CORY MORGAN SHOW: Unions in Alberta have declared war on direct democracy
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Summary
In this episode of the Cory Morgan Show, I discuss the use of Recall legislation to recall elected officials in Alberta. Recall legislation is a great concept but setting the bar for initiating it is tough, especially when the bar is so high it could never be realistically used. However, recall legislation is not meant to be used every time an elected official goes off the rails, it s intended to be a legislation of last resort when a politician has gone so far off-the rails that they ve managed to upset enough of their constituents that there s just no other way to get rid of them but to recall them before the next election.
Transcript
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getting towards the end of november and winter finally bloody arrived you know i like to
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complain and piss and moan about all sorts of things and winter is one of them it's nothing
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that can be changed despite the climate change clowns claiming otherwise but it's still something
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i can't stand but whatever just got to get over it and deal with it so guys for those watching
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live i see wild rose there you know get in there use the comments sends questions my way comments
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if you're watching this on cowboy channel or rfd tv well this is recently recorded and you can
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come in if you like but we're not there anymore thanks for watching uh let's see we've got warren
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kinsella coming on in a little while he's going to talk about a book he's got upcoming it'll be
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an interesting conversation about more of the organized misinformation campaign going on with
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regards to that whole mess in the middle east and israel
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now let's see what else we got going on the agm i'll talk a little bit about that for those in
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alberta with the wild rose party wild rose holy cow i'm out of date united conservative party
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we change parties all the time one way or another try to be conservative and you know this ties into
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a bit of what i'm going to go on about right now and that's uh our recall act and citizens initiated
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referenda that sort of thing it's been a long road for albertans to get legislation for direct
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democracy allowing city assistance to initiate referenda and to recall elected officials
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get some history here guys in 1936 the social credit government at the time brought in recall
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legislation only to repeal it once it was used against their own leader in 2021 the ucp under
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jason canney brought in recall and referendum legislation to keep a promise but he purposely
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set the bar so high it could never be realistically used so early this year the ucp government under
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daniel smith amended the legislation to set realistic bars for initiatives now alberta's organized
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labor movements trying to blow the legislation up recall legislation for elected officials is a
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great concept but setting the bar for initiating it is tough i mean has to be high enough to avoid
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frivolous recalls but low enough to be accomplished if an elected official has managed to upset enough of
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their constituents that there's just no other way to get rid of them it is intended to be a legislation
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of last resort i mean if a person who's in elected positions gone so off far off the rails done
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something so terrible that most of their local constituents want them out of office before the next
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election at least recall becomes a choice if you want an example search dar hetherington it's a
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really interesting case from lethbridge a few years back because she stayed in as crazy as she was and
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those poor voters could not get rid of her it's not meant to be used every time an elected person
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votes away that local activists still care for however and that's what's happening right now so
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despite being offered a generous settlement alberta's teachers union was insisted on staying on strike
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while never clearly expressing their demands alberta's children were suffering due to lost classes and
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negotiations were in a stalemate so the ucp was forced to legislate the teachers back to work
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well alberta unions through their activist swings the alberta federation of labor and public interest
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alberta decided to push back on this for abusing the recall legislation they're initiating recall
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petitions against numerous ucp mlas and may eventually try it against them all most if not all of these
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petitions are going to fail and i'll explain why the union backed recall initiatives were inspired by
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disgraced former redford mla thomas lukasic's referendum petition he garnered over 400 000
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signatures quite a feat from people asking to hold a referendum about nothing lukasic's initiative was
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asking for albertans to spend the money and time to go to the polls to ask whether we want to keep
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things exactly how they are today it's a pointless question and amounts to a little more than a very
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expensive opinion poll lukasic thought he was scoring points by using the system this way but it might
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have backfired on because with the rephrasing of his proposed question he might have inadvertently
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initiated a separate separation referendum in alberta now referendum legislation's in place to
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allow albertans the chance to vote on issues when they become so important or contentious that it's
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best to put it to everybody rather than just legislators lukasic's initiative ignored the spirit
