In the first episode of the Cory Morgan Show, Cory talks about the recent Supreme Court of Canada decision allowing Freedom Honey to keep their honey, and how supply management is hurting farmers across the country. He also talks about how the government is trying to protect the dwindling number of dairy producers in Canada.
00:01:04.080We'll be checking in with Grandpa Dave Naylor pretty shortly with some big news.
00:01:08.880And, well, we'll be having a lot of discussion on other news items too.
00:01:12.660One thing I've got to get out of the way, it is a live show.
00:01:15.160So, yes, use that comment section there.
00:01:18.280Send me questions, comments, things for my guests.
00:01:21.020I expect, I'm surprised I haven't seen them here yet.
00:01:24.300But I might as well get it out of the way from Freedom Honey.
00:01:26.540Mike Miller. I was at a function yesterday up in Mirror, Alberta at the Whistle Stop Cafe and we had a taste off showdown for our different brands of honey. My honey from the Prittis area, the Prittis gold and his freedom honey. And I'm sad to admit in a decision of three to nothing, Mike's honey won. He does have the best honey in Alberta for now. I'm having a talking to with my bees. We're going to improve that product. The judges were Christine Anderson, Derek Smith and Tamara Leach.
00:01:56.140So maybe, you know, we can question those judges' judgment as well.
00:03:03.720People were shocked when an Ontario farmer released a video
00:03:06.180showing tens of thousands of litres of milk going down the drain in his operation.
00:03:10.160The cartels acted quickly, the video was pulled,
00:03:12.160and the farmer vanished from the public eye, and he won't do interviews.
00:03:15.500He'll likely have his licenses pulled if he act up again.
00:03:18.460Greedy dairy producers would rather see food go down the drain1.00
00:03:21.400than let citizens have a break on the price.
00:03:23.180And while Canadians are suffering from food inflation, over 7 billion liters of milk were dumped and destroyed in the nine years between 2012 and 2021 to ensure the prices remain high to protect the dwindling number of dairy producers.
00:03:35.840This should be a crime. In fact, if this sort of collusion and price fixing was done by any other industry, it would be a crime.
00:03:41.880And yes, the producers are dwindling. Despite the lie propagated by supply management defenders that the system protects family farms, it does the opposite.
00:03:48.780it. In the 1970s, Canada had 140,000 dairy farms. Now there's fewer than 9,200. Only large operations
00:03:56.280can afford to purchase the quotas, and they've been predatorily buying them up for years. Small
00:04:00.720operations have been squeezed out, and the penalties for running afoul of the supply management
00:04:04.660policies are harsh and quickly enforced. While violent gun-running repeat offenders are released
00:04:09.540on bail regularly, an older man in Alberta who committed the crime of selling eggs without a
00:04:14.440quote, I had five RCMP cruisers show up on his doorstep and he was jailed for days. Yeah,
00:04:19.420that's our priorities. Now, on top of all the social and economic damage caused in Canada by
00:04:23.560the supply management system, the policies could cost the nation billions as Trump increases
00:04:28.500tariffs on Canadian goods in response to it. Team Kearney went elbows down quickly enough
00:04:33.860when Trump demanded an end to the digital streaming tax, but they've dug their heels in
00:04:38.340when it comes to supply management. Indeed, even a number of cowardly conservative MPs voted in
00:04:42.660favour of a Bloc Quebecois bill entrenching protection for that policy. So if supply
00:04:47.540management is such a rotten policy, and it is, why does the government fight so hard to keep it?
00:04:51.920Well, the hint was in who sponsored that bill to protect it, the Bloc Quebecois.
00:04:55.700Canada's dairy industry is disproportionately represented by Quebec. A quarter of Canada's
00:05:00.720dairy production comes from Quebec and the quotas continue to move there. Meanwhile,
00:05:04.760prairie provinces with massive agricultural industries can't diversify further into dairy,
00:05:09.580eggs or poultry due to the quota limitations. It's just one more way the East is screwing the0.99
00:05:13.640West and Canada. Equalization is just the easier one to spot. Things like supply management are
00:05:18.000more subtle. It's hard to say if anything will pacify Trump. He seems to be determined to carry
00:05:22.280out a trade no matter what Canada does. The nation could capitulate to every demand and Trump might
00:05:26.560still impose heavy tariffs. There's little sense though giving Trump low-hanging fruit to attack
00:05:31.560when he tries to leverage more from Canada on trade issues. Canada's federal government has
00:05:35.240made supply management a hill to die on and it's done it with the participation of all parties.
