Western Standard - Election Rundown Week 1

00:00:00.000 Would you let Jeffrey Epstein watch your kids?

00:00:07.380 Didn't think so.

00:00:09.380 What about his accomplice, Guy Lane Maxwell?

00:00:13.340 Hard pass.

00:00:15.420 So why trust him?

00:00:18.920 Mark Carney, Maxwell's friend, not yours.

00:00:30.000 Good day.

00:00:59.020 welcome to the cory morgan show second take this is uh week one of the election already feels like

00:01:05.740 it's a month in i don't know if you're sick of it yet i'm kind of getting there but i can't let

00:01:09.180 myself get totally sick of it because of course we're gonna be covering this for four more weeks

00:01:13.700 well we've been eager and pushing and wanting to see this election come i guess we shouldn't

00:01:18.820 complain about it now that it's finally here and boy it's it's uh not going in a direction a lot

00:01:23.980 of uh conservatives would have hoped for or expected but we'll see it's the early days we're

00:01:28.360 going to run down through some of that and what's been going on in the campaign and what to look

00:01:32.540 forward to and as uh every Friday we're going to cover this and go through a number of issues

00:01:37.300 polls other such things and it's interactive I see Jester in the comments girl already uh yes

00:01:43.340 get on there send your comments send your questions send things to my guests to me I see

00:01:47.220 them all I don't necessarily react to them all but uh I do see them and it keeps things moving

00:01:51.960 and keeps things rolling just keep them civil of course sometimes I've seen some crazy fights

00:01:56.740 breaking out in there. So in a little bit, I've got a number of guests coming on today.

00:02:01.720 Michael Nidafore, we're going to talk about electric vehicles. You know, nobody's talked

00:02:04.720 about corporate welfare or some of the craze net zero policies yet in this campaign. As I said,

00:02:10.260 it's only week one, maybe they'll get to it. But let's break the ground on that now because the

00:02:14.240 electric vehicle market seems to have kind of fallen apart, hasn't it? But we're still stuck

00:02:18.940 with the bill. Also, I'm going to have Chris Oldcorn. He's our bureau chief in Saskatchewan,

00:02:23.420 and he's going to give us the outlook on the election out there on the windswept prairie zone

00:02:28.440 of Saskatchewan, see what's happening out that way and what their view is on things coming up.

00:02:32.740 And then after that, I'm going to have Frances Widowson come on. She's a former professor from 1.00

00:02:37.440 Mount Royal University in Calgary, who has been outspoken on some of the Indigenous issues,

00:02:43.840 particularly the residential school, well, the Cameloops, 215 bodies that don't exist. She dared

00:02:51.560 to question that and of course she's uh got kicked out of her school and uh is paid a price for that

00:02:57.500 but she's still very outspoken and hasn't given up on it so to get things rolling out we'll start

00:03:02.580 and run down on the news and what's been happening with our news editor dave naylor and uh cover the

00:03:07.260 week uh that was so far in the quiet nothing going on sorry man i'm sorry we can talk about

00:03:14.000 rachel gilmore for a while there's always comic relief so uh yeah well well let's start the chat

00:03:19.920 was some, I guess, breaking news within the last couple hours. President Trump has talked to

00:03:25.800 Prime Minister Carney, and Trump issued a statement on Truth Social saying, very productive.

00:03:32.420 Didn't call anybody names, didn't call Carney the governor, said extremely productive, and

00:03:39.600 he's looking forward to meeting, you know, right after the election, which I thought was a bit

00:03:44.540 presumptuous, wasn't it, that Carney's going to win? Very much so. And it's strange,

00:03:49.780 You know, that's this unusual factor that, I mean, you know, we've watched a number of elections in our time.

00:03:54.680 Never so much when it's relied on an outside, unpredictable influence on the whole thing.

00:04:00.560 Like, how would now that impact support for Carney?

00:04:03.520 Would it make it look more solid in that people would think Carney might be able to calm down this crazy trade war?

00:04:09.720 Or will it harm his outlook because, hey, well, Trump likes him.

00:04:13.460 I can't like him.

00:04:14.520 Well, I think you can just see it in the polls that it's favoring Carney.

00:04:18.700 So far, I mean, just the fact that Trump didn't insult him, you know, Carney would have had to be breathing a deep sigh of relief.

00:04:27.740 And to be honest, it looks good that he can almost control, so to speak, Donald Trump, even though nobody can, but calm down Donald Trump.

00:04:36.960 But the other thing it's done is it's taken him off the campaign trail.

00:04:40.360 All right, so he gets to go act all prime ministerial and doesn't have to do any campaigning where he's exposed to that nasty media that he doesn't like dealing with.

00:04:52.000 So how long he'll stay behind closed doors, I guess, remains to be seen.

00:04:56.820 But, you know, it couldn't have come along at a better time.

00:05:00.340 You know, I guess fortunately for Conservatives, it's happened early.

00:05:04.280 As you say, we're only a week into it, a long time in politics.

00:05:08.220 and still a month ago, anything can happen.

00:05:10.580 But right now, the polls are all favoring Kearney.

00:05:13.660 Yeah, well, it's trending that people really have to watch for in polls

00:05:17.340 as opposed to where things sit.

00:05:18.880 And boy, those trends, I'm going to go over the polls a little later.

00:05:21.300 And those numbers are stark, and they aren't changing.

00:05:24.460 That trend continues.

00:05:26.040 It's hard to stop that train once it starts moving.

00:05:28.300 Yeah, even crazy Frank Graves has Polly of losing his seat,

00:05:32.720 which I don't believe for a second.

00:05:35.080 No, that's still the outlier.

00:05:36.820 but i mean everybody else is agreeing that there's definitely been a yeah i'm seeing a couple of

00:05:41.460 polls where the the the gap is narrowing it's not a 15 point lead for carney it's a you know

00:05:47.540 four or five point lead so you know there's still hope there um probably as we speak now poliev is

00:05:54.340 in uh nanaimo he's launched he's doing his big crime thing today where he's going to he's going

00:05:59.700 to lock up gun smugglers for life he's going to lock up fentanyl dealers for life so he's really

00:06:05.940 going to get uh get tough on crime um he started the week in ontario with large large rallies

00:06:14.020 thousands and thousands of people uh lineups for for blocks long so despite what the polls are

00:06:19.780 saying there's still some excitement you know when you get that big a rally in toronto that's

00:06:25.300 in southern ontario that's unusual uh and then as he moved west they had a huge rally last night in

00:06:31.380 surrey uh like 5 500 people uh poor jared our reporter had to park miles away because he

00:06:37.460 couldn't even get parking space you know what you know what he does for the weekend like he walks

00:06:42.420 like 50 kilometers in a day on purpose on purpose yeah he goes and you know he lives in downtown

00:06:47.620 vancouver he goes and visits his parents in like burnaby and he walks he's a bit nuts that guy

00:06:53.220 well that's we need that kind of nut uh there but he does have nice hair you gotta admit absolutely

00:06:58.020 i mean you know we have to we can only envy it but once he starts getting into our you know

00:07:01.700 50s and such uh we'll see how that holds out exactly so uh after today uh paulia flies to uh

00:07:08.900 uh winnipeg and they'll be holding a press conference tomorrow and a rally tomorrow

00:07:14.020 afternoon in winnipeg and uh our jen hodgson will be will be covering that so stay tuned for that

00:07:19.700 it's interesting with nanaimo though picking for justice i mean that's a city that

00:07:23.300 you know if people aren't familiar with the west or familiar with vancouver island i mean 0.98

00:07:26.340 In Vancouver, it's beautiful in those cities and the coastline and everything, but Naimo, to be blunt, is a shithole. 0.95

00:07:31.840 Yeah, that's not the nicest of places.

00:07:34.080 It's gone really rough a lot due to the epidemic of opioid addiction and so on on the island.

00:07:39.840 But there's been a lot of stories over the years of frustrated citizens, you know, with that light on crime, with that enablement thing in B.C.

00:07:46.980 I mean, East Hastings, everybody thinks so, but they don't think of Naimo.

00:07:50.000 And that's an area that I think this instance will respond to a tough on crime.

00:07:52.860 And not even Nanaimo.

00:07:54.160 Go to Victoria and look at all the homeless people and the drug epidemic there.

00:07:58.160 It's out of control.

00:07:59.600 And I think this is what Poliev has to do.

00:08:03.100 He's lost the Trump battle.

00:08:05.360 Let's give that to Carney.

00:08:06.680 But now he's got to start hammering issues like crime, like he's doing today.

00:08:11.740 And hopefully that will get more people's attention and, you know, back on his campaign and thinking, yeah, the last 10 years have been kind of rough.

00:08:21.480 So about a spare a tear for Jagmeet.

00:08:26.120 Oh, yes.

00:08:26.720 Poor Jagmeet.

00:08:27.520 I remember he was in there.

00:08:28.460 Yeah, he's in southern Ontario, but he's got, because they can't afford a plane,

00:08:32.900 he's got like six-hour bus rides between events.

00:08:35.920 And I think he had an event in Ontario where less than 20 people showed up.

00:08:40.240 I just hope he's using these, you know, these six-hour bus rides to work on his resignation speech

00:08:45.700 and just get it down perfect.

00:08:48.780 He's certainly an also ran.

00:08:50.280 I mean, that's another factor, aside from the Trump factor, though, that that's really, I mean, the Liberals, the stars are just lining up for them.

00:08:56.520 Yeah.

00:08:56.820 And the absolute collapse of the NDP under Singh.

00:09:00.520 I mean, in the days when Jack Layton was there, well, that really came at a hard price for the Liberal Party.

00:09:05.760 But now that Singh has pretty much obliterated his own party, the Liberals are the beneficiaries of this.

00:09:10.920 Absolutely.

00:09:11.520 I mean, there are some polls that have them down to, like, winning two or three seats.

00:09:15.980 You know, it looks good on them, keeping Trudeau in power all those years.

00:09:20.280 couldn't happen to a nicer party.

00:09:22.320 Well, I think that's part of it, right?

00:09:23.520 I mean, so much time he was hand-in-hand with Trudeau throughout then. 0.88

00:09:27.560 People were saying, well, if it's the same darn thing,

00:09:30.300 I might as well vote for the Liberals that put Liberal on their name 0.90

00:09:32.280 rather than somebody who pretends to be something else.

00:09:34.940 So I think probably by the end of April,

00:09:36.620 we'll be seeing him drive off into the sunset in his Maserati.

00:09:40.500 Yeah, I do.

00:09:41.040 And Rolexes and $1,000 rockers or whatever he had

00:09:45.920 when he was having his babies.

00:09:47.200 Maserati Marxist, yes.

00:09:48.440 Yes. So, yeah, quiet week in politics, Cory, and I'm sure it'll be the same next week.

00:09:56.580 Well, yeah, let's see what pops up. All right. Well, thanks for the update. I'll let you back

00:10:01.640 into the newsroom to carry on trying to search for stories amidst that blight of...

00:10:06.320 Yes, it's not difficult to find them these days, that's for sure.

00:10:09.140 Right on. Thanks, Dave.

00:10:09.980 Thanks, Cory.

00:10:10.500 All right. So, yes, that is our news editor, Dave Naylor. And as you heard, though, there is a lot to

00:10:14.960 cover. I mean, not just electoral. We cover stuff from all over. I mean, there was a horrific

00:10:18.480 earthquake, unfortunately, in Asia. There's a terrible video of an office building that was 0.99

00:10:24.480 half-constructed, and the earthquake hit, and the thing collapsed. It's just terrible. You know,

00:10:29.740 obviously, there were people working within that thing and trying to get it built at the time in

00:10:33.080 Thailand. It's one of the things of modern media, unfortunately. We see things like we never used

00:10:38.240 to in real time. And sometimes I worry, we get too inured to it, right? You know, when I grew up

00:10:45.720 reading newspapers, watching TV, you didn't quite see the blood, the gore, the bodies of things as

00:10:51.380 they happen. And social media comes to you unfiltered. I don't know if that's a great

00:10:55.160 development. Should we bury our heads in the sand to rough things or not? Either way, we do cover

00:11:00.000 everything and stuff all over. As I say, we have a busy newsroom. You can see it back there behind

00:11:05.460 I mean, this is what I like to remind you, the reason we have that newsroom, the reason we're covering these things.

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00:12:29.460 commenter there, Doug saying, a diehard conservative, I'm hoping Carney wins, separation gets here

00:12:36.380 sooner. You know, that's going to be an interesting thing as we watch this. If the liberals make this

00:12:44.700 comeback, if it happens, and they turn this around, you know, from being down at like 17% in the polls

00:12:50.900 to what now, and I'm going to go through the polls in a little while, might even be coming into a

00:12:55.800 majority government again, the rage in the West is going to be something else. I mean, it's kind

00:13:02.840 of been a thing with the West. We've always been uncomfortable with liberal governments who don't

00:13:06.640 get along with them, but it's kind of, you know that every 10 years or so, it's going to turn

00:13:11.320 over. You'll get a break. You'll get a breather. You'll get a conservative government that'll at

00:13:15.940 least be a little less bad to the West than the liberals. But here we are 10 years after one of

00:13:20.140 the worst governments we've ever seen. And it looks like we might be going into a new cycle

00:13:25.220 of another 10 years, people are going to lose it. They are going to have had enough. And I don't

00:13:31.300 know. I don't know. I've been an independent supporter for a long time, but I don't want to

00:13:36.140 wish misery on everybody in order to get there. It's just such a bizarre, unpredictable, divided,

00:13:43.900 weird outlook we've got through this whole election. As well, as Dave said, Carney is,

00:13:49.980 Yeah, he's been doing the negotiations with Trump.

