In this episode of the Corey Morgan Show, Corey talks about the growing problem of anti-Islamic hate and violence around the world, and how we need to do more to stop it. He also talks about what we can do about it.
00:00:00.000Good day and welcome to the Corey Morgan Show.
00:00:29.560if you're in alberta spring has really sprung now we're well into the double digits the
00:00:34.300roads are flowing and i know from looking out my back window and the snow goes down and i get to
00:00:40.000realize just how much i missed from those bloody three dogs i have in the backyard so i got a
00:00:45.380really fun weekend ahead of me in the yard cleanup still i'll take that i can't stand winter i got no
00:00:50.720use for it i'm looking forward to seeing the leaves turn green and uh and my bees flying
00:00:56.320around getting stuff done i might be seeming a little crabbier and groggier than usual i just
00:01:00.480got in from consort last night i was at another one of those independence meetings speaking up in
00:01:04.720there another great large crowd and uh running across people set up at those signing stations
00:01:10.000all over the place there's really something crazy going on in alberta with that it's going to be one
00:01:14.480heck of a year uh let's see a little while i'm going to have matthew tobon he's from unapologetically
00:01:20.000jewish name kind of says it all he's in canada and pushes back against anti-semitism and things
00:01:26.240such as that. There's just been so much going on with that. I just wanted to speak to somebody and
00:01:31.460say, well, what the heck can we do about it? You know, this is becoming a problem, but it's easier
00:01:36.000to say that we just want it to stop. Well, how do you get this sort of thing to stop? So we'll have
00:01:40.020a good discussion in a little while about that. But for starters, I'm going to provoke a religion
00:01:44.160that's usually tolerant and not prone to provocation or getting worked up, and that's
00:01:49.460Islam. So let's talk about them. And I'm going to begin by quoting the wisdom of Mr. Bean,0.97
00:01:54.460also known as Rowan Atkinson this is from him he said something online just to criticize a person0.87
00:01:59.860for their race is manifestly irrational and ridiculous but to criticize their religion0.96
00:02:05.920that is a right and that is freedom and that's where I just want to start that because we know0.97
00:02:10.400as soon as you start talking about Islam somebody's gonna call you a racist I'm not talking about any
00:02:15.440race I'm talking about a religion and it is my right and obligation to criticize religion when0.99
00:02:22.140needs it so let's get on with critics critiquing the world's most troublesome religion and that
00:02:26.940is islam i mean we've got synagogues and jewish schools they're being targeted by violent attacks
00:02:31.420around the world as the bullets are flying and the bombs are detonating media and government
00:02:35.340agencies are tying themselves in knots to avoid speaking about the root of the problem and that
00:02:39.980root is islam islamic terrorists have tossed bombs at police and demonstrators in new york cnn
00:02:45.020responded with a headline saying two pennsylvania teenagers crossed into new york on a saturday
00:02:49.820morning for what could have been a normal day in joining the city during abnormally warm weather.
00:02:54.140But in less than an hour, their lives would drastically change as the pair would be arrested
00:02:58.000for throwing homemade bombs during an anti-Muslim protest outside of Mayor Zoram Mamdami's house.
00:03:04.000They made it sound like the terrorists were part of the anti-Islamic protesters. They neglected to
00:03:08.140mention that the terrorists yelled Allahu Akbar before attacking, as most terrorists tend to do.
00:03:13.280A man named I.M. Mohamed Ghazali, who had ties to Hezbollah, drove a car into a Michigan synagogue with a truck packed with fireworks and gasoline.
00:03:23.220He was thankfully killed before he could detonate things.
00:03:25.800CTV dutifully reported on the incident with the headline,
00:03:28.980Investigators work to determine the exact reason for the attack at a Michigan synagogue.
00:03:35.880As if there was any question about the motivation.
00:03:37.960Or in Amsterdam, there's another beauty.
00:03:39.460A bomb was set off at a Jewish school.
00:03:41.040writers post a headline saying explosion lightly damages jewish school in amsterdam
00:03:46.480lightly damages that's right up there with mostly peaceful we saw when race riots were burning
00:03:50.960american cities a few years ago they made it sound like the attack on the school is more like
00:03:54.640a backed up toilet or something you know minor damages i mean what was it if a few fingers or
00:04:00.240legs were blown off we'd call it moderate damages these attacks have to be taken seriously meanwhile
00:04:05.280thousands gathered in toronto for the annual islamist hate fest called al-quds day where they
00:04:09.840call for the death to jews and usual stuff block streets and entrances0.98
00:04:13.680entrances to buildings with islamic prayers the toronto star called it a pro-palestine rally0.96
00:04:18.880but it was anything but in response to all of these incidents around the world though this was
00:04:22.720the cherry on top the canadian security and intelligence service issues a post saying today
00:04:28.000we stand against islamophobia and all forms of hatred as canada's security and intelligence agency
00:04:34.640See, if CSIS really believes Islamophobia is a threat to Canadians, we truly aren't being protected by them.