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of that that said it was an impressive feat to gather somebody's signatures well let's not pretend
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he didn't accomplish that without a great deal of help from alberta's unions uh when petitioning for a
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referendum the petitioners can come from anywhere in alberta and the signatories can be from anywhere
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in alberta that allow lukasic to focus in highly unionized areas and zones where discontent with the
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ucp was evident in the polls recall legislation's different with recall legislation not only must the
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people signing the petition live in the constituency of the person being targeted by the recall but
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everybody working on the campaign must live in the constituency as well it's supposed to be a local
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effort now petitioning appears to have been funded or operate operated by outside help the recall can
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be declared void petitioners must register with elections alberta nobody should be found without
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an id badge proving they are registered and local unions can't bust people or money into the targeted
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constituencies and some of the constituencies they're simply wasting time you've targeted alberta
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highwood for example conservatives always finish with a report around 70 or higher there and it's not
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going to be changing there's no way a recall campaign will succeed there and it amounts to
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nothing more than waste of time and basically harassment what these initiatives do accomplish
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though is overload elections alberta the head of elections alberta asked for 14 million to deal with
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this now we should have some questions about that too because that sounds rather high when you
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consider the gondec recall effort cost under hundred thousand dollars for the city of calgary to deal with
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but still these initiatives will be a pain in the ass for elections alberta to deal with even if they
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greatly exaggerated the cost of them it has to be up to citizens in the end guys that's what it's
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about so watch closely and report if you see a person petitioning in your area without an id badge
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don't sign petitions out of politeness this is serious business of course if you really think
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it's critical your mla must be recalled well it's your right to pursue it just stay within the rules
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your direct democracy can be great it works fantastically in switzerland but the process must be
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respected respected got to stand up and ensure unions don't kill the legislation as it's just getting
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out of the gate guys it's uh sad but one thing unions hate democracy and it shows all right
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well it's got me wound up today what else is happening out there we got our new senator dave
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nailer to turn us up today yeah you got a little i'm sorry it's too long i know holy cow
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eat the segment right up uh speaking of elections i hear you were one of the top issues at a recent
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election uh on the six second reserve yeah i've been getting word about that from a fellow who lives
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on there they're they're still quite upset with my trespassing uh case going on out there which now
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the next core hearing is in january sometime it's just going to go on and on and on uh but uh yeah
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the the chief uh on his reelection apparently uh has spoken on how he's going to crack down on fellows
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like that cory morgan guy and keep them from exposing whatever happened with the 1.2 billion
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dollars that they got recently exactly and where can people see your video again uh it's on youtube if
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you search out cory morgan and then i got a lot of videos i put on there so if you just kind of scroll
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through them you'll find one of them i think i called it a critical tour of the six second reserve or
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a prairie reserve something like that yeah it's a good watch i've seen it yeah and you're welcome
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for the plug i do appreciate it do you mind if i get on with the news now well sorry i don't mean to
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distract there we go let's start in all places hong kong uh where there's a real life towering
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inferno going on it's uh erupted involving like up to seven high-rise buildings uh saying 36 people
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dead already and hundreds up to 300 missing so it's a real terrible scenes uh there in hong kong
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uh the quebec government has introduced a bill to ban religious symbols and no more prayer rooms in
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universities and uh restrictions on uh halal food and that pesky little thing called the notwithstanding
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clause that's what they're going to use to uh to push it through yeah but it's a right when quebec does
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it whenever it does it we're our species exactly exactly uh the big celebration of light fireworks
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festival in vancouver is being cancelled uh hundreds of thousands of people go to that on a nightly
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basis but apparently uh they're out of money so uh vancouver is now the city that fun forgot well yeah
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people uh want to see it back reach into their pockets i guess there you go uh speaking of bc the
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one bc leader dallas brody introduced a bill into the legislature yesterday banning all pride flags and
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flags of all nations from bc public buildings uh kind of like what jeremy focus wants to do in calgary
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uh but that that didn't pass uh first reading uh melanie joly remember this big stelantis deal 15
