Western Standard - CORY MORGAN SHOW： Pipelines must be an election plank

00:00:00.000 Good day, welcome to the Corey Morgan Show.

00:00:29.980 So, 45 minutes to try and make sense of the insanity of whatever's going on in North America, around the world, all over.

00:00:37.580 Just an abundance of issues to try and cover and talk about.

00:00:40.700 I've picked out a few, and we will dissect them and sort them out.

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00:00:57.080 Just try to keep things civil.

00:00:58.180 We can fight better on X.

00:01:00.240 That's a better platform for that.

00:01:02.180 So, in a little bit, I'm going to have Emmanuel Foubert of the Montreal Economic Institute on.

00:01:06.640 We're going to talk about health care in Alberta, and pretty much in every province, it's the same sort of issues going on.

00:01:11.820 I mean, I know everything else is dominated with the federal issues, and we're going to talk about a lot of that.

00:01:15.260 But we can't forget that all the other stuff is still happening while all of our federal nightmare is going on, and we still have to address those issues.

00:01:23.720 Can't let them fall by the wayside.

00:01:25.860 So, let's start things out to get things rolling on how we pay our bills.

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00:02:05.240 All right, an E-sharp checking in there saying 51st state.

00:02:08.180 Yeah, that discussion is carrying on.

00:02:10.160 It's another one that's going on.

00:02:11.580 Either way, getting on.

00:02:13.120 Canada.

00:02:13.640 I mean, we're in a crisis right now, federally.

00:02:15.320 It's a crisis. 0.81

00:02:15.920 There's no getting around it, at least in the immediate term, with Trump's ridiculous tariffs. 0.99

00:02:20.220 And they are ridiculous. 0.96

00:02:20.880 But how that mess is going to be resolved remains to be seen. 1.00

00:02:24.300 And it certainly doesn't help that Canada's parliament is prorogued, and the prime minister is a complete lame duck.

00:02:29.580 If nothing else, Canadians have suddenly discovered, though, how vulnerable they've let themselves become due to strangling the ability to export oil and gas products for decades.

00:02:38.420 Canada has an abundance of resources, but the one that the USA values the most out of us are our petroleum products.

00:02:44.200 And if the nation were ever to dream of putting serious pressure on the United States in a trade war, it would have to be through reducing exports.

00:02:50.880 As it stands, though, the USA for our exports purchases over 90% of our oil and gas.

00:02:58.560 They have a buyer's monopoly and allows Trump to shake Canada like a dog with a ragdoll.

00:03:03.560 Pipelines and export infrastructure take time to construct.

00:03:07.020 In fact, in Canada, they take an impossibly long time.

00:03:10.160 That's why investors have fled.

00:03:11.760 Projects have been canceled.

00:03:12.820 And the federal government found itself purchasing the Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion.

00:03:16.280 Now, the entire nation is paying a terrible price for the short-sighted policies of an anti-energy government.

00:03:22.900 But we have an opportunity approaching.

00:03:24.320 Let's meet with some optimism for a change.

00:03:25.780 We can fast-track pipeline and export terminal construction in a way like we've never seen before.

00:03:30.820 And that opportunity is the upcoming federal election.

00:03:33.540 It's going to be called at some point.

00:03:35.340 And in a democratic nation, nothing provides a more solid mandate than receiving the stamp of approval from voters in a general election.

00:03:41.940 It's the one time when every Canadian has the opportunity to express themselves on issues and who they want to be governed by.

00:03:47.540 I know it doesn't work in the long run necessarily, but that's our best chance.

00:03:51.280 Now, Quebec's been the main hindrance in getting energy infrastructure constructed to the East Coast.

00:03:55.500 They use the nonsense term of social license and claim Canada doesn't have this imaginary license to build a pipeline.

00:04:01.880 Well, what better way, then, let's play the game, is there to garner this supposed license than to have it on the ballot, essentially, in a general election?

00:04:08.760 Pipeline capacity expansion has the highest public support levels right now than it's probably ever had in Canada.

00:04:14.100 No major party is going to lose a significant degree of support by campaigning on getting pipelines built across the nation right now.

00:04:21.380 I mean, leftists, they despise Trump and Putin even more than they dislike pipelines.

00:04:26.360 If Canada gets pipeline access to the East Coast, Canada will no longer need to purchase $200 million a year in Russian oil.

00:04:32.900 And they could snipe some European oil and gas customers from Putin as well.

00:04:36.240 With increased access to the West Coast, Canada can send its oil and gas products to the energy-hungry South Asian markets

00:04:41.780 and reduce the discount we get on selling to the American buyers on the other side of the border.

00:04:47.200 What leftists could resist the temptation to offer an economic middle finger to both Trump and Putin at the same time?

00:04:53.160 Now, aside from the spite aspect, increasing Canada's ability to export energy products just makes good economic sense.

00:04:58.740 Every business does better when it has a broader customer market.

00:05:01.320 The only factor making pipeline construction economically unviable to both coasts is the government.

00:05:07.200 Regulations and delays kill investment in its tracks and it costs a fortune.

00:05:11.020 It's a very easy problem to solve, though.

00:05:13.280 The government has all the tools.

00:05:14.760 We don't need more consultations.

00:05:16.520 We don't need more studies.

00:05:17.920 It's all been done for both the Northern Gateway and the Energy Ease proposal.

00:05:21.080 Nothing's changed.

00:05:21.720 The mountains are in the same place.

00:05:23.320 The pipelines need the same routes.

00:05:24.880 And the same chronic opponents are going to piss and moan about it.

00:05:26.980 So, let them piss and moan. 1.00

00:05:28.400 No further studies, no licenses, no consultations are going to change that.

00:05:31.480 The government must declare these lines of the national interest, approve them, clear the way, and get them done.

00:05:36.860 We don't need the government building them.

00:05:38.360 We've seen how well that works in the Trans Mountain expansion.

00:05:40.360 Private industry, though, they would be willing, but they need rock-solid guarantees.

00:05:43.500 A right-of-way must be charted across the country, and the naysayers need to be basically told to get stuffed. 1.00

00:05:47.960 The first Trans Mountain pipeline went across some of the roughest terrain in North America, and it was done in 18 months with 1950s technology. 0.96

00:05:54.140 We can build them quickly if we just get the government's, at all level, out of the damn way.

00:05:59.660 Trump's going to be in office for the better part of four years still. 0.84

00:06:03.540 If he sees Earth moving on new Canadian pipelines to the East and West by the end of this first year, he's going to take notice.

