Western Standard - Cory Morgan Show. Where are the bodies？

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00:00:30.000 Good day. Welcome to the Corey Morgan Show. I am, of course, Corey Morgan. This is the weekly show on the Western Standard. I'll cover some news issues. I'll do some ranting. I'll talk to some guests. All that good stuff. I see some of the regulars checking in. Gary Paradox, see Mr. Stonely all present. Yes, use that comment scroll, guys. This being live means we can interact. I mean, I won't necessarily read every comment out, but I see them all there and it helps the conversation and keeps things rolling. So by all means, use it.

00:00:59.820 Including you there, Scott, even if you are from up in Fort Mac. So just always a reminder on that. Oh, keep things civil. We don't have to get on each other's cases. We can debate without getting too out of hand. You know, if you really want to go nuts, go on Twitter. That's what it's for. Then you can just block each other eventually.

00:01:16.940 All right. So I got a good show lined up today. We've got a Colin Craig. He's been on before. He's with secondstreet.org. And they've got some interesting kind of one good news piece on health care that they've put out and one that's pretty concerning on health care.

00:01:30.760 We're going to talk about those things, though, because, of course, health care is always top of mind for citizens every election. It just seems it's the biggest issue everybody has when they're pulled until somebody proposes changing anything.

00:01:42.480 And then they all curl up and say, no, we got to keep it how it is. All right. Well, we should start things off with my usual rant. I'll tell you what's got me wound up today.

00:01:51.600 So, well, where do I start? Well, I know where I have to start. One of two things has happened on the site of the former Indian residential school in Kamloops, B.C.

00:02:02.880 So either we have one of the most horrific mass murders of children in history that has occurred there, or it's one of the most socially damaging hoaxes we've ever seen in modern memory or modern history.

00:02:14.860 In either case, it's critical that excavations are carried out to confirm just what happened.

00:02:21.360 It's been over two years since over 200 sites considered to be possible child's graves were identified with ground penetrating radar, also known as GPR.

00:02:32.180 But no further investigation into the matter appears to have been done.

00:02:36.200 Could you imagine the outrage if we never excavated and investigated at the Picton Farm site when it was discovered that murders had taken place there?

00:02:43.180 The allegations at the Kamloops school site are more horrific and involved several orders, more victims than Picton's acts.

00:02:51.100 Yet there's been no forensic follow-up.

00:02:54.180 When the GPR anomalies at the school site were publicly reported in 2021, it rocked the nation and made international headlines.

00:03:01.560 We had protests erupting across the country. Over 70 churches have been burned to the ground.

00:03:06.520 Canadian flags were kept at half-mast for over six months, and a new national holiday was created to address the tragedy.

00:03:13.180 Not to mention, of course, the government floodgates of spending and chronic apologies opened right up.

00:03:18.820 Yet no further investigation was done.

00:03:22.080 Now, of course, people are starting to speak up.

00:03:24.360 They're saying, well, wait, what happened?

00:03:26.760 Questions are being asked, and why shouldn't they be?

00:03:29.480 Stories claimed that 200 children were killed and secretly buried in an apple orchard in the 1950s and 60s.

00:03:38.780 The perpetrators in that case might still be alive and on the loose.

00:03:41.960 Also, shouldn't we be trying to identify these victims so the remains can be repatriated to their families?

00:03:47.260 In response to the questions that people are starting to ask now, the government, though, is responding by saying it might illegalize the questions.

00:03:54.060 An independent special interlocutor on unmarked graves has asked the Justice Department to illegalize what they're calling residential school denialism.

00:04:05.120 And Justice Minister David Labetti has said he's open to the idea.

00:04:09.020 The person assigned to dealing with the alleged graves appears to be more concerned with shutting down discourse than actually dealing with what's happened with these graves.

00:04:16.520 Now, of course, they're using the term denialism purposely to try and draw a parallel to Holocaust deniers.

00:04:24.720 There's several reasons, though, we can't compare the questioning of the lack of investigation into alleged graves with people who question the actual existence of the Holocaust.

00:04:34.620 I mean, to begin with, there were records tracking the horrific mass murder carried out during the Holocaust. 0.57

00:04:39.920 The Nazis were actually horrifically meticulous record keepers when it came to that. 0.70

00:04:46.460 It was known who entered those camps and who was killed.

00:04:49.860 Now, residential schools kept record as well.

00:04:52.240 The schools needed to do so if only to ensure they got their government transfers per child.

00:04:57.380 Deaths were recorded, but there's no records of over 200 children dying and being buried in Kamloops.

00:05:03.120 The Holocaust also had witnesses in the millions, actually, from the Allied forces and Russian liberators who showed up in the camps to local citizens in the areas of the camps to the survivors of the camps to the camp guards.

00:05:16.120 The atrocities committed were well witnessed and corroborated.

00:05:20.500 Now, all their stories have been made of children being hung from hooks and thrown into the furnace at the Kamloops school and things such as that.

00:05:27.980 Claims that children were taken out in the night and forced to dig graves to bury their compatriots.

00:05:32.220 But there's no corroborating witnesses to these acts.

00:05:36.260 The Holocaust left millions of families seeking lost loved ones for decades.

00:05:42.000 But there's no records of any families claiming to have had children disappear at the Kamloops residential school site.

00:05:48.260 So where did these kids come from?

00:05:49.760 And where were their families?

00:05:50.820 Where are their families?

00:05:52.520 Most importantly, encountering deniers, the Holocaust had bodies, millions of them,

00:05:58.380 from pits filled with charred bones and ash to mass graves to literal piles of bodies found by liberators.

00:06:06.160 At the Kamloops site, to date, not a single body has been recovered.

00:06:10.400 The count is zero.

00:06:12.680 GPR is an effective tool for finding ground disturbances, but it can't distinguish between what could be a grave or what could be an old outhouse pit.

00:06:20.240 But excavations must be done.

00:06:23.100 And this was stated even as part of the original report on the GPR anomalies found at the Kamloops site.

00:06:28.660 At a different site, six months after the Kamloops anomalies were discovered,

00:06:32.480 a GPR survey was carried out on the site of a former hospital in Edmonton,

00:06:36.360 where it was alleged that indigenous victims of ill treatment were buried.

00:06:40.800 The GPR identified 34 anomalies thought to be graves.

00:06:43.720 Yes, everybody was rending and losing it there.

00:06:47.120 Oh my god, here we go, it's even more.

00:06:49.560 So with the supervision of indigenous elders, the anomalies were all carefully excavated over the course of several days.

00:06:56.120 But no human remains were found.

00:06:57.780 Not a bit.

00:06:59.440 It's not unreasonable or hateful to ask questions about something as important as the possible mass murder of children.

00:07:06.620 Demanding an investigation of these alleged crimes actually is the opposite of denialism.

00:07:11.080 It's outrageous we've allowed the nation to be turned upside down over the GPR anomalies

00:07:15.620 while refusing to investigate further.

