Western Standard - September 08, 2025


CORY MORGAN SHOW： The battle to remove porn from Alberta school libraries

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Smith Corey Morgan Dave Naylor Jane Derek Fildebrandt Pierre Poilievre Bruce Pardee Rights Probe Sylvan Lake Ralph Klein Doug Ford Solid Gold Family Nigel Hannaford Brian Thiessen Elizabeth May Nahid Nenshi Tim Hortons John Carpe Davidson Husky and 3 more
Nihilism, reform, or revolution？ Young men in 2025 THE PIPELINE： Keeping (taxpayer-funded) porn out of schools

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In this episode of The Cory Morgan Show, host Cory Morgan catches up with law professor Bruce Parris to discuss climate change, porn in Alberta schools, and much, much more. If you have trouble getting to sleep tonight, rest easy, because there's a good chance you're going to want to catch up with the Cory Morgan show.

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00:00:00.000 Good day, welcome to the Cory Morgan Show.
00:00:29.580 If you're watching in Alberta, it's a nice smoky September day.
00:00:33.360 You know, we got away pretty good this year, actually.
00:00:35.660 The last, you know, few years have been a lot of smoke in the summers.
00:00:38.980 This year hasn't been too bad.
00:00:40.020 But boy, it's really coming in with a vengeance this fall, isn't it?
00:00:42.980 Yeah, it's kind of a subject for another discussion.
00:00:45.200 But, you know, whether or not climate change is happening or who's causing it or to what degree.
00:00:49.560 But you got to admit, I was in Alberta my whole life and we didn't get nailed to smoke like this all the time back in the 70s and 80s when I was a kid.
00:00:57.440 Something's changed there.
00:00:58.300 We can talk forest management, things like that.
00:01:00.340 Either way, right now, if you've got asthma and other problems and issues, you should probably stay inside and just catch up on all those, you know, back issues of the Western Standard and things like that until the air clears a little for you.
00:01:12.780 Got a good show coming up today.
00:01:14.240 I've got Bruce Party.
00:01:17.000 He's a law professor from Queen's University.
00:01:19.700 One of those few actually good, common sense, conservative, freedom-loving sort of folks.
00:01:24.500 There's not too many of them in the universities and we're going to talk a bit about, well, if we get to an independent Alberta, how do we make sure it's actually a better product than what we just left?
00:01:34.880 How do we preserve the freedoms we're talking about protecting?
00:01:37.320 It's going to be a good conversation.
00:01:38.460 I'm looking forward to that.
00:01:39.440 And I will have some other stuff and check in with the news and things like that, too.
00:01:42.540 Let me get this.
00:01:44.060 By the way, though, we're expanding our reach.
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00:02:05.140 So check them out, guys.
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00:02:17.220 All right, let's talk about some porn.
00:02:19.000 That's what you're all here to watch today, right? 0.80
00:02:20.800 It's in the title of the show.
00:02:22.180 Let's see where we can really screw with the algorithms.
00:02:26.320 This alleged book ban in Alberta schools, it's been making news across the country. 0.56
00:02:31.100 In response to books with graphic pornographic depictions of men performing oral sex upon each other on the shelves of children's libraries, the provincial government set some guidelines. 0.99
00:02:42.840 Those monsters. 0.72
00:02:43.920 In a performative temper tantrum, the Edmonton Public School Board, though, responded by proposing to pull out over 200 books, including 1984 and The Great Gatsby.
00:02:52.940 Legacy media outlets are gleefully and dunefully reporting that the Smith government is banning books, and leftists are making the most of it.
00:02:59.600 Now, the Smith government has pulled the ministerial order to work on creating something more specific and maybe dumbed down enough for a school board to abide by.
00:03:09.260 I mean, it was a political stunt by extreme leftists who are literally willing to keep pornography on the bookshelves of children if it scores points against the UCP government they revile.
00:03:18.800 The faux book ban gives fodder to legacy media outlets and eastern politicians who try to portray Alberta as some backwater book-banning neo-fascist state. 0.97
00:03:27.420 The school board members are playing dumb. 0.76
00:03:29.800 They're claiming it's impossible to distinguish between a picture of men with genitals in their mouths and whether or not that's more or less appropriate to be presented to children in The Handmaid's Tale. 0.99
00:03:39.320 Well, I guess when you're considering Atwood stuff, it's pretty vile, too, but all the same, I wouldn't call it pornographic, but that's too complicated for them.
00:03:45.740 They're claiming that filtering which books children are exposed to in the libraries would be a form of discrimination against the LGBTQ, amber, sand, dollar sign, whatever the hell it is community these days, too.
00:03:57.820 Of course.
00:03:58.640 What isn't these days?
00:03:59.720 But don't worry. 0.96
00:04:00.220 There was heterosexual porn to be found on the shelves, too.
00:04:03.020 Premier Smith quite masterfully actually held a press conference where a monitor showed examples of the porn and has been gracing the shelves of Alberta schools while offering to hold the hands of school board members to sort through them if need be.
00:04:13.680 Legacy media outlets didn't show those images from the monitors, however, because they were too pornographic to be shown on television.
00:04:20.760 The conference can be seen in full social media channels, and independent media outlets give proper coverage.
00:04:25.220 Of course, CTV and CBC prefer to maintain the fake narrative that some sort of heinous book ban is happening.
00:04:30.680 Think about it.
00:04:31.540 The images were too pornographic to be shown on television, yet anybody saying they shouldn't be in children's libraries is a book banner.
00:04:38.080 Rest assured, it's no coincidence this battle happens to be shaping up all Alberta's teachers unions, threatening one of their usual strikes.
00:04:46.280 And that narrative, you know, is always consistent with the teachers' strikes.
00:04:49.580 The union always claims their grievances about classroom sizes, but demands more pay and fewer teachers as a solution, and fewer days working.
00:04:56.660 The more they can villainize the provincial government while they gouge for more pay, the better.
00:05:00.280 And the Edmonton school board is more than happy to facilitate this latest shakedown.
00:05:04.360 Lost in all of this is the question of how the porn got on the shelves of the children's libraries in the first place.
00:05:09.900 Perhaps once the trash is removed from the libraries, people can take a breath and investigate who is behind curating the material
00:05:15.760 and making sure that these people lose all access to children and the material presented to them.
00:05:20.500 I understand the battle between left and right and politics in general, but what is with the obsession with exposing children to explicit sexual content?
00:05:29.000 It's distressing, dangerous, and unacceptable.
