Western Standard - Cory Morgan Show. Why isn’t COVID killing the unvaccinated

00:00:00.000 We'll be right back.

00:00:30.000 Good day. Welcome to the Corey Morgan show. This is my weekly playground with the Western Standard where I'll rant, rave, turn your ear, talk about issues for a period of time and, you know, solve some of the world's problems. I am as the show name would imply, Corey Morgan. So thanks for tuning in with us today, guys. And for those who are tuning in live, again, I appreciate it. I like that live audience thing going on. I see Paradoxie and Bob commenting already. Send those comments, send those ideas.

00:00:59.780 I don't read them all out necessarily on the air, but I do see them all and it helps me. It helps prompt me along. I learn a lot of things on this show when I see some of those comments and interaction and things going back and forth. Discuss things with each other. I've seen that in the comments scroll as well. Lots of times there's E Sharp and Debbie McKenzie. Just keep things civil, of course. That's the important thing. We got lots of time to fight other places, other times. That's what the internet's all about.

00:01:23.780 But we don't necessarily need to do it on here. So yeah, I've got a good one coming up. I got a guest in a little while. He's the executive director of the Indigenous Resource Network. His name is John Desjardins. He's a businessman and their site's really good.

00:01:36.800 And I like their positive messaging. I'm really looking forward to talking to him and their campaign, which is called Resource Development is Reconciliation.

00:01:43.780 Reconciliation. Quite different than what we typically have been hearing about what is or isn't reconciliation and things such as that. So that'll be a good chat as well. Lots of news. I'll check in with Dave in a little while and see what's going on.

00:01:58.400 Karen Mitchell saying happy news today. I don't know. There's all kinds of news going on. You can decide whether it's happy or not. I'm going to start with my opening monologue.

00:02:07.460 I'll go on something that's not terribly controversial. I want to ask, why aren't the unvaccinated dying? Yeah, I know. A little bit loaded. But it's worth asking. 1.00

00:02:16.680 You know, in the last six months, 94% of Canadians didn't bother getting COVID-19 boosters. Now remember, we've been told, we've been told over and over, we have to get these boosters every six months or this is coming back.

00:02:28.380 Well, only 6% of Canadians have bothered to do that. Now, with a campaign of coercion using fear, economic duress and social ostracization, Canada did manage to twist the arms of Canadians hard enough to get 80% of the population to get two doses of the vaccine.

00:02:44.880 The number of people taking part, though, in the lifetime of booster shots recommended by many medical experts who often coincidentally are in the pharmaceutical industry is dropped pretty dramatically.

00:02:54.800 Now, in response to this, we're starting to see a push again from authorities, though, to try and coax the citizens into getting yet another injection this fall.

00:03:03.020 You know, with hindsight, we've learned that the vaccinations, at least, you know, they may reduce symptoms, but they did nothing to prevent the spread of COVID-19, though we were told by many medical experts and politicians it would.

00:03:12.920 The entire basis of locking unvaccinated people from business establishments, schools, social gatherings, and travel was on the false premise that vaccine prevents transmission.

00:03:24.800 Another thing we know now, too, is while COVID-19 is a serious virus, it presents little serious risk to young, healthy people.

00:03:32.820 Children are virtually immune to COVID-19, and adults rarely experience anything worse than flu-like symptoms from the virus if they feel any symptoms whatsoever.

00:03:43.200 Unless, of course, they had a few comorbidities, which includes advanced age.

00:03:47.720 There was never a need to coerce young, healthy people into vaccinations and boosters, and there still isn't now.

00:03:54.280 Unless you're in the business of selling vaccines, of course.

00:03:56.760 This isn't opinion. This is just medical and statistical reality.

00:04:01.140 But it was found that people weren't cooperating in getting boosters every six months as they were told the fear campaign was ramped up, though.

00:04:06.500 We were told COVID-19 is always going to be with us, and if we don't all get boosters, hospitals will surely be overwhelmed, and the bodies will pile up in the seats as the virus would resurge.

00:04:17.220 Well, the resurgence of COVID-19 never happened, and it won't.

00:04:21.260 Vulnerable people have been vaccinated. Probably a good idea. 1.00

00:04:24.220 And despite the dire warnings from the experts, the unvaccinated haven't been decimated by the infection.

00:04:29.640 I know, most of us just want to leave the pandemic experience and misery in the rearview mirror.

00:04:34.920 It dominated our lives for years, and we just don't want to relive it.

00:04:38.380 Like it or not, though, we can't let the doom-seeing henny pennies off the hook for what they did to us all. 1.00

00:04:44.060 These panic-pushing patsies haven't given up, and they'll come out of the woodwork to demand lockdowns and mandated masking at the first sign of an increase in COVID-19 levels or the emergence of any new virus.

00:04:54.740 They thrive on fear, and authoritarians at all levels of government love to indulge those fears with legislation targeting the freedoms of citizens.

00:05:02.900 The panic-pouring pushers were dead wrong.

00:05:05.540 We can't forget that, and we can't let our elected officials forget that.

00:05:09.260 If we let the memory of how badly we were treated by a state in panic over a virus fade, we're inviting another similar event to happen.

00:05:16.280 The government's changed the information it shares on the booster status of Canadians now, actually, to only include the last six months.

00:05:22.400 Now, why is that? It's our information, isn't it?

00:05:25.160 What purpose is being served in hiding that information from our own citizens?

00:05:30.760 The reason, of course, is they don't want to know, they don't want us to know just how dismal their own numbers are.

00:05:35.400 They don't want people to see just how few citizens are falling for the lifetime of booster's recommendation.

00:05:40.500 Again, guys, 6%. That's nothing to brag about.

00:05:43.460 If, indeed, those things were preventing things, we should be overrun by infections.

00:05:48.500 With the information being limited in just the last six months, though, the picture's still pretty bleak, right?

00:05:52.440 The number puts lie to the case of fear still being made as we're pushed to get an injection twice a year.

00:05:59.960 If the boosters save lives, why is the lack of uptake, why isn't it killing us?

00:06:04.480 COVID-19 is still around.

00:06:05.740 The virus is endemic, and it's still seriously harming vulnerable people with comorbidities.

00:06:09.580 It's still infecting healthy people, though they often don't even feel the symptoms if it's just a flu.

00:06:15.600 If the motivation for pushing boosters on citizens isn't based on health, though, it must be financial.

00:06:20.500 What better market could a drug manufacturer possibly hope for than a populace coerced by a government into taking your product?

00:06:26.280 But the coercion is failing, and people aren't getting more jabs.

00:06:29.580 That's great news.

00:06:30.320 Don't think for a second, though, that those invested in pushing mass COVID-19 vaccinations have given up.

00:06:35.580 They're lobbying governments, they're influencing the press, and they're just waiting for the next chance to try and whip up a profitable panic over a potential pandemic.

00:06:43.760 We have to remain on guard.

00:06:45.520 The pandemic experience and its associated lockdowns isn't finished.

00:06:49.480 The last few years have just been the opening chapter of that book.

00:06:52.540 So again, guys, hindsight's good for nothing if we don't make use of it.

00:06:56.660 So let's not forget these things, and let's keep watching those numbers.

00:06:59.160 It's important.

00:07:00.540 All right, that's what's got me going this morning.

00:07:03.980 Let's just keep watching those numbers and hope everybody stays safe.

00:07:06.960 So let's check in with Dave Naylor and see what else is going on in the newsroom.

00:07:11.700 Hey, Corey.

00:07:13.780 Good.

00:07:14.460 We're all very excited.

00:07:16.180 Women's World Cup kicks off tomorrow.

00:07:18.420 You're probably excited, too.

00:07:20.360 Oh, beside myself with anticipation.

00:07:24.660 Corey.

00:07:25.180 Hey, I got a question for you.

00:07:26.960 What would you do if I gave you $1 billion?

00:07:30.760 Well, you wouldn't see me for a while.

00:07:33.540 I'd probably do a great deal of traveling and die of overindulgence from fat-rich foods.