00:13:52.980 He's been speaking as the prime minister.

00:13:56.540 That's part of his job right now, you know, just under our system.

00:13:59.700 I don't like where that sits, but that's the truth of it.

00:14:02.180 He kind of switches the hats back and forth.

00:14:04.660 For a while, he's the candidate.

00:14:05.920 For a while, he's the prime minister.

00:14:06.980 You do need, you know, what they call a caretaker government over the course of an election campaign.

00:14:12.640 So that's what he's doing.

00:14:13.840 Cabinet is still there.

00:14:14.800 He still has to meet with Trump.

00:14:16.100 He still has to try and get through this trade war that's messing with everybody.

00:14:20.220 But it's helping him too, right?

00:14:21.980 Nothing better than looking prime ministerial during a campaign.

00:14:25.880 And again, as I said to Dave, the stars just seem to keep lining up for this party.

00:14:31.100 So it works out great for Carney.

00:14:32.940 He's getting far more support out of playing prime minister

00:14:36.000 rather than on the campaign trail and doing rallies and such.

00:14:40.000 And we could be paying a terrible price for that in a while.

00:14:43.760 Either way, we've got to keep reminding people of the record of this government, the record of this party.

00:14:48.460 And my next guest, who's coming right up here, Michael Nidafor, is going to talk a bit about that.

00:14:53.380 We're going to talk about electric vehicles.

00:14:54.640 We're going to talk about corporate welfare.

00:14:56.260 We're going to talk about this obsession.

00:14:59.280 So let's bring Michael in and get on to some of that.

00:15:02.960 So how are you doing out there?

00:15:04.460 I'm doing well.

00:15:06.200 Waiting for the party.

00:15:08.420 All right.

00:15:09.600 Excellent.

00:15:10.120 Well, I appreciate you coming on to talk to us.

00:15:12.060 I've seen you on other shows and interviews talking about this.

00:15:17.480 EVs, you know, they were going to be the great saviour.

00:15:19.560 We've listened to 10 years of this.

00:15:21.360 They were going to change the world.

00:15:23.100 They were going to end climate change.

00:15:24.620 They were going to create a great local bustling EV manufacturing economy, battery plants.

00:15:30.600 It all seems to have kind of fallen by the wayside all of a sudden, hasn't it?

00:15:33.560 Well, it happens. I think that a lot of people who made these decisions and if you're talking about the markets, the people who came up with this forgot all about it.

00:15:52.560 Yeah, we're having a bit of connection problems. It's getting difficult to hear you a little bit there. We'll just give it a moment. Hopefully it catches up a little for you there.

00:16:00.040 and uh but yeah i mean the evs you know we've seen these battery plants these were celebrated

00:16:05.560 the ontario government doug ford uh we've seen quebec government pumping subsidies into some of

00:16:11.260 them and of course the federal government all hand in hand and none of them seem to have created

00:16:16.640 those jobs and and now they seem to be closing their doors well what's happened it was a bad

00:16:23.940 So, should we be backing out of the EV market, though, then?

00:16:39.600 Should the government disassociate the EV market and go from there?

00:16:46.700 You'll have to repeat.

00:16:48.700 I'm getting a lot of...

00:16:49.700 Yeah, we're having difficulties hearing you.

00:16:53.080 Perhaps if you could give it a try to log out and in again, we'll see if you can get a better connection.

00:16:58.420 I'm afraid we're having a very difficult time hearing from you there, Michael.

00:17:01.660 Great, thank you.

00:17:03.420 So, yeah, getting back to that while Michael, you know, kind of logs in and out,

00:17:07.480 and hopefully we can sort out those connection issues going on there.

00:17:11.760 Electric vehicles, the apparent saviour, though, right?

00:17:14.680 I mean, $50 billion with a B.

00:17:18.300 Not all of that's been spent, but a whole bunch has been committed to these battery plants, these things out in, of course, always Quebec, Ontario.

00:17:26.920 You don't see any Western Canadian battery plants because that's not a priority for winning the votes, right?

00:17:34.680 But they've partnered with Volkswagen, again, speaking of things that aren't Canadian and so on, and they never got built.

00:17:40.740 Like, this should be, I think, should be almost a forensic investigation following up on these things.

00:17:45.600 What's going on?

00:17:46.380 And not to mention now, the top electric vehicle supplier, you know, the one that cornered about 25% of the market was actually Tesla, Elon Musk.

00:17:57.600 And Musk is now on the outs. Nobody likes Teslas any longer.

00:18:01.740 Well, that's the one that broke the most ground for electric vehicles within North America.

00:18:07.660 And then the other ones that were coming in around the world, you're seeing in Mexico, you're seeing in Europe, like them, hate them, whatever, were Chinese-made EVs.

00:18:15.820 Those were starting to build up.

00:18:17.640 I guess part of the problem was that EVs weren't affordable.

00:18:19.800 Your average person couldn't get one.

00:18:21.180 They cost much, much more than your average vehicle.

00:18:24.320 Well, China provided affordable ones.

00:18:26.920 Now, they could be accused of dumping, perhaps.

00:18:29.440 Maybe they were not valuing them right.

00:18:31.520 I don't know.

00:18:32.140 But Canada jumped on with 100% tariff on Chinese EVs.

00:18:36.140 They said, no, you're going to double the cost of those things if you buy them in Canada.

00:18:40.420 Well, what did you think was going to happen?

00:18:42.220 China has now responded.

00:18:43.540 so to try they're now they're going after our canola and a lot of things we export to china

00:18:51.280 which is hurting guess again the west western farmers are taking a beating to protect an

00:18:58.220 electric vehicle manufacturing market that doesn't actually exist in canada what a terrific mess we're

00:19:03.880 in but we're not hearing about that in this election are we let's bring michael in and see

00:19:07.140 perhaps it's a little more clear now hey how you doing michael we got a little more straight

00:19:11.300 connection well i can hear you are you okay with me uh it just keeps breaking up on your audio i'm

00:19:20.020 afraid i'm having a very difficult time understanding uh what you're saying well well it's a

00:19:25.860 technical issue and i i i can hear a lot of that okay yeah and i'm afraid we'll have to try and

00:19:32.980 bring in another time michael i i really appreciate you you're coming in today but we

00:19:36.500 I guess, I'm afraid the listeners just can't quite pick up what you're saying.

00:19:41.260 Okay, let's do it.

00:19:42.700 It was an important topic, for sure.

00:19:44.820 All right, thank you very much.

00:19:46.140 Okay, thank you.

00:19:46.920 Thank you.

00:19:47.340 Bye.

00:19:47.720 All right.

00:19:48.900 So, yeah, that was Michael at night at four, and I'm afraid, yeah,

00:19:52.180 we just can't seem to resolve whatever that audio issue is.

00:19:54.740 Sorry about that, guys.

00:19:56.040 Because, yeah, I saw him speaking on a different interview,

00:19:58.800 and he had a lot of very good things to say on, as he said, a very important issue.

00:20:05.100 All right, well, let's turn a bit here and see.

00:20:09.820 This was the week, the week that was when we get into the election.

00:20:14.100 What they were all talking about, aside from, there's a Trump thing, the trade thing, is tax cuts.

00:20:23.700 And, you know, it's funny because Carney just does a carbon copy of everything Pollyoff does,

00:20:29.300 which is really ironic too because an issue that just broke today from the National Post

00:20:32.520 was it sounds like Mark Carney, when he did his thesis back in Oxford,

00:20:40.380 you know, years and years ago, at 10 different spots,

00:20:43.600 it appears he might have been plagiarizing for his papers, for his work.

00:20:49.440 You know, when you look at his campaign today,

00:20:52.060 it doesn't seem that surprising at all now, does it?

00:20:54.500 Because it's the same thing.

00:20:56.420 Everything Polly says, Carney just regurgitates. 1.00

00:21:00.200 But what's maddening for Polyev and pretty much any of us watching is it's working.

00:21:04.740 It's working.

00:21:05.680 So Polyev has been saying he's going to cut the capital gains tax increase.

00:21:11.660 Carney says he'll do the same.

00:21:14.200 Polyev says he's going to cut the GST on new homes.

00:21:17.620 Carney says he's going to do the same.

00:21:19.400 Polyev says he's going to cut the income tax for low income bracket.

00:21:23.400 Carney says he's going to do the same.

00:21:25.000 Nothing original is coming out of Carney.

00:21:26.980 They're basically just playing follow the leader.

00:21:29.280 But typically, typically when you do that, it doesn't work for you.

00:21:34.660 Typically, the first person out of the gate with those policies will take the credit for it.

00:21:38.700 But this bizarre lineup in Canada, whatever's going on, it's working.

00:21:44.740 It's working.

00:21:45.640 People are saying, well, Carney will do all that.

00:21:47.260 We don't need poly-up.

00:21:48.860 Why, Canada?

00:21:50.260 Why are you believing liberals today when they've lied to you for 10 solid years?

00:21:57.460 I don't understand that.

00:21:59.280 They haven't changed. The only thing that's changed is Carney himself, that the same old cabinet ministers are all running under Carney.

00:22:07.480 In fact, some of them came back, you know, Anita Anand, Fraser, the ones who said, we're going to spend more time with our family, so I'm not going to run again.

00:22:14.580 Ooh, look at that. The polls change. Suddenly they want to spend more time with their family.

00:22:18.240 Their family must be feeling a little bit abused right now, aren't they?

00:22:21.040 But as a Canadian, I'm sure feeling abused, but it's working. 1.00

00:22:23.340 I mean, some of it too. Coconut Lock, one of the commenters, pointing out, you know, CBC is spinning the story. Absolutely. Legacy media and state media are shilling for the Liberals for all they're worth. They are behind and pushing because they're subsidized.

00:22:43.400 The party, the one thing that Carney hasn't said, and it's funny,

00:22:46.820 Polyev has been kind of quiet about that lately,

00:22:49.800 is that Carney will never cut the subsidies to the media.

00:22:54.300 Polyev probably will.

00:22:56.640 And he certainly, he was speaking pretty clearly on defunding the CBC.

00:23:01.460 So they're fighting for their lives, basically,

00:23:04.280 because they don't want to adjust.

00:23:05.260 They don't want to adapt.

00:23:06.020 They want to become like us, for example,

00:23:07.720 where we become accountable for subscriptions and advertisers.

00:23:10.780 They just want to get handouts.

00:23:12.720 And the Liberals are the only ones that are going to give them those handouts.

00:23:15.260 So, of course, they're going to favorably cover the Liberals.

00:23:17.280 We talked a little bit about this in a past show.

00:23:19.060 One of the commenters brought it up.

00:23:20.720 Then I'll bring up the polls in a moment.

00:23:23.100 With why, you know, the thing that was interesting is the demographic.

00:23:28.300 That's switching.

00:23:29.460 It's the young people who are still supporting the Conservatives.

00:23:32.300 Like, it's totally topsy-turvy.

00:23:34.860 It used to always be Conservatives were the home for older Canadians, older voters.

00:23:39.680 and Liberals were the home for the left-wing, progressive-type voters.

00:23:46.080 And now it's the Conservative older voters have all gone to the Liberals for some bloody reason.

00:23:54.160 Part of it is that the older Canadians still watch the older media.

00:23:59.000 They don't go to the Western Standard or True North or some of the other alternatives online,

00:24:04.980 the independent outlets.

00:24:05.900 They still watch CTV, CBC, Global.

00:24:09.680 So they're getting all their news from that slant.

00:24:12.080 They're getting that filtered pro-liberal news coverage.

00:24:16.840 And it's impacting them.

00:24:18.520 And it's keeping them.

00:24:19.340 You know, younger people, they get their news online.

00:24:22.700 They've changed.

00:24:23.460 They've adapted.

00:24:25.320 So strangely, we've got this flip around.

00:24:29.380 But this should be very, very concerning for the conservatives too.

00:24:31.880 You see, one of the reasons that when polling comes in, often conservatives get a better result than the polling will hint.

