Western Standard - Cory Morgan Show July 23, 2021

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00:00:43.640 Clinton DeVoe coming on in a short while we'll talk to him about the federal scene we got a federal

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00:04:34.420 done the live show in a couple of weeks i need to rant get things off my chest

00:04:37.280 uh i should say you know i i will miss the comments coming from people while i was going

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00:04:49.720 if you've got comments or ideas and things like that and i'll happily respond to things within

00:04:54.940 reason if you're unreasonable i'll just ignore you we'll take that as it comes so the stampede has

00:04:59.620 ended and it sounds like you know the turnout was limited but things went all right the world didn't

00:05:04.900 end the plague hasn't been erupting uh in any sort of crazy way despite all the doomsayers

00:05:10.220 it was a great exposure of hypocrisy it was fun to watch you know uh rachel notley and and a lot of

00:05:16.860 municipal candidates and campaigners who were saying oh jason kenny's being irresponsible we can't open

00:05:21.500 this early the stampede's going to be a death trap well they were all out barbecuing and campaigning

00:05:26.900 and shaking hands and kissing asses and full force for this stampede so they seem to have forgotten

00:05:31.200 how dangerous it was supposed to be they got over it because you know what the priority of

00:05:36.600 campaigning during a prime campaign time is much more important to them than their bs virtue signaling

00:05:41.520 about keeping people safe for restrictions and the covid19 and it's just nice to see that exposed

00:05:46.600 and i do love to point out hypocrisy when i see it and uh our ndp and some others never hesitate to

00:05:51.940 give me material to work on with that so other announcements we saw you know it's this long campaign

00:05:57.700 kind of going on provincially uh jason kenny is is talked about uh putting daylight savings to a

00:06:04.100 uh referendum question i know people say it sounds like it's kind of petty it's minor

00:06:08.580 uh it is in a way but you know let's just get it done i mean i you know what i'm not even going to

00:06:13.160 take a side note what i am like seeing is is is the direct democracy that's coming out we're going to

00:06:17.240 have a number of things coming on the ballot this fall to pick and choose from and it's really a

00:06:21.740 means of government i want to see more of for the most part i trust the voters i want them to make a

00:06:26.380 choice on matters uh i know they don't always make a choice i agree with and the head and inch he was

00:06:31.580 mayor over and over again but you know what he won and it means that we didn't come up with a good

00:06:36.040 enough campaign to unseat the guy that's up to us and that's on us so referendums bring him on let's

00:06:41.620 make our choices take it out of the hands of those clowns in government sometimes and uh we get things

00:06:46.680 done you know make it definitive quickly i can't believe we've been fighting over this for so long

00:06:50.660 now we've got a crisis coming on every level of government with the pandemic and just with the

00:06:56.180 ongoing trends and everything we've been spending too much money our deficits are terrifying our debt

00:07:01.140 is terrifying the federal debt is over a trillion dollars i mean we it's unimaginable for a country

00:07:07.140 this size and of course the the usual arguments come along do we tax our way out of it or do we

00:07:13.540 cut some spending and uh i'm seeing actually very little from anybody talking about cutting spending which

00:07:18.720 is really uh frightening uh the trudeau government now is starting to talk about a wealth tax they're

00:07:24.280 talking about coming after your inheritance they're talking about all sorts of other ways to grab more

00:07:28.560 money from us to pay off their massive spending and that is distressing and wealth taxes i mean they've

00:07:34.740 been shown over and over yeah you can go out and shallowly target that handful of mega rich people

00:07:39.320 out there and there's a handful of them they're already paying loads of tax contrary to what a lot of

00:07:43.540 people believe the best you're going to accomplish is a small dent in your deficit because you

00:07:47.540 haven't reduced the spending you've done some virtue signaling i guess for the politics of envy to

00:07:51.840 show those mean nasty people who managed to make a good fortune for themselves but you really haven't

00:07:56.420 addressed the base problem now one thing again see promising out of the kenny government finally you

