Western Standard - September 28, 2025


CORY MORGAN SHOW: The Carney government floundering


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Join me as I chat with Leo Knight, a former police officer and former radio host, as we discuss gun control, trade with the United States, gun bans, cabinet ministers caught on tape and much, much more.

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00:00:00.000 good day welcome to the cory morgan show
00:00:29.360 last one of september already man this whizzing by the bloody snow is going to be flying soon
00:00:33.560 either way the weather's good for now and lots is going on a nice weird news week everything from
00:00:40.420 ostriches to gun bans to cabinet ministers caught on tape to you name it keeps us with lots to rant
00:00:48.040 about but gets a little depressing at the same time my guest coming on a little while is a fellow
00:00:52.940 named leo knight you might know him online his prime time crime he's a former police officer
00:00:58.280 he's talked a lot on justice issues i believe he had a radio show in the past and we'll talk about
00:01:02.700 some of those things going on your rights to self-defense your rights or not rights to have
00:01:06.800 a firearm and just what the heck we're supposed to do with the crime rates these days um let's see
00:01:13.660 otherwise yes the show's live i see jordan there commenting already use that scroll send those
00:01:18.420 comments my way my guests way i see them all i don't necessarily read them all out but i appreciate
00:01:23.400 them it keeps things flowing and active so let's talk about some federal stuff to kick it off it's
00:01:29.980 been half a year now under mark carney's grand leadership the liberal government is directionless
00:01:36.420 and as inept as it ever was under trudeau's guidance i mean liberal strategists they successfully
00:01:41.720 convinced canadians the trade war with the u.s was such an urgent issue it can only be managed under
00:01:47.020 the brilliant guidance of the economic wizard mark carney voters in eastern canada forgot about the
00:01:52.440 decade of ineptitude under the trudeau regime and kept the liberals in power to say carney's
00:01:57.760 underperformed is an understatement carney's tactics on the trade war have been hopelessly
00:02:02.320 weak and ineffective despite campaigning on being a tough talking elbows up sort of leader carney's
00:02:07.760 offered nothing but capitulation while trump imposes and removes tariffs upon canada at will
00:02:13.420 the canadian counter tariffs were dropped and carney's been reduced to begging for trump's goodwill
00:02:19.220 while the canadian industries suffer carney's failures and economic diplomacy aren't just
00:02:24.260 limited to the u.s canola farmers are taking a two billion dollar hit in canada due to liberal
00:02:29.600 tariffs on chinese cars to protect a canadian made ev industry that doesn't exist while carney
00:02:35.360 insists he wants to facilitate the development of canadian resource industries he refuses to remove
00:02:40.700 the legislation choking those sectors the tanker ban the no more pipelines bill they're still in place
00:02:45.800 and carney pretends to be mystified as to why no private investors have been willing to step up
00:02:50.660 and build pipelines in the country energy sector investment in general has been chilled due to
00:02:55.220 the looming emissions cap why invest in industry when the government plans to make it illegal to
00:02:59.780 produce over a certain amount of the product and carney's hinted at reconsidering the cap but his
00:03:04.660 senior bureaucrats are making the case to keep it and the liberals just voted down a motion to remove
00:03:08.920 the cap this mixed messaging fosters instability and rattles investor confidence in every industry
00:03:14.820 does carney have control of this issue and does he have a plan and not crime's been a growing concern
00:03:20.740 for canadians for years and the carney government's been paying lip service to it while doing nothing
00:03:24.520 the attorney general embarrassed herself himself when he told canadians they don't have the right to
00:03:29.820 defend themselves just before a crime wave hit which left a man dead and a child molested in two
00:03:34.220 separate home invasions the liberals then voted down a motion to crack down on violent repeat of
00:03:38.500 vendors on the unity front the liberals have inexplicably opened the door to a possible
00:03:43.720 constitutional price crisis when they asked the courts to put limits on the use of the notwithstanding
00:03:48.000 clause if the courts comply quebec nationalists are going to go ballistic as will the independence
00:03:52.720 and movements in alberta and saskatchewan well that might not be a bad development in the long run
00:03:57.640 why on earth is carney inflaming it he's also insisting on maintaining trudeau's attempted gun ban
00:04:03.220 despite the policy being an utter failure since it was first announced the government continues to
00:04:07.960 kick the ball down the field you don't extend the deadline while the public safety minister has
00:04:12.780 admitted that the gun grab is unenforceable total embarrassment at the end of july here's carney
00:04:19.180 again showing his strength of will he indicated he would recognize palestinian statehood under the
00:04:23.740 preconditions preconditions that hamas released the hostages disarmed themselves and removed
00:04:29.120 themselves from power hamas did none of those things so carney simply shrugged and recognized
00:04:33.520 their statehood anyways what a wimp he's been hasn't been proving himself to be a weird leader he's 0.67
00:04:38.660 proving himself to be a feckless wimp he's established a pattern of making strong policy 0.53
00:04:42.940 statements drawing lines in the sand only to jump backwards as soon as he experiences pressure
00:04:46.940 a sudden flurry of resignations from senior liberal mps and somebody from his own office gives
00:04:52.380 the impression that they see a bleak outlook coming here clearly carney hasn't instilled confidence in the
00:04:57.940 liberal ranks and the rats are starting to flee while they can even trudeau managed to keep his
00:05:02.540 members loyal to them i suspect the looming disaster scaring those liberal loyalists away
00:05:07.060 is the budget deficit which is expected to near or possibly surpass a hundred billion dollars
