Western Standard - July 11, 2022


EXCLUSIVE： Pierre Poilievre speaks on Alberta's sovereignty & energy independence

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food prices and affordability
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Tamara Leach Paulyov Trudeau
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On this episode of The Western Standard, I sit down with former Prime Minister Ralph Peters to discuss his campaign and what he would do if elected Prime Minister of Canada. We discuss his vision for the future of the country, the energy sector, the environment, and much more.

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00:00:00.000 Well, Mr. Paulyov, welcome to the Western Standard Studio, and thank you very much for making some time to come down here from your stampede rounds.
00:00:06.160 I know you've been running hard and popping up all over, so I appreciate it. Welcome.
00:00:10.300 Great to be with you.
00:00:11.520 So we'll get straight to it. This is the Western Standard. You're in the West. You're at the stampede.
00:00:16.400 I'm stuck by a dress code. I have to wear this thing, but you can wear the stampede where I see.
00:00:20.960 I want to start with that, the Western issues. I'm sure you've been hearing that the last few days.
00:00:24.760 The alienation, Alberta, B.C., Saskatchewan, you know, secessionism is at all-time highs, and that would be, I would like to think, one of your prime tasks as a prime minister.
00:00:34.900 How do you unify this country?
00:00:37.920 Well, we have to put an end to the pay-up-and-shut-up attitude Ottawa has had to Western Canada for far too long.
00:00:46.980 We need to treat Alberta and the West as full partners and give Albertans the same rights and freedoms within Confederation as every other province has.
00:01:01.020 And that includes allowing the development of our clean and responsible energy sector here.
00:01:07.540 As you know, we have the most ethical energy production on planet Earth.
00:01:14.300 The International Energy Agency says that for the next 20 years, the world will be consuming 60 million barrels of oil at least every single day.
00:01:24.380 And I think it's best for that oil or largest part of it to come from democracies that protect their environments and their people.
00:01:35.160 And there's no one that does that better than Albertans and Saskatchewanians.
00:01:38.600 So we, I'll be repealing C-69, C-48, and removing the carbon tax to allow for our sector to succeed.
00:01:50.680 And while incentivizing continued environmental advances that the sector has been making over the last decades.
00:01:57.640 So I think if you give Albertans the freedom to produce incomes for themselves and for the country, get the gatekeepers in Ottawa out of the way, then we will be able to produce not only bigger, more powerful paychecks, inflation-proof paychecks for Western Canadians, but it will unify the country.
00:02:20.780 So getting product east, of course, would really make a great deal in energy security for us right now.
00:02:26.000 We just don't have a decent pipeline getting out there.
00:02:28.800 And Energy East died on the vine.
00:02:30.260 It was regulated to death.
00:02:31.860 But another hindrance there was, I mean, Quebec was making very strong signals that we're just not going to let that thing cross our territory.
00:02:37.380 You'd have a tough juggling act.
00:02:38.600 I mean, do you respect provincial autonomy or do you enforce it as federal authorities saying an inter-provincial pipeline has to go?
00:02:46.000 Where would you work with it?
00:02:46.780 Well, first of all, I've stated in Quebec, as I state everywhere, that I believe that Energy East was good for Canada, for all of Canada, including for Quebec.
00:02:56.400 Energy East would have gone right through my riding, and I supported the project in my riding just as much as I do out here.
00:03:03.100 Now, I can't promise you that industry is going to come forward with another proposal to run an east-west pipeline.
00:03:12.380 But I do think it would be good for the country if we could clear a corridor that is environmentally responsible, that respects First Nations, that delivers a million or so barrels from western Canada to our east coast refineries.
00:03:28.620 And for both for export to the world, but also to break Atlantic Canadian dependence on overseas oil imports and the tankers.
00:03:38.840 And it's funny, the liberals are banning tankers, so-called banning tankers off the west coast, but welcoming them in the east coast because the oil in those tankers is foreign.
