Western Standard - August 23, 2025


Defending Your Home Is a Crime in Canada ｜ The Pipeline


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In this episode, we discuss the recent case of Eddie Eddie Ortiz and the charges he received by the police in the case of an intruder who tried to rob a home in Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada. We also talk about the recent break-in case in Montana, where a homeowner tried to defend his own home from a would-be burglar, but was instead charged with a crime.

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00:00:00.000 There's four things driving this kind of crime.
00:00:04.760 Mass migration, drugs, particularly fentanyl,
00:00:12.520 a feckless and cowardly police culture.
00:00:20.200 Between BLM and long-predating BLM,
00:00:25.140 that kind of culture coming down,
00:00:26.700 trying to make police politically correct peacekeepers
00:00:30.520 instead of police,
00:00:33.000 and importantly, a disarmed populace.
00:00:40.320 And Canada is disarmed relative to the United States,
00:00:42.820 but in other parts of the world, not as much.
00:00:45.160 But just yesterday, we have a story
00:00:48.260 about the federal government, Corey,
00:00:52.320 trying again, I think, a third or fourth time now
00:00:55.040 on their so-called buyback program.
00:00:56.700 That's their confiscation program.
00:00:58.620 They can say buyback, but they're not buying it.
00:01:00.720 They're confiscating it and handing you a small amount of money.
00:01:03.340 And it's not back, because they never had it to begin with.
00:01:05.560 This is confiscation.
00:01:07.380 They are renewing their push to confiscate lawful weapons
00:01:11.020 from lawful and law-upholding gun owners
00:01:14.640 just as this kind of thing happens,
00:01:16.680 and they prosecute the home and gun owner.
00:01:20.920 Here's a statistic.
00:01:21.980 So these 2023 numbers, the most recent available,
00:01:27.960 the armed robbery rate in Canada
00:01:31.480 is 59 per 100,000.
00:01:35.320 So, Montana, just south of us here,
00:01:38.980 24 per 100,000.
00:01:40.980 Now, I'm not cherry-picking.
00:01:41.900 I didn't go through a bunch of different states.
00:01:43.880 There's way more variation in the states
00:01:45.260 than within Canada on these kinds of things.
00:01:47.480 I would hazard a guess that, you know,
00:01:52.980 the robbery rates in California
00:01:54.980 are probably comparable to Canada.
00:01:57.900 You know, similar political culture,
00:02:00.180 similar levels of legal gun ownership,
00:02:02.140 but higher levels of illegal gun ownership.
00:02:04.460 Montana, extremely high levels
00:02:06.500 of civilian legal gun ownership.
00:02:09.040 If you break into someone's house in Montana,
00:02:12.220 I'm willing to bet
00:02:13.580 they're going to try and shoot you.
00:02:15.780 It's just not worth the risk.
00:02:17.140 Yeah, maybe the house won't have a gun,
00:02:19.200 but there's a damn good chance they do,
00:02:20.560 and they're allowed to use it.
00:02:22.560 They have Castle Doctrine in Montana.
00:02:24.480 So, I think those are the four big things.
00:02:27.080 It's just mass migration.
00:02:30.060 It is the drug and fentanyl problem.
00:02:33.880 It is a cowardly police,
00:02:35.560 and it is a disarmed populace.
00:02:37.000 And this is just the regime
00:02:39.820 continuing to push.
00:02:44.280 These cases where someone
00:02:45.780 heroically defends their home,
00:02:47.320 their family, their property with a firearm,
00:02:49.020 it's bad propaganda for the regime
00:02:50.900 because it says,
00:02:51.740 this is why you should be allowed to have a gun.
00:02:55.240 I'd be a bit more sympathetic
00:02:57.820 to the police than you are.
00:02:59.360 It's not that they're cowardly.
00:03:00.420 It's just that when they do the right thing,
00:03:01.920 they're not supported.
00:03:03.700 I'm not very sympathetic
00:03:04.680 with what they did with me.