00:06:09.480 Every major party must, they must, put the immediate construction of pipelines within their platforms.

00:06:14.900 The biggest consultation of them all is an election.

00:06:17.160 With that under their belt, whoever wins will have all the social license they need to get it done.

00:06:21.540 And there will be no better time to do that than this year.

00:06:24.420 To dally? Well, that's just going to let the activists and bureaucrats slither into the project, and they'll never get done. 1.00

00:06:29.060 If that gets done, if that happens, can it, might as well get used to being the kid getting the sand kicked in its face at the beach.

00:06:34.500 Because if this nation can't even build a bloody pipeline to the coast, it deserves to be pushed around.

00:06:39.280 Well, that's what I got to say.

00:06:41.060 To start things off today, that's all I'm going to say about that.

00:06:43.280 Hey Dave, how's it going? We've got our news editor here with the other stories.

00:06:46.200 You know, Corey, you think about what's happened in the last seven days since we last talked.

00:06:50.020 It's incredible. I mean, every day is just, like, historic, it seems.

00:06:54.740 You know, from the Zelensky White House to tariffs, it's just crazy.

00:06:59.180 I mean, what's the term? I always mispronounce that, though I write it quite often. Mercurial.

00:07:03.720 You know, I mean, you just don't know where Trump is going.

00:07:06.640 I mean, he's a kid with ADD on, you know, speed, and he just bounces all over the map.

00:07:13.520 I mean, nobody can track what he's going to do.

00:07:14.700 And you've been poking the waspiness of Trumpsters, haven't you?

00:07:17.540 A little bit, yes.

00:07:18.600 The team orange man have been upset with me lately, but I'm sorry.

00:07:22.900 I'm tired of it.

00:07:23.940 But he's not doing anybody any favours on either side of the border right now.

00:07:29.000 No, no, he's talking about making a whole new order, or new world order.

00:07:32.560 It's crazy.

00:07:33.360 So our strong polls right now is putting together a story on Trump's tweets this morning mocking Governor Trudeau.

00:07:39.640 So hopefully that's up now, because he was supposed to do it while I was in here.

00:07:44.460 Other stuff making the news this morning.

00:07:46.920 We've got a guy who was convicted of second-degree murder in 2020, arrested in Brooks with a pound of meth.

00:07:56.160 So, and a gun.

00:07:57.480 Forgot that loaded, loaded Glock.

00:08:00.100 Yeah, it was Abdullah, if I recall.

00:08:01.320 You know, it was a second-degree murder, four years.

00:08:03.720 I mean, I don't, it doesn't add up, you know, how these guys are getting out.

00:08:07.360 But lots of other Canadian election, liberal election follow.

00:08:12.080 We've got, ironically, Chrystia Freeland says she's going to make Mark Carney her finance minister. 0.99

00:08:18.360 Hey, you remember all the, when she finally quit the role, there was a lot of talk about Carney replacing her.

00:08:24.880 So now the shoe is on the other foot.

00:08:27.420 Our James Bukaboom up in, sorry, James Bukaboom, James Snell up in Edmonton has interviewed Jim Bukaboom from Commodities.

00:08:40.500 What's the name?

00:08:41.360 Buzicom, yes.

00:08:43.160 Market Commodities.

00:08:44.460 Market Commodities.

00:08:44.800 Yeah, they're going on Lethbridge.

00:08:45.840 Oh, great, guys.

00:08:46.520 About how the tariffs are going to affect grains.

00:08:49.500 Yes.

00:08:49.840 And that kind of stuff.

00:08:51.820 And, as you know, Mark Carney was in town last night holding a big election event.

00:08:57.700 And we tried to go along to the press conference.

00:09:01.860 And our Sean Polzer was denied entry by the Carney people.

00:09:07.280 And there's some good video taken by his colleague, Jen Hudson.

00:09:10.720 That's up there on the site.

00:09:12.180 And I encourage you to read Sean's column about how Carney is hiding behind the skirts of 20-year-old students.

00:09:18.400 Absolutely.

00:09:18.840 Yeah, that video was just sad.

00:09:22.140 I really did feel for the volunteer, you know.

00:09:24.420 I mean, that's just the cowardly thing.

00:09:25.720 Just stick the young person at the door to try and, you know, explain why people who have been invited to the conference are...

00:09:31.920 Yeah, and we had an invite.

00:09:33.140 And she said, okay, just give me a second.

00:09:34.940 And, you know, she seemed willing to let us in.

00:09:36.700 We have the other mainstream media.

00:09:38.360 And then she obviously got told behind the curtain.

00:09:40.800 And she came back out and was, like, shaking a little bit.

00:09:43.560 And said, I'm sorry, you can't come in.

00:09:45.300 Yeah, well, you're a volunteer.

00:09:46.280 You don't...

00:09:46.620 Is that a million?

00:09:47.440 Is it like...

00:09:47.680 Poor volunteer.

00:09:48.060 You get at least a staffer who's making some bucks to take on.

00:09:50.700 Yeah, I know George Sahol was probably behind the decision.

00:09:53.080 Well, then you gotta check your wallet and everything.

00:09:54.480 Yeah, there's probably, you know, Ports Pirate himself.

00:09:57.020 Yeah.

00:09:57.780 All right.

00:09:59.460 That's it?

00:10:00.260 That's it.

00:10:00.720 That's all.

00:10:01.220 That's just this morning, I'm sure.

00:10:02.800 I know.

00:10:03.500 All hell will break loose this afternoon as it usually does.

00:10:06.160 Oh, I don't doubt it.

00:10:07.080 All right.

00:10:07.440 Well, thank you for the update.

00:10:08.500 I'll let you get back to cracking the whip on those reporters to keep those stories rolling. 0.98

00:10:12.400 And we'll talk to you after the show.

00:10:14.000 Thanks for it.

00:10:14.580 Right on.

00:10:15.080 And that is our news editor, Dave Naylor.

00:10:18.280 As you can hear, yes, lots breaking.

00:10:20.100 It's just constant and it's changing by the minute, by the hour.

00:10:25.440 So, again, the reason we have those reporters going out to these events, even if they aren't

00:10:31.240 allowed into them and writing on the things that we are allowed to get into and so on

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00:11:01.080 So, yeah, on the federal front, you know, it's funny.

00:11:04.200 And you can get those stories, it says, at thewesternstandard.news and you can see the

00:11:08.660 videos.

00:11:09.580 And it's just, it's been interesting.

00:11:11.940 Carney has been kept away from the press.

00:11:15.300 They are really shielding him from any critical press.