00:24:39.680 part of it's because the conservative supporters were more inclined to get out to vote. It's one

00:24:43.500 thing to respond in a poll saying, I would vote for this, I would vote for that. But if it's a

00:24:47.140 lot of youth who actually, oh geez, there's a good party on tonight, I'm not going to bother 0.90

00:24:50.840 going out to vote, older people tend to get off their butts and go out and vote. So it gets better 1.00

00:24:55.300 represented at the polls. Well, when the older people are now supporting the liberals,

00:24:59.900 the youth of the conservative space, the conservatives have got that much more to be

00:25:03.860 worried about. And so I'm going to bring up the polls here in a couple images. One is from

00:25:08.860 abacus data. They've been, and this is bad news, guys, they've been the ones showing the least

00:25:16.060 amount of support for the Liberal Party all the way throughout. But even they, you know,

00:25:24.040 have to admit, now they've actually shown the Liberals have pulled into the lead. Look at that

00:25:28.780 trend line, that red line that went from 20% all the way up now, almost doubled to 38%.

00:25:37.020 And remember, this is the most modest projection of where the Liberals are sitting.

00:25:42.960 You can see the Conservatives, they peaked at 47-46% and have dropped now down to the 39-38%, 8-9 point drop, which again mostly went to the bloody Liberals.

00:25:55.840 And the other part, as I was talking with Dave about, is that yellow line you can see at the bottom.

00:26:02.240 That is the NDP, and they are just cratering.

00:26:05.960 And this poll down to 11%.

00:26:07.820 Again, NDP voters who are disenchanted are not going to go conservative.

00:26:12.200 They go liberal.

00:26:13.180 We're actually seeing a strategic vote in action.

00:26:16.800 And that doesn't happen that often, realistically, actually.

00:26:19.840 People talk about strategic voting, but often they'll vote with their heart or with local policies or things like that.

00:26:27.000 They won't take it so much, I'm going to vote for this just to keep them out, even though I like this party better.

00:26:32.000 That's what's happening.

00:26:32.820 The NDP voters, the traditional NDP voters tend to like the NDP, but they're saying, I'm scared, Polyev's going to come in and he's going to, you know, cut my welfare payments or whatever it might be.

00:26:44.960 So thus, I will switch my vote to the Liberals just to keep that from happening.

00:26:48.920 It's a negative reason to vote, but it's what they are doing and it's working.

00:26:54.340 And now it'll get a little scarier, I'm afraid.

00:26:56.340 I'll go to the CBC poll tracker.

00:26:58.940 And that one is a seat projection.

00:27:02.340 So this is where they kind of chew through the results.

00:27:04.540 This gets a little more difficult to figure out what's happening with,

00:27:08.280 but you work at, because, you know,

00:27:09.380 ridings by ridings can mess with things.

00:27:12.060 But what they are seeing,

00:27:13.600 and as you see that kind of faded line around the top,

00:27:16.360 that's the majority level.

00:27:17.540 That's the 100-seat level.

00:27:18.800 That's winning a full government.

00:27:21.360 And the Liberals, look at that red line down below.

00:27:24.060 Look where they were sitting.

00:27:25.520 They were sitting at like 10, 12 seats just back in January,

00:27:29.720 just a month and a half ago.

00:27:31.620 they are now looking two seats into a majority stronger than they even were going into the

00:27:38.660 election this is terrifying and again look at the conservative plummet that is putting them below

00:27:44.220 a majority level this is scary stuff even the block is dipping and that's scary again the

00:27:52.540 liberals everything is lining up for them this is a perfect storm of liberal hell approaching us

00:27:57.700 guys. The bottom lines you can see there, that's the Green, not the Green Party, the NDP and the

00:28:05.000 Bloc, both cratering, again, to the benefit of the Liberals. If things do not change dramatically,

00:28:12.720 we're looking at a Liberal majority, unimaginable, only a month and some ago. I've never seen

00:28:17.240 anything quite like it. I'll just show one more poll because it's kind of the same all over,

00:28:21.400 but it's Main Street, and they were kind of in the middle of things, you know, again, Frankie

00:28:25.920 graves of the ecos yeah he's crazy he his polls are really unreliable but you know these main

00:28:30.360 street and abacus and others you can't dismiss them and uh we're looking at 44 percent uh for

00:28:37.840 carney now 41 for the conservatives it sounds like a small difference but that that's that's

00:28:44.160 the difference between a majority government and a minority and these trends you know it looked like

00:28:49.020 it was outliers. It looked like it was side things, but there's just too, too many pollsters

00:28:56.960 reporting the same thing. Even Doug Ford, somebody dug out internals. You know, that's where you get

00:29:02.860 your best polls. I talked about that in a previous show. The best polls tend to come from internal

00:29:08.180 party polling because they actually just want to know what it is. They don't necessarily release

00:29:11.640 them, but they want to know what's going on out there. And Doug Ford's own internal polling,

00:29:15.280 Somebody leaked that out, and it showed the Liberals are getting poised for just, again, a wipeout in Ontario.

00:29:21.700 They are going to clean up the seats out there.

00:29:25.000 Whether or not that changes in the West, I don't know.

00:29:27.720 You see, some of these are a little nuts, and that's where you wonder about the seat projections.

00:29:31.640 Because, I mean, one of them called for five seats to be won in Alberta.

00:29:36.300 I mean, Alberta's got a few spots. 1.00

00:29:37.640 We've got two Liberal seats.

00:29:38.960 Both Liberal MPs went down in disgrace.

00:29:40.820 We got Chahal who's you know non-affectionately known as the porch 1.00

00:29:46.160 pirate and one of them and we've got the Randy's you know up north he's not

00:29:50.660 running again Randy boys and all who just again went down in scandal but

00:29:55.040 those two seats still might go liberal again and they might gain one or two in

00:29:58.280 parts of Edmonton maybe another one seat in Calgary what's going on so you know

00:30:03.320 I'm looking forward to Chris Oldcorn when he when he gets here and that's a

00:30:07.500 little while yet okay we've got some time to go here realizing now when my schedule gets thrown

00:30:13.740 so we're looking at uh not five seats in alberta saskatchewan's got zero seats going on right now

00:30:23.740 for the liberals will that change i don't know chris will probably let us know as as we discuss

00:30:29.960 things when we get rolling on stuff uh kenzie kraken one of the commenters saying you know

00:30:35.200 Funny that the rallies don't support those polls.

00:30:37.920 Yeah, you know, what the rallies are showing, and there's truth,

00:30:41.920 is Polyev is showing up in places Dave mentioned a couple of those.

00:30:45.380 Thousands of people are coming out, and they're waving the signs,

00:30:47.720 and it's showing energy, and it looks good.

00:30:53.300 But you've got to remember, 5,000 people in a city of a couple million aren't much.

00:30:59.100 Those are the party loyal.

00:31:00.880 It shows good ground organization.

00:31:02.680 It shows a party that knows how to campaign, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to translate to votes.

00:31:13.160 You've still got to keep doing it, absolutely, but we can't read into these rallies as well.

00:31:18.120 We've got to remember as well, I mean, here's another factor that I know some people speak of,

00:31:22.500 is Maxime Bernier's People's Party, which just sits down there at 2%, 3%, doesn't seem to change.

00:31:30.720 He held some huge rallies a few years ago.

00:31:33.500 They really rode the wave of discontent, particularly with the COVID restrictions.

00:31:39.000 And people were certainly looking for alternatives.

00:31:41.240 And that brought it up into more of the double-digit support in some places, 10, 12.

00:31:44.800 But still never concentrated in one spot enough to possibly win a seat.

00:31:49.320 But they held some very, very big rallies as well.

00:31:51.880 But it didn't translate to a seat.

00:31:54.400 And the thing that's happening right now, the thing that's changing everything that's helping,

00:32:00.720 is, uh, being able to, well, it's the Trump factor, uh, E sharp, a commenter saying Trump's

00:32:08.460 offer sounds good. Just saying, I, I don't know if you're talking about the 51st state thing.

00:32:13.860 Uh, perhaps you are, uh, you know, to some people, uh, they, they, they think the 51st

00:32:22.360 state thing sounds good. Fair enough. You know, and I've had a lot of discussion with individuals

00:32:26.600 about that in the last while i've been an independent supporter for a long time i mean

00:32:30.600 i wrote a book on it literally but the 51st state thing has always been a fringe thing even within

00:32:39.720 the independence movement and i think a lot of people i mean there's some people very strongly

00:32:46.120 want to go that route but if i i mean i'm just gonna spitball and throw it out here right now

00:32:52.040 even though it brought it into the discussion we've seen it more since trump started all that

00:32:55.400 stuff you know that that discussion about a 51st state thing we've seen it more in the last month

00:33:00.360 than we've seen in the last decade but in reality if you held a referendum tomorrow in alberta

00:33:05.960 about the 51st state i would be shocked if more than 15 people said yes shocked independence

00:33:15.960 maybe we're looking at 30 or 40. it's not there yet but it's a stronger base i i've talked about

00:33:22.280 that i went on a speaking tour with the alberta prosperity project all over alberta we were giving

00:33:27.400 speeches i'll just tell the story again because it's important and we go to rooms anywhere from

00:33:32.360 30 people to sometimes a few hundred people and uh dr dennis modry and he's going out with that

00:33:38.280 delegation on the uh alberta 51 thing or whatever and he would always start he was always the first

00:33:43.240 speaker and he'd like to pull the room and he'd just do the straw poll to get everybody to raise

00:33:47.960 their hands and this is again a very independence leaning room already and he would say okay everybody

00:33:52.600 you know we know you're here because you're not happy with things where they're sitting right now

00:33:57.960 so what's your vision of independence though and he said you know raise your hands be honest

00:34:01.800 everybody so the the first one he'd say you know is what what about alberta gaining a little more

00:34:06.520 independence but still staying within the united canada and uh there'd be a handful of hands that

00:34:10.920 go up you know they just want some more provincial independence but they don't really want to step

00:34:13.800 out the door okay they say you know what about having nothing change of course nobody in the

00:34:17.160 in the room would say anything. What about full independence for Alberta? And you know, most of

00:34:21.120 the room's hands would go up or a lot of hands. And then what about a combination of Alberta, 1.00

00:34:24.780 Saskatchewan, BC? Okay, that would go up. And then he would ask about what about joining the United

00:34:28.840 States? And seriously, it was only a two or three hands would go up in a room typically. It was a

00:34:33.560 minority of the bunch. There were some there, always were, and that's fine. I think that number's 0.99

00:34:38.120 gone up, but to a tipping point where it could be won in a referendum, I find it very unlikely and

00:34:47.620 very hard to believe. And there's just way too many variables going on. Wilder was a commenter

00:34:53.200 saying, I'd rather, you know, similar idea there, you know, I'd rather Alberta be independent and

00:34:56.900 sovereign, but if my only choice is Canada States, I'd go American. Okay. Like people are discontent

00:35:01.260 in general. Kenzie Kraken pointing out, I saw a poll showing independence at 40%. That's as high

00:35:07.740 as pretty much it's ever been.

00:35:09.740 Now, you've got to understand the difference between a poll

00:35:12.160 and actually voting for something.

00:35:15.580 So, I mean, I ran under an independence banner in a couple of elections.

00:35:20.600 And I learned some things while doing it.

00:35:22.380 I wasn't under the illusion I was going to win a seat,

00:35:24.220 but we were trying to get a message out, we're doing things.

00:35:26.800 But even then, you know, when I ran, I mean, polling was getting 20%, 30%,

00:35:30.080 especially that first time I ran.

00:35:32.020 It was getting pretty high.

00:35:33.440 Some of our candidates with the Alberta Independence Party,

00:35:35.440 this is, you know, 25 years ago.

00:35:36.740 it was the independence movement was pretty strong at that type and none of our candidates did better

00:35:42.700 than i think our top candidate was eight percent even though the polls were showing 30 40 percent

00:35:47.580 because people change their mind when it comes to actually marking their ballot where it matters

00:35:54.000 it's one thing when a pollster calls and you're ticked off about something and something really

00:35:57.900 worked you up you say yes i'm supporting independence but when they actually mark that

00:36:02.540 when they commit when it's real it's going to be lower than what the polls are so if people want

00:36:09.800 to see independence and i'm among them got to be patient because it's not there yet you want those

00:36:17.760 polls before you even some of some people say we've got to go to a referendum now all right

00:36:22.660 if you want to set the independence movement back 10 years hold a referendum now because that'll do

00:36:28.560 it because you'll get slaughtered and you won't get a chance for another one for a long time after

00:36:33.700 that you've got to make sure you've got an organized base you've got to be ready to roll

00:36:38.780 so and then you start splitting that up and that's where it gets more difficult too

00:36:43.780 well does independence mean joining the states does independence mean being fully independent

00:36:47.740 a lot of those questions come up um i'm here uh commenting saying i don't see the downside for

00:36:55.020 Alberta are becoming a state. You'll get the Constitution. You can't put a price on that.

00:36:58.840 You know, there's good and bad with the American system. And as I said before, I love the United

00:37:05.720 States. I want to be closer to the United States. I'd like to see it being nearly borderless. I

00:37:09.740 want to see real free trade. But keep that in mind then. Look at the person we're dealing with down

00:37:14.740 there. He's anything but bad. He wants to put up more trade barriers. We're trading one set of

00:37:20.860 problems for another set of problems. Alberta would be a smaller fish in a bigger pond. I mean, 1.00

00:37:26.500 we've got a lot of resources, certainly. But there's a lot of other challenges. The American

00:37:31.260 Electoral College is a gong show. Don't assume that all of those things would necessarily be

00:37:37.620 a benefit in joining the states. But again, what I'm saying with this discussion is you're putting

00:37:41.900 the cart way beyond, you know, the horse here when it comes to that discussion at this point.

