Western Standard - Cory Morgan Show. Trudeau is directly responsible for the housing crisis

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 Good day. Welcome to the Corey Morgan Show. As the name would imply, I am indeed Corey Morgan. I'm going to bend your ear for the next hour and some. And as always, we've got lots to cover. This is our weekly show with the Western Standard covering news, talking to guests and hearing my general opinions and rantings on issues of the day. And there's always a lot of issues. It seems to get crazier by the day. I mean, the news is sometimes hard to even believe whether it's real or not. Fake news. You can see why the term has become popular.

00:01:00.200 popularized so much. But unfortunately, it seems the craziest of the news out there tends to be the true stuff. We'll cover a whole lot of that. I got a good guest coming in today. It's Jay Hill. He's the former House Leader for the Conservative Party of Canada.

00:01:12.440 Many, many years of experience in the House of Commons as a parliamentarian, as we do have a fall session coming up. We've got a lot of issues about to hit this fall with Justin Trudeau plummeting in the polls. We've got a housing crisis. We have all sorts of fantastic things going on.

00:01:31.280 And we'll see how things are looking going into that season and what we can look forward to, I guess, as that goes.

00:01:37.800 So for you guys tuning in live, hey, use that comment section. I see a few of you there, Northrun Grader and others. Absolutely. I love having that discussion going.

00:01:47.220 Send those comments and questions my way or my guests' way. We'll try and get to them. I don't necessarily read them all out, but I do see them all and I appreciate it.

00:01:53.380 Just keep things civil, guys. We don't have to be at each other's throats. We have Twitter for that.

00:01:58.580 So let me get on to what has got me going today. I've got my usual opinion on things. And we do have a serious problem building on us right now.

00:02:09.960 I mean, Canada, we need to have a serious discussion about our immigration levels. We have to have it fast. 1.00

00:02:16.100 And it's a subject that conservative politicians, they shy away from as they're going to inevitably be accused of racism.

00:02:21.760 And, of course, progressive politicians don't want to get into the issue because it's been such an effective wedge against the conservatives.

00:02:28.180 The politics have to stop, though, and reality has to set in.

00:02:31.960 Canada is heading into a socioeconomic crisis due to the current immigration policies.

00:02:37.200 A lack of affordable housing is hitting crisis levels across the country.

00:02:40.320 It's causing citizens and immigrants alike to suffer while politicians spin their wheels with discussions of everything from rent control to basement suites.

00:02:48.260 But they won't dare touch the immigration issue.

00:02:50.680 One provincial cabinet minister in Nova Scotia even hinted at encouraging people with spare rooms to take borders into your homes.

00:02:57.840 Now, few politicians have the courage to state what's become the obvious.

00:03:00.960 Canada needs to slam the brakes on immigration levels and hard. 1.00

00:03:04.680 I mean, to add insult to injury, a recent memo was leaked to Key and Bextie's counter signal online

00:03:10.160 that exposed that Prime Minister Trudeau was well aware of the crisis his immigration policies are fostering and he purposely chose to ignore it.

00:03:19.160 I mean, people have accepted that Trudeau is far from the sharpest Prime Minister the nation's ever had.

00:03:23.800 It was quite believable to think Justin truly didn't realize the damages his policies would cause. 0.98

00:03:28.140 Not that we should forgive Trudeau for his acts of idiocy, but it's worse when he actually knowingly causes the damage rather than ignorantly. 0.99

00:03:36.000 The numbers presented in the memo were chilling. 0.99

00:03:38.280 This is what Trudeau saw himself.

00:03:39.640 Things are bad and they're poised to become much worse.

00:03:42.200 Here's a quote direct from the report given directly to Trudeau and authored by Secretary of the Cabinet, Janice Charette.

00:03:48.700 Look at CMHC, which is the Mortgage and Housing Corporation, projects that the housing stock in Canada will grow approximately 2.3 units between 2021 and 2030.

00:03:59.100 When it incorporates economic factors alongside demographic factors, it projects an additional 3.5 million additional housing units are needed beyond the current projections to restore affordability.

00:04:11.660 Think of those numbers.

00:04:12.440 We're going to be short 3.5 million units within the next seven years if we maintain this immigration course. 0.99

00:04:19.880 And that memo states it outright.

00:04:21.100 Immigration is the thing that's causing the challenge. 1.00

00:04:23.740 It says the nation's going to need 665,000 new units a year to keep up with demand.

00:04:28.200 In 2021, only 223,000 were built.

00:04:31.520 You don't need to be a mathematician to see the looming catastrophe here.

00:04:34.940 So why is Trudeau so fixated, even when warned, on bringing in record numbers of immigrants when it's harming the nation so much? 1.00

00:04:42.100 Even when the memos are coming in?

00:04:43.860 Well, there's no sense beating around the bush here.

00:04:46.120 The reason Trudeau won't bend is because he's a self-serving narcissist who's using mass immigration to try and cover up his years of gross fiscal mismanagement.

00:04:54.620 Trudeau and his finance minister, Chrystia Freeland, have been crowing of late about how Canada is among the world leaders in GDP growth since the pandemic.

00:05:02.420 And yeah, that's true.

00:05:03.180 The reason, though, Canada is experiencing modest GDP growth, by the way, is because the massive numbers of immigrants have been brought into the country. 1.00

00:05:11.640 Immigrants bring resources and skills, and they do help spur the economy.

00:05:14.920 It gives the nation an injection of economic activity and bumps the overall GDP.

00:05:19.920 The problem is, though, the GDP per capita is falling.

00:05:24.320 See, while the nation as a whole is reporting growing economic numbers, citizens as individuals are becoming poorer.

00:05:30.120 The economic bump from immigration isn't enough to cover the spreading of the wealth among more people.

00:05:35.280 I mean, think of the examples this way.

00:05:36.500 Look at India. 0.95

00:05:37.340 Their economy and GDP have been growing for years, and good on them.

00:05:40.900 But the nation still has a long way to go to catch up to the Western world.

00:05:44.140 Their GDP is 3.2 trillion, compared to Canada's 1.98.

00:05:48.360 Gross GDP numbers don't reflect the nation's affluence, though, as well as per capita numbers do.

00:05:53.800 India's GDP per capita, for example, is $2,250.

00:05:58.100 Canada's GDP is $52,000.

00:06:01.080 Now, Canada's per capita GDP numbers are seriously lagging, though, compared to comparable countries.

00:06:05.780 Australia, over 60,000.

00:06:08.420 And the United States is at 71,000.

00:06:11.420 Ours is dropping.

00:06:12.460 With the abundance of resources in Canada, the low per capita GDP figures have to be due to poor governance.

