Western Standard - CORY MORGAN SHOW： Supply management continues to screw Canada

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Cory

00:00:28.560 morgan show i see the third false spring of the season has passed we're back into winter again

00:00:34.560 it'll warm up eventually i hope i'm sick to death of this but again i like this in a moment about

00:00:39.120 winter i've just got no use for it never will coming near the tail end of it by the way the

00:00:43.600 political season is going full bore lots going on gonna be a packed show today in a little while

00:00:48.880 i'll talk to andrew lamb from uh gowling wlg it's a large massive law firm but talking on the energy

00:00:54.880 issue and uh well the way the government talks about and as he put out in his press release fast

00:01:00.880 track in quotes on major projects but nothing really seems to be getting done fast and of course

00:01:06.880 lots of news and other things there i see a couple folks on the uh comments there is yes this is live

00:01:12.160 send those in there from north run talking about kuzma being impacted by supply management and i'll

00:01:16.640 talk about supply management in a moment i don't even talk about the trade aspects of this particular

00:01:20.560 rant about it but that's another one of them and uh cb fixes all talking about in a free alberta

00:01:25.840 there wouldn't be any supply management i do want to start though by giving a shout out to calgary's

00:01:30.240 councillors and staff at city hall and for those who aren't in calgary there's been a blanket

00:01:36.000 rezoning thing that's now in the process of being repealed which means hearings going on for days

00:01:41.040 where hundreds of calgarians are allowed to come in and actually speak their mind to the councillors

00:01:44.880 and staff and they have set up for the counselors and staff and i wish this was a joke a room full

00:01:50.720 of toys little squeezy things and they have a therapist and there's therapy dogs coming in

00:01:55.840 in case it all becomes too much for these counselors and staffers to actually have to

00:01:59.840 listen to constituents for a few days this is the snowflake generation this is what happened 1.00

00:02:04.960 we started hiring them i got a message you're a bunch of pussies i'm getting sick of it you make 1.00

00:02:10.480 six figures take it deal with it or find a job at a 7-eleven where you don't have to think so hard 1.00

00:02:16.800 this is getting absurd it's embarrassing to live in a country where this is where our tax dollars 0.91

00:02:22.240 go this is why you struggle to make the bills to pay clowns like this to have a little safe space 0.77

00:02:27.360 and a cry because they had to listen to you on policy issues all right now i'm in the right 0.72

00:02:33.040 mood i'll talk about supply management so imagine living in a system of market control so stringent

00:02:38.960 federal police will swarm your home and arrest you if you tried to sell eggs from your own farm

00:02:44.480 well you don't have to imagine in canada southern alberta chicken farmer hank vaness and had

00:02:48.880 multiple rcmp cruisers descend upon his property last year and he was jailed for the crime of

00:02:53.360 selling eggs without a government-issued quota or imagine a cartel that controlled the prices

00:02:57.840 of a commodity so strictly that producers would be forced to destroy any product that they produced

00:03:02.640 above and beyond the limits that the cartel set well that's exactly what canada's dairy industry

00:03:07.280 does when up to a billion gallons of milk are dumped by farmers every year because they'd be

00:03:13.020 jailed if they tried to sell it. And any other industry such as cartels would be illegal and

00:03:18.060 charged with price fixing. In Canada, we call it supply management. The supply management system

00:03:22.660 works well too. The industrial milk prices are 30 to 50% higher in Canada than other Western

00:03:28.040 countries. Families in Canada are being forced to pay inflated food prices to shore up a shrinking

00:03:32.880 number of increasingly rich dairy farmers and it's illegal to compete with them. Supply management

00:03:38.360 was ostensibly created to protect the family farm. It's done the opposite. Since supply management

00:03:43.380 was created in 72, Canada went from having 45,000 dairy farms to less than 9,000 today.

00:03:49.880 Starting a small operation is impossible because the large farms own all the quotas and even if

00:03:54.000 they're willing to sell their precious permission slips to produce dairy products, the costs are out

00:03:58.200 of reach for any reasonable operation. Profit margins are generous for those dairy farmers

00:04:02.500 who have quotas though, they average around 20% compared to the 4% that grocers operate under or

00:04:08.200 the 5% that restaurateurs earn for an idea who's really actually gouging you on food prices. It's

00:04:14.100 not hard to maintain high profit margins of course when the government will illegalize competition on

00:04:19.080 your behalf. If one really wants to examine an oligopoly that robs consumers though, they should

00:04:24.160 check out the profit margins that banks enjoy. Citizens remain distracted from how dairy, egg,

00:04:28.940 and poultry producers are robbing them, though, because those supply-managed industries are

00:04:32.740 incredibly effective lobbyists. They spend tens of millions of dollars on misleading

00:04:37.720 information campaigns about their industries and their competitors. They also funnel countless

00:04:42.200 millions into every political party and have paid lobbyists knocking on every elected official's

00:04:47.220 door regularly. It's no secret that Maxime Bernier lost his bid for the CPC leadership

00:04:52.380 because he dared to openly oppose supply management. The cartels quickly shoveled

00:04:56.840 mass support towards the leadership campaign of Andrew Scheer, and it gave him a narrow win.

00:05:02.200 And that ended rather poorly for the Conservative Party, wasn't it? But it was a fantastic

00:05:05.420 outcome for the dairy cartels, as it reminded politicians of the consequences that face public

00:05:10.940 figures who oppose them. The regional factor comes into play as well. Quebec has acquired a

00:05:15.080 disproportionately large amount of Canada's dairy quotas. That's why the Bloc Québécois

00:05:18.580 pushed legislation to try and make it impossible to tear down the price-fixing system, and the

00:05:23.500 Cowardly Conservatives were too terrified to oppose it.

00:05:26.380 Conservative supporters should call out their MPs and party representatives on supply management regularly.

00:05:31.220 It's a Soviet-style system. It goes against every fiscal principle allegedly held by Conservatives.

00:05:36.580 The party should be ashamed of itself for supporting such a system that robs Canadians so boldly.

00:05:41.700 But they're only going to feel that shame if the members stand up and push those members.