00:37:46.940 because we're nowhere near that tipping point.

00:37:50.460 But what you can do is start splitting up your own support among different factions.

00:37:56.260 There's nothing conservatives, particularly independence-minded ones,

00:37:59.600 like doing more than fighting with themselves, than fighting with each other.

00:38:06.480 And the worst of the bunch are independence-minded ones, right?

00:38:09.720 These are people who don't want to get along with each other.

00:38:13.300 Louise LeBourne saying,

00:38:14.560 we used to like shopping in the United States with a driver's license.

00:38:16.580 now we're here yeah like i i remember when you didn't need a passport even to go into the usa

00:38:21.680 and now president trump's talking about making people register almost like a visa system if

00:38:27.080 you're going to spend more than 30 days down there we've got millions of canadians who spend

00:38:30.620 time in the winter time down in the states the snowbird we this is not a good time to be getting

00:38:34.960 closer to them i'm afraid i want to be closer but this is not a welcoming atmosphere a lot of people

00:38:40.780 also make the leap

00:38:44.400 that the Americans want Canada or Alberta

00:38:48.220 to be the 51st state. That's a giant assumption.

00:38:52.400 And we're not seeing a lot of evidence of that. Their consent is going to have to come in on this

00:38:56.920 as well. If we were going to try and come closer to the USA,

00:39:00.900 we need to be doing it incrementally. We need to be bringing down trade barriers.

00:39:04.540 We need to be going back to, like Louise said, to the days where you didn't even need a passport to cross

00:39:08.620 that border. Instead, we're going the opposite direction. Bruce Leslie saying an Alberta

00:39:14.860 independence act should be introduced so we can have it in the future. So along those lines,

00:39:20.940 Alberta or any other province, is we need real legislation for referenda and for recall. This

00:39:29.660 is one of the baits and switches that happened. This is when I got really upset with Premier

00:39:33.240 Kenny years ago when Jason Kenny was the premier, is he promised legislation where citizens can

00:39:39.200 initiate binding referendums and for recall. So they made that promise to do it and then they

00:39:44.820 dragged their feet in actually bringing in the legislation. It took them years to bring it in

00:39:48.120 and when they brought it in, they made it useless. They set ridiculous bars for these 0.94

00:39:55.720 referendums to be held, for them to even get rolling. If you want a referendum on independence,

00:40:01.900 you need to round up hundreds of thousands of signatures over the course of, I believe it's

00:40:07.380 like 90 days. And if people think that's easy or doable, they've never actually petitioned before.

00:40:14.000 Online petitions, sure, I could put a petition out on X and I could probably get a few thousand

00:40:18.720 signatures for damn near anything within a few hours. But those aren't worth anything. They're

00:40:24.420 digital signatures on an online poll. A real petition, the ones for things like referenda

00:40:31.580 and recall. You have to have it on paper. You have to have it witnessed. You have to go to the door

00:40:37.040 and get them to sign and they got to provide their address and a phone number. Even a very,

00:40:44.520 very skilled petitioner, good one at the door and everything else, you were lucky if they could get

00:40:49.320 100 signatures a day. That's a lot of work. Now, there's only so many people who would have the

00:40:55.300 time to put in eight hours a day, be that talented and be able to get 100 signatures a day on that

00:41:00.800 sort of form. Kenzie Kraken pointing out, look what happened in Calgary when they tried to recall

00:41:05.040 Gondek. Yeah, it was a huge movement. Huge. And I believe, you know, hundreds, if not thousands of

00:41:12.100 people have volunteered and went out and got signatures and tried. Two things happened. For

00:41:16.360 one, they were way, way, way short of the threshold. Even with all of that movement to recall her,

00:41:21.280 they couldn't get it. Plus, the electoral officer looked at it, and I guess they didn't dot an I

00:41:25.600 properly on their initial forms or something with the declaration. They said, well, none of these

00:41:29.240 would have been valid even if you had enough signatures you need to set a bar it's fair

00:41:35.080 enough you don't want somebody trying to recall a politician the day after they got elected

00:41:39.560 you don't want a constant turmoil and turnover and everything else going on with that but at

00:41:44.920 the same time you know you want to make it achievable it's got to be realistic so we need

00:41:52.900 legislation whether or not it's an act as the commenter said i i don't know but uh you need

00:41:59.800 something that that for i don't think specifically for independence but uh you you need it for the

00:42:07.020 referendum initiative and uh and recall so where do we go uh kenzie saying that yes you know

00:42:12.980 cory green saying this election's an iq test and that's i you know the i i'm tempted to keep saying

00:42:20.880 the same things. If you watch me on X, I say similar stuff all the time and everything.

00:42:24.380 Because what's going on is, I am wondering, what is the matter with Canadians, really? What is,

00:42:30.540 how are you getting the wool pulled over your eyes so heavily right now? You've had 10 years

00:42:36.960 of terrible government. Terrible. I mean, I don't fault people for putting in the Trudeau

00:42:43.860 government in 2016. Fair enough. You wanted change, you brought it in. Maybe even the next

00:42:49.860 term after that but look at the record are people actually going to look at the policies are they

00:42:55.300 going to look at the record are they going to look at the fact that debt has doubled are they going

00:42:59.320 to look at our debt gdp per capita ratio and how it's not basically hasn't even grown over the last

00:43:08.320 10 years whereas the rest of the world has carried on our productivity is a nation our unity you know

00:43:14.820 Are we unified? No. We're here talking about independence more than we've ever seen in decades, thanks to 10 years of this government.

00:43:23.440 The woke crap, the subsidies, the corporate welfare. 0.97

00:43:27.080 I mean, find a list of successes to point at from the Trudeau government. 0.99

00:43:33.580 Where are they? Where are they?

00:43:36.200 Yet, here we are. All it took was changing the person at the head.

00:43:40.240 and suddenly it looks like Canadians are ready to give him a majority.

00:43:46.240 I mean, I can understand.

00:43:47.980 I like Polioff.

00:43:49.160 Fair enough.

00:43:50.100 I'm biased.

00:43:51.040 That's my job.

00:43:51.880 That's what I do, you know, but I understand a lot of people don't.

00:43:55.680 He doesn't rub them the right way.

00:43:57.940 They don't feel comfortable with him.

00:43:58.980 Fair enough.

00:44:00.060 You know, not everybody is for everybody.

00:44:02.260 But look at the bigger picture.

00:44:03.600 And again, he would just be the leader of a party, of course,

00:44:05.960 of dozens and dozens, if not hundreds, of members of a party

00:44:10.240 parliament. And look at the policies he's talking about.

00:44:14.860 I mean, give him a term. Four years. I mean, is there really anything to lose

00:44:18.380 at that point? Especially when Polyev and Kearney are

00:44:22.340 both offering the same bloody policies over and over again. They're

00:44:26.020 indistinguishable. And

00:44:28.600 no, no, we want to go back to liberal. I mean,

00:44:33.800 Wildrow's saying it's the handouts they're addicted to. There's some of that.

00:44:37.320 You know, equalization, things like that.

00:44:39.900 Eastern Canada, the Maritimes, again, they're heavily liberal supporting

00:44:43.580 because any party that dares to talk about cutting any of those things,

00:44:47.480 well, unfortunately, it turns into electoral suicide, political suicide,

00:44:51.240 and it's really, really problematic.

00:44:54.480 All right, I've been rambling for quite a while,

00:44:56.140 but I see Chris Oldcorn in the lobby there.

00:44:58.440 We will pop him in for a chat and see what's happening out there

00:45:01.580 in the real center of Canada, Saskatchewan and Manitoba.

00:45:05.920 Hey, Chris, how's it going?

00:45:07.320 it's good how are you how are you oh good good uh yeah we haven't had you on quite a while it's

00:45:14.200 good to see you yeah yeah so i mean i guess just to begin with you know just to remind everybody

00:45:20.720 you're our saskatchewan bureau chief you kind of cover a lot of minotoba issues and things going

00:45:25.680 on out there as well what are we looking at i mean saskatchewan's had that point of pride of

00:45:30.580 being a liberal free zone for quite some time now but polls are getting really weird uh are they

00:45:36.140 resurging in Saskatchewan at all? No, not at all. What we're seeing is basically a blue wall,

00:45:44.680 which is what it's been for quite some time, even in the liberal governments. You're still

00:45:53.600 seeing the blue wall. There's only one riding the Liberals ever win, and it's way up north.

00:45:59.140 And then there's only 14 ridings in the province and basically the Liberals win one and the other 13 go Conservatives.

00:46:09.140 So what are the top issues people are looking at? What is it in Saskatchewan that are keeping everybody in that blue wave right now?

00:46:17.140 uh obviously recently recently uh because because quite often often policies from these from

00:46:27.920 that uh do with with so we're getting some sound issues from you there chris um let me see if we

00:46:36.320 can tune that a little on our end or something um it's an echo i i don't i'm not sure what we can

00:46:43.760 do about that. It's been a frustration today. You're not the first person hit

00:46:47.720 with it. How about I

00:46:51.380 log out and come back in and see what happened. Sure. We'll give that a try.

00:46:56.020 It wasn't, yeah, it's worth a crack. All right. I'll try it again.

00:47:00.040 Great. Thanks. So yes, Saskatchewan has

00:47:03.720 been, I guess, this bastion of conservative

00:47:07.680 support. It means more so than Alberta. Even though Saskatchewan brought in

00:47:11.800 NDP government for a while. They were a pragmatic NDP government. You've got to give them that.

00:47:16.580 I mean, Romano balanced the budget. We're going back a ways.

00:47:21.000 They get that Prairie Socialists out there with Saskatchewan and then some support for the NDP

00:47:26.020 sometimes. But all the same, the last few years, they have been admirably, solidly conservative.

00:47:35.340 And we'll see if that's going to change that time around. So I see Chris is kind of back in.

00:47:38.960 Let's see if that's a little better and we get a little more clarity in the things.

00:47:45.400 How are you doing there, Chris?

00:47:46.560 I'm well, Ken.

00:47:47.500 Is the audio fixed now?

00:47:49.320 The commenters will let us know very quickly if it isn't.

00:47:52.180 Okay, appreciate that.

00:47:54.040 So, I mean, maybe to start with agriculture, of course.

00:47:56.620 I mean, it's a prime, prime industry in Saskatchewan right now.

00:48:01.740 And, you know, the Liberals haven't traditionally been very friendly with the agricultural sector.

00:48:07.340 Or does it imagine that's a factor right now?

00:48:10.740 Yeah, especially particularly with the Chinese tariffs, because canola is one of the biggest crops here in Saskatchewan.

00:48:18.040 And there's presently 100 percent tariff on our canola, which was China retaliating for our putting 100 percent tariff on Chinese electric vehicles, which you can't even find one on the roads of Saskatchewan.

00:48:30.760 So I'm not exactly sure where all these Chinese EVs we had to stop coming into the country are from.

00:48:35.320 and and where they're driving around but um it's the canola producers in particular in the province

00:48:42.800 are quite concerned and then also there's a lot of pork producers in manitoba they're also concerned

00:48:47.540 as well because they also got slapped with the same 100 percent terror uh on pork products which

00:48:52.940 we export a lot to um china as well so so something has been kind of i you know i gotta admit i was a

00:48:58.640 bit frustrated with too though i mean these trade wars there's just no winners when we do these

00:49:01.940 things. I think too, I mean, there's things we can point at, but I think Trump's approach with

00:49:08.040 Canada was pretty out of the blue and unjustified. I mean, he's got issues to be upset with, fair

00:49:12.700 enough, but these crazy 25% tariffs are a little much. But in the case of the EVs, Canada brought

00:49:19.100 that on themselves. We put that tariff on Chinese goods and invited the retaliation, but I'm not 0.58

00:49:25.940 hearing a single politician saying they're going to get rid of that either. No, I mean, Premier

00:49:30.420 Scott Moe was calling on Carney even prior to the election that he needed to call President

00:49:37.780 Jing and talk about this because one, there was nothing from the Trudeau government about trying

00:49:46.460 to stop these Chinese tariffs on the canola and pork. And it also affects Atlantic Canada too,

00:49:51.380 because they put it on seafood as well, for example. So it's not just an issue in Western

00:49:56.280 Canada, where Trudeau just ignored. Western Canada didn't really care about helping them

00:50:01.380 economically. He was only concerned in the central part of the country and Atlantic Canada.

00:50:07.860 But Moe repeatedly even called on Carney before he called the election on Sunday to even be like,

00:50:13.980 like, reach out, like, like, this needs to stop. We're coming up on planting season.

00:50:19.520 And our farmers need to know what they can plant and what they're going to make money off of,

00:50:23.900 Because you can't make money off of when you have these massive tariffs because it makes your product too expensive and then they go buy someone else's product.

