00:00:49.740it's all right he doesn't mean it i don't i don't know even where to go from with that
00:01:01.300and uh western standard uh bc colonist at least mills i from the regulatory and political dumpster
00:01:09.400fire of the country nice to be here very good uh well uh fun show today uh a group of kind of
00:01:21.060ottawa suck up super federalists to think that uh it doesn't matter under any circumstance no
00:01:27.400matter what no matter how much uh say the ottawa husband beats the alberta wife alberta should stay
00:01:33.700in Canada no matter what. They say they have enough signatures to trigger a referendum on
00:01:39.920staying in Canada. They didn't seem to think through the other side as if people vote no.
00:01:47.920That would seem to imply Albertans would vote to leave Canada and become independent.
00:01:53.980As that dawns on them, much hilarity is ensuing. So we're going to talk about what appears very
00:02:00.500possibly to be an upcoming referendum on Alberta independence, started by those who do not want
00:02:07.860independence. Thanks for coming up, guys. The Alberta teacher strike is over. They've been
00:02:15.200legislated back to work. No one seems to really know what they wanted at this point. They were
00:02:19.980given pretty much everything they wanted, and they kept on saying no, no, no. The Alberta UCP
00:02:25.480government under danielle smith as legislated them back to work and uh union thugs are promising
00:02:33.500war class war we're gonna have a general strike or something crazy we're gonna overthrow the
00:02:39.140government because teachers should only have to work 20 days a year or something i i don't
00:02:43.440really understand what their what their grievance is but we're gonna talk about those grievances
00:02:46.980But first, Doug Ford swings and misses. He spent $75 million of Ontario taxpayers' money on an advertising campaign in the United States, making the case against tariffs.
00:04:37.240We don't think we think of ourselves as we're not American, but then we immediately think of ourselves as completely American and fully entitled to meddle in their politics.
00:04:46.620So, you know, I asked Canadians who are thinking, you know, signing with Doug Ford here.
00:04:52.820How would we feel if Donald Trump spent an American equivalent sum of money in Canada arguing against supply management?
00:05:05.220I think supply management should be gone, but I would certainly think that is dangerous and illegal foreign meddling for a foreign government to run advertisements on stations in Canada telling us to change our foreign policy.
00:05:42.560So why would it suit Mark Carney to have that out there?
00:05:47.320First, to your point about whether there was any misrepresentation,
00:05:50.100I gather that the order of Reagan's speech had been altered somewhat, but whether it was, it wasn't, or whether it was completely misrepresented, why did it suit Mr. Carney to poke Trump like that at this time?
00:13:53.620you know sorry but um but let's just go through a thought exercise if danielle smith had done
00:14:01.960something i don't know what maybe run an ad i don't think this is what how she would have
00:14:06.320handled the united states but uh say she'd say she had run an ad saying uh the united states
00:14:11.980should um uh lift all tariff should build pipelines you know but that's conceivably
00:14:19.320something she'd like to do but she had said uh you know and done it in a way that would be
00:14:23.740disadvantageous to republicans you know days before the midterm election and donald trump
00:14:30.160reacted the same way suspending negotiations how do you think then mark carney and the national
00:14:39.040legacy media i don't rephrase it because i know exactly what you're gonna say yeah but like why
00:14:44.820Maybe that's more interesting. Why would the national media, the chattering classes, the political classes, why would they do you think they would react so differently if Daniel Smith had done something similar and had the same catastrophic result come from it?
00:15:00.020Well, it's because we have a political culture war going on in this country, really.
00:15:03.660And the battle lines are drawn almost between the Ontario legislature, the federal parliament, and Premier Smith, who's really kind of the last bastion of an unapologetic conservative in this country.
00:15:13.580Scott Moll, I guess, arguably could be the same thing, but she's the figurehead of it.
00:15:18.540And the legacy media, for the most part, are supportive of this progressive approach, this nouveau liberal approach.
00:15:25.820and they want to take any opportunity they can
00:30:05.940so he's never actually been a united conservative
00:30:09.080member in Alberta he's never been a member of the
00:30:11.020conservative party of Canada as far as I know at least
00:30:13.000But the media like to try and portray him as a conservative, even though there's not a single conservative who would take ownership over this guy in Alberta.
00:30:21.340So he wanted to preempt the independence movement from going out and triggering a referendum on independence, which would have words that meet the Clarity Act requirements for a constitutionally valid referendum.
00:30:38.800the wording that had been proposed by the Alberta
00:30:41.940Prosperity Group was something to the effect of
00:32:58.480So if they're staying true to the question, I mean, if they, you know, made it a question about something completely unrelated, that would be violating the basis of the thing, but they could change it to, you know, should Alberta become an independent province? It's the same question. It's just asking a different way, which would put it into the more positive yes end of it, but it's still a referendum on independence.
