Western Standard - Don’t let the Kamloops residential school child burial hoax get swept under the rug!

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 brilliant crazy week in politics and news with lots of stuff to discuss and rant and dissect and

00:00:39.580 go on about i've got lots to cover today um in a little while i'll have a guest on tamara leach

00:00:45.240 of course everybody remembers her from the convoy who's been arrested convicted sentenced

00:00:50.780 post-arrest community hours all that stuff we'll get updates from tamara and see exactly what's

00:00:54.680 going on with her now. And yeah, I think there was a recent court ruling saying the convoy

00:01:01.540 wasn't justified. They weren't supposed to, I mean, the Emergencies Act and things such

00:01:05.000 as that. But, you know, the courts find this years later, but nobody ever seems to face

00:01:08.720 consequences within government. But when you're outside of government, boy, they certainly

00:01:12.120 don't let off on you, do they? All right. Well, speaking of things not letting off on

00:01:16.460 and not letting go of, I want to go on about the Kamloops residential school child burial

00:01:21.360 hoax. I know you've heard me go on about it before but we can't stop talking about this. We can't let

00:01:26.640 them sweep it under the rug. It's been nearly five years since that bombshell revelation was released

00:01:30.880 at the graves of 215 children been found at the site of the former Kamloops residential school

00:01:35.780 site and since then the Kamloops First Nation was given over 12 million dollars expressly to

00:01:41.080 exhume and identify the remains. While the band made the money vanish it didn't move a single

00:01:45.340 teaspoon of dirt trying to find a grave. The hoax of the child burials is now moving into fraud

00:01:50.420 territory is some people have pocketed some serious coin here, haven't they? So no, we can't

00:01:54.880 let it go. And bands across the nation, they're emulating the Kamloops band approach and it's a

00:02:00.220 lucrative venture. It's also causing more social division among people already in a socially

00:02:05.180 dysfunctional state. There were a couple of reserves of the alleged grave sites. Some

00:02:09.360 excavation of those sites took place and then they discovered there was no remains there. So

00:02:14.460 rest assured the bands won't make that mistake again. They'll just keep demanding money not to

00:02:18.960 look. So Kamloops Band Chief Roseanne Casimir said in 2022, the nation's approach as an ongoing

00:02:26.380 process of, and this is her words, exhumation to memorialization, ongoing indeed. Once questions

00:02:33.300 began arising from people about how many children had been exhumed, the government leapt into the

00:02:37.620 issue by sealing the records of the alleged investigation. The band was supposed to produce

00:02:42.100 regular reports of their progress in investigating the alleged graves as part of their conditions

00:02:46.360 of the funding but rather than admit the reports were either trash or non-existent the government

00:02:51.600 covered it up for the band it's not the band's money it's the taxpayers money and we do deserve

00:02:56.440 to know where it went the campus band got another 12.5 billion to build a healing house to recover

00:03:02.420 from the trauma caused by the non-existent graves as well so as pressure continued to mount and

00:03:07.500 there has been some finally a little bit uh chief roseanne casimir said she issued a press relief

00:03:11.860 rife with excuses not to dig and basically full of outright bs the band claims they must seek

00:03:18.340 consensus from 38 indigenous bands before excavating and that spiritual protocols must

00:03:23.300 be considered that's simply a load of crap if spiritual protocols called for the remains to

00:03:28.460 be left buried by the alleged murderers there wouldn't have been millions spent digging up

00:03:32.280 the winnipeg landfill seeking the remains of two indigenous women spiritual protocols in just about

00:03:37.560 every culture typically demand the remains be dealt with by the family of the deceased

00:03:42.000 That's where the hoax has another challenge, though.

00:03:43.820 There's not a single family claiming to have lost a member at the Kamloops residential school site.

00:03:48.960 Despite these alleged murders having happened in the 50s and 60s,

00:03:52.000 not one family stepped up to say it was their son, cousin, daughter, whatever it may be.

00:03:56.240 Part of the funds given, actually, were to find these families,

00:03:58.540 but it appears the band put as much effort into that as they did in exhuming the graves.

00:04:02.020 We haven't even proven a single grave exists there.

00:04:05.540 To claim we have to treat these as sacred is just hooey.

00:04:08.920 Let's be blunt here.

00:04:09.920 If the band really thought there were children buried there, they'd be digging one up every month and issuing a fresh press release along with rage and demands for compensation.

00:04:18.960 The real reason the band won't dig is they know damn well there's no graves.

00:04:22.160 It would literally only take a couple hours to resolve the issue one way or another, and they refused to do it.

00:04:26.420 The RCMP knows there's no bodies there as well.

00:04:28.820 I mean, despite a commonly held myth, First Nations aren't really sovereign nations.

00:04:32.240 They are subject to the law of the land, just like any other municipality.

00:04:34.900 If a person was murdered and buried on a reserve land, the reserve has no authority to block a forensic investigation and exhumation.

00:04:42.000 If they did, they could start a cottage industry of selling burial plots to murderers.

00:04:46.040 The reason the RCMP isn't digging is because there was no bodies and there's no crime.

00:04:50.120 Hundreds of churches, though, were burned to the ground and scandalized over these revelations.

00:04:55.280 Hundreds of millions of tax dollars were tossed at the issue.

00:04:57.360 Fags were at half the last three months.

00:04:59.520 Relationships between Indigenous and non-Indigenous people were frayed further than they already were.

00:05:03.280 and all over a hoax.

00:05:05.180 And yes, I'm going to keep using that word, guys.

00:05:07.080 The hoax isn't simply a footnote

00:05:08.360 that we can look back upon

00:05:10.080 and try to forget about.

00:05:10.900 It's an ongoing thing

00:05:11.820 as race hustlers continue to milk it

00:05:13.460 and take millions of dollars

00:05:15.060 to perpetuate it rather than resolve it.

00:05:17.620 As long as the Kamloops residential child burial

00:05:19.700 hoax remains investigated,

00:05:21.180 it becomes more difficult to believe

00:05:22.840 the allegations of abuse

00:05:24.060 at other residential schools, doesn't it?

00:05:26.960 People are going to look at every claim

00:05:28.040 with a jaundiced eye and with good reason,

00:05:30.120 even if some of those claims might be real.