00:05:31.640 In the end, though, people are ultimately responsible.
00:05:35.240 And the ones who are ultimately responsible are the voters who abdicated their democratic duty to pay attention and participate in municipal elections.
00:05:41.100 The lunatics on Edmonton's public school board were put there by an election.
00:05:44.780 Many people tend to forget these positions are elected due to the fact that fewer paying any attention to it.
00:05:48.540 So is it any wonder that extreme flakes use that opportunity to get into these positions of responsibility? 0.99
00:05:53.920 Turnouts in municipal elections are embarrassingly low in general, and they're even worse when it comes to public school trustees.
00:05:59.860 People running for these positions are often acclaimed as nobody wants to bother with what appears to be a dry, low-paying, semi-bureaucratic role.
00:06:07.240 This role, though, involves guiding and influencing our children,
00:06:11.740 which is why it should be considered important enough to make people in those roles face the electorate.
00:06:16.380 That's why they did it.
00:06:17.080 This is a civic election year in Alberta.
00:06:19.840 Take advantage of it, guys.
00:06:20.940 Hopefully, this perverse debacle has inspired voters to take the unusual step of scrutinizing who's on their local school boards
00:06:27.300 and making a choice to vote for sane members for a change.
00:06:30.420 The price for apathy is pretty evident when we see an absurd pitched battle between a school board and the government
00:06:35.820 over the alleged right to present pornography to children.
00:06:39.160 These nuts must be fired, and the only way people can do it are to the voters.
00:06:42.020 The Smith government's made it clear they'll intervene if need be.
00:06:45.160 And I'm happy they're willing to protect our children, but I'm concerned.
00:06:47.760 I don't want a distant provincial government micromanaging what happens in schools.
00:06:51.920 The point of the school boards was to have local accountability and representation in the school system.
00:06:57.400 This will be lost if the provincial government takes over, though I understand why they might have to.
00:07:01.160 So do your duty this fall, guys.
00:07:03.240 Get out and vote.
00:07:04.140 Fire the extremists who have seeped in and infiltrated school boards and municipal politics in general.
00:07:10.600 It's been said that in a democracy, you get the government you deserve, and that might be true in general.
00:07:14.800 But in this case, our children are getting what you deserve, and the children deserve better.
00:07:22.020 That's what's got me pissed in the morning today, Dave.
00:07:23.680 How's it going?
00:07:24.360 Good, Corey.
00:07:24.980 Yourself?
00:07:25.680 Not too bad.
00:07:26.340 I mean, still astounded, you know, and I think I've seen it all.
00:07:28.740 And, no, this is the latest political battle that just, wow.
00:07:31.360 Just crazy.
00:07:32.000 Just crazy.
00:07:32.740 So I think I know why, when you were growing up in the 40s and the 50s, you had less fire smoke.
00:07:38.160 No.
00:07:38.760 A little less arsonists.
00:07:40.440 We've got way more arsonists now.
00:07:41.860 They do seem to be sprouting up a lot more lately, yes.
00:07:44.260 Yeah, because most of these forest fires are human-caused, so.
00:07:47.760 Yeah, true enough.
00:07:48.780 I said, there's a number of things, but there's definitely been a change.
00:07:51.400 I mean, we didn't see this kind of smoke when we were younger.
00:07:53.740 Not this much.
00:07:54.540 No.
00:07:54.760 It's a while.
00:07:55.240 No, and as you said, we sort of got away with it during the summer, and now we're paying for it.
00:07:59.420 Yeah, it's catching up.
00:08:00.360 Maybe it'll bolster us.
00:08:01.300 I hear you have a literal bathtub full of honey. 0.93
00:08:03.880 I do.
00:08:04.900 Yeah, the bees really overproduced this year, and Jane, poor Jane, you know, is a long-suffering Jane, 0.66
00:08:09.880 is suffering the mess I've made of the house with everything you touch is sticky,
00:08:13.500 and buckets of half-processed honey are in the bathtub and in the kitchen sink.
00:08:18.260 200, 250 pounds.
00:08:19.860 That's a lot of honey. 0.99
00:08:20.760 Yeah, those bees really came through this year.
00:08:25.440 How are you going to get shot of it?
00:08:26.960 Are you going to sell it all?
00:08:28.620 I just sold some last weekend.
00:08:30.760 I was at an event in Mirror.
00:08:32.680 Jane sells some on Facebook.
00:08:34.380 We've got a lot of family and friends who like raw honey, so let's move it along.
00:08:37.220 And the nice thing is it keeps pretty much forever.
00:08:39.600 So, we will move it, but in the meantime, yeah, we've got to live in a sticky disaster.
00:08:44.880 Well, we've got some in our newsroom kitchen from, is it Mike?
00:08:48.120 Freedom and Ice.
00:08:48.740 Freedom and Ice.
00:08:48.760 Freedom and Ice, who says it's the best honey in Alberta.
00:08:52.920 And one of our new staff members tried it and said it was really, really good.
00:08:57.660 And he says, your honey's going to have a lot to live up to her.
00:08:59.900 So, we need some samplers in here.
00:09:02.040 I don't think he's going to have to be reassigned somewhere just into the cold or something.
00:09:05.680 But in the meantime, I'll see what I can bring in.
00:09:07.920 That's always an option.
00:09:10.180 So, in the news today, it's a fairly busy morning.
00:09:13.300 Our side right now is leading off with a story on blanket rezoning, perhaps one of the top issues in the upcoming Calgary civic election in October.
00:09:21.860 They sent out a survey to all, well, 77 candidates responded.
00:09:28.300 All the mayoral candidates, Farkas and Sharp and Davidson, said they would repeal the blanket rezoning.
00:09:40.220 Gondek did not reply, but we already know she voted in favor of it once.
00:09:45.940 So, one would assume she's in favor of it again.
00:09:49.020 Yeah, well, she had to vote against her own policy. 0.80
00:09:51.320 Yeah, and Brian Thiessen didn't reply either, but by all accounts, he's for it too.
00:09:58.620 So, there you go.
00:10:00.840 John Carpe, head of the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, has been disbarred by the Alberta Law Society.
00:10:08.660 This all goes back to years and years ago where he decided he was going to hire a private detective to follow a judge home
00:10:16.980 and see if that judge was abiding by all the COVID restrictions.
00:10:22.080 And he got into a whole bunch of trouble because of that.
00:10:26.200 And it's basically led to his disbarment in Alberta.
00:10:30.560 It's a bit of petty politics because he actually offered to resign a while ago, and they refused to accept his resignation.