00:08:02.200 know seeing some action i'm surprised he waited two years before starting this battle but he proposed

00:08:06.560 a three percent wage cut for nurses in alberta like see this is where we do have to get courageous

00:08:13.660 we've got to get out there we've got to get our spending in line our biggest ticket spending items

00:08:18.540 are health care and education and the biggest parts of those are wages and we can't get around it i know

00:08:23.580 people like to talk around oh we just need to cut administration we need to cut managers yeah we do

00:08:27.140 there's room to cut there too but let's face it the vast bulk of the spending are the frontline people

00:08:32.640 it's not saying we don't value them it's not saying they're not doing important work it's not saying

00:08:36.720 they're bad people but we've got to get realistic i'm going to go on a side tangent about some of the fun i've

00:08:41.720 had in the last week you know i like to mess around on social media for those who don't follow twitter

00:08:45.700 i throw a tweet out i do that i'm as just as lovable and non-abrasive on twitter as i am on here

00:08:52.040 so i take some people off now and then but something really interesting you know when i i put one out

00:08:56.140 from it was from the taxpayers federation showing because we got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds

00:08:59.200 of nurses we're making over 130 000 a year we've got one nurse who made a quarter million dollars now

00:09:05.200 again i don't begrudge them making some decent money but when our budgets are blown we got to start

00:09:09.960 re-examining some of these things and when you look further what you find out is they've got

00:09:13.700 quite a government uh overtime scheme going on i mean if you are part-time that's why loads of them

00:09:19.700 are part-time they put their schedule out they have to put it out something like 12 weeks in advance

00:09:24.300 you get these x days say that you're not going to want to work on them you put the x on it

00:09:28.060 and then i'm not saying every nurse is doing it but we've had enough people talking about it

00:09:32.720 you get a friend to drop out of their shift you get other people to move things around well if you get put

00:09:36.480 into a shift slot that you didn't originally sign up for you get double time for that

00:09:40.220 you're going to be working a 40-hour week and half of your week is actually a double time because of

00:09:44.780 the overtime clauses in your contract with the union and people keep saying well they don't want

00:09:50.460 to bring nurses on full-time because of the benefits they would have to pay what are left the

00:09:54.340 part-time nurses with the agreements they got with the pension the benefits everything else there's

00:09:58.620 not much more difference is going to come if you've got them officially as full-time and in for 40

00:10:03.120 hours a week you know when they're threatening to strike over a three percent wage cut well why

00:10:09.540 don't we look then about streamlining what we got why don't we get them all working 40 hours a week

00:10:13.560 and at regular pay for that like everybody else in the real world has to and paying overtime for when

00:10:18.100 you go beyond that of course because it's above and beyond but either way putting that tweet out just

00:10:22.680 sent them off the handle and this has happened to me a number of times it's always with the nurses

00:10:27.360 it's interesting and it shows how you see because the civil service has been prepping for a battle the

00:10:32.460 unions for some time now and they're organized so suddenly a tweet two days after i throw it out

00:10:37.740 i've forgotten about it bang explodes on the scroll i got all these accounts just going crazy on me

00:10:42.560 calling me every name in the book a lot of them are putting out all these talking points they're

00:10:46.340 talking about how much the kenny staffers are made or talking about how much the oil field people

00:10:50.420 made and these are like american accounts i mean how would they even know the names of these

00:10:53.860 staffers the bottom line is these unions are set up and they're organized and they're smart and

00:10:58.580 they target things that are contrary to their opinion and they basically do the twitter version

00:11:02.880 of shouting it down they want to bully and push a person off of that stance because they don't want

00:11:07.820 it coming up they don't want it up for discussion and they want people scared to touch that hot potato

00:11:11.360 and it's happened to me four times now in almost the same way it's always the nurses it's kind of

00:11:16.720 like when you think of the left at universities when there's a speaker they don't like what do they