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billion dollars from the liberals melanie joly the industry minister has been uh revealed she didn't
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even read the contract well could she i mean there'd be really isn't really yeah there'd be some big words
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in there but yeah i mean she's out out there defending the contract i mean 3 000 jobs gonna
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be lost now but she's out there defending the contract and she hasn't even read it yeah uh
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speaking of fake you remember that big uh press conference mark carney did in front of a
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look like a home that was under construction uh to announce the canada homes building project turns out
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that was uh all a scam fraud uh the home was fake it was just put up like the night before and right
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after the press conference was over it was taken down at a cost of 30 000 uh dollars and uh our
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energy expert dave winnick uh he's taking a look at the you know time's running out on venezuela and
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maduro and he's going one way or the other as trump says the the easy way or the hard way uh but when
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he goes that's going to be very bad news for alberta uh and the specifically the oil industry because all of
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venezuela's heavy oil will be flowing into those uh refineries in the southern states and alberta
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could be left on the outside looking in well it would seem one of the better ways to avoid that
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trouble would be if we got a pipeline to a coast somewhere and we can actually send it to another
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refinery i don't know if that's that's just radical thinking corey yeah i guess sorry it'll never happen
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because the uh the natives are using yeah well i'm going to talk a little bit about that later too
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but i'll admit you do it's a sad state of affairs and that sorry go ahead oh nothing are you all
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packed for edmonton well that's i was gonna mention yeah we're carpooling together we are are you
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bringing your swimsuit no no the world doesn't deserve to see that site uh okay i won't pack my
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borat mankini then oh well by all means don't let me stop you we're not bunking together so i don't know
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see it that's true all right look forward to it but yes you know as a reminder folks the ucp agm
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me on a beak dave that's yes oh yeah we're bringing the whole gang from uh the calgary
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headquarters so it'll be uh and we're are you you're going to talk about it too we're going to be
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hosting the biggest party in town yes as uh as always the uh hospitality suites i'll give people
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a little bit updates on ice agms work there's a lot of first-timers this last few years they're
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getting so big now exactly more than 3 000 people going to this one are they yeah and it was something
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five or six last year but still i mean three thousand in edmonton is something else in the
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middle of winter yeah all right well i appreciate the update i'll let you get back to the newsroom
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i know you gotta get a bunch of content up there before the weekend when you have to run off for
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this affair indeed it'll be a busy week right on all right thanks dave you bet cory all right yes that is
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our news editor this one i like to remind everybody the way we're paying for all of this and that's for
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yet come on guys get on there it's time all right yeah so you know let's talk about that agm
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things have really changed in alberta as far as involved politics go like agms even with the
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governing party you know when we're talking back in the progressive conservative days i think big
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ones were about 800 to a thousand people and that whole bar now is as i said five six thousand
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showing up in red deer three thousand showing up in edmonton next year's is in calgary and it's
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great to see people getting in and taking part but you know it's good to see people if they're going for
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their first time too if they haven't gone to one because they don't necessarily know what they're
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in for day one there's going to be a bit of speeches from some folks uh uh pursuing board
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positions that's one of the things you as a member will get to vote on pick who's going to
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sit on certain board positions in the party itself then that night that's where the western
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standard has their big thing uh at the expo center there will be a hospitality suite derek really
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blew the doors off it and red deer last year people get together it's just one big party
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there's often a fair amount of cheap or free liquor for those who do indulge and then i get
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to sit back and drink my diet coke and watch people over indulge but it's a good time part of it is the
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social network and getting together with people face to face chatting working on those things then
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the bleary-eyed hungover souls will get together on the saturday and sit through policy and constitutional
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debates which can be pretty rough but it needs to be done the other thing you know as people go to
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these agms you should keep in mind that it's still you're making your mark but the um the caucus
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isn't bound by your policy decisions you know if it's in the party policy that's great but
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caucus might vote otherwise later still it's the time for you as a member if you're a member of a
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party i'm not but to get in there and uh let them know how you feel the party should be going