00:06:18.640 Using mass immigration to cover for the government overspending is participating in essentially a Ponzi scheme.

00:06:24.620 Eventually, this house of cards is going to collapse, and while Canadians will suffer dearly, 0.98

00:06:28.640 Trudeau probably will have headed out to retire on a tropical island somewhere by then.

00:06:32.500 He doesn't care.

00:06:33.760 And as the leaked memo proves, he knows exactly what he's been doing.

00:06:37.320 Healthcare systems are strained.

00:06:39.340 Educational institutions are packed in housing.

00:06:41.200 Prices are going through the roof.

00:06:43.480 We probably can't avoid the looming economic crash due to the unchecked immigration numbers, 1.00

00:06:47.320 but we can still mitigate it.

00:06:49.120 And I'm not calling to bring immigration numbers to zero.

00:06:51.600 We need new citizens, and immigrants bring a plethora of benefits to the country.

00:06:56.580 But we can and must dramatically reduce those numbers right now until we can keep up with it.

00:07:01.200 The current numbers are unsustainable, and a housing crisis in a winter nation can be catastrophic.

00:07:06.240 Not to mention tensions are going to form between citizens and new Canadians, whether we like that or not.

00:07:10.340 It's not fair to either existing citizens or the new immigrants. 1.00

00:07:14.020 Political leaders need to find their courage and call this out.

00:07:16.540 And yes, they're going to be called racists and xenophobes by the usual suspects.

00:07:20.040 In the long run, though, they could be praised for mitigating the damage caused by a prime minister

00:07:23.960 whose sociopathy won't allow them to do the right thing for the nation.

00:07:27.040 And that's what's got me going today, guys.

00:07:29.780 I mean, the housing crisis, it's been topping political discussion in every level, municipal, provincial, and, of course, federal.

00:07:39.500 But nobody's pointing, well, some people are pointing to one of the biggest challenges with it.

00:07:45.660 I mean, we've got students coming in this year.

00:07:47.400 I was listening to that as I tortured myself with Legacy Talk Radio this morning.

00:07:51.260 800,000 foreign students coming into Canada this year.

00:07:55.140 Same sort of thing.

00:07:56.920 It helps the post-secondary institutions.

00:07:58.820 They charge a premium for the foreign students to come in and take those courses.

00:08:02.260 But the problem is, of course, that's 800,000 individuals that need to be housed.

00:08:07.140 That's 800,000 seats at the classroom, the lecture halls that are being taken up.

00:08:12.400 And we don't necessarily have the ability to keep up with that.

00:08:15.060 We're looking at the short-term economic gain, and in the long run, though, we're causing a very serious problem.

00:08:22.440 Plus, a lot of people are talking.

00:08:23.700 It's not just, again, existing, you know, citizens who are suffering because of this.

00:08:27.560 A real problem is a lot of those students, they're coming over, they're coming in for the school year.

00:08:31.340 They can't find somewhere to live.

00:08:33.520 I mean, they don't have local connections, networks.

00:08:35.900 It's not even like they can couch surf with friends.

00:08:38.120 This is a real problem.

00:08:40.080 But it's just so unforgivable to find out that Trudeau actually knew about it.

00:08:45.060 He was told, because everybody's been saying outright that the immigration levels don't cause the housing problem.

00:08:50.640 He knows it does.

00:08:52.640 And he didn't care.

00:08:54.280 Because, again, his ideology, his hopes for a legacy, something like that, put it beyond, you know, imposing any reality on it.

00:09:06.560 Let's see, you know, let's see what else we've got.

00:09:08.640 Looking at the Western Standard, I'm afraid Dave Naylor, our news editor, usually comes in at this time and gives us an update and everything else that's going on out there.

00:09:16.520 But he's not available today.

00:09:18.740 So you're stuck with me for the whole thing, at least until J.Hale gets in here.

00:09:21.980 But one of the great stories that's been sitting high up there on the Western Standard site there, westernstandard.news, is from Linda Slobodian.

00:09:29.240 She writes fantastic columns, very prolific on the Western Standard.

00:09:32.680 And saying, not enough soldiers to stand on guard for thee or anybody else.

00:09:35.880 This is another problem happening in Canada.

00:09:37.440 Canada, our armed forces, they're atrophying, they're shriveling.

00:09:42.740 We've been hearing about this for years.

00:09:44.260 And, again, same sort of thing.

00:09:45.560 The Prime Minister pays lip service to it.

00:09:47.160 He loves flying overseas and pretending Canada's a player with NATO or other large nations.

00:09:52.300 They don't take him seriously.

00:09:53.600 They don't take Canada seriously.

00:09:54.880 Part of it is we can't pull our weight when it comes to military spending.

00:09:58.600 We won't pull our weight when it comes to military spending.

00:10:01.680 So, yeah, we're at 34,000 people now in our complete military forces.

00:10:07.240 And it's expected to drop to 31,000.

00:10:09.780 Again, and this was warned by our retired Lieutenant Colonel David Redmond.

00:10:15.100 We've got a real problem as our forces continue to decline.

00:10:19.400 And, you know, it's not just for overseas peacekeeping, things like that.

00:10:21.720 We have seen with emergencies, fires, a lot of domestic needs, having a large, you know, armed forces or people on the ground.

00:10:28.700 It can be very, very good and, you know, beneficial for the country.

00:10:32.120 But we're letting that lag.

00:10:34.380 Again, this is the government, the nation of kicking the can down the road.

00:10:39.080 They just don't want to make hard decisions.

00:10:41.120 So these shouldn't even be hard decisions.

00:10:43.660 Nah, we'll just put that off.

00:10:44.820 We'll put that off.

00:10:45.380 We'll put that off.

00:10:45.860 It's going to be a big, big mess to clean up whenever the heck Trudeau's out of there.

00:10:51.280 Let's see.

00:10:52.080 Something else to talk about, of course, the Tamara Leach-Chris Barber trial.

00:10:56.760 That's been going on.

00:10:57.800 And so, you know, the full criminal trial started, I believe, yesterday in Ottawa and the courts there.

00:11:05.060 They're quibbling over whether it was an occupation or not.

00:11:08.340 It's going to be a little painful watching the defense and, you know, such going at each other.

00:11:14.000 I mean, basically, they're rehashing all of the discussions that we've heard over the last year,

00:11:19.320 particularly with the bail hearings when they were inexcusably holding, you know, Tamara Leach without bail,

00:11:25.060 as if she was really going to present a threat of forming another convoy to go out to Ottawa or something like that.

00:11:33.240 I don't think, as Cindy says, they're not going to get a fair trial.

00:11:36.200 I don't know.

00:11:38.340 You know, we'll see.

00:11:39.940 There's some justices that do take their jobs seriously, but it's hard to say.