00:50:33.940 Well, something though, you know, to be fair with things, and that's where I find myself frustrated, though, I'm not hearing Scott Moe calling out Polyev and saying, Mr. Polyev, are you going to commit to getting rid of these tariffs?

00:50:44.700 Like nobody's holding his feet to the fire either.

00:50:46.440 And he's sort of kind of dodging on this one.

00:50:48.100 yeah well i mean technically right now pierre has no power to actually affect anything over the next

00:50:55.660 you know four weeks or so um but but now would be the time you make the time to to to get up uh and

00:51:02.780 i mean he he is going to be in manitoba tomorrow i believe uh doing a press conference so maybe he

00:51:08.260 will touch on farming issues due to the fact that uh the tariffs are basically hitting manitoba

00:51:14.180 and Saskatchewan, really hard, the ones from China. Not to mention, the U.S. buys most of 0.68

00:51:20.780 our potash. So those tariffs are going to affect us here immensely. Plus, we ship a lot of oil,

00:51:28.400 obviously not as much as Alberta ships. But we do still have quite a big oil business in this

00:51:35.000 province. Not to mention, the U.S. needs our uranium to run their nuclear reactors. 0.97

00:51:39.960 and we're just about to open up another uranium mine here and basically american companies have

00:51:48.040 already been the buyers of uranium that hasn't even come out of the ground yet uh and that's

00:51:54.040 going to get slapped with a tariff as well and it's going to make everything more expensive for

00:51:58.580 americans because all of a sudden their energy is going to cost more uh the farmers inputs are

00:52:05.400 going to be more because of the tariffs on potash and oil will go up because most of the oil in

00:52:10.900 Canada, we don't have refineries here anymore, really. So all of our stuff gets shipped down

00:52:15.220 to the States to be refined and then used in the U.S. So all of those things are going to make

00:52:20.180 life more expensive for the average American because potash goes into farming, which goes

00:52:27.160 into food. You've got oil and gas also getting nailed with tariffs. And then you've got uranium

00:52:32.120 getting nailed with tariffs. So their energy costs are going to go up. Well, it's getting scary on

00:52:36.580 every front. Now, one of the things he's been questioned on it and he dodged on it, he wouldn't

00:52:40.840 answer, but Kearney said he hasn't ruled out putting export tariffs on Western resources,

00:52:48.980 whether it's Albertan oil, gas, or the potash coming out of Saskatchewan. That's got to be

00:52:56.660 getting people pretty concerned as well. I mean, again, potash is a brilliant industry and

00:53:00.760 Saskatchewan is one of the biggest providers of that in the world.

00:53:03.380 But if your prime customer, you suddenly hit them with a 25% price increase, we're going

00:53:08.860 to see some trouble real fast.

00:53:10.960 Especially when you look at the deal that Trump made with Russia this week, where he

00:53:15.700 has basically said that as long as Russia goes by the Ukrainian war peace deal, where

00:53:23.420 Ukraine wasn't even involved in the negotiations, that he will restore the agricultural and

00:53:30.240 fertilizer markets for Russia. So in one way, we're getting hit with tariffs by the U.S.

00:53:40.460 on, for example, potash. But then the president of the United States goes and helps Russia sell

00:53:46.060 their potash. So it's almost like America's allies became their enemies and their enemies

00:53:52.580 have now become their allies because it's completely frustrating for people in Saskatchewan

00:54:01.060 when they see policies like this. This was debated in the legislature this week several times about

00:54:08.820 the issues with Donald Trump and making the deal with Russia because due to the fact that

00:54:16.020 russia had those sanctions it made saskatchewan basically the only place on the planet where you

00:54:23.220 could get potash and if belarus and russia open back up uh the potash price will go down which

00:54:31.860 obviously affects natural resource revenues for the government here in saskatchewan not to mention

00:54:37.860 that we do now have some international customers and they are trying to diversify who buys our

00:54:44.420 potash so for example brazilian farmers need our potash so that some of our potash now goes to

00:54:51.700 brazil but the other problem is that the fertilizer that canadian farmers need comes from the states

00:54:58.580 and the fertilizer american farmers needs comes from canada so if we're taxing each other's

00:55:05.540 fertilizers with tariffs duties levies whatever you want to call them

00:55:10.900 the input costs are going to go up for farmers on both sides of the border

00:55:14.420 uh and that's a that's another big issue and and matter of fact grain growers this week were

00:55:20.160 talking about this as being a major issue because 90 of the fertilizer the Canadian farmers buy is

00:55:25.820 from the U.S. Well then that's you know it highlights just unfortunately the self-defeating

00:55:30.980 nature of trade wars and how it just hurts everybody uh pretty much like any kind of war

00:55:35.960 I guess in that sense uh a commenter Clinton DeVoe brought up a good point I know Clinton's

00:55:40.060 spoken on this a lot before with Wab Kinu in talking about the deep water port in Churchill

00:55:45.480 expanding that we're talking about utility corridors or perhaps you know increasing rail

00:55:50.500 capacity or ability or shipping ability there has that been much in discussion that you've

00:55:55.700 been seeing in Saskatchewan and Manitoba? It has been very recently in particular both the SAS

00:56:02.120 party and the NDP have both called for pipelines going in every direction meaning one up to

00:56:08.280 Churchill, more going to the West, more going to the East, and then also twinning the Trans-Canada

00:56:12.800 Highway so that we can get stuff to the ports to go to countries other than the U.S.

00:56:22.140 Scott Moe keeps saying that once all this is over and everything shakes out, the U.S. will still be

00:56:26.440 our largest trading partner. But Saskatchewan's economy is the most diverse in terms of the

00:56:33.620 exports compared to any other province. 45% of our exports go to countries other than the US and only

00:56:40.880 55% go to the US. So we are in some ways protected a bit here in Saskatchewan compared to other

00:56:47.620 provinces that rely more heavily on American trade. And part of that has been the SAS party

00:56:53.860 since they came into power and they have been opening up trade offices around the world. And

00:56:58.860 They now have nine trade offices around the world that help facilitate selling Saskatchewan,

00:57:07.060 particularly potash, and a lot of our farming agricultural exports as well around the world.

00:57:13.940 Yeah, well, we get markets like India, for example, has been a fantastic developing market.

00:57:18.640 A lot of Canadian lentil products go to India.

00:57:21.720 They've been a large customer, diversifying our customer base.

00:57:25.100 I think people are finally realizing the importance of that.

00:57:28.860 And Saskatchewan's been doing so. It's been interesting watching Scott Moe, though. I mean, he's not getting into the soup as much as Alberta's premier, Daniel Smith, when she tries to talk directly to the USA and she's being villainized for it. Mr. Moe is staying in the background somewhat.

00:57:43.980 Yeah, he's had several trips to Washington this year already to try and deal with the issues around Donald Trump.

00:57:54.040 Luckily for Saskatchewan and Alberta as well and Manitoba is that a lot of senators, governors from the Midwest are now in the Trump administration.

00:58:04.520 So there's already established relationships that Scott Moe had with them.

00:58:08.440 uh and i'm sure daniel smith probably had the same relationships because we're all basically

00:58:14.840 right around the same area of the country and who we deal with on the other side of the border

00:58:18.060 and so he has uh and actually just today he's gone over to europe actually to try and sell

00:58:24.520 more of our stuff into europe as well um he's i i think all the premiers wants i mean trudeau's

00:58:31.340 been a lame sitting duck through the entire liberal leadership race and the premiers had to

00:58:36.680 take diplomacy on by themselves for that time period. And because of that, you know, the

00:58:44.140 premiers had to make trips to Washington to talk with people in commerce and the White House,

00:58:49.820 et cetera. And that has, from what we're seeing coming out of the White House, not had much

00:58:58.680 effect. Maybe once we get through this election and we have a, you know, someone has like a

00:59:06.140 four-year mandate, which is what we expect in Canada, in terms of the length that we have

00:59:12.100 between our federal elections, that we will have a prime minister that will be able to deal directly

00:59:18.640 with Trump for the rest of Trump's term. And the other thing with Trump is someone has to replace

00:59:23.840 him because this is his second term. So we have to deal with Trump for four years. And then after

00:59:30.720 that who knows who we're going to deal with um but we're barely two months in and in some ways

00:59:38.400 you can't fault trump for trying to protect american industries however i don't think he

00:59:43.560 realizes how much over the last 50 60 years the economies between canada and u.s have been

00:59:51.560 integrated for example like in the auto industry for example like it's so integrated integrated

00:59:58.520 that parts like cars are going over the border you know two three hundred times before they're

01:00:03.040 completely assembled yeah you can't separate you can't separate that it's almost like there is

01:00:09.020 absolutely no border between Ontario and Michigan and Ohio so I guess we'll just kind of turn a

01:00:16.040 little and look into to Winnipeg then in that area you're kind of closest and I know you watch

01:00:20.300 things out there there's a few ridings definitely in play out there how do you see that developing

01:00:25.800 as this federal election goes.

01:00:27.140 I mean, Saskatchewan's pretty solid

01:00:28.820 where they're sitting,

01:00:29.680 but Winnipeg, they're kind of a swing province.

01:00:33.600 Manitoba should say.

01:00:34.680 Well, Manitoba as a whole

01:00:37.100 is leaning liberal right now.

01:00:42.740 It'll be interesting to see

01:00:43.840 once we get another couple weeks

01:00:46.120 into the election,

01:00:46.920 what the polls are doing.

01:00:48.480 I still think the polls

01:00:49.800 are a little high for the liberals.

01:00:51.180 I think Carney is still on his honeymoon

01:00:53.620 of becoming the liberal leader, just like we see a bump after, you know, leadership conventions,

01:01:00.260 party conventions, all of those sorts of things. There's artificial bumps that go up and then they

01:01:05.300 go back down. It'll just depend on what happens between now and the election. But definitely,

01:01:11.360 Manitoba has a lot more ridings that you would call in play or could swing one way or the other,

01:01:17.980 particularly in urban settings in Manitoba, sorry, in Winnipeg, in particular Manitoba.

01:01:23.620 yeah so i mean kind of getting outside of the election issue but it everything impacts it and

01:01:28.500 so on i've seen stories coming out from out your way the the overdoses the addiction epidemic the

01:01:32.980 fentanyl everybody's dealing with that everywhere around the entire bloody world i mean it's just

01:01:36.900 a horrific horrific drug with what it's doing uh but you're it's starting to spike again out

01:01:42.420 there it appears to be yes we have a bad batch of fentanyl that's been circulating up in saskatoon

01:01:48.580 area and a little bit into Prince Albert now, it is deadly. Normally when you take fentanyl,

01:01:59.860 particularly the straight version, it hits you pretty quick. You know, you're feeling the effects

01:02:05.080 15, 20, 30 seconds, one minute. But the batch that's going around now, and it's a burgundy red

01:02:12.000 color, it takes like 15 minutes to kick in. So people take some and they don't think they took

01:02:17.580 enough because nothing's happening. And then they take more and more and more. And by the time you

01:02:21.620 get to the 15 minute mark and it kicks in, you're well on your way to an overdose. And to make it

01:02:27.760 even worse, it's taking four or five shots, plus oxygen to revive people. This is a very, very bad

01:02:39.760 because they're taking so much. It's a very, very bad situation in Saskatoon. They had to open an

01:02:45.680 emergency center the provincial government did to coordinate all the emergency services

01:02:50.620 specifically around overdoses and actually the prairie harm reduction which is um uh it's a

01:02:58.080 federally funded uh safe injection site i don't like using the word safe injection site because

01:03:04.140 there's no safe way to inject drugs into your body um but it was federally funded and they've

01:03:10.340 actually closed down uh because their staff is exhausted and two saskatoon libraries in the

01:03:17.020 downtown area have also closed down for a month because uh they were having multiple overdoses

01:03:23.720 every single day in the library because people are going into the washrooms there and shooting up

01:03:28.780 uh and there it just became it wasn't a library anymore so they had to shut it down

01:03:36.320 Yeah, and as I said, I mean, people don't blame the staff, you know, for not wanting to deal with it. You sign up to be a librarian, not a social worker or a paramedic or a police officer. It's a difficult role that they get put into, but it really highlights just how terribly acute this problem has been becoming.

01:03:54.640 What about border control?

01:03:56.200 I mean, that was something that I think most people kind of agree that was a pretense on the trade war.

01:04:02.060 There's been issues of stuff crossing the border, but that wasn't the real base issue for things.

01:04:07.100 But it's still something worthy of addressing.

01:04:09.900 Has there been improvement or more news on the border control with southern Saskatchewan?

01:04:14.740 Yes, they've put. Basically, they took a lot of the conservation officers who would normally be looking for people fishing illegally and things like that and putting them more on to searching for people coming across the border through because the border between Saskatchewan and the U.S.

01:04:36.460 I mean, there's a couple of crossings, but I mean, you could be in a farmer's field and not know if you're in Canada or the US.

01:04:43.060 It's like it's it's not like a border you drive up to and there's a fence or anything.