00:10:39.960 And he calls it a vindictive move by the Law Society and says the work of the JCCF will continue unabated.
00:10:51.180 So, we think that they do a lot of good work, including helping you out, right?
00:10:54.560 Remembering me with the Siksika Native Band versus Cory Morgan case.
00:11:00.040 And, yeah, they did do a lot of good work.
00:11:02.040 I mean, it has to be said, though, God knows he's discussed that enough over the last few years.
00:11:05.480 I mean, it really was a bizarre decision.
00:11:07.780 Don't ever bother a judge, a lawyer, you know.
00:11:10.400 But, boy, he's certainly paying the ultimate price for it now.
00:11:13.560 It's unfortunate because he's done a lot of good work.
00:11:15.780 Yep, he has.
00:11:17.240 Sad news today out of the Calgary Zoo.
00:11:19.580 Their adult resident grizzly bear, Skokie, has had to be put down.
00:11:26.260 He was 35 years old.
00:11:28.460 Not sure what that is in human age, but they describe it as, the zoo described it as very elderly.
00:11:34.660 And he just got to the point where his quality of life wasn't good enough, and they had to put him to sleep.
00:11:42.920 WestJet is in the news this morning.
00:11:44.600 They've ordered a whopping 67 new airplanes from Boeing, including a whole schwack of new Dreamliners.
00:11:54.380 So that's going to solidify their air force, so to speak, for the next several years.
00:12:01.900 Temporary foreign workers also dominating the news this morning.
00:12:06.320 Conservative leader Pierre Polyev held a press conference to say if elected,
00:12:10.520 the Conservatives would completely dismantle the program, end it.
00:12:15.180 And he was asked about naming and shaming the corporations that use them.
00:12:21.280 And Polyev said they will.
00:12:24.300 Obviously, the big one, I think, that's on social media all the time is Tim Hortons.
00:12:29.160 But there's lots of others out there that will be broadcast.
00:12:32.900 And our Derek Fildebrandt, filling in as a reporter this week, I guess, he uncovered a good story yesterday out of Sylvan Lake,
00:12:42.480 where the defensive coach of the high school football team, as was given the boot, was sacked, so to speak,
00:12:51.120 because he spoke out about transgender and how there seems to be a link between trans people and all the recent mass shootings in the States.
00:13:03.120 It was definitely a link in the most recent one.
00:13:05.760 And the principal of the Sylvan Lake High School didn't like it and fired him.
00:13:11.200 And that has caused a whole mess of protests, students writing letters, fellow coaches resigning, other teachers supporting him.
00:13:23.320 So Derek's going to have a lot more on that this afternoon.
00:13:27.260 If you want to see his first story, it's on the site now.
00:13:30.940 Right on.
00:13:31.660 I mean, not so right on that the guy got fired for expressing his personal views elsewhere, but glad that it's breaking out.
00:13:37.800 I think people are getting fatigued with it.
00:13:39.980 They're tired. 0.70
00:13:41.240 You know, if he was out chasing and beating trans kids or something, I guess that might be a problem.
00:13:46.180 But where do we stop with this canceled culture? 0.60
00:13:50.020 Yeah.
00:13:50.240 Well, I mean, it's probably accountability is where we need to go, right?
00:13:53.720 If people make a really, really dumb decision, then they need to be held accountable.
00:13:58.220 Well, and I guess those in favor of firing this man would feel that that's what that was. 0.93
00:14:01.980 So we'll see as the debate unfolds.
00:14:04.100 We need to have it, though, because there's been a lot of careers lost.
00:14:07.160 There are people afraid to speak, even on their private time now, over these repercussions on something.
00:14:13.640 Yeah, and to be clear, this was entirely on a TikTok, had nothing to do.
00:14:18.860 He wasn't presenting to the kids, has never spoken to the kids about it.
00:14:23.500 But my prediction is he'll get his job back.
00:14:25.600 I got a feeling.
00:14:26.840 This is Sylvan Lake.
00:14:29.160 For people not familiar with Alberta, that's not a liberal country going on.
00:14:31.860 No, no.
00:14:32.620 It's probably one of the most conservative areas in the province.
00:14:35.660 Well, we'll watch with interest.
00:14:37.740 It's fun seeing Derek play a reporter.
00:14:39.300 It is.
00:14:39.880 Now he knows how the real world manages.
00:14:43.300 A little taste of it, anyways.
00:14:44.580 Exactly.
00:14:45.340 Right on.
00:14:45.720 Okay, thanks, Dave.
00:14:46.680 You bet, Corey.
00:14:47.380 I'll get back to the newsroom and talk to you on the next one.
00:14:50.460 You bet.
00:14:50.860 Thanks.
00:14:51.720 That is our news editor, Dave Naylor.
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00:15:27.740 Let's get to Bruce Pardee.
00:15:29.380 I've been looking forward to this.
00:15:30.620 You know, and to be honest, it's one of those things.
00:15:32.640 I'm surprised it's taken me this long to have him on.
00:15:35.120 It's been one of those things, geez, I've got to get that guy on there, and I haven't done it.
00:15:38.060 So, I finally have got him a professor from Queens University and executive director of Rights Probe, Bruce Pardee.
00:15:45.860 Hey, Bruce, welcome to the show, and thanks for joining us today.
00:15:49.320 Oh, great to see you, Corey.
00:15:50.520 Thanks for having me on.
00:15:51.980 Yeah, well, it's, you know, as I said, I've watched your stuff for quite some time.
00:15:56.240 It's been outstanding.
00:15:57.060 It's unusual to see somebody outspoken in the way you are from academia.
00:16:00.920 It's kind of a rare thing any longer.
00:16:03.200 So, that's appreciated in itself.
00:16:05.340 Well, I think, well, I think amongst university colleagues, I might be regarded as something of a barbarian.
00:16:15.800 Well, as long as you embrace it rather than shut up over it, it works out.
00:16:19.560 So, I mean, there's so much I'd like to cover with you, and there's so much that can be, but I kind of, I want to talk about just what came up recently on social media, because it's been interesting.
00:16:28.480 You've spoken a lot, well, you specialize kind of in talking about freedoms, legislation, that sort of thing, how we could take care of it.
00:16:36.900 But the issue of digital identification came up, which people are very concerned about, and how government could abuse that, which I fully agree, government could abuse it.
00:16:45.760 I mean, I feel that the current move with Alberta's thing might be innocuous, but still, it brings up the discussion with our freedoms.
00:16:54.620 And you've talked a lot about independence.