00:11:43.100 I mean, there's definitely the government wants to make an example of them.

00:11:48.200 They want to crush them down.

00:11:49.520 We're seeing the weight of the law falling on people for organizing this peaceful protest, and it was.

00:11:53.720 It was problematic, you know, and it certainly caused a lot of ire and economic disruption and many things,

00:11:59.560 but it was peaceful compared to many, many protests that weren't of all sorts.

00:12:03.760 We've never seen such a prosecution of people for something like this.

00:12:08.340 And, no, Cindy, I doubt they will get a fair one because we know we've seen that recently as well,

00:12:13.940 that Trudeau, you know, the amount of judges who coincidentally were appointed by Trudeau

00:12:19.460 and happened to have donated to his political causes, there's quite an overlap going on in there.

00:12:25.580 So they want to keep Justin Trudeau happy.

00:12:27.460 The biggest crime the convoy committed was to embarrass Prime Minister Justin Trudeau,

00:12:32.900 the egotistical, vain little man Prime Minister we have.

00:12:37.380 And, of course, he looked to, you know, he doesn't even really care so much what Canadians think. 0.58

00:12:40.520 He wants to look good on the world scene.

00:12:42.540 And the world looked and saw a man who had lost control of his own country,

00:12:45.820 who invoked the Emergencies Act against his own citizens over a protest that probably could have been calmed

00:12:52.460 if he just had the wits, and that's a big ask of him, I understand that.

00:12:55.780 But still, to get out there and actually communicate with them at first,

00:12:58.860 or at least gain that high ground, get out there, talk to them, he wouldn't do it.

00:13:02.900 He wouldn't do it.

00:13:03.680 He dug his little heels in with his cute little socks and said,

00:13:06.340 no, let's invoke the Emergencies Act, just like my dad-dad did.

00:13:09.860 Because I think Justin wants to, he's got some big shoes to fill there with his father.

00:13:15.500 And that wasn't the right path to go to try and do so.

00:13:21.400 Let's see, Mr. Stonely commenter saying,

00:13:23.980 almost every problem Canada has is due to immigration. 1.00

00:13:26.080 See, that I disagree with.

00:13:27.860 You see, and that's where the discussion goes a little wrong somewhat too and everything.

00:13:31.020 The problem isn't immigration in itself.

00:13:33.720 It's unchecked immigration. 0.90

00:13:35.260 It's mass immigration.

00:13:36.920 We've got 500,000 people a year, and that's not including the students and temporary workers

00:13:40.620 and visas and things like that, coming in.

00:13:43.220 And we can't necessarily accommodate them.

00:13:44.600 But we still need immigrants coming in from all over the world, all sorts of countries.

00:13:48.040 And they bring in all sorts of skills, fantastic benefits for us in many, many ways.

00:13:53.160 So, I mean, it's not a black and white conversation, this one.

00:13:56.240 It's a matter, though, of responsibly having immigration, you know, looking at it with a plan, 0.98

00:14:02.000 making sure that you can integrate and accommodate, whether socially or economically or both,

00:14:09.160 when you're bringing people in.

00:14:10.940 And we are not doing that.

00:14:12.860 We are not doing that.

00:14:14.120 I was listening and it was, you know, a lot of Ukrainian refugees have been brought into Canada

00:14:18.780 and people have been putting them up and things such as that.

00:14:20.760 We're actually having some that have been seeing it.

00:14:23.020 They're leaving Alberta and going back to Ukraine because they can't afford the cost of living out here

00:14:31.200 and they're having difficulty settling in and getting established.

00:14:34.100 If you're going to bring in the refugees, great, but you've got to be able to accommodate them.

00:14:39.300 And that's what we don't do.

00:14:40.380 We social, you know, virtue signal.

00:14:42.100 I shouldn't say we so much, but I guess, you know, it's on our behalf.

00:14:45.000 And Trudeau loves doing that.

00:14:45.980 So he's going to be the world savior and offers to bring so many people in, which is great.

00:14:49.780 But if you can't properly house and accommodate them, then you're not doing them any favors,

00:14:55.240 nor anybody else around them.

00:14:57.040 Again, it's not saying go to zero, but we've got to reestablish, you know, what the heck is going on.

00:15:06.320 You know, what's going to be the proper levels to balance things with us right now.

00:15:10.480 As I said, it's a Ponzi scheme right now.

00:15:12.160 And it's for Trudeau's political benefit, not for the nation's benefit.

00:15:16.540 But, all right, but, you know, setting the federal stage a little bit before I get to my guest here,

00:15:21.680 who's just come in and been seated.

00:15:24.680 We got Jay Hill in, as I said earlier, was the conservative house leader for quite some years.

00:15:30.720 He was in politics in parliament for quite a while.

00:15:34.100 I don't want to fully date you there, but you're a little past 40.

00:15:37.520 And, yeah, I love it when you come in because you can add so much, you know,

00:15:40.980 experienced insight into the federal scene.

00:15:43.700 And we're coming into another political season this year that looks like a lively one.

00:15:48.100 Well, thanks, Corey.

00:15:49.120 It's always a pleasure to be on your program and exchange points of view with yourself

00:15:53.240 and obviously have a voice with the audience that you've attracted to your program.

00:16:01.500 Yeah, thanks.

00:16:01.900 So we've got what's obviously going to be a very heated session coming up.

00:16:06.700 I mean, they always are, but some can be worse than others.

00:16:09.200 And we've got a federal government that seems to finally be on the rocks, I guess you could say.

00:16:14.060 I mean, in the polls, they're really dipping terribly.

00:16:17.120 The prime minister has been trying a cabinet shuffle and other little things to see if he can't reset the clock.

00:16:21.420 And it doesn't seem to have worked.

00:16:24.300 What do you think, you know, I guess strategically, we can look forward to from the liberals

00:16:28.780 to try and reestablish themselves as this session hits.

00:16:31.220 I mean, they've got to really try and take control.

00:16:33.300 Well, they do.

00:16:35.040 And I don't see anything on the horizon, Corey.

00:16:38.320 I mean, we haven't heard of any new initiatives, any new government legislation.

00:16:43.080 It's a bit early because we're still a couple of weeks out of the reconvening of Parliament on the 18th.

00:16:48.800 So it's a little bit early to know exactly what legislation the government's going to be bringing forward

00:16:53.760 when the House of Commons starts sitting again.

00:16:57.060 But we haven't heard anything, you know, that would be sort of a piece of legislation,

00:17:04.100 perhaps a bit controversial, but certainly with widespread support that could shift the focus,

00:17:12.140 in particular the focus of the media, but also of the opposition parties,

00:17:15.840 away from a secession of scandal.