00:05:12.260 it's a staggering number and indicating gross fiscal mismanagement while carney's used the word
00:05:17.740 used the word austerity when speaking to the budget he's done nothing but cut checks from the
00:05:21.640 taxpayers account since he assumed power it's the lazy way to try and government govern and it's going to
00:05:26.620 lead to an economic crash even trudeau never imagined running a deficit anywhere nearly as high as what
00:05:31.420 carney has managed to do in six months the real frightening part is this likely going to be years
00:05:36.580 before canada could free itself from the yoke of carney's callow and limp governance just imagine the
00:05:41.220 damage he's going to manage to cause with a few more years to fumble around canada is broken and
00:05:46.500 probably beyond repair and this as this becomes more evidence to canadians we can expect independence
00:05:51.520 movements and provinces to keep growing we can't save it all maybe we could save parts of it
00:05:57.100 elbows up indeed all right enough on the federal front what else is going on out there dave bite
00:06:02.500 your tongue about snow flying yeah well let's just enjoy this first nation summer that we're having
00:06:07.780 it's beautiful first nation summer that just doesn't sound right doesn't sound right but it's the
00:06:12.380 politically correct way to go well we do try our hardest to be politically correct yeah i want to thank
00:06:16.920 you for letting me uh uh sort of enter the glow of the morgan shadow on friday night it was amazing
00:06:24.260 to see we're at the uh uh jccf gala dinner at a carriage house and you and i were standing there
00:06:32.020 at a table having a drink and it was just one woman after another coming up to shake your hand it was
00:06:37.460 unbelievable they're they like the news content and they're and they were like mothers bringing their
00:06:42.960 daughters up to meet you and leaving disappointed when they find out that you're already married and
00:06:47.960 stuff it was it was it was a it was a sight to see so thank you quit the exaggeration on it but no not
00:06:54.700 at all uh not at all it was a good night the jccf is a great uh yeah organization and uh i was sitting
00:07:01.140 with uh with nigel and we had lots of people come up to us too and say thanks for doing a great job so
00:07:05.660 yeah it was it was very good the standard in general it was nice to get to those events though and see
00:07:09.860 that uh yeah people are really uh we're making an impact on them people are reading and you know
00:07:15.120 what they're reading ostriches yes well the when you pass up on the great ostrich crisis is over for
00:07:22.740 now see what i did there are hostages and ostriches uh supreme court says they are going to hear the
00:07:28.900 case and have uh ordered the uh looming execution halted uh so there is much uh celebration out at the
00:07:37.100 uh uh at the ox at the ostrich farm uh they thought they were almost turned into a waco when
00:07:44.100 all the hay caught on fire uh last night uh that were surrounding the ostriches so so right now they
00:07:50.260 are safe and safe for the time being until the supreme court rules now they can always rule saying
00:07:57.880 that they they must be destroyed so it's uh it's a reprieve for now hopefully uh goes on yeah we'll see
00:08:04.260 again a weird one to look at in the the new scroll to try and predict for the year we were going to
00:08:08.540 have a major standoff leading to the point of the supreme court over the disposition of ostriches
00:08:13.500 yes yes it's it's amazing what uh attracts people's attention uh uh i got an interesting story on a
00:08:21.200 uh 23 year old i guess bank teller at the royal bank uh decides he's going to go and have a look how
00:08:27.920 much money mark carney's got in his personal account and calls it up and uh uh led to a chain
00:08:36.160 of events where rcmp were called in and the guy was charged with fraud for having a look see at what
00:08:41.640 mr carney's got in his bank and i bet you cory it's more than you and i combined oh that's a pretty
00:08:46.720 easy bet to win there's some modest accounts but you know and i'm no carney fan but he the man as far
00:08:54.160 as far as on that level has as much right to privacy as anybody else a pretty stupid move on
00:08:57.880 that part of that yeah teller and that teller is no longer employed with the uh the bank so he can't
00:09:04.000 call up your account uh see how much money you've got show those uh double digits uh parents across
00:09:10.160 alberta breathing a sigh of relief as a looming teacher strike appears to be uh averted uh the
00:09:15.920 government and the alberta teachers association have reached a tentative agreement that will now be
00:09:20.480 voted on uh by the teachers a good story from our friends at the canadian taxpayers federation
00:09:27.320 they discovered a receipt from bc uh finance minister brenda bailey she went down to boston for
00:09:35.380 a four-day conference and expensed six thousand six hundred dollars on limo rides luxury limo rides
00:09:42.540 to various steakhouses the the local aquarium six thousand six hundred i mean you're an uber driver
00:09:50.240 how much would it have cost to an uber a couple hundred well for a whole weekend well for a day
00:09:55.560 yeah i mean first pretty cost effective i said that as much on x about that too with uh even nenshi
00:10:01.400 that was in boston with that he took lift i mean he was a sitting mayor at the time whatever with
00:10:05.740 nenshi he wasn't bad for personally blowing tax dollars i think his spending initiatives were nuts
00:10:10.500 but it's not that unreasonable to ask it's just that that's resignation level i think yeah and it's
00:10:16.760 a finance minister so you know why bc's finances are in the toilet uh at the moment another mass
00:10:23.260 shooting in the states this time at an ice facility in uh dallas uh gunman opened fire from a rooftop as
00:10:32.220 a ice van sort of drove into the the front entrance of their building uh killing two detainees inside
00:10:38.700 uh no ice agents were injured and then the gunman took his own life uh the gunman uh uh called up his
00:10:46.960 facebook page and it's littered with antifa and communist uh uh propaganda so no surprise there and