00:05:31.540 For the sake of Indigenous and non-Indigenous people, we must follow through and excavate

00:05:35.820 in Kamloops. We must hold the fraudsters responsible too. It should be our right to

00:05:40.420 see detailed reports on just where the $12 million was spent, and if any of it was spent on anything

00:05:45.120 aside from investigating the graves, we must demand it be repaid. If it isn't repaid, it's

00:05:50.000 time for legal recourse. The era of banned irresponsibility must end, and this hoax is

00:05:54.580 too damaging to leave unresolved any longer. All right, well that's what's got me wound up today.

00:06:00.380 Let's check in with our news editor, Dave Nehler.

00:06:01.820 How are you doing?

00:06:02.240 I'm doing okay, Corey.

00:06:03.200 How are you?

00:06:03.720 I'm all right.

00:06:04.340 You're a little rough in the throat.

00:06:05.460 I'm a little rough in the throat.

00:06:06.780 Been battling a bug for a couple of days, but I'm feeling well enough.

00:06:10.880 What do you say after work?

00:06:11.860 You and I go to Home Depot, get a couple of shovels, drive out there, start digging.

00:06:16.000 What do you think would happen?

00:06:17.000 Well, we'd be arrested quite quickly, I suspect, but I'm not a law expert.

00:06:21.900 How fast can you dig?

00:06:23.480 I don't know.

00:06:25.340 We'll have to wait the ground thaws a little more, maybe.

00:06:27.040 i'm kind of surprised in a way that nobody hasn't tried to do that you know i mean we've got a

00:06:32.580 got a nation of sort of people who might you know well it's just a lot of people yeah sitting around

00:06:38.180 nothing better to do with their time you know pop out and have a little digging party or something

00:06:42.120 i'm not counseling anybody no no no we wouldn't do that would we would we so you're roughly

00:06:47.280 recovered from your vacation now and yeah and back in the winter mode even though it's above

00:06:51.520 zero now it's as nice as a february is going to get so i'm not going to piss and moan too much

00:06:55.340 about returning to winter.

00:06:56.820 Ah, well, it's not been a bad one.

00:06:58.100 Yeah, February was good, except for the last week.

00:07:01.240 So, another busy day.

00:07:02.920 Again, we got leading off the site at the moment

00:07:04.960 is a column or a piece from Jared Yager out in Vancouver.

00:07:09.260 Apparently, a member of city council

00:07:10.920 lost their mind yesterday on a broadcast

00:07:14.000 and accused all of taking drugs.

00:07:18.660 They're all drug users.

00:07:20.320 He sort of quickly took it down and apologized.

00:07:23.880 but it's funny.

00:07:26.460 One of our favorite topics, recall.

00:07:28.980 Another fiasco this week with Nathan Neudorf.

00:07:32.920 The one recall petition against him has officially ended.

00:07:37.780 And apparently they didn't get one signature.

00:07:40.160 Not one, Corey.

00:07:41.700 Yeah, well, that was the one that they thought maybe some fellow

00:07:44.120 might have been doing it just to disrupt the recall process

00:07:46.780 and then purposely shelved it.

00:07:49.260 We've been getting a hold of him forever, and there's just no way.

00:07:53.300 Even if that's the case, I don't know, but none of these came anywhere, even vaguely close.

00:07:57.880 I mean, it wasn't going to happen.

00:07:59.520 No.

00:08:00.700 Keystone XL Revival is, again, making the rounds.

00:08:04.220 Our energy expert, Dave Winnick, has got the story on that.

00:08:08.420 This will come as no surprise to you, Corey.

00:08:10.260 MPs are saying the $2 billion that we've given to Canada Post taxpayers' money to keep them going is lost,

00:08:17.320 and we'll never, ever see it again.

00:08:19.560 Jeez, well, you never would have thought that they'd be at bad credit risk.

00:08:22.060 No, you wouldn't.

00:08:23.940 Speaking of a lot of money, there's more, the movement for a high-speed rail is moving forward between Ottawa and Montreal and Toronto.

00:08:33.800 The head guy says it's very sexy, but it could cost $90 billion, $90 billion.

00:08:39.720 And we know how these work. When they say $90 billion now, that means, oh, what, 20 years late and 10 times over budget.

00:08:46.900 But you look around the world and all the developed countries have high-speed rail.

00:08:53.300 right? I mean, how long has it been in Japan for decades? We should have been jumping on this ages

00:08:58.500 ago. I don't know. I mean, there's density differences and cultural differences and

00:09:02.260 things that make those more viable. I mean, California, I think is the model people should

00:09:05.220 look at if they want to see about a North American one. That hasn't been going very well.

00:09:10.020 It hasn't. Cuba, suffering greatly under the American embargo. So Canada is going to send

00:09:18.020 And money, millions and millions of dollars in aid is set to go to Cuba.

00:09:22.700 And some Tory MPs are saying, hey, wait a minute, don't remember, don't forget,

00:09:26.940 this is a communist country who jails dissidents and stuff like that.

00:09:30.420 You might want to think about it.

00:09:31.880 So does Canada.

00:09:32.620 So does Canada.

00:09:33.560 Yeah, true.

00:09:35.140 Bill Gates finally has admitted that, yeah, he did kind of have sex with those two Russians

00:09:40.680 that he came across while visiting Jeffrey Epstein.

00:09:45.460 So it was a $12 billion affair, Corey. That's how much he had to give his wife when they split up. $12 billion. Ouch. I'm not sure any affair is worth that much.

00:09:56.960 No, no. You know, I mean, we got the cost. Man, that's something. I mean, at first I'd been rolling my eyes with this Epstein thing for so long, but we're seeing it really starting to trickle out. It's starting to catch my interest more. I mean, this guy was a power broker.

00:10:12.920 I mean, you could see now, I think, I mean, I'm just guessing everybody else is, but he had quite a nice little leverage racket with a lot of powerful people.

00:10:20.880 Oh, absolutely.

00:10:22.020 Highest establishment in Great Britain, Prince Andrew, you know, the U.S. ambassador to, former U.S. ambassador to the United States, Peter Mandelson.

00:10:32.520 So, yeah, he had his thumb on a lot of people, a lot of very important people.

00:10:37.940 It's not that surprising then when he got arrested that he suddenly committed suicide.

