Western Standard - Election Special： Cory Morgan and the PPC's Chelsea Hillier

00:00:00.000 Welcome to a Western standard special.

00:00:09.180 I'm joined today, right on the almost eve of the election with Chelsea Hillier,

00:00:14.520 a member of a well-known political family that's been going around.

00:00:18.280 I've known Russ for quite some time, but I haven't, haven't met you.

00:00:21.160 So good to meet you, Chelsea.

00:00:22.560 And thanks for coming on the show.

00:00:24.000 Thank you for having me.

00:00:25.000 So you're running for the PPC in Elgin, Middlesex, London.

00:00:31.380 That's right.

00:00:32.300 And how's that campaign been going?

00:00:34.500 It's been amazing.

00:00:36.820 This campaign has been better than we could have imagined.

00:00:41.380 We knew that there was going to be a lot of support out here.

00:00:44.460 This is a very sort of freedom oriented place, but it's exceeded all of our expectations.

00:00:52.720 Yeah.

00:00:53.020 Well, it's been raising a lot of eyebrows finally, I guess you could almost say.

00:00:56.700 I mean, it's like a lot of the establishment media and establishment parties just wanted

00:01:00.700 to pretend that Bernier and the PPC weren't even there.

00:01:04.040 And despite that, they've been kind of taking the country by storm and posting some numbers

00:01:09.400 that people really never anticipated.

00:01:12.200 Yeah.

00:01:12.540 You know what?

00:01:13.080 It's an amazing thing.

00:01:14.100 So, of course, we're the only political party right now who's speaking out against lockdowns,

00:01:19.280 vaccine passports, COVID mandates in general.

00:01:22.780 And in doing so, we've also been able to drop crowds.

00:01:28.180 And we're really about bringing as many people together as possible.

00:01:32.780 I've said since the beginning of this entire COVID madness that started in March, 2020,

00:01:37.720 that the power that we have in the freedom movement is that we're not afraid to actually

00:01:43.260 get together and be with one another.

00:01:45.500 And I think that's what you see happening at all of these rallies.

00:01:48.020 It's like an outlet for all of these people who have been locked down and managed for 18 months.

00:01:55.460 Yeah, and you've been pulling support, I've found, from almost all over the political spectrum.

00:02:01.140 I mean, probably predominantly conservative, but I think the fact that it is kind of the

00:02:05.680 one and only personal freedom, anti-lockdown sort of party that you would be able to do that.

00:02:10.740 And I think that kind of deflates a little bit of the vote split fearmongering that some

00:02:14.180 anti-PPC people are putting out there.

00:02:15.900 Absolutely.

00:02:16.600 We 100% have support from across the political spectrum.

00:02:20.500 We've seen huge numbers come from traditional NDP voters who, you know, they really want

00:02:28.940 the vaccine is really what did it for most of them, I think.

00:02:32.480 But, you know, those traditional voters, like they wanted to be left alone to live the lives 0.56

00:02:37.020 that they choose to live for themselves.

00:02:39.360 And so we see these people coming to the party in droves.

00:02:43.880 And I think it's an amazing thing, incredible unification message that's happening.

00:02:48.820 So it's been great.

00:02:52.260 So with that base, though, let's kind of skip ahead to the day after the election, say there's

00:02:57.900 a couple of seats or no seats or whatever it may have been.

00:02:59.700 I mean, there's no doubt the PPC has made a mark and established itself, but there's kind

00:03:04.120 of almost a hard cap to the people who are anti-restriction and so on, like to broaden the

00:03:08.240 party out, or if you're looking for to be a lasting entity, where do you think the PPC would

00:03:12.180 go to establish itself?

00:03:14.360 Yeah.

00:03:14.580 So, of course, we have an entire platform outside of the COVID narrative.

00:03:18.340 It's just that we've sort of been bolstered by what's happened.

00:03:21.960 I think that the message that we have really at its core is that every individual matters.

00:03:28.620 And as our country moves to collectivism and we see the degradation and diminishment of

00:03:34.200 the value of the individual in this society, we are the only ones fighting back and speaking

00:03:40.060 out against that.

00:03:41.060 And I think that that message resonates with people.

00:03:44.280 This idea that Canada is actually a wonderful place filled with wonderful people who are

00:03:48.360 actually very good people, you know, and we're painted with many brushes, you know, but I

00:03:54.940 do think that that's the core of our message is that individuals matter and Canada is an

00:03:59.640 amazing place.