00:10:54.140 i don't think this is going to be the last shooting in the states no and with those ones i just wish
00:10:58.060 they'd use their last bullet first you know if you want to take yourself i'll go just what are you
00:11:03.760 going to take care of a bunch of people while you're at it it just i you you know i i don't know
00:11:08.440 it's not the last we're going to see but there's big discussions on that i mean i i enjoy owning a
00:11:12.840 firearm or two i'm not fanatical about it but i feel it should be right but there is a cultural
00:11:18.380 difference there's something going on down there i mean we don't see that happening up here as much
00:11:22.480 or like that i mean you can it is a very well-armed nation in reality there's a lot more firearms than
00:11:27.120 people realize but we just don't seem to have the propensity to pick them up and go nuts like that
00:11:31.440 yeah well i think you know the united states is in a huge mental crisis at the moment with
00:11:36.120 everything that's going on so uh did you stay up late and watch jimmy kimmel last night his
00:11:40.740 return to the airwaves no but i mean i didn't watch him before he was gone i liked him when he was on
00:11:45.080 the man show in the 90s you know i got some good laughs out of that but not too interesting yeah no
00:11:49.520 he's he's not a funny guy in my opinion but uh we've got a story on the website when you're done
00:11:54.560 here you can come out and read it and find out what kimmel said oh well i'll have to do that as
00:11:59.580 soon as i get off there but again you know interesting more stuff to be discussed on
00:12:04.600 whether it's a free speech issue or not i mean something was a bit of concern it sounds like
00:12:07.820 there might have been some pressure from the federal government on the networks to push him
00:12:10.740 off and that's not good you know i mean it should just be bad viewership at least to it which he's got
00:12:16.260 yes and uh yeah sounds like uh trump could end up suing abc over so he seems to win every case
00:12:24.020 you know he's got 15 million from here and there and all sorts of other outlets so not that he needs
00:12:29.920 the money no but well he certainly keeps things interesting for us he certainly does right on
00:12:35.580 that's all you got isn't that enough i think that's enough those are just the top those are just the top
00:12:41.300 five stories cory there's a lot of smart stuff i know i'm municipal provincial we got all kinds of
00:12:45.400 things no it's busy right on well i'll let you get back there to that room full of reporters and
00:12:49.760 keep cranking those stories i will do so thank you thanks dave is our news editor dave naylor and yes
00:12:57.880 by the way it was a diet coke i was having whilst we were standing having a drink the other night i don't
00:13:01.720 want anybody to misinterpret with that but lots of stories good stories busy stories going on out there
00:13:07.320 and the reason we can do that is because you guys have been subscribing we're uh you know
00:13:11.720 independent media we really appreciate your support it's 10 bucks a month 100 for a year
00:13:18.040 and you get full access to all those stories get past that pesky paywall and then we can keep uh
00:13:23.460 getting that stuff out there as it breaks we we did cover that that that ostrich what a bizarre story
00:13:29.060 and a big one uh as soon as it happened when the reprieve came for those ostriches
00:13:35.060 at the last minute i mean we were getting to the point where the standoff was coming
00:13:39.180 uh maybe i'll i'll talk a little more on that uh after i speak about our guest it's because i think
00:13:44.780 it it's a weird story but it represents a bigger issue again with that mistrust between citizens and
00:13:51.020 government with just how fierce the government can get when it wants to stand on a point of principle
00:13:57.520 and enforce its will on something so we've come to a point of a small ostrich farm in in british
00:14:04.120 columbia where it's coming to a head with with standoffs and fires and bales built up and now
00:14:09.860 supreme court challenge over uh the possibility of killing 400 ostriches which may or may not have
00:14:16.340 avian flu um yeah not one on the bingo card for the year to figure out all right so we're gonna have
00:14:23.640 leo knight coming up here and chatting i've been looking forward to this you know justice issues i talk
00:14:27.800 about them a lot and that's his specialty and we just kind of wonder where the heck are we going and
00:14:32.640 how can we do this better uh mr knight's a former police officer and uh expert in all these things
00:14:38.340 so let's bring him on and have a conversation hi leo how you doing i'm doing well cory how are you
00:14:43.460 good good thanks uh i appreciate you taking the time to come on and chat with us today there's
00:14:48.940 plenty of stuff to go on about there always is so i guess you know uh this you've got a long
00:14:56.900 experience in this i kind of want to start the the gun gun grab or whatever we want to call it
00:15:03.140 you know with legal firearm owners uh that's been making the news because the minister sort of stepped
00:15:08.720 in it but they're starting to actually now try and bring this about even though trudeau started this
00:15:12.860 five six years ago uh in your law enforcement time how much of an issue i guess was it with law
00:15:20.600 abiding firearm owners you know the the ones who that are being targeted right now is it a risk no in
00:15:26.980 fact uh in my career and certainly i speak with a lot of police officers all the time both serving
00:15:33.800 and retired cory and uh i don't know of anybody who's had an issue with legal uh legal firearms the
00:15:41.500 firearm crimes we do see whether in the uh the urban uh cities uh you know the the gang areas and
00:15:52.140 whatnot that we uh we frequently see in toronto and vancouver and calgary um and edmin can i should add
00:15:58.720 um those things are are typically illegal firearms are smuggled into canada primarily through the states
00:16:06.020 and primarily through uh through uh reserves uh where the rcmp and acadian border services uh do not
00:16:15.200 have uh any presence and i'm glad you brought that up i was going to go there actually because it's an
00:16:21.580 area we we do realize that most of the illegal firearms are coming in from south of the border
