was to change their identity
00:22:37.380 because that's what
00:22:38.040 they were fed
00:22:38.500 for their entire life.
00:22:40.480 I think ostensibly
00:22:41.540 even by their parents.
00:22:42.880 And when they did that,
00:22:43.820 they did change their identity
00:22:45.120 and they still felt the same way.
00:22:47.060 They had nothing left
00:22:47.780 but to do
00:22:48.500 than to really abort themselves
00:22:50.380 and everybody else.
00:22:51.680 And I do very much think
00:22:52.720 that it is an inevitable result
00:22:54.440 and product of these
00:22:55.520 hyper left-wing politics
00:22:56.580 that have been forced
00:22:57.420 and imposed upon
00:22:58.440 Canadian society.
00:23:00.740 Well, that's it.
00:23:01.500 I mean, personal pride.
00:23:02.640 You can't do well for yourself
00:23:04.360 if you're told
00:23:04.940 your whole life
00:23:05.480 you should be ashamed
00:23:06.220 of something
00:23:06.760 or, you know,
00:23:07.840 actions that were
00:23:08.460 outside of your control.
00:23:10.480 But, I mean,
00:23:11.040 getting back to the
00:23:11.740 independence aspect of it.
00:23:13.200 So, with this mess
00:23:14.020 which has been created
00:23:14.960 by the past two Trudeaus,
00:23:16.920 you know,
00:23:17.620 by a number of events,
00:23:19.240 where do you think,
00:23:20.780 because I want to ask you
00:23:21.780 from somebody outside
00:23:22.500 of Alberta,
00:23:23.620 you know,
00:23:24.160 Mark Carney's going to be
00:23:25.380 the Prime Minister
00:23:25.940 for some time,
00:23:26.700 presumably.
00:23:27.460 This is something
00:23:27.980 he has to deal with somehow.
00:23:30.220 How and what should
00:23:31.340 a Prime Minister
00:23:32.000 try to do
00:23:33.160 to quell discontent
00:23:34.940 in Alberta
00:23:35.300 and or Quebec?
00:23:37.340 I think,
00:23:38.260 to be honest,
00:23:38.700 it's too far gone
00:23:39.720 to kind of quell it,
00:23:40.760 let's say.
00:23:41.160 I think that in a way
00:23:41.840 he has to sit back
00:23:42.720 at this point
00:23:43.380 and let the river
00:23:44.520 see its course.
00:23:45.960 I think that
00:23:46.940 it's a little bit too much
00:23:48.420 for Mark Carney
00:23:49.160 to undo
00:23:49.780 a decade
00:23:51.120 of liberal oppression,
00:23:52.260 like I was saying,
00:23:52.980 in just such a short
00:23:53.900 amount of time
00:23:54.520 and I don't really think
00:23:55.760 he's really the man
00:23:56.940 to do it.
00:23:57.540 I don't think in a way
00:23:58.160 he has any great desire
00:23:59.160 to do it
00:23:59.800 outside of perhaps
00:24:00.980 the economic ramifications.
00:24:02.980 I think that,
00:24:04.020 in fact,
00:24:05.540 perhaps Canada's
00:24:06.880 own relationship
00:24:07.940 with America
00:24:08.560 is going to deteriorate
00:24:09.460 on the back of it
00:24:10.120 as well
00:24:10.480 because, I mean,
00:24:12.080 Carney himself
00:24:12.900 has antagonized Trump.
00:24:14.320 The liberals
00:24:14.740 have antagonized Trump.
00:24:16.000 I mean,
00:24:16.120 they misappropriated
00:24:17.080 Gordie Howe's phrase,
00:24:18.340 elbows up,
00:24:18.920 in order to do it.
00:24:19.660 I think with Alberta
00:24:20.740 leaving,
00:24:21.380 the U.S. itself
00:24:22.120 doesn't really have
00:24:22.960 any great impetus
00:24:23.880 to continue
00:24:24.800 the relationship
00:24:25.880 that he even
00:24:26.400 currently has
00:24:27.280 with Canada.
00:24:29.480 Yeah,
00:24:29.980 so I'll give
00:24:31.560 a little credit
00:24:32.020 to Carney
00:24:32.380 and I don't give
00:24:32.820 much to liberals
00:24:33.400 often.
00:24:34.320 I haven't seen him
00:24:35.740 go out of his way
00:24:36.620 to inflame Alberta
00:24:37.860 at least.
00:24:38.380 He doesn't do anything
00:24:39.000 to fix anything
00:24:39.780 and as you said,
00:24:40.320 maybe there's nothing
00:24:40.860 he can do
00:24:41.600 but at least
00:24:42.280 he hasn't been
00:24:43.000 provocative.
00:24:43.780 He hasn't been
00:24:44.480 insulting
00:24:45.280 as we've seen
00:24:45.980 out of Trudeau
00:24:46.940 or even Kretchen
00:24:47.600 a bit in the past
00:24:48.540 and we're certainly
00:24:50.000 seeing out of
00:24:50.640 Doug Ford
00:24:51.280 and David Eby.
00:24:53.520 Some people
00:24:54.400 I would put out
00:24:56.040 to others
00:24:56.440 if they don't
00:24:56.920 understand,
00:24:57.460 if you aren't
00:24:57.900 in Alberta
00:24:58.300 or when you've
00:24:59.160 got a domestic
00:24:59.760 issue going on,
00:25:01.100 you're only going
00:25:01.600 to get more angry
00:25:02.220 when somebody
00:25:02.820 from outside
00:25:03.440 wags their finger
00:25:04.360 at you
00:25:04.880 and calls you
00:25:05.440 names and does
00:25:06.160 things.
00:25:07.400 Maybe as a role
00:25:08.220 of leadership,
00:25:08.920 there's not much
00:25:09.300 Carney could do
00:25:09.920 but maybe you
00:25:10.880 could pull Eby
00:25:11.520 and Ford aside
00:25:12.400 and say,
00:25:12.680 hey guys,
00:25:13.120 you aren't helping
00:25:13.980 things right now.