00:17:19.340 And as you were mentioning, just the immigration issue alone, just before I came on your program,

00:17:27.600 there are so many issues.

00:17:29.140 I was taking a look at it when I knew I was going to come on your show.

00:17:32.500 And it's going to be very difficult for the opposition to focus and narrow it down to, say, two or three issues

00:17:39.420 because there's so many that have been a minor crisis for Trudeau and his government.

00:17:47.500 And immigration is one. 0.91

00:17:48.860 I mean, because it's directly linked to the housing crisis, right, as you were saying,

00:17:56.140 is that why are we increasing immigration?

00:17:59.780 We should be decreasing it.

00:18:01.000 But why are we increasing immigration when there are two major problems for new immigrants?

00:18:07.680 One is to get some reasonably priced housing, if they can find any at all.

00:18:13.100 And the second one is the dismal state of our health care system.

00:18:16.220 You know, are they going to be able to get a doctor for themselves and their families?

00:18:21.140 And yet, Trudeau seems to be oblivious to this.

00:18:24.040 And that's just one of the crises that is facing this government.

00:18:27.420 So it'll be interesting to see what's the focus of question period in particular.

00:18:31.820 Yeah, well, and it's really like when you look at the polls right now, what people say is their top issue,

00:18:35.960 that the main one that's hitting everybody, it's cost of living.

00:18:38.320 And that kind of packs in food and housing, post-secondary education, you name it.

00:18:42.600 Everything's going through the roof.

00:18:43.640 Owning a car is expensive right now.

00:18:45.300 Everybody's worrying about that.

00:18:48.060 And there are a whole pile of things contributing to that rising cost of living,

00:18:51.880 whether it's interest rates being hiked, whether it's the immigration,

00:18:55.380 whether it's supply chain issues still from COVID.

00:18:59.300 I mean, all sorts of contributing things.

00:19:01.020 But the prime minister seems fixated on his ideological legacy,

00:19:05.580 that the climate change, the carbon tax, the...

00:19:08.300 I mean, I'm just...

00:19:10.320 My speculation is they need to make an ideological shift.

00:19:12.800 But is this a government that's capable of doing that?

00:19:14.840 Or is he just set in his ways now?

00:19:17.520 Well, I think you've really hit it right...

00:19:20.020 You know, the major issue right on the head here when you talk about it.

00:19:24.320 It really, truly is government by ideology.

00:19:27.780 I mean, I've never seen anything like this.

00:19:29.580 You haven't seen anything like this, Corey.

00:19:32.220 I would argue we've never had anything, a government that is so driven ideologically,

00:19:38.300 to impact every segment of the economy,

00:19:42.460 everything to do with people's everyday way of life.

00:19:46.260 And finally, it's starting to resonate even outside of Western Canada.

00:19:49.880 I mean, the West is always the first to really support the freedoms and our democracy.

00:19:57.200 But it's finally starting to sink in a little bit down in East, in Central Canada as well.

00:20:03.340 Now, whether this government can shift at all, I don't believe they can.

00:20:06.460 And they certainly haven't shown any sign of it for eight years.

00:20:10.660 We have to remember, he has been in office, he being Justin Trudeau, for eight long years now.

00:20:18.080 And it really boggles the mind that this guy could not only get elected with originally in a majority,

00:20:24.380 and then twice more with a minority, but effectively a majority because of the weakness of Jagmeet Singh.

00:20:30.060 There's going to be some major issues.

00:20:32.540 As you know, the trial of Chris Barber and Tamara Leash, that travesty of our justice system is underway right now.

00:20:41.220 And it's scheduled to complete roughly about the time when the House will start sitting.

00:20:46.840 And regardless of how the verdict goes for those two individuals, I think it's going to be incredibly damaging for the government because it's really going to point out the failure of this prime minister and this government to properly address the concerns of everyday Canadians.

00:21:04.640 Yeah, and it's just rehashing, I guess, another segment of that was an indication of a government in a panic, a government that had lost control of its own citizens and its own city for crying out loud.

00:21:15.900 And it's just nothing else that they need to distract themselves with as this session comes forward.

00:21:21.780 But as you pointed out as well, like the shift, I think that stands out the most when we're looking at polling anyways, it's not just one outlier.

00:21:29.660 It's been pretty consistent.

00:21:30.840 The liberals are in free fall right now.

00:21:32.340 We haven't seen anything like that since they got in the demographic breakdown.

00:21:36.140 I mean, so conservatives have typically been popular.

00:21:38.860 Most of them, folks like us, you know, gray in the hair, Westerners and into a little past 40.

00:21:45.220 But I mean, this isn't the growth of that demographic and support for the conservatives.

00:21:49.500 The youth are turning towards the conservatives.

00:21:51.520 Women who typically didn't support conservatives are turning towards conservatives.

00:21:55.380 Like that's showing more of a sea change, a shift in the mood of the nation that, again, I can't believe the liberals.

00:22:03.280 I mean, they're usually astute political players.

00:22:05.980 They can't seem to see this trouble coming on the horizon.

00:22:08.580 Yeah.

00:22:08.880 No, I agree completely.

00:22:10.860 It'll be interesting to see what the backroom boys are saying if it leaks out what they're saying to Trudeau as far as advice on that front.

00:22:19.780 Because as you say, their voting pool, as it were, is shrinking.

00:22:26.920 And so we'll have to see.

00:22:30.260 There was a great article in National Post, Corey, today about 12 conservatives, I believe it was, up and coming conservatives to watch.

00:22:38.980 And it shows the depth of the conservative party.

00:22:43.240 Because as you know, you and I have been around a long time with this political business.

00:22:49.140 It shows that despite the fact that governments are usually defeated, not elected, there is a wealth of depth to the existing conservative caucus.

00:22:58.960 And there's a lot of young people, as you say.

00:23:02.380 And I think that's a big reason.

00:23:04.120 Not only do they have a young leader in Pierre Poliev, but they have people like Shuv Majumdar that was just elected in Calgary Heritage with a massive mandate, I would argue.

00:23:16.760 And Shuv is that age, you know, around the 40.

00:23:19.540 He's got a lot of experience, but he's still, you know, compared to some of us, young.

00:23:24.400 And so there's a real wealth of experience there for Canadians to take a look at, so that they're not just voting out a corrupt, incompetent government, but they're going to elect some great people.

00:23:40.220 Yeah, and just to sidetrack, since you brought up Shuv, I've known Shuv a while.

00:23:43.100 I love the guy, and he's brilliant.

00:23:44.620 I mean, I'd really like to see a conservative government, if only to see him working within foreign affairs.