00:16:26.180 and the most porous spot is is the aquasasne reserve and some of those areas where or the mohawk reserve
00:16:33.560 where it's just a river crossing from the states and uh to be honest i mean our government tends to
00:16:37.900 be terrified when it comes to first nations issues so it's like they don't almost want to look to a
00:16:42.780 different area rather than deal with the difficult uh task of of dealing with the organized crime that's
00:16:48.500 coming out of that spot well absolutely and if you mentioned afnosasi i mean this is a reserve that
00:16:55.380 actually straddles the border between the united states and canada um it's for them there's no issue
00:17:03.040 with trying to bring anything across the border because as far as they're concerned the border
00:17:06.880 doesn't exist that's a problem the other problem as you mentioned uh as illustrated i might add by the
00:17:14.340 whole ostrich farm thing is that as soon as first nations group got involved the government backed off
00:17:20.220 nothing uh that occurred prior to that uh from the owners of the farm or protesters or various uh
00:17:28.580 groups with an interest uh seem to move the uh you know the immovable bureaucracy of the cfria
00:17:35.660 uh until first nations got involved so to your point uh when you look at places like afnosasi
00:17:43.220 uh and other reserves too that's not the only one but because it straddles the border and the police
00:17:49.060 i mean they can assert jurisdiction but they really have no presence and cbsa has absolutely zero presence
00:17:56.340 uh on that reserve uh they do what they want and part of what they want is to assist organized crime
00:18:02.440 groups and smuggling weapons from the united states well and it a lot of things tie together it's funny
00:18:09.600 i've been hearing on the news there's been uh firearm uh anti-firearm advocacy groups yelling that uh
00:18:15.100 sks should be on the band list they haven't been added they're a popular inexpensive uh semi-automatic
00:18:21.320 carbine but they're kind of utilitarian rifle and the reason the government won't touch that with a
00:18:27.240 10-foot pole is that there's tens of thousands of them out there and they're mostly owned by first 0.99
00:18:31.720 nations people who use them for hunting so even though that particular firearm actually has been
00:18:37.480 utilized in a couple of bad crimes in the past the government won't touch it because they don't want
00:18:42.120 to get into the battle with the first nations people again well again you have to separate when we're 0.99
00:18:47.080 talking about legal firearm owners uh who are registered uh with the government and have gone
00:18:52.600 through and got their PAL certificate uh etc uh we're not talking about first nations uh that's a
00:18:59.400 that's a separate entity altogether um while they are technically under federal law the same as you and i
00:19:08.440 are uh the reality is they just do what they want yeah so going beyond that you know we had a recent case
00:19:16.600 since we're kind of on that subject i just wanted to keep it open with you i know there's so much
00:19:19.560 broad areas to discuss with when it comes to crime and that's the area of expertise uh and i'm not
00:19:24.360 trying to beat on first nations but we're on kind of starting on that theme which is an important one
00:19:29.080 i mean there's a lot of social distress and problems which is a much bigger broader issue as
00:19:33.000 to why so many uh people of you know first nations descent unfortunately just get into a lot of
00:19:38.280 trouble and often are committing crimes part of the response to it though has been the the
00:19:42.600 gladu principles and giving lesser sentences to uh people of indigenous background to try and reduce 1.00
00:19:49.800 the i guess the over representation in the in the in jail but it hasn't worked it hasn't worked at all
00:19:55.400 and and i i how do we deal with i mean we we see a segment a social segment an ethnic statement where
00:20:03.720 segment where we are getting more crime and difficulty than others uh we don't unfairly target
00:20:09.560 them but we also have to target where these things have really happened how does law enforcement
00:20:13.480 deal with that dicey uh issue well frankly er corey it's not a law enforcement uh issue per se
00:20:22.680 uh the law enforcement uh investigates crimes and uh arrest uh offenders and put them before the courts
00:20:30.280 and that's where the the problem comes in when you're talking about the gladu principles you're
00:20:35.400 you're essentially saying uh that uh in front of the courts um an indigenous offender will get a
00:20:41.720 lesser sentence than you or i would for the same crime uh that's wrong uh i mean clearly it's wrong
00:20:48.120 you know it goes back to the principle to keep it really simple um you know you have a dog don't you
00:20:54.520 cory or certainly hammer of them and now that's true you probably do uh another wildlife too i believe
00:21:02.600 uh but no when you're training a dog not to pee on your carpet the dog has to see a consequence for
00:21:08.440 a bad action uh when the dog pees in your carpet you scold it it sees a bad consequence you take it
00:21:15.080 out and you show them where to pee properly and you praise it when it does it right uh you know it's it's
00:21:21.160 the same basic principle with human beings uh if they see a consequence for their action they'll they'll
00:21:28.200 either learn or they won't but they'll see further consequences but to to give them no consequences
00:21:34.120 for a bad action just invites further bad bad action so that's just reality i'm sorry to keep
00:21:41.240 it really simple with that but you know that's it's the reality of well that's it i mean it's supposed
00:21:46.680 to be a corrections based system but it's failing in the corrections because the offenders when they're
00:21:51.240 released uh unfortunately the recidivism rates are terrible and and that's not an issue for law
00:21:56.200 enforcement that's downstream kind of as you were saying i mean law enforcement just gets
00:22:00.120 stuck with having to investigate and try and catch the people when the crimes are committed
00:22:03.800 and it's got to be frustrated frustrating when you do the same people over and over again