00:05:39.580It's a pretty high price to pay for a small number of well-heeled dairy operations in Quebec.
00:05:45.080Oh, and I see Freedom Honey checking in there.1.00
00:05:47.120Well, you'll have to get to the earlier part of the show for me mentioning the showdown yesterday.
00:05:51.740All right, well, let's check in with Dave Naylor.
00:05:53.800I see our news editor, you've got some big breaking news.
00:09:50.880And Puff Daddy court today in New York.
00:09:54.320He was acquitted on all the serious racketeering charges and only found guilty of transportation
00:10:01.900of prostitutes across state lines, which is still, you know, you can get 10 years, but0.90
00:10:07.800I don't think he'll be doing any more time.
00:10:09.720And the crowds gathered and celebrated out in front of the courthouse, and women took0.96
00:10:14.500off their tops and douse themselves with baby oil. And if you've been following the trial
00:10:19.500coverage, you'll know what that means. I know. And I just, it's bizarre and disturbing and
00:10:25.680I don't know. It is. But, well, news is news. News is news. And news coming up at the bottom
00:10:31.060of the hour in a few minutes. Daniel Smith, the Premier, will be holding a press conference
00:10:35.220updating us all on what's happening with policing in Alberta and the move to get rid of those RCMP
00:10:40.860you guys. Yes. And our Jen Hodgson will be there reporting. Great. They're doing it at the
00:10:46.460Center of Coast. The good old MacDougall Center. A short walk from Western Standard World Headquarters.
00:10:53.240And Jen knows the walk well. Yes, she's been there once or twice. All right. Well, thanks for the
00:10:57.040update and congrats again, Grandpa. Thank you very much. You're going to get up to the coast soon to
00:11:00.940be able to see the list? Yes, certainly will. Certainly will. Excellent. All right. Well, I'll
00:11:06.100let you get back to catching up on your work so you can start making your arrangements to see your
00:11:10.080latest it's all on facebook now cory you know it's not the same it's not the same i know but
00:11:16.420i'm saying that's what i've been doing my morning you know sending up notifications and whatnot so
00:11:21.540right on so yeah the picture is already around the world uh ali's from mexico so it's down there
00:11:27.700and all my family in england has got it and yeah so it's good stuff right on okay thanks dave you
00:11:34.220bet. Thanks, Corey. So yes, D, that is our news editor. I'll just keep calling him Grandpa Dave
00:11:39.680Naylor. I think that kind of rolls off the tongue well there. But yeah, lots on the go, lots being
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00:12:20.060All right. Yes. Lots on the go. Back to Mike there with Freedom Honey. Yes, the winner. Another
00:12:26.840congratulations congratulations all over the place today except for me and my darned underperforming
00:12:32.760bees now if we had a supply management system perhaps we could force the purchase of my sub
00:12:37.080rate honey but I'd rather be competitive and raise the quality of it and bring that up along
00:12:44.320so I mean it's interesting development we're seeing that with conservatives you know in general
00:12:48.280this is what conservatives do to themselves in the party system all the time
00:12:52.040In BC, we're seeing that conservative members have split over there. They're forming a new party, even though their conservative party came within a hair's breadth of actually winning the last provincial election, but now they've started infighting and splitting amongst themselves.
00:13:07.120Here in Alberta, Pete Guthrie and Scott Sinclair, as Dave mentioned, they're two MLAs, they're disgruntled, they had grievances with Premier Smith's management, so they've been sitting as independents and now they're going to reform the Progressive Conservative Party.
00:13:23.380It's just such a strange approach, even.
00:13:26.400I mean, the breaking off, as I said, isn't unfamiliar.
00:13:28.680That just seems to be what conservatives do in general.
00:13:31.680But to want to revive the PCs of all parties, I mean, they went out in loathing.