00:05:45.900 Inflation is pressuring Canadians and it's only going to get worse as the energy prices climb due to the war in Iran.

00:05:51.140 Meanwhile, job losses are mounting across the country and the GDP per capita continues to decline when compared to other Western countries.

00:05:58.560 Countries in for some hard times.

00:06:00.420 And to add insult to injury, Canadian families are being ripped off on essential food purchases to protect a small number of corporate dairy farms raking in huge profits.

00:06:08.280 There are many things that must be done to fix Canada's ailing economy and give consumers a break.

00:06:12.300 But here's an easy one.

00:06:13.660 Get rid of the rotten supply management system once and for all.

00:06:16.680 Other countries had such systems and they dumped them decades ago.

00:06:20.020 In getting rid of supply management, the dairy, poultry, and egg industries actually got better in those countries

00:06:23.940 thanks to competition, and consumers got fair prices and good products.

00:06:27.700 So it's time to end supply management now, guys.

00:06:30.200 Don't let the politicians keep hiding from you on this issue.

00:06:32.440 When you're looking at your grocery basket, there's one of the reasons it's so high.

00:06:36.520 All right, well, it's a crazy busy day.

00:06:38.160 I better turn to our news editor, Dave Naylor, and see what else is going on.

00:06:40.900 Hey, Dave.

00:06:41.240 You know, if the CRTC would let us swear on the air, I would give it to you with both barrels today.

00:06:47.600 Oh.

00:06:48.880 Right?

00:06:49.280 Last week you said spring has arrived and I said don't jinx us and it's absolutely atrocious out

00:06:55.720 there now. Blizzard conditions, icy roads. My apologies in advance. I didn't even take my

00:06:59.940 winter tires off though. That's usually the trigger for another snowstorm. They're on.

00:07:03.940 All right. Can you leave them on until like summertime? Probably. I'm too lazy and cheap

00:07:07.680 to swatch them around anymore. I'm sick of that too. So one of the stories we've got up this

00:07:11.480 morning is it's six days to go before the firearms registry ends and only uh uh one-third of

00:07:19.420 Canadians have apparently registered the guns two-thirds haven't well have you registered your

00:07:23.740 arsenal yet uh no no no I don't have any firearms oh sorry I thought that day we were shooting out

00:07:32.520 there on your place was oh those well yeah those they fell lost in a boating accident or something

00:07:37.580 like that i bet you're not alone in saying that uh yeah this is like the registry from before

00:07:43.960 though non-compliance will kill it the government is parking up the wrong tree but or they're going

00:07:48.540 to spend a lot of millions of dollars trying yeah well they got to make a an example of somebody

00:07:52.600 so i think it's either going to be you or derek well the government typically likes us i don't

00:07:58.060 know why they would want to come after us for anything no i know we always write good things

00:08:01.640 about them don't we anyways yeah as you said lots of news we got breaking news uh uh u.s jury has

00:08:09.480 has come on side with a woman who sued uh facebook and meta uh because she they she claims uh their

00:08:17.580 algorithms addicted her as a 16 year old she was addicted to facebook and all that sort of good

00:08:24.340 stuff and uh see the class actions coming out oh can you imagine the lineup now for people

00:08:29.540 The ambulance chasers are smelling a new stream of money.

00:08:31.920 Especially in the States where everybody's batitious. 1.00

00:08:36.920 Other breaking news this morning.

00:08:39.040 There's been a deal between Alberta and Ottawa, believe it or not, on methane reduction.

00:08:45.160 And Alberta has sort of set out what they're going to do and the feds have approved it.

00:08:50.680 So that was one of the key deals in the memorandum of understanding that Smith said yesterday was going to be delayed

00:08:57.800 and getting all the everything met but so this is one of those things that that has now been met

00:09:04.360 but you're not you're suspicious still aren't you yes this is one of the areas of alberta

00:09:10.680 capitulation this is one of the things we've done to please please please let us have another

00:09:14.620 pipeline here's all the other stuff we'll control and do in order to get it i haven't seen any of

00:09:20.060 those benchmarks being met by ottawa i just see alberta meeting them it just feels almost like

00:09:24.320 Somebody's being strung along.

00:09:25.600 You know what?

00:09:26.020 But Premier Smith seems still a happy camper.

00:09:29.000 She seems pretty confident.

00:09:30.900 I mean, it's her neck on the line, I guess, isn't it?

00:09:33.460 Well, I mean, she put out all the demands after the federal election

00:09:37.980 and then just let that deadline fly by with the Kearney laughing at her. 1.00

00:09:41.000 And then she's, you know, went to the MOU and set a bunch more deadlines

00:09:44.480 and the Kearney's ignored all those.

00:09:46.440 She's going to have to offer Albertans more than a smile 0.98

00:09:49.020 and show some dirt moving pretty soon.

00:09:51.880 There's going to be a problem for her politically. 1.00

00:09:53.820 i mean exactly show some teeth uh it looks like we just avoided another school shooting by a trans 1.00

00:10:00.700 kid uh trans female in uh uh down east in nova scotia i think um don't quote me on that though

00:10:10.380 was going to shoot up her school and they arrested her and slash him uh who was planning one online

00:10:18.140 with a kid in manitoba and they were going to do joint school shootings and uh you know this

00:10:23.340 was proving more and more that trans kids are well disturbed it's real yeah they're their kids 1.00

00:10:30.620 that are seeking uh reaching out for something and i guess the trans part fails them some of them

00:10:35.420 go most of them don't but i mean i at least for a change they caught it before exactly

00:10:41.180 speaking of things that are failing the um gay pride parades across canada have lost a ton of

00:10:47.100 sponsorship uh calgary gay pride uh confirmed to us that most of their sponsors have pulled out

00:10:54.220 because of dei backtracking and things like that so so they all went hand in cap to the liberals

00:10:59.820 yesterday and asked for nine million dollars to fund their parades too damn bad appeal to the

00:11:06.620 public guys there you go gals whatever whomever uh you do a lot of driving you will have noticed gas

00:11:12.060 went up again yesterday 25 cents yeah it's kind of hard about like a buck 76 in calgary now but it's