00:22:09.160 uh well more on that point just uh the vancouver police released some uh some interesting numbers
00:22:15.000 uh i think it was last week or the week before where they said that 62 offenders are responsible for over
00:22:21.560 6 000 crimes this year alone i mean think about that you're talking about uh perpetual criminals
00:22:29.320 you're talking about uh people that uh see no consequence are constantly released into society
00:22:35.320 and time over time over time again they just commit more offenses uh the court gives them conditions
00:22:41.560 on probation and they get probation on top of probation for breaching probation and and on it goes
00:22:48.040 uh ad infinitum uh you know until that's dealt with and you know i heard sean fraser talking uh
00:22:54.920 was it yesterday morning or this morning talking about uh how he's mad at conservatives because they're
00:23:01.400 not doing anything to help uh the inner city crime problems well you know i mean the ridiculous thing is
00:23:07.320 that's all liberal legislation that uh essentially are where we are right now and only the liberals who are in
00:23:14.520 government have the ability to bring forth legislation to uh to try and fix the problems but they don't
00:23:19.960 want us they just don't seem to want to fix the problems no i mean they just shot down a motion to
00:23:26.280 try and move towards maybe a three strikes law or something just something to start addressing these
00:23:30.200 crimes i'd be happy with 33 strikes and you're out yeah when it gets to that level absolutely when do we
00:23:36.280 get to a point of just saying look we can't fix this one they've got to go in uh so getting back to
00:23:41.720 the ground level then with public safety i mean a new factor relatively new we didn't deal with in
00:23:47.080 our younger years was is the addiction though this fentanyl the meth the i mean the the devastation on
00:23:52.920 the streets and the disorder and crime that comes with it uh public safety in general how can law
00:23:59.960 enforcement deal with a lot we can't arrest and lock up every addict who's out there but at the same
00:24:04.360 time they are causing property damage they're intimidating people and sometimes harming people
00:24:08.600 what what role can law enforcement do well they've got to have to be careful how i phrase this um
00:24:16.920 the vancouver police currently have something going called operation barrage which is uh essentially
00:24:23.480 a team of people who are um i don't want to say infiltrating that's not the right word but
00:24:30.840 they're all over the place in the downtown east side which has got a proliferation of crime and it's
00:24:35.880 been well publicized uh and what they've done is they just going and they're staying right on top of
00:24:42.600 all of the people who commit crimes many of whom are drug dealers and many of whom are drug users uh
00:24:48.920 so that's one issue basically it's uh a version if you will of the of rudy giliano's broken windows
00:24:57.240 policing where they're staying on top of everything and bringing them before the courts the problem you
00:25:02.280 then run into is the crown prosecutors start refusing to take cases where they uh they get
00:25:08.680 frustrated they say well nothing's going to happen why should i bring the case before a judge
00:25:12.840 uh the police are then trying to argue uh the point uh and then if it does get before a judge as we've
00:25:20.760 already discussed virtually nothing happens to these people interesting enough i have a friend of mine who
00:25:26.520 i've known since he was a a baby prosecutor uh way back when in the midst of time he's uh he became a
00:25:34.040 judge and i was having lunch with him and uh we were talking about exactly this and he said you know
00:25:41.480 it's funny what but for cases brought before me he says in the most basic cases i can give them nothing
00:25:48.280 in the more serious cases i can give them nothing and in the most serious cases i can give them nothing that
00:25:55.400 was his view as a judge and i i worry about just again as i said how it exhausts and frustrates the
00:26:02.280 front line the people who see the damage i heard a stat recently that apparently i think it's in alberta
00:26:08.040 20 of the police officers right now are either on leave or on some sort of modified duty due to
00:26:14.440 stresses and other issues going on so when you get you know one in one in five not even be able to
00:26:20.680 operate out on the streets where they need to be on that front line it really uh leaves a an even
00:26:26.840 bigger gap for public safety yeah well i probably show my age when we get into this sort of line of uh
00:26:34.840 of discussion cory but you know uh there was never any such thing as stress leave and all of that stuff
00:26:43.160 back in the day uh those are modern time things but you get you know it's created and cultivated by uh
00:26:53.080 by the feel-good touchy-feely woke nonsense that permeates our police forces these days uh you know
00:27:01.000 you get a situation for example in the rcmp currently they're trained and taught that in a if they're
00:27:09.320 responding to a quote dangerous situation unquote they can quote opt out unquote now what that means
00:27:18.280 is if if they're going and they perceive danger going to a call they have the ability to tell the
00:27:23.880 dispatcher that they're going to opt out that they're not going to go i don't even understand that
00:27:30.040 mentality if you're a police officer the whole object of the the job is to help people and by doing that
00:27:37.800 you you often have to run to danger you can't opt out opting out means get out of the job go do
00:27:45.000 something else go be a bank teller well and that leads to another issue that's been coming up then
00:27:51.640 if if our law enforcement authorities won't protect us we should be allowed to protect ourselves but boy
00:27:57.720 the the the law enforcement seems to crack down pretty quickly and pretty hard in situations where
00:28:03.000 people uh take up force to protect themselves of their property uh i mean it's a it comes back to
00:28:08.760 policy area but if we could entrench those a little more i think it would maybe even take some a little
00:28:14.520 pressure off law enforcement if people are just defending themselves we could probably do a whole show