00:13:38.320People were not exactly thrilled with them when they went out the door.
00:13:43.400When the merger came along under Jason Kenney and formed the UCP, not many people were shedding tears for the old progressive conservatives.
00:13:51.240That was the party of Alison Redford and her Sky Palace, and it was the party of Ed Stelmack and his attempted gouging on local energy companies.
00:14:00.840And that was the beginnings of the deficits, the return of the deficits.
00:14:04.720It was the party that was a dynasty that was in Alberta in power for over 40 years.
00:14:10.600but you just think maybe if you're going to try to start a new kind of conservative party
00:14:16.680alternative to the UCP, I don't know if you want to dig up the specter of the progressive
00:14:20.680conservatives. Federally, you saw the same thing. I think it was David Orchard who kept trying to
00:14:25.480keep the progressive conservative party alive federally as well out there. They just slowly
00:14:29.520died on the vine. But the bigger risk in Alberta, we've seen that before, when we get two conservative
00:14:35.100parties on the block, the NDP tend to win. So the person smiling the most right now as these guys
00:14:41.320are looking to start a progressive conservative party in Alberta or restart the progressive
00:14:44.480conservatives is NDP leader Nahed Nenshi, hoping that the vote splits because he's been trailing
00:14:49.260badly in the polls for quite some time. But if these guys and maybe the Alberta Republicans can
00:14:53.840take a bite out of the UCP support, maybe Nahed does have a chance of becoming the premier. And
00:14:58.500boy, if you want to see us become broke, I can't think of a better way to do it. All right, let's
00:15:02.300to our guest i've been looking forward to this this is a story you know i i've watched for years
00:15:06.300many of us had and she's an author of a number of books uh her name is lisa joy and she wrote
00:15:13.820the story david milgard wanted told and you know the story well because it isn't over unfortunately
00:15:19.820it's a tragic story and david milgard has passed away but we still need to examine and talk about
00:15:24.460it so uh let's bring uh lisa and she's just uh coming in through audio and and discuss this uh
00:15:29.740Hello, Lisa. Are you with us here today?
00:15:32.560Yeah. Hi, Corey. Thanks for having me.
00:15:34.880Much appreciated. So there are, you know, several stories about David Milgaard. I mean, it's such a striking and, as I said, tragic story, but there's a lot to be told. I guess with your book, what differentiates that from the others at this point?
00:15:50.700Well, no book has been done since the public inquiry into his wrongful conviction.
00:15:58.600So I went through the thousands of pages and the documents of that.
00:16:05.880And yeah, after, that's what's different, I guess.
00:16:13.060I just compiled all the pieces of the puzzle into one book.
00:16:16.360because a lot of the stories that were done after the inquiry it was before the internet age right
00:16:23.360well there's not it was all just in bits and pieces but when you put it all together in one
00:16:29.680puzzle it paints quite a picture yeah well and something that's really important with things
00:16:35.340like this I mean you can't undo the past you can't make up for the years that Mr. Milgaard
00:16:41.060you know, had stolen from him, even compensation. I mean, you know, it's understandable to give it
00:16:46.220to him, but it doesn't bring it back. But the other thing that's important is to make sure
00:16:50.500that this doesn't happen again, that we look back on it, what went wrong? How did this happen?
00:16:57.040And then make measures so that we don't have to see it happen again. But that we kind of that
00:17:01.880inquiry happened, and then everything just kind of died on the fine. Well, it's like one of Mr.
00:17:08.340Milgard's lawyer said James Lockyer from Innocence Canada he said the commissioner they appointed
00:17:14.360was very pro-police and pro-prosecution so I mean as Lockyer said it was a whitewash it was
00:17:22.820complete whitewash the inquiry. Yeah and I mean we can't improve anything unless we you know admit
00:17:30.680the errors to begin with I mean it doesn't mean it has to be a knock at all police or in convictions
00:17:34.860I mean, there's some, some very odious people out there who really belong behind bars.
00:17:39.880Uh, but we just want to make sure we get the right ones.
00:17:43.120And, uh, has there been anything that has been a result of this inquiry that changed
00:22:47.960And the thing is with this story, I mean, as you pointed out, it happened so long ago, most of the people, including Mr. Milgard and Fisher and the rest, they're all deceased now.