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and what they should be doing when they're in there and it's your chance to meet some of the
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mlas and other movers and shakers so uh be sure to come to the western standard hospitality suite
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or wherever we are come say hi to dave and the rest of us we're going to be there for the weekend
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and chances are there'll be a drink or two for those as i said who do indulge it's going to be a
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lively one if nothing else so um let's see what else we were talking about yeah talking with uh
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indigenous rights getting stuff to the coast getting pipelines you know that keeps coming up
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tomorrow is supposed to be the the big announce announcement from premier smith and mark carney
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of a memorandum of understanding to potentially possibly maybe kind of sorta get a pipeline
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from alberta to the west coast and uh well it's kind of everybody's more into an i believe it when
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i'll see it sort of situation with that one see carney's talking out of both sides of his mouth i guess
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that's typical for a liberal i mean he's saying he's supportive of uh infrastructure he's saying he's
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supportive of making canada less dependent on the united states in the future yet he won't
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stand up and do his job as a prime minister and get these things done now this memorandum of
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understanding if it doesn't at least clarify whether or not indigenous people have a veto or
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david eb can stop this infrastructure i mean the consultation and respect in these negotiations is of
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course important but if they can't clarify that guys it's not getting through it's just spinning
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wheels and going through the motions either way i'll talk a little bit about that in uh more in
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a little while i see our guest in the lobby there i've been looking forward to this this is warren
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kinsella he's been a voice in canadian politics for a long time uh quite active back when the liberal
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party was a different sort of party uh i saw it as a respectable liberal party i was a conservative at
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the time but it was much different than what we look at today and he's been very outspoken on the
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misinformation coming out from uh well just the world in general when it comes to the israel
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conflict going on in the middle east and he's got a book coming up pretty soon called the hidden hand
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the information war and the rise of anti-semitic propaganda so let's bring him in and have a
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conversation on that hi uh warren thank you very much for joining us today thanks cory thanks for
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having me so uh i mean i i guess i'll just start with the obvious question you know what what inspired
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you to get this book in the works and and what do you feel really needs to be uh explained to people
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and exposed and in what really is a much bigger information war than a lot of people seem to
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realize well as you pointed out to um your audience just a moment ago you know my background i've worked
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in politics for many years when the liberal party was a liberal party and um worked for chretien and ran his
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war rooms so i know a little bit i think about um campaigns and how to how to spot one maybe that's
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one of the only things i i learned from politics is how to spot a campaign so that the third week of
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october 2023 after the terrible and horrific events of october 7th what i started to observe and this was
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quarry this was before even israel entered gaza began their ground incursion into gaza so before
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israel had done anything in respect of hamas um there were 2500 protests around the world using uh
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identical signage using a identical chance and language um very organized organizers who clearly knew what
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they were doing and it looked to me like a professional political campaign and i spoke to
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friends i have on both the left and the right and all of them had the same view and say absolutely this
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is a campaign so the the book i've written for random house called the hidden hand which you kindly
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pointed out is about that campaign i've got a documentary coming out about the same subject called
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the campaign and it's both of them are coming out in february and um the events of the past few days
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have you know reaffirmed my belief that this is absolutely not organic this is not a coincidence
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this is an organized global campaign against israel against jews and against western democracy
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and i guess something to cover with a lot of people we hear uh you know speaking up on social media
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and saying you know this isn't our problem this is over there this is israel we don't need to concern
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ourselves with it but this is spilling over here even if a person doesn't care and i mean i was
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mortified with what i saw when i went over there and mortified with what i saw before i went over
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there but we can't afford to ignore this this is infiltrating our colleges this is infiltrating our
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urban streets in canada the united states europe like this is a much broader thing than just
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where we're seeing the the worst of the war in israel absolutely absolutely you know the
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old cliche and like a lot of cliches is true first they come from the saturday people and then they
