Western Standard - Court allows Alberta independence petition signatures to be counted

00:00:00.000 Hey everyone, happy Thursday!

00:00:30.000 um hey it feels like i've been gone for a long time in fact i have i guess uh i missed two shows

00:00:36.500 uh big bosses had to step in and cover for me derek did one show and josh did the other uh

00:00:42.740 haven't had a chance to go back and look at those hope they went well um yeah i was gone for uh just

00:00:48.740 finished my hike i took a couple of weeks off headed off to vancouver and then took a ferry

00:00:54.440 up the coast and went up the Sunshine Coast just past Powell River with three friends and we hiked

00:01:02.940 something called the Sunshine Coast Trail it's an interesting idea not the typical hike that I do

00:01:10.140 you know I'm used to hiking in in remote Jasper Banff Wilmore Wilderness this was definitely did

00:01:18.320 not have that remote feeling to it you know at any given time we were never more than a couple of

00:01:24.020 miles from a quad trail or a logging road encountered a lot of people on the trail that

00:01:29.740 i would call locals you know so we started at one end went all the way to the other end did 135

00:01:34.600 kilometers the trail's famous for its huts there's huts all along the trails evenly spaced about every

00:01:40.880 15 kilometers at high spots uh tin hat hut waltz hut nice little huts where you can um just you

00:01:50.980 know sleep on the sleeping bag upstairs in the huts um but yeah not a not a remote trail because

00:01:58.220 uh like i said easy access by by locals uh on quad i mean it's a weird feeling to hike 15

00:02:04.260 kilometers and at the end of the day you get to a hut and then there's other people that are

00:02:07.660 already there that got there by driving their pickup truck kind of thing but still good to get

00:02:13.180 away and um and i'm not gonna lie like when i cut you know there when i go on long hikes like that

00:02:19.920 I disconnect even though there was some cell service I disconnect I try not to follow what's

00:02:25.560 going on I mean that's the whole purpose for me of going out in the wilderness is to disconnect

00:02:29.440 but I came back here and then we had a 12-hour drive so while we're driving back and taking

00:02:36.160 turns driving had time to log on to the internet and see what's happening and I'm telling you within

00:02:41.200 minutes within minutes I just wanted to turn around and just go back into the wilderness right

00:02:46.940 I mean, what are the first things I saw when I got on the internet coming out of the wilderness?

00:02:54.300 Well, sad stories, right?

00:02:56.100 There's the shootings.

00:02:57.400 What was there last week?

00:02:58.780 Like three or four?

00:02:59.580 By the way, that's a good reminder, okay?

00:03:01.360 So I am disconnected right now.

00:03:03.400 I've had sort of a chance to reconnect with what's going on, but I am disconnected.

00:03:08.760 I'm not fully up to speed on everything that happened.

00:03:11.340 So let's make this your show.

00:03:12.740 You called me today.

00:03:13.900 The number's on the bottom of the screen there.

00:03:16.500 you call me and you tell me what were the big stories last week and let's talk about those

00:03:21.540 big stories but you know like i said when i come out first thing i hear about is uh i don't know

00:03:26.420 was there two or three shootings that went on uh pride was finishing you know one of the first

00:03:31.540 things that come out of the wilderness and i'm seeing uh mark carney doing a pride parade

00:03:35.620 somewhere and getting sprayed with liquids or whatever uh then i saw the videos of trudeau

00:03:41.780 doing a speaking tour in finland uh lecturing fins on how to be finnish and uh and stuff like

00:03:48.180 that so i i just wanted to turn right around when uh but but here i am so all right let's make it

00:03:54.740 about you you guys call in and tell me what you want to talk about but here are some of the things

00:03:58.420 that i did notice this week right that i got on my list of things to talk about um the usmca yesterday

00:04:05.940 by the way i didn't celebrate it but i'll wish it to you guys happy canada day i mean i i honestly

00:04:12.420 uh didn't really celebrate canada day haven't celebrated it for a couple years now

00:04:17.780 um it you know it's one of those things post-covid uh it's one of those things that changed for me

00:04:23.300 covid ruined canada day and other events and post-covid it's never been the same

00:04:28.340 and uh didn't really feel like celebrating it yesterday especially since i just come back and

00:04:32.820 i had a whole bunch of other things to do um but happy canada day if you did celebrate it

00:04:39.380 so um yesterday was july 1st so usmca is on life support we'll talk about that the one thing i

00:04:46.340 learned while i was gone is carney's bailout of the big housing uh the big condo market um

00:04:53.620 signatures can be counted here that's good news the the petition signatures can be counted

00:04:58.500 i was hoping to have a pipeline announcement from uh smith today but we will guess we'll

00:05:04.260 have to wait till 6 p.m for that the hundred dollar energy rebate um and a few other events so

00:05:11.940 uh actually before we get too deep into the show uh you know going to british columbia was an

00:05:19.060 an interesting thing for me i don't go to british columbia often i do cross over into bc when i'm

00:05:25.220 hiking uh along the continental divide but otherwise i don't generally take vacations over

00:05:30.740 to bc i find it uh overly crowded and uh and a little bit too socialist for my taste and

00:05:41.540 i definitely got a heavy dose of socialism while i was gone and and you do get to see

00:05:49.300 in bc like when i've come back and everybody was asking me like what do you think of bc and and i

00:05:53.620 just have one real overarching comment for bc everything in bc is in disrepair like do they not

00:06:01.300 understand the concept of maintenance like everything's in disrepair right we showed up at

00:06:06.340 the like you're driving through the towns as you're driving we went via the southern route because i

00:06:10.900 had to pick up a buddy in uh kimberly so you know we're going through a soyuz and uh grand forks and

00:06:16.500 and places like that and you know Cranston and it like everywhere along the way you see the homes

00:06:25.740 are all in disrepairs the cars are the the lawns are full of beat-up cars all the businesses all

00:06:31.720 the farms all the everything looks just like they don't do maintenance on anything and then we got

00:06:37.440 to the ferry terminal and the ferries like you get on the ferry and those things look ancient man

00:06:42.060 like everything is rusted i had i took a picture one funny picture at one ferry terminal a whole

00:06:47.820 giant section of the parking lot was closed because and it was flagged off and then there

00:06:53.420 was warning signs everywhere dangerous trees and like about 100 yards away were a couple of dead

00:06:58.380 trees so they shut down the whole parking lot in this uh at the ferry terminal because of a