00:07:39.800 All right.

00:07:40.080 Would you give me any?

00:07:42.220 Eh, maybe.

00:07:43.380 I'd toss a little bit around before I fly the coop.

00:07:46.900 All right.

00:07:47.260 The reason I'm asking is it's our top story on the site right now for only the third time in history, the Powerball jackpot in the U.S.

00:07:54.780 has soared past the $1 billion mark.

00:07:58.700 Just a really, really stupid amount of money, obviously.

00:08:04.580 But, you know, it gives people some nice things to dream about, about what they would do with that sort of lotto loot.

00:08:12.860 All the stuff making the news this morning, Corey, the city of Toronto, you know, being overrun with crime and drug addicts.

00:08:21.780 They've sort of set their goals on the lofty ambition to ban lawnmowers.

00:08:27.680 Yep, that's right.

00:08:28.580 They want to ban lawnmowers because they want to ban all two-stroke engines.

00:08:32.600 So lawnmowers, leaf blowers, all those type of things will be banned.

00:08:38.400 But, you know, they're going to set up rental shops around the city where you can go and rent an electric lawnmower to keep up with your yard maintenance.

00:08:48.240 So another ludicrous idea of the center of the universe.

00:08:53.180 Our Dave Makachuk's got an interesting column on sports salaries and how the obscene money that today's athletes are getting paid.

00:09:02.080 And he's questioning whether it's distorting our own values.

00:09:07.080 Our business reporter, Sean Polzer, has got an interesting story up on what's known as the Church of Bleach.

00:09:13.740 This was an organization that was selling fake beauty products that basically contained bleach that was being used as a, they were trying to sell it as a miracle COVID cure.

00:09:26.060 So a Calgary guy's been arrested and charged 12 grand.

00:09:31.200 And WestJet, he's eating a bit of corporate egg today.

00:09:35.800 Earlier this week, they were advertising really ridiculous cheap round-trip flights, round-trip to London or Dublin basically for 200 bucks.

00:09:47.380 So, of course, people saw that and snapped it up.

00:09:50.240 But WestJet says it was a problem with the third party and they're not going to honor the fair.

00:09:58.260 So I'm sure they've upset a lot of angry travelers there.

00:10:03.240 And story, Corey, a great story I'm just about to put up.

00:10:06.140 The government of Alberta, as you know, they auction off a lot of their surplus goods.

00:10:10.980 And they've now got a surplus human-sized donair suit that you can buy, Corey.

00:10:18.440 Right now, the top bid is a thousand bucks.

00:10:20.900 So, you know, if you and Jane wanted to add some, you know, some excitement to your estate out in Prittis, I think a donair suit would be the way to do it.

00:10:30.120 Well, we've got an anniversary coming up.

00:10:32.380 I'll have to keep that in mind.

00:10:33.700 You know, I don't see how she could possibly resist me if I showed up dressed in nothing but a donair suit.

00:10:39.100 No, exactly.

00:10:40.160 You'd be very tasty.

00:10:43.260 Right on.

00:10:44.040 Well, I'm glad to see our government is shedding itself of some of their less-needed possessions.

00:10:49.340 I can't imagine what they were using it for in the first place.

00:10:52.100 But I'm sure the story will explain all.

00:10:54.980 You bet.

00:10:56.040 All right.

00:10:56.680 Well, thanks, Dave.

00:10:57.880 Lots on the go.

00:10:59.180 I'll let you get back to rounding up your herd of reporters and keeping those stories coming.

00:11:03.860 Yahoo.

00:11:05.100 All right.

00:11:06.380 That is Dave Naylor, our news editor in the newsroom.

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00:12:41.360 So, let's see.

00:12:42.660 You know, one of the things Dave brought up, I don't know if people saw it, but it was quite hilarious.

00:12:47.740 Credit due to a cameraman with CTV.

00:12:50.780 I hope he's still there.

00:12:52.800 You might have seen the video going around.

00:12:54.280 He, basically, somebody from Toronto, it was from a transportation authority of some sort,

00:12:58.740 but she was saying that they've got all these delayed flights under control, and they fixed the issues, and everything's great, and everybody's happy,

00:13:04.580 and she's doing this presser at an airport in Toronto. 1.00

00:13:08.380 And in the background, though, there's the flight schedule.

00:13:13.440 You know, in an airport, you get the digital screen with all that, and the camera pans up.

00:13:16.640 I think the cameraman said to himself, I'm just reading in,

00:13:19.240 I can't stomach any more of this BS out of this woman, 1.00

00:13:21.600 because he raises the camera up, and you see dozens and dozens of flights,

00:13:25.520 and they're all delayed and cancelled all over the place.

00:13:28.520 Just cancelled, cancelled, cancelled.

00:13:30.080 Oh, there we go.

00:13:30.640 Yes, the standard cover.

00:13:31.460 You see the camera scrolling up, and if that screen's a little too small,

00:13:34.820 you can see all the cancellations and delays sort of lie to what this woman was trying to say.

00:13:42.420 I am curious, though.

00:13:43.820 Like, what on earth is going on with the airlines?

00:13:47.120 I mean, I'm not a big fan of Air Canada.

00:13:49.140 They're having huge problems, but it's all of them.

00:13:51.200 They're all going through misery.

00:13:52.960 I'm watching people, all sorts of anecdotes, traveling through the States,

00:13:56.400 through different American airlines, WestJet here in Canada, Porter Airlines, you name it.

00:14:00.840 Constant delays, constant cancellations.

00:14:03.980 Like, there's something, and I don't know.

00:14:06.000 I've seen all sorts of speculation.

00:14:07.420 I've seen all sorts of excuses.

00:14:08.680 I've seen things made.

00:14:09.420 But something has just thrown a wrench into the entire air travel system in North America,

00:14:15.440 and they can't seem to break themselves out of it.

00:14:17.700 And it's miserable.

00:14:18.880 You know, back when I used to, I can't imagine if I still did what I used to have to do.

00:14:24.400 Like, my boss, back in the days when I used to fly around in the States,

00:14:27.800 troubleshooting, managing oil exploration programs,

00:14:31.480 he would buy me flights, and he would just go on to Expedia and pick the cheapest one.

00:14:35.800 You know, sort by price, and that'd be my flight.

00:14:37.420 Because he paid me a day rate, so it wouldn't matter how long it took me to get where I was going.

00:14:40.660 He was going to pay me the same amount.

00:14:42.060 So I'd get some flights.

00:14:42.980 I'd have to go to Pittsburgh.

00:14:43.780 It'd be like six different connections.

00:14:45.360 They'd lose my luggage about a quarter of the time.

00:14:47.380 He was pretty clear.

00:14:48.040 He said, you want better service and everything.

00:14:50.980 Don't worry, Corey.

00:14:51.480 You can just buy your own flights.

00:14:52.540 Well, of course, you know, okay, I'll put up with it.

00:14:54.460 But boy, I would never have made those connections

00:14:57.500 if the airline service was as unreliable and screwed up as it is today.

00:15:02.880 Not a chance.

00:15:03.920 Like I said, I had a lot of tough connections sprinting through airports

00:15:07.000 all over North America over those years as it was.

00:15:09.800 But at least back then, the majority of flights were on time.

00:15:13.280 And at least would fly.

00:15:14.660 Like now they just keep canceling and they don't give explanations.

00:15:18.040 You know, the air industry, for one thing, though,

00:15:21.120 people get upset with them a lot because it's so no frills.

00:15:24.060 We've got to blame ourselves a little bit for that, too.

00:15:25.800 I mean, air travel is way cheaper now than we ever imagined in the past.

00:15:30.000 I mean, flights and everything used to be just for the very rich people in the past.

00:15:34.640 And you didn't casually do it.

00:15:37.160 If you're gray in the muzzle like I am, you remember,

00:15:39.320 you didn't just hop out for a weekend on a flight like we do nowadays.