00:25:15.580 You'd hope so,
00:25:16.560 right?
00:25:16.780 I think that a lot
00:25:17.440 of data is confirmed
00:25:18.500 exactly what we're
00:25:19.380 talking about
00:25:19.940 and it's in a way
00:25:20.600 unavoidable.
00:25:21.440 I mean,
00:25:21.580 the Democracy Index
00:25:22.440 itself has confirmed
00:25:23.520 that tensions
00:25:24.120 between the liberal
00:25:24.800 federal government
00:25:25.440 and the conservative
00:25:26.120 provinces are now
00:25:27.560 one of the biggest
00:25:28.220 risks to Canada's
00:25:29.120 political stability
00:25:29.900 overall.
00:25:30.580 So you really would
00:25:31.380 hope that you'd
00:25:31.880 take these people
00:25:32.400 aside and say,
00:25:33.120 hey,
00:25:33.260 maybe don't make
00:25:34.060 it worse,
00:25:34.560 right?
00:25:34.840 You would hope.
00:25:38.660 And being out
00:25:39.400 east,
00:25:39.740 I mean,
00:25:39.960 what are some
00:25:40.540 of the attitudes
00:25:41.200 you're hearing
00:25:42.100 out there?
00:25:42.560 Like from the time
00:25:43.360 I've spent out
00:25:44.020 there,
00:25:44.240 which admittedly
00:25:44.780 hasn't been a
00:25:45.240 whole lot,
00:25:45.720 though I've gone
00:25:45.980 occasionally,
00:25:46.780 wasn't so much
00:25:47.360 that anybody in
00:25:48.540 the east has a
00:25:49.020 beef with the
00:25:49.760 west,
00:25:50.060 but most often
00:25:50.560 they just don't
00:25:50.980 even really think
00:25:51.740 about the west.
00:25:52.720 It's an indifference,
00:25:53.540 if anything.
00:25:55.040 But it's certainly
00:25:55.560 the independence
00:25:58.180 movement is making
00:25:58.880 a lot of national
00:25:59.680 news now and
00:26:00.420 spurring a lot of
00:26:01.420 national discussion.
00:26:03.060 How do you feel
00:26:03.480 the people on the
00:26:03.960 ground out in
00:26:04.580 Ontario,
00:26:05.020 Quebec are reacting
00:26:06.140 to this?
00:26:06.680 Are they starting
00:26:07.160 to think about it
00:26:07.700 more?
00:26:08.540 Well,
00:26:08.740 so funny enough,
00:26:09.620 in Quebec,
00:26:10.420 especially amongst
00:26:11.020 the youth,
00:26:11.440 and this is kind
00:26:11.900 of where I
00:26:12.420 definitely differentiate
00:26:13.340 between different
00:26:13.900 demographics,
00:26:14.700 right?
00:26:14.940 But in Quebec,
00:26:16.260 the youth
00:26:17.380 overwhelmingly actually
00:26:18.400 support separatism.
00:26:21.060 Let's say they're
00:26:21.840 leaning towards it,
00:26:22.540 something they want
00:26:22.880 to pursue over in
00:26:24.480 Quebec themselves,
00:26:25.220 right?
00:26:25.740 And so I think
00:26:26.320 that in the media,
00:26:27.300 what you're going
00:26:27.640 to be hearing out
00:26:28.420 east and almost
00:26:29.100 everywhere is that
00:26:30.060 there's no support
00:26:31.540 for the independence
00:26:32.200 movement.
00:26:32.860 They think that
00:26:33.400 Albertans are 0.82
00:26:33.900 treasonous,
00:26:34.600 et cetera.
00:26:35.360 They're foolish
00:26:36.040 and all these
00:26:36.460 things.
00:26:37.180 But I think that
00:26:37.920 in reality,
00:26:39.380 it's not just the
00:26:40.140 relationship between
00:26:40.940 Alberta and the
00:26:41.660 federal government
00:26:42.180 that's deteriorated
00:26:42.780 over the past 10
00:26:43.340 years.
00:26:43.800 The relationship
00:26:44.440 between countless
00:26:45.440 provinces,
00:26:46.000 so many provinces
00:26:46.840 has deteriorated
00:26:47.820 over the past 10
00:26:48.880 years.
00:26:49.480 And so there are
00:26:50.580 huge sectors of
00:26:51.960 each province that
00:26:53.000 do understand exactly
00:26:54.220 where Alberta is
00:26:54.800 coming from.
00:26:55.380 I think particularly
00:26:56.160 amongst Canada's
00:26:56.940 youth and amongst
00:26:57.760 conservatives,
00:26:58.440 I think it goes
00:26:58.900 without saying.
00:26:59.740 But I think that
00:27:00.280 these people who
00:27:01.080 have had their future
00:27:01.880 robbed and almost
00:27:02.720 eradicated out from
00:27:03.700 under them,
00:27:04.140 again,
00:27:04.380 Canada's youth,
00:27:05.380 understand exactly
00:27:06.860 where Alberta is
00:27:07.500 coming from.
00:27:08.360 I think it was at
00:27:08.880 the outset of the
00:27:10.020 last election,
00:27:10.820 actually,
00:27:11.480 almost half of
00:27:12.440 Canada's youth
00:27:13.140 were in favor of
00:27:14.580 annexation by the
00:27:15.680 U.S., of becoming 0.82
00:27:16.440 some kind of territory
00:27:17.240 of the U.S.,
00:27:18.280 because they saw no
00:27:19.280 future here.
00:27:19.900 And I think that's
00:27:20.280 concerning.
00:27:20.880 Essentially,
00:27:21.340 half of Canada's
00:27:22.220 future saw no
00:27:23.180 future in Canada.
00:27:24.240 And it's something
00:27:24.860 that I think the
00:27:25.340 liberal government is
00:27:26.000 going to have to
00:27:26.420 contend with,
00:27:27.020 regardless of what
00:27:27.860 happens in Alberta.