00:11:19.820 do they go standing outside of the the forum with the air horns and tambourines and drums and try and

00:11:24.460 drown out the speaker rather than actually take on the case of something they don't like or don't

00:11:29.560 agree with and we're seeing it on every front if you if you get around the city much you look and

00:11:34.360 look on lawns i mean it hasn't been an election period for two years in alberta but you've got all

00:11:39.200 of these corplast signs usually a lawn will have three or four of them because the union members are

00:11:42.800 getting these because the campaign's already on and it's the save our parks it's the anti-coal it's

00:11:46.500 the protect our teachers it's the save our nurses these listen to the radio ads look at the tv ads

00:11:51.220 these guys have been in campaign mode for two years already they got a taste of power

00:11:55.820 when notley was in for four years and they want it back and they want it in a bad way

00:12:00.300 and now jason kenney is at least he's got he knows you're never going to balance the budget unless you

00:12:06.680 take on the public sector unions uh ralph klein did it it was tough they went nuts they screamed they

00:12:13.020 yelled they protested en masse i remember it well at the legislature the irony was he cut so many

00:12:17.800 members from the civil service i saw no difference in the service what were those guys doing in the

00:12:22.500 first place i there's a lot of dead weight to be cut we have to be realistic about it but it takes a

00:12:27.820 lot of courage and a lot of leadership we'll see if kenny blinks on this i mean that's just the first

00:12:32.320 step and boy he sure took on one of the hardest because people like to canonize nurses they're saving

00:12:36.780 lives during the pandemic these are florence nightingales we can't dare uh you know cut these

00:12:42.700 nurses well we're not saying they're bad but we've got to get reasonable everything comes

00:12:47.260 with a price and a cost so open up that can of worms let's dig into it let's get her done

00:12:53.220 uh he sure picked a tough one to begin with he's picked a fight with doctors too which wasn't

00:12:58.300 appreciated and he didn't do it well but this can be done we need to do that as well with the teachers

00:13:03.420 that's another big one hiding out there and with the aupe that's the you know alberta union of

00:13:08.020 provincial employees they want a five percent raise right now you know we are in an economic

00:13:13.960 catastrophe right now we just can't afford to keep going on like this so we need some leadership

00:13:18.300 showing some balls taking on these guys who are bankrupting us let's see if the ucp can hold on

00:13:25.140 to this we'll see their record so far hasn't been terribly promising either way i got that off my

00:13:30.080 chest i'm going to get on to clinton here and we'll talk about some things on the federal front and uh

00:13:35.180 you know the election campaign that's more formal and it's approaching us fast

00:13:38.720 all right well clinton devoe is back with me good to see you clinton it's always good to get you on

00:13:45.420 that the summer's rolling along the unofficial election campaign's definitely on justin trudeau

00:13:50.280 made a surprise appearance in calgary and when we see a liberal leader in calgary we know that there's

00:13:55.380 got to be an election coming because they usually don't want to come here for for anything if they

00:13:59.440 can possibly help it uh you've always been one who's watching the polls very closely and and looking at

00:14:04.660 uh the the broader picture on the federal front so for a long time the conservatives had a really

00:14:10.080 stubborn you know gap between them and the liberals they haven't been able to close it it seems

00:14:13.760 and now we've had two polls pop up that show that maybe this race might be a little tighter than

00:14:18.100 things have been indicating uh what have you seen clinton yeah so we've seen two polls come out over

00:14:23.360 the last week one from angus reed and one from leger uh two respective polling agencies uh that have shown

00:14:31.100 that the gap between the federal liberals and the federal conservatives has shrunk somewhere between

00:14:37.460 two to three points is the spread so it looks promising uh if you're a conservative party voter

00:14:45.100 but there's still some questions and concerns around both of these polls and that and specifically

00:14:49.860 it's the regional breakdown so what we're finding when we examine the regional breakdown is the liberals

00:14:57.020 have a clear and solid lead in atlantic canada same thing in quebec a solid lead in ontario