00:10:42.200 Worst case of suicide I ever did see.

00:10:45.020 Well, it'll give us lots to keep unpacking and looking into.

00:10:47.760 I mean, it's a massive data dump, and there's still only more to come, I think.

00:10:50.500 A lot more to come.

00:10:51.600 The most damning stuff, because this is the stuff they're working harder to redact.

00:10:57.380 So, yeah, it's going to be interesting.

00:10:59.080 Story that won't go away.

00:11:00.360 Keeps on giving.

00:11:01.260 Well, that's good.

00:11:01.840 When we get a slow news day, we've always got the Epstein fuss.

00:11:04.280 If there is ever a slow news day.

00:11:06.000 True, we haven't had those lately.

00:11:07.160 Not a lot.

00:11:08.040 All right.

00:11:08.460 Well, thanks, Dave.

00:11:09.160 Well, let's pack your way back into the office there.

00:11:11.640 You bet.

00:11:11.720 thank you see you after the show see you later all right that is our news editor dave naylor and

00:11:16.680 yes lots on the go we cover everything from those international issues such as the epstein files to

00:11:22.540 of course a lot of domestic and local stuff and the reason we can do it so we're gonna nag shake

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00:11:31.480 guys check it out westernstandard.news slash subscription take one out it's ten dollars a

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00:11:42.220 you and be able to keep getting those reporters out there, asking those questions and getting

00:11:45.100 that information. Uh, so, uh, you know, in the next segment, we tried this last week, but this

00:11:50.760 is brand new. We're going to try and get some callers in if you like. Okay. So, uh, it's a

00:11:55.160 little different. We don't have like the full radio, uh, station sort of set up. What you do

00:11:58.460 is call if the first person gets in, uh, on a hold essentially at that point, we'll be able to pull

00:12:04.280 in a little later on to it. The phone number is 866-479-9378. It's extension 711. You'll see it

00:12:12.100 at the bottom. So yeah, consider it, you know, after that segment, call in, bend my ear, tell me

00:12:17.340 what you think about a few things, argue with me, let's have some fun with it. Lots of stuff to talk

00:12:22.960 about. I mean, I don't know where to begin. As Dave said, no shortage of news stories going on.

00:12:30.100 that ruling you might have seen, and I don't typically jump into the trans issues and all

00:12:35.880 that stuff. You know, I tend to be actually pretty socially liberal, but I'm also of the point,

00:12:40.360 you know, I'm a libertarian and people should be able to say whatever the heck they like,

00:12:42.820 whether you agree with it or don't agree with it. And that case in BC, $750,000 against that

00:12:49.380 teacher. And among the things within it was hurt feelings. Guys, there is no right not to have your

00:12:55.740 feelings hurt. I'm sorry. Hey, having your feelings hurt sucks. It all happens to us now and then.

00:13:00.100 Those are the lessons we learned all the way from elementary school, well, probably to the grave.

00:13:04.160 But it doesn't mean you should be financially compensated for it.

00:13:06.960 And that number is beyond the pale.

00:13:09.960 I mean, that's ridiculous.

00:13:11.420 It was bad enough hearing about a hairstylist.

00:13:13.820 They got fined $500 from one of these kangaroo courts, human rights tribunals,

00:13:20.260 because they didn't have a non-binary option.

00:13:23.960 But then hurt feelings.

00:13:25.820 I mean, I didn't look much into this teacher.

00:13:27.960 I'm guessing maybe he was pretty nasty and rude about things.

00:13:31.100 Oh, well, life sucks.

00:13:31.860 Get on, get over with.

00:13:33.900 750,000.

00:13:35.300 And that caught international attention from of all people.

00:13:38.920 And this is where I'm getting some hope, though, with the tide changing on some stuff.

00:13:42.900 John Cleese, you know, from Monty Python, from over there, always had been quite a lefty.

00:13:48.240 He liked to talk about politics on X and you see his commentary and things.

00:13:52.460 But he's hit that point, I think, where, well, for one, he's old enough.

00:13:55.020 You know, a lot of older people get to the point where there's just no filter left.

00:13:57.960 and they'll just say whatever comes in their mind. So just imagine what I'm going to be like

00:14:00.540 in 20 more years. Either way, Cleese has always been outspoken. And now, though, he's drifting

00:14:06.220 quite a ways from the left. And he was talking about doing a tour across Canada. He does, you

00:14:10.940 know, comedy speaking tours, things like that around the world. And he called up that ruling

00:14:15.960 and said, whoa, you know what? I think I might reconsider coming to Canada altogether if that's

00:14:20.660 the sort of thing they do when it comes to speech and ideas like that. You see, comedians are on

00:14:24.940 the front line of free speech. As well, he's been ripping into Islam in a way that I get on X and

00:14:31.360 follow John Cleese, this turnaround from a high profile person saying the quiet part out loud at

00:14:37.420 last, which is great to see. I mean, we've been ripping into some of those cultural problems and

00:14:41.920 problems for a long time, but now we're starting to see people on a different caliber level. So

00:14:46.720 check him out on there. Maybe some tides are turning. All right, let's get to my guest before

00:14:51.660 she gets arrested again or something like that it's uh barely everybody knows who she is and

00:14:56.860 she was with the uh truckers convoy of course and uh you know a terrible threat to the security

00:15:03.120 to the point of having to be imprisoned without bail for for weeks and weeks at a time uh now

00:15:09.340 she's mostly free and she's here to talk to us today so how's it going tamara it's going really

00:15:14.640 well cory thanks so much for having me it's nice to see you again oh yeah yeah it's been a while

00:15:19.580 So I appreciate that.

00:15:23.420 I guess part of it, though, for a lot of people, they might not have seen stuff just to bring them up to date.

00:15:29.660 You're still under a house arrest, but now because of workplace allowances, you're allowed to kind of travel around a bit, right?

00:15:36.940 Correct. Yes, I am currently serving an 18 month sentence, 12 months house arrest and then six months of curfew.

00:15:43.980 However, I was given 74 days time served due to the nearly 50 that I spent in jail, which is funny because that's pretty much unprecedented for a mischief period.

00:15:56.840 So my sentence will be complete on January the 21st.

00:15:59.800 Chris Barber's will be complete at the end of next April.