00:27:28.580 Most definitely.
00:27:30.940 And that's a change
00:27:31.840 from the independence
00:27:32.600 movement I knew
00:27:33.280 from 20 years ago
00:27:34.420 when I was involved
00:27:35.140 with it.
00:27:35.700 It was particularly
00:27:36.520 the older generation
00:27:37.940 that was behind it.
00:27:38.800 And there's still a
00:27:39.480 strong segment of
00:27:40.240 older people active
00:27:41.180 and involved.
00:27:42.280 But when we look at
00:27:42.980 the polls and we
00:27:43.680 drill down in Alberta
00:27:44.540 as well, it's younger
00:27:45.940 people driving this.
00:27:47.120 And that's something
00:27:47.860 I think, you know,
00:27:49.200 I'm trying to play
00:27:49.960 some devil's advocate,
00:27:51.060 but guys, those who
00:27:52.680 oppose the independence
00:27:53.500 movement, they should
00:27:54.320 be cognizant of.
00:27:55.620 Find out what's got
00:27:56.600 them discontent and
00:27:58.120 address that then.
00:27:59.100 As you said, they
00:27:59.560 aren't seeing a good
00:28:00.220 future.
00:28:00.580 They aren't seeing a
00:28:01.060 hope.
00:28:01.300 They aren't seeing an
00:28:02.040 ability to buy a home
00:28:03.180 or get a good career.
00:28:04.640 And if that doesn't
00:28:05.580 change, they're going
00:28:06.380 to pursue more
00:28:07.700 radical means of
00:28:09.220 change and independence
00:28:09.900 offers them that.
00:28:11.420 Oh, absolutely.
00:28:11.980 And I think it's part
00:28:12.480 of this broader thing
00:28:13.420 that we're seeing right
00:28:14.040 now that conservatives
00:28:14.700 have to be a little
00:28:15.180 bit cautious of and
00:28:16.280 kind of seeding this
00:28:16.960 discourse where we
00:28:18.740 hear in a lot of
00:28:19.460 ways, especially here in
00:28:20.360 Canada, that
00:28:20.820 conservatism is dying
00:28:22.020 out.
00:28:22.280 There's very little
00:28:22.740 support for it.
00:28:24.120 Religious ideology
00:28:25.480 along with it, all
00:28:26.840 conservative religious
00:28:27.840 ideology is being
00:28:29.600 eradicated.
00:28:30.660 It's simply not true,
00:28:31.640 right?
00:28:31.820 And I think that in a
00:28:32.420 lot of ways, conservatives
00:28:33.380 here in Canada need to
00:28:34.640 be careful to not, let's
00:28:35.760 say, let the tail wag the
00:28:36.860 dog, so to speak, and
00:28:37.860 then to kind of seed this
00:28:38.680 discourse and capitulate
00:28:39.780 to it.
00:28:40.280 Because especially if you
00:28:41.440 speak to younger people
00:28:42.300 in Canada, there is this
00:28:43.140 huge desire for structure.
00:28:45.700 And it is something that
00:28:46.520 conservative ideology and
00:28:47.760 conservative values do
00:28:49.220 offer very uniquely to
00:28:50.720 young people, right?
00:28:51.360 It's something that
00:28:52.000 liberal ideology, leftist
00:28:53.880 ideology nowadays actually
00:28:55.200 abhors.
00:28:55.960 And so it's something that
00:28:56.620 I do think that we as
00:28:57.560 conservatives need to
00:28:58.420 lean into, is that we do
00:29:00.440 offer a structure and a
00:29:01.800 future and some kind of
00:29:03.080 good that is this light at
00:29:04.800 the end of the tunnel.
00:29:05.980 And I think that by
00:29:06.540 leaning into that as
00:29:07.720 conservatives here in
00:29:08.640 Canada, that's how we
00:29:10.180 start to be able to
00:29:10.960 really speak to the youth
00:29:12.200 again.
00:29:12.720 And I think that in a lot
00:29:13.500 of ways, that's what
00:29:14.260 Alberta's secession, its
00:29:15.700 independence movement, really
00:29:16.820 offers, a future.
00:29:17.700 Well, it's certainly a lot
00:29:21.000 of food for thought for
00:29:21.960 hopefully a lot of people
00:29:22.820 thinking about it.
00:29:23.860 I, you know, a lot of
00:29:25.720 what I'm getting at is as
00:29:27.300 well, Alberta's discontent's
00:29:28.500 been there for a long time,
00:29:29.320 but now the nation's
00:29:30.140 sitting up and paying
00:29:30.780 attention, whether or not
00:29:32.640 they're productively going
00:29:33.340 to react to it, we'll see.
00:29:35.180 I guess that'll be the
00:29:35.780 fodder for the next time I
00:29:36.720 have you on to discuss
00:29:37.600 things.
00:29:37.960 I mean, this year's going to
00:29:38.700 unfold with this subject
00:29:40.140 being on top, obviously, for
00:29:41.600 months and months as a
00:29:42.440 referendum approaches.
00:29:44.480 And I look forward to your
00:29:46.520 reviews on it and others
00:29:47.540 because we work on this
00:29:48.540 because, I mean, it's a
00:29:49.140 fascinating time to be
00:29:50.020 alive, if nothing else, as
00:29:51.340 a political weenie as we
00:29:52.400 are.
00:29:53.640 So before I let you go,
00:29:55.720 where are people going to
00:29:56.480 find your work?
00:29:57.500 I mean, we know you write
00:29:58.340 columns within the Western
00:29:59.220 Standard, but you're
00:30:00.040 prolific on social media and
00:30:01.140 elsewhere.
00:30:01.820 Where can people get your
00:30:02.640 stuff, William?
00:30:03.640 Yeah, thank you so much.
00:30:04.640 I guess if you want to stay
00:30:05.260 up to date on my work and
00:30:06.240 say hi, reach out about
00:30:07.600 working together, anything at
00:30:08.500 all, you guys can follow me
00:30:09.820 on Twitter.