00:15:03.780 a very competitive in british columbia uh and where we've seen a big rebound in conservative party

00:15:10.760 support tends to be in albert and saskatchewan uh after examining uh sort of a closer look at albert and

00:15:19.280 saskatchewan um the rural parts of the provinces have shown a real spike in conservative party

00:15:26.960 support uh which has helped elevate their national number but the uh the more urban areas like

00:15:34.200 edmonton and calgary for example uh it's still not uh in the bag for the conservatives and it's it's

00:15:42.580 still a competitive race uh in your two largest cities so that kind of gives us a a glimpse of

00:15:50.260 what's happening in this particular moment in time yeah well we've been seeing some movement even here

00:15:55.560 in calgary uh one of our city councillors has suddenly announced actually and by no coincidence

00:16:00.820 he was touring the city with justin trudeau so he kind of knew he was going to be going federal

00:16:04.180 uh but he's given up a very lucrative uh city councillor job to make a run for the federal liberals

00:16:10.880 in calgary he wouldn't do that if he didn't think he had a pretty good chance of winning that seat

00:16:15.140 um there's a lot of speculation that the head and edge he might be making that leap as well like

00:16:19.380 that's one of those presumptions we keep making in the west is that the liberals you know are going to

00:16:23.900 get shut out here but uh in our urban areas edmonton and calgary there's some very strong

00:16:28.320 possibilities i imagine it's the same in regina and definitely vancouver has a great deal of swing

00:16:32.760 seats going on so it's it's tough to read in a lot into these polls yet eh yeah well one of the things

00:16:37.900 to keep in mind uh the mayor of calgary i apologize his name is nenshi is that correct that's right

00:16:44.200 yeah so with mayor nenshi um i'm not 100 convinced that he's actually going to run for the federal

00:16:51.600 liberals i think of the more likely scenario is that um they would probably want to appoint him

00:16:58.540 to the senate and that's because that would allow uh the government to uh cut off the uh conservative

00:17:07.300 uh um elect or the alberta elected senate uh process that you guys have and if the federal

00:17:15.920 liberals are for whatever reason shut out in the upcoming election from alberta by having mayor

00:17:22.160 nenshi appointed to the senate they could conceivably argue that they have an albertan uh at the cabinet

00:17:30.260 table uh i can see that like in part of it it's made for fun election election speculation you know

00:17:37.340 the head's not running again uh he's young enough he's only 50 he's got a lot of ambition so he's not

00:17:43.900 going to give up but in knowing you know mayor nenshi he's a very uh vain man and and being in

00:17:50.080 the senate even though it might get him into cabinet uh that's that senate's still where you finish a

00:17:55.120 political career it's not where you keep going and uh member of parliament if he's eyeing the big chair

00:18:00.280 and that would be a guaranteed cabinet seat if he won it uh again we're just guessing at this point

00:18:05.900 i mean he might not go for either but uh it's going to be interesting to watch as that develops as

00:18:09.980 you said he would be a good one for trudeau to throw into uh the senate but it would be giving

00:18:15.400 a middle finger to albertans who are concerned about senate reform and of course would infuriate

00:18:19.340 a lot of people it's interesting to watch yeah it is and i mean one of the other things about western

00:18:24.980 canada that's doesn't get a lot of uh press as far as ink and the press goes is uh the province of

00:18:32.280 manitoba you know in manitoba we've actually seen a very close race developing uh between the liberals

00:18:39.300 and the conservatives and in fact there's even pockets of ndp strength in some ways manitoba is

00:18:45.020 kind of reminding me of a sort of a mini political version of british columbia where we see these sort

00:18:51.620 of three-way races happening depending where you are uh in that province so there's a lot of

00:18:58.060 interesting things happening in western canada and the old playbooks from 20 25 years ago they don't

00:19:03.640 necessarily apply anymore today no well and i think it's it's funny there's people have always