00:16:03.680 Okay, well, and you did some community service for a bit too?

00:16:08.000 I did, yeah.

00:16:09.140 I had 100 hours of community service to perform.

00:16:11.800 so between my church i work there once a week and also three times a week at the local food bank so

00:16:17.640 and i really enjoyed my time there it didn't really seem like punishment to be honest

00:16:22.120 i'm still volunteering actually at the food bank they're going to let me continue to do that which

00:16:25.560 is quite nice well that's you know kind of a good outcome though it's better if you just used to

00:16:30.040 those things rather than have a judge mandated you know it can ruin a good thing uh so i mean

00:16:36.440 I mean, frustration you've got to be expressing, I imagine, to a degree, though.

00:16:40.560 We're seeing, you know, rulings are following up and realizing it was the federal government that was unreasonable during the convoy, you know, month, basically, or months even.

00:16:51.920 I mean, the Emergencies Act was beyond the pale.

00:16:54.160 It was out of control.

00:16:55.480 But still, they never backed off on cracking down on you and Chris Barber.

00:17:00.280 But nobody in the government has been held accountable.

00:17:02.760 There's no sign that they will be.

00:17:03.820 Well, obviously, that is a source of frustration for Chris and myself, and I'm sure many other Freedom Convoy people that were that were persecuted or prosecuted and charged.

00:17:16.820 It is, as I just said, I've been convicted in a court of law, found guilty of committing mischief, and I'm serving my sentence.

00:17:24.840 And it is frustrating knowing that the government of Canada, the Liberal Party of Canada, invoking the Emergencies Act was ruled ultra-virus and unlawful.

00:17:33.880 And we haven't even had a statement from the PMO or the Justice Minister on the Federal Court of Appeals ruling, which upheld Justice Mosley's decision.

00:17:44.220 So apparently in Canada, mischief is a more heinous and punishable crime than trampling your rights and freedoms is the message that this is sending to Canadians.

00:17:54.640 Well, you know, it's something that should be applied to both, you know, your own case and with the federal government and how things have gone.

00:18:02.500 I mean, we've really let things get so slow in our court system, though.

00:18:06.900 These are things that should be resolved in much, much less time for the sake of the defendant, whether they're guilty or not.

00:18:13.560 uh and likewise with the government i mean if they've done wrong we want to get to the bottom

00:18:17.960 of it rather than taking four or five years and then things are forgotten or can be swept under

00:18:22.200 the rug or people kind of let it go i mean it's it's the process is the punishment well and i

00:18:28.200 think that's the point i think the point is is they want to just ignore this um this ruling um

00:18:33.720 and sweep it under the rug and hope everybody forgets about it like i said it's it's very

00:18:38.440 unusual that they haven't even issued a statement about it and not only that but even the pandemic

00:18:43.400 as a whole we haven't even had an inquiry or anything into the handling of it um what they

00:18:48.940 could do differently next time what they would do better what they wouldn't do i mean generally

00:18:53.220 in in a situation of that magnitude you see inquests and inquiries and investigations that

00:18:58.940 follow something like that so we haven't even seen um any type of any type of action in that

00:19:03.760 form yet either no and i mean i i don't think enough canadians should understand you know forget

00:19:09.040 the gravity of exercising something as serious as the Emergencies Act. I mean, it's a version

00:19:13.980 of martial law. It's an emergency button for a government if the aliens are invading or

00:19:19.200 if something really disastrous has really occurred to the point where we have to suspend

00:19:24.340 civil liberties for a short period of time to get it under control. And it's become quite clear

00:19:29.920 that that didn't meet that bar in Canada during the convoy. But again, there's been no consequence

00:19:36.020 for not meeting that bar the case in korea we we heard mentioned the other night with a

00:19:40.580 former prime minister there he got quite heavily penalized for uh wrongly imposing the emergencies

00:19:45.860 act there yes he's facing life in prison uh i believe for for his invocation of their version

00:19:52.900 of martial law um and justin trudeau got katy perry so you know um and and what we're seeing too

00:20:01.220 is that a lot of these mps that were involved or former mps that were involved in the decision to

00:20:05.940 invoke the emergencies acts are all failing upwards they're being you know sort of pushed

00:20:10.680 out of cabinet or pushed out of parliament into these nice cushy consulting jobs yara sacks i

00:20:16.760 believe the lady who stood up in the house of commons and said honk honk was the same as us

00:20:21.980 saying hile you know uh the bad guy um absolutely ludicrous is working for the sussex strategy group

00:20:29.740 now if you look up the sussex strategy group they're just a they're just a bunch of people

00:20:34.180 that sit around you know talking they're i mean this is this is how these people end up or they

00:20:40.140 get nice cushy ambassador jobs too right um but no accountability no it says a lot with a lot of

00:20:46.780 those jobs if they're ambassadorships there are other consultancies or things but it's amazing

00:20:50.720 how many of them end up out of the country for their soft landing where uh they will be forgotten

00:20:55.660 about and not questioned rather than even a local directorship or or crown corporation head or or

00:21:01.640 something like that going on here. A lot of them lately just seem to be hopping the border when

00:21:06.280 they finish up. Yes, I know. Everyone should be so lucky, eh? Yeah, I hear you. Well, as we sit

00:21:14.200 around talking for a living as well, we don't get compensated nearly as well as those guys do.

00:21:19.520 So speaking of which, you've been on the tour with myself, and this has been something you've

00:21:23.700 been working on. You've always been something of an independent maverick days in the past and

00:21:30.040 currently. So I'm going to, you know, take a leap and imagine you've kind of come to the same

00:21:35.480 conclusion of me, that the federation really can't be repaired, but maybe we can fix a part of it.

00:21:41.420 Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. I mean, as you heard me talk about, I sort of did a whole 360

00:21:46.980 on the independence thing. Obviously, I grew up a proud Canadian and then joined, you know,

00:21:52.460 the Wexit movement and the Maverick party throughout that, actively helped Jason Kenney

00:21:57.060 and my local MLA in the 2019 provincial election and then of course my perspective shifted when I

00:22:03.020 went across Canada with the Freedom Convoy and I saw you know these Canadians all come together

00:22:07.360 and I really believe that you know it was worth saving. I still believe Canada is worth saving

00:22:12.520 I'm just unsure of if it can be saved and so I believe you know the the run for independence I

00:22:20.720 think this is a great way to exercise democracy and to give the Albertans a choice and a voice

00:22:26.400 and it's going to be a really exciting year.