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come for the sunday people and i'm an irish catholic i'm a church-going catholic and but i'm a zionist
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because i believe that israel like taiwan like ukraine play a critical role in holding back the tide of
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autocrats and dictatorship and oppression around the world so to me strategically it's critically
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important that israel remains strong and remains a beacon of democracy in a seer sea of tyranny in the
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middle east but you know what's become evident since october 7th is um there has been a confluence of
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uh far left and marxist elements who are extreme and in some cases violent and also islamist uh jihadist
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pro-hamas elements and they've come together in a bit of an unholy alliance to destabilize and to
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delegitimize israel but also to destabilize western democracy i think a lot of people as you point out
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have lulled themselves into thinking oh it's just about the jews it's just about them i don't need to
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worry about it and that is not so that is not the case and what's become quite evident is that these
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people are organizing against all of us and it's incumbent upon all of us to stand shoulder to
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shoulder with our jewish brothers and sisters and protect them against what is a anti-semitic wave
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but also protect western democracy and our way of life well and that that thinly veiled anti-semitism
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you know i'd like to cloak the amount of hate even though it's so thinly veiled it's hard to hide but
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to use the word zionist as a substitute for jew a lot of people i think don't necessarily even
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understand what zionism sounds what it means i mean you know they've turned it into a term as if
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it's some sort of extreme position i mean at its very core the bottom line is do you support israel's
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right to exist if that's the case then to a degree you're a zionist and people have to understand the
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opponents in this case want israel wiped off the map they don't want a state to state solution they
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don't want to see actual peace they want nothing less than than the complete elimination of israel as
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an independent state and now you raise an important point you know let's examine that word zionist
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why am i a zionist um my daughter's indigenous my daughter is a citizen of the car cross target
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first nation in the yukon and i believe that she has an she and uh the other members of that that band
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have an inalienable right to the land that has been theirs you know for millennia um and she's
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indigenous to that place and i support her uh in that just as i support jews you know that that's
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what it means to be zionist it's believing the people who are indigenous to a certain place deserve
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to be indigenous to that place and you know what the far left and what these jihadist elements have
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done very successfully is equate zionism with racism and you know no less an authority than dr
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martha luther king pointed out because he was a zionist as well is when you're talking about
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anti-zionism you're really talking about racism when you say that you oppose zionism you're really an
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anti-semite and that's no less an authority than dr king so you know i think that people really need to
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look at what these terms mean it just simply means the jews have a homeland like everybody else does
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and they're entitled to this tiny tiny piece of the binel east um and and that they deserve to be
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able to defend themselves and you know that's all that it means to be a zionist so with this
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misinformation and it's impacting elected officials i mean this is a big battle going on i i watched a
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while back actually a documentary on the yom kippur war and it was funny how you could basically just
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change the dates and see the international reaction to israel defending itself was exactly the same
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within days of them being attacked israel defending itself and then the world all screaming you've got
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to stop you've got to stop you've got to stop uh how how do you counter that that's what you're
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working on that kind of getting to the soul of your book how do we counter the misinformation or
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counter the narrative that that's really so so broken right now with this issue well golda meir
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who was the original iron lady of politics who was uh the prime minister of israel at the time of the
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yom kippur war you know said most memorably i'm not quoting her exactly but you know it's much better to
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be a jew who is isolated and vilified than to be somebody who's dead and admired and you know i think that
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is both of us have been to israel on missions for the media and we've seen that that they they regret
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they are sad about the fact that so much of the world has turned against them for all kinds of
00:23:47.440
reasons that you and i can discuss but they are determined to survive and you know that is they're
00:23:54.480
right that that's enshrined in the the charter of the united nations no less is that a nation that is
00:24:00.400
under attack in the way that israel was on october 7th 2023 is entitled to defend themselves and you
00:24:07.680
know israel did not start that war the ceasefire that was in place was broken by hamas which is a
00:24:14.480
designated terrorist entity around the world they did that they killed 1200 men women children and babies
00:24:21.600
they kidnapped 251 people they sexually violated 200 israeli women and girls and they they injured
00:24:32.640
in some cases seriously grievously hundreds of other israelis and non-israelis on that day so israel
00:24:42.000