01:04:47.680 So a lot of the conservation officers have been switched to dealing with the drug trade.

01:04:53.920 And they've taken some of the highway patrol as well as some of the RCMP and put them as close to the border as they can.

01:05:01.020 There are some issues between the Canadian Border Security Agency and the RCMP on how close they can go to the border in the province, which I found was kind of weird because I would think you would be able to go basically up to the border.

01:05:14.320 But there's actually like a there's like three kilometers within the border they're not allowed to go into or something, which is weird, but whatever.

01:05:24.320 And they're also using drones as well.

01:05:26.700 And there has been a significant uptake in the seizures of illegal drugs, not just coming across the border, but across the province as well.

01:05:38.720 And it's part of the SAS party's two-step process to deal with the fentanyl crisis.

01:05:44.480 They're going after the supply, which is the dealers.

01:05:48.480 But they're also, we've added 500 addictions beds across the province.

01:05:54.120 About half right now are operational.

01:05:56.700 But the other half will be operational by the end of the year so that they're dealing with both the people who are addicted to these drugs to get them off the drugs and then back into society where they can work a normal job, et cetera.

01:06:10.960 And they're also dealing with the criminals who are coming in and bringing these poisonous substances.

01:06:20.220 there's no there's no other way to describe it they're you're injecting poison into your body

01:06:24.620 um and dealing with stopping that um and i'm pretty sure that you will continue to see these

01:06:33.420 busts because they have expanded their drug units in the major cities and stuff as well

01:06:37.320 great well it's uh before i let you go then i mean you're you're quite prolific you're always

01:06:43.360 giving us great coverage from out there are there a couple of stories you've got on the go you want

01:06:46.760 kind of let people know about uh yeah we uh we had a story come out yesterday uh the privacy

01:06:51.960 commissioner here in saskatchewan um there was uh some parents that asked for some information on

01:06:57.640 gender identity and uh transgender uh clubs education etc in public schools like kindergarten

01:07:06.520 to grade eight uh and when they got the stuff back it was heavily redacted and a lot of things were

01:07:14.600 just simply withheld for lawyer-client privilege. I guess there seems to be lawyers in every

01:07:20.760 classroom in this province. And the privacy commissioner gave the strongest rebuke he has

01:07:26.040 ever given to anyone to vagina public schools. He ordered thousands of pages to be turned over 1.00

01:07:32.920 and he's even asked to speak with the person who redacted the pages that did get turned over

01:07:38.040 because there was pages where the only thing you could see was the date and the rest was just

01:07:45.640 blacked out. So even the, they turned over 10% of what they should have, the other 90,

01:07:52.100 they didn't hand over. And the 10% they did hand over was heavily redacted. It was, it was basically

01:07:58.440 useless. And the privacy commissioner said, look, these parents deserve to know what's going on in

01:08:04.480 schools. And on top of that, some of it was actually about communication between the parents

01:08:11.520 and the school. And they even redacted the parents emails to the school, which they already had,

01:08:17.440 they wanted, they wanted to know that like, was it shared internally in the school board.

01:08:22.640 So that's a story is up right now on our site. But that's, that is the major story hitting

01:08:29.600 saskatchewan today great well yeah i appreciate you cover those stories and again the the legacy

01:08:35.520 media outlets are ignoring it i mean nobody gets you know nobody wants the state getting between

01:08:39.440 them and their kid it's not a left right thing it's it's your right as a parent to know what's

01:08:43.440 happening in there and it's pretty disturbing how hard the bureaucracy will work to keep parents

01:08:48.880 from knowing what's actually going on with their own bloody children yeah one of the parents for

01:08:52.960 example for two years their kid who was in grade one and two at the time was participating in a

01:08:59.120 gender identity lunch club at school yeah and they blocked all the information about it

01:09:07.440 like like like for someone in grade one and two you know we're talking like six and seven year

01:09:11.840 olds two years in a lunch club talking about uh gender identity and what gender are you and all

01:09:17.920 this stuff uh and the parent didn't even find out until that the kid said something about this lunch

01:09:23.440 club that they were in and started talking about something they talked about uh in that lunch club

01:09:27.760 And the school even tried to hide that.

01:09:30.860 Yeah, parents trying to find out, and then they redact the information.

01:09:34.860 Well, I appreciate you keeping on there, Chris, and for watching things out there in the Saskatchewan and the Plains in general for us.

01:09:41.280 So I'll let you get back to it, and we look forward to talking to you again soon.

01:09:45.960 Thanks very much, Corey. Have a great day.

01:09:47.480 Great. Thanks, Chris.

01:09:48.820 So yeah, that is our Saskatchewan and, by default, Manitoba Bureau Chief covering things out there.

01:09:54.380 And Chris hit some great stories. Keep an eye on there.

01:09:56.900 he's been fantastic he's been with the standard for quite some time there at westernstandard.news

01:10:02.080 we've got people across the country covering these things we we've got common issues that

01:10:05.720 are happening in every province and then there's stuff that's unique to different areas

01:10:09.820 particularly when we get in the west so looking into some of the comments i i think i saw it was

01:10:14.800 from louise we'll kind of back up a bit you know we're talking about the trade agreements the

01:10:18.760 challenges and she mentioned you know we need to mexico the united states and canada all sit down

01:10:23.140 and hash out an agreement.

01:10:24.960 Yes, that makes perfect sense.

01:10:26.240 But the problem is we had one.

01:10:28.120 In fact, prior to that, we had NAFTA.

01:10:30.440 And Trump, in his first term, said NAFTA is horrible.

01:10:33.480 We've got to get rid of NAFTA.

01:10:34.600 We've got to rip up NAFTA.

01:10:35.620 It's an awful deal.

01:10:36.600 So we did.

01:10:37.640 We ripped up NAFTA and sat down Mexico and Canada, the United States,

01:10:41.120 and they drafted a whole new trade agreement.

01:10:44.500 And literally Trump was up there going on about that when it was signed,

01:10:49.280 saying this is the best trade agreement ever written.

01:10:51.760 And this is the, oh, we're going to be the strongest economy in the world.

01:10:56.420 We've got the Canada-U.S.-Mexico agreement.

01:10:58.880 I've done this.

01:11:00.700 Well, now Trump gets in again, and he ripped that agreement up. 0.99

01:11:03.560 And he said, no, this agreement's crap. 0.99

01:11:04.920 Who signed this? 1.00

01:11:06.140 You did, you crazy cheeto. 0.99

01:11:08.940 But he changed his mind. 0.99

01:11:10.220 That's the problem with dealing with him.

01:11:12.000 You don't know where he's going to come from.

01:11:13.520 The man is not consistent, to see the least.

01:11:18.560 So how does any leader deal with him?

01:11:20.360 When the goalposts bounce around faster than you can keep up with them.

01:11:24.860 Part of our issue, though, a big problem, and Chris mentioned that in a sense,

01:11:29.300 was that we haven't had, though, somebody who's been a prime minister with a mandate for a long, long time.

01:11:34.940 I mean, Parliament was pretty much shut down since last fall.

01:11:37.420 Trudeau was completely ineffective, disrespected, and just of no use.

01:11:41.100 Trudeau finally stepped aside.

01:11:42.480 We didn't even have a Liberal leader for weeks.

01:11:44.440 Now, okay, we get Carney, who's been elected by the Liberals but not Canadians yet.

01:11:48.700 But nobody's in a position of authority to bind Canada to a long-term agreement of any kind yet.

01:11:54.260 And that won't happen until after this election.

01:11:56.020 Whoever might end up being the Prime Minister.

01:11:58.340 And it's getting kind of scary, to say the least, to see what might be happening at the end of this.

01:12:05.760 So some of the torqued dialogue.

01:12:08.720 I mean, I don't know how to speak to or respond to a lot of things we see.

01:12:12.000 So in Alberta, I was listening, you know, a lot to the news today.

01:12:15.340 I torture myself with legacy media.

01:12:16.780 But Daniel Smith, Premier Smith, went down and spoke at a PragerU event in Florida, and she was on a panel with Ben Shapiro.

01:12:27.360 This is the beauty of legacy media.

01:12:30.400 They get up and they interview a political scientist, I won't even name which one, it doesn't matter anymore.

01:12:35.580 And she goes on about, Smith was sitting down and associating with known racists.

01:12:41.840 Really? You know, it just starts getting exhausted.

01:12:46.780 Can you guys get a new friggin' playbook?

01:12:49.820 Ben Shapiro, PragerU, whatever you might, like, they're conservative. 0.63

01:12:53.180 There's no doubt about that.

01:12:55.040 But they aren't the fringe.

01:12:56.360 They're describing it as if she was sitting with Klan members or far, far fringe or way out there.

01:13:01.040 Guys, they're pretty bloody mainstream.

01:13:04.320 You don't have to agree with where they're sitting.

01:13:06.140 But those two alone, between Shapiro and Prager, they reach more conservative Americans than 10 CNNs will.

01:13:14.820 so and again you could uh it's fair critique to say smith is overstepping her authority maybe 0.98

01:13:22.440 she shouldn't be down there meddling and things particularly when there's a federal election going 0.87

01:13:25.740 that's a fair enough discussion to be had and uh you know some people can say she's doing more

01:13:31.540 damage than good maybe maybe not but to go straight into that she's associating with racists 1.00

01:13:37.840 oh god i'm sick to death of it i'm sick of it unless you see real evidence of that happening 0.81

01:13:44.020 real evidence let's get off that narrative isn't that what we all kind of got sick of isn't that 0.94

01:13:49.420 part of why trudeau's support went down to 17 people were tired of the woke garbage going on 0.90

01:13:56.140 where people were tired of everything being labeled as racism no matter what happens 0.51

01:14:00.880 but we're still there we're still there and is it working i don't know

01:14:07.940 we're getting back to you know i meant to ask chris about that but that's fine

01:14:13.280 And, you know, there's a degree of independence type sentiment going on in Saskatchewan and Alberta, too.

01:14:17.440 And as I did mention with him, Carney won't rule out using Alberta's oil and gas, Saskatchewan's potash, things like that, as tools to weaponize in fighting the trade war.

01:14:33.400 Well, wait a minute.

01:14:34.560 Those aren't your tools to be had.

01:14:36.480 Those are provincial jurisdiction.

01:14:40.120 But, you know, Canadians watch that.

01:14:43.060 You know, not enough people realize even where those levels are.

01:14:46.880 If anybody's going to go into that, it needs to be provincial doing it. 1.00

01:14:52.260 But trade wars, they're just so destructive, foolish, and dumb. 0.99

01:14:57.780 People got to understand, I mean, I think it was Kenzie who pointed out, 0.99

01:15:00.440 Trump did campaign on tariffs.

01:15:02.260 He's never made a secret of that.

01:15:05.020 If anything, the Republicans have always been worse for protectionism than the Democrats when it comes to that. 1.00

01:15:09.360 but just because he campaigned on it doesn't mean it's still not stupid 0.99

01:15:13.620 and uh it seems to be showing you know trump is there rattling the the cage and shaking the trees 0.99

01:15:22.260 and going on with these tariffs but he keeps bringing it to the edge and then backing off

01:15:25.860 he brought he took four trillion dollars out of the north american markets just because the

01:15:30.760 instability of threatening these things has caused and uh it what's it done how much business has

01:15:40.380 moved into the united states how much has he really brought home as chris pointed out because

01:15:45.100 that's what trump keeps going on about we're gonna bring all the auto manufacturers to the usa

01:15:49.460 it doesn't happen overnight there zippy it's not that easy they're very integrated the parts for

01:15:55.700 some vehicles come from over here and the assembly is over there because we've had good cooperative

01:16:01.520 integrated economies that served both countries well or all three even because there's stuff down

01:16:06.460 in mexico going on all these tariffs are going to do is shoot up the price of automobiles for

01:16:14.020 everybody in the united states it's it's it's gonna be uh it's gonna be nuts kenzie saying

01:16:21.560 he's made a trillion in investments well that's fine but he blew out four trillion

01:16:25.300 And what are investments from the government?

01:16:27.140 Well, that's money taken from the citizens.

01:16:29.960 And I've heard some people talking about, oh, well, Trump's grand plan is he's going to get rid of income tax

01:16:35.320 because he's going to make all the money out of tariffs.

01:16:39.580 Oh.

01:16:41.180 Okay.

01:16:42.000 Don't listen to Trump.

01:16:44.220 Listen to economists.

01:16:46.040 Please.

01:16:47.360 Please.

01:16:48.400 Listen to Friedman, Milton Friedman, because he dealt with that so much when there was protectionism,

01:16:53.280 when the Japanese market was getting so strong in the past.

01:16:56.800 We're talking the 80s and 90s, but the issues were the same.

01:16:59.820 The Japanese, just a second, 1.00

01:17:02.400 Kenzie Kraken saying $4 trillion out of the U.S.?

01:17:04.100 What? Yes, that's how much market capital

01:17:06.200 got blown out of the markets when they crashed

01:17:09.600 after Trump started this whole tariff talk.