00:03:05.820 I waved a cane at vandals,
00:03:07.640 and they charged me.
00:03:08.540 I have no sympathy for a lot.
00:03:09.860 There's a lot of good cops,
00:03:11.160 but tons of them are cowardly,
00:03:13.040 and they're just towing a political line.
00:03:14.580 I have no sympathy.
00:03:15.300 So, if they're towing a political line,
00:03:17.960 then there's a politician
00:03:19.460 who I would like to go after
00:03:20.980 before I went after the police.
00:03:24.320 Tell these people...
00:03:25.240 This is the discretion of the police.
00:03:26.800 The police placed this charge.
00:03:28.980 These cops were individually responsible,
00:03:31.640 and they should have their badges stripped.
00:03:32.800 They should be allowed to look at them all.
00:03:34.460 You're not going to get the local alderman
00:03:36.040 or councillor placing the charge,
00:03:38.180 but it's those people
00:03:39.040 that the police answer to.
00:03:40.720 So, they're not doing the job
00:03:43.300 the way they should be doing it.
00:03:44.460 You've got to go back to the people 0.53
00:03:45.540 who pay their wages and say,
00:03:46.880 we need more and better.
00:03:49.080 I was under orders.
00:03:50.020 It's not always a good excuse.
00:03:52.220 These guys, it is their discretion.
00:03:54.580 The local alderman,
00:03:55.800 the local mayor,
00:03:56.720 does not say,
00:03:57.660 you're going to charge here
00:03:58.340 and not charge here.
00:03:59.120 They're setting the political tone
00:04:00.500 and these things,
00:04:01.960 but those police made the decision.
00:04:04.720 They have the discretion themselves,
00:04:06.260 and they consult with prosecutions on this.
00:04:08.420 They made this decision.
00:04:10.320 The police and potentially the prosecution,
00:04:12.560 if they consulted with the Crown prosecutor,
00:04:14.680 they are directly responsible for this,
00:04:17.540 and they should be stripped of their badges.
00:04:19.600 We don't actually know
00:04:20.840 who the intruder was yet,
00:04:22.320 I don't believe.
00:04:23.060 We do.
00:04:23.380 He's an offender who was wanted on charges
00:04:26.200 with a history of this,
00:04:27.180 and he had a weapon.
00:04:27.600 Okay, so is there a racial overtone?
00:04:30.860 That's an interesting question.
00:04:31.720 We don't know yet?
00:04:32.500 That's what we know.
00:04:33.700 Extra points if there are.
00:04:35.620 You know, the thing is,
00:04:37.320 if you have somebody of the wrong complexion
00:04:39.760 and you don't charge them,
00:04:41.500 well, you've got a racist police department.
00:04:43.720 So the police are, you know,
00:04:45.320 doing what they do under some difficulties.
00:04:48.220 It comes from both sides,
00:04:49.200 but as we mentioned earlier,
00:04:50.380 the Eddie Maurice case,
00:04:51.280 which was in Alberta in Foothills County
00:04:54.100 where I live.
00:04:54.600 There weren't, actually,
00:04:55.460 though some people tried bringing it up.
00:04:56.660 No, those were both white bread meth heads 0.94
00:04:58.740 who broke off.
00:04:59.980 You're thinking of the Colton Boushey case,
00:05:01.800 which is another one in Saskatchewan,
00:05:03.400 which had some...
00:05:04.220 At the police one,
00:05:05.160 there was nothing of that.
00:05:06.500 No, though some people tried to bring it in
00:05:08.080 because they went under the assumption,
00:05:09.820 which is another area of racism, actually.
00:05:13.420 I misspoke on the rebel then earlier today.
00:05:15.480 I guess this will have to do with my correction.
00:05:16.900 Yeah, well, those were kind of happening
00:05:17.940 at the same time.
00:05:18.880 So part of it was political timing
00:05:21.040 because Stanley just got exonerated
00:05:23.860 on the Colton Boushey case,
00:05:25.180 which was a bunch of Indigenous armed kids
00:05:27.020 on an impaired rampage
00:05:29.020 who, one of them, unfortunately,
00:05:31.100 I mean, still is unfortunate,
00:05:32.260 but got killed in that one.