was entitled to respond to that in a measured way and i believe i'm not a military analyst but i believe
00:24:48.160
that they have responded in a measured and careful way uh against a urban warfare warfare is very
00:24:55.120
difficult as you know and i believe that israel has conducted itself with restraint and care yeah
00:25:02.000
and something that's very difficult in this both in the the war on the ground in israel and the war
00:25:07.280
i guess you could say in the airwaves with with communications which is what you're working on
00:25:12.320
because the enemy melds in with regular population whether it's on the ground in gaza
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or whether it's in universities or in mosques throughout canada we do understand that most
00:25:22.560
people muslim people in canada have no interest in taking up terrorist acts and things
00:25:27.760
such as that but some among them are supporting this we're seeing fundraising charitable groups and
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i'll put that in quotes things that are going over there uh which also gives well ammunition to
00:25:39.200
people who truly are very intolerant of everybody who's a darker than they prefer to see how you
00:25:44.800
carefully try to extract the extreme element from the moderates that exist i mean it's a very complicated
00:25:50.240
problem and the the you know the the constituencies that they um you raise an important point the
00:25:56.720
constituencies that they've been most successful with obviously uh unions uh so public unions uh not the
00:26:05.280
private ones uh academia um but most particularly the two demographics that they've been most successful
00:26:12.720
in getting over to this global anti-semitic anti-israel campaign has been young people uh gen z from about
00:26:22.400
18 to 24 and millennials from about the age of 25 to 38 and those two constituencies in canada in the united
00:26:31.920
states and in europe have been the target of this global propaganda campaign against jews and the jewish state
00:26:39.120
and the west and they've been very successful in bringing young people over to their side um really
00:26:46.720
by uh focusing on one theme you know for about 60 years the anti-defamation league of b'nai bryth has been
00:26:53.760
doing polling mainly in the united states but not exclusively and what it's the polling has always shown that if you
00:27:01.120
were concerned about racism you would also be concerned about anti-semitism and so they kind of moved on the
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same track and about five or six years ago what we started to see is um concern and sympathy about
00:27:19.440
anti-semitism started to go like that with young people so they still professed to be concerned about
00:27:26.560
racism but on anti-semitism they started to articulate points of view that were frankly horrifying for
00:27:34.960
example 41 of young canadians state that they support hamas around the same figures state that they don't care
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if jews either in israel or in canada are attacked for being jewish and so when i've done focus groups for our
00:27:55.680
documentary we've done and also for the book that i've written lay head in hand and you know i've
00:28:01.280
said to these kids like some of the things you're saying and doing are anti-semitic don't you don't
00:28:08.560
you see that and they'll say to you cory well no i'm not being anti-semitic i'm being opposed to racism
00:28:15.360
i'm fighting racism they truly believe and those of us been to israel you know just shake our heads
00:28:22.080
when we hear this they truly believe that israel is a fascist white supremacist apartheid state in the
00:28:29.200
way that apartheid south africa once was and you know those of us who have been there know you have
00:28:35.280
black kids are in the idf and women in positions of authority and and arabs in the knesset in the
00:28:41.440
judiciary and the idf and muslims as well but the the bad guys with this propaganda campaign
00:28:49.600
have been most successful for one reason they have depicted israel as an apartheid white supremacist
00:28:56.720
state when it is not it is not but that's what's convinced so many of these young people to come out
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and do what they say is opposing racism yeah and it just astounds me because so many young people today
00:29:09.120
are very socially liberal uh one of the things that was most striking to me one night in tel aviv was
00:29:14.240
going out and people were out and having a good time and there was a couple of men getting quite
00:29:17.920
affectionate with each other on a bench and good for them i almost would want to take a picture but
00:29:22.080
that'd be quite a violation of privacy but that's the last bastion the only bastion of that sort of
00:29:28.160
freedom in the entire middle east like maybe if some of our north american young people would
00:29:32.000
understand it if you want to protect some rights that that's a a spot that really needs it it's the
00:29:37.520
only liberal democracy out there but it seems to be lost on them but this is the problem this is the
00:29:42.640
problem they because if you dig down into the data why do they think so you know south africa and israel
00:29:50.560
are the same thing why do they think that they're not being anti-semitic it's because of this if you
00:29:56.880
look at the data in canada in the united states and in europe young people so gen z and millennials
00:30:03.680
are not receiving information from magazines like yours or newspapers like mine they're receiving it from
00:30:10.560
online sources and that's where the bad guys have gone that's where this pro-hamas anti-israel
00:30:16.880
anti-semitic campaign has gone is they like cory they absolutely dominate online for every pro-israel
00:30:26.000
message that's out there qualitatively quantitatively rather there's about 90 messages opposing that we
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are those of us who support israel and support the jewish people are being absolutely massacred
00:30:41.360
online and frankly some of it we're to blame for we've allowed this to happen we've not been fighting
00:30:48.080
back and the bad guys backed by money from qatar and as you pointed out a minute ago from these far-left
00:30:56.080
ngos and non-profits and charities there's this real alphabet soup of menace that's out there they
00:31:05.120
are financing this online effort where on tick tock on x on meta on all of the platforms we are getting
00:31:13.280
absolutely massacred and israel has you know even though israel is the most technologically advanced
00:31:18.400
nation in the world in many respects israel has been terrible about telling its own story you know you
00:31:24.320
saw a young gay couple in in tel aviv i've seen the same thing and i had the same reaction is you know
00:31:30.320
we're both canadian guys and israel going geez i got to show this to the world and the question you
00:31:35.760
got to ask yourself is why isn't israel showing this to the world and so you know part of the the war
00:31:43.440
that we're in here and this is going to go on for some time is israel needs to a better job of telling
00:31:49.120
its story and not just rely on guys like you and me no true enough and uh hopefully they can start
00:31:55.200
moving in that direction well the time's gone quickly it's just so much it can be covered in it
00:31:58.800
i'm really looking forward to your documentary and your book before i let you go where can people
00:32:02.800