00:15:43.120 But the reason we get that is because you're in those cramped little seats

00:15:45.880 and because you've got to pay for extra baggage and all you get is a lousy little bag of peanuts.

00:15:50.300 But still, they can't reliably get you from place to place now.

00:15:54.420 Then, well, you're starting to wonder whether it's worthwhile at all.

00:15:56.920 I don't know. There's some sort of tipping point has hit with the airlines.

00:15:59.860 And we'll see what comes out of it.

00:16:02.080 OK, I see our guest in the lobby.

00:16:03.620 I've been looking forward to this conversation.

00:16:05.540 It's John Digelay.

00:16:07.340 I could be messing that up.

00:16:08.380 It's a French sort of name pronunciation, but I think that's correct. 0.86

00:16:11.320 And he's the executive director of the Indigenous Resource Network.

00:16:15.780 And, yeah, I've been looking forward to talking to him about their campaign on

00:16:19.380 resource development is reconciliation.

00:16:22.140 It just sounds quite contrary to a lot of campaigns we hear on these kinds of issues.

00:16:25.720 So thank you very much for joining us today, John.

00:16:28.480 We really appreciate it.

00:16:29.660 It's my absolute pleasure, Corey.

00:16:31.620 Yeah, I'm super excited to be here and talk about what we're doing.

00:16:35.480 Great. Yeah.

00:16:36.260 And, I mean, what caught my eye with that?

00:16:37.760 And, I mean, your site is fantastic.

00:16:39.100 And we'll go into a little of that in a little while, too,

00:16:40.940 just in general with the stories from people and things like that.

00:16:43.440 But just a positive messaging outlook.

00:16:47.860 It's just saying, you know what, you know, don't listen to all the other things.

00:16:51.980 If we want reconciliation, let's develop resources.

00:16:54.340 Let's get people prosperous and have them living happily in their communities out there.

00:16:58.780 And it seems like it's simple common sense, but not enough people are saying that sort of thing.

00:17:04.160 No, absolutely.

00:17:05.180 Yeah.

00:17:05.460 And that's one of the reasons why we stood up the network.

00:17:08.100 But, yeah, like, you know, reconciliation.

00:17:10.640 How do we achieve reconciliation?

00:17:12.060 How do we look at resource development from an abundance mindset in terms of prosperity for all,

00:17:17.600 you know, sharing in the risks, but also sharing in the resources and the rewards,

00:17:23.240 you know, from an equitable perspective and how that's facilitating, you know,

00:17:26.840 community engagement and self-determination, you know.

00:17:30.700 And so there's so many exciting things happening that are positive for all of Canada

00:17:35.280 and Canadians and the industry.

00:17:36.900 So we're really excited to talk about that and to, you know, further understand it,

00:17:41.520 but also celebrate what's happening and why that's important for communities and Canada.

00:17:46.360 Well, it's in a large number of Indigenous communities, of course,

00:17:49.520 are in isolated areas relative to our population centers.

00:17:53.020 And if it isn't resource development to help them become independent,

00:17:56.420 there isn't necessarily a lot there.

00:17:59.220 But, I mean, it runs contrary to some people make it sound as if the discussion, too,

00:18:03.920 as if everybody in the Indigenous community is all on the same page.

00:18:07.820 I mean, there's multiple points of view on how much development should happen or who and where,

00:18:11.780 and you should be allowed to have that open discussion.

00:18:14.660 Absolutely, yeah.

00:18:15.800 Like, and we built the network off a poll that found that, you know,

00:18:19.040 predominantly Indigenous people and communities are in favor of resource development.

00:18:23.760 And some of the consistencies are, you know, in favor of good, meaningful development,

00:18:29.200 sustainable development, which aligns with the goals of Canada, our government and industry.

00:18:35.120 And, you know, there's incredible sentiment there in terms of let's do this.

00:18:39.580 Let's do this together and share in that prosperity.

00:18:42.660 Yeah, well, and nobody's got a better interest in sustainable and responsible development

00:18:46.820 than the people who live in the area.

00:18:48.320 I mean, you could support the development of a pipeline because if you're there to watch,

00:18:52.700 you make sure that you minimize impact.

00:18:54.460 You're not going to go out there and make more of a mess than you have to, again.

00:18:58.980 But we're not hearing that messaging a lot from the communities.

00:19:01.440 They seem to focus on the activists who oppose, unfortunately, in the media rather than the

00:19:05.880 people who are interested in developing.

00:19:08.160 Yeah, absolutely.

00:19:09.000 And so, you know, again, one of the reasons we think we're important to this conversation

00:19:14.580 is to, you know, I think challenge that sensationalization of Indigenous sentiment in resource

00:19:21.080 development and, you know, and activism and has really certainly, you know, I think been

00:19:27.600 the predominant voice.

00:19:29.360 But we're, you know, we and so many other groups and communities are here to say that

00:19:33.120 it's not the representative voice.

00:19:34.800 It doesn't represent the majority and doesn't represent by and far largely the sentiment in

00:19:40.600 terms of being involved in developing, moving the development forward.

00:19:44.200 And in line with what you just said, absolutely, Indigenous people are here to influence and

00:19:50.240 assert through ownership, you know, greater sustainability in terms of design, in terms

00:19:54.640 of construction, in terms of operation, because you're absolutely right.

00:19:58.660 You know, communities bear considerable environmental risk with resource development, understand that.

00:20:03.680 And the conversation changes when we're in a position to be able to influence, you know,

00:20:08.120 the development in a way that ensures the protection of that environment and the culture

00:20:13.380 and ceremony that surrounds the development in the land and the land use.

00:20:18.620 Yeah.

00:20:19.300 And something that's changed, I think, as well has been some of the attitudes from industry

00:20:23.200 and perhaps it's from like proactive business people like yourself speaking out.

00:20:26.880 I was in the oil industry way back 30 years ago and such, and we'd work in areas with Indigenous

00:20:31.440 communities, but to be honest, usually at best, okay, well, we'll kind of check to the local

00:20:35.780 community or something like that, or maybe hire a few folks and then we'll move on.

00:20:40.120 But now companies are often seeking actual partnerships, not tokenism.

00:20:44.640 They want participation with the local community so that there's an investment and it's longer

00:20:50.860 term and that can certainly have a lot more positive longer term outcomes.

00:20:55.620 Yeah, absolutely.

00:20:56.640 It does.

00:20:57.180 And so, you know, historically, communities were seen as maybe even potentially risk or

00:21:03.140 stakeholders as part of the process, as part of the development process.

00:21:06.460 But the sentiment is changing and changing at a rate that is exciting, especially over

00:21:11.600 the last, you know, five, 10 years.

00:21:13.420 Yes, jurisprudence says that, you know, Indigenous people have more, you know, rights and more

00:21:19.020 obligation for consultation.

00:21:20.980 But industry is even moving past that and saying, no, it's just really good business

00:21:25.280 to partner, to work with communities on a meaningful, equitable level in terms of understanding

00:21:30.780 and sharing some of the challenges, the risks, the financing, but even the partnerships.

00:21:35.000 If that's not possible, looking for sustainable development as opposed to just managing communities

00:21:41.360 and their expectations, but looking for what are the outcomes?

00:21:44.200 How do we ensure that, you know, even ultimately the lives of Indigenous people are better once 0.99

00:21:49.440 this development moves on, that they've built enough capacity, sustainable development that

00:21:52.880 they can diversify and into different economies and industries are asking those questions.

00:21:58.160 You know, government are asking those things and starting to develop policies and procurement

00:22:02.540 and relationships where that's an accountability and a deliverable.

00:22:06.900 And it's exciting how that's changing.

00:22:08.820 And, you know, we, a lot of people involved in the industry think we don't talk about that

00:22:13.040 enough. We don't celebrate that.

00:22:14.440 We don't reward that type of sentiment and attitude because that's the sentiment and attitude

00:22:19.080 that builds partnership and relationship that ensures there's a lasting and a deep impact

00:22:24.740 to these relationships and partnerships.

00:22:27.120 Well, yeah. And having skilled participants, I mean, it's an asset in any industry.