00:04:00.520 And that's a thread that goes through every single part of our platform.

00:04:04.700 It's really, you know, it puts Canada first at all times.

00:04:08.740 Yeah.

00:04:09.220 Well, and we're getting so polarized with so many things.

00:04:11.920 Emotions are getting so high.

00:04:14.580 I'm just happy to see somebody speaking out for choice.

00:04:17.760 Like something, it's funny and it comes from both sides.

00:04:19.980 Like I've openly said many a time, I'm vaccinated.

00:04:23.720 I do think it's a good idea for people to get vaccinated.

00:04:26.100 I just don't ever want to see them forced to get vaccinated.

00:04:28.880 There's a big line.

00:04:29.800 But when I take that stance, I tend to get it from both sides.

00:04:33.120 And no, I, you know what?

00:04:35.020 Like, I don't think that there's anyone, there's certainly no one working on my campaign

00:04:39.640 who believes that you should be forced not to get vaccinated.

00:04:43.480 There is certainly just the message that you should be free to make the choice that is

00:04:49.060 right for you.

00:04:49.800 And that's, that's for vaccination and many other issues.

00:04:53.360 Um, you know, and I, I get, I get phone calls every single day from the time I wake up in

00:04:58.020 the morning till the time I go to bed from people right now who are devastated because

00:05:02.440 their children are being excluded from extracurriculars at school.

00:05:06.160 They're being excluded from their athletics clubs that they've been part of for years and

00:05:10.440 years.

00:05:10.800 And we know that this is going to escalate and keep going if we don't put an end to it

00:05:14.260 now.

00:05:14.480 So this is not anti-vax, this is absolutely, uh, empowering every individual to be able

00:05:22.200 to make the choice that they want to make.

00:05:24.560 Yeah.

00:05:25.020 It's a, it's a pro-choice stance and, and, uh, and people are feeling cornered.

00:05:28.540 We're creating a segment of pariahs. 0.99

00:05:30.640 And unfortunately I do really worry that some people are very fearful of feeling very cornered.

00:05:36.420 And that's when we get on extreme reactions when they don't feel they have another outlet

00:05:39.700 to get out.

00:05:40.620 Well, people are being cornered.

00:05:41.880 You know, the other people that I hear from are people who are literally like within days

00:05:45.800 of now are going to lose their livelihoods over this issue.

00:05:49.500 And, uh, and they're creating a desperate class of people, you know, and they've been

00:05:54.840 doing it for 18 months now.

00:05:56.020 You know, the desperation just continues, uh, through like month after month after month.

00:06:01.700 Uh, you know, whether it's your business is closed and you're not allowed to operate

00:06:05.440 it, you can't put food on the table.

00:06:08.120 You're risking losing your home because of all of the COVID mandates.

00:06:12.100 Um, they are absolutely creating a desperate class of people.

00:06:16.120 And that's a very dangerous place to go.

00:06:18.120 And that, and it's also horrifying, uh, to see our government do this so blatantly.

00:06:23.620 Yeah.

00:06:23.880 Well, and, and, and watching people themselves, I mean, they've been whipped up.

00:06:26.800 It's a, it's a witch hunt mentality going on out there.

00:06:29.720 The pitchforks are out and I, I just don't like seeing this and, and it's very distressing.

00:06:35.900 Yeah.

00:06:36.480 I think, you know, with the, just specifically with the vaccine mandate, you know, you, you

00:06:41.360 disclose your vaccination status already, but like the, the message that I keep telling

00:06:45.860 people is like, you are under no obligation to disclose your vaccination status.

00:06:50.400 That is protected private medical information that you do not have to share.

00:06:55.300 And you shouldn't, whether you're vaccinated or not, you should not be sharing that with

00:06:58.400 people, you know, and if more people, yeah, but you know, I mean, this is a serious issue

00:07:05.740 and people need to understand what their rights are and, uh, and, and take control of them

00:07:12.140 and, and enact them.

00:07:14.900 Oh, absolutely.

00:07:15.680 Again, that's what I mean.

00:07:16.640 It always just keeps coming back to the choice aspect.

00:07:19.400 Yeah.

00:07:20.480 Now that the PPC is gaining steam is definitely gathering attraction.

00:07:23.420 Sounds like today in Alberta, there's going to be a big rally in Strathmore with, with

00:07:26.640 Maxime Bernier, uh, you're attracting the attention finally of the mainstream media,

00:07:31.680 but not in a good way for the most part.

