00:00:00.000Good day, welcome to the Corey Morgan Show.
00:00:29.520So post-May long weekend, I hope you've shoveled all that traditional May long weekend snow off of your sidewalks and driveways.
00:00:37.060Or as I'm sure it'll be corrected soon for not mentioning, it's Victoria Day long weekend.
00:00:42.700And unlike the Prime Minister, I'm not going to bother going into addressing other, what, Sikh groups and so on that have observances on that day either way.
00:00:51.480But maybe we'll start seeing spring and summer coming along sometime soon.
00:05:02.860It's managing neither, as it funds productions
00:05:04.880that attack prominent Canadians and perpetuate the narrative that Canada is a genocidal nation
00:05:09.540that must be ashamed of itself. Their targets are icons of Canadian pride, such as the RCMP
00:05:14.340and the country's founder, Sir John A. MacDonald. Critical commentary is certainly fair and has
00:05:19.020been applied liberal to the RCMP and past political figures. This ongoing campaign to
00:05:24.400villainize them, though, is abhorrent. The CBC has announced it's tapped the brakes on the Forge
00:05:28.620Media production now, but that's too little too late. Independence movements are blossoming across
00:05:33.500this country and anybody would really be shocked when the cbc gets 1.5 billion a year to attack the
00:05:37.960history pride and foundation of the nation the best time to defund the cbc was decades ago
00:05:43.700the next best time is right now it's just enough out of these guys by the way i just saw just
00:05:48.840before the show started the rcmp is engaging their legal services team so they may be suing the cbc
00:05:55.060for this stunt of course the problem is we get to pay for it either way so no matter what happens
00:06:00.320we lose all right well that's what's kind of got me ranching to start with let's see what else is
00:06:05.140happening in the news dave it's victoria day victoria day i figured that was coming it's
00:06:09.740always taxpayers that lose isn't it it's funny how that is yes uh i don't have much left to lose
00:06:15.120no no kidding they see you finally have some action on the trail cam oh the fox there yeah
00:06:20.540yeah that was quite something um this coyote came running up if people saw the video in the
00:06:27.380middle of the night and stopped right in front of the camera. Then you can see a pair of eyes off
00:06:31.040in the distance. And then the eyes turned out to be a fox that came running towards the coyote with
00:06:36.700something in its mouth, probably a rabbit. And the coyote turned tail and ran. And then the fox
00:06:41.140turned around, went the other way. A little bit of wildlife drama. There you go. I wouldn't have
00:06:48.120thought that a coyote would run away from a fox. Yeah, maybe it didn't know what it was. No, maybe
00:06:52.360you hear something crashing through the woods up there in the night. You know my trail cam, it could
00:06:55.280be anything so it could be anything i'd be you could be could be you running naked up through
00:06:59.480the woods yeah or stock drinking so that doesn't happen nearly as much as it used to not as much
00:07:03.140as it used to well that's the news today corey where to begin let's let's stay away from politics
00:07:08.200for a few minutes uh our winnipeg police service has announced the biggest uh drug bust in manitoba
00:07:16.680history 570 plus kilos of fentanyl and meth and cocaine 33 people arrested all involving mexican
00:07:27.960cartels the hell's angels and the wolfpack alliance uh so sounds like some good police work0.81
00:07:36.200was done there and there's gonna be some mad mexican cartel leaders that all their dope got
00:07:41.480uh got serious a lot that's a lot of dope isn't it you know um all right we'll go back to politics0.66
00:07:49.320uh government has announced new uh uh order crossing signs i guess for lack of a better
00:07:56.440thing when you drive into alberta from the united states uh you know the north bc or saskatchewan
00:08:03.560you're going to be greeted with a new welcome to alberta land of strong and free so that's
00:08:10.600going to be the same as on your license plate coming uh coming up this year it's funny some
00:08:14.840people of course have gotten worked up about that and i i remember when they first discussed they're
00:08:18.920putting a separatist slogan on there that slogan's been around for alberta for a long long time