00:28:20.120 cory between you and i talking about the self-defense laws in this country uh why they exist the way they
00:28:25.960 do and and what needs to be done so that you and i have uh the ability under law to defend ourselves
00:28:33.000 and our family uh it's long been a a bugaboo for me uh i absolutely abhor uh the criminal code uh self
00:28:43.080 defense legislation as it is currently written um you know it almost requires you to have a law degree
00:28:51.160 before you can decide whether you use force to uh for a guy that's breaking in through your window
00:28:56.840 uh it's it's absolutely ridiculous whether whether we need to go to some sort of castle law or castle
00:29:04.120 doctrine uh you know that's that's where the debate perhaps could start but at least that debate should
00:29:09.960 occur but the status quo in my view is just totally unacceptable yeah well it's it's a huge issue in
00:29:17.640 general and law enforcement and crime and it's broad and i i knew it was a lot to bite off but uh and
00:29:23.480 the time went fast so i appreciate you coming on to talk about it uh maybe i hope i can get you on the
00:29:28.120 talk a little more on on things a little more specifically but before i let you go then i mean
00:29:32.360 if you could point at one area i know there's a hundred things we need to do but what's one area
00:29:37.720 policy-wise we should be doing to try and and uh reduce crime or keep the public more safe
00:29:42.760 oh god there's a subject um i i think the police need to be uh empowered to actually do their job
00:29:53.560 there are too many restrictions on what the police can and cannot do now uh in order to protect the
00:30:00.200 public and i'm not saying that the police should be able to run amok i'm not saying that at all
00:30:05.240 the police are held to a higher standard and i think that is that is rightly so
00:30:10.600 but uh they must be allowed to do their job uh you know we can get into talking about things like
00:30:16.840 stop and frisk uh uh policies uh and stuff like that but again you go back to uh the broken windows
00:30:26.920 theory of policing is that you you take everything no matter how minor the crime uh to a charge level so
00:30:34.600 that there are consequences for actions and the more you do that the more consequences uh people
00:30:40.600 face the more likely uh they'll be treated more severely by the courts now i say that uh understanding
00:30:47.640 the reality of the court situation today uh and that needs to change too and that'll only change uh when
00:30:54.520 you get uh the type of government in place who actually sees crime as a significant problem and wants to
00:31:01.320 protect victims and the public uh as they as they properly should uh i'll remind you of of uh there's
00:31:08.360 a latin saying it was written by cicero uh many many uh centuries ago where he says salus populi
00:31:16.120 suprama lexesto pardon my latin pronunciation i'm long many years removed from my latin education
00:31:22.680 but essentially it says the welfare of the people shall prevail in law and that point which has been
00:31:29.480 uh you know around for centuries as i said written by cicero uh seems to be lost today with our
00:31:37.400 governments they don't seem to feel that the welfare of the population is their priority they only want to
00:31:46.360 take or make a priority a very small percentage of the population uh you know and that small percentage
00:31:53.240 are the ones that are are committing crimes against the rest of us yeah well i'm glad uh you brought up
00:31:59.880 it you know it's an area of the municipal governments and others could work on that broken windows uh
00:32:04.440 principle and for those who aren't familiar with it i'd suggest they look it up i mean new york in
00:32:09.080 the 70s and 80s was known as a crime infested uh it's a hellhole yeah and uh they astoundingly turned
00:32:15.480 it around not by crazy uh uh crackdowns and and beating heads or anything but just really responding
00:32:21.560 quickly to crime and just not letting the disorder spread and they they went from 3 000 murders a year
00:32:28.280 cory to less than 200 uh i mean that's an astounding reduction in in violent crime uh and they did that
00:32:37.000 essentially using the broken windows theory of policing but it's it's more than just broken windows as it
00:32:42.920 were uh which you know tends to be defined as you know uh small mischief cases and whatnot uh it's
00:32:50.360 it's things like allowing the police to in some cities it's called carding uh as you may have heard
00:32:57.160 which is uh in some cities the police are no longer allowed to do that and carding is just simply a street
00:33:04.200 check where you stop somebody you say hey what are you doing here who are you and whatnot you fill out
00:33:09.240 an information card and that's filed and entered into a computer system so that later on a police
00:33:16.200 officer who comes across that same person knows he's been checked in a particular area and it helps
00:33:21.960 follow up investigators it helps a whole manner of things but in some cities toronto is an example
00:33:27.160 they're no longer allowed to do that there's they're handcuffing police from doing their job and
00:33:32.520 that is a huge issue in my in my view yeah and they stopped it in alberta and they've just brought it
00:33:37.800 back actually and of course the usual suspects are all screaming that it's daniel smith promoting
00:33:41.800 racism but that's a whole separate uh discussion all together well well thank you very much for
00:33:47.800 taking some time with us i i know you're uh out there on x uh speaking to this a lot at prime time crime
00:33:53.800 and uh and you have a website as well right uh well actually i'm i'm sort of uh pretty much retired now
00:34:00.600 uh i helped uh uh get uh true north started uh uh a number of years ago with uh candace malcolm and
00:34:09.000 and andrew lawton and a few others um and i did that and it really turned into a full-time job and i uh
00:34:15.480 i was already retired when i started that and then i had my own website so about two years ago i just
00:34:21.320 finally said enough's enough i'm retired i'm old enough now it's time to stop working so apart from uh you
00:34:28.600 know uh bearing on a few tv and radio shows and uh and providing my comments on x uh i'm pretty much
00:34:35.560 retired now okay all right on well thanks for taking some of your time out of retirement to