00:11:17.740 over two dollars in vancouver uh so the canadian tax uh pairs federation was calling on eb to

00:11:23.900 remove the uh the fuel tax save some people some money uh the same way they did with alberta

00:11:30.300 no government response uh yet and it's being revealed that the liberals spent billions and

00:11:36.380 billions of dollars on these electric buses that you've talked about before but they did

00:11:41.260 no research on how cold weather affects electric buses we'll find out soon enough oh we have been

00:11:46.220 finding out haven't we all that the edmonton failures yeah calgary still has to because

00:11:50.620 they've spent 150 million on some but they still haven't gotten yet they're gonna they're gonna

00:11:54.700 find out uh find out uh quick uh and we've got some interesting intrigue at calgary city hall

00:12:02.700 our cmp are rating people left right and center uh sean chu former old counselor andre chabot

00:12:09.740 former councillor and most interestingly jody kondek our former mayor of course the rcmp not

00:12:15.740 saying anything about it they're just sort of putting the cloud of suspicion over everybody

00:12:19.980 well that's the bar for the course out of the rcmp so just poke the ordinance and ask

00:12:24.300 make everybody speculate and then not let us know yep anything if i was ticked off if anybody be

00:12:29.420 most ticked off should be these councillors if indeed there's nothing going on i mean look at

00:12:32.540 the paul now yeah oh exactly everybody thinks andre chabot is corrupt yeah no it's it's it's

00:12:38.700 not good for those people and uh just happening as we speak right now daniel smith holding a press

00:12:44.380 conference on new initiatives to battle crime so i'll get that story up as soon as i'm done with

00:12:50.540 you all right well looking forward to that story and uh appreciate the update i guess we'll see you

00:12:55.420 later on the pipeline tonight on the pipeline yeah hey steve you bet that is our well some

00:13:02.620 of the news updates on stuff that's breaking and going crazy it's been busy busy around here with

00:13:07.260 news items and uh the reason uh we can continue like this the reason that newsroom is full of

00:13:13.500 reporters for dave to chase around and put on these things is because you guys have been

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00:13:32.780 thank you very much we really do appreciate it if you haven't yet come on guys get on there you

00:13:38.940 never thought twice about paying for a newspaper to come to your house this is pretty much the same

00:13:43.980 thing uh this is just a new form of media all right yeah so the timing of this is is interesting

00:13:52.220 uh you know perfect for the guest i have coming up very shortly here too because that memorandum

00:13:57.340 of understanding that that premier smith signed with mark carney a lot of people were pretty

00:14:01.020 be skeptical here in Alberta. And sure enough, the deadlines are about to come and go. And a bunch

00:14:06.920 of those bars have not been met. Is it possible to get large projects done in Canada? Is there

00:14:13.280 actually a will on the part of the government to get these done? Or is the federal government just

00:14:18.040 stringing people along? Or do they actually have good intentions, but they just hamstring themselves

00:14:22.840 with their own regulations and requirements, and they're just afraid to take on their own

00:14:27.400 bureaucracy? I don't know. But Premier Smith is really getting into a precarious position here

00:14:33.920 with conservative voters who are getting very tired with her constantly moving the goalposts

00:14:38.600 to accommodate Carney, who continues to make promises and not follow through. And it's going

00:14:44.240 to catch up with her soon unless we start seeing something substantial. And I don't think a methane

00:14:47.800 reduction project in Alberta is what Albertan voters wanted to see. Either way, there's a lot

00:14:53.540 more to it and uh head of oil and gas and partner with uh galling wlg andrew lamb is going to come

00:14:59.020 in and speak to us about uh some of these things and uh what's going on with that fast track

00:15:04.440 narrative if it's just a narrative or not so let's bring andrew in and discuss this hello thank you

00:15:09.800 very much for joining us today hi cory thanks very much for having me uh so yeah as i was saying i

00:15:16.800 don't know if you caught that prior to when i pulled you in but it just kind of landed uh with

00:15:21.360 your your press release that came out last week on this sort of subject uh what's going on like

00:15:28.640 is there really going to be any fast tracking of projects or are we just spinning our wheels

00:15:33.760 yeah it's a good question i think it's too early to tell i i don't think there's been any fast

00:15:39.600 tracking so far uh on any of the 15 projects that have been uh referred to the the major projects

00:15:46.280 office, one of which is, you know, the same. It's the carbon capture and storage project,

00:15:53.020 the formerly known Pathways Alliance is working on. So I think it's unfortunately too early to

00:15:59.280 tell. I think the intent is in the right place, but there hasn't been any, you know, discernible,

00:16:06.000 tangible improvements so far. So what would have to be done then to make this more than an

00:16:12.340 aspirational document or endeavor with all of these projects. And yeah, it's not just oil and

00:16:17.260 gas. There are a lot of other major notions they've come up with, but the clock's ticking

00:16:21.500 and our economy's ailing. What are the roadblocks holding them up?

00:16:25.640 With respect to the MOU?

00:16:27.900 Well, that's one of them, certainly.

00:16:30.700 Well, I think one thing to remember too is that regulatory hurdles and regulatory uncertainty

00:16:35.540 is a big negative for projects, but no project ever went ahead just because there was regulatory

00:16:40.980 certainty there needs to be the commercial underpinnings in place and and those can take

00:16:46.500 months and months and years and years and then uh you know your entire understanding of the

00:16:50.820 world changes uh on a dime so it's not necessarily the major projects officer or anything else to do

00:16:57.460 with with canadian regulations that is impeding these these these projects there needs to be the

00:17:04.100 the commercial commerciality there in the first place we do need to make sure that we're a welcome

00:17:08.740 place, a welcoming place for investment. And I think that's what the major projects office is

00:17:13.680 trying, the signal is trying to send. I'm not sure if it's been received or fully believed yet.