00:22:29.280 I mean, it's really exciting to go out to these petition signings

00:22:31.780 and seeing all the smiling faces and a lot of hope

00:22:34.680 and a lot of excitement for the future again,

00:22:37.160 which is quite reminiscent of how it felt when we drove across Canada.

00:22:40.980 So as much as I think it's sad to see this happening

00:22:45.440 and I don't think anyone really wants to see Canada break apart,

00:22:49.960 we have to sort of save ourselves, I think.

00:22:52.760 You know, this is not working for us.

00:22:54.080 And you'll hear the question repeatedly, you know, if Alberta wasn't already a part of Confederation, if we were offered what we have now, would we would we agree to join?

00:23:05.920 And I think that's a wholehearted no.

00:23:08.140 But I think, again, I think it's just really important that we have an opportunity to actually exercise our democratic rights and give ourselves a voice and a say.

00:23:17.720 And it's going to be exciting to see how the next few months roll out.

00:23:23.040 Absolutely.

00:23:23.560 Absolutely. We're in for, I mean, historic years.

00:23:25.600 We've got a referendum approaching.

00:23:27.320 We've never had that happen out in Alberta before.

00:23:29.660 And, you know, I've been watching the independence movement for a long, long time.

00:23:33.500 And something, there's a lot, something very different this time.

00:23:35.880 I mean, there was Doug Christie and the West Fed and such in Western Canada concept back in the 80s.

00:23:40.820 And there was the Alberta Independence Party that started at the end of the 90s.

00:23:44.540 These came and went. They crested. They fell by the wayside.

00:23:47.740 But something's different this time.

00:23:49.500 I think the convoy has a lot to do with that and COVID in general.

00:23:52.620 because for the first time you know there's been lots of political-minded people and so on screaming

00:23:58.200 out hey your your rights are being eroded the government's getting too big it's uh we're losing

00:24:02.740 our checks and balances nobody really paid attention to it until they suddenly saw what

00:24:07.300 can happen when they suddenly realized you can be kept away from your workplace away from your

00:24:12.640 loved ones you can you know have your rights completely infringed upon and that feeling of

00:24:19.980 having um you know security i guess you could say is gone like people are engaged in a way we've

00:24:26.780 never seen before the meetings are still packed i mean we're sold out in edmonton the other night

00:24:30.620 and i would think that the convoy had something to do with that well i think what the convoy did

00:24:36.300 was it exposed a lot of shenanigans that were happening in our federal government i mean it

00:24:41.400 was so much more it ended up being so much more than just us traveling there to have a discussion

00:24:46.500 about the mandates um throughout the throughout the whole protest i mean the liberal government

00:24:53.300 continued to expose themselves um i think some nefarious intentions they showed that they were

00:24:58.980 not acting in good faith and so i think it really opened a lot of eyes um especially out in western

00:25:05.780 canada and and let's face it i mean western canadians are tired of being used and ignored

00:25:10.820 I think the MOU well a lot of people did applaud Daniel Smith and Mark Carney for the MOU regarding

00:25:19.340 pipelines I mean it's just a piece of paper and I think we're tired of lip service and we'd like

00:25:24.100 to see some concrete action. Absolutely so what do you think let's just jump the clock ahead a

00:25:34.000 little bit what if there was an independent Alberta an independent west what would you want to see to

00:25:38.860 make sure that we don't have to endure. I mean, there's always that risk that we flip out of what

00:25:42.220 we just left and into a smaller version of what that was. What should we be looking to do

00:25:48.300 to ensure we're making a better place rather than just a lateral move or even a worse move?

00:25:54.160 Well, you're absolutely right about that. A lot of these things tend to end up exactly the way

00:25:58.180 that they started. I think first and foremost, a smaller government is definitely necessary.

00:26:04.800 I think there's a lot of ways that we're going to be able to succeed. I mean,

00:26:07.740 you go out and you hear some people speak and it's all doom and gloom or pensions and you've

00:26:12.280 raised some excellent points and um and not only that i mean one of the great things i really like

00:26:17.760 about your book is that you are giving tips on how to do this successfully how to approach

00:26:22.540 independence successfully you know based on your own experience and some mistakes that you've made

00:26:26.960 in the past as well pardon me excuse me yeah well and that's part of it we can't forget our history

00:26:35.480 we can't forget the mistakes we've made that seems to be a bad habit we have doing is oh

00:26:39.040 sorry about that we'll deal with that later and then we just kind of move on that was part of my

00:26:43.720 rant to begin with with the Kamloops residential school gravesite thing too people are kind of

00:26:47.380 saying okay nothing to see here let's just stop looking and not look into that well hang on I

00:26:51.760 want to see a system where this can't happen again and I'm not seeing that and that's part of it too

00:26:59.240 you know with what was exposed during the convoy we're one more virus away from being locked down

00:27:04.720 again nothing has changed in that regard so i think it's important for us is if we're talking

00:27:10.820 about independence alberta to have people like yourself speaking about remind us we've got to

00:27:15.520 have those protections for individuals in in a new new alberta and that's one reason why why we still

00:27:22.100 have to see justice and accountability for the invocation in the first place um because if we

00:27:27.160 don't see that then then it just leaves it open for them to do it again what's to stop them from

00:27:32.660 doing it again if there's absolutely no consequences i mean what did it cost them a

00:27:37.200 couple of inquiries you know that i mean so yeah i think um i think it's really important that we

00:27:43.620 hold their feet to the fire here so uh just kind of getting in closing you did release a book a

00:27:49.860 while back i think i spoke to you when you when it first popped out but still not everybody has

00:27:53.420 read it yet and they really should it's called hold the line uh it gives some background of

00:27:58.920 course on everything that happened your your perspective on you know how you kind of fell

00:28:02.340 into a position of uh leading a convoy out there in ottawa where can people find your book uh it's

00:28:09.080 available on amazon actually or you can uh you can order it through the convoybook.com uh through

00:28:14.340 rebel news i believe also and yeah we're just getting started on book number two here with

00:28:19.000 in the next week or two so it'll be uh it'll be exciting it'll be an exciting summer right on and

00:28:24.920 And so where can people find you these days?