00:30:10.480 My handle is at Will
00:30:12.100 Barclay PCBG.
00:30:13.500 If it's Twitter or X
00:30:14.540 nowadays, but the handle is
00:30:16.140 at Will Barclay PCBG.
00:30:17.700 Like you said, I'm also a
00:30:19.120 national columnist with
00:30:20.080 everybody at the Western
00:30:20.860 Standard, and I've actually
00:30:21.800 just debuted a column in
00:30:22.960 the American Spectator.
00:30:24.220 So, yeah, please feel free
00:30:25.340 to check out my work and
00:30:26.180 say hi.
00:30:26.580 I love to meet and chat
00:30:27.780 with everyone.
00:30:29.500 Right on.
00:30:29.920 Well, thanks for your
00:30:30.520 column there, William, and
00:30:31.960 thanks for your time today.
00:30:33.260 I'm sure we will be talking
00:30:34.340 again soon.
00:30:35.100 There's just so much to
00:30:36.120 cover right now.
00:30:37.360 Thank you so much for
00:30:38.200 having me.
00:30:38.400 It's always a pleasure.
00:30:39.860 Great.
00:30:40.140 Thanks.
00:30:40.980 So one more time, folks.
00:30:41.800 Yeah, look it up.
00:30:42.600 William Barclay, and you can
00:30:44.120 see his stuff out there, and
00:30:45.660 he's getting columns
00:30:47.220 published in other
00:30:48.620 national publications.
00:30:49.740 Because, as you see, a 1.00
00:30:51.060 nuanced conversation.
00:30:52.300 We've got to watch
00:30:52.800 ourselves.
00:30:53.260 You know, we can be at
00:30:54.380 risk of an echo chamber.
00:30:55.440 I'm an Alberta guy.
00:30:56.240 I can certainly speak to a
00:30:57.200 lot of things within the
00:30:58.000 independence movement in
00:30:58.800 Alberta, but I want to see
00:31:00.840 how people in the other
00:31:02.200 parts of the country are
00:31:03.340 thinking about it.
00:31:03.740 I know there's a lot of
00:31:04.240 people saying, ah, I'm
00:31:04.960 tired of listening to people
00:31:05.960 in the other parts of the
00:31:06.680 country.
00:31:07.260 I understand that.
00:31:09.100 But in the broader
00:31:10.000 scheme of things, getting a
00:31:11.440 little more perspective from
00:31:12.320 there, as you can see,
00:31:12.960 will, is very reasoned, and
00:31:15.040 looking at things, you
00:31:16.620 know, from a reasonable
00:31:18.220 perspective, I think it
00:31:19.940 kind of helps both sides in
00:31:21.460 a sense.
00:31:22.360 My side is, of course, on the
00:31:24.420 independence-leaning thing.
00:31:26.380 Let's see what else is going
00:31:27.280 on out there in the world
00:31:28.160 before I get on to
00:31:28.940 Tumblr Ridge a little more.
00:31:31.060 The Olympics are happening.
00:31:32.660 I don't know.
00:31:34.580 Some people love watching it.
00:31:35.800 I used to, you know, but
00:31:36.560 look how it's evolved.
00:31:37.620 You know, it's showing my
00:31:40.060 age, I guess.
00:31:41.400 But, you know, 30 years
00:31:42.600 ago, when the Olympics were
00:31:44.400 on, whether it was summer
00:31:45.040 or winter, everybody set
00:31:47.000 aside all their time to
00:31:48.160 watch it.
00:31:48.640 You had, of course, your
00:31:49.500 limited channels on
00:31:50.320 television.
00:31:50.700 That's where you were going
00:31:51.280 to watch it.
00:31:52.000 Maybe you were watching it
00:31:52.700 bizarre times because of
00:31:53.740 the time changes, depending
00:31:54.540 on where the events were
00:31:55.400 being held.
00:31:56.260 But it was a huge affair.
00:31:57.620 I mean, people were just
00:31:59.160 locked onto it for weeks.
00:32:01.420 And I don't think that's
00:32:02.420 quite there anymore.
00:32:04.300 Uh, maybe I'm wrong.
00:32:05.640 You know, you can, you
00:32:06.340 guys can correct me in the
00:32:07.120 comments and so on.
00:32:08.180 But it's, it's just turned
00:32:10.100 into such a, uh, showy
00:32:12.480 affair, I guess, and such
00:32:13.500 and, and lost the, the, the
00:32:15.280 focus on athleticism, I
00:32:16.500 think.
00:32:17.380 Uh, I really hope the
00:32:19.260 Canadian athletes do well.
00:32:20.360 I mean, I'm an independent
00:32:21.040 supporter, but I still want
00:32:21.900 to see those athletes do
00:32:22.740 great.
00:32:23.060 I, I look forward to
00:32:24.540 watching some of it and
00:32:25.660 things, but I mean, look at
00:32:27.140 some of the other, here's
00:32:27.840 an example of, you know,
00:32:28.620 you get sponsorship, you
00:32:29.700 get fashion.
00:32:30.320 If those have seen those
00:32:31.260 Lululemon outfits at
00:32:32.920 those poor athletes had
00:32:33.920 to wear those weird
00:32:34.920 giant cloak jackets and
00:32:37.620 so on.
00:32:37.880 Like this is supposed to
00:32:38.540 be athletics, not ugly
00:32:40.740 fashion shows.
00:32:41.960 You embarrass those guys
00:32:43.040 when they had to walk
00:32:43.680 out there and gals
00:32:44.260 would bring that junk.
00:32:46.140 And it really does make
00:32:47.180 Canada look all the 0.93
00:32:48.460 stranger, you know?
00:32:50.260 I mean, that's part of
00:32:50.840 it.
00:32:50.940 That's when the countries
00:32:51.580 all get to get on the
00:32:52.580 world stage.