00:22:58.020So, I mean, it's not so much getting individuals held responsible, but wanting to get some policy changes to avoid this happening again.
00:23:05.620Pretty much. Yeah. I mean, when you look at all the pieces and all the things that went wrong, it's just unreal.
00:23:13.940how how could it not be a cover-up how could he not have been set up and like his lawyer david
00:23:20.900asper said police don't like coincidences and there's a lot of coincidences in this case well
00:23:27.860what would the motivation be to cover this up though i i mean why would they want to uh you
00:23:34.020know keep the wrong person incarcerated okay i gotta say that without getting myself sued oh i
00:23:41.060understand i mean they messed up with the conviction and then one of the main prosecutors
00:23:48.420went on to become an ndp mla okay right and so it became very political um that they were trying to
00:24:00.020protect the ndp mla allegedly yeah so they basically just kind of wanted this story to die
00:24:07.940yeah okay well so uh what what did motivate you though then to to get on to this and release a
00:24:15.460new book on it well when um he invited me to that webinar i did do an in-depth piece for sas today
00:24:24.260when i covered crime and courts for sas today but you can't put all the information in right
00:24:30.820so there was so much that you have to leave out um the book is over 300 pages it's just a lot of
00:24:39.280information um i guess i just felt like i owed it to him well i appreciate that and and you've
00:24:47.800written several books uh typically on a crime background right yeah yeah i i did another book
00:24:54.480on the Tiki Labrador murder in North Battleford.
00:25:35.860And she wrote The Story David Milgard Wanted Told.
00:25:40.320And it's just, it's a fascinating, tragic and Canadian story.
00:25:45.720You can't really read enough on it because we can't learn enough from it.
00:25:48.580I see one of our commenters, you know, Van Fashens, for example,
00:25:51.220saying if he had a bad reputation with woman, isn't it also possible that he had indeed raped
00:25:55.580someone? Maybe not the victim, but it was pretty common in the 70s. Oh, come on, man. Is it common
00:26:01.480rape in the 70s? Maybe more than now. But I mean, we don't convict people on a bad reputation.
00:26:07.740I mean, we can't say, well, he seemed pretty bad, so he probably got somebody else,
00:26:10.600so it's okay putting him in jail. Come on. It's the way our system works. You only convict people
00:26:17.660with evidence and you need to be as stringent as possible. That miscarriage of justice
00:26:25.160really impacted my thinking on justice a lot and things. And this has worked with conservatives. I
00:26:31.900have had debates before because I oppose capital punishment, very much so. And it's not that I have
00:26:40.760sympathy for some of the horrific, terrible people who are behind bars and not that I like the idea
00:26:46.080of spending money to keep some of those awful, uh, violent and, and, and torturous people alive
00:26:51.640behind bars. But I just don't trust our government to do something as irreversible as execute
00:27:00.320somebody. I mean, come on, we don't trust our government. That's kind of a theme of a lot of
00:27:04.460our readers and followers, you know, on these broadcasts and everything. Why do you want to
00:27:09.400give those guys the ability to execute citizens. And people say, oh, DNA proves everything. No,
00:27:16.520it doesn't, guys. No, it doesn't. In fact, there was quite a case in the eastern states with a lab
00:27:22.060that was compromised, and samples were contaminated, and all sorts of things happened.