00:07:03.580 potential dead tree that could fall and all i kept thinking is we're in british columbia man like

00:07:09.020 a place once famous for its logging industry and you can't find a logger to go kill that

00:07:13.660 and we've cut not kill the trees already dead can't find a logger to go knock down that one tree

00:07:18.300 took off for 10 days came back and that was one of the things i was looking forward to i thought

00:07:21.900 okay well hopefully on the way back when we go by that ferry terminal that that one tree will

00:07:26.700 be down and they'll have reopened the uh parking lot nope 10 days later parking lot is still closed

00:07:31.660 so you know and and and then the other thing while you're in bc like i'm i'm being critical

00:07:38.220 of british columbia but you know bear with me i mean when i was in bc you almost like every little

00:07:44.300 map we picked up every every street sign everything now is in two languages right you got everything

00:07:50.220 in english but now everything else is not in french or some other language or punjabi or chinese

00:07:56.700 it's in these made up languages right so the they they got they got a translation for everything

00:08:03.500 in the local native tongue and there's like about 15 different languages depending on as you travel

00:08:09.820 through and and i don't know how to read that language and some of the signs to me it's literally

00:08:15.900 like it's made up and it's weird like this this virtue signaling of of literally handing it like

00:08:23.020 it feels like it honestly feels like british colombians at this point are going to hand over

00:08:28.300 everything that they've done for the last 200 years like they feel so guilty that they're

00:08:32.220 going to hand everything over back to the first nations like that's what it feels like when i was

00:08:36.140 there so yeah um i mean the hike was pretty the weather was okay but uh boy am i glad to be back

00:08:44.220 home all right nobody's calling that's fine so let me uh get on to uh in no particular order one of

00:08:53.100 the one of the happiest things i saw when i came back was the announcement that um the signatures

00:09:01.580 for the citizens initiative petition can finally be counted right so just a quick recap um stay

00:09:09.420 free alberta was the petitioner we collected thousands and thousands of signatures but just

00:09:15.900 at the end when we were getting when we're ready to hand him in when mitch sylvester was ready to

00:09:20.300 hand him in there was a case um the the uh six or seven first nations up in northern alberta

00:09:29.340 tried to get the process invalidated were successful in getting the process invalidated

00:09:34.460 and the first judge judge leonard said that she was putting a stay a stop to all of it that

00:09:44.460 elections alberta could receive the signatures but couldn't count them couldn't validate them

00:09:48.860 all right so that was back in uh late april early may and then so immediately after that

00:09:55.740 uh you see on the picture there mitch sylvester and jeff rath who's the lawyer what he's one of

00:10:01.660 the leaders of stay free alberta but he's also one of their lawyers so immediately after that ruling

00:10:07.100 uh stay free alberta filed an appeal so did the government of alberta right so there are several

00:10:13.900 parties that filed an appeal and uh and we just had a partial stay of okay i'll come back to that

00:10:21.020 because i do want to take the callers i got colors on the line uh as usual folks we don't have a

00:10:25.500 fancy switchboard so if you call and it's busy stay on the line John will get

00:10:30.660 to you and give me your name number where you're calling from and what you

00:10:33.480 want to chat about go ahead caller hi good afternoon it's Gordon calling hey

00:10:40.240 Gordon and yeah yeah I'm glad you had a good hike I've done a little hiking in

00:10:45.300 BC myself and but I'm calling about was just in regards to the the announcements

00:10:51.820 going on today with Kearney and Evie in BC all of a sudden becoming very on board with

00:10:58.420 the new proposal with a pipeline to the southern coast.

00:11:04.160 And I know Danielle will make an announcement this afternoon, and I'm sure she'll be joined

00:11:09.600 by Kearney, and it's going to go well.

00:11:11.580 But my point is simply this.

00:11:13.300 I hope people are taking note, and I'm sure they are, of all of a sudden the urgency from

00:11:19.140 the federal government the urgency with bc that all of a sudden they are becoming so cooperative

00:11:26.100 with alberta and our oil industry and getting these projects done and the main reason for that

00:11:32.020 of course they're not fooling anyone it's because of our very real threat of separation

00:11:40.260 they have to take it serious this is not like dealing with quebec quebec they throw a little

00:11:46.580 tantrum once in a while to get a score a few points but this is real and they know it so they

00:11:52.780 have to do what they have to do so so gordon pause for a second gordon stay on the line so

00:11:58.620 are you saying people is it the government that's getting a dose of reality or is it the people that

00:12:03.460 are pushing the government are people getting a dose of reality no it's the government is getting

00:12:09.380 a dose of reality of the seriousness of the alberta separation issue absolutely right yeah people in

00:12:16.980 power know that if alberta goes that's a chunk of tax revenue and the economy and everything else

00:12:23.700 oh it would it would be devastating to the rest of canada if alberta exit it would be absolutely

00:12:31.620 devastating they know it we know it all we all i'm trying to stress is those of us who are in

00:12:37.860 favor separation don't be duped by what's going on and all of a sudden all these canada speeches

00:12:44.340 by carney and oh my we're gonna have this uh united sovereign province within a united canada

00:12:51.720 just yeah no no i i um yeah as i said just early in the show i was hoping that we would have the

00:12:58.740 smith announcement because the deadline for smith to uh propose a project to the major project

00:13:03.840 office was yesterday but i guess she gets a bit of a day uh an extra day because yesterday was july

00:13:08.800 1st she um carney's flying back from vancouver to alberta tonight and they will make a joint

00:13:15.520 announcement about an alberta pipeline at 6 p.m tonight so i guess we'll we'll wait to see

00:13:21.120 but in the meantime if you saw the announcement that carney made yesterday or today i agree right

00:13:27.520 they're they're getting a dose of reality they understand that they got to throw more than just

00:13:31.440 a couple of carrots now they got to pretend to show some real collaboration but hidden in that

00:13:36.560 memo today carney's still pushing his agenda right if you read the memo today um alberta or sorry bc

00:13:44.080 and ottawa agreed to a carbon credit a working carbon credit market and guess who's going to pay

00:13:51.120 for that right we're going to get a pipeline one way or another but they're going to make us pay

00:13:54.640 for it no absolutely it's always that way but but i i just my point was just make sure we stay on

00:14:03.120 track uh with our separation movement you know let's not be fooled and i'm sure we're not people