00:07:18.060 There are some very valid reasons to question what may or may not have happened in the old apple orchard in Kamloops.

00:07:24.760 Illegalizing questions won't make them stop.

00:07:26.580 It's only going to convince people something's being covered up.

00:07:29.220 If we want to end what's being called denialism, we need to start digging.

00:07:33.200 Show us the bodies.

00:07:34.520 Then we can get on with trying to find the killers and giving closure to the families.

00:07:39.160 Well, that's what's got me going now, guys.

00:07:40.540 I mean, it's just, it's insane.

00:07:41.480 I mean, they talk out of both sides and sides of their wealth, you know.

00:07:45.120 Well, we've had a mass murder.

00:07:46.280 We've had one of these horrific things that happened.

00:07:48.100 But no, no, no, we can't investigate further.

00:07:50.080 Well, no, it doesn't work that way.

00:07:51.920 We do have to investigate.

00:07:53.500 We've got to find out just what the heck happened there.

00:07:56.020 But apparently pretty soon it's going to be illegal to even ask for that.

00:07:59.280 And that's very, very troubling.

00:08:01.760 All right.

00:08:02.360 Let's get into the newsroom and talk to our news editor, Dave Naylor, and see what else is going on out there.

00:08:06.820 Hey, Dave, how you doing?

00:08:07.400 Good morning or afternoon, I guess, Corey.

00:08:10.480 You know what?

00:08:11.060 I'm kind of surprised you showed up for work today.

00:08:13.900 Oh, how so?

00:08:15.040 Well, Greta Thunberg has predicted today will be doomsday.

00:08:20.120 I figured you and Jane would spend the last day, you know, letting your bees free and other stuff out in produce.

00:08:26.980 Jeez, if I'd have known, I probably would have scheduled the day that way.

00:08:30.020 I missed marking that on my calendar, I guess.

00:08:32.440 Yeah, we had a story up yesterday.

00:08:34.400 Five years ago, she predicted the world would end today.

00:08:37.640 So it looks, you know, I'm just looking out the window now.

00:08:40.080 And, you know, there's a few hours left in the day.

00:08:42.580 But I think she might be wrong, Corey.

00:08:45.520 Well, we'll see.

00:08:48.580 Yeah, we'll see. 1.00

00:08:49.900 Anyways, enough about that little idiot. 1.00

00:08:52.900 You know, the Internet is full of filth. 1.00

00:08:56.160 Corey, nobody knows that more than you.

00:08:57.860 But I came across something the other day that that shocked me to my very core.

00:09:03.980 Oi.

00:09:04.660 What the hell is that?

00:09:07.240 That is my old, yeah, private school pictures from Sharligan Lake School.

00:09:13.420 Wow.

00:09:14.600 The things you find on the Internet, eh?

00:09:16.860 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:09:17.880 Well, I was a bit of a pain in the ass kid. 0.98

00:09:20.000 So my parents outsourced it and sent me to an all boys school to have them, you know, contract discipline. 0.99

00:09:25.280 It was effective when my marks went up.

00:09:27.360 There you go.

00:09:28.260 Everything works out in the end.

00:09:30.400 Lots of news to tell you about, Corey.

00:09:32.280 Obviously, we're all gripped as the entire world is on the rescue efforts off the coast of Newfoundland

00:09:39.180 for the miniature submersible that lost touch on Sunday as it made its way four kilometers to the bottom of the floor.

00:09:47.660 There's now five ships in the area and two remote operated vehicles that are searching underwater.

00:09:56.920 As well, a Canadian search and rescue aircraft has heard repeated bangings, what sound like bangings coming from the ocean.

00:10:07.020 U.S. Coast Guard officials were very, very careful today to say that they really don't know what those bangs could be.

00:10:13.460 But, you know, they're running out of hope, Corey.

00:10:16.280 They got less than 20 hours of air left.

00:10:19.180 And as of this moment, if they're sitting on the bottom of the ocean floor, there's really not a rescue vehicle there that has the capability to retrieve them.

00:10:28.920 So, you know, we're keeping an eye on that one for you.

00:10:32.180 Other stuff, our columnist Michael Wagner is looking at whether or not Ottawa would even let Alberta leave the country if that's the way things go.

00:10:44.400 And I know that's a topic close to your heart.

00:10:48.140 Bud Light sales continue to plummet.

00:10:49.980 They were down 26% in the last week alone.

00:10:53.680 And this is ironic coming as in the worldwide marketing convention.

00:10:59.480 I think it's in France somewhere.

00:11:01.240 Bud Light won.

00:11:02.720 Creative marketer of the year.

00:11:04.440 So, wow, you can tank an entire company and still be rewarded for it.

00:11:10.220 We've got video up of Lethbridge MP Thomas talking about how Bill C-18 will undermine journalism in the country.

00:11:19.680 And Ty Northcott is on trial up in Red Deer today for holding his No More Lockdowns rodeo all those years ago.

00:11:28.480 And you remember, Corey, that the health authorities at that time were not pleased and arrested and charged he and his wife after that rodeo.

00:11:38.280 So, we've got lots of other stuff now.

00:11:40.280 So, stuff coming this afternoon, our energy reporter, Sean Polzer, is looking at a troubling report today that says Russian hackers are looking to cripple the Alberta energy industry.

00:11:53.760 So, he's on top of that.

00:11:55.560 And, of course, we'll keep up to the minute on the search for this, Corey.

00:11:59.860 And fingers crossed it goes well.

00:12:02.680 Great.

00:12:02.960 Yes, if we don't have enough from Ottawa attacking our energy industry, we need Russian hackers coming after it now.

00:12:08.220 It's just one thing after another.

00:12:10.480 Exactly.

00:12:11.020 I can't catch a break.

00:12:12.600 All right.

00:12:13.100 Well, lots on the go as always.

00:12:14.740 I'll let you get back at it.

00:12:16.280 And thanks for the update, Dave.

00:12:17.840 Thank you, Corey.

00:12:18.920 All right.

00:12:19.460 That is our news editor, Dave Naylor.

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00:12:51.220 So, yes, plenty of news going on over there.

00:12:53.540 That's a submarine submersible thing. 0.93

00:12:55.480 I mean, it's just the stuff of nightmares, right?

00:12:57.760 You know, you don't know if they're still down there hammering on the side of that thing

00:13:01.780 in terror or if perhaps they've passed or whatever.

00:13:05.340 I just, you know, there's thrill-seeking and there's adventures, but you really want

00:13:11.200 to pick some of your adventures a little more carefully.

00:13:13.200 It sounds more and more news is coming out about that thing, too, that for all the money

00:13:16.920 that went into it, this whole affair of getting down there was kind of half-assed with what

00:13:21.840 they built and put together.

00:13:23.580 I mean, clearly at this point, it wasn't 100% reliable.

00:13:26.580 Either way, I mean, still, you don't wish passing on anybody.

00:13:31.500 There's still some time.

00:13:32.560 You never know.