00:27:28.240So in fact, DNA can do the opposite. If it's a contaminated DNA sample, and they say, look,
00:27:34.500the DNA proved that this person did this crime, we should execute them. Well, even with DNA,
00:27:39.400an innocent person could be killed. As I said, and it just, I just can't put myself in the shoes
00:27:45.980of Milgaard. Think of spending over 20 years of your young life in prison knowing you didn't do
00:27:53.600it, but that he could have been executed. At least he did eventually get released. He did
00:27:59.740get some compensation, did get to live for a while free. If they had executed him and people
00:28:05.960say, oh, we'll only execute when we're 100% sure. Guys, we're never 100% sure. Never. I don't trust
00:28:11.600our court system. I don't trust our government to be 100%. I want to see life sentences. I'd like
00:28:18.420to see people, you know, some of these horrible people, mass murderers, multiple murderers,
00:28:22.740child molesters. I want to see the doors welded shut on their cells. I want to be confident that
00:28:28.320they're going to die of old age in prison. But if it does turn out that this was wrong, at least
00:28:36.140you can try to undo a little bit of the damage that's there. I just think it's one of those
00:28:41.100areas where conservatives, they kind of study a little harder. How can you say over and over and
00:28:45.940over again that you can't stand government? You can't stand government overreach. You don't trust
00:28:49.080government. Oh, but let's give them the power to execute people. Well, hang on, right? Like they0.58
00:28:54.160don't even get your taxes right. And we know that the government doesn't always have our interests
00:28:59.640in mind, nor the prosecutors. And as Lisa pointed out, it gets politicized, right? So there was a,
00:29:06.360it sounds like a prosecutor who had political aspirations to become in provincial government
00:29:11.780over there. We see it with Tamara Leach, who we saw the other day. I still like her, even if she
00:29:17.820did judge my honey poorly yesterday. But look at this, the longest mischief trial in Canadian
00:29:25.780history. It's ridiculous. It's been years. It's mischief. And she's still waiting on the sentencing
00:29:31.520on this. And the words during that, when they kept putting her in and refusing bail, why? It had
00:29:39.280nothing to do with her being a risk to public safety, which is the point of holding somebody
00:29:44.140at least pretrial. If it looks like they're going to harm somebody, then yes, you don't give them
00:29:48.700bail. It was political. They wanted to make an example of her, and they still do. She embarrassed
00:29:55.600the government, her and Barber. So they're using the power of the government to try and stomp down
00:30:02.980contrary view. They're not using that power to protect us from risk or harm. So again, I ask,
00:30:10.920when you look at the nature of the government, at the nature of the prosecution, do you really
00:30:16.200want them having the ability to execute people? And I say, no, absolutely not. I mean, it's just
00:30:25.860brutal with what they've done with Leach and Barber. Again, I mean, that's what you're supposed
00:30:30.000to be asking yourself, right? If these people were let out, I mean, we can agree that they
00:30:34.480committed a crime, perhaps they committed mischief, fine, things like that. But are these crimes that
00:30:39.600It really needs somebody to spend years in court and possibly years in jail when we do have violent, violent offenders, sex offenders and others being released all the time.
00:30:53.660So unless you were much more confident in the ability of the government, I just don't have that much confidence.
00:30:59.560I don't want to have capital punishment ability.
00:31:03.580Was that pointed out from a commenter?
00:31:05.580Derek from Unacceptable Fringe also voted against my honey.
00:31:08.880it shows how corrupt the system is. Yeah, there you go. And Christine Anderson voted in favor of1.00
00:31:14.060Mike's Honey as well. So I lost on three counts. Even a member of the European Parliament,
00:31:19.700unfortunately, judged in favor of that. Maybe it's those weird European tastes. I don't know.
00:31:26.900You know, the event fashion is pointing out saying, yeah, my grandfather was a judge. I was
00:31:30.220supposed to go into law. The problem is there's law and there's justice and never the twain shall
00:31:33.860meet. The legal system is just another of the state mechanism. And that's it. You know,
00:31:38.660there's the problem. And I do believe that a lot of the efforts within the legal system,
00:31:43.820whether it's justice or legal, are genuine. I think most of the judges really do take their
00:31:49.040jobs seriously, most of the prosecutors, most of the defenders. But we're having difficulty,
00:31:53.520it seems, distinguishing between the people that we really need to keep incarcerated
00:31:57.180and, you know, the ones that just aren't providing or presenting harm to people.
00:32:02.800And it's always going to be a push back and forth on that. I mean, you know, legislation, law in general, it's fluid. And things are going to just have to keep working on things.
00:32:16.820All right, let's have a look at things again, back to the trade deal, right?
00:32:23.480It looks like Carney managed to elbow himself in the face.
00:32:28.140I got a little bit of sympathy for Carney, not much, but I got, you know, I hate to say it,
00:32:33.180but I don't know if Polly would be doing much better right now with trade with President Trump.