00:17:20.460 It would be helpful to get a couple through past the goal line to show that it does make a tangible

00:17:26.200 difference. Well, yeah. And that's part of it. I mean, it's not just your statement before kind

00:17:31.660 of covered a bit of that. Companies understand it's going to take some time and it'll take a

00:17:36.600 while to get through regulatory burdens, but they just, they need some degree of guarantee

00:17:39.480 knowing that it'll actually get done. And we've seen a lot of big projects get the rug pulled out

00:17:45.200 of them after companies have made some rather large investments of time and capital to try and

00:17:49.560 get them moving. And I don't think we're seeing those assurances from the government. They're

00:17:53.300 just talking about adding more processes. Well, that's certainly not the signal they're

00:17:57.660 trying to send. They're trying to send that there's going to be more streamlining, less duplication.

00:18:01.440 And it may not necessarily be faster, but it is going to be, you know, once you get

00:18:06.920 that approval, you know that there's no other approvals that are necessary, sort of a one

00:18:10.300 stop shop sort of thing.

00:18:12.740 So I don't think it is going to impose more layers of bureaucracy.

00:18:16.800 I think it's more just a question of showing that it's going to make a difference.

00:18:21.940 So getting back to oil and gas, if it's a, you know, a pipeline, which is often one of

00:18:27.780 the big hangups we have is getting one, whether it's east or west.

00:18:30.560 a lot of the groundwork's already been done. It seems almost though as if we were starting from

00:18:34.760 scratch. I mean, how much was put into the amount of studies and regulatory issues and things,

00:18:39.700 for example, with the Northern Gateway line or considering the Energy East one? And I understand

00:18:44.120 the proponents of those are now gone and you'd be starting again, but can't some of that be

00:18:48.460 dusted off almost and reused? I mean, you know, geography hasn't changed. A lot of things haven't

00:18:55.220 changed. Why are we making them begin as if this process never began in the first place?

00:19:00.560 That's a fair question. I think it depends a lot on the amount of time that's passed. I do know that applications do stay with various regulatory bodies, even after the proponents have asked that they be suspended for a time.

00:19:16.160 So hopefully there are some studies that can be leveraged for sure, but players change and it's more the people that have to be given notice of these applications change and they're going to be given a new period of time to file statements of concern or other objections.

00:19:37.140 That's probably the main obstacle, not so much getting the studies done themselves.

00:19:44.400 So if the major projects office, I mean, if it does clear out some of those, you know, regulatory hurdles and problems, things have been holding things up.

00:19:52.160 Another issue, I don't know if you speak so much to, but the political end of it, Prime Minister Carney's been asked a couple of times, what about the opposition from some Indigenous groups or even from the Premier of British Columbia?

00:20:02.760 Now, constitutionally, neither of those entities should have the power to veto a line.

00:20:07.820 I mean, their participation in consultation is very important, of course, but Prime Minister Carney doesn't feel or doesn't sound like he's willing to exercise the constitutional authority to finally put the foot down and say, look, it's going to have to go ahead.

00:20:21.620 That's sort of one of those aspects, I think, that would keep companies, you know, not feeling confident.

00:20:26.240 I mean, why start the process if the prime minister won't promise it's going to get done?

00:20:30.420 Fair. Yeah. And, you know, the federal government's hands are tied a little bit just to the nature of confederation.

00:20:35.600 Even if the major projects office gives a particular project, whether it's the West Coast Pipeline or something else, all the federal approvals that it needs, there's a whole bunch of, just speaking about provincial governments for a second, there's a bunch of ancillary permits and approvals and licenses that are needed that are still within the provincial jurisdiction just to support a project going through.

00:21:02.500 That can be anything from work camps to, you know, other rights to use land.

00:21:09.220 And then when you get to the First Nations side, there's always the chance of a challenge being filed at court and an injunction or other delay tactics being filed.

00:21:19.080 So you're right.

00:21:21.000 Even if the government, the federal government does everything it can do to push a project through, there is still this this risk.

00:21:27.220 I'm not sure if it's that much different in other jurisdictions.

00:21:32.500 You know, the states would be a good example. I think there's sort of two types of risk. There's structural risk that you can't really avoid. But then there's also what I call like ministerial risk, which is, you know, just the government of the day, whether it's provincial or federal, deciding that a project is not going to go ahead. And we saw that, for example, in the states with the expansion of the Keystone XL, right? It was the Biden government that said, well, this just isn't going ahead.

00:21:58.760 yeah and but i mean your statement did say that canada is falling behind some key competitors

00:22:04.340 such as the united states i mean we're very similar jurisdictions uh so what is it the

00:22:10.320 americans are doing though that is still managing to get things done whereas we can't because they 1.00

00:22:14.380 do have obstacles i mean there was north dakota of course there was quite a a lot of bad issues

00:22:19.140 with the pipeline trying to get rolling over there there's been a lot of opposition in michigan to

00:22:24.660 some of our existing infrastructure, even trying to keep it rolling out there.

00:22:28.540 But still, it appears that their economy is still moving along. They can get some major

00:22:31.720 projects done. So what are they doing that we can't? I think it's their relationship with oil

00:22:38.640 and gas generally is a little bit different. I'm not an expert on the division of powers in the

00:22:43.740 United States. So I can't say when the federal government can just play the trump card and

00:22:48.140 force something through. That's certainly not the case in Canada, though. So I think that goes to

00:22:51.820 what I was saying, that's like a structural risk that's very difficult to work around unless you

00:22:58.300 can get all the governments to come to the table. So getting other governments to the table,

00:23:03.740 is that then, you know, you mentioned, of course, British Columbia, for example, I mean, there's

00:23:08.200 still, they can't necessarily veto a line, but they can throw a heck of a lot of delays into it

00:23:13.100 through existing processes. Is there a way to facilitate or is that part of, you know,

00:23:18.020 services your firm does, things like that. I mean, to get between the governments and,

00:23:21.140 and, you know, mediate if possible. I mean, it's, it's exactly, exactly. Right. It's,

00:23:27.300 it's, you have to treat governments as a stakeholder and, and, you know, convince them,

00:23:32.980 show them that, that this is for their benefit, whether, and there's a lot of different ways you

00:23:36.420 can, you can do that. Lobbying is certainly one of them, but, you know, bringing them in as a,

00:23:41.380 as a participant to some degree, as well as, as a, as a tried and true method of,

00:23:45.780 of getting governments on side. First Nations as well. We've seen that that really works.