00:13:33.200 We'll hope for the best that maybe this thing will be located and these people can be saved.

00:13:39.520 I don't know.

00:13:40.500 But it's just, you know, could you imagine?

00:13:42.240 You know, I think that's part of why it's gripping the world, too.

00:13:45.120 I mean, everybody envisioning.

00:13:45.980 If you ever want to think about claustrophobia and such, I mean, just imagining being in that

00:13:51.260 circumstance is just, I guess, it's chills through the spine.

00:13:55.860 All right.

00:13:56.440 Let's see.

00:13:56.940 I'll get to my guest pretty quickly here, but I'm going to talk first, maybe just something

00:14:00.060 to kick a little away from the submarine issue.

00:14:02.300 Talk about people who live in comfort.

00:14:04.000 And that would be our prime minister.

00:14:05.900 You know, the king of the $6,000 a night hotel room during the Queen's funeral.

00:14:09.980 Well, he hasn't learned from it.

00:14:10.960 Well, maybe it doesn't matter.

00:14:12.460 He seems to be as popular as ever.

00:14:14.040 So what should he learn about it?

00:14:15.600 But I guess there was a two-day trip to an anti-poverty summit.

00:14:19.480 The irony is just drips from these guys.

00:14:22.900 And on anti-poverty summit in New York City, the prime minister went there.

00:14:27.000 It's very important because he really knows about ground-level poverty, I tell you.

00:14:30.520 And they rang up $61,000 in hotel bills.

00:14:35.300 In two days, Justin Trudeau and his little entourage, well, obviously not little, to tell

00:14:41.060 everybody about how to battle poverty, managed to run up $61,000, just hotel bills.

00:14:47.340 We're not talking about the rest of the bills for his travel and everything else.

00:14:51.480 He's completely indifferent.

00:14:53.020 He really is.

00:14:53.760 You know, he's in another world.

00:14:55.600 But again, his support numbers seem as high as ever.

00:14:58.180 So I don't know what it takes.

00:15:00.600 I mean, I don't expect the prime minister to travel somewhere and stay in a super eight.

00:15:05.200 I understand that.

00:15:06.920 But I mean, do they have even a little, I'm certain over the course of two days, they could

00:15:10.800 have come in at a little less than $61,000 in hotel bills for really, what was it, him

00:15:15.800 just showing up to give a 20-minute speech at one point or something? 0.88

00:15:19.100 This is ridiculous.

00:15:21.080 But these stories keep coming up between him and our governor general and the rest of them 0.92

00:15:25.640 in that world of Ottawa.

00:15:26.800 I don't know.

00:15:27.800 They're just outside of reality.

00:15:29.800 Okay, let's get on and talk to Colin Craig of secondstreet.org.

00:15:34.100 He's been on before.

00:15:35.060 And there's some new stuff, a couple of items on the healthcare file we can talk about.

00:15:39.740 Hey, Colin, how are you doing?

00:15:41.040 Good.

00:15:41.360 How are you, Corey?

00:15:42.760 Pretty good.

00:15:43.520 Pretty good.

00:15:44.300 Yes.

00:15:44.700 Just running through all the things.

00:15:46.380 You know, I rant, I rave, I let the veins get going on my head, but it's actually, I'm

00:15:50.260 quite happy in my own little way.

00:15:52.080 Well, you got a lot to work with these days.

00:15:54.160 There's a lot happening in the news, isn't there?

00:15:56.020 Oh, boy.

00:15:56.680 I mean, I'd almost have to expand the length of the show, but it would, that minute would

00:16:00.800 be too much for me.

00:16:03.380 I guess I just wanted to, there's a couple of things you guys put out recently.

00:16:07.280 I'll start briefly on one that's a little bit older, because I mean, it's kind of a

00:16:10.540 positive and a negative story you guys got going on.

00:16:12.520 There was some progress on wait times and waiting lists that actually was getting a little

00:16:18.620 better in healthcare.

00:16:19.880 That's unusual to see these days.

00:16:22.220 Can you expand a bit on that?

00:16:23.880 Yeah.

00:16:24.180 And I was just trying to pull up the numbers here so I've got them and can refer to them.

00:16:28.040 But everyone knows that since COVID arrived in Canada, waiting lists got worse.

00:16:33.820 The backlog of number of people waiting for surgery, diagnostic scans to see a specialist,

00:16:39.560 it got worse too.

00:16:40.400 And so last year we launched a website called CanadaWeights.ca, where we've been asking governments

00:16:48.280 regularly for data on how many people are waiting for surgery to see a specialist, to

00:16:53.920 receive a diagnostic scan and so forth.

00:16:56.160 And we've been tracking that over time, asking governments periodically what their numbers

00:17:01.020 are.

00:17:01.660 And it's not the easiest exercise.

00:17:03.800 I mean, you would think intuitively they would all want to know and have these figures

00:17:06.720 at their fingertips, but it's not always the case.

00:17:11.240 And what we've actually found is from January of this year to May, there was a positive reduction

00:17:17.120 in the number of people waiting for a diagnostic scan.

00:17:20.340 It dropped by close to 300,000 cases.

00:17:24.400 When it comes to surgery, there was a slight drop there, about 13,000 cases in the number

00:17:31.440 of people waiting.

00:17:32.680 And then to see a specialist, we saw an increase there.

00:17:35.240 Part of it was due to getting some information from a province that we didn't have data from

00:17:40.220 before.

00:17:41.560 But on the whole, we're seeing, you know, some positive signs.

00:17:45.120 I think that this crisis that we have in healthcare is going to persist for a long time still, though.

00:17:50.580 Yeah.

00:17:51.040 Well, I just want to start with at least a little bit of a positive note, you know, and segue

00:17:54.800 into your more recent just released out there, which is where you found that, because I mean,

00:18:00.760 one of the things that we're going to deal with waiting lists, we're going to deal with waiting

00:18:02.940 times, we know we need more healthcare professionals.

00:18:04.960 There's a labor shortage all over the place.

00:18:07.920 And you found that almost 10,000 healthcare professionals are licensed to work down in

00:18:14.920 the United States now.

00:18:15.800 Yeah, and a big asterisk beside that figure is that that's only border states.

00:18:23.460 So if you think about all the states along the Canada-US border, so Washington State, Montana,

00:18:29.780 North Dakota, New York, Pennsylvania, and so forth.

00:18:33.640 Michigan rather, those jurisdictions, we contacted them because they will issue licenses for nurses

00:18:42.980 and doctors.

00:18:43.580 And we asked for data, how many of these are Canadian?

00:18:47.320 And what they were able to share with us are cases where the mailing address for these

00:18:51.380 individuals is a Canadian address.

00:18:53.640 So it's a lowball figure, because if you, let's say you grew up in Ontario, and you moved,

00:19:02.020 you're a nurse, and you've been working in their system for 20 years, and you moved to

00:19:05.920 the United States 10 years ago, well, you're still really, you know, a Canadian, you just 0.97

00:19:10.040 happened to have moved, and now your mailing address is a US address.