00:08:23.400they're just putting it out yeah uh though i think it's no mistake on the government's part either i
00:08:27.720mean it is a you know it implies something when you see sure can i like it yep absolutely uh
00:08:35.320parliamentary budget office put out a big report today on the world cup of canada hosting it as
00:08:40.520you know starts next month we get 13 games between uh vancouver and toronto uh total cost uh one
00:08:49.080billion dollars and rising well spares money again yes well you know we discussed this when this was
00:08:55.880first announced i mean there's difference you're a big football fan i am i am not so i find it a
00:09:02.040little more painful when you know i'd love to see an nfl game come up here but i don't think the tax
00:09:06.360dollars should go with it no no no exactly well they used to be held in toronto all the time
00:09:11.400didn't they once a year buffalo uh buffalo game was played there well we'll see what comes of it
00:09:18.200yeah i met you know it wouldn't surprise me if that billion dollars doubled right once the
00:09:24.280rcmp handed in their bill uh bill for security uh what else we got cory uh
00:09:30.200The Calgary Councillor Landon Johnson sort of landed himself in a bit of hot water.
00:09:37.860The City of Calgary gives out a series of passes, subsidized passes for things like transit, taxis, sporting facilities and stuff for low-income newcomers to the city.
00:09:54.240So Alderman Johnson, you're familiar with, launched the Gondek petition campaign and did very well until the city nixed it.
00:10:03.700He is saying that maybe we should take a look at that pass just being held for Canadian citizens.
00:10:08.840So that's drawn some strong, strong criticism on both sides of the border or the issue.
00:10:17.180Well, I mean, it's an interesting one.
00:10:18.780I mean, it follows along with some of the provincial stuff that Premier Smith have been talking about,
00:10:22.480Reducing some services for people who aren't citizens, but I understand some on the other end.
00:10:26.780I mean, if they're newcomers and they're low income, is it going to make them any better if they can't afford to get to a job to try to get to work?
00:10:32.140Or if their kids can't get to a rec center to productively blow off steam, I guess you could say.
00:10:38.700It depends where the line's drawn, I guess.
00:12:40.240covering them so we can break them to you as fast as you can.
00:12:42.260And you don't have to rely on garbage institutions like the CBC, as I mentioned them earlier.
00:12:50.020One of our reporters is up in Edmonton.
00:12:51.560The big news thing, and I've seen some commenters kind of asking about it, you know, is a referendum going to be called today or tomorrow or ever on independence in Alberta?
00:19:52.000But in the meantime, Alberta is going to accept an ever-growing carbon tax on its federal,
00:19:56.780uh or not it's federal but on its industrial uh capacity which doesn't sound like a good
00:20:01.840concession to me franco tarzano from the canadian taxpayers federation i'm certain would have some
00:20:06.040more to add on that so let's bring him in hey franco how's it going cory it's going great man
00:20:10.780thanks for having me on the show oh always a pleasure uh especially you know when it comes
00:20:16.000to tax issues maybe if you could just to give a little background because it's kind of coming up
00:20:21.280you know some people didn't realize or under the impression okay the carbon tax is gone carney got
00:20:26.480rid of the carbon tax but that he only got rid of one carbon tax we still got another one don't we
00:20:31.640yeah that's right so when Trudeau brought in that carbon tax there's really two parts of it
00:20:37.220right there was that consumer facing carbon tax the one you paid essentially directly on your
00:20:42.300natural gas bill or at the pumps right the visible carbon tax that you could see so Carney canceled
00:20:48.760that one but the other part of the Trudeau era carbon taxes was this hidden carbon tax on Canadian
00:20:54.760business, right? You often hear the media, politicians, pundits call it the industrial
00:20:59.500carbon tax, but really it's just a hidden carbon tax on Canadian businesses like steel,
00:21:05.340like fertilizer plants, like electricity generation, but also on oil and gas projects
00:21:10.760as well, right? And what I always like to say is a carbon tax is a carbon tax is a carbon tax.