00:14:08.720 are getting too wise from the way federal government easterners the eastern elites how

00:14:14.000 they operate awesome thank you by the way where'd you call where are you calling from gorge oh i'm

00:14:19.280 from edmonton edmonton awesome and uh you guys had nice weather this week or you're not affected as

00:14:24.240 much as the flooding that we're having down here right we've had a ton of rain buddy i was up uh

00:14:31.440 hiking up in the columbia ice field uh the past weekend and it was cold and raining and snow

00:14:38.720 it was everything typical alberta weather thanks for calling gourd have a great day

00:14:43.600 you bet take care cool bye so uh yeah um by the way uh the flooding down in canaanaskis was

00:14:52.560 impressive i hope everybody that was trapped behind those failed bridges or whatever is okay now

00:14:59.120 um yeah we're getting a lot of rain right now that's uh that's a fact uh so just back to what

00:15:06.800 i was talking about so um so uh the stay free alberta and the government both appeal the the

00:15:13.840 the previous hearing and um and as part of the appeal they immediately asked for a stay

00:15:21.280 so a stay of a stay like it's crazy you you get lost in the in the um in the technicalities but

00:15:28.000 yesterday the judge or earlier this week i think it was on the 30th monday may or tuesday the new

00:15:34.000 the new judge in this one the appeals judge uh judge uh woolley granted a partial stay of the

00:15:42.080 ruling of the from the lower court and she said that uh elections alberta can now go ahead and

00:15:48.880 validate the signatures and count them and publish the number okay so that's good because um

00:15:56.480 you know me personally as you know i had collected 700 signatures and i felt that

00:16:01.840 there was a slap in the face for a judge to simply say that the signatures i collected couldn't be

00:16:10.560 counted like i i thought that was anti-democratic so this judge the appeals judge said no the

00:16:15.920 signatures can at least be counted now the judge will still uh rule on whether um the first nations

00:16:25.360 had the right to stop the this this whole citizens initiative process um so the the interesting

00:16:34.240 thing about all of this is that there's still like a really really really slim hope that the

00:16:41.120 referendum question could be changed i'm not gonna i'm not gonna hold my breath on that one

00:16:45.680 but uh but i'll take this as a partial victory because at least as a citizen

00:16:50.800 part of my voice the fact that we collected signatures can be validated and then there can

00:16:55.200 be a a number published so we'll we'll see how that goes boy the uh the amount of money being

00:17:00.800 spent on on uh on on different law courses and cases in this country is absolutely crazy all

00:17:08.560 right um okay uh so i'll just go down my list so yesterday is uh actually i want now i won't go

00:17:16.720 down the list i want to talk about the ones that that that to me are the most fascinating ones

00:17:20.960 the carney housing bailout right that was another interesting one this week or while i was gone i

00:17:28.640 think it happened last week hopefully derek or some of the others didn't talk about it too too

00:17:32.640 much but let me give you your my take on this one right so in british columbia canada's real estate

00:17:40.160 market canada's real estate market is about 13 of our gdp it's huge like no other country

00:17:48.400 relies it makes real estate part of its gdp to the same extent that we do most other countries

00:17:55.440 are are are putting uh you know are are developing resources they're developing um manufacturing

00:18:03.760 um other service industries and so forth and so forth but in canada one of the top four chunks

00:18:10.640 of our industry of our overall economy is real estate in a country of like 40 million people

00:18:16.560 with huge amounts of land real estate is one of our top uh parts of our gdp why because people

00:18:23.440 speculate all the time and people keep the supply low and the demand high and it's a and our market

00:18:31.280 attracts people from all over the world come here speculate buy land buy property turn around and

00:18:38.160 re-rent it and rent it to canadians real estate has become completely unaffordable for young

00:18:44.800 canadian families especially in markets like toronto and vancouver and montreal it's becoming

00:18:52.000 on afford i mean apparently here in alberta but statistically alberta uh you know edmonton and

00:18:56.480 calgary are still some of the more affordable markets but we know that they're they're going

00:19:00.080 up right and we've had these bubbles year after year we have these huge bubbles because too many

00:19:05.200 people speculate and drive up the prices and so in britain and in recent years in british columbia

00:19:11.920 and in toronto speculators have driven have driven up prices and condo builders developers have built

00:19:19.280 uh a whole bunch of condos and finally the supply and demand side of the equation balanced itself

00:19:25.920 out and there were more condos than there are buyers and so apparently in in uh in in those

00:19:32.560 two more in vancouver alone there was something like 2200 condos sitting unsold brand new condos

00:19:37.840 that have been built that are unsold and rather and and the develop and rather than let the

00:19:44.080 developers the speculators almost the leeches in this instance rather than let them take it on the

00:19:50.640 nose so you you you've speculated you built the condo you drove the price up and now it's not

00:19:56.320 selling what should happen you sell it at a loss okay that's what call that's what speculating is

00:20:01.680 all about you speculated you lost in this one sell it at a loss put your condo on the market

00:20:07.040 but rather than let that happen mark carney went into vancouver last week during the

00:20:12.880 you know to coincide with one of the uh fifa cup games and he announced a bailout like worth like

00:20:18.880 2.2 billion dollars of canadian of your money of our money going to bail out these condo uh

00:20:26.960 developer speculators and he calls that somehow or other uh that's part of the plan to make housing

00:20:33.920 more affordable that that's not how it works folks so so what carney should have just done and he's

00:20:39.120 on the record as having said this i mean there are old videos that surface of carny from 10 years ago

00:20:43.920 11 years ago talking about this very subject and saying how businesses that are unsuccessful

00:20:50.720 should be allowed to fail which is um which is part of his overall theme that you'll keep

00:20:58.400 seeing all the time right he wants businesses to fail and he doesn't believe in true capital markets

00:21:04.720 he believes in capital markets with guidance from the government and letting the government pick the

00:21:10.880 winners and losers so that that bailout last week backfired on him immediately it was all over the

00:21:19.120 all over the media people were upset and and journalists even everybody everybody was upset

00:21:25.440 about this one i mean there's nothing good about this so much so that it's actually um people

00:21:31.200 started doing digging and you know when you dig around carney and these kinds of announcements

00:21:35.460 the word brookfield shows up real quick doesn't take long to see to realize that brookfield asset

00:21:40.920 management the condo management is part of that deal getting bailed out so basically carney was