00:32:53.700 That's one of the things
00:32:54.420 I guess with the Olympics,
00:32:55.120 it's good for smaller
00:32:55.800 countries to stand out if
00:32:57.220 they have a, an athlete
00:32:58.380 or a number of athletes
00:32:59.260 who can manage to break
00:33:01.400 out of the pack and, and
00:33:02.280 really grab the attention
00:33:03.540 of the world.
00:33:04.320 But if the attention is
00:33:06.080 on something as stupid
00:33:07.260 as an ugly outfit, it
00:33:08.740 hasn't done Canada any
00:33:09.840 favors.
00:33:12.740 Let's see.
00:33:15.320 Yeah, here's another one.
00:33:17.000 And this is one of the
00:33:17.740 things, you know, getting
00:33:18.760 back to the elbows up,
00:33:19.640 getting to the carny.
00:33:20.620 You guys have probably
00:33:21.320 heard a bit of that that's
00:33:22.560 been going on already.
00:33:24.980 Some weirdness.
00:33:26.240 How do you deal with
00:33:26.940 Trump?
00:33:27.220 You know, he's, he's, he's
00:33:29.320 just a, a, a figure all
00:33:32.000 onto his own.
00:33:32.820 You can't predict him.
00:33:33.600 You can't cope with him.
00:33:34.460 You can't deal with him.
00:33:35.920 And these are his lines
00:33:37.280 with the bridge between
00:33:38.660 Ontario and Michigan.
00:33:39.520 This has been going on
00:33:40.100 for years.
00:33:40.460 It's been billions of
00:33:41.060 dollars.
00:33:41.380 It's a huge trade route
00:33:42.760 both ways.
00:33:44.040 And he said, Canada's
00:33:44.900 building a massive bridge
00:33:45.700 between Ontario and
00:33:46.360 Michigan.
00:33:47.560 He said, they own both
00:33:48.600 Canada and the United
00:33:49.260 States side.
00:33:50.000 And of course built it
00:33:50.780 with no U.S.
00:33:51.740 content.
00:33:52.160 Well, that's because
00:33:52.600 Canada spent all the 0.88
00:33:54.120 money to build it.
00:33:55.180 He wanted to kick in on
00:33:56.000 half.
00:33:56.340 I guess something could
00:33:56.840 have been arranged.
00:33:57.720 The bottom line is, uh,
00:33:59.840 it was built.
00:34:00.820 He says, President
00:34:01.440 Barack Hussein Obama
00:34:02.600 stupidly gave them a
00:34:03.480 waiver so they could get
00:34:04.280 around the Buy American
00:34:05.300 Act.
00:34:06.820 He says, I will not allow
00:34:07.840 the bridge to open with
00:34:08.800 the United States until
00:34:09.680 it's fully compensated for
00:34:10.720 everything we've given
00:34:11.440 them.
00:34:12.320 You know, I mean, blah,
00:34:13.540 blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:34:14.620 Like guys, I know I got a
00:34:15.480 lot of Trump fans.
00:34:16.360 My, my, my feed are good
00:34:18.380 on you and that's fine.
00:34:19.660 But it's ridiculous.
00:34:21.120 It's tiresome.
00:34:23.080 The trade on that bridge
00:34:24.440 and other areas and
00:34:25.760 pipelines and so on
00:34:26.740 benefits both the United
00:34:28.800 States and Canada massively.
00:34:31.300 I understand push and
00:34:32.460 pull. 0.98
00:34:32.740 I understand, uh,
00:34:34.140 negotiation, but nobody's
00:34:37.780 winning out of this crap.
00:34:38.880 Nobody's winning out of
00:34:39.560 the tariffs.
00:34:40.280 We got to get out of this
00:34:41.400 somehow.
00:34:41.740 I don't know how or when.
00:34:43.160 And this is one of the
00:34:44.020 areas are again, where I
00:34:44.760 give, uh, a little bit of
00:34:48.280 a pass just because who on
00:34:50.400 earth can deal with, with
00:34:52.800 Trump?
00:34:53.040 You don't know day to day,
00:34:54.180 week to week, what he's
00:34:55.160 going to do, but we're
00:34:55.840 talking about a bridge with
00:34:56.980 that has billions and
00:34:57.640 billions and billions of
00:34:58.300 traffic going both ways on
00:34:59.660 it of commercial traffic.
00:35:02.340 And if it suddenly gets
00:35:03.180 thrown in the air,
00:35:04.040 everybody can get screwed.
00:35:05.100 Layoffs can happen on both
00:35:06.060 sides of the border and
00:35:06.700 over what?
00:35:07.420 What?
00:35:07.600 Because it got approved
00:35:08.320 under Obama and he's
00:35:09.160 still heady about it.
00:35:10.160 I don't know.
00:35:11.940 Oh, we got a lot to work
00:35:13.180 on.
00:35:14.420 Uh, here's another beauty.
00:35:15.640 Here's one of the areas
00:35:16.180 where you have a difficulty
00:35:17.260 getting a bride going in 0.97
00:35:19.360 Canada.
00:35:19.800 This was in the Toronto sun.
00:35:20.980 You give credit.
00:35:22.060 A non-citizen is the term
00:35:23.480 they're using.
00:35:23.940 In other words, an 0.98
00:35:24.440 immigrant in Brampton, which
00:35:26.920 has got no shortage of
00:35:28.820 non-citizens.
00:35:29.960 It's a serial rapist.
00:35:32.140 Serial, like many, many,
00:35:33.580 many, many rapes of
00:35:34.800 children.
00:35:35.660 13 year old, as a matter of
00:35:36.700 fact, he impregnated her and
00:35:38.440 kept getting bail repeatedly.
00:35:39.980 And thrown back in and
00:35:41.160 getting bail and thrown
00:35:42.100 back in.
00:35:43.240 Why the hell is he still
00:35:45.480 in the country?
00:35:46.340 What does it take?
00:35:48.080 If Canada can't deport a 1.00
00:35:50.320 serial child rapist, who
00:35:52.840 can we deport?
00:35:53.980 It's bad enough.