00:19:09.400 related you know the west the prairie provinces with conservatism but i think to be more corrected

00:19:14.180 be more like we're more inclined towards populism i mean it was a left populism in the past that was

00:19:18.500 very strong out here uh that's how the ccf came about the ndp uh you know prairie socialists so

00:19:24.260 it's not impossible in areas like manitoba saskatchewan for ndp to make inroads or perhaps

00:19:29.540 some soft liberals are you seeing much of that with the polls then uh in that breakdown yeah well

00:19:34.780 that's actually one of those things so the ndp have actually developed uh as i alluded to some

00:19:40.440 pockets of strength in manitoba uh they've obviously have some huge pockets of strength

00:19:45.580 in british columbia and bc is one of those strange places now where you actually have four-way races

00:19:50.820 because the green party is a legitimate political force uh specifically in the vancouver island area

00:19:57.460 of british columbia so that's adding a bunch of other things into the mix and of course the green

00:20:03.220 party uh is in the process of attempting to commit political suicide even though we're days away from

00:20:09.700 a national election campaign uh where their national executive is openly talking about suspending

00:20:16.500 and expelling the membership of their the leader of their own party so there's a lot of interesting

00:20:22.060 things happening right now well and the green would have typically pulled votes from you know ndp

00:20:27.420 or liberal so i imagine the the implosion of the greens uh are making the left of center candidates

00:20:32.780 all the more uh comfortable in vancouver and areas where they used to have strength or even a couple

00:20:36.320 ontario spots it's uh what a time to to pull the pin and throw a grenade into your own party like that

00:20:42.680 though i'm familiar with it in dealing with provincial parties we we love self-destructing our own parties

00:20:47.220 at the worst of times as well well one of the other issues that uh that's occurring in the west

00:20:52.560 and specifically in alberta and saskatchewan is you have uh former uh gadfly uh conservative mp maxime

00:21:01.300 bernier uh you know he's created his people's party of canada which for all intents and purposes is

00:21:07.800 basically a form of controlled opposition and uh that could spell big trouble for the conservatives

00:21:13.860 because when we look at the regional breakdown in various polls in some cases uh you know maxine

00:21:20.260 bernier is in double digits and uh the only person that benefits is the federal liberal party so you

00:21:27.540 know every person who votes for for mr bernier's party is essentially casting a vote for the federal

00:21:33.140 liberals because what that does is it essentially castrates uh the federal conservative party

00:21:38.660 yeah well it's a frustration that's the nature of conservatives things i've been watching in here

00:21:43.360 in alberta is jay hill has been very hard at it with the the maverick party i'm seeing signs already

00:21:48.100 appearing on uh roads in calgary they've got a number of candidates set up i i doubt they're going

00:21:53.500 to be in contention for any seats but again if we're talking urban seats where we might have a five

00:21:58.820 ten percent spread between those candidates if if the maverick party pulls that five percent they can

00:22:04.220 be a spoiler in a number of writings right now well the the maverick people actually have an

00:22:09.400 interesting message compared to some of the other what i like to call fringe parties so in the one

00:22:14.800 case you have the liberals and the conservatives that are both openly vying to form government

00:22:19.520 because you know generally that's what national federal political parties do they exist in order

00:22:24.380 to form government to win government uh maverick on the other hand isn't interested in forming

00:22:29.480 government they have a specific message which is basically um you know canada's not working

00:22:36.380 or or canada will never work uh you know vote for maverick uh you know it's a voice of independence

00:22:43.360 that sort of thing that's a lot different than mr bernier's message which is basically vote for me

00:22:49.660 and let's prevent conservatives from being elected in order to help liberals uh win seats so the you

00:22:57.340 maverick has a unique message which could appeal uh you know to a lot of uh frustrated albertans and

00:23:04.900 folks in saskatchewan that for various reasons are not happy with the state of confederation today

00:23:10.920 yeah i'm not seeing a lot of the rumblings from the ppc out here it does seem to be a place kind of