00:11:19.420 All of the politicians lately, it seems the trend is to go down to American outlets.

00:11:24.480 I mean, Premier Smith was on MSNBC the other night.

00:11:28.000 Carney has been doing American shows, a tweak there.

00:11:31.980 She's been doing American stuff down south of the border as well.

00:11:36.800 But they aren't talking to Canadian media and they certainly aren't willing to have

00:11:40.240 any critical things like a press conference.

00:11:43.020 And that's what this Carney event was in North Calgary.

00:11:45.780 So, they sent out invitations and that's what happened.

00:11:48.840 So, media outlets got these invitations, these letters saying, you know, come cover this

00:11:52.360 thing, ask some questions.

00:11:54.120 So, Jen and Sean showed up and they had their letter, their invitation, but they gave it in.

00:12:00.080 And then, yes, this poor young volunteer goes back, says, okay, just a moment, I'll be right

00:12:03.780 back.

00:12:04.120 And she comes back and says, I'm sorry, you're not allowed in here.

00:12:06.600 So, what do you mean?

00:12:07.760 We've got this letter you invited.

00:12:09.120 Well, I'm sorry, you're just not allowed in.

00:12:11.400 So, the Western Standard is basically, it's banned from covering Carney's conferences.

00:12:16.180 But talk about weak.

00:12:19.560 How weak is he?

00:12:21.540 You know, if your candidate is your strength, your intent is to get the candidate in front

00:12:29.360 of as many people as possible.

00:12:31.200 And yes, some outlets are going to be more critical than others, but if your candidate

00:12:35.000 can present themselves well, if they can give the answers, if they can do their job, you

00:12:39.960 shouldn't be frightened of getting them in front of people.

00:12:42.240 In fact, you should be eager to get them in front of people.

00:12:44.700 I know once elections get going, usually, you know, the hard part with shows like this

00:12:49.820 is you get, you know, every campaign is throwing out, hey, you know, get our candidate on for

00:12:53.100 this, that, this, that, you know, you can only book so many people for so many things.

00:12:56.780 Yet, Carney is hiding.

00:12:59.120 And I mean, he made that terrible, you know, goofy mistake with, what is it, some sort of

00:13:06.100 electrical item that was manufactured, I don't know.

00:13:09.580 But he basically was BSing and he said Canada was one of these top manufacturers for this.

00:13:13.720 So Trudeau Canada hasn't manufactured them at all.

00:13:15.520 And it turned into quite an embarrassment.

00:13:17.700 And Carney's been getting mocked on social media for a number of other things.

00:13:21.280 So their answer, though, is, is to hide them from it.

00:13:23.600 Do we have somebody again, like, like Trudeau?

00:13:26.080 I mean, Trudeau, you can see his biggest problem is always when he goes off script, when he tries

00:13:30.440 to think, you know, he, Trudeau can read a teleprompter.

00:13:34.320 Trudeau can listen to the earpiece and say what he's told.

00:13:37.520 That's why he always does that little, uh, glass of water, uh, semiconductors.

00:13:41.860 Thank you, Jacqueline.

00:13:43.060 Uh, that's the item that Carney was talking about.

00:13:46.260 But yeah, Justin, you know, he gets the question asked and of course, uh, now it's off script.

00:13:50.100 So he stops.

00:13:51.120 He takes a slow, slow drink of water while the voice in his ear tells him what he's supposed

00:13:56.000 to say.

00:13:57.680 Carney, as we thought was, at least he's a liberal.

00:14:00.140 He's scary.

00:14:00.640 That was the scary part.

00:14:01.560 He's supposed to be smarter than Justin.

00:14:03.340 And that's pretty low bar to begin with.

00:14:05.160 So, you know, you would have thought that, uh, uh, he'd be able to answer these questions,

00:14:09.620 get on the spot, do these things.

00:14:11.660 And he doesn't appear to be, which is really interesting.

00:14:16.000 Uh, Carney is a political creature, but not an electoral one, right?

00:14:20.120 I mean, he's always been there.

00:14:22.740 Governor of the Bank of Canada, very tightly tied to politicians, of course, at high levels,

00:14:27.240 uh, Bank of England later on, but a different, it's a different animal to campaign to get in

00:14:33.120 front of people, to get in front of voters, to get in front of media.

00:14:36.200 And it doesn't look like he's adjusting very well to it.

00:14:39.820 And the polls have been interesting in the elections.

00:14:41.820 So we've been seeing a bounce, a surge, and, uh, it looked like the liberals have been gaining

00:14:48.760 ground.

00:14:49.220 But now in the latest poll, it looks like they've dropped yet again.

00:14:53.920 It's volatile.

00:14:55.200 That's the only way to put it right now.

00:14:56.500 People don't know where they want to go.

00:14:58.360 And we are in such terrible flux.

00:15:00.200 I mean, we've got, again, a prime minister, we don't know where he's going to be in short

00:15:04.140 time.

00:15:04.420 We don't know who the next one's going to be.

00:15:05.380 We don't know when the next election is going to be.

00:15:07.380 And it's just a, a brutal period of transition we're stuck in.

00:15:11.280 So we'll see how that irons out.

00:15:12.860 But now we're going to bring things back a little closer and, uh, bring in, uh, Emmanuel

00:15:17.520 Faubert of the Montreal Economic Institute.

00:15:19.580 Cause they said healthcare is a big issue.

00:15:21.220 It's an important one.

00:15:22.000 And they put out an interesting piece recently on, uh, uh, congestion basically of beds in,

00:15:27.840 uh, acute care centers, basically hospitals.

00:15:30.640 And a lot of hospital beds are taken up by people that really probably shouldn't be in

00:15:34.640 the hospital.

00:15:35.460 So, uh, thank you, uh, very much, uh, Emmanuel, for, for joining us today.

00:15:39.940 My pleasure.

00:15:40.860 Thank you for having me.

00:15:42.260 So your, your piece put out, it's, it'd be up to 10%.

00:15:46.280 That's just in Alberta, but I imagine this is probably a cross country problem.

00:15:49.200 We, we have a lot of people taking up hospital space that, that would probably belong in a long

00:15:54.640 term center.

00:15:55.080 Exactly.

00:15:56.640 Exactly.

00:15:57.160 So we had a lot of what we call alternate level of care patients.

00:16:00.760 So this means that these are patients that still require healthcare services, but not

00:16:06.440 acute care or hospital services, but due to not having any other options, they end up stuck

00:16:12.560 in those hospital beds and taking and using hospitals resources for uses that are not supposed

00:16:20.820 to be.