pre-order and where are they going to find these when they come out the book is called the hidden
00:32:06.720
hands published by random house and you can get it indigo and chapters and all of that it's on my
00:32:11.920
social media if you want to click there and the documentary uh we are i'm not allowed to say which
00:32:17.520
film festival is going to be releasing it but it'll be in europe and also in the month of february
00:32:23.280
so both the documentary called the campaign and the book called the hidden hand will be out and
00:32:27.760
available in february but you can pre-order the book now excellent well thank you for your work on
00:32:33.040
that and for coming on to talk about it today and well just for being a few of us pushing back
00:32:36.960
against what you've identified properly as an actual organized information campaign going on i mean
00:32:41.840
if we don't push back they will win my pleasure thanks so much for having me on right thank you
00:32:47.520
so yes guys check it out one more time you know you can pre-order and that helps with these things
00:32:51.920
when a book is coming out it is the hidden hand the information war and the rise of anti-semitic
00:32:57.440
propaganda and warren kinsella and uh this uh it really was eye-opening as i said when i'm over there i i i
00:33:06.160
still can't wrap my head around a lot of it i mean again israel's imperfect i understand that but uh it's uh
00:33:14.560
if you're looking to be uh civilized if you're looking at democracy if you're looking at freedoms
00:33:19.760
if you're looking at rights they are a world ahead of every country that surrounds them and i look at
00:33:25.920
these far left it's the usual ones protesting for trans rights and this and that and everything
00:33:32.400
yet they support wiping out the one and only little spot in the whole middle east
00:33:37.600
that provides the rights to minorities and people uh that they claim to support uh as warren said then
00:33:45.520
that that's really the result of a very effective information campaign and you know what i i wanted
00:33:51.440
to talk more because this campaign's been going on well before october 7th it's just that really brought
00:33:56.480
it to a head and what is interesting as he said was look how quickly the anti-israel protests sprung up
00:34:03.440
after october 7th i mean a lot of people are making the excuse to say well it's because of
00:34:07.840
israel's heavy-handed response guys within two weeks they were still barely responding yet to the
00:34:12.720
terror attack they were just warming up yet the protests were already out there screaming and
00:34:17.360
yelling and demanding death to israel and that israel stand down and israel surrender and israel just
00:34:22.240
leave their hostages in the hands of those monsters i don't understand it uh if you're on social
00:34:28.800
media and you need to look at those things and i gotta admit i've seen less and less because i'm on x
00:34:32.400
you know that's one of the prominent areas i communicate on online and i would put things
00:34:37.440
up anything even pro-israel and oh i get the barrage of people going bananas on me and uh the
00:34:44.000
interesting thing is how many and i block like crazy because i i don't have time for them i mean
00:34:48.320
you know it's hard what's them i guess operate uncountered i don't know but i can't have them
00:34:52.480
polluting my discussion all the time but the amount that have a little hammer and sickle in their
00:34:57.840
profile they really do we're not even talking about the guys who say oh i just support marxism the
00:35:02.000
classic idea of communism that sort of thing not the actual messed up evil social uh or soviet system
00:35:08.160
no they are supporting even the soviet system these are hardcore extremists and they're tied in as warren
00:35:14.800
said with anti-western that's what's got to be clear clarified in this i mean the ones in qatar
00:35:22.320
the ones funding this the extreme is limits they just want to disrupt they want to see this spread
00:35:29.120
uh you know i put a video on my own channel recently just of stuff that i saw when i was over
00:35:35.280
at the nova festival site and things like that what i also wanted to point out to people was just that
00:35:38.560
clearly all of the stuff the kibbutz in the nova music festival all that stuff they targeted none of
00:35:44.400
it was military like this isn't a regular war they didn't go after military bases they didn't go after
00:35:49.440
military members they targeted the most vulnerable citizens they could and they did the most horrific
00:35:55.760
things they possibly could do to them they did you know murder the children rape the women as warren
00:36:00.800
was pointing out and and and launch thousands of rockets into residential areas but why i mean
00:36:06.960
they aren't completely stupid they're crazy they're extreme they're murderous but they aren't stupid
00:36:11.040
what did they have in mind the reality is they wanted to make a larger war they were hoping that israel's
00:36:19.280
response would be harsh enough that suddenly saudi egypt jordan syria all the rest would jump in and
00:36:26.800
finally come in and eliminate israel from the world and it's uh not not gonna happen there's something
00:36:35.040
some people got to realize too israel's not going anywhere not leaving get over it and i know there's
00:36:39.360
some right-wing lunatics conspiracy theorists and anti-jewish nut bars and some of them follow my
00:36:45.120
stuff and they comment in it but they're just a loud minority as are the islamists it's funny
00:36:53.520
with uh what was it a great uh uh what is that babylon b i believe it was but it showed a you
00:37:00.880
know a cartoon and it's satire of course but it was a story saying you know uh neo-nazi and uh you know
00:37:08.080
pro-palestine person get together and can't find anything to argue about they really are just opposite
00:37:13.760
sides of the same coin but they do have an outsized influence on social media they do have a large
00:37:21.120
voice uh as as warren said israel sort of let him take over the narrative and it's got to be pushed
00:37:27.840
back by them not just us this is my perspective uh pointing out they screamed death to canada and
00:37:33.040
the usa too yes yes that's part of the point that you know we kind of started this out don't think
00:37:37.840
they're gonna stop there if israel was gone do you think those guys are gonna stop no they hate the
00:37:45.440
western world they're insane they're extreme they're they're islamist nutcases how do we deal
00:37:52.240
with that i don't know but we can't pretend it's problem that only impacts things over there it will
00:38:00.560
come over here it already is and it's in our universities and such and it's it's it's uh frightening
00:38:07.360
now you know we're gonna see some interesting stuff we'll go a little more broad though with
00:38:10.640
quebec of course uh they're expanding you know dave mentioned that their secularism law and they're
00:38:16.080
gonna use the uh and notwithstanding yet again and uh you know this is interesting i'm kind of mixed on
00:38:23.760
it right but it's only in public areas like publicly owned okay not uh out in general and so on but
00:38:30.400
they're gonna ban prayer rooms and public institutions and colleges and universities they're gonna ban
00:38:35.600
full face coverings like the niqab now see this is hard right because if people have rights and even
00:38:42.080
if let's face it forcing a woman to dress all in black with a little eye slit there and live like that
00:38:49.440
is vile it's disgusting it's it's it's it's a thousand year old crap it's medieval but if a woman