00:07:33.180 They're going on about the, the vote splitting and so on.

00:07:36.140 Perhaps again, just to expand a bit on why perhaps the people can feel comfortable voting

00:07:40.400 for the PPC and not causing an outcome worse, you know, a cure worse than the disease, I guess.

00:07:45.660 Um, so I tell people all the time, um, vote splitting is a political strategy.

00:07:52.020 The narrative is a political strategy of the political establishment.

00:07:56.040 Uh, they tell you about vote splitting and they tell you that your vote is going to contribute

00:08:00.520 to this in order to manipulate you as an elector to not vote for who you want to vote for.

00:08:06.260 I hear this all the time from people saying, I want to vote PPC, but I, but I have to vote

00:08:11.260 conservative or else Trudeau is going to get in.

00:08:12.860 Well, no, if we all just voted PPC, then, then Trudeau wouldn't get in, you know?

00:08:18.020 And, and I, the vote splitting thing, it, it, it irks me, um, because it's just not true.

00:08:24.300 And, and it's just another way that our democracy is degraded and eroded through establishment

00:08:30.860 party rhetoric.

00:08:32.780 Yeah.

00:08:32.900 The standard took a formal editorial stance actually of just saying vote with your conscience.

00:08:37.080 That's all we would ever ask as a publication.

00:08:39.080 Uh, don't sweat all the other strategic stuff and everything vote for who you feel best

00:08:43.040 represents you.

00:08:44.900 Yeah.

00:08:45.020 Well, that's what our democracy is about.

00:08:46.540 And I think that there's another part of this that's interesting is that, um, people are

00:08:50.320 so focused on the leaders and that we've seen this in our, in our democracy for ages and

00:08:55.100 ages, uh, where people will say like, oh, well I voted for Maxime or I voted for Justin or

00:08:59.520 whoever it is.

00:09:00.740 Um, you're voting for the person who is going to best represent you in the riding that you live

00:09:06.700 in.

00:09:06.860 Um, so right now in the riding that I live in, there's a conservative incumbent.

00:09:12.480 And so if you're voting conservative, just to not split the vote, you're literally going

00:09:17.000 to get the same thing that you've had for the last six years.

00:09:20.660 Yeah.

00:09:21.600 You're not getting anything different.

00:09:23.120 Right.

00:09:24.700 So the other attention has been gathered and I don't know if you've heard this yet, so

00:09:27.860 I don't want to be throwing you for a loop, but our newsroom is working on this actually

00:09:30.420 right now.

00:09:31.100 Um, there was a recording of a teacher in Hamilton taken by a student.

00:09:36.080 Uh, they were breaking up the class, you know, a political exercise in class saying students

00:09:40.220 representing this party, this party, this party.

00:09:42.260 Uh, one of them said, well, well, I want to be PPC.

00:09:44.920 And the teacher outright came out and said, no, we won't have that in here.

00:09:48.820 The party has racist policies and it's not going to happen in this classroom.

00:09:53.840 And, uh, the student actually said, well, I'm excusing myself.

00:09:56.600 I'm leaving right now, but we're seeing things from public civil servants that really shouldn't

00:10:01.780 bloody well throw in their opinion on our students like that.

00:10:04.080 Plus, as far as I can tell, uh, I've seen more, uh, NDP candidates kicked out for anti-Semitism

00:10:10.200 than I have, uh, racism issues with the PPC right now.

00:10:13.240 Absolutely.

00:10:14.060 I mean, you know, this idea, I'll tell you a story.

00:10:18.300 Okay.

00:10:18.940 I, uh, a gentleman from the riding called me the other day.

00:10:22.240 He's a lifelong NDP voter.

00:10:24.140 Um, he's involved in the, the party and the, the riding association, uh, to some extent,

00:10:30.920 he's not a member, but, uh, very involved.

00:10:33.500 And we, and we started the call and, and he was sort of, you know, very, he, he was unsure

00:10:39.360 about speaking with me.

00:10:40.860 And I said to him at the very beginning, I said, uh, I guarantee you, I promise you that

00:10:45.260 when, uh, we are finished this conversation, you will know that there's, we have more in

00:10:49.260 common than, than you would think.

00:10:50.780 And so we spoke for an hour and after an hour, he said, oh no, oh no.

00:10:56.080 You know, there was distress in his voice.

00:10:57.860 Oh no.

00:10:58.820 He said, what?

00:11:00.340 I don't understand.

00:11:01.300 Why do people call you guys racists?