00:16:56.020 We've got these holes in our freedoms, and we might have an opportunity coming if a province becomes independent.
00:17:03.980 Where do we begin, though, then, to enshrine and protect those rights?
00:17:07.740 Like, this is more your specialty.
00:17:08.940 If we become independent and just flip into the same system we just left, we aren't bringing ourselves forward at all, and we really need to start having those discussions.
00:17:16.060 A hundred percent.
00:17:17.680 You're right on the money with this, Corey.
00:17:19.700 And the danger is that what we'll get with independence, even if a referendum passes, is we will get basically business as usual, but without Ottawa.
00:17:31.400 And, you know, that might be an improvement, but it's not different in kind.
00:17:38.180 What we really need is a new kind of governing system for a new country, because, after all, people in Alberta are recognizing that Canada doesn't work very well, and yet there's an awful lot of Canada inside Alberta, too.
00:17:52.420 So if you just escape the Canada that is outside Alberta, and you don't purge the Canada that is inside Alberta, you end up with a little Canada inside Alberta, and that doesn't get you to where you want to go.
00:18:04.360 So we need to embrace the idea that an independent Alberta is going to start from scratch.
00:18:10.960 You clear the table, and you think fresh about how you want your country to be governed, what kind of constitution you want.
00:18:18.380 You do not adopt the Canadian constitution.
00:18:22.000 You instead, my preference would be to take some elements of the American constitution, but then make your own, because even the American one's not perfect.
00:18:30.200 But you have an opportunity here to do nation-building in a way that only comes around, like, once in a lifetime, if that.
00:18:40.820 So it's a moment in time, and I hope Alberta will embrace it and start fresh with new thinking and a clean slate.
00:18:49.620 Excellent. Yeah, and that's exactly it.
00:18:53.260 I mean, I think of it in the sense of, you know, everybody kind of knows that one guy or girl that keeps going through relationships and splitting, and then going right back to a relationship with someone.
00:19:00.880 It's just like the last one.
00:19:02.100 You haven't learned what you had to leave the last time.
00:19:05.080 But as you said, like, what are the models we can look at?
00:19:07.500 We'd want to start with something fresh.
00:19:08.680 That's the great opportunity.
00:19:10.200 But you still want a structure and a basis.
00:19:12.440 You said the American system.
00:19:13.580 I kind of like aspects of the Swiss system.
00:19:16.380 A whole new hybrid could be built with, presumably, the best of a bunch of systems, but it would be tough to assemble it as well into a functional way.
00:19:24.160 I mean, the timeline makes it tough to do it quickly.
00:19:26.660 Well, yes.
00:19:27.460 So here's my first suggestion, though.
00:19:29.580 And I've got lots of suggestions to offer, but my first suggestion is this.
00:19:33.360 So we are used to a system in which a constitution, if you're lucky, lists a whole bunch of rights.
00:19:39.740 You know, in the Canadian Charter, we have the right to free expression and the right of association and religion and so on and so forth.
00:19:46.220 But that approach is itself flawed.
00:19:52.100 So if you simply try to list all the things the government can't do, here's the system you've set up.
00:19:56.880 The Constitution, in effect, gives the state unlimited power.
00:20:02.280 Unlimited.
00:20:03.440 So if you think of the legislature and the executive and the courts, all together, they have unlimited power.
00:20:10.400 And then your list of rights in your Bill of Rights or Charter of Rights tries to limit that unlimited grant of power.
00:20:19.220 So my suggestion is flip it.
00:20:21.700 Instead of giving the state unlimited power and then trying to restrict it, you start with this proposition.
00:20:29.980 The state can do only those things that a constitution expressly authorizes them to do.
00:20:38.040 It's not a grant of general welfare.
00:20:40.820 It's not a grant of public interest.
00:20:43.080 They cannot do anything that is not expressly listed in the Constitution.
00:20:47.840 And if you do that, you don't need to list rights.
00:20:51.700 Because you have freedom.
00:20:53.440 Because the government isn't empowered to censor you or to restrict your religion or to, as the case may be.
00:21:02.720 So, I mean, the philosophy of that sounds magnificent.
00:21:07.360 The reality is, though, I guess in a governing system, we still end up handing it some degree of authority and responsibility to some sort of governing power.
00:21:14.980 And, of course, when they overreach, there won't be an if.
00:21:20.340 You know, it's just the nature of them.
00:21:22.780 What sort of things could we build in then as a recourse for the citizens to be able to push back and say, hey, you've violated our structure.
00:21:32.140 This can't happen.
00:21:33.400 Not just another finger wagging.
00:21:34.760 We've got to do something to make sure they're accountable.
00:21:36.140 Right. So one other thing that we do in our system, as with the Americans and, you know, across the Western world, is we have an entrenched political class, both in our elected chambers, like the House of Commons and the Alberta legislature, in the bureaucracy, which people are calling the deep state, understandably,
00:21:57.280 and in the courts, where judges sit for a long, long time.
00:22:00.340 So you have a vested interest, a constituency that has an interest in an expansive presence and power for the state.
00:22:09.440 So one other thing that you do in combination with the first idea is you have severe term limits.
00:22:16.140 You'd say nobody can work for the state in any capacity for longer than a certain number of years.
00:22:22.240 You know, you pick something at random, let's say six, six years, six years in and then you're out.
00:22:27.280 And then there's no reason for you to want an expanded state presence because you're not going to be part of it anymore.
00:22:34.080 And so you disempower both the institutions and the individuals in the institutions so that you get rid of the dynamic of having powerful individuals running what are supposed to be democratic institutions.
00:22:47.060 So in this kind of a situation, you would get rid almost immediately of things like the very heavy lobbying presence and the regulatory capture.
00:22:58.000 People are not going to be there very long.
00:22:59.860 And so it's not worthwhile trying to influence what they do.
00:23:03.480 That's interesting.
00:23:05.540 And as you said, you know, that some of the term people use is the deep state.
00:23:08.780 Some, a lot of people forget that, you know, the politicians come and go, but these deputy ministers, senior bureaucrats, ones that you can't name unless you go digging deep into the government books.
00:23:18.600 They're there for a long time.
00:23:20.060 They're usually extremely well paid.
00:23:22.120 And they often actually will tell the ministerial office what to do, even though people don't realize it.
00:23:28.600 But at the same time, just to play devil's advocate, some of those roles, a bit of continuity and consistency of leadership might help with some of the efficacy of their departments.
00:23:40.660 I mean, if you're turning it over too regularly, couldn't that lead to other disruptions?