00:05:33.880 Eddie Maurice,
00:05:34.700 though the charges were laid on him,
00:05:36.760 for those who don't remember it,
00:05:38.640 he was alone at home late at night.
00:05:40.520 He was the one person
00:05:41.440 and his toddler was in the house
00:05:42.800 and he fired one shot,
00:05:44.820 which ended up hitting
00:05:45.660 one of the meth heads in the elbow.
00:05:47.600 And I've been to his house.
00:05:48.500 This was from like 12 feet away.
00:05:51.860 If the intent was to kill the guy,
00:05:53.820 Eddie most definitely
00:05:54.760 could have perforated him
00:05:55.700 a heck of a lot more than that.
00:05:58.000 Either way,
00:05:58.600 they put him through the wringer.
00:05:59.680 They ran him through it
00:06:00.760 and it was,
00:06:01.480 we were furious in our part of the world
00:06:03.100 because this was our neighbours.
00:06:04.500 You know, I mean,
00:06:05.020 yeah, it's a 40 minute drive from me,
00:06:06.640 but Foothills County,
00:06:07.500 its neighbours were rural.
00:06:09.160 And there was a lot of town hall meetings
00:06:11.160 held by the RCMP
00:06:12.140 to try and calm the public
00:06:13.340 and it didn't work.
00:06:14.440 So the one at Prentiss,
00:06:15.740 right by my place
00:06:16.700 and when I was in it
00:06:17.420 and that cop got heckled a lot.
00:06:20.600 They start the meeting by pointing out,
00:06:21.980 yes, our average response time
00:06:23.580 is 40 minutes in our area.
00:06:25.480 So he's admitting that.
00:06:26.340 Fair enough,
00:06:26.680 because they got limited resources.
00:06:27.800 You got five cops in a huge area.
00:06:30.260 But then he says,
00:06:31.020 so what you must do,
00:06:32.400 and that's what I labelled it as
00:06:33.600 when I wrote the column on it
00:06:34.800 and came to the mic was
00:06:35.660 call, cower and pray.
00:06:37.040 You're saying
00:06:37.560 if somebody's breaking into my house
00:06:39.160 that's supposed to call you,
00:06:40.140 find a corner of the house
00:06:40.900 and cower
00:06:41.280 and pray that this person
00:06:42.420 doesn't get in
00:06:43.320 and doesn't want to do me harm
00:06:44.140 because they were telling us
00:06:45.400 do not defend yourself.
00:06:47.400 Everything a person brought up
00:06:48.620 because people were bringing up,
00:06:49.640 what if I shot him with a paint gun?
00:06:50.880 He said,
00:06:51.100 you'd be charged
00:06:51.680 with discharging a firearm at them.
00:06:53.060 It's not a firearm,
00:06:53.700 it's a paintball gun.
00:06:54.520 If they think it's a firearm,
00:06:55.540 we will charge you
00:06:56.260 as if it was a firearm.
00:06:58.400 This is the way their laws go.
00:06:59.500 What if I stick my dog on him?
00:07:00.540 We will charge you with assault.
00:07:01.740 What if I pepper spray him?
00:07:02.840 We will charge you with assault.
00:07:04.560 Everything they told us was
00:07:05.720 call, cower and pray.
00:07:07.880 And you could tell
00:07:08.280 by the whole room,
00:07:09.000 they were saying
00:07:09.360 even if it was you breaking in,
00:07:10.640 we're going to blow your brains out. 0.96
00:07:11.900 We're defending our homes
00:07:12.900 and our parsons and our property.
00:07:15.140 The police are disconnected
00:07:16.260 from the reality of the homeowners.