00:21:45.960 going to go out and bail out his own buddies and so the ethics commissioner and other people got

00:21:51.120 immediately advised and uh you're not hearing about it much in fact i think carney's so scared

00:21:57.200 right now that um he's if you if you go look i do this for a living i said not for a living i don't

00:22:04.240 get a lot of money from it but i'm online all the time and i can see when somebody's trying to

00:22:07.760 distract or hide and so carney right now is trying to uh whoever's managing his twitter accounts and

00:22:14.400 his facebook accounts is just posting posting posting posting posting posting posting to try

00:22:21.280 and make sure that bad stories get buried and i think this is one of the bad stories now that said

00:22:28.720 um you know carney's been in power for over a year now and he's got like just like just like

00:22:36.160 trudeau before him bad stories about him keep popping up and nothing sticking so i i don't know

00:22:41.600 when's the story when something gonna finally stick to uh to carney i don't know i was hoping

00:22:47.680 that this would be the one i mean in line with this this week so carney i think is having a bad

00:22:53.440 week but that's why he's doing what he's doing he went to vancouver to watch the world cup now he

00:22:58.080 actually flew to vancouver twice he's on his way to edmonton tonight um carney's having a bad week

00:23:05.040 the condo thing was a bad week a bad event but i think the worst one is what happened yesterday

00:23:09.840 right so yesterday uh donald trump finally officially said that he is not opening up

00:23:18.400 the usmca or or the canada u.s agreement free trade agreement call it whatever you want

00:23:24.640 i i i call it the usmca lately he's not reopening it okay so the usmca was signed on july 1st 2020

00:23:33.680 this was the it's a 16 year deal with a sunset clause a weird clause the clause was yesterday

00:23:40.440 what the three countries canada usa and mexico yesterday had the opportunity to all three say

00:23:47.180 hey um let's extend it but nobody exercised that right so now the canada so now it goes into an

00:23:55.640 annual review it automatically goes into an annual review and and now it's set to expire

00:24:01.340 its normal course on july 1st 2036 and 10 years from now this is this is donald trump renegotiated

00:24:09.340 this deal put in those clauses and he's working this deal the way he wanted it he's cozying up

00:24:15.580 right now he's talking with mexico making it a little bit uh you know leaving the door open for

00:24:20.700 mexico but when it comes to canada he is leaving that door shut and you can tell that carney at

00:24:26.700 this point remember carney got elected the big fear last year during the election was that donald

00:24:32.940 trump was gonna you know fight an economic war against canada and that the only person's um best

00:24:40.540 suited to stand up to trump was carney so the liberals out east with their elbows up strategy

00:24:46.860 elected trump or elected carney carney promoted himself as the man to negotiate a better deal

00:24:53.260 with trump well that ain't happening and um and in fact i think this is uh setting up trump to do

00:25:02.140 what he well before i go there it's obvious now that carney is is staying super low-key

00:25:09.340 and carney's new strategy now is to hope that as little happens between now and in the next two

00:25:14.940 years and that that uh trump loses the next election well he will he can't run again that

00:25:20.620 that the Americans don't elect another Republican

00:25:23.680 and that maybe he can negotiate a better deal

00:25:26.780 with the next American administration.

00:25:29.780 So Carney has completely failed

00:25:31.340 and now he's staying low key

00:25:33.100 and he's going with that route.

00:25:38.740 And who loses in all of that?

00:25:41.640 It's not us here in Alberta, right?

00:25:43.440 I mean, the Americans,

00:25:44.800 the free trade agreement doesn't include oil.

00:25:47.620 We've been trading oil back and forth.

00:25:49.420 The Americans need our oil.

00:25:50.620 But right now, the only thing protecting, you know, the Ontario auto industry and Quebec agriculture and cartels and milk cartels and protecting BC's forest industry is the fact that this deal exists and that Trump can't just impose further tariffs.

00:26:13.620 so um a lot lots more to watch on that one but uh not a not a good day for not a good day for

00:26:21.020 carney but again nothing sticks to him uh today you know you see the stories online and everybody's

00:26:27.320 doing mental gymnastics and backflips to defend carney as still having uh accomplished a mission

00:26:34.340 accomplished somehow i i just don't understand how people can can wrap their head around and

00:26:39.080 continue to support somebody who's who's just not doing that um so folks go ahead like i'm gonna run

00:26:48.440 out of material there just as i said that somebody calls go ahead caller where are you calling from

00:26:52.920 hello hello

00:26:57.160 go ahead am i on yeah yeah

00:27:02.200 how will we ever get rid of carney if the mainstream media acts like everything that

00:27:09.800 goes wrong is pure trump's fault yeah no good um well we're gonna get we're gonna get rid of

00:27:17.860 we won't short answer is i don't think we can because we're gonna get rid of trump trump trump's

00:27:24.460 going to lose and then and then carney's going to outlast him and then uh and then they'll build uh

00:27:30.540 either either they'll promote carney as an alliance for the next leader if he's a democrat

00:27:35.920 or they'll promote him again as the defender if the americans re-elect the republican do you see

00:27:41.340 a way around that no i don't that's why i it seems like everybody is locked in their position

00:27:49.060 and nobody wants to even listen which is yeah which is which is um which is part of the bigger

00:27:58.320 problem right this like you you're you're you're expressing a frustration that most of us have

00:28:03.300 expressed by the way where are you calling from uh dar alberta perfect okay so you're so you're

00:28:12.540 an albertan expressing a frustration over the fact that there's nothing we can do about um

00:28:18.080 um about eastern canada electing liberals right there's nothing we can do

00:28:22.640 i'm a separatist i'm a canvasser i i'm pretty much done with canada bingo there you go so

00:28:32.160 we're on the same page thank you yeah yeah that's the there's nothing the the short answer to your

00:28:36.860 question is how do we get rid of trump or how do we get rid of carney we can't we're powerless to

00:28:41.640 do anything eastern canada will continue to elect guys like trudeau and carney and uh that's why

00:28:47.500 alberta independence is so important i think that's the answer right there thanks for calling

00:28:53.900 thank you have a great day you too um yeah yeah and so we're gonna see uh as as as gore the first

00:29:02.220 caller said you got current people are real what we just said right it comes back to this we always

00:29:08.060 have to remind ourselves i i don't need to remind myself i i live this every day we live in alberta

00:29:13.980 we we we we watch the polls close at 8 p.m on election night and then at 805 the outcome of