00:28:26.960 I know you've got a new job lately.

00:28:29.460 Yes, yes.

00:28:30.660 I'm working for Rebel News, actually, which works out fantastic.

00:28:33.760 It allows me to get out of the house for some work exemptions.

00:28:36.560 And it's going to keep me really busy.

00:28:38.280 So you can find me at Rebel News.

00:28:40.240 You can also find me on X at at Leech Tamara.

00:28:43.940 And you're touring on the Independence Tour.

00:28:46.500 There's five more stops left on that one.

00:28:48.720 I think it's independenctour.com to see where those are?

00:28:51.760 It is, yeah.

00:28:52.380 That's where you can see where we'll be coming.

00:28:54.000 you can get your tickets and all the information about our tour.

00:28:57.020 So, and it's been amazing so far.

00:28:59.060 I love the question and answer portion is actually my most favorite.

00:29:02.740 We've had some really thoughtful questions and some really thoughtful

00:29:06.480 concerns that have come out of this.

00:29:07.880 So I'm really happy about the discussions that I hope that we're sparking

00:29:11.460 anyways.

00:29:12.800 I hope so too.

00:29:13.760 No, it's been fun.

00:29:14.580 And just in case everybody's wondering, yeah,

00:29:16.220 I'm on that tour as well.

00:29:17.620 So if you want to come out and bend our ears and those question periods and

00:29:21.160 everything else, check out that independenctour.com.

00:29:23.400 get signed books all that good stuff and uh you know we're moving ourselves closer to that line

00:29:28.200 uh anything else you'd like to add before i let you go then no that's that's pretty much it for

00:29:33.320 me i think great well thank you our listeners and viewers really appreciate the update we're

00:29:38.800 always concerned about how things have been going it's been such a long drawn out for a few years

00:29:42.680 for you so thanks again and i guess we'll see you tomorrow night yes you sure will thanks a lot cory

00:29:48.180 have a great day thank you so one more time guys that is uh tamara leach you can find her book it

00:29:53.680 is called hold the line and yes she's working for rebel media it's we're competitors in that sense

00:29:58.980 but it's a you know we they're media outlets that are independent and complement each other we're

00:30:03.320 not at each other's throats i want to see everybody subscribe to both publications uh not just one

00:30:09.520 or the other and uh yeah there's a a lot to be fought a lot to fight for so let's see what else

00:30:17.080 we got going on here provincially um it's been interesting and we're seeing some folks coming

00:30:22.740 out on that uh you know as we're moving into a referendum year it's coming this fall one way or

00:30:28.980 another and uh where's nancy where's this star ndp leader who was going to bring them over the

00:30:36.540 line who was going to change everything the head nancy former mayor of calgary he was believe it

00:30:41.900 or not you can google this i know it sounds a little hard to believe i don't know i'm not a

00:30:44.680 good judge of of uh the main appearance but he was calgary's sexiest man four years running

00:30:51.440 apparently quite something and after all of that and he gets to the head of the new democrat party

00:30:58.200 and guess what he's flopping you know premier smith is still growing in the polls she's still

00:31:03.820 gaining she's doing all right what's he doing wrong i you know my views on it and i've watched

00:31:09.860 in she quite closely for quite a while uh is he doesn't know how to operate in a party environment

00:31:16.840 you see you got to understand it's a little different well it's one thing to be a mayor

00:31:20.100 and have a room of 15 people that you uh manage and he fought mostly with that city council the

00:31:28.460 whole time he was in there as mayor as well running a party is a whole different animal

00:31:33.000 that's where you actually have to have a little bit of humility which is something she doesn't

00:31:38.580 have it all you know i've been critical in many many ways on many many things and i'll continue

00:31:43.440 to be uh one thing i never saw out of him was signs of corruption you know i'll give credit

00:31:49.220 where it's or some in case he's mining his own pocket he's he's a rough political player he'll

00:31:55.000 play dirty he'll do a lot of that but he's not corrupted or anything that way his vice is his

00:32:00.580 vanity he says it outright he says he's the smartest man in the room he walks into a room

00:32:06.000 and he just glows. It's all about him. Well, that's not so well received in a party atmosphere.

00:32:14.020 And I got a feeling, I'm just guessing, that the NDP caucus isn't necessarily too thrilled

00:32:19.240 in being second banana to this man. You know, he's operating on his own. He's talking to them.

00:32:25.520 He's viewed, he was in the leadership, even though he wanted handily, as a bit of an outsider. He

00:32:29.780 didn't take his lumps climbing the union ladder to get to the head of the NDP as they usually do.

00:32:35.620 popped in from the outside as an outside savior. So in a party environment, if you don't have that

00:32:42.380 loyalty and support from your own party members and party organizers and such, you have a much

00:32:50.000 harder time being effective in office. Again, there can be a one-man show. You can't do that

00:32:55.840 as a party leader. You want to stand up as a party leader. You want to be the one that people go to

00:33:00.460 on things. But there are a lot of ambitious people underneath you who expect their due,

00:33:06.900 who expect to be respected, who want their voices to be out there as well. And they're just not

00:33:14.260 feeling it for him. So when you don't have that, he can't effectively take advantage of things. I

00:33:18.020 mean, that procurement scandal with healthcare, and it's really never been resolved. And that was

00:33:23.300 a bad screw-up on the part of the Smith government.