00:16:21.260 Yeah, they're, they're not supposed to be seniors care center or people with long-term

00:16:25.040 disabilities.

00:16:25.660 I've seen that happen in, in hospitals as well, that perhaps, uh, facilities that would

00:16:29.540 be better suited are, are getting, getting full.

00:16:31.640 So somebody with a long-term disability of some sort is, is almost warehoused in a hospital.

00:16:35.900 But if you had an emergency, or as we saw with COVID, that those beds run out very fast.

00:16:40.680 Exactly.

00:16:41.140 That's how we end up with hallway of medicine where we have people in closets or straight up

00:16:46.760 in the hallway, so I, I, I would imagine though, the solution is, is to build or construct or bring

00:16:53.000 in more long-term facilities and centers for patients to go to.

00:16:56.320 So we aren't using the hospitals that way, but what were the hindrances?

00:16:59.240 Why are governments not doing that then?

00:17:01.140 So there's always constantly efforts to building and transforming and creating new spaces.

00:17:06.940 that's, that's always being done.

00:17:09.540 But what we're seeing is that the demand for these beds grows faster than the creation.

00:17:15.880 So what we're seeing is that despite all the new beds, there's always more demand, which

00:17:21.740 means that people wait a long time before getting access to those.

00:17:25.740 Another solution would be to look into home care services.

00:17:30.380 I mean, if you look in Europe, like in Germany or the Netherlands, they have a model where

00:17:36.040 they promote home care services, whether that is home health services or home support.

00:17:42.720 So whether that is the help of a nurse practitioner or the help of someone to just help them cook,

00:17:48.780 clean, or take a bath.

00:17:50.700 This, these services are less costly than hospital services or institutional services and would

00:17:57.620 help people stay longer at home and also free up hospital spaces.

00:18:02.080 So, uh, I, I guess perhaps there's some of the issue with this, I mean, a lot of those

00:18:07.360 services, I've heard some of them advertised too, there's private services that do it, but

00:18:11.200 have we got a, an ideological hangup?

00:18:13.160 I mean, that's a lot of a battle that's going on in Alberta is outsourcing, for example,

00:18:16.320 specialized procedures to private medical centers.

00:18:19.300 Uh, is there perhaps some resistance to outsourcing to private providers for home care or even long-term

00:18:24.860 care facilities?

00:18:25.560 Definitely.

00:18:26.680 If we look into long-term care facilities, a lot of it is controlled by the public system.

00:18:33.100 For example, patients are directed by the public system to the different homes if they're not

00:18:41.180 managed by the public home, by, by the public system.

00:18:43.940 So if there was more flexibility in that regard, that would also help because having all the eggs

00:18:49.060 in the same basket does not really work as we're seeing right now.

00:18:52.060 So have you been in communication, like the Alberta government's the one you highlighted,

00:18:56.800 but have you talked to governments, are you seeing initiatives coming down the line to

00:18:59.980 perhaps address this problem right now?

00:19:02.020 The initiatives we see all around is creating more beds.

00:19:05.460 That's definitely an initiative that we're seeing across the board.

00:19:09.440 Um, beyond that, there's a lot of restructuring that is being done in many places.

00:19:13.200 So that, that will probably come down the line eventually.

00:19:16.260 So, uh, the new beds, I mean, that's, that's, that's a term we hear a lot, you know, we hear

00:19:22.660 that in healthcare a lot.

00:19:23.640 It's always about the beds.

00:19:24.780 Usually they're talking about hospitals though.

00:19:26.620 They're talking about a centralized care model, uh, would, uh, as well, uh, decentralized models,

00:19:34.000 as you said, in European countries, uh, you know, how is, is that working out though?

00:19:38.420 Is that, uh, government funded for, for, for new centers or, or, or are they paying for

00:19:44.300 the private ones again to provide these?

00:19:46.520 Well, there's a variety of model, but if we look into, um, the model I was telling, talking

00:19:52.120 about, which is called cash for care, that model is done through an insurance scheme.

00:19:58.760 And the way it works is that then the patients are given an envelope.

00:20:03.100 They're giving the choice of either go for the institutional route and go with the healthcare

00:20:08.520 provided by the state, or they can get an envelope of money that will then be used to get home

00:20:15.840 care services or home care supplies.

00:20:18.600 So that's, that's one of the model that is being used and that it seems to be working

00:20:23.080 well for the population.

00:20:24.720 So it's, it's interesting.

00:20:25.620 It sounds almost like a, in a healthcare method of a voucher system is used for education.

00:20:30.520 Let, let the individual choose the facility that best suits them or the type of care that

00:20:34.820 best suits them rather than just having one standardized manner of it.

00:20:38.500 Exactly.

00:20:39.100 It gives patients the autonomy and the freedom to choose what care services best suit their needs.

00:20:47.660 Um, do you think maybe some of the hangup might be a little bit on it when, you know,

00:20:51.140 unfortunately it comes to liability, the lawyers get into things.

00:20:54.380 If somebody was kept in home care and incident happened, you know, it ended poorly.

00:20:59.500 And then somebody would say, well, that's the government's fault because they weren't in

00:21:01.820 the proper facility, having full-time care.

00:21:04.640 So for example, in the, the model I'm talking about, the, the way it works is that there's

00:21:08.960 also community-based, um, visual vigilance, in the sense that they're making sure that the

00:21:15.560 care that the patients are paying for is being provided and that's, it is the correct care

00:21:20.480 for them.

00:21:20.860 So there is maybe akin to a social worker, making sure that the care is being provided.

00:21:26.180 Okay.

00:21:28.000 And so that, that one in 10, as you said, how, how did you determine that the way?

00:21:33.020 How do you get those statistics when you, you go to acute care facilities and hospitals

00:21:37.040 to find out who has been taking up which spaces?

00:21:39.800 So essentially it's, it's, can be a very complicated measure, but then, then they look

00:21:44.780 into a patient when they don't need that space anymore.

00:21:48.780 They technically could be discharged, but due to a lack of space elsewhere, they cannot

00:21:54.680 be properly discharged.

00:21:56.500 So then they are counted.

00:21:57.600 We count each day that a patient spends in that, in that position as alternate level of

00:22:02.940 care days.

00:22:04.320 And if you count for all those days in proportion to the entire stay and the number of beds,

00:22:10.400 that's how you end up with these numbers.

00:22:12.480 So have you been, um, are, are different provinces doing some different initiatives across

00:22:17.460 the country as well?