00:03:48.960 And so when I go to Quebec, I say, listen, we appreciate that Quebecers want to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, but the debate is really about where our energy comes from.
00:04:04.340 And when you ask Quebecers would they rather buy western Canadian energy or American and overseas energy, they prefer western energy.
00:04:13.040 There's polling data to support that.
00:04:14.580 So I would side with those Quebecers who believe in supporting our own sector here in Canada, as opposed to those like the Bloc Québécois and the liberals who want us to continue to send money to Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, and other overseas polluting dictatorships.
00:04:33.280 Yeah, well, a lot of signaling, as you said, you know, private industry.
00:04:35.920 Well, if they felt a secure environment to invest in, there'd be a better chance they would step up.
00:04:39.420 But right now, I mean, you'd be crazy to invest, to be honest, because you'd shut down any time.
00:04:44.420 The Trans Mountain Pipeline has been dragging its way for years through B.C.
00:04:49.040 But I want to tie it in also to showing government signals of priorities.
00:04:52.860 The Coastal Gas Link Pipeline, I mean, it's been a victim of eco-terrorism, constant blockades, constant people arrested, re-arrested, re-arrested.
00:05:00.120 We can't even seem to keep the multi-offenders in jail there yet. 1.00
00:05:03.260 Tamera Leach is incarcerated on what I say is a minor bail violation out east.
00:05:09.560 It's just that the priorities of this government seem to be skewed.
00:05:12.500 How can you adjust for that, I guess?
00:05:15.360 Well, listen, we need the Trans Mountain Pipeline.
00:05:20.460 The problem is that we live in a country now where nothing can get done, nothing can get built,
00:05:25.760 whether it's just a building permit to build a normal detached house or a major mining enterprise.
00:05:35.220 You can't get a permit.
00:05:37.400 I think OECD ranks us 35 out of 36 nations for the time it takes to get a building permit to do anything,
00:05:44.060 a warehouse, a pipeline, a mine, a house.
00:05:48.700 And so what we need to do is become the fastest place in the developed world to approve pipe, excuse me,
00:05:55.580 to approve building permits for projects of all sizes.
00:06:00.120 You can protect the environment and health and safety while giving fast and predictable decisions.
00:06:08.940 And, you know, you see countries like Singapore and Switzerland and others that they can manage to protect their people
00:06:17.020 and their ecosystem without keeping entrepreneurs waiting for a decade to get a decision.
00:06:24.340 And so we need to remove the regulatory gatekeepers, speed up approvals for responsible projects,
00:06:29.820 and actually get things done in this country.
00:06:32.380 Likewise, there's a proposal, you know, we're getting a lot of pressure with carbon taxes.
00:06:36.060 We covered that in a past interview with where you stand on that.
00:06:38.520 But agriculturally, something surfaced.
00:06:40.680 It looks like they're coming after fertilizer, as we're seeing in the Netherlands, where there's quite an uprising.
00:06:45.560 Would you, you know, at least stand up for the farmers on that one?
00:06:48.620 Because this could be a pending disaster as well.
00:06:51.220 You know, it is just incredible.
00:06:52.780 First of all, it's incredible that we have to be reliant on foreign countries for fertilizer,
00:06:56.960 at least for nitrogen and potash, because we have our own here in Canada.
00:07:02.620 But that's the first point.
00:07:04.180 The second point is, I don't know how these governments think that we're going to feed ourselves without fertilizer.
00:07:11.260 We're going to drastically reduce the output per acre.
00:07:15.200 One, the irony of that is you'd need a far more farmland and a far bigger footprint for agriculture if you had less, if you didn't have fertilizer.
00:07:24.080 The second thing is, you'd have much more expensive food.
00:07:28.020 And the third thing is, you'd have much lower incomes for our farmers.
00:07:31.880 So fertilizers give us the chance to eat more abundant, nutritious food at more affordable prices.
00:07:37.900 And the alternative is a brutal poverty, particularly for the vulnerable who can't afford price increases.