00:23:17.040 more for uh well maxime and the chip he has on his shoulder we'll see how that comes out and

00:23:23.260 and unfolds i guess in the in the next coming months so uh how long do you think i mean i know

00:23:28.060 you believe that the liberals are going to pull the pin really soon like part of though what does

00:23:31.600 happen and we get the unofficial campaign going on but as long as trudeau doesn't pull the pin

00:23:36.180 he can campaign basically on the taxpayers dime for a while you know he flew to calgary because he was

00:23:40.900 making a transit announcement you know it wasn't a campaign stop it was a transit announcement

00:23:44.840 he went to vancouver and did the same thing the second he calls a formal election then suddenly the

00:23:49.640 money has to come out of the liberal coffers so i suspect they might drag this out for a little bit

00:23:54.020 longer yet into the summer before they uh make it formal for us and into a fall vote perhaps so

00:23:58.860 where are you thinking there well i i agree with you wholeheartedly and i actually look i'm one of

00:24:04.580 the outliers within the conservative movement that believes that uh the liberal party may have found

00:24:10.880 a a winning election message that is enough to give them votes in uh key specific areas

00:24:19.560 that they need for a majority and the reason i argue this is because when prime minister trudeau

00:24:24.520 was in alberta over recent weeks um you know he spent his time in edmonton in calgary making

00:24:30.460 announcements connecting to public rail transit in in both of your your large urban cities and then

00:24:36.400 shortly after alberta he made the jump over to british columbia and uh made announcements for

00:24:42.360 vancouver sky train so additional extensions to the sky train uh and i really do believe that the the

00:24:51.100 federal conservatives have been looking or sorry the federal liberals uh have been looking at the

00:24:57.000 ontario provincial conservatives so doug ford's government uh over the last uh two years uh has made

00:25:05.300 a series of announcements related to subways and lrt's in the greater toronto area the greater

00:25:12.340 hamilton area that kind of thing and uh and what mr ford's government has found is as they've made those

00:25:19.220 announcements it's allowed them to pull a lot of vote uh back into the tory tent provincially

00:25:27.140 and i do think that um that the federal liberals have been examining that and uh and view that as an

00:25:36.860 opportunity for growth in uh in urban centers uh the other big announcement that uh the liberals have

00:25:44.420 been doing in order to really uh supply vote away if you will from the new democrats is they made a

00:25:52.100 series of announcements connected to uh daycare for child care so they know that british columbia is

00:25:58.540 going to be a um is going to be in play they know that in british columbia that there's this four-way

00:26:04.840 political race depending where you are in the province and they know that the new democrats that

00:26:11.540 child care is a big deal for them so by making those announcements and having the ndp premier british

00:26:18.320 columbia standing shoulder to shoulder with the prime minister on these announcements uh that

00:26:23.720 basically benefits the liberals in that you know in the in vancouver and victoria and all of those

00:26:29.000 kinds of places so look i i believe the election is going to be much sooner rather than later and in fact

00:26:35.340 i believe we're probably looking at an election call sometime in the next week or two um because the

00:26:42.160 the polling data uh you know despite a few polls that show the race tightening it still indicates

00:26:49.140 that they're in the lead so uh if you're going to call an election you do it while you're leading in

00:26:53.820 the polls not when you're behind in the polls yeah well it's always a gamble i'm sure one of their

00:26:58.680 bigger fears too is that there might be a resurgence of the pandemic and that could really negatively but

00:27:03.760 there's nothing they could do to control that and that might tempt them to go sooner rather than later

00:27:08.020 right now it seems to be looking better things are in retreat the reopening in alberta didn't turn

00:27:12.040 into a disaster uh get out there hit the ground and renew their mandate uh but it has been interesting

00:27:18.840 to see things tightening a bit at least you know with with jagmeet singh he's not setting the world

00:27:23.300 on fire uh o'toole certainly isn't either but i mean he's got the room it's it's his to take if he

