EXCLUSIVE: Alberta Sovereignty Act “Simply put, we need less Ottawa in our lives,”
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Bill C-69 is a bill that was introduced in the House of Commons of Commons on Nov. 22, 2019. It's a piece of legislation that would allow the provinces of Canada to assert their sovereignty over areas of their own borders, and the federal government would be required to respect the sovereignty of other provinces.
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Sovereignty Act. There's a unique policy stance right off the bat, and it certainly stands out,
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and it's a pretty loaded word right off the bat. So perhaps you can expand on what does that
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encompass? Well, remember how our constitution is written. Our constitution is written so that
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different entities have sovereignty over certain areas of jurisdiction. We are accustomed to hearing
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our First Nations talk about sovereignty. They have the authority to make rules within their
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boundaries. We're accustomed to hearing Quebec talk about sovereignty and how they have a right
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to make their own rules, and they often invoke the Charter Notwithstanding Clause in order to
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pretty well invoke whatever it is that they want. We've seen in both Quebec and Saskatchewan say that
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they want to be nations within a nation. We've seen British Columbia ask for exemption from criminal
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code laws. They for years didn't enforce cannabis regulation, and now they've asked for an exemption
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so they don't have to enforce any possession or criminal code laws against fentanyl and cocaine
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and crystal meth possession. And in addition, when you look at what happened at the federal level when
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they came in with the Emergencies Act, the National Assembly in Quebec, they convened a special meeting
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and said, we're just not going to enforce that here. So it's not actually that we would be proposing
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doing anything different other than what other provinces are already doing, which is recognizing that
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we have defined areas of constitutional powers. You can check it out in section 92. 92A is the one that
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I find the most important, which is that we have the exclusive jurisdiction to develop our own resources
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in our own way, which is an area that the federal government violates routinely. We just got a Supreme
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or an appeals court decision a few weeks ago saying that they have no jurisdiction in interfering in
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intra-provincial projects. Those are the ones that that exist completely within our borders. And with that
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backing us, I think we need to just put some teeth to it saying, we're going to make sure that Ottawa is on
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notice that when they try to invade our areas of jurisdiction, we're going to fight back.
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Well, we know we would have to fight back. I mean, the government never really makes a secret of the double
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standard. If Quebec wants to do something on their own, they will look the other way or even BC. But I mean, in
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Alberta, we will need teeth. I mean, they're unapologetic about, you know, when Quebec has their
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own pension plan, that's their God-given right. When Alberta does it, that means we're being selfish
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and nasty. So this act would have some means then to push further if we do have a conflict with the
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federal government? This is just one area. I mean, the ones where I think it would obviously come into
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effect are, for instance, if they dare to invoke the Emergencies Act again. And we're watching with the
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testimony. It was a false pretext that they used to try to invoke the act in the first place. And
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they're getting busted on that. We would do what Quebec did and said, it's not going to apply here.
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If they try to order our credit unions to start seizing accounts, we'll say, no, we have a
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jurisdiction over our credit unions. That isn't going to apply here. If they decide that they want to
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start punishing us because a new respiratory virus season, they want to start trying to impose
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federal sanctions on us, we can say, no, we're going to take a different approach. I mean, I look at
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what's happened in the U.S. on that issue in particular. The fact that Florida and South Dakota and other
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red states were able to chart a different course that was different than the blue states or the
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federal government, why didn't we? We can too. And I suspect it had something to do with the federal
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government putting pressure on us. When it comes down to all of the provisions of Bill C-69, I mean,
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we can't even build a 75 kilometer stretch of highway without the federal government declaring it
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a federal project. We're not even able to approve a 200 megawatt power plant. I've talked to some of the
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folks from the nuclear industry. Our oil sands operation want to decarbonize by bringing in
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small modular nuclear. Once again, because this is an area that the feds have declared their
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jurisdiction, it's going to delay us implementing that by 10 or 12 years. So I would say that we can
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do a better job in managing our own affairs. Those are just a few examples, I think, of areas where we
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would want to forge ahead on. And then let's reverse it. What they do is they invade our jurisdiction and
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then they force us to go to court to fight back. Well, let's just say we're asserting our jurisdiction
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and let them take us to court if they think that we've got it wrong. But there's so many things that
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we can do that we've got to take the lead on. And I think it's about time we started doing that.
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Great. Well, and that policy certainly gets you out of the gates and distinguishes you from some of the
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other campaigns right off the bat. But while I got you for a few minutes, and since it's the
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kickoff of the campaign, what else are you offering, you know, in your bid for the leadership?
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What else can Albertans expect from you, presuming you win this?