00:23:44.500 Well, quite possibly.
00:23:45.420 But here's the change in thinking.
00:23:47.880 So you don't want your government doing very much and you don't want it to be too efficient and you don't want all the expertise to be in the state.
00:23:58.280 You want it to be in the private sector.
00:24:00.700 And so you don't want to attract the best people and you don't want them to be there very long and you don't want them to be all that effective.
00:24:06.540 So one of the great aspects of the American system, and in fact, one of the aspects that people fault it for, is gridlock.
00:24:17.060 You know, you have a Senate and you have a House and you have the president and nothing ever gets done.
00:24:23.280 Well, part of the beauty of it is that things don't get done.
00:24:26.940 You don't want government doing too much.
00:24:28.880 And so if you don't have the best, most efficient people in the deep state for very long, that, for my money, is a good thing.
00:24:39.300 What you kind of want is not a professional bureaucratic class.
00:24:43.420 You want, if I can put it this way, you want a bit of amateur government so that the expertise is in the private sector.
00:24:51.660 You don't hear me disagreeing at all with any of that.
00:24:54.900 So an interesting aspect of this, one of the commenters brought it up, Jordan.
00:25:02.720 Let's say we get to the point, Alberta or maybe another province or whatever says, okay, we've done it.
00:25:06.760 We're out.
00:25:07.160 We've had a referendum.
00:25:08.320 The country is negotiating in good faith.
00:25:10.660 We've drafted this big system, but it's not like just turning a page.
00:25:15.200 How can we deal with the transition?
00:25:17.020 We can't have a point, a void where there's no system, but just flipping over from one to a radically different one.
00:25:24.900 You can't quite ease into it, but you can't quite go without one either.
00:25:29.920 Have you put thought into how that might be able to work?
00:25:32.420 Right.
00:25:32.740 So I, well, it's a very good point.
00:25:34.420 And transition is going to be tricky and has to be considered in great detail so you don't end up with a vacuum.
00:25:42.100 But I think I imagine it this way.
00:25:44.020 If you're thinking about a new constitution, then you are thinking in two different ways.
00:25:48.280 Number one is the permanent one.
00:25:50.140 Like, how do you want the constitution to be from now on in this new country?
00:25:55.140 And on the other hand, the question that you just asked was, all right, so how do we move from where we are to that?
00:26:01.340 What kinds of detailed, even constitutional provisions do we need to require the state to back off on all the things, all the restrictions that are going to be included in the constitution?
00:26:14.080 You have to, of course, on the next day after the conclusion of the negotiations, you have to have a path forward for the institutions of the state to be able to dissolve themselves and transfer their powers and so on.
00:26:31.080 It's a detailed list, but it is remarkably doable, I think, as long as you have the set of principles that tell you where you're going.
00:26:40.480 And I think that's the most important part.
00:26:41.740 If you know where you're going, then the task of transitioning from here to there is a very doable thing.
00:26:50.640 Yeah, well, there's no doubt it would be challenging and difficult, but anything worthwhile always will.
00:26:56.160 I mean, some people also play whataboutism to stop any positive changes because they can list all the challenges that will come.
00:27:01.880 And sure, there'll be some, but they can be surmounted.
00:27:04.460 It's just saying, I mean, the more planning done, the better then.
00:27:07.300 So part of the problem we got right now in Alberta, for example, though, we've got a clock ticking right now.
00:27:11.860 We might be holding a referendum as early as into 2026.
00:27:14.840 I think some circumstances are really going to have to change before we hit the point of a large positive yes in Alberta.
00:27:21.540 But who knows? These are interesting times.
00:27:24.820 If that comes about, like how should Albertans be preparing?
00:27:28.960 Or even Quebec, it's starting to building up over there.
00:27:31.460 Should there be, even in advance of this, some sort of general meetings or something where people can get together and formulate the kind of constitution we need?
00:27:40.400 I think it might be time for that. I do.
00:27:42.820 So the message at the beginning of this path was, well, let's not worry about that just right now.
00:27:48.380 Let's get to the referendum, get across that threshold, and then we'll worry about what it looks like over the hill.
00:27:55.220 I think you're close enough now that you need to have those conversations at least starting.
00:28:00.860 And at the same time as well, you know, people, certain constituencies, parties have been putting forward visions of what it should look like.
00:28:10.500 And so there's really no justification now for restraint.
00:28:15.880 Let's all talk about what the new Alberta is supposed to look like.
00:28:19.600 And there are going to be conflicts and disagreements about that, and that's inevitable.
00:28:24.540 We shouldn't try to avoid those.
00:28:25.940 Because one thing that will take this over the finish line is if there is an expression of vision, if people understand what kind of a new society they're trying to achieve.
00:28:39.940 I've said before that in some ways, Alberta has the opportunity to become the beacon of Western civilization in this adventure.
00:28:50.840 And if you don't grab it, it'll be missed.
00:28:53.620 And so that's the kind of conversation, the kind of constitutional conversation that I think ought to be starting.
00:28:59.340 Yeah, well, I hope you help us out with those.
00:29:02.740 I'm hoping that, you know, we get some groups, whether it's the APP or others, starting that sort of discussion.
00:29:09.780 Because what we're asking Albertans to vote for in a referendum is to basically either have a smaller version of the same state, as we said before, which really isn't an improvement.
00:29:20.460 Or leaping into a void where, okay, we'll iron out those details the day after the vote.
00:29:24.700 A lot of people might just say, well, I'm not ready to vote for either of those yet, so we've got to get something together.
00:29:30.600 But it's not, you know, and it's going to take a lot of debate, as you said.
00:29:34.040 When I led the Alberta Independence Party, boy, depressingly, over 25 years ago, I had to have at least eight or nine constitutions sent to me.
00:29:42.840 And these were printed out, you know, and mailed.
00:29:44.620 I mean, the email documents weren't that good.
00:29:46.920 People were already thinking of that.
00:29:48.600 But they were also, every person who drafted these ideas for constitutions, that was a hill for them to die on.
00:29:52.660 That was their baby.
00:29:53.980 That was their creation.
00:29:55.500 And they would turn on their heel and stomp out of the room if they didn't get that in whole.
00:29:59.620 So I think the organizers of this should understand that this is going to be a big, large process.
00:30:04.780 Maybe it's the sort of thing they can work on while they're waiting for the courts to deal with whatever's going on in the referendum question.
00:30:10.060 Why not?
00:30:10.600 Why not?
00:30:11.100 That makes sense to me.