00:29:23.020 the election has been determined already cbc announces a winner because the people out east

00:29:27.820 have selected somebody and our vote doesn't count and so we've been kicked and abused and we did

00:29:35.100 now we have a very real we've had some in the past but this is probably the most realistic

00:29:41.900 separatist movement we've had in a long time and i think it is starting to send some fears in the

00:29:49.700 powers that be and so this week sure it's because it's stampede but everybody this week was here in

00:29:56.220 calgary right poiliev was in calgary carney's coming tonight they're all going to come back

00:30:01.360 next week during stampede suddenly everybody's focused on on on alberta you can see you can see

00:30:09.040 in the behavior of of david eb yesterday that he's being coached by carney and others that are

00:30:17.200 like hey we've kicked alberta a little bit too much their threat of separation is real tone down

00:30:23.620 the rhetoric start talking about the fact eb yesterday literally said that if there's a

00:30:29.880 pipeline approved he won't fight it okay like wow that's that's unheard of from him so he's basically

00:30:37.460 saying he's taking a step back and he's going to allow federal jurisdiction uh uh to to take

00:30:44.180 precedence and then and then carney going there is no coincidence some of the projects that are

00:30:50.260 being announced even though they come with a lot of strings attached they're not a coincidence and

00:30:54.580 then tonight carney is flying back now i was hoping tonight that that we would hear um about

00:31:01.380 the alberta pipeline today so i could talk about it on the show i guess i'm going to have to wait

00:31:06.180 until tomorrow but this is my prediction my prediction is um there is no pipeline okay

00:31:13.300 they're still going to be they're going to just push the mou forward and extend somehow because

00:31:21.540 no private sector enterprise came forward to say that they wanted to build a pipeline and honestly

00:31:27.860 it is not the bit i do not want the government to own a pipeline i didn't want government to

00:31:32.980 own trans mountain and i sure as heck don't want our government you know trans mountain is owned

00:31:38.340 by the federal government i don't want danielle smith i don't want the provincial government to

00:31:42.260 own another pipeline that's the clue that's the hint that's the evidence that things are not

00:31:47.620 working when governments have to build stuff that used to be built by the private sector that's the

00:31:53.460 evidence that something's not working so something's not working in this country when we

00:31:58.340 can't get the private sector to invest without bailouts or without subsidies or without tax

00:32:04.580 breaks or without anything and so i think we're gonna we're gonna see some sort of weird um

00:32:11.620 uh patting on each other's back between smith and carney tonight and they're going to try and

00:32:16.340 convince us that the pipeline is still a reality the pipelines the the only way pipelines are

00:32:22.340 going to go forward in this country is if Carney immediately reverses questions he was asked all

00:32:28.280 day today at the press conference like does this mean you've removed the tanker ban and he dodged

00:32:32.880 that question he's not moving the tanker ban like I said he added more regulations today buried in

00:32:38.280 and what in the announcement is a working he called it a working carbon credit market okay

00:32:45.360 a carbon credit market a carbon credit market is just a another way to redistribute wealth who has

00:32:52.280 a carbon credit who has a carbon sink in this country by definition by the carny liberal

00:32:58.200 definition the only two provinces that have a carbon sink are alberta and bc because they

00:33:05.160 produce their electricity from hydro and they don't produce a lot of hydrocarbons and who has a

00:33:11.160 a carbon uh deficit alberta so when they're talking about a working carbon credit market

00:33:18.840 he's literally talking about hey alberta you'll get your pipeline if you pay bc a carbon tax so

00:33:26.920 we're so that's what it's going to be it's going to be a carbon tax for bc and a carbon tax for

00:33:31.720 for quebec on top of the equalization payments and stuff like that so i i don't know i'm not

00:33:37.320 i i wish they they had done the announcement today but we'll i guess we'll wait until tomorrow

00:33:41.800 and see what that's all about ah man oh man um hey uh just just wanted to speaking of stampede uh

00:33:52.920 just want to bring it up in case uh i run out of time uh western standard will be uh hosting its

00:33:59.240 own stampede uh barbecue right away here uh stampede what does stampede start stampede starts next

00:34:06.600 next friday right next friday is the stampede parade that's for for people who don't uh

00:34:13.000 who don't know stampede is always is not always the same weeks but it's it's always the same

00:34:17.240 length it starts on a friday we shut down most of calgary in the afternoon we have a big parade and

00:34:23.320 then uh officially saturday until the next uh weekend is the stampede so it's 10 days so it's

00:34:30.760 coming up and uh john are you flashing that the barbecue is tomorrow

00:34:39.160 the stampede starts tomorrow oh man i'm i'm holy smokes i've been gone for so long yeah

00:34:44.200 stampede starts tomorrow holy cow all right well um no that i'm gonna argue with you john

00:34:51.480 i don't think that can be right is stampede actually starting tomorrow holy smokes

00:34:56.040 wow okay so the stampede parade is tomorrow so the barbecue is next week on uh on wednesday go

00:35:07.800 to the website there's details there um i'm pretty certain that the barbecue where the western

00:35:13.960 standard uh barbecue is is free to attend as a show of thanks for supporters but they will be

00:35:21.160 selling water balloons and there will be uh i don't know if the water are they selling water

00:35:26.760 balloons so you can hit derrick with a water balloon or are they selling sort of balls so

00:35:30.760 that you can hit uh derrick and sink him in uh some something like that there'll be a there'll

00:35:35.560 be a little fundraiser that way and you get to uh poke fun at the derrick with that and speaking of

00:35:42.440 derek and tied in with other things um next week also next uh next thursday derek derek is going

00:35:52.440 to be debating dwayne bratt uh so derek is a die hard separatist and dwayne bratt is a political

00:36:01.160 science professor at the mount royal university you see i see dwayne all the time online

00:36:08.520 and um i i i don't particularly like dwayne's takes on anything so i think that's going to be

00:36:14.840 really interesting to have those two finally debate uh and i in fact i think this might be

00:36:22.680 an even more interesting debate than uh than the keith wilson jason kenny debate because kenny kenny

00:36:30.520 really immediately went to all emotions and uh didn't bring anything really meaningful to that

00:36:36.200 debate and he was outgunned by keith wilson uh i still think derek will uh is is no match for

00:36:45.480 duane but mr bratt will he's a political professor so he's been he you know he thinks about this kind

