Western Standard - FILDEBRANDT： Nihilism, reform, or revolution？ Young men in 2025

00:00:00.040 So in a few in a couple of minutes actually I'll just get right into it

00:00:03.920 because why waste any time so as Margaret Thatcher would say it is a it is a sin

00:00:10.240 to waste time so if right now I'm gonna I'm really pleased to introduce a dear

00:00:16.880 friend of the movement one of its I think brightest lights he was a lawyer

00:00:23.840 journalist he did a lot of work on radio I know in Ontario and of course he ran

00:00:32.080 this organization for a little while before before he decided I think rightly

00:00:37.100 to go and run for Parliament first in a by-election at the end of in mid 2023 I

00:00:44.120 think it was in for Oshawa and then of course was recently re-elected for

00:00:49.400 Bowmanville Oshawa North so I'm really really pleased to welcome my friend

00:00:53.780 and a great champion of the movement Mr. Jamil Javani

00:01:04.940 all righty good morning everybody thank you Adam for the kind introduction and

00:01:09.500 thank you to the Canada Strong and Free Network for inviting me here today I

00:01:13.020 bring greetings from the wonderful people of Bowmanville Oshawa North and yeah I'm

00:01:18.140 very excited to talk about the future of our country today we'll be joined on

00:01:22.560 stage by Derek shortly but I do want to share some thoughts on the future of

00:01:28.860 conservative politics in our country is a topic I've spent a lot of time

00:01:32.520 thinking about long before I became an MP I actually seven years ago wrote a book

00:01:37.860 about the challenges facing young men and seven years later now as a member of

00:01:43.980 Parliament I am compelled to point out that a lot of the problems that I wrote

00:01:49.720 about seven years ago have actually gotten worse and that young men in our

00:01:53.560 country are actually in a much tougher position than they were when I first

00:01:58.360 started looking into this topic things are getting more troublesome and I think

00:02:03.940 this is an important place to discuss this issue because I do believe that there

00:02:08.620 are some very serious ideological flaws in the Liberal Party of Canada in

00:02:14.320 liberal institutions and in best leaving that is true and I do not believe liberal

00:02:24.040 politicians are going to rise to the occasion and fight for our young men and I

00:02:28.000 do believe that is a responsibility of conservatives to take on that mantle so

00:02:32.740 I want to begin by first outlining the problem because it is very rare to see in

00:02:39.220 mainstream political discourse people talk about this so I do want to kind of

00:02:44.500 paint the picture of it for you of what is going on not just anecdotally but to be

00:02:50.840 very clear on from a statistical standpoint what young men are experiencing in

00:02:56.020 this country today so I'm gonna go through some data from stats can very

00:03:00.220 exciting stuff I'm sure you're excited to hear the numbers but I do think it's

00:03:03.940 important in 2024 71% of apparent opioid toxicity deaths were men 71% among older

00:03:15.340 teens who committed suicide 70% were boys and that's according to the SFU

00:03:21.340 Children's Policy Center in 2023 among the people who were living in homeless

00:03:28.120 shelters 67% were men since 2016 the homicide rate where men and boys are

00:03:36.340 victims has gone up 20% the most recent unemployment statistics from May of this

00:03:44.320 year showed that the unemployment rate among young men was 22% which is the

00:03:49.960 highest in well over 10 years and nationally prior to kovid about 14% of

00:03:58.060 boys were dropping out of high school and not graduating that number I am

00:04:02.380 certain has gotten worse but stats can has not published that data since kovid

00:04:07.240 occurred now I think it would be important to ask you know what is the sort of

00:04:11.740 institutional apparatus that we have in government to even start to identify a

00:04:17.500 strategy to respond to numbers like that and I mean the reality is that there is a

00:04:23.260 minister of women and gender equality in Ottawa there is an entire department with

00:04:28.840 that name there is no such minister responsible for talking about these

00:04:33.340 particular issues as it pertains to young men and I think that's where the

00:04:38.980 conservative movement has an important place and I'd like to clarify because as a

00:04:43.420 person who sort of had these conversations in the public square before I know

00:04:47.080 that people can sometimes get quite uncomfortable when you start to talk about

00:04:50.860 young men as a distinct group with distinct needs and challenges I

00:04:55.720 encountered this same discomfort when I first wrote my book seven years ago but I

00:05:02.100 have no intention of downplaying any problems real issues that young women face I

00:05:08.140 have no intention of downplaying any of the challenges that all people face my

00:05:12.820 objective really is to simply highlight that our young men are being overlooked

00:05:16.460 marginalized many of them feel forgotten and there is an institutional failure to

00:05:21.740 respond to that feeling young men are screaming silently in our country right

00:05:26.660 now because very few institutions are willing to hear them so with all these

00:05:32.660 statistics available you know I think it's important to ask well why doesn't

00:05:37.520 this register politically why doesn't this register in policy making circles why

00:05:41.740 isn't there a task force or initiative or all the other things that

00:05:45.240 governments like to do to demonstrate to the public that they're taking a

00:05:48.840 problem seriously and this is where I think it's important to really highlight

00:05:53.760 where liberal politics is failing and liberal ideology is failing the first part

00:06:00.660 that I I'd like to point out off the top is that liberal ideology and liberal

00:06:06.460 politics is committed to a particular way of looking at gender that I think is makes it

00:06:12.600 difficult to even raise the issue when you separate gender from sex and you make the

00:06:18.980 conversation about gender something that is many Canadians would feel they need a PhD