00:32:39.160Because Trump just does what Trump will do.
00:32:42.660I don't know if, as I said kind of in my monologue, even if the policies for supply management and the digital services tax were thrown out immediately, I think Trump would just find something else and keep pushing.
00:32:58.100But he's giving them easy targets. But boy, look how fast. That digital service tax, that hill to die on, they were screaming, there's no way we're going to back off on that. We're not getting rid of it. It's going to bring in billions. It's so important and it protects Canadians, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:33:12.660and they dropped it in a heartbeat because Trump said, hey, we are up, you know, all trade deals
00:33:20.380are off because of that. And then now it's supply management. But I mean, you get rid of supply
00:33:24.320management, I got a feeling Trump's going to find something else. I think we should get rid of
00:33:26.840supply management just because it's a crappy policy. It doesn't have much to do with Trump.
00:33:30.680But Carney's not having an easy time. Yet you look at the polls, and guess what? At least in
00:33:34.760Eastern Canada, the liberals are climbing in the polls. They like where Carney's going. I don't
00:33:39.460know what Carney's doing. I don't know if Carney knows what Carney's doing, but central Canada
00:33:44.720loves their liberals. Pat Dodd saying, Corey, thanks. I'm an Alberta separatist. I believe
00:33:50.400Alberta is the best place on earth. And after we become independent, we will be again with hard
00:33:54.680work, stronger laws, bring back capital punishment. See, I totally disagree with that, Pat. Not the
00:34:00.400whole statement, but the bringing back capital punishment. I do not want politicians having the
00:34:05.140ability to kill me. None of them, none of them, whether it's an independence one or another,
00:34:09.420I want justice reform. I want to see child molesters go away forever, but I just, they'll
00:34:16.560screw up guys. This is governments we're talking about. Governments screw up, even the ones you
00:34:21.140like. And, uh, it's just a matter of time. Uh, you know, Dave was talking about that earlier too.
00:34:27.940So here's some of the stuff we're going to have to see coming out of, uh, uh, if we want to talk
00:34:33.760about the independence movement. We want to talk about the frustration and what's going on in the
00:34:36.640West. Carney talking about getting rid of interprovincial trade barriers. And he's saying
00:34:42.500he's gotten rid of a bunch. Well, guess what? One of them is supply management because you can't
00:34:46.100trade those products across the borders because of the supply management system. So Carney lied
00:34:49.640there. He's not getting rid of it. The other thing though is getting pipelines. Are we ever
00:34:54.400going to get them or are we going to get more product to market? So as Dave mentioned, there's
00:34:57.740that group that's looking to bring liquid natural gas to Hudson's Bay by rail. And it's an
00:35:03.040indigenous group. And that's an interesting approach to it because the government uses the
00:35:09.540indigenous groups to hide behind as a reason not to approve anything. But now this is an0.97
00:35:14.120indigenous owned initiative to get it up there. So what do they do? I think this one might get
00:35:20.920across the line. I've talked to their principals before on that particular group. I think it's
00:35:25.960called Nistinan, and they're looking to bring liquid natural gas to the coast. Will it get
00:35:32.900done though? We've got so many layers and layers of crap because then there's other Indigenous1.00
00:35:36.860groups. This is, I was looking at stories in BC and across the country, Bill C-5 and then another
00:35:43.400bill in BC, these infrastructure bills and First Nations are concerned about environment and their
00:35:47.320rights. Oh, baloney. I'm getting tired of it. You know what? They're shaking people down. That's
00:35:51.440what it's come to now. It's just a shakedown. Guess what? Most of them oppose everything.