00:23:51.660 Yeah, well, everybody has to see a benefit. I mean, I can understand that if you're living down

00:23:56.080 from a pipeline right away and they're saying we're going to crash this through there and

00:23:59.420 nothing is coming your way from that, you're not seeing anything tangible for yourself,

00:24:04.700 then you're probably not going to be thrilled with it. So demonstrating that British Columbia

00:24:08.500 would get some revenue and be able to spread that around or Indigenous bands would be able to

00:24:13.520 participate in the construction and ongoing work with it but it just sometimes doesn't seem to be

00:24:20.240 quite enough or they're not getting that message out clearly enough to people perhaps a lot of

00:24:23.760 people seem to think they're taking on all the risk yeah sorry you froze there for a second

00:24:28.000 Cory oh um can you can you repeat your question uh well I was just just saying that uh I guess

00:24:34.000 reaching people to be able to demonstrate that there is benefits for them on that end if they

00:24:38.640 have something happening in their area as opposed to just seeing all the risks uh is it a matter of

00:24:43.280 Or the government's just not been communicating it effectively?

00:24:48.680 I think there's a lot of reasons why.

00:24:50.800 I think taking the BC government, for example, I think they have a lot of internal pressures.

00:24:56.860 That's probably keeping them from moving things forward as quickly as, for example, the Alberta government did with this MOU.

00:25:05.100 So I think it's a political reality that we're just unfortunately faced with in Canada.

00:25:10.240 We have a very diverse population from coast to coast and not everybody's aligned on oil and gas or, you know, just natural resource development.

00:25:19.580 Yeah, well, perhaps, you know, going into some of the other projects in the major projects, maybe that would help some of the oil and gas down the road.

00:25:27.340 Like there's mining prospects, things like that in eastern Canada, the ring of fire.

00:25:32.100 Again, there's always opposition.

00:25:33.540 There's opposition to everything if you try something, but, you know, presumably get it done.

00:25:37.280 And is there a better chance maybe of getting some of those rolling along to sort of...

00:25:41.560 I think so, right?

00:25:42.340 The problem with the pipeline that crosses provincial boundaries is that you're dealing

00:25:47.100 with two provinces and one may not see the same level of benefit.

00:25:51.560 The Ring of Fire, for example, and provinces that are purely within British Columbia, they're

00:25:56.920 going to see benefit for sure.

00:25:59.320 Construction of a pipeline, even construction of an LNG terminal, that'll create a temporary

00:26:03.440 boost in jobs.

00:26:04.240 But BC wants to see, okay, we're taking on a lot of the risk of oil spills, things like that.

00:26:09.140 How are we compensated for that risk in the long term?

00:26:12.720 Yeah, well, I mean, right now, perhaps a case could be made to some people if we had, well, it takes more and it's easier said than done.

00:26:20.800 But if we had a more secure domestic supply, there could be ways we could pad ourselves against price shocks from international events like we're seeing right now in Iran.

00:26:29.660 But we just don't have the ability to be able to do that sort of thing right now.

00:26:35.820 Now's a good time to make that case to a lot of people, I think.

00:26:39.660 Yeah.

00:26:40.080 Are you referring to sort of having like a strategic reserve of oil like most countries do?

00:26:45.300 No, I was speaking more along the lines, I guess, of if there was enough revenue generated from oil royalties, oil transfers,

00:26:51.260 that at a time when prices get high enough,

00:26:55.120 that's where you can get programs

00:26:56.200 where things such as carbon tax breaks at the pumps

00:26:58.940 or heating bills or things like that

00:27:00.500 where the government can reduce.

00:27:02.300 So if we're exporting at a very high price,

00:27:04.460 the government's bringing in a higher revenue from that.

00:27:06.520 They can be able to use that for local consumers.

00:27:08.620 Like just showing that what's in it for me sort of aspect

00:27:11.320 to people on the ground

00:27:12.380 who aren't thinking of the bigger picture,

00:27:14.240 but they do have to wonder

00:27:15.080 how they're going to heat their house or fill their car.

00:27:17.240 Yeah, absolutely.

00:27:17.960 I agree with you for sure.

00:27:18.860 You know, and I'm not an expert on equalization between the provinces, but, you know, maybe that's something that should be looked at.

00:27:26.620 You know, when oil reaches a certain threshold, oil prices, then, you know, maybe the sharing between the provinces differs a little bit.

00:27:36.580 That's certainly what the, you know, the provincial government does.

00:27:39.020 Royalties are, they're scaled and they're tied to the price of oil and gas in some situations.

00:27:43.660 Yeah, well, and it benefits Alberta strongly whenever the oil prices go high, but then the rest of the country tends to suffer a little and that leads to a lot of the regional friction we already have.

00:27:55.300 So, I mean, again, if we could just demonstrate that, you know, because those high revenues still lead to more federal taxes that do get to everybody eventually, but maybe perhaps not enough Canadians understand that.

00:28:05.440 I agree. Yeah, I think, you know, Alberta does its best, I think, to explain, you know, what's good for Alberta is good for Canada.

00:28:13.660 But sometimes I think it's a hard message for the rest of the country to follow when employment rates are differing from province to province and things like that.

00:28:26.520 Yeah, well, there are no simple answers, but we really just are pursuing some when times are getting tough.

00:28:33.180 Before I let you go, then, you know, what is it that your company provides in this end and how can people find out more about this and what you guys do?

00:28:40.080 Gowling WLG, my law firm, has excellent relationships both with provincial and the federal government and numerous First Nations in Western Canada. And we also have the industry experience to be able to bring everybody to the table and get deals done.

00:28:56.020 Great. Yeah, because that's, I guess, kind of what we talked around in so many ways. Maybe the federal government, the provincial government, the Indigenous bands aren't doing very well getting to the table themselves. Maybe another party like yourselves can get in there and facilitate it because, boy, we really need to get something done.

00:29:09.980 I agree.

00:29:11.040 All right.

00:29:11.500 Well, thank you very much for taking the time to speak to us and speaking up on this issue in general.