00:36:52.600 of stuff for a living and he might bring a few good arguments to the table but i think he's going

00:36:58.840 to find that debating derek is a little bit different than debating your 21 22 year old

00:37:03.640 political science students so uh that one is uh rsvp it's at the glen moore uh hotel the old glen

00:37:13.560 moore um on uh just off uh glen moore trail down south kind of thing and i don't think the tickets

00:37:21.480 are that expensive uh i think they might be 20 bucks 30 bucks something like that it goes of

00:37:28.200 course um and and there's probably room for a couple hundred people so make sure you get a

00:37:33.080 ticket for that folks um any other debates any other news on uh upcoming western standard news

00:37:40.920 i guess not so all right um keep going down my list of uh stories here um

00:37:49.400 oh here's another interesting one that's july 1st actually a lot of things happen on july 1st

00:37:55.000 your 100 energy rebate that danielle smith announced a couple of weeks ago i don't know

00:38:00.680 if you guys remember that one so danielle smith announced a couple of weeks ago that because of

00:38:05.480 the increased price of oil um due to the uh you know gulf war and the strait of hormuz being

00:38:12.760 closed you know the government had a little extra money and so she announced that uh every albertan

00:38:19.080 over the age of 18 who had filled uh a tax uh filed their taxes last year would be eligible for

00:38:25.720 a hundred dollar check this is a bit of a throwback to ralph klein ralph uh near the end when

00:38:35.880 his popularity was waning uh ralph gave everybody the 300 ralph bucks i personally you know personally

00:38:42.920 a couple of things i mean everybody likes a little bit of money but a hundred bucks like i

00:38:48.360 at this point i'd rather i'd rather like a hundred bucks times three million people like that's still

00:38:53.320 300 000 or 300 million dollars right i would have preferred that that money either goes towards some

00:38:59.320 of our debt which we are accumulating or i would have preferred that the money would have uh gone 1.00

00:39:05.080 to some actual uh tax relief like maybe she could have lowered the taxes a little bit or taken away 0.97

00:39:11.560 the gasoline tax temporarily or permanently but a hundred bucks is not a lot but but the but the

00:39:18.280 thing is that i worry the most is i did go online this morning in preparation for this and i wanted

00:39:23.880 to see because you're not just going to get the hundred dollars mailed to you okay you have to

00:39:29.000 apply for it and so then i was curious i went online to see how do you apply for it and then

00:39:34.840 you realize okay so you need so i went through the process very painful so if you don't have a

00:39:39.960 my alberta account you need to set up a my alberta account and once you set up a my alberta account

00:39:45.640 you need to verify your account by providing a driver's license and then once you provide a

00:39:49.960 driver's license now you're set up then you click on um on this rebate and you got to answer a

00:39:56.440 couple of questions you know regarding your previous income and this and this and this

00:40:02.040 and then you give the government permission to verify all of the information by providing your

00:40:07.880 social insurance number and then it takes you to another page and when you get to the other page

00:40:13.400 It also says, well, we can't send you a check, so we don't want to send checks anymore.

00:40:19.440 So now you have to sign up for automatic deposit.

00:40:22.040 And I hate that because when you sign up for automatic deposit, you're also signing up for automatic withdrawals.

00:40:27.280 I insist, I pay my government federal taxes to Ottawa.

00:40:32.640 I've always paid them by a deposit.

00:40:36.480 I send you the cash.

00:40:37.820 i've never signed up for auto deposit by ottawa because if ottawa thinks that you owe them money

00:40:44.180 they can just pull it out i mean i'm sure they could pull it out if they if they ever need to

00:40:47.840 the government has so many powers right but i don't make life easier for them so in this instance

00:40:53.780 when all you do all these steps for danielle so or for the alberta government get in my alberta

00:40:59.960 account tell them your social insurance number tell them how much money you earned um verify

00:41:05.300 your driver's license provide your uh and then and then provide your banking information and

00:41:10.740 that's not just saying like here's my checking number or whatever no you have to do a link

00:41:15.140 through interact and everything else do all those things and we'll send you a hundred bucks

00:41:19.860 well when you do all those things you start realizing the government is paying you a hundred

00:41:24.260 bucks to take the first step in true digital id okay they're like i i i couldn't like i couldn't

00:41:35.060 bring myself to finish and do all the steps i was like yeah no not gonna do that and i stopped the

00:41:41.140 process it's not worth 100 bucks to give the government all that information but you you you

00:41:48.020 be you folks you do what you want to do i mean a lot of people i i talked about this online

00:41:52.340 yesterday a lot of people say you're already doing that with the government uh yeah we do

00:41:57.460 give the government a lot of information already but it makes you wonder why would the government

00:42:03.140 request all of that again if they already know everything right so it's um you know i i i have

00:42:11.140 my doubts about all the legitimacy of why the government is give it's it's a valid reason to

00:42:17.140 give you a hundred bucks give you a hundred bucks in return for something about you and uh and that

00:42:22.820 and that makes me a little bit nervous ah boy um so what do you guys feel i mean somebody let me

00:42:30.340 know like are is the what's your thoughts on 100 bucks would you have preferred that the hundred

00:42:34.900 dollars be uh uh applied somehow to the debt or or are you going to collect 100 bucks is what's

00:42:43.220 100 bucks to to somebody these days i mean 100 bucks barely covers i'm trying to go through the

00:42:48.260 comments here and i think john's trying to do the same thing like what does 100 bucks cover these

00:42:52.180 days it's a mission at the stampede i think maybe not not sure um all right where else uh

00:43:01.940 let's keep going down here

00:43:05.940 oh yeah okay well snowbirds right yesterday another sad day i'm trying to i want to okay

00:43:13.540 i want to add a couple of let me let me add a let me add a positive story let me add a positive

00:43:17.300 story real quick um so canada we were in vancouver and uh the town as we're driving you know we we

00:43:23.700 spent an afternoon there the town was buzzing it is evident that the world cup is happening even

00:43:28.340 though the world cup is expensive uh the world cup is happening pretty pretty cool to see canada

00:43:34.980 advance uh to the round of 16 so congratulations to the guys on the team i mean we've never

00:43:40.980 done that before um and then one guy on i mean the game i re-watched not gonna lie i i do like uh

00:43:49.940 soccer football as uh as people call it it is on my bucket list would be to go to south america

00:43:56.740 and see the world cup being played in a country like argentina or brazil i think that would be