00:33:27.420 I've got to say, Notley would have really mopped the floor

00:33:31.280 with Smith over that one. She would have really made and scored some political

00:33:35.060 points. I do not want to see the NDP in. I'm not trying to

00:33:39.220 give tips, I guess, in a way that would lead to that. But it shows a different

00:33:43.020 skill set and ability to grab those issues and make use of them. Nenshi

00:33:46.540 is just there, and he just can't seem to get his feet going from under him. And even guys

00:33:51.100 who can't stand Premier Smith, like Don Braid, he's a columnist with the Herald, he's been there

00:33:56.840 forever. He's been writing, like, what the heck is with Menchie? He's a total flop. So that gives

00:34:02.660 Premier Smith a lot of free reign to do what she wants, you know, provincially, when you've got no

00:34:07.260 one breathing down your throat. But what an interesting political picture we've got on the

00:34:11.980 go right now. So let's go to the federal polls. I mean, provincially, support for independence has

00:34:16.600 been growing western standard has some exclusive polls you can see that and the ucp has been

00:34:21.880 seeing their support grow but federally mark carney is strong he's wrapping up the country

00:34:28.820 like it or hate it that's the reality the conservatives are speaking again of leaders

00:34:33.600 who can't just seem to manage to capture the imagination or the support of people in general

00:34:38.960 and i like peer palia but obviously a lot of canadians don't and they just continue to keep

00:34:45.860 sinking and sinking. And I don't get it myself. I mean, I certainly don't. So Carney is spending

00:34:50.860 like a madman. He's really not been governing responsibly. Yet at the same time, he's gaining

00:34:57.880 in support. Predominantly, again, Central Canada, of course, as usual. That's the thing. So the

00:35:04.100 rumors are really starting to hit about whether or not Carney is going to call a spring election,

00:35:08.560 a snap election. I'm starting to lean towards thinking he will. And, you know, if you'd asked

00:35:13.700 me a few months ago I would have said no and some people are thinking well he's getting this close

00:35:18.240 to a majority just by grabbing floor crossers why would he bother needing to hold an election well

00:35:24.500 because you want more of a majority if you want to do a bunch of things than just one or two seats

00:35:29.860 that still leaves you very vulnerable that still makes it difficult to maneuver you're also two or

00:35:34.780 three seats away from losing your majority at any given time the temptation has to be strong when

00:35:39.580 he's in a minority right now but sitting with a 13 14 percent lead in the country to find an

00:35:46.080 excuse and the government can always find an excuse to fall you know you could put out another

00:35:50.740 giant budget update or a giant policy or plan and you you know the usual political lines you're to

00:35:55.840 say this is so important that we must take it to the canadian people in an election rather than

00:36:01.560 just bringing it through legislation because i love you all and respect your views so much that

00:36:06.620 this is the only way we should possibly do this. So we're going to call an election where I'm going

00:36:11.120 to meet with the governor general, we're going to implement and put it to Canadian. See, I could

00:36:15.540 play that stupid game. In reality, it's anything but respect for Canadians. But you hit the

00:36:21.140 conservatives while they're down, you get in there, and suddenly you win in a majority with a 15-20

00:36:27.280 seat buffer. Now you can really do all you want. And what I'm starting to see too is election

00:36:32.880 style spending. Now, Carney already was spending in ways that made Trudeau look cheap.

00:36:37.700 But he's still ramping it up. Every day, he's putting out another spending announcement. That

00:36:43.120 deficit is massive, and it just keeps growing. Six billion more to Ukraine. You know, more for

00:36:49.060 this, more for that, more for this. And the billions just keep adding. You know what that

00:36:52.440 sounds like? It sounds like an election campaign. Because sadly, voters fall for it. They often vote

00:36:58.500 for whoever blows the most sunshine up their butts

00:37:02.560 and whoever promises the most spending.

00:37:04.680 They know that, as shallow as it is,

00:37:06.760 as destructive as it is,

00:37:08.180 because eventually we've got to pay the bill.

00:37:10.880 Carney, this fiscal expert,

00:37:13.620 and what kind of fiscal expert

00:37:17.780 puts us in a position where we're spending

00:37:19.380 a billion a week on interest on the debt.

00:37:22.900 Yet, that's what he's doing.

00:37:25.280 I smell an election coming.

00:37:26.980 It's going to do it this spring.

00:37:27.800 So let's say he does it, though. Let's say he does that. Let's say he's in with a full majority now. He's got a 10, 20 seat buffer. Think of where the independence movement sit. Think of what that will do to it. This independence movement that's already snowballing in Alberta, that in Saskatchewan and looking meetings, they're packing rooms out there as well.

00:37:48.740 And you know the election map will look just the same as it did before.

00:37:53.320 Liberal East, Conservative West, futility, inability to change,

00:37:58.560 an abusive, punitive, federal, centralized government

00:38:01.440 sniffing down their noses at us.

00:38:05.100 This is where we start getting closer to a winning referendum possibility.

00:38:10.820 Now, what about that?

00:38:12.360 There's just so much to cover here, right?

00:38:14.780 So Premier Smith put out her, what, nine, I think it is,

00:38:19.600 referendum questions that are going to be coming this fall on the 19th.

00:38:23.640 And I know some independent supporters aren't too thrilled with it.

00:38:26.400 I'd rather it was completely separate from it.

00:38:28.520 I honestly, I admit that, that's for sure, even a different day.

00:38:31.320 But the reality is, for responsibility-wise and so on,

00:38:35.080 you hold the referendum on the same day because, you know,

00:38:37.580 it's just one day of everybody voting.

00:38:38.860 You could have the advanced polls together.

00:38:40.480 Everything else like that, you stick them all together.

00:38:42.520 It's done in countries that do a lot of direct democracy.

00:38:45.120 If you look to Switzerland or some others where they hold a lot of regular referenda, there will be multiple questions on the ballot.

00:38:52.980 People are saying it'll distract too much from the next question.

00:38:56.860 No, it won't.

00:38:57.640 Guys, we'll have nine questions on the ballot plus an independence question on the 19th.

00:39:03.160 I promise you, 90% of the discussion and coverage is going to be on the independence question.

00:39:09.000 It's going to dominate.

00:39:10.180 and it won't be on the same ballot because there's there's constitutional there's citizens

00:39:14.100 initiated there's non-constitutional it'll all be day but these are separate things people are

00:39:18.800 saying that'll violate the clarity act because it won't be clear if multiple ballots where where

00:39:23.880 are you pulling this stuff out of really there's nowhere in the clarity act that says that you can

00:39:29.480 have more than one on the same day it's still clear the point is the question being clear and

00:39:35.440 the answer being yes or no. And the APP has been very clear in making sure that that question is

00:39:43.560 the exact phrasing of the Clarity Act. John's saying, we want one question, not nine. We no

00:39:48.140 longer want a United Canada, and she has to stop. Well, okay, I know. I'd rather just one. We've got

00:39:54.460 the nine. And there is a good side of some of this. And part of it is that she is throwing all

00:40:02.960 spaghetti against the wall and knows it's going to fail look at some of the questions you know

00:40:08.520 do you support the alberta government uh in directly of basically a pro appointing uh judges

00:40:16.460 to the court of king's bench there's no way they're ever going to allow that to get through

00:40:22.180 not going to happen we're not going to have a constitutional gathering in canada of the first

00:40:26.560 ministers to pull any of these off anyways but having a whole summer of the rest of canada

00:40:30.280 telling us to get stuffed. Every one of these, when Smith puts those out and the rest of the

00:40:34.180 tells her to get stuffed, that tells people that voting us on the independence question

00:40:39.760 is the only course left. So she's doing all of the whatabouts for us because there's a lot of

00:40:45.320 people and I get these at these Q&As when I go to those, when I go to those meetings and I'm

00:40:49.180 speaking there and people have a lot of questions. There's a lot of undecided. What about this?