00:07:44.920 I think people around the world are speaking out against this gatekeeper agenda that attacks energy and food supply chains
00:07:57.760 and countless other essentials that we need to survive and thrive as a species.
00:08:03.680 And so I'm going to defend the ability of farmers to use environmentally responsible fertilizers that feed our people
00:08:11.540 and make food affordable for every Canadian.
00:08:14.020 Well, that's great.
00:08:15.440 It's just such a frustrating irony.
00:08:17.840 We're in a country with such abundant resources and we're paying some of the highest prices on earth for it and seem to be punishing ourselves for having developed them.
00:08:24.440 Well, food prices are up 10 percent according to the most recent CPI data.
00:08:28.520 One year, 10 percent increase.
00:08:30.840 And some of the most nutritious foods are up the most.
00:08:34.360 So this drives our poorest people into forced to be making bad nutritional decisions for their kids.
00:08:42.220 I think I saw a poll about six or seven months ago saying that four in five families have either cut the quality or quantity of their diet to adjust for food prices.
00:08:52.940 This is bad for our health.
00:08:55.100 It's bad for our poorest people.
00:08:59.600 And we need to put an end to it.
00:09:01.520 We should have affordable food.
00:09:03.260 We have among the most abundant supply of arable land on earth.
00:09:06.760 Let's use it to feed our people. 0.98
00:09:08.440 Well, yeah, and it's ridiculous.
00:09:09.340 And we're going to see more instability, obviously, with events in Europe, unfortunately, that's ongoing.
00:09:13.240 And that's sort of the breadbasket of Europe.
00:09:15.220 We should be planning at least to keep the cost of living reasonable around here.
00:09:19.520 I'll finish going with some self-interest topic, though.
00:09:23.020 We've got an authoritarian government that just seems bent on controlling the media, controlling the Internet, controlling expression and speech.
00:09:29.040 We've got C-18.
00:09:29.980 We've got C-11.
00:09:31.900 What could you do to protect independent outlets so that if and when you became prime minister, I could be unfettered in criticizing you and ripping into your government if you go the wrong way?
00:09:40.880 Thanks for the warning.
00:09:41.880 Yeah, no problem.
00:09:42.440 No, listen, I believe in free speech, and I will repeal C-11.
00:09:47.960 In fact, in the previous parliament, C-11 was called C-10, and it was the same censorship concept.
00:09:55.100 CRTC would have the ability to manipulate social media algorithms to promote content favorable to the government and demote content the government doesn't want people to see, which is a form of censorship.
00:10:07.240 That's why I fought hard in the last parliament to delay the passage of C-10 so it never actually made it through the Senate before Trudeau called the election.
00:10:17.180 And it's why I'm fighting against C-11 now. 0.94
00:10:19.820 And if, God forbid, it does become law when I'm prime minister, I will repeal it.
00:10:24.840 Okay.
00:10:25.260 Well, that's about all I've got for you today.
00:10:27.640 I know you just had time for a quick visit.
00:10:29.340 Is there more you'd like to add before we let you go here?
00:10:31.400 Well, I feel like people have lost control of their lives.
00:10:34.120 It's a big, bossy government taking people's money and telling them what to do.
00:10:38.940 And that's why I'm running for prime minister to put you back in charge of your life, make Canada the freest nation on earth, let people make their own decisions with their bodies, with their money, with their businesses, with their families, and get the state out of the way.
00:10:53.700 Hey, government should only do what people can't do for themselves and leave the rest to communities, to families, entrepreneurs, so that they can fulfill their potential with as little interference as possible.
00:11:09.520 I appreciate that.
00:11:10.780 I'll let you get back to your stampede campaigning and we'll watch the leadership as it unfolds in the coming months.
00:11:17.020 Happy stampeding to you, my friend.
00:11:18.060 I hope we can talk again down the road.
00:11:19.460 Thank you.
00:11:19.900 Thanks.
00:11:20.100 Thank you.