00:35:54.640 We got a number of the
00:35:56.220 people from, let's say it,
00:35:57.480 low trust societies who
00:35:58.440 are taking advantage of
00:35:59.200 food banks and subsidized
00:36:01.680 housing and a whole number
00:36:02.900 of things, because if they
00:36:04.120 see items, they grab.
00:36:05.540 It's different.
00:36:05.980 It's cultural differences
00:36:07.000 between some people and
00:36:08.360 those change.
00:36:08.900 But we got to get
00:36:10.340 realistic with some
00:36:11.080 things.
00:36:11.300 But to the point where we
00:36:13.180 can't even get rid of a
00:36:14.700 child rapist, how is the
00:36:16.560 country supposed to feel
00:36:17.520 proud?
00:36:18.180 How are we supposed to see a
00:36:19.960 good future in the country
00:36:21.420 when this nation is so
00:36:23.620 broken that it can't
00:36:26.700 control who lives there and
00:36:28.900 who doesn't to the point of
00:36:30.580 one of the most odious
00:36:31.480 characters you could
00:36:32.880 possibly have within your
00:36:34.340 borders?
00:36:34.680 I want no part of a 1.00
00:36:36.500 country that will do
00:36:37.120 that.
00:36:37.340 I don't want to be a 1.00
00:36:38.360 country that's a haven for
00:36:39.260 child rapists, a country
00:36:41.040 that stares at its shoes, has
00:36:42.460 tied itself in progressive
00:36:43.520 knots over its crappy
00:36:45.320 justice system with so many
00:36:47.580 steps and levels to try and
00:36:49.340 deport somebody when this is
00:36:51.120 such a cut and dry case.
00:36:53.020 Get him the hell out of
00:36:54.360 there.
00:36:55.080 And Canada can't do it.
00:36:57.760 Raping 13-year-olds.
00:36:59.640 And it's just one, right?
00:37:00.760 How many of those cases do we
00:37:01.860 keep seeing repeat offenders,
00:37:04.120 repeat offenders, repeat
00:37:04.960 offenders, and judges
00:37:06.120 actually giving them reduced
00:37:08.480 sentences?
00:37:09.300 And they're usually rapists. 1.00
00:37:10.180 That seems to be their
00:37:10.900 crime of choice, by the way,
00:37:12.140 guys.
00:37:13.140 Reduce sentences so that they
00:37:15.560 don't have to face
00:37:16.240 deportation.
00:37:17.340 Screw that.
00:37:18.660 Screw that.
00:37:19.340 You know what?
00:37:19.740 If you came to Canada and 0.97
00:37:20.940 you have anything more than
00:37:21.800 a parking ticket, you
00:37:23.300 should get the hell out.
00:37:24.920 You can't behave yourself
00:37:26.380 that long.
00:37:27.180 You can't be a safe,
00:37:28.640 productive citizen that long.
00:37:30.600 Get out.
00:37:31.080 We don't need you.
00:37:32.120 There's a whole world of
00:37:33.040 people who understand that
00:37:34.240 if you're going to a new
00:37:35.040 home, you treat it with
00:37:36.300 respect.
00:37:37.240 You follow the laws there.
00:37:39.560 We don't do that.
00:37:40.780 We've got our cultural
00:37:41.660 mosaic to think of.
00:37:42.760 We've got our post-national
00:37:44.120 state.
00:37:44.660 Thank you, Justin Trudeau,
00:37:45.700 that you came up with.
00:37:47.060 And now we've seen the
00:37:48.660 final consequence to the
00:37:49.760 point of child rapists
00:37:51.420 still within our country that
00:37:53.940 we can't get rid of.
00:37:56.240 Getting on to direct
00:37:57.360 democracy and independence in
00:37:59.420 Alberta.
00:38:02.380 See, there's a citizens
00:38:03.400 initiative petition.
00:38:04.360 This is one of the great
00:38:04.900 things that the left jumped on
00:38:06.120 all sorts of, because, you
00:38:07.100 know, Premier Smith brought in
00:38:08.600 direct democracy measures, or
00:38:10.520 at least she fixed the ones 0.95
00:38:11.360 that Jason Kenney put in,
00:38:12.420 which were crap.
00:38:13.840 And it's allowed, though, they
00:38:16.180 jumped on and said, well, we're
00:38:17.260 going to use it all over the
00:38:18.560 place and fight back against
00:38:19.700 Smith with it.
00:38:20.320 So they started one to ban
00:38:22.840 public funding to Alberta's
00:38:24.120 private schools.
00:38:25.040 Yes, this is it.
00:38:25.680 Because most of these things
00:38:26.560 you see were union-spawned.
00:38:28.640 Let's not beat around that
00:38:29.700 bush.
00:38:30.200 They were union-spawned. 0.82
00:38:31.180 They denied that they were
00:38:31.760 union-spawned.
00:38:32.360 It was teachers having a
00:38:33.380 temper tantrum. 0.97
00:38:34.940 You've got to think of where
00:38:35.520 the unions went.
00:38:36.920 The unions used to be labor
00:38:38.100 unions, lunchbox-carrying 0.94
00:38:39.480 workers who needed better
00:38:40.900 conditions.
00:38:42.160 Now they're civil servants
00:38:43.560 and teachers.
00:38:44.140 Those are the powerful ones.
00:38:46.260 The blue-haired teachers
00:38:47.500 locked in progressivism who've
00:38:48.860 never lived in the world of
00:38:49.800 reality probably took on
00:38:51.380 teaching because their
00:38:52.100 liberal arts degree wasn't
00:38:53.100 getting them any work aside
00:38:54.440 from being a barista and
00:38:55.720 now they're embittered and
00:38:56.500 sucking in hundreds of
00:38:57.620 thousands of dollars and
00:38:58.480 yes, it's in Alberta.
00:38:59.440 They're making well over
00:39:00.320 a hundred thousand a year
00:39:01.220 and turning down 12% raises
00:39:04.660 and then upset when that
00:39:06.480 was imposed upon them when
00:39:07.700 they held Alberta's
00:39:08.580 children hostage.