00:19:13.340 So all those types of cases wouldn't be captured.

00:19:17.280 And obviously, we wouldn't have data for cases like California and Texas and Florida and other

00:19:22.280 states where they might be seen as a desirable location for Canadians to move to.

00:19:27.580 But yeah, 10,000 issued by border states, a huge number coming from Ontario, which isn't

00:19:33.900 too surprising, given that you have a large population in Windsor, and then also in the

00:19:38.380 sort of St. Catherine's, Niagara Falls area, where they're close to Buffalo, and obviously

00:19:45.300 Windsor's across the river there from Detroit.

00:19:47.400 So lots of cases of these workers commuting, so they live in Canada, they work in the US.

00:19:54.700 And other, in other cases, these workers indicated to us in a survey that they're not working

00:20:00.620 there yet, but they're planning to.

00:20:02.500 So there's an opportunity here for government run hospitals, they look to fill our labor shortage

00:20:09.100 to try and recruit some of these workers who are working in the states, but then also

00:20:14.200 to try to prevent them from leaving.

00:20:17.200 So that's what the government can do.

00:20:18.480 The positive thing that we're seeing in Canada more and more is that governments are hiring

00:20:22.140 private clinics to provide health care services to the public.

00:20:27.360 And so there's an opportunity for these private clinics to offer these workers the types of work

00:20:33.160 arrangements, whether it's compensation or working conditions or the scheduling, whatever,

00:20:38.060 that they're looking for, that maybe the government has been too slow and inflexible and unwilling

00:20:44.060 to provide to these workers.

00:20:45.480 So there's an opportunity there for these private clinics to maybe recruit some of these workers

00:20:49.620 and ultimately lead to an increase in health care staff in Canada.

00:20:54.180 Yeah, good, because that's what I wanted to ask further on it.

00:20:57.280 I mean, did you find out a bit of what is driving people to decide to cross the border to work,

00:21:02.180 whether it's daytime commuters or a full-out planning on emigration, it's still a bit of 0.96

00:21:08.040 a pain in the butt. 0.96

00:21:08.700 That's a fair drive. 0.99

00:21:09.980 It's crossing customs every day.

00:21:11.340 So, I mean, you've really got to either not like what the opportunities are on your side

00:21:15.760 of the border, or they've got to be offering something very good on the other side to make

00:21:19.480 it worth your while to do this.

00:21:21.580 Yeah.

00:21:21.840 So in one of the states, we were able to get really good data for contact information for

00:21:28.280 these workers, and that was Michigan, we were able to actually get email addresses for the

00:21:32.100 nurses.

00:21:33.200 And so we emailed them a survey and we said, ask them a number of questions, one of which

00:21:36.800 is, why did you decide to work in the US?

00:21:39.360 And intuitively, I think a lot of people would think, okay, well, they're going across for 0.91

00:21:43.200 money.

00:21:44.860 And that is true in some of the cases, but the number one reason was actually availability

00:21:49.740 of work.

00:21:51.200 And a lot of nurses told us that they were offered part-time roles in Canada.

00:21:55.320 They didn't want that.

00:21:56.220 They didn't want to have a part-time job where they would constantly have to be taking extra

00:22:02.180 shifts and not knowing when those shifts are in order to raise their income to a full-time

00:22:07.400 level.

00:22:08.520 So what they did was they just decided, well, I'll go work in Detroit because they're offering

00:22:13.420 me a full-time job there.

00:22:14.760 I get benefits.

00:22:15.800 There's maybe some other perks in that.

00:22:17.620 In one case, someone told us they didn't have to pay for parking.

00:22:20.000 You know, so there's things like that, all kinds of reasons why these workers were deciding

00:22:26.860 on the US.

00:22:28.780 In that survey, they told us the second most common reason was compensation.

00:22:32.660 But then the third was working conditions.

00:22:35.160 So the majority of these nurses decided to work in the US. 1.00

00:22:39.460 It wasn't because of money.

00:22:40.380 It was actually because of working conditions and the availability of work.

00:22:44.160 So those are things that governments can work to address without having to open up the purse

00:22:50.380 strings.

00:22:51.880 So, you know, there's all kinds of, I think, things that governments could learn from this,

00:22:56.180 but one of which is it's a big opportunity to try and sit down and recruit some of these

00:23:00.080 workers.

00:23:01.160 Yeah.

00:23:01.620 Well, unfortunately, a lot of political football always gets played about this.

00:23:05.160 We saw it in the Alberta election recently with health professionals saying they were going

00:23:08.660 to leave the province if the election didn't go this way or that way or unions threatening.

00:23:12.960 But they talked mostly of saying they were going to leave on a lateral basis.

00:23:16.860 Perhaps they'd go to another province to work.

00:23:19.600 But, you know, the problems seem to be the same in every province when it comes to some

00:23:23.120 challenges with health care.

00:23:24.480 So I guess, you know, we should be looking at what's drawing people to the south rather

00:23:29.880 than to what's on the east and west of our provinces.

00:23:32.460 Yeah, I think that's part of it.

00:23:33.920 And, you know, in the case of surveying nurses, they told us, some of them said the problem

00:23:38.640 is the union.

00:23:39.440 They don't want to work in an environment where the union is defending people that are

00:23:43.440 underperforming and not working hard.

00:23:45.240 But that's what unions often do. 0.98

00:23:47.000 And so that was a concern that was raised.

00:23:49.180 Others raised the point that they're working in Detroit.

00:23:52.040 They've been working there for years, maybe 10, 20 years, whatever.

00:23:55.240 They've got all this experience.

00:23:56.600 They're good at their jobs.

00:23:57.520 And if they come back to Canada and work in a government-run hospital where it's a unionized

00:24:02.300 environment, well, they're suddenly at the bottom of the seniority list.

00:24:05.920 So that is a concern.

00:24:07.260 I mean, if you've been in your career for 20 years, do you want to, you know, go work

00:24:11.520 in an environment where you're kind of thought of as a rookie?

00:24:13.620 I don't think a lot of people would want to do that.

00:24:15.900 So that is a concern where I think maybe the unions have to be a little bit flexible.

00:24:21.600 And, you know, if we're all focused on putting patients first, which is what the healthcare

00:24:26.000 system should be all about, then, yeah, maybe the unions need to think about how they 0.81

00:24:30.180 could be a bit flexible to make sure that there are enough workers.

00:24:32.640 But again, that's a public system.

00:24:34.960 In the private sector, typically these clinics, they're not unionized.

00:24:39.960 They're a lot flatter in terms of the hierarchy.

00:24:42.440 So if you are coming in as a nurse and you want to negotiate maybe something in particular

00:24:48.020 to, that works with your schedule, your lifestyle, whatever, it's probably a lot easier to negotiate

00:24:54.280 with your supervisor, whoever, and get that approved rather than going through the big

00:24:58.700 government bureaucratic structure to get something addressed.