00:29:16.700 Hopefully, we can get things done because there's just so much potential in Canada, and it's just painful to watch how slowly we managed to bring it to market for everybody.

00:29:23.880 Yeah, I agree.

00:29:24.380 Thanks very much, Corey.

00:29:25.260 All right.

00:29:25.560 Thank you.

00:29:26.800 So, one more time, folks.

00:29:27.600 Yeah, that is Andrew Lam from Gowling WLG.

00:29:31.340 And, yeah, it just, you know, the issue is ongoing and frustrating.

00:29:35.740 It feels circular at times.

00:29:37.060 I mean, we know the benefits, but we just can't seem to get it over that line.

00:29:42.140 We trip over ourselves.

00:29:43.320 And maybe that's what it'll take.

00:29:44.700 Because, I mean, I know everybody's got their feelings about lawyers,

00:29:47.700 and this is up and down too, but we've got those feelings about politicians.

00:29:51.040 There's different interests.

00:29:52.420 And perhaps a mediation from another party, whether it's law firms and such,

00:29:57.640 can work around the political aspects of what's going on too.

00:30:01.460 Because Premier Smith, Carney, they've got their other interests.

00:30:05.340 They've got other things going on.

00:30:06.620 it makes it difficult for them to come to uh uh conclusions with anything but it just gets

00:30:11.820 maddening you know we just keep going and going and uh nothing just seems to get done um all right

00:30:18.980 let's just have a look yeah lots of the carbon capture and things in the comments just so much

00:30:22.760 else going on as dave mentioned uh you know let's turn the the page over to the the gun grab for

00:30:27.880 those not familiar with it you know an ever-growing list of firearms that the federal government just

00:30:34.020 keeps the legalizing and the legalizing and all legalizing and firearms owners just aren't

00:30:39.160 cooperating. They did their trial project out in Glaceby, Nova Scotia for people to turn in their

00:30:45.020 guns for the gun buy. And there was like 25 guns came in or something like that. And they called

00:30:49.280 it a success. Either way, it's really starting to come to a head now. And, and, uh, yeah,

00:30:55.780 there's emails coming out to people who do have firearms that were in the restricted list that

00:31:01.140 are now banned and there's i believe like four days left to turn them in or there will be 0.98

00:31:05.520 potentially consequences it's just so stupid i this isn't where the problem is it's not the law 0.91

00:31:12.180 buying firearm owners who had registered them and the other issue is a whole whack of the ones that 0.98

00:31:18.040 were illegalized weren't registered because we didn't the registry was only for restricted

00:31:22.360 firearms there's a whole load that have been banned but they weren't restricted to begin with

00:31:27.380 And I tell you what, people aren't eager to add theirs to any registry or let the government

00:31:32.040 know they have them as they're coming out.

00:31:34.360 It's just a waste of time and money because it's all people who weren't committing crimes

00:31:37.660 in the first place.

00:31:39.040 I saw a post on X with another release because the government's actually, it was a letter

00:31:44.660 that came to the Western Standard about the cigarette smuggling issue and that sort of

00:31:49.780 thing going on and illegal cigarettes.

00:31:52.900 I mean, it's funny when the government or anybody makes a commodity really expensive, there's going to be a black or gray market. 0.66

00:31:59.320 But you don't want to know why the government can't get the illegal cigarettes under control because it's coming through the reserves.

00:32:05.780 Everybody knows that.

00:32:07.700 But the government's terrified, terrified of enforcing the law on reserves.

00:32:13.000 I mean, we can't even dig up these alleged bodies that are buried in Kamloops, can we?

00:32:16.900 but firearms is another aspect of it because police forces our own statistics you know the

00:32:23.260 canadian justice department they find the same thing they know it the majority of firearms

00:32:27.760 crimes committed in canada are committed by guns that were smuggled into canada from the united

00:32:32.160 states not law-abiding firearm owners but where did they come in ah the mohawks brought them across 1.00

00:32:39.000 the river out east well they don't want to get into that so they'd rather chase down duck hunters

00:32:43.980 and sport shooters and people who just like to collect firearms who never committed any crimes

00:32:49.120 because it looks like you're doing something, but you aren't. You're not helping reduce crime

00:32:55.080 whatsoever. What you're doing is stealing people's property who weren't bothering anybody.

00:32:59.220 Firearm owners know this. That's why they're not cooperating. And these deadlines just keep coming

00:33:04.580 and nobody gets there. It's going to be a mess. We'll see. You know, I worry most of these people

00:33:12.600 who own lots of firearms and things like that as collectors, they're never going to harm a fly

00:33:18.920 unless somebody comes to try and take their property. And that might even include the

00:33:23.120 government. I hate, I do not want to see that happen. I really feel for any of the law enforcement

00:33:29.220 officers, if they get tasked to go to households and to steal the property or charge law-abiding

00:33:36.160 firearm owners because of this government law, if somebody could get really, really hurt,

00:33:40.220 I really hope not. I really hope not. Why provoke when you didn't have a problem? They're creating

00:33:45.180 a problem. And Jacqueline Littler saying there's the guns are also coming in at ports. And that's 0.62

00:33:51.160 true. That's another aspect, speaking of government cowardice, because if you look at the stats on

00:33:56.800 the West Coast, for example, I think it's only 1% of containers only get actually searched by border

00:34:01.240 services on the West Coast. All those containers coming in and that's how the fentanyl and many,

00:34:06.520 many other things are coming in. Why won't the government crack down there? Because they're

00:34:11.760 scared out of their wits of the Longshoremen's Union, which is tied in with organized crime

00:34:16.100 on the ports. Everybody knows this, but the government is too cowardly to take on real

00:34:21.940 crime issues. So they crack down on citizens all the time. And this snowballs into other issues.

00:34:30.520 this goes into why we're having trouble with the United States, why President Trump is getting on

00:34:38.260 our case. And I, you know, I've been very critical of Trump on a lot of things, but he's right on a

00:34:41.840 lot of things. I think, you know, Trump exaggerated the amount of fentanyl necessarily that's coming

00:34:45.880 from Canada down to the south, but we're still a threat to American security. And how is that?