01:17:14.480 The markets haven't come close to recovering from that yet

01:17:17.540 because when you throw instability into the market,

01:17:19.660 people pull their investments, gold shot through the roof,

01:17:22.460 but market value on a whole pile of things went into toilet that's money that evaporated value

01:17:28.600 that evaporated just over him shaking things up and how are you going to tariff yourself rich

01:17:34.860 that's not that's what annoys me with some of the selective uh listening that some people do

01:17:43.060 are you conservatives or not well if you are then you should oppose the concept of taxing yourself

01:17:48.060 rich. And Trump is claiming he can tax everybody to prosperity. He's claiming through tariffs

01:17:53.900 somehow he can get rid of income tax. Guys, look at the numbers. It's not even close.

01:17:58.960 Plus, if the tariffs are to be effective, if, theoretically, and he drives everything internal,

01:18:06.480 no longer will there be much of imported goods coming into the United States any longer. Okay,

01:18:10.980 fine. Well, then where's the money going to come from for the rest of your programs? Because

01:18:14.940 people aren't buying it anymore you're not collecting on the tariffs look guys it's dumb

01:18:19.020 economics people keep saying he's got some grand plan he's playing 40 chess well no i i think one

01:18:25.840 of the best concepts i saw from somebody saying no everybody else is trying to play chess trump's

01:18:29.440 playing bingo he's not even in the same realm as everybody else you don't know how to negotiate

01:18:34.120 i'm tired of people making excuses for it you've got to show an end game you've got to show a goal

01:18:38.820 people saying it's brilliant negotiating well fine but negotiating for what because he still

01:18:43.120 hasn't said what he's asking for yet meanwhile we're all running around like chickens with our

01:18:47.760 heads cut off and everybody's suffering from it canadians and americans alike and that's one of

01:18:52.920 the things that pisses me off the most out of this because i do love the united states i love the

01:18:57.500 americans and look at what they're doing to our relationship and look what they've done to the 1.00

01:19:01.620 canadian electoral landscape carney is benefiting from this he's riding high because people see him

01:19:08.620 as a picture of stability somehow.

01:19:11.580 I don't know how they're seeing it, but they are seeing it.

01:19:15.400 So Mavros, a commenter, saying,

01:19:18.020 but the U.S. economy is going to suffer too, isn't it?

01:19:19.940 How are they going to keep going with the U.S. economy suffering?

01:19:22.020 That's a good question. That's what I'm saying.

01:19:24.240 I don't know.

01:19:25.700 I don't know what the grand plan is here.

01:19:29.120 Even if, as Trump lectures on,

01:19:31.320 that we're just suddenly Mexico and Canada

01:19:32.960 are just going to shut down all their auto manufacturing plants

01:19:35.180 and just move them into the United States,

01:19:37.080 How fast do you think that can happen?

01:19:40.440 And it's not going to happen.

01:19:41.860 They might shut down, but they're going to move down there.

01:19:44.660 It's bizarre.

01:19:45.560 We're in such strange, unprecedented, and ugly times. 0.97

01:19:49.700 But I just get frustrated with conservatives who say, well, I'm conservative, so damn it, I have to support Trump. 0.83

01:19:55.660 Well, you know, you can support him in a lot of things he's doing. 0.95

01:19:58.500 I like how he shook the establishment.

01:19:59.960 I like how he's getting in there with a rotten system and trying to fix it up a bit.

01:20:04.680 One of the things conservative, in a sense, was the doge.

01:20:06.460 I mean, cutting down the amount of bureaucracy and bureaucrats.

01:20:09.360 Great.

01:20:10.700 But don't try to pretend that tariff policies and protectionism are conservative policies.

01:20:16.220 No, free trade is a conservative policy, not protectionism.

01:20:20.360 And it's bad economics, and everybody's paying a bad price for it.

01:20:24.320 Hopefully it gets rattled out.

01:20:26.400 Unfortunately, we're in the middle of a bloody election

01:20:28.540 where nobody wants to talk about something as nuanced as macroeconomics right now.

01:20:33.000 So it's Kenzie Kraken saying, you know,

01:20:37.140 Carney's running his campaign as anti-Trump to a degree.

01:20:39.600 Yeah, he is.

01:20:40.100 And it's effective.

01:20:41.540 Because again, you know, left and right, the middle,

01:20:45.180 the people who tend to swing in votes, they're ticked off.

01:20:47.660 For the most part, they are not happy with this.

01:20:50.460 They're not happy with it.

01:20:51.900 And it's bloody well going to give us,

01:20:53.900 when we thought we might have a chance of getting away from liberal governments

01:20:56.260 a little while, back into liberal majority territory.

01:21:00.420 So how can you celebrate what President Trump's been doing?

01:21:06.980 And yeah, back to the fentanyl.

01:21:09.100 You know, I'll kind of hit on that.

01:21:11.280 It's interesting.

01:21:13.120 Let's talk about something else.

01:21:14.900 Yeah, the fentanyl.

01:21:15.880 We'll get on that.

01:21:17.140 Because this whole thing was tipped off by saying that apparently it was pouring from Canada into the United States.

01:21:23.300 Even American Senate committees now, they've been speaking and saying that no, no.

01:21:27.120 it comes in from Canada a bit but it's a tiny tiny almost insignificant amount it's not become

01:21:32.880 an issue it's good to see at least as uh Chris had mentioned old corn who we had on before

01:21:38.240 Saskatchewan's taking a treatment-based approach you've got to hit both the supply and the demand

01:21:44.080 and particularly you know that's part of it I mean the old just say no theories from from back

01:21:49.820 in the 80s yeah that didn't work with drugs in general because people addicts don't just just

01:21:54.220 say no. Interdictional loan going after the dealers, it's important, but it's not enough.

01:22:01.180 You have to hit the demand because they're always going to find a way. Kenzie Cracking saying it's

01:22:05.920 insignificant because they aren't catching it. Well, no, they're not catching all of it. No,

01:22:11.480 that's part of it. It's flowing by on every side. But I mean, the amount coming from Canada versus

01:22:15.900 the amount coming from Mexico is insignificant. Either way, as long as we got untreated addicts,

01:22:22.040 They're going to find a way.

01:22:23.100 They will bring it in through blimps if they have to. 0.71

01:22:25.420 If there's demand for a product, people will get it to them.

01:22:28.340 We want to make it harder for them to get it to them.

01:22:30.140 I'm not talking about just opening the borders and letting it go.

01:22:33.820 But we've really got to work on treatment and mental health supports for people.

01:22:37.040 Because, again, as long as the demand is there, the drugs are going to be a problem on both sides of the border.

01:22:41.880 In every country in the world.

01:22:43.780 That's part of the annoying aspect of this, too.

01:22:47.440 No matter what's going on with the borders, you've got to remember,

01:22:50.040 It's the United States' responsibility under what comes into them,

01:22:52.540 not the country's what's going out.

01:22:54.200 Everything's gone upside down.

01:22:56.460 All right, let's go on to a nice, easy social issue,

01:22:59.420 and that's First Nations issues, residential schools,

01:23:02.220 something non-controversial and not complicated,

01:23:05.000 and, you know, bring down the tone of things a little bit.

01:23:08.340 So we're going to talk to Frances Widows,

01:23:09.800 and she's been on the show before, but it's been a while,

01:23:13.240 and she's been fantastic and outspoken on this and isn't giving up.

01:23:17.580 So thank you for joining us today, Francis.

01:23:21.320 Thanks for having me on.

01:23:23.280 I really appreciate it.

01:23:24.800 So, you know, everything's kind of getting overwhelmed issues-wise,

01:23:29.100 and it's just been a world of madness lately.

01:23:31.380 But we can't forget the whole residential school fiasco beginning with Kamloops. 0.85

01:23:38.120 It hasn't gone away.

01:23:39.600 It's still a problem.

01:23:41.380 And some people have paid some career prices for this, including yourself,

01:23:44.460 for even speaking up on this.

01:23:45.680 I guess to start with, you're going to be going to Powell River and speaking on this?

01:23:49.940 That's correct. On Sunday, March 30th, I'll be traveling to Powell River with my videographer, Simon Hargott, who's a filmmaker in Kamloops, actually.

01:24:01.420 We're planning on doing a documentary on the Kamloops case and Pell River is connected to the Kamloops case because the name change process, which I've been following for a number of years, was actually fomented by the chief, John Hackett, who said because the 215 children have been found at Kamloops, people should not resist his efforts to change the name of Pell River.

01:24:30.320 So that was based upon false assumptions, and so Powell River has been impacted by this as well.

01:24:37.960 Yeah, it's just bizarre, and it's turned into a club that can be used against anybody, it seems, on Indigenous issues.

01:24:44.600 Anything comes up, and you're immediately, well, even if it's unrelated, we'll pull it in.

01:24:48.860 Well, you're a residential school denier.

01:24:50.520 We can't get reconciliation unless we accept the responsibility for this horrific mass murder.

01:24:56.880 But it didn't happen.

01:24:58.020 Well, we have no evidence of remains at Kamloops, and it's highly improbable that there are no remains there because not one parent has said that their child never came home from the Kamloops Indian Residential School.

01:25:16.140 So if that is the case, who are the not 215, because Sarah Bollier, after hearing about the archaeology department at Simon Fraser doing excavations in a particular area that she'd surveyed, and they didn't discover any remains, actually downgraded the 215 number to 200.

01:25:39.040 it. Possible remains or anomalies or targets of interest, but we need excavations. We need

01:25:49.280 Bollier's report to be released and we need excavations. At Kamloops, $9.2 million was

01:25:57.680 requested for ancestral excavations. Not one shovel has gone into the ground at Kamloops.

01:26:06.300 So what was that, you know, millions of dollars spent on in the Kamloops case?

01:26:10.820 Well, and the hypocrisy has been kind of exposed when we look at Winnipeg, where they were willing to spend tens of millions, possibly even to the hundreds of millions to find four bodies of murdered indigenous women, which is tragic and horrible.

01:26:23.700 Absolutely.

01:26:24.940 And, uh, they did, they started digging, they actually found two of them, but this double standard where, okay.

01:26:31.940 expenses no limitation when it comes to recovering the remains of indigenous people when it comes to

01:26:38.740 a winnipeg landfill yet where allegedly we have 200 children's bodies buried in camelops we can't dig 0.78

01:26:46.100 six feet yes and it's not a complicated excavation um they have dug in the basement of the pine creek

01:26:57.620 in the pine creek case in the church basement uh there were supposed to be 14 anomalies that were

01:27:02.820 found there and the the elders and the knowledge keepers had said that there were rumors that

01:27:07.620 children were buried in the church basement they excavated that and they found rocks in the church

01:27:13.700 basement that is a more difficult excavation because it's in closed space than going to where

01:27:20.100 the septic tiles were laid in the 1920s, which is a lot of the hits on Sarah Bollier's GPR machine

01:27:28.620 were in that area. Don't even do the whole site. Just go in and do a plot where those septic tiles

01:27:36.300 are laid and see if that's what the GPR machine picked up. Yeah, if we could even just do a

01:27:42.820 comparative use of data on that. But again, they're very carefully making sure nobody can

01:27:48.500 have access to that report to do such a thing and it's really it just i find it enraging if people

01:27:55.100 really care if they're really concerned you want the truth you want to get down and find out what's

01:28:01.160 going on in there and you brought up something that not enough people talk about if there were

01:28:05.480 200 children missing and people say oh well we wouldn't know from 100 and some years ago no no

01:28:09.300 the allegations are that this was happening in the 50s and 60s uh theoretically the perpetrators

01:28:14.900 might still be alive there should be a record of some families saying hey my son or daughter

01:28:20.160 disappeared my cousin disappeared my brother disappeared there is zero zero not a single

01:28:25.360 person reported missing there yes and it seems to be the whole thing is based upon

01:28:30.880 kevin annette who was a defrocked united church minister who was spreading all sorts of tall

01:28:38.220 tales and was uh interviewing people and discussing things on vancouver's east side uh people who you

01:28:45.900 know had serious substance abuse problems and then it appears that many people have absorbed

01:28:53.340 these kinds of um these tales that kevin annette was spreading and now it's just become part of

01:29:01.260 the consciousness but the kamloops band everyone says it should be up to them this is what you hear

01:29:07.740 the leadership saying they received millions of dollars for excavations if they're not going to

01:29:16.000 excavate that money should be returned to the government because they did not use the money

01:29:23.460 for what that money was supposed to be spent on but we want the excavations to occur so they should

01:29:30.720 just do what it was that they were supposed to do between 2021 and 2023. That's when the funding was

01:29:38.040 requested for during that two-year period. And we are now two years past that date.

01:29:45.780 Well, and something I have trouble with is when they say it should be up to the band,

01:29:50.080 you know, if I'd said, hey, I found what I think is evidence of six bodies in the back 40 of my

01:29:55.780 acreage, and I'm pretty confident there were murdered children buried there. But you know what?