00:39:09.420 So they decided to use the
00:39:11.940 direct democracy system to
00:39:13.040 get back at Daniel Smith.
00:39:15.480 And their petition fell
00:39:16.960 short, fully short.
00:39:19.460 They basically didn't even
00:39:20.580 get half of the signatures
00:39:21.480 they needed or maybe a
00:39:22.600 little more than half of
00:39:23.520 what they needed and it
00:39:24.320 died.
00:39:25.020 Meanwhile, the
00:39:25.360 independence petition is
00:39:27.080 roaring out of the gates.
00:39:27.920 The other thing they did
00:39:28.600 was started recall petitions
00:39:30.980 against over 20-some
00:39:33.160 MLAs sitting in the 1.00
00:39:37.120 legislature and legacy
00:39:38.040 media.
00:39:38.480 Oh boy, oh boy,
00:39:39.520 Daniel's in trouble.
00:39:40.420 They're falling like
00:39:41.200 matchsticks.
00:39:41.820 Not even close.
00:39:43.000 The one against Angela
00:39:43.880 Pitt I think came in at
00:39:44.680 16% of what they needed.
00:39:47.160 So I just want to
00:39:47.720 celebrate that loss.
00:39:48.980 Direct democracy is
00:39:50.160 working because enough
00:39:52.080 Albertans, hundreds and
00:39:52.980 hundreds of thousands of
00:39:53.780 Albertans want an
00:39:55.200 independence referendum.
00:39:57.480 But there's not that
00:39:59.400 many who want to ban
00:40:00.740 funding to private
00:40:01.580 schools because actually
00:40:03.880 when you look at the
00:40:04.360 first funding for a
00:40:05.760 student, the private
00:40:06.420 schools save the system
00:40:07.840 money.
00:40:08.720 The beef isn't equity,
00:40:11.060 as they always like to
00:40:11.740 put it.
00:40:12.360 Their beef is that these
00:40:13.260 schools are non-union.
00:40:15.560 Their beef is that
00:40:16.460 teachers are paid on
00:40:17.860 merit at some of these
00:40:19.140 private schools.
00:40:19.660 In fact, some of them
00:40:20.260 are probably making
00:40:20.800 more than those
00:40:23.220 already very well
00:40:23.940 compensated teachers in
00:40:24.940 public schools.
00:40:26.120 Oh well, too bad.
00:40:28.120 Because they paid by the
00:40:29.440 individual, not the
00:40:30.200 other.
00:40:30.420 So, guys, if that
00:40:31.740 appetite was there, I
00:40:32.760 guess you would have
00:40:33.360 gotten your petition
00:40:34.480 through, wouldn't you?
00:40:35.100 But you didn't.
00:40:36.500 You didn't.
00:40:38.040 All right, so we're
00:40:38.860 going to talk a lot more
00:40:39.640 about the shooting in
00:40:42.660 Tumult Ridge.
00:40:43.380 You know, that's
00:40:43.800 definitely going to be
00:40:44.440 the subject for a while.
00:40:45.280 So, I guess we've got
00:40:46.840 to watch the knee-jerk 0.98
00:40:47.860 reaction.
00:40:48.540 It's going to happen
00:40:49.180 on the left and right.
00:40:50.340 There's going to be
00:40:50.800 people vilifying the
00:40:52.740 whole trans community
00:40:53.540 way too much over this
00:40:54.760 because it wasn't the
00:40:55.940 whole trans community
00:40:56.620 who did it.
00:40:57.060 It was one sick, sick
00:40:58.880 man, young man, who
00:41:00.760 identified as trans.
00:41:03.580 Bear that in mind when
00:41:04.520 you're getting upset
00:41:04.980 with it.
00:41:05.320 Think about, it's not
00:41:06.340 the entire firearm
00:41:07.120 community who did this
00:41:07.900 either, and the left is
00:41:08.660 going to say that.
00:41:09.400 They're going to try and
00:41:10.000 use this as an excuse to
00:41:11.140 ban firearms from
00:41:12.460 law-abiding citizens.
00:41:13.540 They do every time
00:41:14.300 there's a shooting.
00:41:15.280 They're going to say
00:41:16.380 that your hunting
00:41:16.960 rifles should be banned
00:41:18.020 and your recreational
00:41:19.660 shooting rifles should
00:41:21.280 be banned and your 0.85
00:41:22.960 other firearms should
00:41:23.780 be taken away, stolen
00:41:25.460 by the government.
00:41:26.320 So, before you try to
00:41:28.440 label everybody in the
00:41:29.160 trans community, because 1.00
00:41:30.680 of this, just kind of
00:41:31.600 keep that in mind that
00:41:33.420 it's just as unfair as
00:41:35.160 labeling everybody in
00:41:36.240 the firearm community.
00:41:37.100 But there's discussions
00:41:37.980 to be had.
00:41:40.660 A person identifying as
00:41:42.040 trans most often is a 1.00
00:41:44.480 kid who's acting out.
00:41:46.120 A kid who's lost hope.
00:41:48.700 William kind of touched
00:41:49.640 upon that a little.
00:41:50.440 We have some different
00:41:51.180 discussion about that.
00:41:53.120 Troubled kids.
00:41:53.960 They've always grabbed
00:41:55.060 onto something generation
00:41:56.160 after generation.
00:41:57.600 We've known that.
00:41:58.700 You see any more goth kids
00:41:59.840 anymore?
00:42:00.860 Punk, you know, with
00:42:01.700 punk kids with, you know,
00:42:05.160 safety pins through their
00:42:06.280 ears and mohawk haircuts.
00:42:08.420 You see them occasionally,
00:42:09.080 I guess, you know, people
00:42:09.980 trying to play retro, emo
00:42:11.960 kids, greasers from the
00:42:14.380 fifties.