00:11:03.940 Cause I'm not, you know, we're not.

00:11:06.240 Yeah.

00:11:06.480 Uh, and, and I said, once again, just like vote splitting, it is a narrative.

00:11:12.400 It's a political strategy to manipulate electors. 0.70

00:11:15.300 Um, they know how powerful the message of the PPC is, and they know that if people hear

00:11:20.220 it, that they will vote for it.

00:11:22.300 And if they vote PPC, then we have to see establishment politics done completely differently

00:11:27.840 in this country.

00:11:28.460 And that means that the people who are benefiting today from the system will no longer benefit

00:11:33.220 tomorrow.

00:11:33.680 And so they want to do everything they can.

00:11:36.760 And so they pull out things like calling us racist, which we are absolutely not.

00:11:41.140 No, throwing out racists, it was always been the simple, shallow way to try and discredit

00:11:45.020 somebody.

00:11:45.400 I know from our Calgary candidates looking around, we have Edward Gow, who I know through

00:11:50.180 libertarian politics for quite some time and Harry Dillon.

00:11:52.860 And while I don't know the membership requirements for the white supremacist groups, but I'm pretty

00:11:57.180 sure there's something going on with those two that would exclude them from joining that

00:12:01.020 bunch.

00:12:01.640 Why on earth would they be running then if it was such a racist organization? 0.75

00:12:05.540 Well, absolutely.

00:12:06.380 And like myself, you know, my, my background is working in nonprofit.

00:12:10.260 I worked with immigrant and refugee women on workplace and cultural integration programs.

00:12:14.200 Like that's, that's what I did for a living.

00:12:16.720 I care deeply about all people, all individuals in this country.

00:12:21.700 Their lives matter and they deserve respect and dignity.

00:12:25.820 And these are, these are concepts that are very dangerous to the establishment because

00:12:29.960 it takes away the control power and money that they currently have.

00:12:34.160 Yeah.

00:12:34.720 Well, and a lot of people of visible minorities, I mean, they came from places with oppressive,

00:12:39.840 overreaching government.

00:12:40.580 They want to see limited government and individual rights. 0.96

00:12:43.480 So I mean, to keep assuming that these guys are supposed to be socialists is ridiculous.

00:12:47.980 Well, it is like, you know, much of our, much of our immigrant population are incredibly 1.00

00:12:52.320 devout believers in God.

00:12:54.340 Um, and you know, they, they also want to have the option to, uh, raise their children in the

00:13:02.080 religion that they choose.

00:13:03.700 And they, I, I talked to them every day on the phone.

00:13:06.160 I talked to them and they see like this, this push for complete secularism, um, as, as very

00:13:13.360 dangerous to their communities.

00:13:15.380 And, and so that's, it's an interesting thing that the immigrant populations and the first

00:13:21.000 generation, second generation immigrant populations.

00:13:23.160 And also just like the, the, the ethnic populations across the country are coming to the PPC as well.

00:13:29.540 Um, they're finally seeing the representation that they want without the pandering.

00:13:34.720 Yeah.

00:13:35.020 If people truly want to see a problem with discrimination, they can go to Quebec and

00:13:38.880 look at bill 21, but nobody wants to talk about that.

00:13:41.060 Exactly.

00:13:42.800 Okay.

00:13:43.140 So, um, I'll let you get back on the campaign trail.

00:13:45.740 Where can people find out more information about the party and your campaign itself?

00:13:50.240 Sure.

00:13:50.540 So, uh, the party can be found at people's party of Canada.ca.

00:13:54.620 Uh, myself, my website is Chelsea Hillyer, PPC.ca.

00:13:58.880 You can find me across all social media platforms as well.

00:14:01.640 Um, follow me on Twitter at Chelsea Hillyer and then Maxine Bernier, obviously is a good 1.00

00:14:07.100 follow always on Twitter.

00:14:08.620 Um, so there's lots of information out there.

00:14:11.680 We're really, really active on, on social media online.

00:14:15.880 And I've also got a YouTube channel that you can check out just under my own name with,

00:14:19.060 uh, some videos that we've done about what's happened in this last year.

00:14:23.140 Great.

00:14:23.400 Well, thanks for joining me today.

00:14:24.760 And we look forward to seeing how Canada is looking after Monday night.

00:14:28.300 Sounds great.

00:14:28.880 Thanks Corey.

00:14:29.880 Thanks.

Western Standard - September 17, 2021

Election Special： Cory Morgan and the PPC's Chelsea Hillier

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