00:21:16.200It doesn't matter what type of lipstick politicians put on their carbon tax pig.
00:21:20.880all carbon taxes make life more expensive, all carbon taxes hurt Canadian businesses and their
00:21:26.700workers, and carbon taxes too, quite frankly, don't work towards these politicians' stated
00:21:32.160intentions. No, emissions don't get reduced by them. It just has to be a grab. So with the big
00:21:39.160press conference last week, though, we saw Premier Smith and Prime Minister Carney celebrating that
00:21:46.000they're only going to increase it to 130 by a certain date uh would you call that a victory
00:21:51.140no are you kidding it's a carbon tax hike what are we talking about right like cory uh you're
00:21:58.160making me miss home you're making me miss alberta right i think of alberta and i think alberta should
00:22:03.580be carbon tax free i don't care what they call their type of carbon tax albertans shouldn't be
00:22:08.560paying any carbon tax uh by the way for a while now saskatchewan has been carbon tax free right
00:22:14.420We're starting to see Scott Moe wobble a little bit right now, but previously Scott Moe just said
00:22:20.420he's not playing that game and he said the industrial carbon tax to zero. That's what
00:22:25.100should be happening in Alberta. Now, Corey, let me just give you the facts and then we can kind of
00:22:30.720talk about the politics of it, okay? So you just got to listen to what Carney said on the
00:22:35.060technicalities. Before negotiating with Alberta, right, before that original MOU was signed,
00:22:41.120the effective industrial carbon tax rate so the actual carbon tax was about $20 a ton now it's
00:22:48.880about $40 a ton by 2040 under this agreement it's going to be $130 a ton okay to quote Kearney
00:22:58.000directly it's a six and a half times increase to the industrial carbon tax okay does that sound
00:23:04.820like a victory to you, Corey? Come on. No, and I was just floored by it. I mean, how over a barrel
00:23:12.160is our provincial government to try and get a project done? That's the concession you have to
00:23:17.540give to the federal government, a massively increasing carbon tax. I know it's politics
00:23:24.580and Premier Smith has to project some positivity, but how can, you know, definitely somebody who we
00:23:30.840know as a fiscal conservative as a person how can you smile and say this was a victory to see this
00:23:36.040thing rising just because it's not rising as quickly or as high as some people might have
00:23:40.720projected earlier well and look look we we you almost got to disregard the headline price right
00:23:46.900because that's what uh premier smith in their office a couple you know i've had even one person
00:23:52.200in premier smith's office come after me on twitter but they're just incorrect when they're looking at
00:23:56.700headline price, what you have to look at is the effective tax, right? What are companies actually
00:24:02.440paying? And Carney on the technicality is very clear. It was $20 a ton. It's now 40. It's going
00:24:09.560up to $130 a ton by 2040. So look, that is a huge carbon tax increase. But Corey, I think the key
00:24:17.840takeaway for all of your listeners and for all Albertans and really all Canadians, the key
00:24:23.160takeaway from this agreement is this carbon tax hikes are a certainty a pipeline is a maybe
00:24:29.900right so when i when i see this agreement like i understand why why the premier of alberta and
00:24:35.760quite frankly why any premier of alberta uh should be pushing for pipelines but what we should be
00:24:41.360seeing these provincial politicians be doing is to tell ottawa to stop roadblocking development
00:24:46.660scrap all carbon taxes and let businesses build pipelines with their own money not with taxpayers
00:24:52.840And that's something that we don't have the details on, but it's something, of course, that we're very worried about. And, you know, Corey, when I see this agreement, you know what I think about? Charlie Brown, Lucy and the football, right? You know, how many times have we been told, oh, just pay your carbon taxes and don't worry, a pipeline will come about this.