00:27:29.240 could just find something that would resonate with with voters and distinguish them i mean a lot of it

00:27:33.540 seems to have been you want to you know i think you've kind of said along those lines you want to see

00:27:36.920 where o'toole is just see where the liberals were two weeks ago because uh you know he won't call it

00:27:42.000 a carbon tax but it's a carbon tax and and thus forth like uh he's swinging left rather than

00:27:46.540 swinging right to try and and oddly enough uh and and look i you know i like this member of parliament

00:27:52.420 uh michelle remple garner she's a conservative member of parliament from uh the greater calgary area

00:27:58.660 i apologize i don't know the specific writing but uh when the government uh when the prime minister

00:28:04.160 announced the uh the rail transit initiatives over the last week in calgary and edmonton in

00:28:09.280 these places michelle remple garner very quickly responded using her social media channels that

00:28:15.680 the entire conservative party caucus that's uh based in calgary uh is also supportive of uh

00:28:23.740 public rail transit and so you know to your point uh yeah look where the prime minister is today and

00:28:31.420 at some point over the next 10 to two 10 days to two weeks uh you'll see mr o'toole sort of try and

00:28:37.780 make similar announcements yeah and play catch up isn't what's going to get him past uh that that point

00:28:44.180 of managing to even win a minority government um how are things looking uh you know since we've got you

00:28:50.180 from out there in halifax like what do things look like out in the ground there i mean there's been uh

00:28:53.960 you know the progressive conservatives used to do well out that way at least are they have you got

00:28:58.200 some good candidates on the ground here and there or are things picking up a little in some spots

00:29:01.820 well uh unfortunately for the conservative party in atlantic canada uh all of its big pockets of

00:29:07.980 strength that it used to have for for generations and for decades uh so if we look at places like central

00:29:14.520 nova which is where peter mckay is from former cabinet minister co-founder of the party that

00:29:20.020 kind of thing uh brian mulrooney uh was first elected to parliament uh through the riding of

00:29:26.660 central nova uh elmer elmer mckay peter's father uh relinquished that seat in order for brian to to

00:29:33.500 get into parliament uh the conservatives are nowhere to be found um there's literally two or three places

00:29:41.140 in atlantic canada where the conservatives have a shot at winning and uh and that's it they're

00:29:47.040 primarily focused in new brunswick and again one of the worries in new brunswick is that uh that is

00:29:53.880 an area that mr bernier's uh you know party of uh of malcontents um has basically developed a small

00:30:03.980 pocket of strength that could potentially affect the outcome of conservative members of parliament

00:30:10.040 from places like tobik mack de quack uh new brunswick southwest fundy royal that kind of thing

00:30:15.420 so the old progressive conservative party uh you know its days of being a dominant force in atlantic

00:30:23.020 canada uh appears to have come to an end and uh i don't see it turning around anytime soon

00:30:30.620 unfortunately okay and then how about and i say unfortunately just to circle back i say unfortunately

00:30:36.180 because as of our as i've argued on your program many times i do believe it's incredibly important

00:30:42.100 uh for canada to have a competitive uh parliamentary party system where you have uh you know an

00:30:50.680 alternative to the government that's capable of forming government and right now i just don't see

00:30:55.640 that happening yeah so another area that's always a difficult hornet's nest to try and predict in is

00:31:01.280 quebec and the bloc you know it's funny even though it tends to be a left-leaning province provincially

00:31:06.820 uh when the quebecers go off of the bloc they often go towards conservatives and back and forth

00:31:11.940 between those two how are the bloc doing right out there right now and and how are the conservatives

00:31:16.040 looking in quebec because that's an area where sometimes they make some surprising gains

00:31:18.960 yeah so i've actually had a chance to talk to a couple of conservative members of parliament

00:31:24.080 that are from quebec and uh they're not holding out a lot of hope so there are the uh the most