00:23:49.280 We're talking to somebody with talent, not Melanie Jolie or something like that, to actually start speaking on an intellectual level with foreign dignitaries, leaders, and things such as that.

00:23:59.100 Shuv's been on the show a number of times, and just, as you said, that sort of depth.

00:24:03.080 I mean, he wasn't elected as a political token by any means or anything.

00:24:07.860 He's a very smart guy who's going to do some good stuff if he gets the chance and gets out of the position.

00:24:12.740 Yeah, he isn't like some of the parties of the left that are just attracted to nominating candidates because they're a visible minority.

00:24:21.000 I mean, he is that, and proudly so.

00:24:23.820 But he was really nominated and elected, I would argue, on the depth of his experience, the way he's so articulate, the way he can explain in-depth policy in the way that an average Canadian can understand.

00:24:38.020 And if we had a cabinet made up of people like Shuv Majumder, instead of the disastrous group of people that Trudeau is attracted, we would see candidates start to revert from being the embarrassment that we've become and return to a cabinet of experienced and capable people like we had under Stephen Harper.

00:25:02.740 Well, yeah, Trudeau's backed himself into a corner.

00:25:06.860 I mean, if you're going to try and reinvent yourself through a cabinet shuffle and change things, fair enough, that happens in politics.

00:25:13.100 But you should be looking based on merit.

00:25:15.240 And he binds himself with, well, I'm going to make sure I check all those social gesturing off, and I've got to have half of them being women. 0.98

00:25:23.820 And it's not saying women aren't, you know, fantastic cabinet ministers at times, but if you have fewer of them in caucus than you do men, you have a smaller pool to draw from. 0.88

00:25:32.820 And he hasn't based his cabinet typically on merit.

00:25:36.700 He's done it just on filling boxes, and that won't help turn the tide right now.

00:25:40.460 Well, I think, you know, having been involved on the periphery with Stephen Harper, when he went through his cabinet selection process, I know it's a terribly, terribly difficult job.

00:25:52.200 But as you say, there is a balance between doing sort of what is socially acceptable, you know, the number of women, you have to have regional representation, you know, at least one cabinet minister from each of the 10 provinces, that type of thing.

00:26:06.360 But the underlying thing should always be competence, I think.

00:26:12.320 And certainly that has not been the case for eight years now.

00:26:15.820 And it's been eight long years because of it, and embarrassing years at the federal, international level.

00:26:21.960 Well, Trudeau's cabinet has been a reflection of himself as far as depth goes, and it's just not served Canada well.

00:26:28.560 So, I mean, certainly chomping at the bit, and you can tell it's already got a campaign feel to it, though we might very well probably be two years away from a campaign yet.

00:26:35.600 But Paulyev has, you know, been rebranding a bit himself.

00:26:38.460 The glasses are gone, you know, the shirt and tie is a little...

00:26:42.540 He's working out.

00:26:43.580 You can see the biceps and the pipes are showing.

00:26:47.380 And people called it fickle and so on.

00:26:49.540 But, you know, it seems to be resonating.

00:26:51.340 And that latest ad, I saw even some liberal commentators who said, gee, that was a really good ad because it was reaching out, wasn't condescending.

00:26:59.880 And he's reaching to, again, as he said, you know, the common people, the folks on the ground, the ones who are struggling to pay the bills.

00:27:06.340 He's saying, look, I hear you.

00:27:08.680 Let's do this.

00:27:09.440 I mean, that's the people that have to be won, not the elites in Toronto or, you know, the others that the ideologues have been targeting for so long.

00:27:16.160 And, again, I think this is where the liberals are dropping the ball.

00:27:19.220 And Paulyev's party is obviously...

00:27:21.740 As you said, Corey, the number one issue, we can never forget that, is the economy and how it affects people's wallets.

00:27:28.520 And people are struggling right now.

00:27:30.500 They're really struggling.

00:27:32.520 Families are making tough choices.

00:27:34.380 Kids are just going back to school.

00:27:35.700 Are they wearing hand-me-downs or can they actually afford a new set of clothes for little Johnny to go to grade one?

00:27:42.840 You know, these are tough choices.

00:27:45.420 And the cost of groceries, we talked about it the last time I was on your program.

00:27:49.320 It's only got worse.

00:27:50.840 Inflation is largely driven, in my belief, by continued government overspending.

00:27:56.640 This government has wasted billions upon billions upon billions of dollars, and they continue to.

00:28:02.060 And that drives up inflation, that type of wanton spending on the part of our government.

00:28:09.200 And yet they take no responsibility for the crisis they've committed.

00:28:14.400 Look at the growth in carbon tax.

00:28:16.360 You know, there's a growing awareness amongst all Canadians that we are not going to solve climate change if there is such a thing as man-made climate change.

00:28:27.520 We're not going to solve it by taxing ourselves.

00:28:30.580 We're heading into a winter season soon, unfortunately, in my opinion.

00:28:34.200 And people are going to have to turn up the thermostat.

00:28:37.740 How are they going to be able to afford to do that with the price of groceries? 0.97

00:28:41.580 And so these are the issues that I hope that Pierre continues to focus on because they're the issues that really matter.

00:28:48.140 That's it.

00:28:48.640 And I mean, I said it before on Twitter a little while back, though.

00:28:52.000 I think I used a couple of obscenities, as I do, prone to on Twitter.

00:28:55.220 But basically saying people don't care about climate change if they can't pay the rent or can't feed their kids.

00:29:00.840 Yeah, exactly.

00:29:01.680 Even the most liberal of Trudeau-loving individuals.

00:29:04.380 I mean, when you get your household priorities and you are still worried about climate change, fine.

00:29:08.660 And you still really love the liberals.

00:29:10.020 But boy, if you can't make the bills, you're going to reevaluate.

00:29:13.680 You have to.

00:29:14.180 We're getting into necessity.

00:29:15.420 If the chunk that not only the government through taxation, carbon tax is an example, is taking, is bigger and bigger of their take-home pay.

00:29:23.240 If the chunk the banks are taking through increased interest rates is bigger and bigger.

00:29:27.840 Those are going to be the things, rightfully so, that the average Canadian focuses on.

00:29:33.560 Yeah.

00:29:33.800 I mean, it's just everybody has to cope with these things.

00:29:36.840 What happened, Corey, you know, speaking about issues that need to be resurrected.

00:29:40.720 What happened to the investigation into the Chinese interference in our democracy?

00:29:47.620 Yes.

00:29:48.140 I wrote a note on it because I'd forgotten about it there.

00:29:50.640 And I wanted to hit on that.

00:29:52.540 So, I mean, like, where did that go?

00:29:54.620 Trudeau made another promise.

00:29:56.380 Well, you know, just wait, folks.

00:29:57.720 Just, you know, hold your horses.