00:22:31.280 And if they're close to where you're working, you can't beat that.

00:22:34.380 I mean, even just on a dollars and cents business case, it makes sense to train up people

00:22:39.000 and get them invested and wanting to be a part of the project.

00:22:41.900 And you have a great local resource of people to help with those things.

00:22:45.340 It's unfortunate. Like I worked in the Arctic for a number of years back when it was thought

00:22:49.720 that the McKenzie Valley pipeline was still going to happen.

00:22:52.520 And there was a lot of investment though, up there in the college up that way and training

00:22:57.620 people from everything from production accounting to welding, you know, in anticipation.

00:23:02.600 And that didn't happen, but those are still skills that the industry brought to people up

00:23:06.780 there that they wouldn't have been able to get otherwise.

00:23:09.140 And as you said, they could diversify some of those skills they could take out into other

00:23:13.120 industries, even if the pipeline didn't make it.

00:23:15.140 And then, you know, I imagine these sorts of developments in other communities can lead

00:23:18.860 to that sort of broadening, I guess, of, of enterprise and skills.

00:23:22.520 Absolutely. It's really exciting to be part of conversations where industry is kind of moving

00:23:28.900 past just the business need, the project need and realizing, yes, there's a considerable value

00:23:34.600 in investing in these skills and the education life skills, you know, and achieving, you know,

00:23:41.440 measures or means of socioeconomic reconciliation.

00:23:44.320 So getting people much more engaged in terms of their opportunities, diversifying skill sets

00:23:47.840 so they can do all sorts of things.

00:23:49.580 And these investments are happening and industry is far less, I think, you know, I don't know

00:23:55.880 if it's disappointed, but they're far less understanding that, yes, this is how you do business.

00:24:01.300 We're going to train people from, I think, from a more altruistic perspective in terms

00:24:06.880 of its greater impact to economy and industry.

00:24:10.040 And and but ultimately be serves the business that's that's wonderful as well, too.

00:24:14.180 And there's people that can do these things and they can transfer those skills to other areas,

00:24:18.220 other resource development, other other economies, administration, leadership.

00:24:22.220 All those those skills certainly transcend specific industries and they're certainly applicable.

00:24:27.800 And so, yeah, it's really exciting what's happening.

00:24:31.160 Yeah. And your group is giving a platform to, you know, different engaged voices throughout

00:24:36.000 the community in general to give that different perspective.

00:24:38.900 I see a piece by Chief Crystal Smith on, you know, saying First Nations want an energy

00:24:43.600 future, not eco-colonialism, you know, a bit of a loaded title.

00:24:46.700 But, well, we see the colonialism word thrown out in opposition to development all the time.

00:24:52.280 And then this is kind of turning it around.

00:24:53.720 Well, hang on, you know, you foreign anti-industry groups aren't necessarily looking out for the

00:24:59.420 local people's interest as well.

00:25:00.780 It's sort of a different sort of patronizing colonialism going on out there.

00:25:04.440 Absolutely.

00:25:05.220 Like and she's an excellent example.

00:25:07.300 And a wonderful champion for, you know, describing, you know, yes, maybe there's some aspects of

00:25:13.740 interest that align, but it's typically just the frustration.

00:25:18.680 It doesn't align with the with the goals of the community.

00:25:21.860 A hundred percent goals want to participate.

00:25:23.820 They want to develop.

00:25:24.420 They want to self-determine.

00:25:25.280 They want to be autonomous.

00:25:26.080 And, you know, this type of active activism doesn't align with that.

00:25:29.860 It doesn't it doesn't contemplate what if what is moving forward look like and what is it moving

00:25:35.400 forward look like with communities, which I think by and far are the goals of community,

00:25:39.620 you know, to be able to make the decisions, resource development, yes or no, and to be empowered

00:25:44.200 to do so.

00:25:44.940 And she is an incredible spokesperson for that and its impact on our community and making

00:25:50.520 those decisions.

00:25:51.640 And so, yeah, that's that's changing.

00:25:54.180 It needs to change.

00:25:54.880 It needs to change even further as we build out communities, their sovereignty, their

00:25:58.540 independence, their autonomy.

00:26:00.460 They're, you know, incredible economic developers and they want to do that and they want to

00:26:04.900 develop on, you know, our terms and in true spirit of partnership.

00:26:09.120 And yeah, and more of that needs to happen.

00:26:12.200 We need to talk about the things that where it's happening and create a new standard in

00:26:16.540 terms of what the international community or even just national communities sees as

00:26:21.660 indigenous sentiment and practicality and pragmatism in resource development.

00:26:27.240 Yeah.

00:26:27.820 So with your organization, I mean, you're bringing light to a lot of issues.

00:26:31.080 You're giving a platform, as I said, I see other categories.

00:26:34.700 You've got research available and other things such as that that you guys have been taking

00:26:38.800 part in.

00:26:39.780 Absolutely.

00:26:40.480 Yes.

00:26:40.800 We want to, you know, as opposed to we don't want to be an organization that pounds tables

00:26:44.740 or talk about reparations or anything like that.

00:26:47.140 We want to talk about and then use the research to support that.

00:26:50.800 So we built it off that through surveys and through understanding data, through economic

00:26:54.840 impact, you know, different, you know, different policies and legislation.

00:26:59.860 So we want to look at those and say, OK, what's, you know, what's the true impact, economic

00:27:04.080 impact if we would go this way in terms of regulatory, in terms of UNDRIP, in terms of, you

00:27:08.000 know, emissions intensity, cap production, you know, understand those things and in research

00:27:14.480 to do that.

00:27:15.220 And so, yeah, we certainly have the capacity, want to want to use that data and then understand

00:27:21.660 and make informed choices in terms of development and and the policies that either support or

00:27:28.260 constrain development.

00:27:30.060 Yeah, and we've talked a lot about oil and gas and LNG, but I know as well, you talk

00:27:35.080 about other resource industries, forestry and mining, which, again, are very large industries

00:27:39.700 that can have some some serious impacts if done incorrectly, but can have some serious

00:27:43.780 benefits if partnered correctly.

00:27:46.340 So, I mean, you know, those kind of get lost in the mix sometimes, but there's a lot of

00:27:49.940 potential for communities in both of those industries.

00:27:51.900 Oh, absolutely.

00:27:53.400 And in addition, like we talk about fisheries as well, too, and supporting some of the West

00:27:57.200 Coast, you know, Indigenous communities and their fishery initiatives and fish farming and 1.00

00:28:02.060 stuff like that.

00:28:02.700 And, you know, there's certain policy and permitting and regulatory issues and hoping for reform that

00:28:07.920 understands those, you know, if we were to transition or if there's issues of sustainability,

00:28:12.240 let's understand the economic impact aspect of those.

00:28:14.740 You know, similar with mining and forestry, you know, what does Indigenous stewardship and

00:28:21.400 participation and sustainability look like?

00:28:25.020 You know, and there's certainly a lot of synergy in terms of participation and sentiment in the

00:28:30.300 different industries.

00:28:31.140 And, yeah, we're talking much more and more and more about the different aspects in those

00:28:35.520 industry, right?

00:28:36.260 And so, you know, the life cycle of a mining project and development and operations and

00:28:42.000 reclamation and what's the great examples in there and the worker participation and business

00:28:46.040 participation in there.

00:28:47.080 Similar with forestry, what is sustainability and stewardship from an Indigenous perspective,

00:28:52.320 land rights and forest management practices?

00:28:55.200 And, yeah, we're diving into all the sectors to really understand, you know, what's really

00:29:00.760 working.

00:29:01.260 Let's celebrate and talk that and share that across all the industries.

00:29:04.020 And then what's not working?

00:29:05.400 We work practically, you know, with government and industry.

00:29:07.860 We, you know, again, we're not we're nonpartisan.

00:29:11.160 We don't really want to be political.

00:29:12.760 We want to be advocates, but advocates with experience, lived experience and substance through

00:29:19.040 the research.