00:31:32.500 eastern part of quebec almost on the new brunswick border is a community called rivière du loup and

00:31:39.620 some of your uh viewers may remember that area because a famous quebec politician by the name of

00:31:46.180 mario dumont is is from that part of quebec and that's an area that the federal conservatives

00:31:51.780 currently have now and uh that seat is in play and uh i'm hearing rumors that the the current

00:32:00.660 conservative member of parliament believes he may be in fact be behind the liberals right now

00:32:06.100 uh and we're seeing the same thing in other pockets in quebec so the bloc are doing quite well

00:32:10.740 in rural quebec and oddly enough um the federal liberals are doing really uh good in quebec right now

00:32:20.900 uh in most of the polling data that i've seen they they tend to be in first place

00:32:25.860 and usually by a significant margin sometimes in the double digits over the block so the ndp

00:32:33.700 support has essentially collapsed in quebec and the green party support is almost non-existent in quebec

00:32:45.540 mr bernie is not registering in quebec either so quebec has essentially become

00:32:50.100 uh a two-way race and sometimes a three-way race between the liberals uh the bloc quebecois and the

00:32:57.700 conservative party of canada yeah well it's all swirling it's going to be interesting to watch it's

00:33:03.540 just good to get that regional breakdown because that is so important as you said with polls they

00:33:07.460 show that national snapshot but it really matters a heck of a lot more where your votes are concentrated

00:33:12.180 as opposed to uh that that overall across the country uh picture on things so yeah and and i

00:33:18.340 mean i think it's important too for conservatives not to take albert and saskatchewan for granted

00:33:23.540 and to just assume that calgary and edmonton is going to be in the bag for them because one of the

00:33:28.820 things that the conservative party would not want uh in from my perspective as an easterner looking in

00:33:35.940 is you don't necessarily want uh the liberal party to uh to uh to form a a toehold of strength in in

00:33:45.140 your urban centers because once that starts to develop in calgary and edmonton it won't take long

00:33:51.380 for it to start to spread uh throughout all of calgary and edmonton as we've seen in urban centers all

00:33:56.820 over canada you know there was a time when the conservatives used to be competitive uh in the

00:34:02.740 toronto area and uh they're just you know you can't find them anymore uh if we look at ottawa for

00:34:09.380 example um ottawa gatineau that was an area that uh cabinet minister cannon in harper's government used

00:34:17.140 to get elected uh mr pauliev that kind of thing and now that's been reduced to just mr pauliev so what

00:34:24.420 we're seeing across the country is that conservatives are finding it more and more difficult uh to be

00:34:30.420 elected in you know canada's most populous uh places and that's our cities whether it's in vancouver

00:34:37.540 or whether it's in toronto or winnipeg or ottawa or halifax or what have you so my advice to

00:34:43.940 conservatives is to really get out there and start organizing uh in calgary and edmonton because if you

00:34:50.420 don't and you take it for granted you may end up uh seeing a number of liberal mps being elected there

00:34:56.660 yeah no and they get those toeholds and they're going to be my words not yours but it's more like

00:35:00.340 as you almost framed it in an infectious disease because once you got a couple in there they can

00:35:04.500 start spreading and it becomes a bigger problem so it's better to uh take a prophylactic approach and

00:35:10.180 not get those liberals into your city in the first place and the conservatives have really got to take care

00:35:14.260 with that there's no doubt so i i really appreciate that we'll definitely have to check in once the

00:35:18.420 elections called it which may or may not be really soon it's definitely going to be happening you know

00:35:23.300 quite soon without doubt where can people uh keep up with what you're up to and how you're tracking

00:35:28.100 things and speaking on things clinton yeah so i as you as your uh viewers can see on the screen

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00:35:49.060 they can find me right on well thanks again for coming on clinton and uh as i said i'm certain

00:35:53.940 we'll be talking again soon great thank you very much to you and your viewers looking forward to

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Cory Morgan Show July 23, 2021

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