00:22:18.280 I mean, we were under all under the Canada Health Act, but of course it's administered

00:22:22.100 by the provinces.

00:22:22.980 Have there been better models in, in other parts of the country?

00:22:26.400 I would not be able to tell you more about that, but I know that a lot of effort is being

00:22:31.100 put to improve our long-term care for patients.

00:22:36.300 And a lot of it is being done through creating new long-term care spaces, but there seems to

00:22:43.540 be a bit of a push to try to have more home care services. 1.00

00:22:46.300 Because let's, let's be clear, most alternate level of care patients are elderly and most

00:22:52.980 elderly would rather age at home than in an institution. 0.53

00:22:57.840 Absolutely.

00:22:58.520 I mean, we also hear of, you know, people basically kind of getting divorced by senior

00:23:02.380 center, you know, when, when one has to go into a care center, but the other go, there

00:23:05.520 isn't space for both of them and they end up in separate spaces.

00:23:07.760 If they could be kept at home, uh, again, you could keep potentially couples together,

00:23:12.120 uh, much longer into their retirement, I would imagine.

00:23:13.960 Definitely, because also let's, let's be clear, these long-term care, long-term care

00:23:20.640 spaces are designed to take care of patients that have a variety of medical needs.

00:23:25.900 And the thing is that if a patient, let's say only needs someone to help them take their

00:23:31.280 medication on the daily or do the dishes or clean, they don't need necessarily the level

00:23:37.420 of care that is provided in, in, in a long-term care home.

00:23:41.680 That is why ensuring that these people that have, let's say less complicated need can stay

00:23:46.520 home, frees up long-term care spaces for people that have more complex needs as well.

00:23:52.900 Yeah.

00:23:53.140 So, uh, I guess is some of the hindrance, perhaps a bit of the labor pool too, though.

00:23:57.340 I mean, it would, uh, it's labor intensive to care for people, no matter how you look at it.

00:24:01.120 But if you centralize it, theoretically, you could do it with perhaps a smaller pool of

00:24:04.180 people versus ones who are going around to a broader area for home care.

00:24:08.260 I'm just playing devil's advocate.

00:24:09.860 Uh, would, would we be able to train and, and, and draw the people to be able to maintain

00:24:14.060 that sort of care for people?

00:24:16.060 Well, let's be clear.

00:24:17.500 Hospital care is more, a lot, is a lot more labor intensive than just taking care of

00:24:23.820 long-term care patients or even home support.

00:24:26.060 So resources are being used in hospitals are a lot more intensive and are a lot more

00:24:34.020 costly, uh, take a lot more resources than long-term care and home care services.

00:24:40.820 Also home care services, they're not just health related.

00:24:44.540 They can also be, as previously mentioned, support type care.

00:24:49.460 So these are also less intensive in terms of resources, but also in terms of knowledge

00:24:55.700 and ability.

00:24:57.460 Well, and I would imagine it's good for people's mental health as well.

00:25:00.220 I mean, most people don't want to be in a institutional environment.

00:25:03.700 And we know that if your mental health declines, your physiological health can often follow quickly.

00:25:07.700 If you're in your household, you're, you're going to have more access to your friends,

00:25:11.100 your neighbors, and people coming by versus being in a, in a hospital bed.

00:25:14.300 So, I mean, you know, switching to more of that model could pay off on a number of levels.

00:25:18.220 I imagine definitely there's been studies that have shown that the elderly that were in more

00:25:25.420 home environments, either more homestyle institutional care or home at home directly had better mental

00:25:33.100 health outcomes compared to more medical institutions.

00:25:38.060 Great.

00:25:38.380 Well, uh, so you're going to, was this presented or sent at least to the health minister and such,

00:25:42.860 or you're, you're trying to work with them to hope for a better policy formula?

00:25:45.660 I wish, formula.

00:25:46.780 It is, it is publicly available.

00:25:49.260 And if they want to discuss ways that we can improve wait times for long-term care services

00:25:55.020 in Alberta and thus help overcrowding in hospital, then we'll be happy to discuss.

00:25:59.820 Excellent.

00:26:00.220 Well, uh, before I let you go, then where could people find your, your paper to, uh, you know,

00:26:03.980 see this in, in more detail?

00:26:05.180 So you can reach it at www.iedn.org.

00:26:10.780 Okay.

00:26:11.180 And that's the, the, the Montreal Economic Institute.

00:26:14.460 I just like to, I've had guests from your, your group, you're great, you know, on a number of

00:26:18.380 times, it's not just a Montreal or Quebec focused by any means, uh, you, you cover issues across

00:26:22.700 the country, right?

00:26:23.340 Definitely.

00:26:24.300 So we started in Montreal 26 years ago now, and we're in also in Calgary and Ottawa now.

00:26:32.700 Excellent.

00:26:33.100 Well, I, I thank you very much for that work.

00:26:34.780 And, you know, just pointing out, we need more healthcare solutions.

00:26:36.780 Lots of people are pointing out the problems and just pointing out, okay, we have a problem

00:26:40.380 with a 10% of the people being within there.

00:26:42.540 How can we deal with reducing that while still caring for people?

00:26:45.820 So I, I appreciate that work and, and you're coming on to talk to us today about it.

00:26:50.140 Thank you.

00:26:50.460 It was my pleasure.

00:26:51.660 All right.

00:26:52.140 I hope we get to talk again soon.

00:26:55.260 So again, as, as the Montreal Economic Institute and yes, they, they're a great site and you can

00:26:59.100 see they do some good common sense work.

00:27:01.660 They do some studies, there's resources on there.

00:27:04.140 Check them out, Google them.

00:27:05.660 And you know, I, I think that's, it's one of the only things that kind of holds them back

00:27:08.460 a little.

00:27:08.620 People assume it's just something based out of Montreal.

00:27:10.300 That's the problem when you attach a, a region to the name of your group.

00:27:13.340 But no, they, they talk about things across the country and often a lot of Western things.

00:27:17.260 They talk about on energy issues often as well and cover things really, really well.

00:27:22.540 I mean, it's good common sense talk, right?

00:27:24.940 All of us, if we think about the same thing, if we get to our later years, you want to be

00:27:28.700 in your home as long as possible.

00:27:32.780 And I mean, our, our healthcare resources are strained.

00:27:35.740 They're, they're, they're, they're overwhelmed.

00:27:38.380 I mean, part of the, you know, I've talked about that a number of times.

00:27:40.940 The Canada Health Act itself strangles us.

00:27:44.380 I mean, there's only so many things a province can do.