00:34:39.960 talk to us today uh leo and i hope we get to talk again soon anytime cory great thanks so uh one more
00:34:47.160 time folks yeah it's leo knight and you know just getting a voice from uh people on the ground and
00:34:52.040 people who've been on the ground and have some you know experience to add to the issue it's easy to
00:34:56.680 sit on the sidelines hey that's my job i write columns i talk on the sidelines but i've never
00:35:00.760 worked as a police officer uh or things like that i like to think i can apply some common sense to
00:35:07.480 these issues but still we i like to speak to experts and not the self-styled experts we tend to hear from
00:35:13.880 much of our academia and things like that though they have stuff to offer but the experts who actually
00:35:19.080 had to be out there and dealing with it and yeah i i really think it's time for people to revisit and
00:35:25.800 look back and i'm really glad he brought up that broken windows thing i really strongly suggest
00:35:30.600 people look into it because it it's a principle thing it could be applied anywhere and you start
00:35:36.360 on the ground with the smaller stuff it's basically saying you can't deal with the bigger stuff until
00:35:40.200 you clean up the smaller stuff when you've got all that disorder going on a feeling of lawlessness
00:35:44.520 a feeling of uh things being out of control it just spreads from there and it leads to the more
00:35:49.880 violent and dangerous things and it was tremendously successful when they did that in new york
00:35:54.120 and i was sliding back down again so speaking of disorder and weirdness and everything else let's
00:35:58.600 get back to that ostrich story because it's just it's been our top story for a bit i'll give some
00:36:04.440 people some background for some of the viewers who might not be familiar with this there's an
00:36:07.720 ostrich farm in bc i believe it was about nine months ago some of the ostriches had been
00:36:13.800 uh they'd come down with the avian flu i believe they died uh but there's still 400 healthy
00:36:19.000 ostriches the the canadian food inspection agency has demanded that all 400 ostriches be destroyed
00:36:25.400 be killed and they've been fighting it tooth and nail for months the the farmers and now activists
00:36:31.640 and people on the ground so it's been back and forth and boy the government is just insistent on
00:36:37.960 killing these ostriches it's been nine months none of them are getting sick anymore you know this is 0.97
00:36:43.560 where we start to get that overkill that over safety i mean if these are communicable if they're
00:36:49.320 causing problems if there are you know draw ostriches dropping dead if there's neighboring birds
00:36:53.960 getting sick then maybe we better rush on this i do believe in containing disease outbreaks when we can
00:36:59.400 but they're hung up on these things and and now i think has become a point of principle for the
00:37:03.160 government they just don't like being snubbed so darn it they're going to kill those ostriches no matter 1.00
00:37:07.240 what and it got right to the deadline they were actually putting up walls of hay bales around
00:37:14.280 where the ostriches are so they pushed back the protesters they arrested the homeowners of the
00:37:18.760 farmers and took them out of the area and the bottom line is they're building this wall of hay
00:37:23.240 bales so nobody they didn't want the imagery to be seen by the public of 400 ostriches being slaughtered
00:37:29.640 and at the last minute so today it looked like they were going to be killing all those ostriches
00:37:35.160 uh the supreme court intervened or there's going to be a supreme court hearing on it now
00:37:40.760 and there's been a stay of execution and the funny thing is it's because a first nations band spoke up
00:37:47.000 on behalf of the ostriches suddenly the government gets scared when it's uh first nations when it was
00:37:51.640 anybody else they were ready to come in for the kill so we'll see what's going on with it i mean part
00:37:58.280 of what's interesting and as uh other people were demanding uh you know test these things let's get
00:38:05.000 in there and test them then do they still carry the virus are they still communicable the government's
00:38:10.120 been fighting that they've just saying no we just have to kill them kill them kill them well hang on
00:38:14.280 and you know what if they do test them and find that they are still carrying this and they could be
00:38:18.200 spreading it then i guess maybe a call is necessary but why so fixated on bringing them down uh jacqueline
00:38:24.920 littler mentioning is big pharma lobbying the government about the ostriches okay there's
00:38:29.400 another theory about them i'm not i'm not i don't put much stock into this one but some people feel
00:38:34.200 that these ostriches were carrying some sort of antibody that would cure covet and big pharma and
00:38:39.800 the government wants to keep covet alive and and so they want to kill these ostriches so that all covet 0.99
00:38:44.280 keeps existing i think we're starting to get a little moon batty there guys i got a feeling though
00:38:48.840 it is a matter of just government pushing its weight around it gets more and more furious when
00:38:55.560 people dare to stand up to the bed uh even when it comes down to regulatory things like this so they
00:39:00.600 were just bound and determined to get these things but now the first nations got in and they have backed
00:39:07.720 off for the time being so we'll follow this and see what happens with it what i want to see test them
00:39:14.520 just test them let's see what's going on with those things um all right so you know a big one that
00:39:21.880 broke on sunday it really shows the weak pathetic nature of mark carney's government that's why i kind
00:39:29.480 of i started my monologue on that uh yeah mark carney got up there and declared that he's going to
00:39:35.080 recognize the state of palestine now people have different views on that among my my viewers and that's
00:39:40.840 fine uh you know i've got strong views on it for sure on on one side of that issue but the thing
00:39:47.160 was carney said just less than two months ago he made it really clear and he stirred people up at the