00:25:01.820 So that's obviously more common in the U.S. is that they have more of these private clinics

00:25:08.440 and private hospitals, and there's more flexibility there.

00:25:11.080 So that might be something that we might want to learn from how they do it.

00:25:15.480 So you had mentioned, though, that more private clinics have been opening up in Canada and providing

00:25:21.860 those options for healthcare workers and patients.

00:25:24.980 We hear about that, but I mean, it's often a big battle in the main BC.

00:25:29.220 The courts are shutting down some clinics.

00:25:32.440 You know, does that clash with the Health Act or not?

00:25:36.260 Well, there's two issues.

00:25:37.640 The first issue is governments hiring a private clinic to provide services to patients in the

00:25:44.000 public system.

00:25:45.420 So let's say that, heaven forbid, Corey, you require hip surgery, and the Alberta government

00:25:51.960 might say, okay, Corey, you know, you're on X month waiting list or whatever, and when it's

00:25:56.420 your turn, you can either get your hip done at a government hospital or they send you off

00:26:01.800 to a private clinic.

00:26:03.460 If you go to the private clinic, you go in, they do the surgery.

00:26:07.420 When it comes time to leave, you're not given the bill.

00:26:09.640 The government's paying for it just as if you were having that done in a government-run

00:26:13.860 hospital.

00:26:14.900 So there's no real difference to the patient.

00:26:16.900 It's the same.

00:26:17.740 The private clinics have to meet the same standard of care and so forth.

00:26:21.420 It just means that, you know, someone is employed by someone differently than what happens

00:26:26.980 right now.

00:26:27.420 So that's the one approach.

00:26:28.820 Governments have been embracing that across the country.

00:26:32.500 Even in British Columbia, where they take a very abrasive relationship with the private

00:26:37.300 sector and healthcare under the current government there, they even were working with private

00:26:43.060 clinics to reduce their backlogs.

00:26:44.940 So we've been seeing that more and more.

00:26:47.860 Ontario has really aggressively started to go in this direction.

00:26:52.180 They've, Premier Ford there has mused about upwards of half of elective surgeries being done

00:26:57.980 by private clinics in the years ahead.

00:27:00.120 So they really take and embrace this idea.

00:27:04.340 And it actually works.

00:27:05.680 It worked quite well in Saskatchewan.

00:27:07.840 They were able to reduce their wait times.

00:27:10.200 And multiple studies found that the costs were actually lower too, because the private sector

00:27:14.980 is just more efficient or often can be, I should say.

00:27:18.600 So that's the one approach when it comes to the government hiring private clinics to provide

00:27:23.620 services to the public.

00:27:24.440 So the other option is, let's say, Corey, you don't want to wait X number of months to

00:27:31.600 get your hip or your knee done, and you want to just pay for it somewhere and get it done

00:27:35.960 quicker.

00:27:36.920 Well, this is the contentious issue where there's all kinds of, it can be a mess in this country

00:27:45.080 to be blunt.

00:27:46.120 So what happened recently with the Supreme Court is they refused to hear a case that would have

00:27:51.500 potentially brought that right to patients in British Columbia and potentially across

00:27:56.520 the nation would be to allow people the right to use the public system or pay for something

00:28:02.300 at a private clinic.

00:28:03.980 That's what Quebecers have right now. 0.99

00:28:06.640 The Supreme Court gave Quebecers that right in 2005 because the waiting lists were so long.

00:28:14.080 And so what was happening recently was British Columbia was essentially a private clinic there

00:28:18.900 was trying to get that right to patients across the country and obviously in British Columbia.

00:28:23.940 And the Supreme Court refused to hear the case.

00:28:26.420 So now the Supreme Court has created two-tier health care in Canada where Quebec patients

00:28:30.920 have more rights when it comes to health care than everyone else in the rest of the country.

00:28:36.680 Well, and here's some of the irony of the whole thing too, that in BC where they've been

00:28:40.340 a little more jealous and trying to stop attempted reforms. 1.00

00:28:43.420 We heard the story recently with some BC cancer patients who were actually being sent to the

00:28:47.880 United States to get treatment because they couldn't keep up with things in BC.

00:28:51.880 And ironically, I wouldn't be surprised if they had some Canadian nurses or doctors were

00:28:55.380 the ones actually treating them on that side of the border.

00:28:58.060 Yeah, there's all kinds of irony in this.

00:29:00.880 And yeah, you're right.

00:29:01.660 They're sending patients to BC for cancer.

00:29:05.600 In Ontario, actually, some patients are going across the border to Quebec because they can pay

00:29:10.980 for private procedures there.

00:29:14.040 So you've got cancer patients in Ontario going to a Quebec private health facility and paying

00:29:20.000 for cancer treatment.

00:29:21.380 And this is where it gets really weird with our rules.

00:29:24.160 Right now, you can go to another province and pay for private surgeries.

00:29:30.040 You cannot pay in Alberta.

00:29:32.600 I can't either as an Alberta patient.

00:29:34.400 As a Manitoban, you couldn't pay in Manitoba.

00:29:36.780 You could go and pay in Saskatchewan.

00:29:38.260 So it's just, it makes no sense at all, especially when governments are always lecturing us about

00:29:44.020 reducing our carbon footprint.

00:29:45.700 They won't let us pay for health procedures locally, but we can go to another province

00:29:50.620 to pay.

00:29:51.480 So as one example, we actually just did a video on this.

00:29:54.200 We've got it on our social media pages if anyone wants to see it.

00:29:57.700 Someone in Calgary will often go to, say, Vancouver to pay for hip surgery, while a Vancouver

00:30:04.120 will go to Calgary to pay for hip surgery.

00:30:06.480 It makes no sense to force people to leave their local community where they can get this

00:30:14.660 done for a lower cost.

00:30:16.320 Because if you don't have to pay the extra cost for travel and accommodations and whatever,

00:30:20.920 then you save money that way.

00:30:22.720 You could recover, if you could do it locally, you could recover with your family around you

00:30:26.360 and support systems.

00:30:27.400 And then there's, you know, just ultimately having more choice and being able to do it

00:30:33.480 locally.

00:30:33.800 So there's lots of benefits of it, but we just, we're stuck in this 1970s kind of socialist

00:30:39.460 mindset where we really restrict the options that Canadians have.

00:30:44.080 And it hurts the environment, hurts patients.

00:30:45.960 It's just all around not a good, not a good approach.

00:30:48.800 Well, it does sound like sort of kicking and screaming.

00:30:51.800 Reality is kind of starting to set in though.

00:30:53.780 And that's good.

00:30:54.800 And some reforms might, might come along yet.

00:30:57.720 So, I mean, in closing, where can we find more information about this, the full release

00:31:02.660 from you guys and some of your other healthcare work?

00:31:04.600 Because you've got some great videos and things up there.

00:31:06.720 Yeah.

00:31:06.900 Thank you.

00:31:07.900 We're on YouTube, Facebook to search for secondstreet.org on there.