00:27:46.940 And I, I get in those debates because every opposition party in every province screams

00:27:52.460 at the government for not providing healthcare right.

00:27:54.540 The problem is you can't provide it right.

00:27:56.780 Our system is broken and they aren't allowed to diversify the amount of services.

00:28:01.900 So the, the provinces, you know, the NDP are in BC and guess what?

00:28:05.740 Their healthcare is overwhelmed.

00:28:07.340 And the UCP is in Alberta and guess what?

00:28:09.340 Healthcare is overwhelmed.

00:28:10.700 Uh, one of the issues and the excuses, the excuses they made for the overreaction and the

00:28:17.340 lockdowns and things during the, the COVID pandemic was that we can't have our hospitals

00:28:23.900 becoming overwhelmed.

00:28:25.820 You know, even when it was getting pretty clear that COVID is virtually harmless to people under

00:28:32.220 18 who are healthy and that the survival rate for COVID is extremely high, unless you

00:28:37.260 have a bunch of comorbidities, it still made enough vulnerable people quite sick that they

00:28:44.220 would overwhelm the hospital quite quickly because our hospitals are always operating already right

00:28:49.260 on the brink of being full.

00:28:52.220 So then they'd say, well, then we have to, you know, lock everybody down and stop the spread of

00:28:56.780 this 14 days to flatten the curve and all that baloney and everything and the price that we're still

00:29:00.460 paying for all of that mess today.

00:29:01.980 But still, one of the things we should be looking at in hindsight then is why are our hospitals

00:29:07.100 always on the brink of collapse?

00:29:08.700 Always.

00:29:09.740 And part of the, well, 10% of those beds are taken up by people who should be in long-term

00:29:14.620 facilities, not in an acute care hospital.

00:29:18.380 This ties in, unfortunately, to some of the things that Premier Smith has been trying in Alberta

00:29:24.620 to get surgical centers outside of the general hospital, because we don't need to have

00:29:28.940 everything in that centralized location. I mean, again, if another pandemic comes, a real one,

00:29:34.380 a bad one, and we do have our hospitals being overwhelmed, part of the problem that happened

00:29:38.140 with COVID was a bunch of procedures got put off because they were all supposed to be done in a

00:29:43.580 general hospital and they couldn't do them. If they're in outside freestanding facilities,

00:29:49.340 we could still get people's hip and knee replacements done, get those items off the 0.81

00:29:55.260 healthcare list while still maintaining a general hospital to deal with people with more acute

00:29:59.420 things. But instead, we stuff everything into one centralized monster, and it's a giant bureaucracy.

00:30:07.180 But we don't know what the heck's going on now in Alberta because there's a big scandal that's

00:30:12.380 broken out because leave it to government to make a mess, it sounds like. And we're still

00:30:16.940 waiting for the details. Now, there's going to be an independent inquiry in Alberta

00:30:20.380 over what might be, I mean, we don't know yet. There's a whole bunch of allegations pushing all

00:30:25.420 over the place. But basically, uh, there might have been some backdoor type of deals or at least

00:30:31.500 some sole sourcing going to people who are going to get those private facilities pulling it out of

00:30:34.780 there. I mean, people are receptive of, uh, getting into, uh, you know, broadening care and

00:30:43.020 new options, but they do want to make sure that, uh, they're getting the best bang for the buck.

00:30:49.020 They want to make sure that somebody is not lining their pockets with health care dollars.

00:30:51.820 That's what mortifies people. They want those health dollars to be focused on health care.

00:30:58.380 Uh, you know, getting to the patient, either way, it just makes a lot of sense, right?

00:31:02.700 I mean, a person can make the rounds. I listened to, you know, on talk radio and so on. You quite often

00:31:07.260 hear, um, ads for one of those home care, uh, things, and they talk about the family keeping mom

00:31:12.460 at home longer and everything else, but that private service, I mean, they talk about it starting

00:31:16.860 at a, I believe a couple or a few thousand dollars a month. That's a lot of money. Now,

00:31:20.220 keeping somebody in a hospital costs a heck of a lot more per month than that even. But if it's

00:31:25.020 broader home care, just maintaining somebody visiting a couple of times a week or once a day

00:31:29.420 or something like that, much better than a hospital. Unfortunately, our system is just so bloated,

00:31:34.540 so bureaucratic. And I tell you what, the hangup, the problem most often is the bloody unions. You got to 0.52

00:31:41.820 remember if we start doing home care, you know, you don't need an expensive overtime gouging union

00:31:49.580 labor force to do that. You can have individuals. I mean, you know, these aren't full out nurses and

00:31:56.220 health care for people that people just to help with pills, help with bathing, help with some

00:31:59.740 shopping, little things to help people and keep them out of the hospital. But it doesn't lead to that

00:32:04.540 nice, big, sweet union jobs. So that could be problematic. It's just a big, ugly battle. Common

00:32:13.980 sense solutions, ones like Emmanuel was pointing out are there, but it's just so hard to get them

00:32:18.940 done. And then unfortunately, like I said, sometimes the corruption gets in and everybody loses.

00:32:23.660 So I saw Wildrose, a commenter earlier asking about the US 51 concept, my thoughts on it. You know,

00:32:31.820 so that's something that, uh, this president, Trump's really been rattling the Canadian chain

00:32:36.700 a lot over the, of course this for months now, uh, calling Trudeau, Governor Trudeau and so on.

00:32:43.100 I, it stopped being funny a long time ago. You know, people say, Oh, it's just trolling. It's just

00:32:47.820 trolling. Look, this is the leader of the most powerful nation on the planet. Who's talking about

00:32:55.660 expansionism. And even if you're a supporter of the concept of Alberta or Canada becoming the 51st state,

00:33:07.100 this isn't the way it's going to happen.

00:33:08.220 It's going to happen. In fact, I think we've seen more binding and bonding among Canadians.

00:33:16.780 When you've got what you see as an external threat, economically at the least with these tariffs and

00:33:21.660 such, you're seeing more Canadian flags being waived than we've seen since the convoy. And not

00:33:27.340 because they're upset with that. They're saying, I am Canadian and I'm proud of it. So if you're

00:33:30.780 independence minded, if you're us 51 minded, it's not moving you closer to that goal at this point.

00:33:38.780 I, a lot of people are thinking, I'm very much of that. I put it on X. Look, um, we, we've got the,

00:33:47.180 Mr. Rath, he's going down to Washington to pitch the Alberta 51 idea and things like that. Okay, go for it.