00:39:52.440 time he said we will recognize the state of palestine but then he put preconditions he said if if the
00:40:00.520 hostage is a release if hamas gives up its arms and you know disarms itself and if hamas is no matter
00:40:07.800 no longer in power and at that time myself and others were like come on you can't give statehood
00:40:13.400 to this bunch of terrorists and jerks this is insane but the liberal fart catchers were out there
00:40:17.880 they were all over me on x and all the others don't didn't you see the conditions don't worry
00:40:21.320 he's not going to give it to them unless they follow through on those conditions well guess what
00:40:24.760 they didn't even glance at the conditions and then carney said yeah what the hell we'll give you
00:40:29.800 statehood anyways because you know you're just raping terrorists right his word is worth nothing 0.55
00:40:34.920 is it any shock that he's getting pushed around like a 98 pound weakling on the trade deal
00:40:41.640 with the united states because carney he put those demands on hamas hamas ignored him
00:40:48.920 and he rewarded them anyway so what do you expect to happen he's he's pathetic he really is 0.73
00:40:56.840 and it's an embarrassment uh maverice whistle saying is this a vote grab for muslim canadians
00:41:02.040 again to avoid non-confidence i don't know i mean there's definitely uh you know when it comes to
00:41:07.640 support if you're gonna do polling and among ethnic groups and cultures uh the islamic vote
00:41:11.560 i mean is mostly very well they hate jews come on let's just face it let's say it like it is 1.00
00:41:15.800 they'd love to see israel stop existing and the front line for that is the west bank and gaza where 1.00
00:41:21.320 they've been spending decades you know launching rockets over the wall and committing terrorist acts
00:41:26.360 and then finally went and raided a music festival and raped a bunch of young ladies and took a 1.00
00:41:29.880 couple hundred hostages so pandering to that group means supporting a continued state of uh
00:41:39.080 palestine next door but how much difference does that make to winning or losing the vote overall i
00:41:44.280 don't know i don't know how much you know in reality that's what politics always comes to though is saving
00:41:49.720 your own butt in your own seat but is the islamic vote really that strong i don't know it seems to be
00:41:56.440 though i think part of it also is uh carney really really is pushing to try and turn canada into uh
00:42:06.920 the eu he doesn't want to have any connections with the united states you know just in logistics even if
00:42:12.520 you don't like trump it's our it's our neighbors it's our friends it's our cousins it's culturally the
00:42:19.080 closest country to us in the world by a long shot and of course it's a massive trading partner for us it's
00:42:25.080 right there i understand we're having a feud with them right now but it does and i understand we
00:42:32.600 should be diversifying our markets things like that absolutely but to want to try and join the eu which
00:42:39.000 is a basket case that doesn't have the resources and proximity to offer us very much is ridiculous
00:42:45.640 but that's what he's hung up on carney's eyes are all eu it's you know they're talking about some deal
00:42:51.640 he cut with some country that that we trade you know that's like a hundred million a year with
00:42:57.240 or something and he's calling it a giant victory like who cares it's a drop in the bucket meanwhile
00:43:02.760 our biggest trading partner is uh you know in virtual war with us but this country's a mess
00:43:09.000 and carney is really worse much much worse than ever imagined but i i really want to keep uh rubbing his
00:43:16.600 nose in it yeah you could hear the hostility with me on my thoughts on the situation with
00:43:21.240 israel and palestine but again if you're going to put conditions on something if you're going to say
00:43:26.120 we're going to do this if you do that and then you don't even try to follow through
00:43:32.120 weakness complete weakness you can't negotiate anything you've just lost all credibility nobody
00:43:38.440 will take your word for anything and nor should we liberals as usual he seems in some senses to even
00:43:44.600 be worse than trudeau i didn't think that was going to be possible but in six months he is coming
00:43:49.480 close to pulling off but then let's get on to ndp socialists in general this is one of those great
00:43:56.920 examples of it right the canadian taxpayers federation dave mentioned that earlier so bc's finance minister
00:44:01.720 the one in charge of the purse strings in bc brenda bailey went to boston i could see some parody 0.99
00:44:06.280 songs coming out of that but yeah blue 6600 tax dollars on limousine service what a classic socialist she 1.00
00:44:14.200 is what a classic ndp person this is the one that wants to steal the money out of everybody else
00:44:19.080 for taxes in the name of equality so we all live equally in a standardized level of poverty and
00:44:25.080 misery oh except for us except for us we're going to take limo service we're going to eat caviar we're
00:44:31.000 going to drink champagne socialism to a t it happens that way every time guys you know i i i was fighting
00:44:38.920 with some folks on x because i showed a picture of the old soviet row housing and talked about this is what
00:44:42.760 happens when the government gets into housing and oh a bunch of socialists gather all pissy with me
00:44:47.240 but it's the truth and i i've mentioned it before on here a couple times i went to i got
00:44:51.400 to tour the soviet union back when i was 17 years old and i went through moscow and and uh what was
00:44:56.360 called lending grant at the time and i got to see a lot of things but something was interesting
00:45:00.200 all those rotten oil burning lottas all over the place and crappy cars and crappy houses and
00:45:05.320 everything else but you got along the kremlin area suddenly it's bmws and mercedes because the senior
00:45:11.800 bureaucrats and the politicians those socialists they live high on the hog while sucking it all 0.99
00:45:17.160 out of you and making it illegal to grow this is where we're moving towards guys this is what
00:45:21.800 carney's bringing us to free the west because i don't think we can save the rest either way thank
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