00:31:12.000 You'll find us, our website, obviously is secondstreet.org.

00:31:16.160 We're on Twitter as well and Instagram and the usual social media platforms.

00:31:20.740 And people can, can see what we're up to and read our reports and see all the, the evidence

00:31:25.000 that we gather and, and hopefully it helps inform their, their, what they know about healthcare

00:31:30.720 in this country and other topics.

00:31:32.640 Well, thanks Colin for joining me again today.

00:31:35.100 And yeah, just always offering some good common sense and, you know, stats-based stuff on,

00:31:39.060 on this healthcare issue.

00:31:40.000 Because as I said, it's always a, a top issue with Canadians in every election, yet when

00:31:43.640 it comes time to talk about changing anything, then everybody turtles up.

00:31:46.180 So we really need to have these discussions to make people understand that reform isn't

00:31:50.180 necessarily a bad thing.

00:31:52.420 We need it.

00:31:54.000 This, the healthcare system is collapsing in this country.

00:31:56.760 It's been in a crisis situation for a long time.

00:31:59.900 And unless we have the courage to start reforming things, it's gonna, it's gonna stay in rough

00:32:04.540 shape and, you know, heaven forbid any of us actually need the system because, uh, might

00:32:09.620 not be there.

00:32:10.620 No.

00:32:11.620 And that's, uh, could have the most tragic events.

00:32:14.260 All right.

00:32:15.260 Well, thanks Colin.

00:32:16.260 And, uh, I will, I'm sure we'll talk again soon down the road.

00:32:18.260 Sounds good.

00:32:19.260 Thanks again, Corey.

00:32:20.260 Thank you.

00:32:21.260 So yeah, I was calling Craig of secondstreet.org.

00:32:23.260 Yeah.

00:32:24.060 And yeah, the time goes fast because it's such a big issue and there's so much to cover,

00:32:27.900 but I mean, there's some, uh, you know, things to, to speak of on that, on that.

00:32:32.180 I'm, I'm just, uh, trying to get to the commenter I had seen from Corey Young, for example, a commenter

00:32:37.460 said, public hospitals don't have enough staff, but private clinics do.

00:32:40.480 Now we know why the private steals from the public system.

00:32:43.200 Well, well, no, actually the private competes with the public system and the public system.

00:32:48.820 The public system isn't keeping up the standard to maintain and keep their staff.

00:32:53.480 So what should happen is the public system should figure out what's going wrong and should

00:32:56.800 adapt.

00:32:58.220 And it's not being stolen.

00:32:59.780 Of course they, we can't force people.

00:33:02.060 Well, that's what we try to do in Canada with our health system is so rigid is, is force

00:33:06.380 people to do things and they're going across the border to the States.

00:33:09.400 See, there's the thing people have to learn.

00:33:11.000 It's not just patients crossing the border now to get away from Canada's rigid system.

00:33:15.560 It's the staff.

00:33:16.940 And that's just going to compound the problem we have of waiting lists and problems that

00:33:20.240 was already a big issue.

00:33:23.400 So, um, we need to examine why, why is it superior then to work in a private environment?

00:33:29.620 It doesn't mean a public one can't do so.

00:33:32.260 It just, uh, they need to change things.

00:33:33.700 Uh, Rob Taylor saying, uh, nobody should be able to jump the line by paying for health

00:33:37.620 care service, uh, provincial systems contracting privately provided services as long as patients

00:33:42.180 don't have to pay.

00:33:43.180 I don't agree, Rob.

00:33:44.860 I mean, the thing is people will pay anyways, but they'll go to Montana to do it.

00:33:49.360 Uh, you know, I, why not?

00:33:51.140 I'm okay if a guy next to me pays to get to the line first because he's paying out of pocket

00:33:57.560 to subsidize me getting to the line faster.

00:33:59.980 You know, if he wants to pay out of pocket, so be it.

00:34:03.160 He's going to anyhow.

00:34:05.020 So if it's speeding it up for everybody else while we're at it, it's keeping more health

00:34:08.560 care professionals here.

00:34:09.660 Then why not?

00:34:11.160 As long as we still have full coverage for everybody else, we've got to set aside the

00:34:16.440 envy because it doesn't matter if we're all equally miserable, we're still miserable.

00:34:20.320 And we, we've got to look at the, you just try to get the best outcomes we can.

00:34:26.000 And some of our stubbornness with this is, is, is, uh, holding it back.

00:34:30.980 And something that we keep saying is, is so, so important.

00:34:34.340 But as I said, we're always fearful when people actually talk about reforming it though.

00:34:38.840 And now we're losing the professionals.

00:34:40.360 That's a different, that's why I wanted to talk to Colin about it.

00:34:42.660 We've heard about, uh, you know, healthcare tourism and people leaving to get treatment and

00:34:46.280 things, uh, for a long time, but we haven't heard so much about Canadian workers leaving

00:34:50.700 our system to go to work down there.

00:34:52.520 And that's problematic.

00:34:53.640 I mean, we can't just spring up more healthcare workers out of the ground like daisies. 0.87

00:34:59.420 They're, they're, they're difficult to find and train and get into place.

00:35:02.220 So let's look at why we're losing them and see how we can change our system to make it

00:35:07.900 better.

00:35:09.260 Um, let's see here.

00:35:12.140 What else we got going on?

00:35:13.480 Uh, you know, getting back to the, the, the residential school and, and the, and the

00:35:17.860 burials, uh, you know, some, some other people saying that there's, there's nothing there.

00:35:22.420 Uh, there's nothing to be found if we excavate and things like that.

00:35:25.060 I don't know.

00:35:26.340 You know, that's most of what I'm saying when it comes to that is we don't know.

00:35:30.660 We have to excavate to find out.

00:35:33.140 I'm not sitting here to say that there's no human remains at the Kamloops site.

00:35:39.100 None have been found yet, but the other thing is nobody's looked.

00:35:43.480 And this is really starting to make some of us scratch our heads.

00:35:47.000 I mean, come on, but why haven't you followed through?

00:35:49.580 This is huge.

00:35:50.760 We aren't even trying to look a little further yet.

00:35:55.940 I, we should be pretty concerned.

00:35:58.040 This is serious stuff.

00:36:00.140 Um, Rob Taylor also saying bust the government unions and fix the system.

00:36:04.000 Yeah, I, I, the unions are, um, I mean, you see unions are right, you know, organized labor

00:36:10.960 is a right.

00:36:11.600 Collective bargaining is right.

00:36:12.680 So we can't get rid of them, but we should have some means to allow staff to avoid the

00:36:17.640 make the unions compete as well.

00:36:19.540 And the way to do that is to have more, yeah, private non-union options to compete for those

00:36:26.740 employees and staff.

00:36:27.580 Those who don't want to deal with the union can choose those.

00:36:30.180 And if there's too many people, as far as the union is concerned, going to the alternative

00:36:34.480 facilities to work, well, the unions are going to have to learn how to keep their own members

00:36:38.820 around.