00:07:18.400 Now, not every individual officer,
00:07:21.020 I'm certain many are very understanding
00:07:22.680 that they would do the same thing
00:07:23.880 if they were in their home
00:07:24.960 and there is a political pressure going on,
00:07:27.540 but it has gotten down
00:07:28.580 into a culture among the police too.
00:07:30.220 They jealously guard that ability,
00:07:31.740 feeling you, it's our role.
00:07:33.920 And just even if you were put
00:07:34.940 at risk waiting for us,
00:07:35.920 you must wait for us.
00:07:37.420 And that's got to change
00:07:38.540 because these shootings
00:07:39.360 are going to keep happening.
00:07:40.180 I know that in my household,
00:07:42.760 I mean, if I can get the combo
00:07:44.020 to the firearms safe fast enough
00:07:46.060 and so on,
00:07:46.860 it's going to bode very poorly
00:07:48.160 for the intruder.
00:07:50.320 We've got to get realistic
00:07:51.260 on these laws.
00:07:52.440 Yeah.
00:07:53.620 Well, I mean,
00:07:54.360 I certainly,
00:07:54.960 I mean, to Derek's point,
00:07:56.320 much as I,
00:07:57.000 I do defend the police
00:07:58.440 if I think that there,
00:07:59.580 there's political pressure on them
00:08:01.760 to go easy
00:08:02.420 on certain types of crime.
00:08:04.360 The one that got me angry
00:08:06.320 a year ago
00:08:06.940 was the fellow in Ontario
00:08:09.120 who said,
00:08:09.780 look,
00:08:10.340 there's a lot of carjackings.
00:08:11.820 Just leave the cars.
00:08:12.820 Just leave the keys handy
00:08:13.920 where the thief could get it.
00:08:15.600 And, you know,
00:08:16.460 nobody gets hurt
00:08:17.520 and there's less trouble.
00:08:18.600 That is not a policing attitude.
00:08:20.640 And then this morning
00:08:21.320 when I was looking up the,
00:08:22.460 looking up the background
00:08:24.240 of these incidents,
00:08:25.360 I came across,
00:08:27.200 it's a pretty well,
00:08:28.960 it's easy to find,
00:08:30.280 but there's this video
00:08:31.140 of an American police officer,
00:08:33.180 I think it's in Santa Clara County,
00:08:35.360 and he says,
00:08:35.900 well, you know,
00:08:36.860 people are talking about
00:08:37.680 whether they should
00:08:38.380 shoot an intruder
00:08:39.440 if they come in.
00:08:40.540 They kind of prefer it
00:08:41.240 if you do.
00:08:43.340 It's the hot lost paperwork.
00:08:46.240 Oh, that's hilarious.
00:08:48.420 I think the chief of police
00:08:50.060 down there,
00:08:50.440 just didn't notice
00:08:50.800 because it came up
00:08:51.400 on news searches
00:08:52.100 and everything,
00:08:52.600 his name is Corey Morgan.
00:08:53.540 I believe it's Santa Clara,
00:08:56.800 Santa Clara,
00:08:57.280 Santa Barbara,
00:08:57.740 one of those two anyways.
00:08:58.800 Yeah, because he just ran,
00:08:59.660 he ran for the opposition
00:09:00.980 because you have to run for.
00:09:02.220 Oh, so he's like
00:09:03.000 the elected sheriff.
00:09:03.860 It was popping up
00:09:04.520 in this scroll
00:09:04.940 for this political Corey Morgan.
00:09:06.240 That's not me,
00:09:07.100 but it looks like
00:09:07.720 a good conservative,
00:09:08.520 bro, I guess.
00:09:10.640 Corey Morgan tells everyone
00:09:12.380 to shoot the intruder.
00:09:14.220 Sheriff, which one?
00:09:15.060 I'm not far off from him.
00:09:16.320 I mean, so where discretion,
00:09:18.360 like the police are supposed
00:09:19.260 to use their discretion here.
00:09:20.860 The discretion should be,
00:09:22.340 was your force
00:09:23.940 proportional to the threat?
00:09:25.460 Was your force
00:09:26.000 proportional to the threat?