00:29:20.080 And so and to inform conversations, good conversation, meaningful conversations.

00:29:24.940 Well, excellent.

00:29:25.960 Your site's a great resource.

00:29:27.900 And I really like that positive messaging you guys are doing.

00:29:30.600 And again, I really appreciate you coming on to talk to us about it.

00:29:33.620 So where can people find more information about what you've been doing and if they wanted

00:29:37.920 to take part or just research some things or reach out to you?

00:29:41.420 Absolutely.

00:29:42.080 Our newly launched website is a great resource.

00:29:45.580 And we're looking for people to sign up as members.

00:29:48.040 And, you know, we represent Indigenous workers in business.

00:29:51.080 Absolutely.

00:29:51.820 Please sign up as such so we can understand, you know, the impacts and your needs more.

00:29:56.560 But even non-Indigenous and just the general community to support what we're doing and how

00:30:00.440 we're doing.

00:30:00.800 And, you know, we have we're active on all social media streams, quite active and in

00:30:06.380 LinkedIn, Twitter, Facebook, you know, even Instagram.

00:30:10.020 And so follow the activities like and share if you see it.

00:30:14.400 We're finding more people are much more comfortable as they start to see our messaging.

00:30:18.640 It's positive.

00:30:19.820 It's objective.

00:30:21.060 We don't like to polarize.

00:30:22.580 We don't want to start fights.

00:30:23.960 You know, we don't want to do that.

00:30:25.100 We want to be very practical in application and and do it in a good, meaningful way.

00:30:29.520 And so, yeah, direct them to the to the network, direct them to the website.

00:30:34.100 Please sign up.

00:30:35.400 And then, you know, so we can understand all these aspects even further and then kind of

00:30:40.580 build that following and then follow our social media channels.

00:30:44.040 Excellent.

00:30:44.320 Well, thank you one more time for joining us then, John.

00:30:47.060 And I hope we get to talk again soon.

00:30:49.220 We'll talk about some of those partnerships and successes.

00:30:51.520 Absolutely.

00:30:52.020 My pleasure, Corey.

00:30:52.820 Thanks for having me.

00:30:54.600 Thank you.

00:30:55.480 So that was John Digelazy, executive director of the Indigenous Resource Network.

00:31:00.520 Yeah, that was a great chat.

00:31:01.980 And like I said, you know, just talking about things positively.

00:31:04.300 There are different points of view.

00:31:05.460 And I like how he's staying out of the partisanship.

00:31:07.520 Hey, I'm as partisan as they get.

00:31:08.920 You know, I make my noise.

00:31:09.860 I make my racket.

00:31:10.480 That's my job.

00:31:11.560 But if you're looking to develop, stay out of the partisan mire.

00:31:14.960 That's a whole different ballpark.

00:31:16.940 And you keep your eye on the prize.

00:31:19.500 And something, you know, the comments have gone by, a lot of them.

00:31:23.120 And somebody talking about how the partnerships, there we are, collaborations improved over the years.

00:31:28.880 It's not new.

00:31:30.200 Maybe it wasn't as good yet.

00:31:31.160 But, you know, that's what I mean, it's evolving.

00:31:32.920 And that's why I mentioned, you know, 30 years ago when, unfortunately, really what the partnerships meant was not,

00:31:37.660 the word partnership wasn't even used.

00:31:39.920 It was tokenism.

00:31:40.840 You just cut a check to somebody and work in the area and then take off.

00:31:44.080 And then later it got a little better where you'd hire some folks, you'd bring them in on the project,

00:31:49.420 you have monitors, you have, but again, it's more with the view of we're going to be here,

00:31:53.760 we're going to do this, and then we're just going to leave.

00:31:56.060 The vision now, what I'm getting, what I'm seeing is fully invested, looking at the long term,

00:32:02.480 having these indigenous businesses blossoming and staying in the area, diversifying.

00:32:07.940 And that's a whole, you know, that's investing the citizens in the area into the project itself.

00:32:12.960 And I can't think of a better way to invest if you want to get these done.

00:32:16.600 Look how hard it is getting major projects done right now.

00:32:19.820 And these eco-activists who pretend to speak for everybody in these areas, and we know they don't always do that.

00:32:26.160 And if you've got local people invested in those projects, maybe they'll go out to the blockade and speak to some of the eco-activists

00:32:33.120 and make them realize, guys, you're blocking our economic development, this isn't working for us.

00:32:38.080 And, you know, some of the other patronizing talk, we see it out of Hollywood, we see it out of some of these celebrities,

00:32:44.560 again, opposing things like the coastal gas link pipeline and, you know, initiatives such as that.

00:32:49.880 And they speak as if they're speaking on behalf of the indigenous communities.

00:32:53.060 I'm sure they represent the view of some of them.

00:32:55.420 But again, that's what must be so frustrating and insulting is people talking as if everybody holds the same view in these communities.

00:33:01.800 No, not at all.

00:33:03.400 There's a diversity of view just like anywhere else.

00:33:06.240 And so this group's, you know, representing an ambitious, proactive, and positive.

00:33:12.320 As I said, I'm always cranky and negative.

00:33:14.640 Let's have something positive on.

00:33:16.360 And that's what these guys are offering.

00:33:17.740 So check them out, indigenousresourcenetwork.ca.

00:33:20.780 There's a lot there, guys, and a lot to cover.

00:33:23.840 All right.

00:33:24.420 So let's talk about proactive.

00:33:26.100 You know, something that, you know, I'm going to turn the page a little.

00:33:28.180 I'm going to talk about what Dave brought up with the Toronto banning two-stroke engines, lawnmowers,

00:33:33.360 who knows what else, weed whackers, I imagine, chainsaws. 0.99

00:33:36.520 I couldn't imagine working in the bush with an electric chainsaw.

00:33:39.420 I don't think that's going to be that great.

00:33:41.980 But I want to talk about proactive.

00:33:44.180 I've got a beat-up old lawnmower home.

00:33:45.920 I've got an acreage.

00:33:46.900 Okay, a plug-in electric mower, yeah, it's just not going to happen in my place.

00:33:50.480 I need to, I like the push behind mower because I got a lot of rolling little spots to get into,

00:33:55.300 and a ride-on mower would be difficult and next to useless for me.

00:33:59.980 And I can use the exercise.

00:34:01.600 But when that old thing dies, I'm probably going to buy one of those rechargeable electric lawnmowers.

00:34:07.940 Not because the government's mandating it for me, though, and not because, you know, they're going to ban my type of lawnmower in my area.

00:34:16.520 I'm in an acreage.

00:34:17.160 We're not there yet.

00:34:18.260 But it's because it looks practical, and the prices have gotten reasonable, and the charge times of these things has gotten to the point where,

00:34:24.860 you know what, I think that'll work for me.

00:34:27.180 But that's the only way to change people's behaviors, not through banning the use of things.

00:34:32.440 You've got to come up with a product that's better than the last one first.

00:34:37.080 Then people will switch.

00:34:38.620 The same with the leaf blowers.

00:34:39.860 I've got a, yeah, I've got one of those leaf blowers.

00:34:41.460 And some of the baloney that's come from the environmentalists when it came to that, there was some crap, and they published that crap.

00:34:47.920 And I called them out.

00:34:48.840 Not enough people did, but some did, where they said, I believe it was like one tank from a gas leaf blower gives the equivalent of greenhouse gases out of a Ford F-150 driving from California to Alaska.

00:35:00.120 Where do you guys come up with that garbage?

00:35:03.120 What, two liters of fuel somehow makes as much emissions as a pickup truck that would have burned hundreds and hundreds of them going all the way to Alaska?

00:35:10.220 That's ridiculous.

00:35:11.060 It's obscene, but that's the crap these guys put out there.

00:35:15.160 Leaf blowers are loud.

00:35:16.840 They're dusty.

00:35:17.760 They make a mess.

00:35:19.180 But they've got a use.

00:35:20.520 They've got a use for landscapers.