00:30:13.180 Well, great.
00:30:14.120 We're much on the same page.
00:30:17.220 And it's just, as I said, such singular times, you know, as you said, once in a lifetime where people in a lot of countries, they'll just never get that opportunity in a lifetime.
00:30:25.260 Never.
00:30:25.860 It would never come up.
00:30:27.920 And, yeah, so I hope Albertans will seize the day.
00:30:30.960 This is your moment, folks.
00:30:32.380 Well, we've got to make the most of it.
00:30:35.060 There's a lot of moving parts, but that's one I don't think there's been enough discussion on.
00:30:38.900 I really appreciate, you know, what you've added so far.
00:30:41.680 I listened to you when you came out to Calgary and spoke as well and stuff on this from a surprising source from out of the eastern establishment.
00:30:49.280 You've been very helpful for us out here, and I hope you continue to be.
00:30:54.080 So before I let you go, I know you work with, you know, you're the executive director of Rights Probe.
00:30:58.520 And where else can people find your work?
00:31:00.500 Yeah, well, we have a website, rightsprobe.org.
00:31:03.100 I also have a Substack page that people are welcome to subscribe to.
00:31:06.640 And on X, I'm at Party Bruce.
00:31:10.660 Excellent.
00:31:11.300 Well, I recommend folks, check it out.
00:31:13.860 Have a look at Bruce Party.
00:31:15.140 Lots of wisdom to come from.
00:31:16.220 The time wasn't long enough on this show segment, but we covered some ground, and I really appreciate you taking some time to speak to us on that today.
00:31:24.140 I appreciate it, Corey.
00:31:24.820 Thanks for having me on.
00:31:25.820 Great, thanks.
00:31:26.520 Hope we can talk again soon.
00:31:28.640 So, yes, you know, and again, so you know what?
00:31:31.040 I'm going to get on that a little.
00:31:32.120 I mean, I'm an independent among the independence movement.
00:31:35.220 You know, I just kind of do my own thing.
00:31:36.660 People don't have to wonder where I'm coming from, but I'm not a member of any group or party or anything else.
00:31:40.300 But I'm going to nag a bit. 0.91
00:31:41.540 Let's get some conferences going.
00:31:44.540 Let's get some discussions going.
00:31:46.500 Let's fill that void.
00:31:47.860 I mean, right now, the APP, for example, has been holding a lot of meetings all over the province and packing houses and rooms and doing quite well.
00:31:55.120 But they're all just preparing and preparing and preparing and preparing for this referendum, for the petitioning, which is important.
00:32:01.160 But how long can you keep spinning your wheels?
00:32:03.120 You've got a few months to spare now while we wait for yet another court ruling.
00:32:06.120 Well, let's have these constitutional discussions.
00:32:08.740 This is a big undertaking and an important one.
00:32:14.080 Let's see some of the comments from Angry Canadian says, a new Alberta $10 bill featuring Corey Morgan.
00:32:21.000 Oh, yeah.
00:32:21.460 Right.
00:32:22.340 Yeah.
00:32:22.620 Have you seen the headshot I shared on X?
00:32:24.300 Yeah.
00:32:24.440 I'm not that photogenic when it comes to those things.
00:32:26.360 You must be indeed an angry person to wish that upon Albertans like that.
00:32:30.940 But all the same, the radar currencies are depreciating.
00:32:34.480 You know, that'd be a whole other discussion, too, actually, is what's the, you know, currencies would be.
00:32:40.200 That's the hardest part in a lot of ways for the independence movement is answering all the questions.
00:32:45.840 A person can kind of defeat it by just keep running down.
00:32:48.260 Well, what about this?
00:32:48.860 What about this?
00:32:49.380 What about this?
00:32:50.060 And there's groups working very hard filling those questions in.
00:32:54.080 But a big one is the system itself.
00:32:57.220 And you want to make something better.
00:33:00.300 And there's a risk.
00:33:01.600 There's a risk.
00:33:03.080 You could actually come out of it and make something worse.
00:33:06.640 My biggest fear is that you get a smaller state that's run by authoritarians that don't respect individual rights.
00:33:14.560 And then they're even more empowered than they used to be.
00:33:17.220 We got to remember the type of person drawn to leading in those spots is often, even if they might begin well-meaning, they want to lead.
00:33:25.660 They want to control.
00:33:26.700 They want to tell people what to do and how to do it.
00:33:30.180 So their instinct might not work in your best interest when they're at the point of drafting these things.
00:33:36.580 So the irony of it is we want individual freedoms.
00:33:39.380 And the people we put in the front to pursue them are people who actually don't necessarily intrinsically respect individual freedoms.
00:33:46.120 So we've got to speak up.
00:33:48.760 We got to speak up as individuals.
00:33:50.260 We got to take part in this sort of stuff to make sure that our own interests are represented.
00:33:55.620 Maybe I'll call it, you know, a bit of a theme to the show today because I was annoyed, as I said, with these school boards, these horrific school boards.
00:34:04.000 Yet they were elected, guys.
00:34:06.840 We put them in there.
00:34:08.320 I'll say we.
00:34:09.680 I will admit.
00:34:11.240 Because I had to look up, and I've already forgotten her name, who the school board trustee is in my area down in Ward 3 of the Foothills County.
00:34:19.860 I mean, I like to think if I still had kids in school, I'd be paying closer attention, but I should anyways.
00:34:24.140 I still have a right to vote.
00:34:26.100 I didn't know. 0.92
00:34:27.520 We've got to watch these bloody school boards.
00:34:29.960 And we've got to take part.
00:34:31.660 And likewise, if you want an independent Alberta or independent Saskatchewan or independent combination of the two, or Quebec, which is really starting to get exciting over there where things are moving, you've got to take part if you want it to be in your interest.
00:34:44.060 That's the only way.
00:34:45.440 If you keep handing it off to someone else, your interests won't be served.
00:34:50.320 So you've got to get up and get at it.
00:34:52.240 And that's what nobody ever likes to think about or hear about sometimes.
00:34:56.420 Let's see some of the other stuff going on.
00:34:57.940 This is one that I think is going to get a lot of discussion.
00:35:02.840 As Dave mentioned on the news update, Polyev has come out and announced, you know, that he's demanding an end to the temporary foreign worker program.
00:35:09.720 And some people are really applauding that.
00:35:11.240 And I'm kind of mixed.
00:35:14.840 Now, I understand how that's a smart political move as an opposition leader to push because you can say it.
00:35:20.060 You don't have to really deal with it.