00:35:57.980Everything. They oppose it on principle. And somehow it always gets solved with enough of
00:36:03.680a payment, but it's harming all of us and it's driving investment away and we can't get anything
00:36:08.300done. It's about the environment. My ass. You know, pipelines. Most people don't even realize
00:36:16.360how many pipelines there are. Get out there and have a look around. Drive a highway, especially
00:36:21.780out west where we got a lot of oil and gas. And you see those little signs on the side and you
00:36:26.380realize there's high pressure oil and gas pipelines all over the place. There's tens of thousands. I
00:36:30.960think there's hundreds of thousands of kilometers of pipelines in Canada. Guys, they don't do much
00:36:36.080harm. You drive over those. Those pipes are in the middle of farm fields. You don't know they're
00:36:41.060there. They have next to no impact. What the environmentalist nutcases hate is the oil and1.00
00:36:48.160gas itself. I mean, ask Quebec how it went with rail with the oil when that train blew up over
00:36:55.080there. I mean, yes, some pipes rupture, but again, it's a 99.9% safety rate with pipes and getting
00:37:01.820product to an area. And what impact? Look at the impact of a road cut through the mountains,
00:37:08.960even the bush what you've got to do to build that road even a narrow gravel road you've got to cut
00:37:15.560the bush you've got to put the gravel down you've got to you know build the roadbed and then after
00:37:21.760that you've got vehicles coming up and down that road blasting back and forth on it they can run
00:37:26.020over animals birds insects you name it they're putting dust all over everything and they're
00:37:30.920giving access to more recreation or hunting or just abuse in general or people who might start
00:37:38.000fires or all sorts of things. Way, way more impact from a little gravel road going into the bush
00:37:43.640than a major pipeline. The Trans Mountain expansion, you go in the bush over in Alberta or BC
00:37:50.260and all you see is a wide cut line and it's not drivable, it's not accessible, and it's not
00:37:56.180leaking. The first Trans Mountain line, because this was an expansion of it, that's all it was,
00:38:02.400was putting a pipe next to another pipe. That pipe ran safely since the 1950s. Guys, there was
00:38:07.960not an environmental hazard from pipelines. There are real environmental problems out there.
00:38:13.320There are real impacts that happen from bad practices, but pipelines aren't part of it.
00:38:20.180Do they leak occasionally? Yes, we've got to make sure that doesn't happen.
00:38:24.120But these pipelines in of themselves, what does it do? And the native bands that are lighting
00:38:28.960their hair on fire, some of them aren't even within 100 kilometers of the line. It's money,
00:38:33.760guys, it's money. Pay me off or you aren't getting a pipe. You got to stop it. You know, it's time to
00:38:39.540start saying too bad. It's time to start realistically interpreting the treaties. There's nothing in the
00:38:46.720bloody treaties that says they have a say over that. There's a duty to consult. And that's if
00:38:52.500Carney really wants to get stuff done, he has to say, we don't need your consent. Don't have to be
00:38:59.500in their face and jerk about it. We will consult you. We'll sit down in good faith. We want to
00:39:03.180talk about it we want to hear your concerns but in the end you don't get to say no but he won't
00:39:09.360say that because he's a wimp he had one of his ministers actually did say that fraser he came
00:39:14.860out and said consent isn't required and he actually apologized for saying that later he apologized for
00:39:20.540telling the truth so how are we going to get anything done that's uh uh let's see you know
00:39:27.000yeah there's a fan fashions putting out bc and quebec dump raw sewage into the oceans and rivers0.91
00:39:31.000and it's true. You know, Ontario has tire dumps. Alberta has a toxic waste treatment plant.
00:39:37.820There's all sorts of environmental problems, real ones. And that's one that nobody ever talks about
00:39:42.880because why? Well, Victoria is the beautiful leftist land, right? Lotus land out there,
00:39:47.060the left coast. They're dumping raw sewage straight into the ocean, guys. They've been
00:39:51.020doing it for decades. Out in Quebec, yeah, they dump it right into the river regularly. And we're
00:39:57.620talking billions of gallons of poo. But where are the bad guys out here in Alberta? I don't think
00:40:04.640so. And you know, those were the ways we changed it out here. I grew up in Banff. I'll give one
00:40:08.660of those side stories. I was a kid in Banff. We used to go by the Banff Springs Hotel and fishing
00:40:12.540downstream in the river from the golf course. And Banff used to just dump its sewage in just
00:40:19.120straight. That's the way it was. You dumped it into the Bow River and I guess it filtered out
00:40:22.480enough or they figured it would by the time I got to Calgary. Now that's in the late 70s.
00:40:26.640We used to catch huge trout down from there.