00:44:02.100 epic i think the way they're doing it in canada is a little bit goofy with uh you know some some

00:44:08.020 games in toronto some games in vancouver some games in the u.s it's it's a little too spread out but

00:44:14.500 uh it was it was good to see cal canada advance and maybe someday it'll be alberta in the world

00:44:20.580 cup one of our players got a uh a hat trick came in a weird game right the weird game against qatar

00:44:27.540 um qatar got two red cards so two players from qatar got expelled from the game so that meant

00:44:33.380 that canada basically had a two-man advantage for for uh about half the game and a two-man advantage

00:44:40.420 on the soccer field is a huge advantage and canada was able to capitalize on that um and then uh

00:44:50.020 canada who was the other victory again so that was the first one and then we defeated uh was it

00:44:57.140 no it wasn't morocco who did somebody somebody put it in the comments i don't even remember

00:45:01.860 who i haven't had to watch the second game yet but uh we we we won the second game seriously marty

00:45:08.900 if you want your oas and cpp in the future everyone goes through the process of direct deposit

00:45:15.060 oh yeah yeah no i i'm reading that comment i agree but i'm just delaying it uh as long as possible

00:45:20.740 i'm not collecting my cpp and my oas and i know that that future is coming i just don't i mean

00:45:27.140 i'm just one of those guys who resists a lot of things as long as possible just because something

00:45:32.020 is inevitable doesn't mean you need to give in and subject yourself to it right away i mean like i

00:45:37.460 got a watch like i got a watch i haven't enabled my wallet on my watch i get nervous i have friends

00:45:43.700 who do that i have like i'm traveling uh you know going to vancouver last week and and every time

00:45:48.580 i'm stopping to uh at a gas station get a little bit of gas and go in and get a snack i got a buddy

00:45:54.100 who just takes his watch and then puts it to beep and then he's done and i'm like wow and i asked

00:46:00.180 them like you know would you would you implant a microchip in your hand that would simplify all

00:46:05.380 that and he's like oh yeah absolutely so yeah i get that some people are abandoning themselves to

00:46:10.580 that and uh but then at the same time i mean that's another story that broke out this week

00:46:17.300 is you know remember the controversy a month ago about the fact that uh the electoral list

00:46:25.460 had been quote unquote leaked right and what's on the electoral list right the electoral list

00:46:31.620 is no different than a phone book i mean it's people's addresses and uh whatever your address

00:46:39.700 your name and uh perhaps your phone number and and everybody made a lot of people made a big cry

00:46:45.140 over the fact that that got leaked but then you got the same group a minute later will say oh yeah

00:46:49.540 what i'm signed up for for for automatic deposit i have this on my watch blah blah blah blah blah

00:46:55.220 i mean we share information but i guess we have the right to to choose how that information is

00:47:00.660 shared but i think i think i think that's those lines are getting blurred especially now in light

00:47:06.260 of uh of uh c9 c9 the anti-hate bill that came into effect just before the house paused but now

00:47:14.660 the next one on the table is that i can't remember the number i think it's c14 is c14 the one where

00:47:20.980 the liberals are proposing to make uh to restrict social media to those over the age of 16. well

00:47:27.540 how do you restrict it to those over the age of 16. well by by forcing those above 16 to prove

00:47:35.140 that they're 16 and that's going to be by providing either a driver's license or something basically

00:47:40.500 the liberals are going to force anybody in canada who wants to go on social media to validate their

00:47:46.580 identity yeah so yeah yeah it's uh i i i appreciate the comment i mean you you you can whine and you

00:47:55.380 can not whine about about privacy it's uh it's a double-edged sword and and back to that privacy

00:48:03.460 breach there was a there's a law firm out of uh bright creek that is trying to build a class

00:48:12.660 action lawsuit for that data breach for the sharing of the electoral list and they named

00:48:21.540 the chief electoral officer of alberta as a as a defendant they named the government of alberta

00:48:29.220 they named uh the republican party the centurion project a bunch of other groups and so they did

00:48:35.380 the whole shotgun approach of of naming a bunch of defendants and trying to build a class action

00:48:41.380 lawsuit now in order to build a class action lawsuit they're going to have to find somebody

00:48:45.620 who's an actual plaintiff who's going to have to prove that harm was done to them right so just

00:48:50.900 because like like me personally speaking no harm has come to me from that data breach none that i

00:48:58.100 know of right just because a data breach occurred and data breaches occur all the time right the ndp

00:49:03.540 uh leaked uh years ago the alberta health numbers there are breaches of you know how often do you

00:49:10.900 get a phone uh an email from a service provider whether you know telus will contact you saying hey

00:49:16.020 you know our data was compromised and according to our records uh you were unaffected that's a

00:49:22.260 fact right that's that's one of the tenants of our courts if you have no damages then you have no

00:49:27.380 recourse doesn't matter that somebody came close to hitting you coming close to hitting you because

00:49:33.540 they you know uh were driving too close to you is not a crime and so unless you prove damages

00:49:40.500 there's no case so in this lawsuit some i'm going to be curious to see if they find a plaintiff who

00:49:46.740 will actually say that they suffered damages as a result of this breach okay i got time for a couple

00:49:52.500 of callers go ahead caller where you're calling from please how's it going today what's your name

00:50:02.020 gloria so what's on your mind um marty um they have all your information you everybody has just

00:50:15.700 done and finished all their taxes right so they can automatically go into that information on the

00:50:24.740 tax information and uh send you out your hundred dollars immediately i agree i agree they could

00:50:36.820 yeah they could do that but i i can i can see that while they're they're taking advantage of

00:50:42.420 of this to try and promote some new system, right?

00:50:44.500 They're promoting the MyAlberta

00:50:46.240 account. Did you have one

00:50:48.360 of those? Do you have a MyAlberta account?

00:50:51.800 No,

00:50:52.460 I don't.

00:50:54.340 The government 0.85

00:50:56.180 is being so incompetent

00:50:58.060 in that matter. 0.87

00:51:00.380 And furthermore,

00:51:03.220 Marty,

00:51:04.240 love your show,

00:51:06.060 but there is something

00:51:08.400 else you guys

00:51:10.320 have to know.

00:51:12.420 This is what Alaska gets, they get a personal dividend fund from their pipeline.

00:51:26.500 We should get ours as well.