00:36:39.180 Won't they?

00:36:39.520 I think, you know, we, monopolies that, that's, that's what it always comes down to

00:36:44.780 is monopolies.

00:36:46.400 When there's a monopoly, we all lose.

00:36:49.180 Consumer always lose.

00:36:50.200 In this case, it's a healthcare consumer.

00:36:51.760 We still all lose.

00:36:52.600 If there's only one provider, um, a couple of things.

00:36:57.140 Okay.

00:36:57.340 I want to clarify a little more on the cam loops thing, because I see a couple of commenters

00:37:01.120 too.

00:37:01.360 So I've seen, I've had a lot of this discussion on social media about that with cam loops

00:37:05.460 and, and the, uh, GPR.

00:37:06.740 And one was saying, you'll always find bone, you'll find bones in a graveyard.

00:37:10.340 And, uh, James saying, uh, we're, we're not allowed to talk about the unmarked graves.

00:37:13.800 Yes.

00:37:14.000 Okay.

00:37:14.420 See, we got two issues going on too.

00:37:17.720 And, uh, one of the issues is that people think that this was a known graveyard.

00:37:24.260 It wasn't okay.

00:37:25.840 A bunch of the, what happened once these GPR anomalies were found in cam loops, they started

00:37:32.160 doing GPR at known cemeteries all over the place, all across Western Canada and found

00:37:38.060 more anomalies in known graveyards.

00:37:40.080 So yes, they went to a graveyard and they identified graves and they were unmarked because

00:37:44.320 yes, if you go to even, if I know, cause I go regularly through it, the Stoney Reserve

00:37:48.640 in, in, uh, towards Banff, for example, their cemetery is all full of nothing but wooden

00:37:53.760 crosses.

00:37:54.160 Even right now, they're going to rot away and they're going to disappear.

00:37:56.360 But Kamloops was different.

00:37:59.520 Kamloops was never a known cemetery.

00:38:02.880 It was a septic field.

00:38:04.620 It was an apple orchard, but it wasn't known as a cemetery.

00:38:09.840 That's a little different.

00:38:11.000 This was supposedly a place where the priests, after they would molest and kill children, these 0.65

00:38:15.680 are the stories. 0.91

00:38:16.440 These are the stories.

00:38:17.360 And they would get the, then they'd wake other children up in the night and make them

00:38:20.220 go out with shovels and bury them in the apple orchard.

00:38:22.900 And to be honest, the stories sound pretty excessive.

00:38:27.800 Who knows?

00:38:28.300 The world's been known to be a pretty sick place.

00:38:30.440 So we can't discount anything.

00:38:32.100 I mean, we've seen some horrible, horrible things committed, uh, by humans against humans

00:38:37.000 many times in history.

00:38:38.360 So I won't say it's impossible, but again, it tells us that we have to get in there and

00:38:43.060 start looking around, find out just what happened.

00:38:47.360 Nobody wants to talk about it.

00:38:48.800 Uh, well, no, lots of us want to talk about it and that's part of the problem.

00:38:53.340 All right.

00:38:53.540 And then other governments talking about making it a crime to talk about it.

00:38:57.000 Well, I guess I'll be charged because you know, I won't shut up about something that,

00:39:01.680 uh, important.

00:39:04.080 Uh, let's see.

00:39:05.420 We'll turn the page a little bit more here.

00:39:07.280 We can talk a little more about a federal government hypocrisy.

00:39:10.160 Speaking again, like I talked about Trudeau and his latest massive hotel bill to, to go

00:39:14.640 and virtue signal down in New York because he has such an understanding of the causes

00:39:18.380 of poverty.

00:39:19.720 Uh, our governor general, you know, the one who spent, I think what it was, uh, 90,000

00:39:24.780 on a day trip and stuff like that.

00:39:27.540 Uh, she, uh, burned through 25,000 liters of jet fuel to give a climate change speech in 1.00

00:39:34.300 Finland.

00:39:35.020 Yes.

00:39:35.600 So again, just her and her entourage, you know, they can't zoom in.

00:39:41.060 And the rest of us were expected to for years, uh, but, uh, 25,000 liters of fuel, one trip

00:39:46.820 for somebody who, again, she's, she's appointed a governor general.

00:39:49.940 We got to remember governor general's a ribbon cutter guys.

00:39:51.940 They, they, they're trained for anything all that special that they're an aristocrat.

00:39:56.220 They're a symbol.

00:39:57.940 So it's really not that essential that we need this person in this position to fly around

00:40:03.500 the world and lecture people on climate change.

00:40:06.420 Where's her expertise on climate change? 0.57

00:40:08.120 What the hell does she know about climate change?

00:40:09.640 She doesn't, but she loves jet setting.

00:40:11.880 She loves flying around.

00:40:13.580 She loves burning that fuel, which is burning through your tax dollars. 1.00

00:40:18.000 And, uh, it's just an insult to those of us as we got a second carbon tax coming up on

00:40:22.760 us pretty soon as the first one just wasn't enough.

00:40:26.760 And, uh, she's just jet setting around the world.

00:40:30.040 I mean, she's apparently, she's not as a vile a personality as Trudeau's first choice of, 0.98

00:40:34.360 uh, governor generals were, you know, she went out and disgraced that last one. 1.00

00:40:37.500 Uh, this one's just, uh, spinning her way out, but she's not abusing the staff as much. 1.00

00:40:41.340 In fact, she's probably treating them to caviar, I guess, uh, while they fly around together.

00:40:46.780 Uh, speaking again of the Senate and speaking of, well, speaking of, uh, unaccountable government.

00:40:53.420 But yeah, you know, and Tim Burns saying that position should be eliminated.

00:40:56.580 I agree.

00:40:57.040 It should, we should be a Republic.

00:40:58.280 We don't need the Queens represent one of the Kings representative, uh, sitting over

00:41:02.800 us any longer, but, uh, that would take constitutional reform, which is virtually impossible in this

00:41:07.960 country.

00:41:08.200 Um, so one step at a time, um, but we should defund it.

00:41:12.680 You know, we don't have to, uh, uh, uh, um, give her a big budget any longer. 1.00

00:41:19.940 She can have her role.

00:41:21.180 I bet you for the paltry wage of a hundred thousand a year in expenses, you know, somebody

00:41:24.960 would take that job and probably do a good job with it, but, uh, you know, okay.

00:41:29.460 Let's see here.

00:41:30.120 Actually.

00:41:30.400 Yeah.

00:41:30.620 Uh, thanks for the reminder there from Chris Gibson saying, uh, what's my opinion on the

00:41:34.320 recent federal by-elections?

00:41:36.180 And, um, that's, uh, yeah.

00:41:39.560 So there were four by-elections held.

00:41:41.660 Uh, they were in Manitoba and I think Ontario, Quebec, maybe.

00:41:44.420 I can't remember exactly where I know there were two in Manitoba.