00:33:53.740 But, um, but it should be pitched to Albertans first. I, I, I traveled a lot. I did a lot of

00:34:00.700 speaking events and, and, uh, at a very independence, um, friendly venues. And then one of the things that

00:34:07.740 was, it was with Dr. Modry a lot. He was, he would, we were speaking together and he would always pull

00:34:12.380 the room with a straw pole and, uh, ask what, what people's visions were for things. So, I mean,

00:34:17.900 again, it's a stacked room. So he'd say, you know, what would you like to see? Would you like to see

00:34:21.180 Alberta stronger within an, you know, a stronger province, but still within Canada? A good handful

00:34:27.660 of hands would go up. Would you like to see Alberta completely independent on its own? And

00:34:31.420 most of the room's hands would go up. And then they'd say, you know, if you like Alberta, BC,

00:34:35.100 Saskatchewan, you get a whole bunch. And he'd ask about the US 51. And usually that's only a couple,

00:34:40.140 only a handful of people. They're there, they're vocal, they want it. But even among the independent

00:34:45.500 set, it's a smaller number. Now the only way I think in a principled way, I know, I know people

00:34:52.940 will send me links. Oh, Canada is actually a corporation or Alberta was never officially part

00:34:57.740 of Confederation. All those weird shortcuts, whatever. I don't even discuss it. I'm talking

00:35:01.660 about the here and now. And if you're going to be principled about it, if you really thought a

00:35:05.980 province or a region is going to step out, the only way it should happen acceptably is with a majority vote

00:35:14.060 in a referendum and a clear majority, not 50% plus one, because that's just a recipe for a nightmare.

00:35:19.020 I mean, we're talking 60% of people got to get together, vote on it and say, let's do it.

00:35:24.620 And if anybody thinks we're even vaguely close to that tipping point of support to go US 51 at this

00:35:31.740 point, it's not there. It's not the, you know, you're going to be a long ways from that right now.

00:35:39.420 And the worst thing you could do if you are an independent supporter,

00:35:41.980 if you're looking for that sort of thing is to have a referendum and lose that will set it back

00:35:49.580 by a decade. That's one of the things Quebec figured out, you know, that that's why even

00:35:53.740 though they were only 1% away from a referendum win in the nineties, why they haven't held another

00:35:59.420 one since they're finally actually just starting to rumble about it again is because they said

00:36:03.100 they're not going to do it again until they get the winning conditions. And they've been working

00:36:06.220 hard for years to try and get those winning conditions. And the conditions haven't been

00:36:14.220 there. So they haven't pulled the trigger. A commenter saying, you know, Lonnie,

00:36:17.980 so delusional Albertans want to join the USA. Okay. I'm not sure if you're saying it's delusional to

00:36:23.260 think that Albertans want to join or that I'm being delusional and you're saying Albertans want to join.

00:36:27.580 If you really think that more than 50% of Albertans want to go at this point, I think you need to get

00:36:33.740 out more. A number of people want to go, but not nearly a majority, not even close. And I'm not

00:36:41.500 saying it'll never happen, but it's certainly not going to happen right now. And I I've used the

00:36:47.580 analogy before too. I mean, if you're being courted, if you, if somebody is coming in and trying to woo you,

00:36:52.540 you know, and flirt with you and say, you know, join me, partner with me, you play a little coy,

00:36:57.980 you want some courtship and things like that. But when president Trump comes on, like he has been,

00:37:04.780 whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're coming on a little hot there, buddy. Cool your jets. Let's talk.

00:37:10.140 Let's negotiate. Maybe. He's putting people off. I don't think he cares. I mean,

00:37:16.700 that's what it thinks is in general. He's just stirring that pot. I mean, realistically,

00:37:21.340 again, with the amount of, uh, legislation, I mean, nobody's asked the majority of Americans

00:37:25.900 if they want another state either. And, uh, you know, I think it's pretty important on their part.

00:37:30.140 People are making a lot of presumptions. It's an interesting discussion. It absolutely is.

00:37:34.140 And I mean, then people start talking along the lines of, of, uh, uh, you know, the, the,

00:37:40.220 the better elected senators and, and other things that are available with the United States.

00:37:44.220 Absolutely. But to the point of realistically looking at getting into that, we're just not

00:37:52.220 there quite yet, but the discussion's on more than ever. I just don't think it's moving us closer

00:37:56.380 at this point. It's moving us farther. And I mean, you know, president Trump, how, how do you deal with

00:38:03.660 him right now? He's taking people off. I mean, people say it's strategic, but strategic to what?

00:38:10.300 Give us a demand. Then people say it's about the fentanyl. No, it's not. That's enough of that.

00:38:15.660 Come on. Let's get real. That's a problem. Sure. I'm not saying there's no problem with

00:38:19.820 the fentanyl and in, in, in Canada and things like that. There certainly is, but there's nothing. And

00:38:25.980 he's kind of said, there's nothing we could have done to stop that. You know, the next day he said,

00:38:29.660 he's talking about a trade deficit of, he's saying that he's subsidizing Canada by 200 billion a year,

00:38:34.220 which is completely untrue, but that's his selling point. He says, we're going to end that.

00:38:38.460 And then he says, we're going to take all the auto manufacturing back down into the United States.

00:38:43.660 His terms keep changing with whatever he's talking about day by day. How do you negotiate with that?

00:38:50.860 Premier Smith tried. She took the, the approach of going down to talk directly. I applauded it. I

00:38:57.820 thought it was a good tactic. Head down to Mar-a-Lago, head down to the inauguration,

00:39:03.740 make your case. But what happened pretty much didn't make a difference. Whatever Trump has in mind,

00:39:10.940 there's not much we can do. It seems that's going to impact that. As Kenzie saying, you know,

00:39:17.580 not being weenies to hang on to America's coattails. I mean, that's some of the things that we've got to

00:39:24.460 at least, I mean, as I said in my opening monologue, strengthen ourselves. We've got to make sure

00:39:32.060 that we can sell to other customers because he's just shaking us around because he can.