00:35:23.340 And it's an issue that needs addressing.
00:35:25.700 And it's one that can really get people, you know, worked up and realizing how broken it is.
00:35:31.120 It's why, for example, when it comes to areas like Tim Hortons or unskilled areas, why are they needing to import people?
00:35:40.860 Why can't we find local?
00:35:42.200 But there's a bigger discussion to be had.
00:35:43.940 I owned a service company or a food service company.
00:35:47.280 The locals don't want to work in it.
00:35:50.320 And people say, well, just pay more.
00:35:52.080 Um, okay.
00:35:53.600 The consequence of that is your cup of coffee is going to double in price.
00:35:56.980 And I tell you what, despite what people claim, they piss and moan really quickly when what they pay for suddenly goes up a bit.
00:36:04.620 But I remember a huge discussion, just to go into the anecdotes, when minimum wage, when I owned my pub and cafe, minimum wage kept getting hiked up on us.
00:36:12.760 So, I mean, it's just natural.
00:36:14.340 I had two options.
00:36:15.500 I could either reduce the food costs or increase the price.
00:36:18.580 I usually would, you know, try to do it in a combination of both.
00:36:21.680 And in one case, because I'd reduced, we used to give out a massive plate of nachos, you know, and they were really popular.
00:36:27.520 I mean, you get a giant, it's a good sharing item and it was a good price and you could sit at your table and eat.
00:36:32.180 Um, but I, as a restaurant owner, you would see a lot of those plates would come back with a quarter of it on the, you know, cause it was such a large portion and not everybody would eat the whole thing.
00:36:40.800 So that that's a good area.
00:36:41.900 I can actually scale the size and the portions down a bit.
00:36:44.680 And one fella noticed that fast boy, he went off like, holy cow, what have you done?
00:36:51.240 You shrunk my nachos and lost it on me and everything.
00:36:53.400 I had a debate with him at the table.
00:36:55.340 I said, well, I had to, I had to give all my kitchen staff another dollar 50 an hour raise.
00:36:58.960 And I got to deal with that.
00:37:00.160 Somehow I could have raised the price of the nachos a bit.
00:37:02.120 Well, he would have complained about that too.
00:37:04.940 What I'm saying is it doesn't mean that we should just keep using TFW as temporary foreign workers to keep filling the voids, but it's not as easy as just flicking the light switch and throwing them all out. 1.00
00:37:17.000 We've got some systemic problems going on in general with our economy and with our system.
00:37:23.460 And, uh, the, the, the temporary foreign worker program has been abused and it's being used incorrectly, or maybe there shouldn't be one at all.
00:37:30.780 That's certainly up for debate, but people saying, just stop it right now and we'll deal with it later.
00:37:36.900 I saw some of that discussion on X, just who cares?
00:37:39.520 We'll just stop it, deport everybody and it'll be okay. 0.99
00:37:41.800 We'll fix it.
00:37:42.280 It'll fix itself.
00:37:43.240 Well, you're not having a closer look at how economics works.
00:37:46.260 And if you rattle all your industries and your economy like that with such a shot, we are, our economy has already been getting a lot of rattling lately.
00:37:54.060 Uh, the, the, the cost is going to reach you.
00:37:56.500 That's who the end consumer always ends up being.
00:37:59.420 So I think he's on the right track.
00:38:01.680 I do think we should be going after that, that program.
00:38:03.880 I think something that was funny and hilarious out of the whole thing, it was discovered that the CBC, yes, our state broadcaster uses temporary foreign workers, but we're being a little too simplistic to think that we can just shut something like that down and kick out all the people working within it and not pay some, some heavy consequences. 0.95
00:38:22.120 The term, and I know it doesn't sell as well, uh, in a political soundbite.
00:38:25.780 And that's part of why, you know, probably has no fool.
00:38:27.460 Uh, he's just talking about going after the system as a whole and naming and shaming particular companies that are abusing it.
00:38:32.840 Fine.
00:38:34.080 But, uh, you know, just cause it makes good political points doesn't mean it makes for better policy later, but he knows that.
00:38:43.020 Oh, yes.
00:38:43.780 And speaking of government waste, didn't we see that, you know, and performative actions, Doug Ford up there at the microphone tipping over a big bottle of Crown Royal that could have been donated to Elizabeth May. 0.58
00:38:55.760 I mean, now she's just going to have to keep getting gin at full price, but really, you know, it's just this, this, this foolishness. 0.98
00:39:03.840 All this tells me with this stupidity going on and whether we sell or Canadian carry boozes that are distilled in the United States or in Canada. 0.96
00:39:11.840 Uh, I don't think the government should be in the booze business at all. 1.00
00:39:16.340 We've got to get them out of that.
00:39:17.660 Uh, it's, uh, in Alberta, it's true.
00:39:21.760 It's Ralph Klein.
00:39:22.340 It was one of his greatest moves as he privatized the liquor stores.
00:39:25.060 He got us right over there and all the unions, everybody said the world would end and everything.
00:39:28.120 Yeah, it sure ended.
00:39:28.860 All right.
00:39:29.420 We used to, for those not gray as me, I'll explain.
00:39:32.820 You can only get booze from nine to five, Monday to Friday.
00:39:36.760 There'd be the odd store open on a Saturday.
00:39:39.000 You can only get warm beer. 0.98
00:39:40.300 There were four different kinds and those jerks would go on strike every couple of summers. 0.96
00:39:44.520 That was our liquor selection back in the day until Ralph privatized it. 0.97
00:39:49.420 The problem is that he privatized the retail end, but the distribution is still totally provincially controlled.
00:39:57.320 Uh, that is all a GLC in Alberta.
00:40:00.200 Ontario's got their beer store and other things.
00:40:02.220 And just government is, it's one of those areas that's heavily entrenched into liquor. 0.92
00:40:05.620 I think it used to be more on laws based on morality.
00:40:08.220 This gets back to what Mr. Party was speaking of earlier, that the freedom's lost.
00:40:14.860 The government's doing it for your own good.
00:40:16.360 And eventually the government does it for its own good.
00:40:18.560 The other thing is lucrative.
00:40:19.620 It's makes a lot of money selling booze, whether you're on the, uh, distribution level or the
00:40:27.520 retail level or wherever you're at, the government takes a heck of a bite from it.
00:40:30.900 And then on taxes on top of that as well.
00:40:32.920 But it also allows them to start using liquor for things like posturing as Doug Ford did
00:40:39.640 the other day with his weird dance between being a liberal, being a conservative, being
00:40:45.040 a, just, he's being whatever he thinks he has to be.