00:42:14.880 Look, young people embrace
00:42:16.620 things to, if they were
00:42:18.300 troubled, to try and draw
00:42:20.240 attention to themselves,
00:42:21.740 whatever their beefs may be,
00:42:23.380 trouble at home, mental
00:42:24.260 health issues, all sorts of
00:42:25.640 things, lots of things.
00:42:26.980 And they came and went with
00:42:27.880 different trends.
00:42:28.860 The thing was always the
00:42:29.720 same.
00:42:30.020 It was a troubled kid.
00:42:31.820 But if a kid's that
00:42:32.760 troubled with mental health
00:42:34.240 issues, unfortunately, it
00:42:35.840 can manifest in the worst
00:42:36.820 possible way later on down the
00:42:38.420 road, which is what happened
00:42:39.260 in Tumblr Ridge.
00:42:39.900 And it would happen with
00:42:40.600 some of those other trans
00:42:41.340 shooters.
00:42:42.300 And there's been a number of
00:42:43.300 them in the States now.
00:42:44.800 It's not a matter of the
00:42:45.680 trans aspect.
00:42:46.480 It's a matter that the trans
00:42:47.400 should be a flag with some
00:42:48.560 of them to make it realize
00:42:49.740 this kid has got something
00:42:51.040 going on and there's some
00:42:52.900 problems to be addressed.
00:42:54.420 That's why there's so many
00:42:55.180 more trans kids now than 1.00
00:42:56.320 there had been 20 years ago
00:42:57.640 because most of them aren't
00:42:59.560 really trans.
00:43:00.220 They're just kids who want to
00:43:01.020 get attention.
00:43:01.800 Yeah, you can all get an
00:43:02.620 upset minute with me as much
00:43:03.720 as you like.
00:43:04.180 There are real trans people.
00:43:05.400 People have turned their
00:43:06.160 whole lives around and try
00:43:08.060 and live as a different
00:43:09.460 gender.
00:43:10.220 And if they're adults, I
00:43:11.000 hope it works for you.
00:43:12.480 Great.
00:43:13.080 Go ahead with it.
00:43:14.080 But all of this non-binary 1.00
00:43:15.500 bull crap and the ones in 0.73
00:43:18.180 school and the bulk of them
00:43:19.340 and all that, those are just
00:43:20.480 kids riding a trend and
00:43:22.740 finding another way to seek
00:43:23.680 attention and act out.
00:43:26.220 So just as you saw the kid
00:43:27.860 dressed all in black, goth
00:43:29.820 and everything else and
00:43:30.940 hanging out with all the
00:43:31.700 rest depressed kids 20 years
00:43:33.420 ago, didn't mean that that
00:43:35.660 kid was going to get
00:43:36.280 violent or necessarily
00:43:38.700 harm people.
00:43:40.340 I think the Columbine kids 0.88
00:43:41.340 were goth or something too.
00:43:42.440 It could be wrong.
00:43:44.340 But it's a flag that the
00:43:45.440 kid's experiencing something
00:43:46.780 and not doing well with it.
00:43:49.100 Right now it's trans. 0.96
00:43:50.780 So should we ban every 0.99
00:43:52.300 trans kid? 0.90
00:43:52.820 Of course not.
00:43:53.500 But pay a little closer
00:43:54.300 attention to it.
00:43:55.360 And it's already starting to
00:43:56.340 fade anyways.
00:43:56.880 We've seen some of those
00:43:57.420 numbers coming.
00:43:58.140 The kid, you know, that's
00:43:58.960 kids, right?
00:43:59.580 Oh, that was so five years
00:44:00.740 ago, two years ago,
00:44:01.800 whatever.
00:44:02.160 It's a factor in the
00:44:05.580 shooting that happened in
00:44:06.440 Tumblr, but it's not the
00:44:07.780 only factor.
00:44:08.740 We should ask questions on
00:44:10.040 why this kid had access to
00:44:11.680 the firearms they did.
00:44:12.460 We don't even know what
00:44:13.000 firearms are used yet.
00:44:14.580 What other precursors were
00:44:16.380 there?
00:44:16.940 What happened?
00:44:17.860 What drove this?
00:44:19.560 Trans is just one part of
00:44:20.640 it.
00:44:20.940 We can't pretend it's not a
00:44:22.280 part and say nothing about
00:44:23.720 it.
00:44:24.440 But let's not get too
00:44:25.500 obsessed about that in
00:44:26.440 itself as well.
00:44:27.340 This is something bigger
00:44:28.040 than that.
00:44:29.080 And terrible.
00:44:30.000 And again, you just can't
00:44:32.080 imagine, you know, you
00:44:33.080 just send your kid to
00:44:33.820 school and they get
00:44:34.980 slaughtered.
00:44:37.200 It's awful.
00:44:38.420 So for those who are in
00:44:40.560 the prayer, by all means
00:44:41.620 pray for those survivors
00:44:42.600 and I hope they can come
00:44:43.680 through this.
00:44:45.340 And, uh, well, let's just
00:44:47.580 hope we see less and less
00:44:48.520 of this.
00:44:48.860 We do have to discuss it.
00:44:49.800 We have to dissect it.
00:44:50.860 These things aren't 100%
00:44:52.260 preventable, but there's
00:44:53.120 got to be some things we
00:44:54.220 can do to reduce having to
00:44:56.520 see any more of this.
00:44:58.280 Nobody wants to see this.
00:44:59.340 All right, that's it for
00:45:00.400 today.
00:45:00.620 We're going to break that
00:45:01.220 down a little more with
00:45:01.940 the pipeline tonight, by
00:45:02.940 the way, uh, where Nigel,
00:45:04.580 Derek, Dave, and I will
00:45:05.360 break down some more
00:45:06.000 issues and things that are
00:45:06.820 going on and I'll be back
00:45:08.320 in studio in Alberta next
00:45:10.940 week.
00:45:11.300 So thank you for tuning
00:45:12.380 into the last of my
00:45:13.220 desert series today, guys,
00:45:14.760 and I will, uh, catch you
00:45:16.800 all on the next one.
00:45:29.340 and I will.
00:45:30.900 We'll be right back.