00:40:53.420 What about this? What about this? Have you tried this? Have you tried this? Have you tried this?

00:40:57.280 And they're genuine questions.

00:40:59.000 There's still people want to make sure that everything's been tried first.

00:41:02.240 Well, it's throwing it out there and showing that, yeah, she's going to try, but it's going to fail.

00:41:08.560 And so, you know, let's carry on with it.

00:41:10.960 Another, I know they're a waste of time.

00:41:13.580 I understand in that sense.

00:41:15.220 Do you support the government of Alberta working with governments in other provinces to amend the Constitution to abolish the Senate?

00:41:20.980 You know, Smith knows enough about politics to know that will never pass.

00:41:25.540 you need quebec and ontario who and the maritimes who already dominate the senate it's the other

00:41:30.420 area where they really run the government over top of the way there's no way in a million years

00:41:34.820 they're going to change that but it's good to remind everybody they'll never change it isn't it

00:41:38.980 so let's have it out there uh it's the other one allowing the province to opt out of federal

00:41:45.300 programs that intrude on provincial jurisdiction says health education social services

00:41:48.980 without the government losing any federal funding for its programs again

00:41:52.660 Again, the Laurentian elite, the Andrew Coins, the rest of them, they're going to tell Alberta

00:41:57.880 to go to hell on that.

00:41:58.640 That's fine.

00:41:59.360 That's fine.

00:42:00.580 And the other one is just a, it's almost bland.

00:42:03.780 It's talking about, you know, ending federal interference and laws dealing with provincial

00:42:06.700 and shared areas of a constitution.

00:42:09.660 I understand it's a lot of baffle gab.

00:42:12.820 It is a lot of paper that's going to be eaten up.

00:42:15.460 But I tell you what, if the independence movement isn't strong enough for people to

00:42:20.580 skip past those nine questions or whatever and vote yes or no on that question anyways,

00:42:25.120 then it's not strong enough to win. The question is clear on that. The question that will be on

00:42:32.260 that ballot is going to say, you know, do you want Alberta to become independent or not? And

00:42:38.060 you'll vote yes or no. So if we can't win based on that, you haven't won. You don't deserve to.

00:42:44.360 Alberta doesn't deserve to become independent. That's the bottom line. We've got the ability.

00:42:49.000 and uh you know again i don't think smith's perfect by any means i don't like every approach

00:42:54.880 she's done but i still applaud some of it in that she's given us the mechanism

00:43:00.300 that's something that's fully within her control she could have sat back and like let's say you

00:43:06.560 know when i play that devil's advocate like i talk about if i was pretending to be mark carney

00:43:10.500 let's say i was pretending to be smith who really wanted to shut down a referendum when the judge

00:43:15.000 said the question violated treaty rights and such and couldn't be held last last fall well boy i i

00:43:21.000 really wish we could give albertans the choice directly in a referendum on independence but alas

00:43:26.360 under the current system our justices have determined that it just can't happen because

00:43:31.080 of the the circumstances with the uh indigenous factor so a referendum can't be held and can't be

00:43:36.840 citizens citizen initiated i tried what i could i'm sorry about that let's move forward and you

00:43:42.680 you act as if you don't have a choice in it. Instead, what did she do? She amended Bill 14

00:43:46.760 or brought in Bill 14 to which amended the act so it could happen. That's not what somebody who

00:43:52.560 doesn't want the referendum to happen would do. Would she vote yes on the referendum? I don't

00:43:56.760 know. I think personally she probably wants the referendum held just for the political leverage

00:44:03.060 it gives her. That's always that hammer in the background. It helps her a lot. So I don't care

00:44:07.560 what her motivations are to be blunt. I just want the ability to vote yes or no and to campaign

00:44:12.660 on it and have that democratic vote. And so far we've got that. So stay focused on that.

00:44:18.400 And if she pulls the ability to hold a referendum, well, then we got a problem.

00:44:21.960 Then we got a different issue altogether. But so far we don't have that. And then, yeah,

00:44:25.240 there's a bunch of fluff in these non-constitutional questions too that are in there.

00:44:28.640 I'm not thrilled with that stuff. I mean, it's just polling really is all it's doing when you're

00:44:32.500 getting to that point. But there will be a bunch of referendum put before Albertans this fall.

00:44:37.260 I mean, we saw the equalization one, two from Jason Kenney and that went nowhere, right? 67%

00:44:41.900 of Albert and said, equalization is dumb and should be removed from the Constitution.

00:44:46.480 And Canada looked at it and said, yeah, well, that's a shame. Keep paying and we're not

00:44:50.220 transferring back to you. That's life. Either way, it's going to be one heck of a year. If you are

00:44:57.180 in Calgary or, you know, check out that independentstour.com. You can meet me tomorrow

00:45:00.760 night if it hasn't sold out yet. Edmonton was sold out. We're going to be hitting a bunch of

00:45:03.780 other spots, Grand Prairie, Medicine Hat, Lethbridge, and Westlock, I believe, as well.

00:45:08.480 and we can have these kinds of conversations in person be sure to tune into the pipeline tonight

00:45:13.200 uh we got marty up north with his show going nigel's got stuff derek just had an interview

00:45:17.480 with the premier actually i have to shamefully but i haven't had a chance to watch it i'm going

00:45:20.780 to watch it this afternoon so subscribe to those western standard channels guys share them with

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Western Standard - February 26, 2026

Don’t let the Kamloops residential school child burial hoax get swept under the rug!

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