00:51:31.080 We are getting ripped off our personal dividend fund from our pipeline and where is our interest

00:51:42.420 in that like our money's interest like really and the government shouldn't own it because

00:51:51.980 if you want a personal dividend fund you look it up on the alaskan white website

00:52:03.140 and they will give you the amounts that they've gotten every year on a good year

00:52:09.740 you can get 13 maybe 2400 dollars for each individual in your household and

00:52:20.680 that includes your children yeah yeah I appreciate that comment no yeah

00:52:27.380 Alaska is an example of a small jurisdiction that's very well managed

00:52:33.200 and everybody gets a dividend check absolutely yeah can if I agree with you

00:52:38.480 If Alberta was running that way, we could probably pay ourselves $200, $300 a month, never mind a year, right?

00:52:46.980 I mean, that would be real money.

00:52:49.400 That would be fun.

00:52:51.400 But Daniel Smith is ripping us off a personal dividend fund.

00:52:56.780 We should be pressing her on this subject, Marty, because it's valuable for your children to get a personal dividend fund so they can pay for their education and their college.

00:53:17.840 and furthermore if they have some uh health problem we can they can get prescriptions or

00:53:27.440 whatever yeah no no we're we're in agreement thanks for calling uh um yeah thanks thank you

00:53:33.780 for calling yeah i think the uh i think the hundred dollar check is just um like i said it's

00:53:39.400 it's a way to distract from other things it buys a couple of votes makes danielle popular among a 0.98

00:53:45.240 small crowd and they added benefit it gets alberta to uh to drive some of their other agendas and 0.75

00:53:51.920 advance some of their software and their technology towards uh towards uh more digital id

00:53:58.320 it digital id is inevitable i get it folks but it's uh it's something i'm gonna fight a little

00:54:05.120 bit longer that's all um taking a quick look at some of the comments here and and i oh caller on

00:54:13.140 the line uh go ahead caller hi hi hi my name is lena i'm from west to stony plains uh my only

00:54:26.880 question is what is your take on smith's attitude towards all the violence that's happening towards

00:54:33.660 the surface i'm sorry i missed the violence the violence that's happening towards who i missed

00:54:39.660 the last bit our our independent folk oh for example the guy that got into it the other day

00:54:48.160 on the road there and we all know about the cigarette butts and the coffee i just want to

00:54:53.120 know your take on smith's response to what's been happening to our side and not pulling anything out

00:55:00.040 yeah well i mean i don't have a honestly i i missed that event last week and yes i

00:55:07.320 let me take it back i i i spoke about this at length when i was collecting signatures right

00:55:15.160 you remember when i was collecting signatures we were sub i was i do i was subject to a lot of that

00:55:20.120 crap and i was upset i it wasn't just smith i wanted smith i wanted nenshi i don't care what

00:55:26.240 side of the political arena you are i thought that all any politician should have spoken up and they 0.96

00:55:32.040 didn't right so it's not it's not just on smith i think every politician should speak up against

00:55:38.440 this kind of nonsense uh abuse uh aimed at people that are simply exercising their democratic rights

00:55:47.480 but but her her silence is particularly galling because she's the most senior person but

00:55:53.160 but yeah um i i really wish more of them would speak up my fear right she's that's my fear she's

00:55:59.640 not she's not speaking out loud enough you know what i mean i don't know yeah anyways thank you

00:56:06.280 i appreciate it thank you yeah i saw that on the news i i guess she's referring to the gentleman or

00:56:12.360 person who got pulled almost pushed into traffic like that's crazy that's that's totally crazy um

00:56:19.480 you know and one of the one of the things that i've i gotta i'm running out of time but i i just

00:56:28.920 want to maybe it's one of my closing thoughts i'm at the point now where i don't believe anything

00:56:33.480 anymore right you know what i mean like plane crashes in the world trade center i don't believe

00:56:37.400 it's a coincidence a boat hits a bridge i don't believe it's a coincidence mark carney walks in

00:56:42.520 a parade and gets liquid sprayed on him i don't believe it's a coincidence it's all orchestrated

00:56:46.680 right it's it's just an attempt to say to be able to say oh uh the prime minister is more at risk

00:56:51.960 we need to beef up security we need to uh you know more justification for c9 and the anti-hate bills

00:56:58.280 and stuff like that and and then and it comes down to even this kind of petty small violence and

00:57:04.520 events i just some of them i just don't think they're coincidence anymore i think they're

00:57:08.680 they're done on purpose to trigger an emotion to maybe trigger a response from one side or the

00:57:14.600 other that then justifies more rules right i've i've shared a poster many many times you know

00:57:19.720 i'll paraphrase but the the the rule says if you allow the government to break the law for every

00:57:24.360 emergency they always create an emergency or or a crisis right and um and and and i just hate the

00:57:32.980 fact that we go down that path i mean we we didn't even talk about like coven was an example of that

00:57:37.480 right coven was a crisis that allowed them to put all sorts of measures in place for our security

00:57:42.180 i wouldn't be surprised now you know there was some major flooding in canaanaskis and i wouldn't

00:57:46.600 be surprised if as a result of this they they say oh well see this is one more reason why we should

00:57:52.120 should shut you out of the parks is too dangerous to go into the parks and so and and then and then

00:57:58.100 these these these incidents with people i mean i lived it i i started realizing that the people

00:58:03.320 that were coming to harass me when i was collecting signatures were coming to harass me and were being

00:58:07.700 paid by somebody to elicit a reaction out of me to give an excuse to shut me down i got it i got it

00:58:14.980 so um anyways okay cool uh running out of time um a bit of a slow show today but i guess i missed a

00:58:22.660 couple of weeks and we'll we'll catch up and hopefully uh next week you guys are back on

00:58:27.140 board actually next week might be a really tough show with stampede going on we'll see how that

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00:58:47.700 slash subscription ten dollars a month hundred dollars a year john did you guys draw and announce

00:58:53.620 the winner of the couple of hats or is that going to be something tomorrow or today they were

00:58:59.060 running a promo but i think the promo's done um there will be more events during stampede anyways

00:59:06.500 happy to be back as much as I'd like to go back into the wilderness be here next week hoping you

00:59:12.860 guys all call in same time Thursday afternoon I know everybody's done with their big lunches but

00:59:18.200 hope to see you next week folks cheers and have a great weekend

00:59:36.500 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - July 02, 2026

Court allows Alberta independence petition signatures to be counted

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