00:04:41.420No mosques have been attacked. There's no anti-Islamic stuff going on, guys.
00:04:46.320By definition, a phobia is an irrational fear of something.0.95
00:04:49.460Islam is responsible for the vast majority of terrorist acts around the world.1.00
00:04:52.820Every Islamic-dominated country on Earth commits human rights violations the Western world would never consider tolerating in its borders.1.00
00:04:59.480Islam's use is a justification for subjugation of women in the murder of LGBTQ people throughout the Middle East,0.98
00:05:05.340and no Islamic nation tends to live in peace with any non-Islamic neighbours.
00:13:41.580Yeah, and this work is difficult, right?
00:13:45.040The problem is volume. The problem is adaptation. It is a culture that comes with Islam that's incompatible with the modern world. It really is. It doesn't mean a person can't get over that, that they can't adjust from that and adapt from that.1.00
00:13:59.040But that takes coming into a newer environment, a newer society where you can work free of those things.
00:14:06.560When you flood it in, in a massive uncontrolled flow, and that is what happened with Europe,
00:14:11.620and that's what's happened with Michigan and some other areas where you take a bunch from North Africa
00:14:17.020and others and dump them into an area without time to integrate,
00:14:20.740is you get insular populations and you get social clashes and things only become worse.
00:14:28.540we can look to Europe to see how bad it can get. Maybe we can get that fixed before it gets to
00:14:34.440that point. Also, Care Bear saying Islam is a political ideology. It's true. That's a little1.00
00:14:39.500bit of, you know, I mean, I believe religion is fair game for critique as well. But Islam is more1.00
00:14:45.020of the interpretation and building the ideology around the religion. And that's why I use that
00:14:50.320term predominantly throughout, rather than talking about necessarily, say, Muslims and so on. I'm
00:14:54.580more often to speak of Islamists and so such. And of course, like everything, there's different
00:14:59.400sects. I mean, there are, you know, fundamentalists and crazy people of every faith. I mean, I don't0.84
00:15:06.280know, there's some crazy Christians who like playing with rattlesnakes and stuff like that1.00
00:15:10.080and everything out there. But the main thing is when we're looking at the volume of difficulties0.97
00:15:17.340we're having, there is one that's kind of standing above the rest. And we're so scared to call it
00:15:22.520out. We're so scared to discuss it. We're so terrified of critiquing it. And that's why I
00:15:29.180just wanted to get right out and poke that bear off the start, because we do have to talk about
00:15:33.140it. I'm tired of pussyfooting around. We aren't seeing a bunch of Hindu protesters riding in the1.00
00:15:39.900streets weekend after weekend after weekend, targeting other particular faiths and groups
00:15:46.440and things such as that. We don't have, you know, Buddhists causing these difficulties1.00
00:15:52.400out on the streets. No, it tends to be Islam. Ah, here's one. Terry Davis saying Zionist0.96
00:15:59.580Christians. Yikes. Yes, yes, indeed. Let's talk about Zionism for a second, you know,1.00
00:16:04.460because people like using that as a substitute word for Jews. It really is. Looking at the base0.96
00:16:11.460of what Zionism is. It is the belief that Jews have the right to a homeland in Israel. That's
00:16:18.040what it is. Does Israel have the right to exist? If your answer is yes, then you're a Zionist.0.85
00:16:26.160That's really the bottom line of what that whole thing is. I mean, that doesn't mean you can't or
00:16:31.540shouldn't critique the government of Israel and some of the actions it's done or things like that.
00:16:36.680No, absolutely, you can still critique those things, of course.
00:16:40.780But does Israel have the right to be there?1.00
00:16:43.340Because if you oppose Zionism, then you mean it should be gone.0.94
00:16:46.800And, you know, that discussion's been on for a long time.
00:16:54.140You know, somebody who can expand more on that will be my guest.
00:16:56.820He's going to be here in a moment, actually, and things such as that.
00:17:00.120But I tire of people using the word Zionist just as a shield to cloak the word Jew.
00:17:06.680Geez, at least just being honest, Andy, Sam, I can use the word. I mean, don't beat around that
00:17:11.340bush. Sadly, a lot of people actually have stopped beating around that bush. So let's bring in my
00:17:16.100guest, Matthew Tobe. I've been looking forward to this. He's from Unapologetically Jewish,1.00
00:17:21.400and we'll discuss some of these issues going on, particularly in Canada. With that, he should be
00:17:27.000in in a moment. There he is. Hey, how's it going, Matthew? Not bad. Great. How you doing?