00:29:59.440 We'll have a proper investigation.

00:30:00.960 The one thing I want to make sure I get in before I'm off the program, Corey, is this issue.

00:30:06.240 Because it ties directly with this bogus trial that Tamara and Chris are going through right now as we sit here.

00:30:17.380 What happened to the proper analysis of COVID and the steps that all governments took?

00:30:24.580 I've never found out.

00:30:26.060 I'm sure you've never found out.

00:30:27.360 It should be properly analyzed by now.

00:30:31.100 What worked and what didn't?

00:30:33.840 There's talk now about new strains, new variations of COVID.

00:30:38.200 And are we supposed to be worried?

00:30:39.720 Are we worried that governments will reenact lockdowns and restrictions and emergencies act and you name it?

00:30:47.780 Like, what did we learn as a nation about how, in my opinion, governments overreacted with the first round of the so-called pandemic, the COVID?

00:30:58.880 Because we could be facing it again, even as early as this winter.

00:31:03.180 And yet there's been no release of a public, you know, investigation of what was done and what worked.

00:31:13.280 Just an unvarnished one.

00:31:14.180 I mean, during the pandemic when things were happening, that's something I was screaming into the wind.

00:31:18.040 Like, we need to do a cost-benefit.

00:31:20.540 Like, there's a cost with every action of the government.

00:31:23.580 Is there a benefit?

00:31:24.500 If they could demonstrate somehow that, okay, you know, giving a vaccine passport to restaurants somehow inexplicably is going to save, if you could demonstrate it, it's going to save tens of thousands of lives, hundreds of thousands of lives, as they tried to claim.

00:31:38.740 I might start moving to that side, if it really was the bubonic plague or something going on like that.

00:31:44.060 But it comes at a cost.

00:31:45.340 They act as if it didn't.

00:31:46.500 You know, these restaurants lost customers.

00:31:48.900 These restaurants lost revenue.

00:31:50.980 They, you know, people weren't coming in.

00:31:53.680 And it has to be weighed. 0.96

00:31:54.880 I mean, that if it saves one life logic is one of the dumbest things you could ever hear from somebody, right?

00:31:59.360 But that's how we worked on it, basically.

00:32:00.980 If we could claim that we saved one life, we could claim the amount of freedom infringements.

00:32:05.700 It's beyond the pale.

00:32:06.860 So you're right.

00:32:07.240 I mean, a review, just to look back.

00:32:08.580 And no, there hasn't been a sign of that yet.

00:32:10.640 And I would think that there's a perfect opportunity.

00:32:12.860 As a former politician and serving longer in opposition than I did in government, twice I was tasked with organizing question period, first for the Reform Party and later for Prime Minister Harper.

00:32:28.040 And, you know, when I look at question period and what they should be focusing on, I would argue that the clear opposition, the Conservative Party, should be focusing on this.

00:32:38.580 Because they can tie it quite neatly into this trial that's going on, that's front and center, foremost in people's minds.

00:32:44.860 Okay, we're seeing this every day play out in the media about Tamara and Chris Barber.

00:32:51.300 So they can tie that in and say, okay, set aside the trial.

00:32:55.900 What have we learned about everything that unfolded during that COVID period?

00:33:03.440 And what are we going to do different if there's another round?

00:33:06.980 What are we going to do different next time?

00:33:08.640 Are we going to treat citizens the same way?

00:33:10.500 Because, you know, you're right, there is a cost.

00:33:13.080 We seldom talk about the cost of delayed surgeries, delayed cancer treatments.

00:33:18.300 How many people did we lose from that?

00:33:21.000 Because we were so worried about, you know, overpopulating our emergency departments in our hospitals,

00:33:30.640 our, you know, our emergency part of the hospital, that we cut off any surgeries that were necessary.

00:33:38.680 People died waiting, there's no doubt about it.

00:33:40.780 Yeah.

00:33:40.980 Or the social cost.

00:33:42.020 Children at the most influential of age, developmental, had their school disrupted for two years.

00:33:49.480 It was a mess.

00:33:50.160 And they were scared, they were in, they were out.

00:33:52.780 That's going to cost for generations.

00:33:54.860 Yeah.

00:33:55.060 And again, and the worst part with that one is we should examine, we got lucky.

00:33:59.260 And we weren't allowed to say it earlier, but there's truth to it.

00:34:01.540 Kids are immune from COVID.

00:34:02.700 I'm going to say it, they're immune from COVID.

00:34:04.660 I mean, we got lucky, you know, aside from some who were already ill or something, typically they did.

00:34:10.320 So, I mean, they were the ones we really never should have locked down.

00:34:13.600 Yet here we were closing playgrounds and arresting them for playing hockey.

00:34:16.360 So, in question period, shouldn't the opposition be demanding of the government to say, what is your plan?

00:34:26.060 What steps would you take if we're faced with another COVID epidemic, right?

00:34:31.900 I mean, is it just going to be focused on the old folks home and protecting the elderly?

00:34:36.960 Like a lot of us believed it should have been the first time around?

00:34:39.880 Or are you going to go beyond that?

00:34:42.260 Because we want to know, we demand to know what your plan is.

00:34:47.100 And we've never seen that.

00:34:48.900 We've never seen a proper analysis.

00:34:50.960 And so, how can you have a proper plan?

00:34:53.060 So, all we can end up assuming is they're going to respond the same way if it happens again.

00:34:56.800 And obviously, we should be able to respond a heck of a lot better no matter what side of it you're on.

00:35:01.620 Exactly.

00:35:01.940 The only way to do so is to sit down and say, okay, let's...

00:35:03.840 Like take partisan politics out of it.

00:35:05.600 Just as a big issue for the nation, we should be able to coalesce behind something that makes sense.

00:35:13.100 Well, we'll see what comes up in this session.

00:35:15.800 Again, there's no indications of the Liberals seem to want to turn.

00:35:19.860 So, Paulieff is going to have a lot to work with, I guess, if he wants to take control of the agenda.

00:35:25.400 And we'll see what happens.

00:35:27.620 Yeah.

00:35:27.820 Well, like I said at the start of the interview, the difficulty, speaking from somebody that has been there for many years,

00:35:35.600 the difficulty for the opposition and for Pierre is going to be to focus the public's attention on one or two or three perhaps issues when there's probably a dozen major issues out there.

00:35:48.420 Hopefully, it's things like, you know, demanding a COVID plan.

00:35:52.800 Hopefully, it's things like, you know, how are you going to properly address the growing crunch for everyday Canadian families when they're at the grocery store,

00:36:03.540 when they're trying to pay the bills, when they're trying to turn the thermostat up in the home,

00:36:07.240 the things that really matter to the standard of living of Canadians.