00:34:52.220 Well, we see this just with the government's own audit and report on immigration. Look at this,

00:34:57.420 foreign students on visas. Okay. 150,000 of them were flagged by the schools where they were

00:35:06.280 supposed to be attending. They got student visas to come to Canada. 150,000 of them flagged over

00:35:11.600 a couple of years. It was basically the schools doing their due diligence, contacting the government

00:35:16.640 saying, hey, these guys with these student visas didn't show up for school. Oh, so then the

00:35:22.880 government investigates. They checked 4,000 of the 150,000 that seemed to have skipped out.

00:35:32.680 1,600 of those they wrote off right off the back as well said the student never returned to call. 0.99

00:35:36.700 No crap. Gee. And then there were 600 out of all of that, you know, once they started getting down 0.97

00:35:43.600 to what was left and they managed to reject those visas, but then they ended up still staying here

00:35:48.560 some reapplied to get a new visa. They're abusing the visa system. It's right in our face. Now, what

00:35:53.760 is the motivation of the student who pretended to be a student to get here on a visa and not go to

00:36:00.220 school? I would imagine a lot of them, maybe it's just economic. They just snuck off and went to

00:36:04.700 work somewhere and they're just trying to be in a country that's nicer to wherever they came from.

00:36:08.140 And that was a path. But how many came from Iran? How many came from Gaza before everything hit the 0.92

00:36:16.740 fan there. How many came from terrorist hotspots? And they're smart enough to know it's tough to

00:36:22.280 get it in the United States, but Canadians are stupid. I can just pretend to be a student. 1.00

00:36:26.640 They'll let me in. I'll ignore the student visa requirements because the country doesn't follow 1.00

00:36:32.000 through on things. And then I'll sneak across into the United States and do my dastardly 1.00

00:36:37.080 terrorist sort of things down there. That is why we start getting crap from our Southern neighbors 0.99

00:36:43.880 because whereas we can't get on a high horse with a lot of stuff if we can't protect our 0.92

00:36:50.160 own borders because the borders of the United States are very porous. I worked surveying down

00:36:54.720 on the Alberta, you know, Montana border years ago. You know what's on the border down there?

00:37:00.980 A broken down barbed wire fence. That's it. If somebody really wants to get from Canada into 0.99

00:37:06.240 the United States, it's not that hard if you were sneaking. I mean, I know there's patrols. I know

00:37:12.000 there's drones. I know there's things trying to keep track, but guys, that border is massive and

00:37:16.880 that area is vast. I'm always surprised when somebody gets caught doing something and they

00:37:21.420 cross to the conventional border crossing. They obviously were just not terribly bright, but

00:37:26.380 this is where we start getting tensions with the USA and it's only going to get worse. We can't

00:37:34.040 keep track of our own immigration. Now, those 150,000 flagged student visas, you got to remember

00:37:40.540 that they're saying that they didn't have the resources to keep track of them. That's what

00:37:44.020 these bureaucrats, these lazy bums in office, these snowflakes, the same sort of bums that we're 0.99

00:37:47.780 talking about city of Calgary who need, you know, little squeeze toys and therapy dogs to do their 0.98

00:37:51.700 job. They have 11,000 people in that department to keep track of this. 11,000 of them. What are

00:37:58.400 they doing? Not a hell of a lot. Are they fire them, fire them, fire 5,000 of them. What we got

00:38:07.180 to lose. They aren't doing a damn thing. They're worth 0.97

00:38:09.260 crap. Fire them 1.00

00:38:11.280 for incompetence. And you watch how fast

00:38:13.600 the remaining 6,000 suddenly

00:38:15.480 rediscover how to do their job.

00:38:17.500 Because what's the government fighting with them for

00:38:19.140 right now with federal civil servants?

00:38:21.020 Because they want them to come back into the offices for

00:38:23.120 three days a week. They've been working enough

00:38:25.220 with that in their quotes from home.

00:38:27.700 And you wonder why 150,000?

00:38:30.820 And that's

00:38:31.240 just student visa, guys. That's

00:38:32.960 just one element

00:38:34.660 of the mass immigration problem we've had.

00:38:37.180 and again it turns into other things people saying you know it's a you know you can't

00:38:45.260 criticize immigration not just criticizing immigration we need immigration i understand

00:38:49.340 that it's mass immigration it's from it's uncontrolled immigration that's a problem

00:38:53.200 it's irresponsible immigration that's the problem and having 150 000 uh flagged accounts yet you 1.00

00:39:01.160 apparently don't have a competent enough immigration department to follow through on those and deal

00:39:06.660 with it and you know what if you started grabbing finding arresting and deporting these bloody guys

00:39:12.480 gals they would probably stop keep coming over because it's not getting them what they want 1.00

00:39:18.760 is it everybody's cramping on the u.s with the ice we need ice in canada too we got a whole lot

00:39:24.380 of people here we don't need here we have over 700 i mean this is from the incompetent intelligence

00:39:30.040 and immigration people we have we still know we have over 700 irgc agents these are iranian

00:39:36.080 Republican Guard agents in Canada. We know they're here. Where the hell are they here?

00:39:42.040 Why have we not gotten them the hell out of our country? Well, we know they're here. We probably 0.98

00:39:46.980 can't find them. Maybe they've gone south of the border. And you think we got border problems now?

00:39:53.680 Wait until if and when, and I hope it doesn't happen. One of these people who came from Canada 1.00

00:39:58.240 goes down there and commits an atrocity. And it'd be because we didn't do our due diligence up here.

00:40:06.080 Do you think Trump's going to respond well to that?

00:40:09.880 Do you think that's going to make things better for us?

00:40:13.800 All right.

00:40:14.520 Well, speaking of loony left, yeah, that's something the NDP leadership's racing for

00:40:18.560 anybody who knows or cares.

00:40:20.800 The Western Standard recently put a story up.

00:40:23.540 You can check that on there that I think it's over half of the NDP members or

00:40:30.180 supporters, known supporters of the NDP don't even know who's running for the

00:40:33.980 leadership of that party.