01:30:00.240 my faith says you can't dig there just take it at my word and leave it well if the police felt for

01:30:06.700 half a second there really were bodies buried in my property nothing i could do would stop them

01:30:10.960 from coming in and doing a forensic investigation they're going to say we got to get in here

01:30:14.780 and see what happened you don't just leave it up to the person who's sitting on the property to

01:30:19.560 say whether or not the law is going to be enforced there or not there's a mythical sovereign nation

01:30:25.380 status that people put upon the first nations that doesn't really exist they're just overpowered

01:30:30.200 municipalities in reality. Yes, and if someone was murdered on the site now,

01:30:38.020 it would just be, oh, leave it up to the ban to determine who's responsible for the murder that

01:30:43.740 occurred. I don't think that's how the criminal justice system in Canada operates. And it's very

01:30:50.940 important for that not to be the case because small dependent groupings, which is what Indigenous 0.78

01:30:57.420 groups are. That's a big mistake that's happened is that because the language, people have absorbed

01:31:04.300 the language, they think that Indigenous groups are a nation similar to the province of Quebec.

01:31:10.920 But the expertise, the resources, the numbers, the economic factors are not present there.

01:31:17.780 And so you can't expect, you know, groups of a thousand people to be able to conduct very, very detailed criminal investigations.

01:31:30.600 That's something for, at the least, the provincial governments to do.

01:31:35.000 But generally, with the RCMP, it's done federally.

01:31:39.580 Yeah, well, and I, as a Canadian citizen who's concerned, want to find out what happened there.

01:31:44.320 I mean, if indeed you dig a hole and you find the remains of a child, I'll be mortified like anybody else.

01:31:51.300 And then I want follow through.

01:31:52.760 I want to find the families of those remains and have the remains returned to where they should be properly interred.

01:31:58.940 And I want an investigation to find out how those remains ended up there, what happened to that child.

01:32:05.140 I can't believe anybody would say we should just leave it alone now.

01:32:08.480 And they were not saying this.

01:32:10.140 This is the other thing is that in the Fifth Estate program that aired in January 2022, both Manny Jules and Ted Gottfriedson said that they were going to be conducting, I believe they used the word exhumations, but of course that's jumping the gun on the issue because you only do exhumations if there are actually bodies there.

01:32:36.060 But they were wanting to go and actually do the excavation work that might result in exhumation.

01:32:45.840 So they both stated that on this program.

01:32:48.660 Manny Jules said that the 13 family heads had agreed.

01:32:52.900 So if that's the case, if the 13 family heads did agree, why has that not happened?

01:33:01.100 And that was in 2022.

01:33:02.320 so that was over you know three years ago that this was being said yeah and it just has no end

01:33:10.860 the other part that's getting concerning now and we're seeing pushes that they've been coming from

01:33:15.100 the NDP but there's been liberal support of it to basically try to criminalize discussion of this

01:33:20.260 issue you and I for even what we've said so far under their definitions could be charged uh this

01:33:28.420 reeks of cover-up, not caring about trying to find out what happened.

01:33:32.760 And it's authoritarianism generally. You know, that's a big problem is, you know, speech should

01:33:39.640 not be criminalized. If you're having discussions about historical events, in order to try to figure

01:33:47.820 out what's true, people are going to make errors and they're going to say things, some things that

01:33:54.220 not true but you need to have the discussion to be able to figure things out and so what's

01:34:00.140 what's occurring with this accusation of residential school denialism which was

01:34:05.260 manufactured by the university of manitoba professor sean carlton and it seems to have

01:34:12.860 just been accepted by a whole bunch of people including the mp leah gazan is that and i

01:34:19.740 And I believe the definition that Carlton uses is misrepresenting facts to impede reconciliation.

01:34:29.820 Well, Carlton has never stated what facts he is talking about.

01:34:35.500 And what we're trying to do is correct the misrepresentation of facts, which has been made by the Kamloops Band on May 27, 2021,

01:34:47.000 when they stated that the remains of 215 children had been found at the Kamloops Indian Residential School.

01:34:55.060 And in spite of changing that to anomalies in 2024, Ted Godfriesen and Didi DeRose at Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops

01:35:06.240 are on a video talking about the graves that have been found at Kamloops.

01:35:12.480 That was in 2024.

01:35:13.760 So these Indigenous neo-tribal elites continue to make the claim that there are these remains found. And what that allows to happen is it allows the Aboriginal industry to divert resources away from the much needed services that are required in Indigenous communities.

01:35:33.220 You know, this is kind of the untold story is that we have terrible deprivation in these isolated Indigenous communities.

01:35:42.920 And by spending all this money on lawyers, consultants and, you know, archaeologists who are running their GPR machines over all these places when we have no evidence of missing children anyway,

01:35:56.840 that means that that money cannot be spent on what it needs to be spent on which is improving

01:36:02.700 the conditions in indigenous communities yeah it's distracting from the real needs that are

01:36:08.240 happening because there are real very serious and real issues with the the first nations in general

01:36:12.700 uh it's just madness i i appreciate your your courage and still standing up and taking it on

01:36:18.600 and and pushing back you know that's the thing is they they tend to push people away people get

01:36:22.480 fearful and then they leave the issue. You're stubborn and I really do, you know, appreciate

01:36:28.320 that and I'm happy you're doing so. So before I let you go, where can people find what you're up

01:36:32.640 to at Powell River and otherwise? Yes, so there's a website called www.wokeacademy.info. I publish

01:36:41.620 all my speaking engagements on that site. I'll be posting some materials today and tomorrow on,

01:36:50.880 you know, the Powell River situation. I also post many things on Facebook, so, and on Twitter at

01:36:59.280 Woke Academy as well. So, on social media, I try to keep people apprised of everything that's

01:37:06.320 happening. Great. Well, thanks, and I hope everything goes great in Powell River, and then

01:37:11.540 please, you know, keep up that good fight, and hopefully one day we'll get some actual resolution

01:37:15.460 on just what the hell happened over there. Yes, and this is the fourth year anniversary coming up

01:37:19.520 on May 27th. So we should be pressing hard for answers in the Canloops case and not allow the

01:37:27.060 ban to be able to take millions of dollars and not do the excavations that they were supposed to have

01:37:32.760 done between 2021, 2023. Absolutely. It's getting to the point of fraud now, to be honest. And I

01:37:38.980 said as much in a recent column, it's time to start calling it out. So thank you very much

01:37:44.620 again. And I'm certain we'll talk again soon. Thanks very much, Corey. Great. Thank you.

01:37:49.080 Yeah, it's Frances Widowson. And again, if you just Google her name, you'll see what she's up to. And she is persistent. And we need to be on this. We do. And there's nothing worse than seeing, you know, the efforts to gag and criminalize discussion. Again, the authoritarianism of it.

01:38:04.740 And what they've taken, and, you know, we've got some cross things going on, denialism.

01:38:11.320 You know, they very much want to make it seem as if it's like the same people who denied the Holocaust in World War II.

01:38:17.680 And was pointed out, you know, from Kenzie saying, well, haven't we criminalized discussion about the Holocaust?

01:38:23.060 Some countries have.

01:38:24.260 Canada's made it difficult.

01:38:26.280 And, you know, I find the people who, you know, say it was a conspiracy, say it didn't happen and everything, vile.

01:38:33.500 I find it tasteless, but I don't think it should be criminalized.

01:38:36.760 Just expose people if they point out things like that.

01:38:38.840 You know, the difference with the Holocaust in World War II versus the Kamloops situation?

01:38:45.780 Evidence.

01:38:47.200 Evidence.

01:38:47.980 And the evidence when it comes to the Holocaust, which again, I don't think we should criminalize discussion of it,

01:38:53.040 but the evidence is pretty overwhelming.

01:38:54.640 If anything else, it was actually, if you read up on those things, it says how horrifying, how meticulous record-keeping was with the camps.

01:39:04.460 And they took a picture, they literally put a tattoo on the wrist of every Jew with a serial number. 0.78

01:39:12.400 That's how mechanized and sick this was.

01:39:15.100 Thousands and thousands of soldiers liberating from Russia, from the United States, from Canada, came to these camps and saw and documented what was happening there.

01:39:24.180 And something that was often found at those camps and holes and excavations through Ukraine as well with some of the mass murder sites was bodies.

01:39:31.920 They found bodies.

01:39:33.500 They dug them up.

01:39:34.400 They were there.

01:39:35.460 We don't have that with the residential school situation.

01:39:39.320 There's no bodies.

01:39:41.140 So to try and make a direct comparison is absurd.

01:39:47.440 And to try and criminalize discussion and debate of it is just wrong.

01:39:52.540 As Francis said, it's the authoritarianism we should get over.

01:39:55.920 Free speech means listening to stuff you don't like hearing sometimes.

01:39:59.140 It means listening to people who are wrong.

01:40:01.160 It means listening to people who are offensive.

01:40:03.600 It means listening to people that, yes, sometimes their words actually cause some damage.

01:40:07.160 That's the price we pay for that important ability to speak to these issues.

01:40:13.560 And I think it's getting more and more clear that they know there's no bodies there.

01:40:17.460 It's pretty darn clear.

01:40:18.540 if they thought the people in the indigenous industry uh indian industry i believe in france's

01:40:24.260 past book she wrote actually at length of that some years ago very well there's some people who

01:40:28.800 make a very good living out of this and they take in a lot of money advocates lawyers bureaucrats all

01:40:35.200 sorts of people are making out very well out of this these bands are getting millions of dollars

01:40:38.960 to investigate something they didn't actually do and uh it's got to be called out they don't want

01:40:45.660 be called out you they if they thought if they really thought there were 200 bodies of children

01:40:51.980 down there the people the the race hustlers the ones who are making money out of this they'd be

01:40:56.300 out there themselves with the shovels bringing them up because they want them as trophies that

01:40:59.100 they parade around so they could raise more funds for pushing back on the indignity and horror that

01:41:03.740 was done they don't think there's bodies down there as francis pointed out too there was

01:41:08.780 excavations done in another spot they found nothing but rocks up by edmonton you don't hear much about

01:41:13.820 that the cbc you google it i believe it was shoaldice hospital it was called there was

01:41:18.380 allegations that were buried uh native people in a lot out there and they were going to be

01:41:22.060 doing construction there and the contractor actually did a bunch of ground penetrating

01:41:26.620 radar studies around there and looked and they found anomalies so they did the whole excavation

01:41:31.740 they brought the elders out they brought the whole works and i was 30 some spots i think they dug

01:41:37.180 didn't find a damn thing nothing because there was nothing there and that's why they won't dig

01:41:43.100 and Kamloops. Uh, this is an issue that's not going to come up in this election. You know,

01:41:48.240 First Nations, that's a hot button. The most anything, any politician, right, left center

01:41:52.400 is going to ever do is talk about spending more money. That's kind of our fault. We got to hold

01:41:59.940 them a little more accountable. We don't, we, we seen a vote for whoever spends the most and stays

01:42:03.540 out of controversy. And you can bet that Polly have, none of them are going to touch any of that. 1.00

01:42:10.640 Mavros pointing out some of the GPR shortcomings when it comes to geophysical anomalies, and that's

01:42:16.560 the term. It's an anomaly. I worked in the Arctic for four winters up in the McKenzie Delta. My job

01:42:22.160 was actually processing ground penetrating radar data. We used it to measure ice thicknesses on

01:42:26.880 the ice roads, and it's very effective for that. It's actually excellently effective for that,

01:42:30.320 because what it'll catch is differences in density. Ice has got a certain density. Water's

01:42:34.720 got a certain density. So when you get the refraction on the water through the ice, it's

01:42:38.600 very clear and measurable. But even then, one of the things we had to do, as Mavaros is mentioning

01:42:44.080 as well, we'd have to go out now and then with augers and cut holes in the ice and with a stick,

01:42:50.060 with a measuring stick underneath with a hook on it so we could find out and calibrate and make

01:42:54.080 absolutely sure that our equipment was correctly measuring that ice thickness. You have to check.

01:43:00.420 None of that has been done on the Kamloops site or any of these other GPR sites. Nobody's dug the

01:43:06.880 hole to confirm because you still have to dig the hole to confirm all it shows you is a possibility

01:43:13.020 it shows you a model an anomaly it shows you that the dirt in one part has a different density than

01:43:18.780 the dirt in another that could be because it was a grave that was dug up and filled in yes it can

01:43:23.740 it could also be an old construction rock pile it could also be a septic tile it could also be

01:43:30.420 a root bed from an apple tree because it was an old orchard where they did this until somebody

01:43:35.460 digs a hole, we aren't going to know. And they're fighting their darndest to keep anybody from 1.00

01:43:40.900 digging a hole in that site while they're still saying we should spend tens of millions of dollars

01:43:44.500 to look for bodies in a landfill in Winnipeg. Make up your minds, guys. Do you want to recover

01:43:47.760 the bodies or not? That's enough on that, guys. You know, I'm talking mostly about federal issues

01:43:53.760 on this weekly show, but still, it's a federal issue, but it's not one that's going to come in

01:43:57.160 the election, but I still like to talk about it. I'm going to let you go. Thank you for tuning in

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Western Standard - March 29, 2025

Election Rundown Week 1

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