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I think you're going to see a lot more policy around this issue of how do we assert ourselves
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in confederation. I mean, the important thing that came to my mind as I've been writing about
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this over the last number of years is Alberta is going to be the second largest economy in the
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country within the next couple of years. If you project out on our population growth, especially
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since Quebec is stagnating, they don't seem to want to attract new population. At some point,
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those lines will cross. And somewhere around 2050, we will be the second most populous province
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in the country as well. So I have to ask the question, why are we acting like a junior partner?
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We're going to be the senior partner in confederation. And so we should be collecting
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our own personal income taxes. We should be enforcing our own laws with our own Alberta
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provincial police. We should be providing for our seniors with our own Alberta pension. We should
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be providing for our workers with our own employment insurance. We've got huge shortages of labor
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that we need to be able to fill the gaps in construction, in oilfield, in farm work. We
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should be taking control over attracting workers here as well, the same way Quebec and Manitoba do.
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I think we've just been entirely too passive, really. I get the sense that we are still traumatized by
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the NEP. And I guess we figured, well, if we just keep our heads down, we work really, really hard,
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we keep generating revenue for the rest of the country, they'll leave us alone.
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They won't. They're still coming at us. They won't leave us alone. And as a result, I think we've got
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our marching orders. We've got to do something completely different. We've got to assert ourselves
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and we've got to start acting like the senior partner that we're going to be.
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So likewise, I mean, we've got some policies coming from the federal government that aren't regionally
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targeted so much, but they're still pretty problematic when you'd be looking at provincial
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challenges to things such as C11, C18, C21. I mean, all those Cs, the lists of authoritarian actions on
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this government is getting really long and we need to find some sort of ways to counter these.
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Yeah, I have this adage, anything Ottawa can do, we can do better. And so I would love to actually
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start looking at ways in which we can maybe step on their turf and push into their territory. If they
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can't seem to manage an effective way of managing our airports, maybe we should take that over.
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If they can't manage our border crossings, maybe we should take that over too. If they are going to
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over-regulate our radio and television internet broadcasters, maybe we should have a regulatory
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process so that we can have them provincially regulated. It's interesting the way our constitution
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is set up is that there does, we do have two tiers of regulation. Like for instance, with the banks,
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the feds regulate the banks, but we get to regulate credit unions. The feds regulate cross-border
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transportation and trucking, but we regulate our own boundary, transportation and trucking.
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Why can't we just expand that concept out that if we feel that the federal government
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is acting in a way that's intrusive, deficient, and doesn't respect our Charter of Rights and
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Freedoms, why don't we see if we can develop our own areas of provincial regulatory authority
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so that we can enact laws that are in keeping with what our citizens want. I'm prepared to push
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the envelope as far as we actually need to, in order to make sure that Albertans' interests are protected.
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Great. Now I'll close this out with a question I promised a first responder that I'm going to put
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to every leadership candidate I get on. What would your plan be to address these ambulance response
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times and this difficulty we're having all across the province that just seems to not go away?
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I mean, we've been told now we need four months to study this. I got a feeling we could study it to
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death. We know some of the answers. I know exactly what the answers are. Rick Fraser was one of my
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colleagues in the legislature at the time. And what you have to do is have either a paramedic
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or a nurse practitioner on site at every single hospital who can onboard patients and off-board
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patients from ambulance so that ambulance are able to do a very quick turnaround. The issue is that
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nobody wants to take responsibility when a patient is dropped off. And so they sit and make our ambulance
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drivers wait for six or eight hours and sometimes an entire shift. That doesn't have to happen. We should
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have a very efficient process where there's practitioners who have the same level of medical training,
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able to receive patients so that we can get those ambulance back out and in their community. That
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would be one thing. I've also talked to one community. I don't want to name them because I
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don't want them to get into trouble, but they have two ambulances that get deployed in the regular
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service and they keep one back so that their community is never left without having ambulance
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in their territory. If we're going to make sure that we've got an integrated system, that we have to
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have that same kind of backup so that no rural community is ever left without their seniors worrying that
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they might not be able to to get an ambulance when the call is made. These are not difficult
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problems to solve. It takes political will and it takes the federal, the provincial government
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taking some control back from Alberta Health Services, which is mismanaging this and has been
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mismanaging this from the start and start being more directive so that we can actually solve the
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problems. Excellent. Well, thank you for a good quick, clear, concise answer on that. I'll let you go. I know
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you're on a tight schedule today. I appreciate you coming in to talk to us and I hope and imagine
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we'll talk a time or two again before the end of this race. Sure will. Thanks, Corey.