00:25:10.820Well, I remember when that was the argument that Rachel Notley made, right, way back in the day when her government was in power.
00:25:18.060And, you know, despite bringing in a provincial consumer carbon tax, you had Canada's political system chase away the private company that wanted to spend billions of its own dollars to twin its own pipeline.
00:25:30.140Right. But the political system chased that away, even though Albertans were paying a consumer carbon tax from the Notley government.
00:25:37.460Well, now with this industrial carbon tax, just so people understand the kind of damage this sort of thing causes, it reduces, it basically takes a shave out of whatever they produce.
00:25:47.500And it ensures they must have a very high resource price to be able to make a profit because they're not going to be able to make as much as they typically could without that tax, which means they invest in other jurisdictions or they tap the brakes on capital investments.
00:26:00.880Or as we've seen and heard so many times, even RBC saying Canada is not a good place to invest.
00:26:06.760We've lost up to possibly a trillion dollars in investment.
00:26:10.220So, I mean, yeah, we don't see it directly on our consumer prices,
00:26:12.700but we see it as an economic hit that hits everybody in the long run.
00:26:16.180Well, look, I say the, and Corey, I was actually just in the Environment Committee
00:26:20.260in Parliament, right, testifying against the Industrial Carbon Tax.
00:26:23.820And the two things, the point I was trying to make is like,
00:26:26.440the Industrial Carbon Tax, this hidden carbon tax on Canadian business,
00:26:35.640I mean, you don't need a Ph.D. in economics to understand that when the government imposes carbon taxes on refineries, that makes driving more expensive.
00:26:44.140When the government imposes carbon taxes on fertilizer plants, that makes food more expensive.
00:26:48.900And when the government imposes carbon taxes on electricity, that makes it more expensive to live.
00:26:54.500OK, but now let's look at the other side of the coin, right, because this is an industrial carbon tax on Canadian business.
00:27:00.080Hey, guess what jurisdiction is not imposing national carbon taxes?
00:27:04.880regardless of who is in power the united states our biggest uh economic competitor okay so what
00:27:11.840an industrial carbon tax does is it pushes our entrepreneurs to cut production here and set up
00:27:17.600shop just south of the border let me give you two examples okay so when the government imposes an
00:27:23.680industrial carbon tax right that doesn't reduce emissions right it just pushes that oil and gas
00:27:29.520project out of Alberta to Texas. When the government imposes an industrial carbon tax
00:27:35.600on fertilizer plants, again, that does not cut emissions. It just pushes that fertilizer plant
00:27:41.240out of Manitoba across the border into North Dakota. Yes, which is the opposite of what
00:27:49.100Carney said he was going to be doing. It's certainly making the orange man south of the0.97
00:27:52.500border succeed in what he was saying, which is pulling everything down into them. For an economic0.98
00:27:57.220wizard mark carney's uh tactics seem questionable at best uh well i'll let you off on the carbon tax
00:28:03.700i just wanted that laid out because it's just uh i i've been having a hard time i'm typically
00:28:07.780supportive of the smith government but when you trumpet that as a victory i'm sorry but i've got
00:28:12.100to call some bs guys this was not a victory this was a a gross concession that's going to harm all
00:28:17.700of us uh but you've got plenty of other to work uh things to work on in there in ottawa since i've
00:28:22.500got you what else is the taxpayers federation up to i mean they tax us many many ways over there
00:28:27.860well we've been breaking some big uh some big big waste stories right so we got a i mean you know
00:28:33.220our investigative journalist quite well jen hodgson she's been doing great work for us and i know the
00:28:36.900western standard has been reporting on this so so thanks to you but um let me just give you a couple
00:28:42.180crazy stories right so you might remember folks when uh the former cbc uh head was in committee
00:28:48.900you know bragging about its gem streaming service right well this uh founder of open by default the
00:28:55.060transparency group sent in this access to information request saying okay well how many
00:28:59.460subscribers do you have to gem now the cbc refused to disclose the records the information commissioner
00:29:06.100then said cbc disclosed the records but instead of being transparent with with canadians instead
00:29:11.380of listening to the information commissioner uh we got records showing that the cbc is now spending
00:29:16.340$59,000 going to court to keep those numbers hidden. Right, Corey? Now, you know what I'm
00:29:23.400thinking, right? When I've got good numbers to share, I might brag. I'm definitely not going
00:29:27.400to court to try to keep something hidden. So I wonder what type of bad news numbers the CBC
00:29:33.880might be trying to hide. But what really grinds my gears is that they take more than a billion
00:29:39.120dollars from taxpayers a year, right? At the very least, they owe us transparency. But now they're
00:29:45.020spending tens of thousands of dollars going to court to keep taxpayers in the dark. Gross.