00:33:19.400The other thing is, too, it seems like Lukasik's already backtracking a bit. He's saying, no, no, no, no, I wasn't trying to trigger a referendum. We're trying to just have the question go to the legislature. But his own initial paperwork says, no, you're going for a referendum.
00:33:32.740Hold on. Let's play that clip from Danielle Smith at the press conference where, okay, just roll it. I don't want this to operate.
00:33:39.440Mr. Lukasik's vote is a yes, no question. It is a separatist referendum. He may be trying to characterize it differently. But if you ask people if you want to remain in Alberta, yes or no, there are implications if people answer no.
00:33:55.820Okay, so Danielle Smith says, all right, thanks for coming out, Tom. You just triggered an independence referendum. He's like, no, that's not what I meant to do. He's like, well, that's what you did do.
00:34:05.800yeah you know the father of alberta independence found his father of alberta's republic thomas
00:34:12.120lucas well i mean to the credit you know that was quite an effort 400 some thousands they did
00:34:18.520more than i would imagine that was a sign a good organization but it comes right down to careful
00:34:23.160what you wish for fabio because you just got it and uh the campaign will begin sometime next year
00:34:29.720yeah at least uh i i don't know how much you know this does this clown or not but i do
00:34:35.800Okay. I didn't think they could do it.
00:34:38.760At some point, someone's going to check the tape to when this started, and I was like, you know, Bob's my uncle if they can actually get the signatures.
00:34:46.860Because credit where it's due, that's a lot of signatures to get, and it may or may not be valid after they verify every single name on the voters list.
00:34:54.720They've hired, like, a ton of staff to go through it.
00:34:57.900But yeah, we've got this guy here who's just on the side of every single left-wing cause.
00:35:05.480He never appears on the conservative side of anything, but the media try to portray him as a conservative because he was a progressive conservative under Alison Redford.
00:35:11.920That's like saying, I was a moderate in the Bolshevists at some point, you know.
00:35:18.560But yeah, I don't know, just your reaction that we've got a hardline left wing federalist in Alberta who just seems to have woken up to the realization that his referendum is a referendum on independence.
00:35:31.460i this was what i never understood about him i mean i understand that he's a um edmonton
00:35:39.040coattail rider so that's how he was in the pcs he knew he could win um and you know he's from
00:35:45.460edmonton um but you know i that's what i never understood about him and i i don't tangle with
00:35:51.760him because there's no point there's no point in calling him out on twitter but it was very obvious
00:35:56.840to many of us conservatives in bc and i think uh federally as well that it seemed counterintuitive
00:36:02.680but as i said to one former wild rose mla uh nate did he need a job and he didn't seem to think so
00:36:11.400because he has a whopping pension um from his time at the alberta legislature so i didn't understand
00:36:18.200it and i didn't understand that he didn't understand it no alberta mlas haven't had a
00:36:23.720pension since 1993 oh there were something called transition allowances that were that's what i'm
00:36:29.320talking about yeah a transition they're they're a temporary thing it's not like a lifetime pension
00:36:35.400the way say members of the federal parliament it's not quite the same system yeah that i we
00:36:41.000were speculating on what he did with that money and it doesn't matter it's his money it's his
00:36:45.480business but it seemed really like make a job for him and then when you were i was inundated with
00:36:51.320his instagram post and i don't know why this is showing up in my feed but i thought it was just
00:36:56.040so creepy i mean he did the bedroom files from his rv uh you know and pjs with his hand on his
00:37:03.080you know with his legs kicking up at the back and i just thought this is a sexual harassment
00:37:07.480case waiting to happen uh you know boys or girls i could not unsee fabio laying there
00:37:15.240Oh, you know what I'm talking about. And I just felt like he needed something. And I just thought, you know, his wife was once a respected CTV news anchor. And I thought, is she even in the picture anymore? Because a good wife would just literally take the, you know, the cane and pull him off the stage. Because he's made he's so foolish and so embarrassing. But you know, there are Albertans that really believe in staying in the in the knitted into Canada. But
00:37:45.240I think we also and I'm sure you guys would agree. There are Alberta Albertans that do support
00:37:50.760staying, but there are it's conditional. It's not, hey, the relationship is awesome. Let's throw a
00:37:56.920party if we win. It's not about that. But all of us were sort of waiting for Thomas to understand
00:38:03.280his own punchline to all of this, that you're going to trigger a referendum. But again, I think
00:38:09.160just as it always is with Thomas, it's about his own bank account, his own image, his own social