00:40:47.340 We know what his eyes are on or on, on Polly's job.
00:40:50.420 He's just not sure when the opportunity is going to get there for it.
00:40:53.600 Uh, let's see.
00:40:54.460 We're talking, uh, the Alberta next, um, panel tour is still happening in Alberta.
00:41:00.420 That's where Premier Smith has been going around.
00:41:02.400 And, and it's funny how things get changed, right?
00:41:05.380 She, the press was all questioning her on the, uh, book ban.
00:41:09.380 No, it's not a book ban.
00:41:10.600 The problem is porn in children's schools.
00:41:12.360 Let's keep that subject where it's supposed to be.
00:41:14.140 But her thing was supposed to be on holding meetings around the province on how to deal 0.99
00:41:18.120 better with Ottawa and government incursions.
00:41:20.760 And, uh, it's starting to wind down.
00:41:22.960 I think they're kind of hearing their own things.
00:41:24.360 I, a lot of what I think was coming out of this was, was the, the provincial government
00:41:29.520 just kind of trying to, uh, get the answers they wanted to see in the first place.
00:41:33.920 You know, it's a bit of a, uh, a self-indulgent thing, but that's okay.
00:41:37.900 I like what they're looking to hear out of this.
00:41:39.820 So, but it's important.
00:41:41.160 They're holding the meetings, get out there and speak.
00:41:42.800 There's a few more left.
00:41:43.720 Check them out.
00:41:44.220 If you want to get there in person, I mean, credit due.
00:41:46.860 How often do you see a sitting Premier willing to sit in the front for hours around the province,
00:41:51.500 all over the place in these kinds of very public meetings with an open mic? 0.93
00:41:55.220 Nahed Ninchy, that pathetic excuse of an NDP leader in Alberta. 0.52
00:41:58.740 Uh, he won't allow open questions at the town hall meetings, those sparsely, uh, populated 0.95
00:42:03.840 ones he's trying to hold.
00:42:05.760 Smith is ready to get in the front line and take the heckling and the yelling.
00:42:08.680 And there's some of that at these meetings.
00:42:10.640 So hopefully something productive comes out of it though.
00:42:12.700 It'll be interesting to see what their conclusions are.
00:42:15.160 Uh, I see some of the comments, you know, Jordan saying, I like bourbon and rye.
00:42:18.600 Yeah.
00:42:18.940 And I mean, I, you know, I abuse my privileges.
00:42:20.440 I've been open about that on the show and everything.
00:42:22.100 I haven't drank for some years now.
00:42:23.680 I got to say between the two though, I always really preferred bourbon.
00:42:27.440 Boy, I like a nice bourbon.
00:42:28.740 Oh, I miss bourbon, but my own fault.
00:42:31.540 I can't responsibly consume it, but I don't fault those who want to.
00:42:35.700 You want to strike a blow against the United States though.
00:42:38.100 I think there's a better ways to do it.
00:42:42.100 Uh, Jason Corp saying it's a book ban.
00:42:44.500 No, it's not.
00:42:46.060 It's a porno ban.
00:42:47.980 You know, see that it's funny that that narrative keeps going back to that.
00:42:51.940 Who generated this list of books that were to be pulled off the shelf?
00:42:56.540 Not the government.
00:42:58.620 The school board did that.
00:43:00.180 Smith didn't do that.
00:43:01.940 The school board did that.
00:43:03.820 The school board did it to give a middle finger to Premier Smith.
00:43:06.540 The school board was upset that Premier Smith has said you can't put porn on the shelves in Alberta schools anymore. 0.99
00:43:12.300 And because the school board was so stupid and so perverse that they allowed porn to get on those. 0.98
00:43:18.640 And, and the Alberta minister has been putting lists because people say, well, what schools? 1.00
00:43:22.980 Is it one school, two school?
00:43:24.020 No, dozens of schools.
00:43:25.400 Dozens of schools.
00:43:26.280 Those four books that were beyond the pale.
00:43:30.140 And, uh, then the Smith government wrote some rules saying this is what's not to go on there.
00:43:36.980 So this school board so upset that the porn might get pulled down said, well, we're going to follow these rules to a T and apply that to all these classic novels and historical novels and pull them off the shelves because we'll claim she told us to.
00:43:50.300 They're making hay of it.
00:43:51.140 It's a political stunt.
00:43:52.280 It is not a book ban. 0.98
00:43:53.620 It's a political stunt by a school board full of leftist lunatics who prefer child porn over on a child porn, but pornography exposed to children just so they can score points against the premier rather than just saying, geez, something went wrong. 0.96
00:44:09.580 This stuff's not appropriate. 0.98
00:44:11.200 Let's get it off the shelf.
00:44:12.520 It's funny watching some of the other discussions while the kids are getting exposed to it anyways on their phones.
00:44:17.120 Okay, fine.
00:44:17.640 But that's not the school's role.
00:44:19.000 Just because they get exposed to it there doesn't mean the school has to expose them to it as well.
00:44:24.320 I first found porn when I was a kid because I found a rolled up swank magazine in the bottom of my father's golf bag back in the 80s and off into the woods.
00:44:33.080 A few of us went to read it.
00:44:34.300 Yes, even back then kids would find it and read it, but we don't need to facilitate it.
00:44:39.600 And it's certainly not the bloody role of the school to.
00:44:41.860 Is there even a grain of common sense to, you know, somebody speak up and look at that and say, geez, maybe this shouldn't be on the shelf.
00:44:51.720 But instead they did a pushback and a fake book ban.
00:44:55.080 You know, they fabricated a whole new issue rather than just actually address something that's a bloody problem. 0.97
00:45:03.100 If you just pull the damn books in the first place to, yes, I guess these don't belong in front of elementary school children. 0.98
00:45:07.840 Pictures of men going down on each other. 0.99
00:45:10.920 That's what it is.
00:45:12.100 Look it up, guys.
00:45:12.920 I'm not putting it up on this site.
00:45:14.920 That's what they were giving to our kids.
00:45:17.060 And for having others to play that game, it's a book ban.
00:45:19.860 No, it's a porn ban.
00:45:21.960 Child, you know, children in front of children.
00:45:23.820 Adult people can watch all the weird stuff they want.
00:45:25.700 That's their business.
00:45:27.060 Why is it so hard to distinguish?
00:45:28.400 It isn't.
00:45:29.020 I'm not going to make it political stuff.
00:45:30.040 All right.
00:45:30.280 I'm all ranted out.
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