00:39:00.480
willingly does so she has the right to do it where's the government's role in telling somebody
00:39:05.120
what they can wear what they can't you see that's hard and the woman of course she's gonna say oh
00:39:09.360
i'm willing well you know why because they'll beat the hell out of her if she takes it off
00:39:13.680
we have honor killings that happen in north america with extremists
00:39:17.520
and quebec isn't stopping uh women to be covered up in bed sheets and all that crap you know that
00:39:22.720
primitive junk that they do uh with islam uh in general but they're doing it in their own
00:39:28.320
institutions government-owned institutions universities colleges saying you know what
00:39:32.080
you want to practice that extreme stuff you're not doing it on government property or on the
00:39:35.040
government payroll uh the islamists are gonna be upset with that things i'll give to quebec quebec
00:39:42.720
doesn't beat around the bush quebec drives us nuts quite often as as westerners that's for sure but
00:39:48.000
you know what they just say we're gonna do this and what are you gonna do about it and alberta really
00:39:52.720
us to be doing a lot more of that themselves ourselves and uh it's uh gonna be quite something
00:40:00.960
to see their response to that but the funny thing is the canadian double standard too you you can bet
00:40:04.720
they're not going to talk about repealing the notwithstanding clause when quebec uses it for
00:40:08.000
its what umpteenth time but boy they sure all go bananas when alberta does right but speaking of
00:40:13.520
double standard hypocrisy it's funny watching david eby going bananas right so he's saying absolutely
00:40:18.400
there's no way a pipeline is ever coming through bc to the coast not another one nope but he's
00:40:22.560
also having a temper tantrum that's the best way to put it watch this guy's press conferences he's
00:40:26.560
like a six-year-old a big he's tall too you know six foot something so it's like a giant overgrown
00:40:31.440
six-year-old but he's furious because saskatchewan is going to be exporting its potash which is a huge
00:40:38.400
resource from western canada through a shipping terminal in washington well yeah we've got a premier
00:40:45.920
on the west coast who fights every bit of a resource development coming from his east side
00:40:50.080
why would he be shocked he'd be shocked when provinces start bypassing him and getting back
00:40:56.800
to authority see canada is supposed to be a federation and uh you know uh here's a commenter
00:41:05.440
maverro saying uh you know i think carney's relying on eb to get in the way well that's fine but we got
00:41:10.640
to hold carney's feet to the fire then because if we are a federation that's the point of the whole
00:41:18.000
thing right it's an agreement a contract the constitution it means there has to be some degree
00:41:25.360
of centralized authority on some things one of which is interprovincial infrastructure
00:41:32.400
a province can't block a highway can't block a railroad and can't block a pipeline that's federal
00:41:39.600
jurisdiction because if you can't have the federal government say that's just the way it goes it's
00:41:45.520
going through then you aren't a federation anymore so carney grow some testes and be a prime minister
00:41:54.880
and lay down the law and say this thing is getting done or well we know the option i want to see
00:42:02.400
it's independence time you know we're looking at a referendum coming up one way or another
00:42:07.920
and if we are blockaded still with mealy mouth weasel words from carney and gang
00:42:14.000
then what's the point of staying you know people say you'd be landlocked we already are
00:42:20.880
have a look uh you know dj darkrobe commenter again saying alberto never get a pipeline under
00:42:26.880
the current federation well yeah probably not so let's change the deal and then if we're out of
00:42:34.320
the federation you want to know how fast you get the pipeline because then you say you know what
00:42:38.880
we're gonna put a very uh oppressive border crossing with bc with your products coming
00:42:44.960
across us to the rest of canada or the united states through that rail line and through those roads
00:42:48.960
there so let's talk and i don't think we'd have to talk too long because we would realize that we have
00:42:55.840
to allow each other's goods to get back and forth across our jurisdictions to get things done we
00:43:00.640
would do what the federal government's refusing to do but it's not going to happen overnight uh eight
00:43:06.800
six because yeah some other people saying you know smith needs to jump on independence and i am with this
00:43:10.720
commenter it's not smith's job to jump on the independence bandwagon if we split the vote we get
00:43:13.920
mayor ninchi we need to support her okay so yes no i'm kind of in a way i think it's alberton's job to
00:43:20.720
get on the independence bandwagon yes fully smith's no she wasn't elected on that
00:43:26.160
and it is too divisive a subject for her to take on as a premier her job is to give us the mechanism
00:43:33.600
give us the referendum leave it to albertans let's have that discussion for a year let's have an
00:43:38.320
independence campaign let's have the campaign going on while these negotiations go on as to whether or
00:43:45.920
not we're allowed to actually be a federation or not but yeah that's one of the things i wanted to
00:43:49.840
warn people if you're going to the agm in edmonton and you're frustrated i know i am i'm not a member but
00:43:54.640
i'm frustrated with the thing is the way they sit don't try and turn the ucp into a independence
00:43:59.200
party independence parties fail they always fail look at albertus history i know i literally led
00:44:04.880
an independence party into an election and lots of them uh you know have failed uh no i don't answer
00:44:14.000
conspiracy theory questions guys so uh you can spare that in the comment scroll either way it's going to
00:44:18.560
be an interesting weekend it's going to be interesting tomorrow because i do have a word
00:44:23.120
from a pretty reliable source within the government that yes the memorandum of understanding that
00:44:27.280
they're going to be parroting and talking about and patting each other in the back doesn't have
00:44:30.800
anything saying that permission from bc and the indigenous uh bands is going to be required to get
00:44:36.320
this pipeline through because it isn't constitutionally it isn't the supreme court has clarified that many a
00:44:41.200
time it's not so why is carney getting up in the house commons and saying or his mps saying that they
00:44:49.360
do need bc and the indigenous well again one way or the other guys but that mou it's not worth the paper
00:44:56.080
it's written on if it's dependent on a premier from another province or indigenous bands that are come on
00:45:02.640
they're a mess and you're never going to get 100 out of them why don't they clean up cowichan first and
00:45:07.440
then they can get back to us about what we're allowed to and not allowed to do all right well
00:45:11.040
that's my time for today guys thank you very much for tuning in if you're going to be the agm like
00:45:14.880
i said come by say hi i look forward to meeting you and uh if not well you know watch things online
00:45:21.520
be sure to share this of course the social media links and check out the uh pipeline that'll be coming
00:45:27.040
on a little later tonight and the rest of the stuff coming out of the western standard
00:45:31.040
thank you very much and we will talk about things i'll break down the agm next week on that show