00:35:21.640 They've got some people clear snow with them, things like that.

00:35:24.080 Once the electric ones get better, companies and individuals will switch.

00:35:28.560 Just leave it alone.

00:35:30.180 Don't ban them.

00:35:31.140 Don't make the ones they have already useless, you know, and illegal.

00:35:36.100 Boy, contraband leaf blowers.

00:35:37.680 What a world we're getting into.

00:35:39.340 But that's what we're at.

00:35:42.000 So Toronto's just, no, we're going to move.

00:35:43.460 We're going to ban these things because Toronto's not crappy enough, right?

00:35:47.680 You know, let them have them.

00:35:49.040 So, I mean, they've got, you know, Olivia Chow is their mayor now, and Justin Trudeau's been doing little cartwheels.

00:35:56.780 He's really happy about working together on her, with her, on turning Toronto into the woke paradise he envisions.

00:36:03.940 You know, maybe it's just time to accelerate the deterioration.

00:36:07.480 Let's stop trying to put the fires out and start maybe adding a little more fuel to them then.

00:36:14.460 Maybe that's what it's got to take.

00:36:15.700 We've got to bottom out.

00:36:16.500 It's got to get worse before it can get better.

00:36:20.240 You know, look at this crap.

00:36:21.340 Now, here's one of the stories out, you know, the budget officer, and it doesn't seem to matter with the budget officer.

00:36:26.420 This is a, credit where due in this office, the budget officer seems to be, parliamentary budget officer is being pretty independent and runs scathing reports on the government.

00:36:35.960 Because, of course, the government's budget and finances are just a catastrophe.

00:36:40.720 But looking in this, it wants the fine print on the subsidies given to Volkswagen and Stellantis for these battery factories.

00:36:48.620 And that was a story in the Standard recently, too.

00:36:50.680 That the cost, the subsidies that are going into these battery factories are going to be more than the entire auto manufacturing sector in Canada generates in a year.

00:37:02.720 That's just the subsidies for these batteries.

00:37:04.800 It's insane.

00:37:06.880 And the parliamentary budget officer is saying, I require this information, and I'm entitled to free and timely access.

00:37:12.100 So it sounds like it's already getting difficulty getting the information.

00:37:15.000 The government's already covering up their own crap.

00:37:16.340 Of course, once they threw those subsidies into it, the price went up just almost immediately afterwards.

00:37:23.260 They blew their budget before the budget got out of the gates.

00:37:26.080 So, yeah, we've got a boondoggle of epic proportions that's going to come from these battery factories.

00:37:32.780 I promise you that.

00:37:33.920 It's going to be a disaster.

00:37:36.360 Again, if it's feasible, it will come.

00:37:39.820 Battery technology has gotten a lot better.

00:37:41.960 That's why we've got those battery-powered bikes, you know, battery assist that people take around.

00:37:45.480 And you've even got stubborn guys like me saying he's going to get a battery lawnmower when his gas one gives out.

00:37:51.360 But you've got to give it time.

00:37:52.820 You can't force it.

00:37:53.660 And that's what the government's trying to do under Trudeau and his insane obsession with climate change is trying to do with this battery crap.

00:38:00.560 It's going to be just money poured into a black hole.

00:38:03.400 And I assure you, within 10 years, these things are going to be closed.

00:38:07.200 And his E-sharp on the commenter saying that these battery plants won't produce the jobs that the government says it will either.

00:38:11.760 No, it won't.

00:38:12.860 And somebody calced it out.

00:38:14.040 I think it was the Taxpayers Federation or something like that.

00:38:16.040 The jobs are going to work out to something like $5 million a job.

00:38:21.300 Come on, you guys.

00:38:22.900 If the goal is job creation, that's a really terrible, terrible number on doing it.

00:38:29.160 Let's talk about some more government idiocy.

00:38:30.920 There's never a short supply for me to go on.

00:38:33.700 Yes, and this isn't surprising because I've pointed this out online a lot because I like rubbing their noses in it a bit.

00:38:38.720 The government looks like they're going to censor Tommy Douglas.

00:38:42.580 Yes, they've noticed.

00:38:43.800 They've noticed.

00:38:44.340 This has always been there.

00:38:45.200 It's always been in the wide open, but the left likes to quietly not talk about it.

00:38:48.600 Yes, he's the NDP founder.

00:38:50.940 I mean, it was the CCF when he founded it, but that's that Prairie Socialist Party.

00:38:55.260 He was a Saskatchewan premier, but he also was a strong supporter of eugenics.

00:39:00.640 And yes, that's the policy of sterilizing what people would see as the undesirables and such. 0.98

00:39:06.520 And Tommy Douglas talked about how we should sterilize people with a low mental rating.

00:39:11.820 And, you know, moral standards below normal who were delinquent.

00:39:16.180 He was talking about even, yeah, he talked about unwed mothers being, you know, how they're so subject to social disease and to refer to them as if being prostitutes.

00:39:26.240 Now, those are views he held in the 30s and those were the views of the times.

00:39:31.020 But the cancel crowd doesn't care.

00:39:35.000 But now they're starting to cancel their own.

00:39:37.240 Now they're starting to get after their own.

00:39:38.980 Tommy Douglas, St. Tommy Douglas.

00:39:41.020 He's the man that the CBC said was the greatest Canadian of all time.

00:39:45.380 If you remember that game show crap they did some years ago on our dime.

00:39:49.300 Well, it sounds like they're going to cancel him because in the 30s he held some pretty gnarly views that, well, aren't acceptable today.

00:39:57.300 Maybe when they cancel enough of their own, tear down enough of their own statues, rename enough schools and streets.

00:40:04.400 I know I'm dreaming.

00:40:05.620 But I like to think maybe they'll realize just how damn stupid they are.

00:40:09.060 Probably not, though.

00:40:10.080 Probably not.

00:40:10.720 We'll just keep erasing history, keep pretending that everybody is evil, everybody's nasty, and just shutting down everything when we can.

00:40:20.480 Let's see.

00:40:21.400 Yeah, I was mentioning earlier, David, the port worker strike.

00:40:24.240 It's on again.

00:40:25.840 Speaking of unions, speaking of dollars, this is bad, guys.

00:40:29.860 It's going on for weeks.

00:40:31.180 Now, the West Coast port is huge and it's responsible for a whole lot of our goods coming in here.

00:40:35.560 We've got to get all our cheap Chinese-made Walmart stuff and dollar store products from somewhere.

00:40:40.360 And they come from that port in Vancouver.

00:40:43.380 People will complain about, you know, here's one of the areas where it gets complicated.

00:40:46.180 A lot of people say, we've got to stop trade with China.

00:40:48.040 But they're the same people who complain about the price of everything's going up.

00:40:51.700 We do have a complicated, difficult thing to deal with here.

00:40:53.940 Because, yes, we could get out of it.

00:40:56.700 But, you know, the mom and pop manufacturers and stores on the corners aren't going to be able to give you those sorts of consumer products that the Chinese manufacturers do. 0.86

00:41:04.840 We're going to get a bit of a taste of that while all these products get bound up on the West Coast port right now.

00:41:09.740 But we've got to start rethinking what these ports are.

00:41:15.300 Canada, I believe, there was a listing of, like, hundreds and hundreds of ports around the world.

00:41:18.400 And the West Coast port in Vancouver was, like, the second-to-last inefficiency.

00:41:22.580 It's terrible.

00:41:23.540 It's terrible.

00:41:24.340 It's slow.

00:41:24.880 It's expensive.

00:41:25.460 And, of course, everything that goes through there, with it being inefficient, adds to the cost of your consumer product down the line.

00:41:32.080 And what's part of the problem?

00:41:33.360 It's the bloody union.

00:41:34.700 It's outright the union, guys.

00:41:36.440 And that this union of longshoremen, I always liked those cool little blue beanies they'd wear traditionally.

00:41:42.520 I used to wear those in the oil field.

00:41:43.640 But aside from that, they're good for nothing.

00:41:45.180 Guys, they're forklift operators.