00:39:37.340 And, and, and, and it doesn't mean we have to be fighting with them, but you've got to be on

00:39:41.420 stronger footing. So if we're going to have a president, even if it's a future president starting

00:39:46.220 to be a pain with us saying, well, you know what we can sell the, the biggest, uh, heavy

00:39:51.420 oil refinery on the planet is in India. I'm sure they would be happy to get a few more tankers of

00:39:57.100 Albertan heavy crude getting out there. People also, we were talking about light crude. Cause

00:40:00.700 they keep saying all the Americans, the only ones that can process. That's not true. Uh, plus Alberta

00:40:06.220 produces, uh, what, 370 people forget, you know, we talk about oil sands all the time, but

00:40:11.020 over 370,000 barrels a day of light crude oil conventionally. And, uh, and I think just about

00:40:18.620 as much of that conventionally in heavy crude, like we've got to look at things. Uh, you know,

00:40:24.940 Wilder's saying this isn't about border security or drugs. I think it's a mire about resources he

00:40:28.300 needs. Yeah. I don't know. It makes more sense. Right. Uh, there's an interesting with Tristan

00:40:32.380 Hopper. He was putting on the national post because president Trump, again, he took, and there's some

00:40:38.220 of the things that frustrate me with him because he's such a BS or an ES guys. He is. I mean,

00:40:45.420 if you look back only five years ago, cause he ripped up NAFTA or North American free trade agreement.

00:40:52.060 And he, and he said, we got to make a new one. And he made the new trade agreement and he trumpeted it.

00:40:57.580 He said, this is the best trade agreement ever. He said that he signed that. And now he's gotten in

00:41:05.180 five years later, ripped it up and said, it's crap. How do you negotiate with somebody who tears 0.99

00:41:10.700 up your contract? How do you negotiate with somebody who basically campaign against himself?

00:41:18.060 How, where are we going with this? What does he want? I want to get closer to the United States.

00:41:24.220 I love the United States, but that means we should be integrating our markets for integrating,

00:41:30.540 getting closer, having more business, going back and forth, both ways, having people going back and

00:41:35.580 forth, both ways. And right now they're getting pushed apart. It's easy. We're polarizing ourselves.

00:41:43.660 And, and I just, I mean, I'm a guy who likes stirring the pot. I like shaking up the establishment.

00:41:51.100 I believe in that. Absolutely. But I mean, at some point you get to the point of not just

00:41:56.780 shaking things up to make positive change. You're just shaking it up for the sake of shaking it up.

00:42:01.180 When Trump spoke to Congress last night, he was talking about taking Greenland.

00:42:07.100 Why are you going there? The Americans already have a base on Greenland. They don't need more

00:42:13.180 access to that area. There's a military base there. They have an agreement with Denmark as a contract.

00:42:17.980 What are you after? Because the people of Greenland have been pretty clear. We don't want to be American. 0.65

00:42:23.260 Why are you shaking that tree? Why are you doing that? And, uh, I, I just don't see the end.

00:42:30.300 I mean, people keep saying, Oh, he's got a plan. He's, he's got, well, it's time to start showing

00:42:35.580 it pretty soon. Make demands that stick. Then we, we want to work to accommodate, but you've got to

00:42:42.860 say something and stick to it. And it's bouncing around. I saw a good analogy or listened to one

00:42:48.140 from somebody on a radio interview the other day. It's saying, it's like trying to nail a piece of

00:42:51.820 jello to a wall. Like you just can't make a case. You can't dance fast enough to that guy's tune.

00:42:57.180 And, uh, yeah, part of our problem too, is having an absolutely weak, lame duck, incompetent prime 0.99

00:43:04.220 minister. Trudeau, I mean, look at how complicated this problem is for any leader and having him in 0.97

00:43:11.660 the front of the line. Oh my Lord, are we ever in trouble, but I don't, and I still want Trudeau out

00:43:17.340 and I want to see a better leader in. And I think it's probably going to be Paliyev and I think he will

00:43:21.500 be better than Trudeau, but I don't know how much, because you're still trying to negotiate with a

00:43:25.820 man who is as volatile as Trump. So we're in for some crazy, crazy times. Uh, the language out of

00:43:35.820 Premier Smith yesterday was very much, uh, she was standing apart from the team Canada thing.

00:43:41.980 She was standing apart from the, the, the, the Trudeau gathering of people kind of, and it failed.

00:43:49.100 And now she has jumped on board. So guess what? Trump is actually unifying Canada. So for people

00:43:55.900 who want to, a unified Canada, who, who, you know, don't want to see independence, but responding,

00:44:00.780 Trump has actually been kind of their best friend in a lot of ways. Um, because I don't think it's

00:44:06.220 making the independence sentiment grow. Uh, I used an analogy before too. I mean, if we look at it,

00:44:11.340 you know, people talk about Canada as like a big family, a dysfunctional family, and we're fighting,

00:44:14.700 you know, if you get two brothers, my brother and I used to pound the hell out of each other all the

00:44:19.020 time and they're beating on each other. They've had a few beers and they're going at it. That's fine.

00:44:24.140 But if somebody steps in between those two brothers, there's a really good chance. They're

00:44:27.180 both just going to turn and start pounding on the third force. We, we didn't need Trump coming in,

00:44:32.460 in the middle of our issue with the Ottawa. That's that, that doesn't endear us to him.

00:44:37.180 We'll take care of that here. We should take care of that here, but that's not because other people

00:44:40.780 saying, Oh, he's fixing things in Canada. No, he's not. He hasn't fixed a bloody thing yet.

00:44:44.860 In fact, it's actually led to a bit of an increase of support for the liberals. Because

00:44:48.940 as I said, when you get an outside external force, an external threat, people tend to rally together

00:44:56.220 then, even if they don't like each other, because I don't like you, but it's not his business to get

00:45:00.940 in the way and start stirring things up with me and you. So Canadians are bonding and I'm seeing bad 1.00

00:45:08.700 attitudes. I don't like seeing that. I don't like seeing the vitriol thrown out on X. I don't like

00:45:13.500 seeing people booing each other's national anthems. It's tasteless. It's pointless. It's divisive.

00:45:19.020 The Americans are our closest friends. They are our allies. They are culturally the closest people to

00:45:24.780 Canada by far on the planet. And for us to be pulling apart from each other is tragic and annoying

00:45:31.740 and frustrating. And it didn't need to happen. And I don't know when it's going to change because we

00:45:36.300 just don't know where the hell Trump is minute by minute, much less day by day. All right.

00:45:41.820 That's all I've got today, guys. By the way, my show is going to be expanding. There's going to be

00:45:44.780 another one dropping on Friday and it's going to be longer and covering a lot more on national and

00:45:50.380 federal issues. And of course, the pipeline is going to be on a little later too with our panel

00:45:53.740 breaking things down because yeah, there's just so much to cover. I'm going to have to take on another

00:45:58.940 hour and a half to two hours a week to blather it on at you. So be sure to tune in and watch for

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Western Standard - March 06, 2025

CORY MORGAN SHOW： Pipelines must be an election plank

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