00:17:31.580Good, good. I appreciate you taking some time to talk to us today. I imagine you've got
00:17:35.900a lot to cover uh these days there's always been but this last uh few months well even a few weeks
00:17:41.460in particular it's just been horrific so i mean maybe just to begin with though if you kind of
00:17:47.520explain yourself and your organization you know what you what your mandate is and what you're
00:17:51.400looking to do yeah so unapologetically jewish started off uh back essentially internally
00:17:57.880through october 7th uh as you know protests started happening and i got more involved in
00:18:03.900community advocacy and then solely working with the police on issues and then back in uh august
00:18:09.980of 2025 i decided there's only so much one person can do on their own and started taking the steps to
00:18:17.260start an organization called uh unapologetically jewish and the mandate we put behind it because
00:18:22.460i'd already been doing police board deputations i'd already been speaking to mps and mpps
00:18:27.500you know just in passing and to get more things happening we registered the organization
00:18:33.580and decided to take it one step further so the first thing we did was uh look at who wasn't
00:18:38.780doing certain things and the toronto police really worked acting a lot uh to stop you know the weekly
00:18:44.300protests that were happening and we launched a club tribunal a human rights tribunal against
00:18:51.580the city of toronto the toronto police board and the toronto police you know that was our first
00:18:57.660mandate to work to ensure that law enforcement was doing their job and the second mandate was
00:19:03.900to work with legislators not to change policy or make laws but really to just educate them
00:19:10.540but what we're actually seeing because what you see on the news what you see on tv what you see
00:19:15.660even on social media is not always what's actually happening so that was the other mandate and the
00:19:19.820last mandate was to work with community to build more leaders and build more advocates and build
00:19:24.540more strength amongst the community. And things, you know, I guess it's just been a shock since
00:19:31.420October 7th, or maybe not so much a shock for some people, but it really stripped the veil off
00:19:35.080of a lot of people. And it's unfortunate. I think a lot of initial protesters perhaps were upset over
00:19:40.820the actions of Israel and the war and items such as that. But when we start seeing cafes targeted
00:19:46.860or particular communities targeted where people live, you don't know if the person behind that
00:19:51.820door supports Israel's actions or doesn't. The problem they had was that the person behind that
00:19:55.960door was Jewish. And this had gone on in Toronto for so long. You know, if we'd have had any other0.82
00:20:02.680group, it seems where we're targeted a community based on their ethnicity, the police would
00:20:07.180intervene and say, this is inappropriate. This is intimidation. This is a problem. But they just
00:20:11.640took a hands-off approach with this. How do you respond to that? Well, they really did. And they,
00:20:16.400The challenge that everybody's running into is, you know, showing up in communities that have a high-dense, you know, Jewish population.1.00
00:20:28.900And the police have taken this, let's just de-escalate situation using the Charter of Rights and Freedoms to stand behind.
00:20:36.920And, you know, what we're learning, and let's be honest, nobody ever really mentioned the Charter of Rights for a long time.
00:20:43.300You know, from when we first got it up until probably 2023, it wasn't really, you know, talked about as often as it is now.
00:20:51.640And we're not as educated as we should be behind the charter.
00:20:55.680So they're allowing these things to happen, the intimidation to happen, the harassment to happen, without actually truly understanding what's behind the charter and what it's meant to do.
00:21:04.440So getting a little deeper in, I mean, we've been hearing about kids having problems in schools or post-secondary educations.
00:21:11.100It's been awful seeing some of the treatment of, again, you know, just Jewish kids and students that they just want to move through.0.99
00:21:16.180They aren't taking part in the conflict.
00:32:16.260So we need to make sure that if they had started at the beginning and held people accountable for breaking laws at the time, whether that was graffiti in a wall or lighting smoke bombs on the street.
00:32:27.460If we stop that simple action, which is a law being broken, then it wouldn't escalate.
00:32:33.020So now you have, you know, synagogues being shot at, schools being shot at.
00:37:11.160You know, there's no electricity for a week and we've got riots and things are going nuts and people are, you know, consuming each other in the streets.
00:37:17.940Might have to suspend things until you can get that under control or flooding or a natural disaster or a zombie apocalypse.
00:37:25.700But a bunch of people protesting in Ottawa with bouncy castles didn't reach that bar.
00:37:31.260It was an annoyance, but it didn't reach nearly enough, highly enough to justify invoking the Emergencies Act.
00:37:51.380I mean, you know, it's a longer discussion as to how much longer they should stay there.
00:37:55.240I think it was at a point where it was time for that protest to move on.
00:37:58.920Every protest, part of the problems they have, whether it was Occupy of the Past or some of the other things,
00:38:03.820they get in, they make their point, and then they don't have an exit strategy.
00:38:07.260They don't know when it's time to kind of head for the door.
00:38:09.580And that was part of the problem with the Ottawa, the convoy, was there was a lot of them starting to entrench and there was kind of no end game that we're going to see.
00:38:16.440So, you know, eventually there was going to be a move to remove the protest.
00:38:20.500But there were laws on the books for blocking streets or, you know, for parking too long or things like that, that gave police authorities the ability to get in and deal with that.