00:41:46.940 They're warehouse managers.

00:41:48.920 And they're making $130,000 a year on average each.

00:41:52.680 And they've got the gall to strike.

00:41:54.760 And then when a settlement was actually reached, the union bypassed its own members and said,

00:41:58.840 No, that's not good enough.

00:41:59.960 Go back out onto the picket line.

00:42:02.640 But, you see, it's not just the dollar and cents they're protesting against.

00:42:05.120 That's not just what they're striking against.

00:42:07.040 They're striking against automation.

00:42:10.300 Yeah.

00:42:11.080 Think about that.

00:42:12.160 This is like the old milkman who used to have the horse and wagon delivering your milk,

00:42:17.780 trying to ban the advent of gasoline vehicles coming and putting them out of business.

00:42:22.900 It doesn't work.

00:42:23.680 You can't fight automation, advancement, and development forever.

00:42:27.520 And it's going to cost the whole country.

00:42:29.360 Not just in this strike, but in their managing to hinder the natural evolution of that port.

00:42:37.000 Keep that port down in the bottom two or three in efficiency around the world.

00:42:42.780 And as they do that, we will pay a premium on everything we bring into this country.

00:42:48.900 Or everything we export.

00:42:50.300 Can't forget that either.

00:42:51.240 There's a lot of products trying to get out.

00:42:54.340 And they're getting backed up.

00:42:56.020 And that harms the industries that are trying to export.

00:42:58.280 This is serious, serious stuff.

00:42:59.900 It sounds like even the liberals, even the liberals realize this.

00:43:03.320 The old Seamus O'Reilly, not our brightest star on Parliament Hill there.

00:43:07.400 But he's talking tough because they realize we've got to get this going.

00:43:10.840 And that's going to be interesting too.

00:43:12.340 So Jagmeet Singh, of course, he's been in bed with the Trudeau government for quite some time now.

00:43:18.660 Shoring him up, holding him up, keeping them in their position.

00:43:22.100 But he's also, of course, very heavily funded and tied with organized labor.

00:43:28.060 Now, if Trudeau brings in, and I suspect he's going to, they have to.

00:43:31.180 The economic cost is too high.

00:43:32.800 The impasse has gone on too long.

00:43:34.360 They're going to legislate these guys back to work.

00:43:36.960 They're going to say that's enough.

00:43:39.560 Reagan already said it's an illegal strike.

00:43:41.740 But what's old Jagmeet going to do?

00:43:43.420 What are you going to do, Jagmeet?

00:43:44.580 He, he's just getting weaker and weaker every time he props up the Trudeau government.

00:43:50.140 It's similar to what the Chinese interference issue and everything.

00:43:53.260 Singh will stand there and talk about how bad it is and how bad those Trudeaus have been. 0.70

00:43:56.660 Or those liberals and the Trudeaus.

00:43:59.780 But he won't do anything about it.

00:44:01.360 He's the linchpin, guys.

00:44:02.940 He's the one holding them up.

00:44:05.000 That government can be taken down or at least taken to task any time.

00:44:09.080 If Jagmeet Singh could find his courage, find his principles, and actually be a leader for the first time in his life.

00:44:16.260 But we'll see if this is going to be enough.

00:44:18.400 When the government turns on your precious organized labor.

00:44:22.000 When the government you're shoring up.

00:44:24.300 When the man who's the prime minister who you cuddled to sleep every night is forcing those workers back onto the docks.

00:44:31.780 Are you still going to support them, Mr. Singh?

00:44:34.200 Are you still going to get behind them?

00:44:35.920 I got a feeling those union dollar donations might start drying up a little, might they?

00:44:41.640 But, I mean, this is going to cost.

00:44:42.980 I mean, who knows what the numbers.

00:44:44.320 But they're talking about some of the backlog building up on the West Coast now taking into October to get out to us.

00:44:51.040 And we've got these discussions.

00:44:53.020 Everybody's worked up about cost of living.

00:44:54.520 I mean, they're celebrating.

00:44:55.340 Hey, look, we've hiked interest rates enough.

00:44:58.000 And we've pounded the economy hard enough that inflation slowed down.

00:45:02.080 Good.

00:45:02.660 On everything.

00:45:04.000 Except food.

00:45:04.840 And food's still shooting through the roof.

00:45:07.220 Well, again, that ties into a whole lot of things.

00:45:10.800 And supply chains are part of them.

00:45:12.880 Unions are a part of it.

00:45:13.960 Getting it to the port.

00:45:14.920 Or, of course, I won't go down that rabbit hole today.

00:45:18.740 But supply management, one of my favorite things I like to beat on is costing you all.

00:45:23.240 Is the government ever seriously going to take on our cost of living problems?

00:45:26.500 Are they ever really going to worry about the price of our foods?

00:45:29.460 I don't know.

00:45:30.360 But, you know, Justin Trudeau, I mean, how far a supply chain to him is walking into the kitchen at night and pouring his own bowl of cereal once rather than having the chef do it because they're in bed already.

00:45:41.360 He doesn't understand what the challenges are for people on a budget.

00:45:44.640 And he doesn't understand how the food gets from the farm to his table after his chef has prepared it for him.

00:45:52.280 So, yeah, I don't hold a hell of a lot of hope that he's going to make it better any time in the near future.

00:45:56.340 All right.

00:45:56.540 Let's talk about somebody who does know about supply chains and does know about how the food comes from the farms and gets on your table.

00:46:03.300 And that is Jim Buzicum of Marketplace there.

00:46:08.660 He's going to tell us about what's going on out there.

00:46:10.820 Hi, Jim.

00:46:11.140 How are you doing?

00:46:12.020 Hey, good, Corey.

00:46:12.820 How are you doing?

00:46:13.660 Very good.

00:46:14.860 Glad to have you in today.

00:46:16.520 I just wanted to get a rant out of my system on some of these things.

00:46:19.800 But that's just more on the consumer level.

00:46:22.380 You represent the producer level.

00:46:24.980 And there's quite a bit going on out there.

00:46:27.380 Yeah, I could join on that rant.

00:46:28.960 And you're talking about the port closures and the strikes.

00:46:33.780 And, yeah, it's a big deal on the consumer goods that you buy in from China and so on.

00:46:39.440 But big deal on exports.

00:46:42.000 I mean, look at our country.

00:46:43.180 35 million people.

00:46:44.780 Look at all the resources that we're trying to export.

00:46:47.820 I'm in the ag sector and there's product going out daily.

00:46:51.680 And it's backing up.

00:46:53.420 It's not just a matter of, first of all, it's not open.

00:46:56.920 But it's not a matter of just being open and just everyone's back to normal again.

00:47:01.020 We've got to catch up.

00:47:02.080 We need to meet our contract requirements, our sales requirements to foreign buyers.

00:47:08.840 And it's a mess right now.

00:47:11.300 On top of everything else that's happened over the last few years, we now are dealing with that as well.

00:47:16.820 So I understand what you're talking about there just all too well.

00:47:21.100 Well, it's large commodities and volumes of it that need to move.

00:47:25.400 And the ports are pretty essential to it.

00:47:28.740 Getting to that world market aspect, things kind of beyond our local control, though.

00:47:32.600 But, I mean, they're really impacting commodity prices.

00:47:35.120 The Russia-Ukraine agreements right now are having an impact.

00:47:39.140 Yeah, so Russia definitely is making sure that grain corridor is not open, as I'm sure your listeners are aware of, that Odessa port was bombed yesterday, last night, and damaged to a number of grain terminals there.

00:47:56.240 So there's certainly product not going to go out of that port, albeit there is product moving inland.

00:48:04.980 It's a bit of a first to think that Ukraine is just exporting to starving countries, quote-unquote starving countries.

00:48:12.020 Most of their grain is going to the best buyer that they can find, not unlike anyone else, for that matter.

00:48:18.560 And that goes into Western Europe quite easily.

00:48:21.560 They have a lot of land border with Western Europe, so there's a lot of product going that way.