00:29:51.220We just know anecdotally, I mean, come on, who on earth is going to pay for streaming services
00:29:56.000from CBC? We all pay already. Those who like watching streaming services, you got your Netflix,
00:30:02.260you got Prime, you got Crave, all these different ones. You can only afford to pick so many a month.
00:30:06.340I just can't see too many saying, you know what, I'm just going to reach in my pocket
00:30:09.780for this company. I already pay one and a half billion a year to and toss in a little more to
00:30:14.820see that content those numbers have got to be dismal hey hey let me uh speaking of dismal numbers
00:30:20.240let's talk about the budget right the federal budget because hey we've got another great story
00:30:25.220that that we broke in western standard thanks guys for you know covering this taxpayer news
00:30:29.520uh so the finance minister right what's a key responsibility of a finance minister
00:30:33.780i don't know write and deliver their own budget speech well it turns out federal finance minister
00:30:39.560champagne uh spent 12 000 bucks on outside contractors uh to get a speech writer for his
00:30:46.220own budget speech right uh so not to mention right that taxpayers are already paying like a couple
00:30:52.700million dollars a year for the army of communications bureaucrats in the finance department but now
00:30:57.700we're also spending 12 grand to get some outside contractor to do their homework and you know cory
00:31:03.620what i like to say is um you know if winston churchill can find some time to write his own
00:31:09.060speeches while fighting the nazis i'm pretty sure champagne can find some time to write his own
00:31:13.980budget speech one last point here folks in the actual budget that champagne delivered the
00:31:20.760government said it would cut spending on consultants yet champagne spent 12 grand
00:31:25.460on an outside contract to get help writing his own budget speech it's embarrassing quite frankly
00:31:31.340well i mean yeah our own nigel hannaford used to be a speech writer for for prime minister harper
00:31:36.740but he was on staff for that and i bet you because i mean nigel is a gifted writer you know for the
00:31:42.260right price for probably a paltry six thousand he could have written a very good one for mr
00:31:47.180champagne i mean they didn't shop around very much i'd suspect hey i like nigel but let's not
00:31:51.940give any anyone more ideas to take taxpayers money you know what i'm saying oh i doubt he
00:31:57.140would go in for that he has principles that man all right well i appreciate the update laying out
00:32:02.540what's going on with carbon taxes and a couple of other beauties going on out in Ottawa since we
00:32:07.220lost you from Alberta here uh before I let you go back into that that fine mire that you work
00:32:12.760within out there uh how can people see your work and uh support you guys if they choose to well
00:32:18.660Corey man it's always a pleasure I love coming on your show folks the best place place to follow
00:32:23.280our stuff is just at our website taxpayer.com that's taxpayer.com follow us on social media
00:32:29.220type in canadian taxpayers federation follow me on x at franco underscore nomics but cory you're
00:32:34.500awesome man thanks for having me on the show great thanks franco it's always good and i really
00:32:38.680appreciate the work you guys do you give us great stuff to put copy on though it's usually
00:32:42.540unfortunately embarrassing expensive stories so thanks again i'm sure we'll talk again soon
00:32:47.380all right see everyone so check it out guys yes taxpayer.com all you think they break great stuff
00:32:53.680as you can see digging into those things and it's the small stuff that i think people realize i mean
00:32:58.160we go, everybody likes to talk about the $16 orange juice. The reason that was such a huge
00:33:02.320scandal is because that's something we can think about going to a restaurant, spending that much