00:41:47.200 Um, Maxine Bernier was trying to make his mark and, and, uh, show himself as being a viable

00:41:53.040 candidate.

00:41:53.580 Unfortunately, he came in at least unfortunately for him, uh, with even, you know, a fewer percentage

00:41:58.000 than the PPC candidate did.

00:42:00.620 Uh, in the general election last time around in that riding in Winnipeg.

00:42:04.960 Uh, so, and he was nowhere even close to winning.

00:42:08.080 So it doesn't bode very well for the PPC, I think in, in building an option, but we'll

00:42:12.300 see.

00:42:13.140 Um, the other distressing part is the needle hasn't moved a bit.

00:42:17.600 I mean, two liberal seats, two conservative seats got returns of two liberal seats, two

00:42:22.220 conservative seats. 0.94

00:42:23.080 So all of the scandals, all of the, uh, coverups, all of the crap going on with Trudeau is, is 0.95

00:42:29.620 fake, uh, position of special rapporteur and, and then all of the games being played. 0.87

00:42:36.260 And it doesn't seem to have made a single bit of difference.

00:42:39.840 People are going to vote one way and they're going to vote the other, which means basically

00:42:42.980 if, um, we, uh, real letter had another election today, we'd probably pretty much have the same

00:42:50.860 bunch in there again.

00:42:51.780 So it gets distressing because I don't know what on earth it takes.

00:42:55.460 What does it take to get rid of Justin Trudeau's government?

00:43:00.240 It's not healthy for a country to be stuck, um, that, uh, badly on a government that, well,

00:43:06.980 it's performing so badly.

00:43:08.900 Um, yeah, we'll see.

00:43:11.580 But those by-elections, well, they, they didn't give us a lot to read into the tea leaves.

00:43:14.460 We have one more now that just opened up in Alberta.

00:43:16.760 That's in Calgary Heritage.

00:43:18.340 Uh, Shuv Majumdar, he's been on the show a couple of times.

00:43:20.600 He's running in it for the Conservatives and, uh, it's a very, very safe seat.

00:43:26.240 It's Calgary Heritage.

00:43:27.320 So there's not many, not much we can read into the tea leaves with what's going to happen

00:43:30.880 with that one.

00:43:31.400 The Conservatives are going to win it handily.

00:43:33.440 So, uh, yeah, it gets difficult to, to break the status quo around here.

00:43:38.200 First going next with, uh, yeah, Trudeau's former pop top public servant is now a Senator.

00:43:43.920 You know, there's, there's that great plum rule you get is thrown out into the Senate and,

00:43:49.360 uh, where you could sit and collect a giant salary and do very little and, um, uh, collect,

00:43:55.240 you know, get a nice pension eventually.

00:43:56.960 And, uh, Ian Sugar, it's the name and he's, uh, warning the way the Senate structured can

00:44:01.580 give senators a feeling they have more power than they have a right to. 0.84

00:44:05.240 He's saying that, uh, the Senate shouldn't be opposing the government.

00:44:08.560 And is he, this is cutting through some of the BS of Trudeau when he's changed, one of

00:44:13.700 his reforms he claimed to have been doing when he came in was saying, we're going to end

00:44:17.540 the partisanship in the Senate and they're no longer liberal senators.

00:44:20.980 They are independent senators.

00:44:22.580 I'll just appoint them, but they'll be independent.

00:44:25.420 No, they aren't. 0.99

00:44:26.240 Listen to this clown. 1.00

00:44:27.480 Independent. 0.99

00:44:28.400 That's not independent at all.

00:44:29.800 In fact, he's chiding the other senators for their daring to be independent.

00:44:34.100 So no, that's not independent senators whatsoever.

00:44:36.880 Now, end the facade, at least let them wear their partisan colors again, guys.

00:44:42.080 I mean, come on, you know, just feeding us the BS on these things is, it's just something

00:44:47.880 else.

00:44:48.200 At least I'll give it to him in the sense of him being honest about it a little bit.

00:44:52.140 Um, who is it, Dennis?

00:44:54.080 Uh, they're saying Alberta will have to leave Canada to save Canada.

00:44:56.940 Well, it's something I've said for a while is we need a catalyst.

00:44:59.460 We need something to blow things up, whether it's Alberta, whether it's Quebec, whether it's

00:45:02.840 whatever it is, but our system is broken and our status quo is stuck.

00:45:05.840 Whether it's trying to fix things like the Senate, trying to fix things like the governor

00:45:08.940 general, all of these require constitutional reforms.

00:45:12.440 And as we've seen, Meach Lake, Charlottetown, historically, whenever we try to change the

00:45:18.080 constitution, unfortunately, we seem to fail.

00:45:20.620 So I think we need, uh, yes, we need a province to get either right on the brink of or to actually

00:45:27.520 vote to leave this country.

00:45:28.680 And I can't see what else will manage to shift the needle on things.

00:45:32.320 We'll see.

00:45:33.140 We'll see.

00:45:33.620 Maybe something will change from within.

00:45:35.960 All right.

00:45:36.700 Let's see.

00:45:37.180 Well, all I can say too, then, as I start to wrap things up, we're still keeping an eye

00:45:42.160 on the news.

00:45:42.800 Watch the site.

00:45:43.680 If we find out anything else on the, that horror story of those poor, poor souls stuck

00:45:47.720 on that, uh, uh, submersible somewhere out there.

00:45:51.520 Let's hope that, uh, well, you know, a miracle happens and they're found alive.

00:45:55.480 I know it's hard to find sympathy sometimes for tourists who've spent so much money to go

00:45:59.780 into something so dangerous, but all the same, you don't wish anything as horrific as,

00:46:03.240 as dying out in the sea like that on them.

00:46:05.160 Uh, there'll be plenty more to report on next week, guys, and, uh, lots of ranting to come.

00:46:09.780 So thanks for tuning in with us today and we will see you all next week at this time.

00:46:14.020 Here's an update on commodity prices in Lethbridge for today.

00:46:20.080 Cash barley is up $3 at $4.23, feed wheat increased $2 at $4.21, and corn moved higher $5 at $4.24

00:46:29.200 per metric ton.

00:46:30.480 In the milling wheat markets, July Minneapolis futures jumped $0.19.75 to $8.68.75, with local

00:46:37.620 hard red spring bid for July movement at $10.75 per bushel.

00:46:40.740 Looking at canola, nearby futures are lower a dollar at $7.44.50 per ton, with delivered

00:46:47.240 values for June movement at $17.10 per bushel.

00:46:49.980 And in the pulse markets, nearby red lentil prices are holding at $0.33.50 per pound, and

00:46:55.460 yellow peas are trading at $11.25 per bushel.

00:46:58.960 In the cattle markets, August live cattle slip $0.12.50 to $1.77 per hundredweight.

00:47:05.160 For more information on pricing, give me a call at 403-394-1711.

00:47:11.020 I'm Matt Musicum at Marketplace Commodities.

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Western Standard - June 21, 2023

Cory Morgan Show. Where are the bodies？

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