00:36:12.200 Hopefully, you know, they can zero in on some of those issues and remind Canadians,

00:36:17.780 constantly remind Canadians of the failures of Justin Trudeau.

00:36:22.040 Well, and along with that as well, the trap all positions can fall into when you smell the blood in the water.

00:36:26.320 Sometimes it's still being on them too much.

00:36:28.120 But don't forget, okay, but what are you going to do that's better?

00:36:30.880 You've got to put out the solutions as well.

00:36:32.640 Well, we might find out a little bit about that starting tomorrow because the Conservatives are having a policy convention down east.

00:36:42.560 And hopefully out of that, we'll see some indication of some new direction for the Conservatives worthy to form our next government.

00:36:51.080 Great. Well, let's hope that some good, reasonable minds come up with some solutions.

00:36:55.020 In the meantime, we'll just keep picking at it and telling them how it's done.

00:36:58.440 Well, there's a few that are more knowledgeable than you, Corey.

00:37:03.080 I like to think so.

00:37:04.640 All right. Thanks, Jay. I always love it when you come in.

00:37:07.260 Well, thank you very much for having me.

00:37:08.900 I know it was just the luck of the weather that you were available.

00:37:12.760 It was either be on a combine or be here with you.

00:37:15.580 So unfortunately, the combine's shut down.

00:37:18.120 Hopefully it dries up enough to get out there and get the combining done as well.

00:37:21.600 Thank you very much.

00:37:22.260 Thanks again, Jay. We'll talk again soon.

00:37:24.060 Okay.

00:37:25.560 All right. So that was Jay Hill.

00:37:27.360 I know you've seen Jay on the show a number of times.

00:37:29.320 Always, as we can see from the commenter, a great conversation it is.

00:37:32.280 I look forward to when Jay comes in and offers again.

00:37:35.860 This is a guy who's been on the benches, smacked against the wall in the political house a few times and seen what works and what doesn't.

00:37:41.820 We need more of that discussion.

00:37:43.260 That's why I wanted to end off with, you know, the discussion with pointing out it's easy to be critical and it's important to be.

00:37:50.440 But you also have to offer a solution.

00:37:54.140 So we'll see what comes out in the weekend because we've got a whole lot of problems.

00:37:58.380 And, yeah, you know something Jay brought up that I hadn't really thought of, but it's that there's so many issues.

00:38:04.000 There's so many things going on.

00:38:05.480 And if the Conservatives try to take on everything, it'll kind of get lost in the mix.

00:38:11.520 You know, it's like you want to pick three, four, maybe, and really hammer home on those.

00:38:15.880 We'll see.

00:38:16.600 Strategically, though, they seem to be doing very well right now.

00:38:19.240 The other question is, and we're seeing that asked more, is Trudeau going to resign?

00:38:24.380 I mean, for everybody looking at it, I think with common sense, and I predicted as much on, you know, Twitter and so much, but it's easy to predict.

00:38:32.540 Because if I'm wrong, I just won't mention it later, and if I'm right, I'll retweet it later and say, I told you so.

00:38:37.060 But I do think Trudeau is going to step back in the next few months.

00:38:40.440 I don't think he wants to, but where he doesn't know how to turn it around.

00:38:45.480 And people say he won't do it because he's so vain he'll stay to the end.

00:38:47.940 That's possible.

00:38:48.700 It's possible.

00:38:49.800 But he's also so vain. 0.99

00:38:50.920 Does he want to go out with the electoral foot on his butt when he loses the election dramatically? 0.96

00:38:55.680 Or will he just kind of retreat while he can and let somebody else try and clean up the mess he's made?

00:39:01.880 I still think, I mean, the pressure is going to come out.

00:39:04.640 There was a, you know, looking at legacy media, but Don Martin, he's been a commentator for a long, long time.

00:39:09.640 And he wrote a piece saying, you know, when's somebody going to take Justin aside for the talk?

00:39:13.420 You know, somebody who's going to candidly say, look, and it's time.

00:39:17.660 It's time to move along.

00:39:19.460 Because that's what I was saying to Jay as well.

00:39:21.180 Like, what does he see strategically that the government could do that would turn this around, turn the support around and make it happen?

00:39:28.520 And Justin tried a couple of things.

00:39:29.640 It didn't work.

00:39:30.560 It failed.

00:39:31.420 The only other thing the liberals can do, really, is change the leader.

00:39:36.700 Some people have said, I've kind of hinted as much, you know, on Twitter, but jokingly, stay in there, Justin, stay in.

00:39:41.960 Because, I mean, maybe they can get wiped right out of Kim Campbell style by the time the next election comes. 0.98

00:39:46.500 But the amount of damage that that hammerhead could do with two more years in there, I don't know.

00:39:51.720 I don't know.

00:39:52.520 I mean, sure, it would crush the Liberal Party.

00:39:54.240 But, boy, they could really crush the country in that two years leading up to it.

00:39:57.880 And if he comes to a point of no return, again, he's that vain.

00:40:00.580 It's as I talked about with the immigration thing.

00:40:02.100 I'm probably misquoting it, but there's an old statement about, you know, a true dictator, what, being willing to burn a nation to the ground to rule over the ashes.

00:40:10.460 And Trudeau might be vain enough to do that, not just stop carrying all together what happens.

00:40:15.520 And it's difficult to remove them.

00:40:18.080 Liberals don't rip out their own leaders like conservatives do. 0.95

00:40:21.320 They tend to be more drone-like.

00:40:22.940 They will follow. 0.86

00:40:23.760 They'll have their misgivings.

00:40:24.980 They'll grumble in the bars.

00:40:26.500 But eventually, they will quietly start ripping at them.

00:40:29.040 There's some with ambition.

00:40:31.260 Yeah, back to the trial.

00:40:32.540 Tamara and Chris, you know, we'll see what happens with that.

00:40:35.420 And I've been watching Twitter.

00:40:36.500 It's divided.

00:40:36.840 People are fighting the whole battle all over again because it's gone to the court.

00:40:40.520 I'm going to throw out my prediction here that I'll say I told you so if I'm right on it later.

00:40:44.680 Or, you know, we'll just forget about if I'm wrong.

00:40:46.760 I think what's going to happen by the end of this anyways, they're going to get convicted on at least a couple of the charges.

00:40:51.740 Maybe a few of them will be thrown out.

00:40:53.640 I think that the sentences will be suspended based on the amount of time they spent in custody already.

00:40:59.840 And perhaps a fine.

00:41:02.660 That's what I think is going to happen.

00:41:04.160 And probably nobody on either side is going to be satisfied with it.

00:41:08.140 There's people screaming for blood.