00:33:07.180money, things like that. The billions are harder to register in our minds, those of us in the
00:33:12.140regular world. But when you look at then 17,000 for a speech, like, whoa, hang on. I mean,
00:33:19.900how many hours does it take even, you know, trying to write the best speech on earth and
00:33:25.640something as long and as big as a budget presentation. I mean, none should have spent,
00:33:29.980as Franco pointed out, we already pay an army of communications people. What the heck is their job
00:33:35.100if you're outsourcing it to somebody else out there to do it? But it's just absurdity. And it's
00:33:42.700good to see those sorts of things exposed and put into a language we can all understand so people
00:33:48.520realize that and at least try to hold these politicians accountable. And, you know, watch
00:33:53.860them for the awards they give and the bad spending because every province is bad for. We had a recent
00:33:57.740column in the Western Standard talk about Alberta has a spending problem too. Provincially, we've
00:34:02.640been bad. I mean, look, the easiest way for a politician to go ever is always to throw money
00:34:07.360at problems. That's the path of least resistance. Conservatives, Liberals, NDP, they're all prone
00:34:13.700to doing it. And we've got to stop asking them to do it. We got to get on their cases more when they
00:34:20.160do do it. And, uh, you know, that's where we dropped the ball a little bit ourselves. All
00:34:24.380right, let's look at some other stuff getting done. This was, you know, and I'll tie this
00:34:28.920into CBC when people, you know, pointing out, uh, CBC and some of the awful stuff they,
00:34:34.300they publish and things they're doing. The BBC in England, you know, which is the inspiration
00:34:39.500for the CBC and, uh, it's their, their tax funded, of course, uh, institution. And they
00:34:47.140put out a piece this weepy piece today about a man in afghanistan who's so poor this poor man
00:34:55.120he can't pay his bills can't pay his rent can't get his food it's just awful the conditions are
00:35:01.100terrible it showed it literally with a little tear in his eye because you know what he has to do
00:35:04.720he's selling his daughter he literally is selling a little girl and the bbc is pointing it out as
00:35:14.420if this is some sob story about a man so badly cornered that he's going to sell his little girls
00:35:20.520and it says in fact it's happening all over afghanistan that these men are selling their
00:35:24.800daughters um where do you start with this no other culture on earth sells their daughters
00:35:35.000we've seen famine we've seen uh issues going on all around the world countries that have had very
00:35:43.200very hard times and people who have had to do some terrible things to try and pay the bills.
00:35:50.220You know, but the Irish potato famine, do they sell their daughters into slavery, sex slavery?
00:35:56.100There's one of the questions that was put out to by somebody online. Of course, let's follow up
00:35:59.980BBC. What would he be selling his daughter towards? Do I be towards some pervert who wants a little
00:36:07.060girl because afghanistan is an islamic culture that has absolutely no concept of value to women1.00
00:36:13.540they see them as chattel they see them as property so this man rather than going out i mean most0.97
00:36:21.140parents would die before letting harm come to their children they would never
00:36:27.140consider selling them you notice he's not saying he's selling his sons by the way
00:36:31.700there's parents who have become desperate and did things in times of famine they're the ones
00:36:39.300perhaps in an awful situation that would prostitute themselves or do all sorts of
00:36:44.700things just so they could scrape together money to pay for their children i don't doubt things
00:36:48.580are tough in afghanistan you know why things are tough in afghanistan because it's run by0.99
00:36:53.840a medieval group of Islamic lunatics who keep them in the dark ages.1.00