00:48:26.240 Yeah, so it's possible that some other countries do have to turn to Canada or the United States or other exporting countries to buy some of their products.

00:48:36.900 We haven't really seen it in a big way yet.

00:48:38.840 The Canadian prices are just, in fact, much too high.

00:48:42.360 We've been struggling with consecutive droughts in Western Canada.

00:48:47.600 We have high price expectations at the farm gate.

00:48:51.440 I guess the farmers do.

00:48:52.360 I guess that's what I mean with that.

00:48:53.400 And so we're not all that competitive into some of those markets that maybe the Black Sea region would normally go to, but it could come if the war intensifies and more damages are done.

00:49:07.320 So we'll have to see.

00:49:08.520 And then maybe I'll just carry right into the drought situation in Western Canada.

00:49:16.280 It's, again, it's a severe drought across Alberta and Saskatchewan.

00:49:22.120 There's areas that have received some pretty good rain, so we're going to for sure have some production.

00:49:26.260 But it's probably 70, 80% of normal, which, you know, maybe sounds pretty good yet.

00:49:32.720 You'll still have quite a bit of grain, but 20% less of some of these commodities.

00:49:37.180 And you're also talking about high costs of food.

00:49:40.100 This is not going to help bring down the cost of food to consumers.

00:49:44.080 We're looking at tighter supplies again for another year in Canada.

00:49:49.980 Pretty healthy export market if this port ever gets figured out, and it will.

00:49:55.300 Yeah.

00:49:55.760 And, you know, price expectations are high at the farm gate.

00:49:59.220 So I'm sure food prices will stay high as well.

00:50:02.340 Well, that's it.

00:50:02.920 I mean, I guess it's kind of the only consolation for a producer is a high price for the commodity they're producing,

00:50:07.300 even if the drought's been limiting their yield.

00:50:09.580 But it's still that transfers down to a tougher time for the consumer in the end.

00:50:14.520 Yeah, exactly.

00:50:15.760 So, excellent.

00:50:17.620 So I'll leave that with you, Corey.

00:50:20.040 Okay, I'll leave you back to watching those numbers and seeing what's coming.

00:50:24.380 It's frustrating with the things that are beyond our control, but we do everything we can.

00:50:28.100 All right, take care.

00:50:28.900 Thank you.

00:50:29.500 Thanks, Jim.

00:50:30.260 So yeah, that was Jim Buzicom of Marketplace Commodities, guys, and that's his job.

00:50:34.880 He looks at those things.

00:50:35.760 He looks at those trends.

00:50:36.740 If you're a producer, you're in that industry, you're in that business, those are the guys to speak to,

00:50:42.480 to try and maximize your business like any other one, Marketplace Commodities.

00:50:46.080 They know their stuff, and they can always give you a good rundown on what's happening.

00:50:50.720 I mean, it is such a complicated field in general, right?

00:50:53.580 Like, as I was talking about, supply chains, there's more to it than just what's produced here and sold locally.

00:50:59.400 I mean, you've got different markets, different demand.

00:51:01.900 What are you trying to get out to in different areas, things like that?

00:51:04.700 And again, it's a big part of our economy in general in Canada, and it's looking kind of scary in some ways.

00:51:13.380 You know, we've got a lot going on out there.

00:51:16.520 Nigel Hannaford, our opinion editor, wrote a fantastic piece just recently, again, on food prices.

00:51:21.300 And he talks a little bit, too, about people with how, you know, we're kind of spoiled over here, guys.

00:51:26.560 And that's what this port shutdown is going to let us know a little about, too.

00:51:30.540 You know, where do you think you're getting those tulips in summer or in spring from?

00:51:34.400 Well, they're getting shipped fast from Amsterdam, guys.

00:51:37.460 It's coming over here from those areas. 0.90

00:51:39.840 And, you know, where are you getting those avocados in January?

00:51:42.500 Well, those are coming up from Mexico.

00:51:43.840 And if you really are an environmentalist, you might want to start looking at eating a little more locally.

00:51:49.100 But that doesn't seem to have stopped the left when they want their avocado toast.

00:51:53.740 But when the price of the avocado quadruples, then they start to reevaluate where their source of food is coming from.

00:51:59.620 Then that reality check sort of starts to land home and people start to thinking about these things.

00:52:06.260 And we've got a lot to think about, guys.

00:52:09.440 I'll finish with the other because it's going to tie into next week.

00:52:12.340 I believe I've got Shane Winslawn.

00:52:14.300 He's with Shane Holmes.

00:52:15.160 He's a home builder.

00:52:16.320 And we've got immigration targets.

00:52:18.540 This discussion has happened a lot.

00:52:20.280 The government wants to bring in 500,000 immigrants a year.

00:52:23.260 Now, what we've got going on right now is a pyramid scheme, kind of.

00:52:27.000 We've got people aging.

00:52:28.200 We're demanding more and more from the system.

00:52:30.780 Pensions, health care, all of these things.

00:52:33.420 Meanwhile, the younger demographic is getting smaller as a percentage goes.

00:52:39.020 So the way the government's been feeling that is bringing in loads and loads of immigrants to work and keep contributing into the system to keep that pyramid growing.

00:52:48.160 And, I mean, it's good.

00:52:48.940 We need it.

00:52:49.520 We've got a labor shortage.

00:52:50.640 There's a fantastic skilled immigrants coming from all over.

00:52:53.620 It's good for our economy.

00:52:54.440 It's good for all of us.

00:52:56.060 But we have to have somewhere to put them when they get here.

00:53:01.100 Our housing is not nearly keeping up with the targets on how many people they want to bring in.

00:53:07.160 This is just math.

00:53:08.140 It isn't an opinion on whether having more immigrants or less is a good thing or a bad thing. 0.99

00:53:11.780 It's just saying they need somewhere to live.

00:53:13.740 We're a winter country.

00:53:14.640 What do you expect these people to do when they get here?

00:53:18.080 So I'm going to talk to Shane Wenzel because part of the problem is our governments are in the way and they slow and they hinder and they regulate to death the development and construction of new homes.

00:53:29.400 If we're going to build new homes fast and safely and affordably, we really have to reevaluate all of the handicaps we've been putting on developers and builders in building those places.

00:53:39.860 So I'm looking forward to that discussion because we need to apply a little common sense because we do need to keep bringing people in, but we also need to make sure that we can house people.

00:53:49.020 And plus the people living here right now with the cost of living and rents and homes is way through the roof.

00:53:54.700 And the only way to solve that is increasing supply.

00:53:57.140 Again, that's just math.

00:53:58.740 All right.

00:53:59.020 That's all I got this week.

00:54:00.740 Thanks for tuning in, guys.

00:54:02.480 I think that was a good show.

00:54:03.760 It was really good talking to a couple of those folks on those things.

00:54:07.020 So come in next week.

00:54:08.300 At this time, we'll have a lot more to cover.

00:54:11.280 And yeah, I appreciate you tuning in.

00:54:13.680 I'll see you next week.

00:54:14.240 The current Lethbridge feed grain prices are as follows.

00:54:18.700 Cash barley is steady at $4.35.

00:54:21.260 Feed wheat is also steady at $4.20.

00:54:23.840 And corn is up $5 at $401 per ton.

00:54:27.760 In the milling wheat markets, September Minneapolis futures jumped $0.59 at $7.30,

00:54:33.420 with local hard red spring bid for July movement at $10.50 per bushel.

00:54:37.500 In the oilseeds, nearby canola futures increased $18 at $851.40 per ton,

00:54:45.060 with delivered values for August movement at $19.53 per bushel.

00:54:50.260 In the pulse markets, nearby red lentil prices are trading at $0.34 per pound,

00:54:55.040 and yellow peas remain at $11.50 per bushel.

00:54:59.220 In the cattle markets, August live cattle are lower $0.57.5 at $180.70 per hundredweight.

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Western Standard - July 19, 2023

Cory Morgan Show. Why isn’t COVID killing the unvaccinated

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