00:40:35.040 probably dead in the water and uh it cuts both ways i love seeing socialists just go down

00:40:42.540 you know they deserve it but when we look at the political dynamic of canada

00:40:47.620 the nd this is a gift to the liberals because nobody's going to go from supporting the ndp

00:40:54.040 and leap over to the conservatives very few some from the labor uh you know the real labor trade

00:40:59.220 unions not the teachers lounges but trade unionists moved over to the conservatives

00:41:03.380 because they understand a bit about the economy,

00:41:05.800 but public sector union members and so on,

00:41:08.060 they are abandoning the NDP,

00:41:10.280 but they're just going to the Liberals.

00:41:11.420 The Liberals benefit from a dead NDP

00:41:13.360 and this NDP is dead.

00:41:17.200 But they've gone too far left.

00:41:18.620 They've overshot and they don't understand it.

00:41:22.560 And, you know, I was kind of laughing a bit about it online,

00:41:25.480 but it shows something, go woke, go broke.

00:41:27.240 I mean, the NDP just went so far

00:41:28.800 that barely anybody can handle these guys anymore.

00:41:31.680 And it's not changing.

00:41:32.540 it looks like under the nutcase is running for their leadership now uh just to show an analogy

00:41:36.420 for anybody who's a trekkie out there uh star trek starfleet academy one of their spin-offs

00:41:42.520 just a abomination i'm sure gene roddenberry wasn't dreaming of this you know it it had a

00:41:48.780 gay klingon and and all sorts of stuff going on it was just woke from end to end and people say

00:41:54.420 well no star trek was always on the edge of things yeah sure it it showed diversity it showed you

00:42:00.500 know, the original Star Trek, I mean, it had the first interracial kiss on TV, things like that,

00:42:04.600 that were controversial at the time. But these were things that happened and were aspects of

00:42:10.420 the show within the show, which would we consider woke at the time, but still 95% of the show was

00:42:16.060 dealing with everything else. But these guys just push and push and push until eventually now it's

00:42:20.820 just 95% woke crap that they're shoving in and 5% show. And guess what? Nobody watched it. 0.97

00:42:28.120 It got canceled because it was crap. Go woke, go broke. The NDP is doing it as well. There is a backlash when they finally go too far. And that's what happened to with the pride parades. I've talked about that before. I, you know, I got dragged, you know, and that's how it was back in the early nineties. I was a guy in my twenties. I was insecure. Didn't know about these things too. We had to learn a lot. Dragged to pride parades by a girlfriend back then. 1.00

00:42:54.100 And actually there were great events, got to interact.

00:42:57.360 That's what the point of it was.

00:42:58.320 It was almost like a community outreach.

00:43:00.000 I mean, there were still bathhouses getting raided

00:43:02.280 by police in those days.

00:43:03.340 There was still a lot of work to be done.

00:43:04.880 People weren't able to get married 0.99

00:43:06.440 to each other in those days.

00:43:07.540 There was, there was stuff to be done.

00:43:09.260 And part of it was getting out in the community and say,

00:43:10.980 look, we're just other community members.

00:43:12.700 It's just that we have, you know, same sex preferences.

00:43:15.460 So you get out there, you meet them and you realize that.

00:43:17.400 And it's a good time.

00:43:18.120 People had fun, there's choirs, there's outfits,

00:43:21.020 but the activists get hold of things

00:43:23.280 And they push it farther and farther.

00:43:24.780 And then you get the nutcases.

00:43:26.060 Then it's not just a fun family thing where you're interacting with other community members. 0.98

00:43:30.140 Then it's perverts walking around in leather G-strings and waggling themselves in front of kids. 0.96

00:43:34.280 And we see that at every bloody Pride parade every year. 0.99

00:43:38.580 And the Pride organizers didn't have the courage to shut down those nutcases

00:43:42.960 who were actually embarrassing their movement and making it worse.

00:43:46.640 So corporate sponsors who used to line up to be able to help and get these events going

00:43:52.280 have backed out they said we're done we're not we don't want a part of this anymore go woke

00:43:56.780 go broke you're not saying that you're normal members of the community anymore these events

00:44:02.280 are making it look like you're fringe perverts and i know most of the lgbtq community aren't 0.96

00:44:06.820 fringe perverts but these pride events sure don't make it look that way do they so they've lost the

00:44:12.040 focus and the purpose of what the whole bloody thing was in the first place they should let it

00:44:17.000 go broke. The government shouldn't give them a nickel on any level. Raise money from the community,

00:44:25.700 LGBTQ community, or people outside of that community who want to kick in on it. Start it 0.99

00:44:31.600 again, go back to the grassroots, put things out that people want to participate in, put out a

00:44:36.900 benefit, what your goal actually is, rather than waggling your privates in front of kids.

00:44:41.680 And I bet you these events will grow again.

00:44:45.140 But you got to get back to where you started

00:44:48.340 because they lost the narrative a long time ago.

00:44:51.140 Moderate, you know, LGBTQ people 1.00

00:44:53.880 don't take part in that crap anymore. 0.99

00:44:56.120 And it's not, you know what? 1.00

00:44:58.020 We're allowed to criticize it again

00:44:59.580 because yeah, it became too politically incorrect

00:45:01.800 for anybody to call it out for what it is in the past,

00:45:04.340 but they overshot. 0.97

00:45:05.780 One more shot on just a lunatic before I go. 0.99

00:45:08.220 You probably heard about it. 0.95

00:45:08.940 Jessica Yaniv, the man who was taking people to Human Rights Commissions because they wouldn't 0.94

00:45:13.640 wax his balls, is taking the Western Standard to the Human Rights Commission because we misgendered 0.96

00:45:19.240 him. He's a man. He had balls. Sue us, Jessica. But these Human Rights Commissions are a joke. 1.00

00:45:25.820 The Standard isn't bowing down to it. And, you know, I really don't care what you think,

00:45:32.860 mizyanov all right that's enough for today be sure to tune into the pipeline tonight uh we got

00:45:39.940 marty of north doing shows nigel's doing stuff uh leah's been doing great stuff subscribe to the

00:45:45.120 channel share all that stuff we're breaking the news we can beat the legacy media guys and keep

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CORY MORGAN SHOW： Supply management continues to screw Canada

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