00:41:09.720 There's lunatics saying, you know, that a barber at least should be getting 10 years in jail.

00:41:14.220 And, you know, there's other people saying that they shouldn't get as much as a parking ticket.

00:41:18.960 Where it's going to land is somewhere in the middle.

00:41:21.540 And then, as I said, both sides are not going to be happy with it.

00:41:25.460 We'll see what happens, though.

00:41:27.080 And, you know, again, don't always realize this is surprising with judges.

00:41:31.880 Some of them take their role very, very seriously to try and be balanced.

00:41:36.680 And, you know, give as fair a ruling in something as they can.

00:41:40.380 Because, I mean, these guys aren't villains.

00:41:42.840 They aren't criminals.

00:41:43.420 They didn't lead.

00:41:44.680 I mean, some of the language, and it drives me bananas.

00:41:46.820 They didn't lead an insurrection.

00:41:48.480 A lot of people try to compare this.

00:41:50.500 And they're comparing because some of the sentencing's happening with the stuff that happened on January 6th in the States.

00:41:55.320 January 6th was different.

00:41:57.080 That really was.

00:41:57.800 People saying, we can storm the seats of government and turn over an election.

00:42:03.680 Most of the people in the crowds outside probably weren't even thinking that.

00:42:06.360 But those, there were many running.

00:42:07.520 That's what they were trying to do.

00:42:08.600 That is the definition of an insurrection.

00:42:10.540 It really is.

00:42:11.200 And I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of whether the election was fair or corrupted or not or whatever.

00:42:17.840 The bottom line is, when you've had an election and a group of people try to overturn it by force, that's an insurrection.

00:42:25.700 That never happened in Ottawa.

00:42:28.800 That never happened with the convoy.

00:42:30.200 That was never the intent of the convoy.

00:42:32.020 The only thing close was some goofy memorandum of understanding on a Facebook page.

00:42:37.920 I hope that comes up in the courts.

00:42:39.020 People say, look at this, they're talking about going to the governor general and turning over the prime minister.

00:42:43.240 Oh, yeah, that was realistic.

00:42:45.180 You know, why don't we get E.T. to come back home and fix things?

00:42:47.680 Guys, it wasn't going to happen.

00:42:48.980 It was some nut bar on Facebook who has absolutely no understanding of the government of Canada.

00:42:52.840 It had nothing to do with the convoy protests.

00:42:56.180 Aside from that weird little thing, nobody was trying to storm parliament.

00:43:00.740 Nobody was trying to tear the prime minister out of power.

00:43:03.480 Their demand, whether you want to see it as reasonable or not reasonable, was having the mandates end.

00:43:10.240 That's it.

00:43:11.600 It's a big demand.

00:43:12.480 It's a demand the government wasn't willing to back off on.

00:43:15.760 But there was no insurrection.

00:43:17.620 These guys are not the types of people that are looking to harm people.

00:43:22.940 Again, think of the time frame.

00:43:24.960 I mean, look at all the protests we've seen over all of our lives.

00:43:27.860 They usually end up with smashed windows, rioting, turned over cars, assaults.

00:43:33.620 None of that happened.

00:43:34.960 None of that happened.

00:43:35.660 The worst thing that happened was horns were honked that really annoyed the hell out of a lot of people in Ottawa for a while.

00:43:43.040 And, you know, again, you're going to have that discussion, but we can't call it an insurrection.

00:43:47.900 It was nothing like that.

00:43:49.200 And if it was, people would have been charged for it.

00:43:50.940 You know, that's the bottom line.

00:43:51.740 They're charged with mischief, mischief.

00:43:54.520 And that can come with some pretty heavy consequences, mischief.

00:43:57.340 Mischief is kind of a blanket charge that can range from everywhere, from a little bit of graffiti all the way to organizing a protest.

00:44:03.140 But part of what the judge has to look at as well, how much threat is that they're going to do it again?

00:44:08.000 How much risk is there?

00:44:10.300 And the irony is, if the judge cracked down and gave them five years in jail each, he will martyr them.

00:44:18.100 And that will increase the chances of larger future protests.

00:44:21.580 I'm not saying it should be a threat anyways or whatnot, but that's the reality of it.

00:44:25.700 If he cracks down hard.

00:44:27.000 And it won't prevent.

00:44:28.320 I mean, isn't that the goal to prevent?

00:44:30.260 I've seen no language, no attitude.

00:44:32.540 You know, Tamara's been on the show a number of times. 1.00

00:44:35.220 They're not, the mandates are gone.

00:44:36.800 They're not interested.

00:44:37.500 They're not chronic protesters like a lot of left-wingers are.

00:44:40.240 Or they just want to go home and get back to their lives.

00:44:42.460 It's over for now.

00:44:44.560 Bring back the mandates that could change.

00:44:46.260 I got a feeling it'd be a whole new crop of people leading the next protest and there will be another protest.

00:44:50.680 So it's like Jay said as well.

00:44:51.780 We need more confidence in this country that it's over.

00:44:55.780 Or that if it happens again, we do things more wisely in the future.

00:45:01.200 I mean, there could be a real pandemic in the future.

00:45:04.700 There could be another outbreak of the bubonic plague or Spanish flu or something that really is devastating us.

00:45:10.920 And look at the trust that's been broken between the government and the people.

00:45:13.460 People won't voluntarily lock down.

00:45:16.820 They won't put up with it nearly as easily in the future as they did last time because they realized the government deceived them.

00:45:23.040 The government overreacted and the government did a lot of terrible actions that didn't help make people safer whatsoever.

00:45:28.500 So if a real threat comes along, a real pandemic, people protesting these measures that might actually have helped us.

00:45:37.080 If there really was leprosy going around, maybe we would want to isolate people a little bit.

00:45:41.180 Nobody's got the trust now.

00:45:42.080 So maybe if we examine a little bit, as I said, do a bit of cost-benefit.

00:45:45.700 Look what happened.

00:45:46.480 See what was done right.

00:45:47.400 See what was done wrong.

00:45:48.560 People would feel a little more confident in the leadership if and when another catastrophe comes.

00:45:53.340 We'll see.

00:45:53.940 Okay, that's the time I got for today, guys.

00:45:57.280 There's a lot more stuff I want to talk about, but Jay and I went on along.

00:46:00.240 We covered a lot of stuff, and that's okay.

00:46:02.160 And we're going to cover more.

00:46:03.600 I'll be hosting the Pipeline, which is another Western Standard production that will be airing a little later as well.

00:46:08.720 Tune in for that.

00:46:09.580 We'll be discussing more of these issues, including the trial and some other things.

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Western Standard - September 06, 2023

Cory Morgan Show. Trudeau is directly responsible for the housing crisis

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