00:06:24.360 to even engage when you make it something so complicated that it cannot be

00:06:28.380 straightforward discussion about analysis and solutions you wind up creating a

00:06:33.760 scenario where a lot of people in power would rather spend their time trying to

00:06:38.080 figure out who a young man is than how to help him and that's sad and frustrating the

00:06:45.460 second problem we have is that liberal governance and when I say liberal I don't

00:06:50.400 even just mean in a partisan sense I mean in an ideological sense because this is

00:06:54.120 something true at all levels of government many places across the country has

00:06:57.820 absorbed a certain hierarchy of victimhood where the average working-class and

00:07:02.360 middle-class man is at the bottom now that hierarchy of victimhood is sometimes called DEI

00:07:07.740 and it goes by a variety of names that sound very nice and compassionate but the reality is

00:07:13.700 that DEI has been very successful at advancing the careers of very small number of people to

00:07:19.980 get on corporate boards of directors or to join university faculties and has been objectively a

00:07:26.420 failure in addressing many of the very serious social ills in our country yeah there are many

00:07:38.040 institutions in Canada right now where if I gave them those statistics that I just

00:07:42.560 read to you they would first want to know what color those young men are before they

00:07:47.720 would start to care and I think that is abhorrent and a third serious problem with

00:07:55.280 liberal governance is related to immigration so we have embraced in this country through 10 years

00:08:04.460 of liberals running the federal government an economic and immigration philosophy that devalues

00:08:09.860 young men in the labor force this is going to sound harsh but I think it needs to be said at the cost

00:08:18.540 of increasing youth unemployment to levels we have not seen in a very very long time liberals have

00:08:24.900 opened Canada's borders to enable an unprecedented level of immigration including a variety of

00:08:30.080 temporary worker programs this approach to managing our economy means that businesses and governments

00:08:36.920 can effectively abandon responsibility for Canadian youth because if our youth are ill prepared for the

00:08:44.880 jobs that are available or unwilling to work those jobs at the wages being offered businesses and

00:08:51.060 governments can simply fill those roles by bringing people in from elsewhere instead of investing in or

00:08:57.600 training or caring about why those young people aren't filling those jobs in the first place they have

00:09:04.800 decoupled the health of our economy from the health of our young people in doing so and practically

00:09:12.440 speaking that means young men are not treated as essential to the future of the Canadian economy if Canada's labor

00:09:20.680 supply is unlimited by opening borders up to the entire world liberal economic philosophy has left young men on the outside of the labor force and the metrics that have been typically used to measure our economy like GDP for example do not reflect the quality of life of young Canadians

00:09:39.700 this is really important to emphasize I believe because I think in a healthy society it would be one where

00:09:47.980 you care about the future of where your country is going and that you're actively measuring your success as a government

00:09:54.820 or a stewards of an economy based on how young people are being prepared for the future

00:10:01.680 but basic things like home ownership statistics for example make it obvious that young people are struggling to get ahead

00:10:08.780 and there's very little sense of urgency around this

00:10:12.240 it is not regarded as the crisis that it should be

00:10:15.380 and it is my contention

00:10:17.100 is that as in part explained by the decoupling of our economy from our young people

00:10:22.860 so I will give you a practical example of what I mean

00:10:26.540 something that I believe in a healthy society would be a controversy

00:10:30.620 something that everyone in this room would be aware of

00:10:33.440 something that we would be talking about

00:10:35.000 there would be news reports on

00:10:36.480 it would be a big deal

00:10:38.100 and yet it's not

00:10:39.700 so in my home province of Ontario

00:10:43.660 I know the premier of Ontario was here a couple months ago

00:10:47.200 for Stampede

00:10:48.700 and I'm sure he didn't talk to you about any of this stuff or anything serious

00:10:52.400 he'd think he came here to eat your pancakes probably

00:10:55.000 but Doug Ford is funding a special program at George Brown College

00:11:02.600 to train 50 students to become building code officials

00:11:08.340 sounds like an okay idea

00:11:10.800 the program is free

00:11:12.800 which is code for taxpayers are paying for it

00:11:16.220 but it is and I'm going to quote

00:11:19.540 only available to newcomers or immigrants

00:11:22.820 with a background or education in construction, engineering or other related fields

00:11:27.780 now when I say that this is the kind of thing that should be a controversy

00:11:31.680 what I mean is that when you're in an environment

00:11:34.180 where 22% of young Canadian men don't have jobs

00:11:38.980 and you are funding training programs that deliberately exclude them

00:11:43.700 from getting an opportunity

00:11:46.500 it should be outrageous

00:11:48.500 it should be outrageous to do this generally

00:11:52.200 but certainly with those unemployment numbers

00:11:54.440 happening at the same time

00:11:56.000 and at an institutional level

00:11:58.260 nobody really seems to care about this

00:11:59.840 it's not offensive

00:12:00.700 the way that I think it should be

00:12:03.100 I'm offended by that

00:12:04.540 for Doug Ford and politicians like him

00:12:15.600 like the Carney Liberals for example

00:12:18.100 this is normal, right?

00:12:20.400 it's a normal course of business

00:12:21.900 the alarm that I'm trying to ring about young men

00:12:27.400 is alarm they could have and should have heard long ago

00:12:29.900 but they are just frankly not concerned

00:12:31.880 they would rather, you know, pour a bottle of Crown Royal on the ground

00:12:36.420 so the media will call them a patriot

00:12:38.380 but there is a substantive difference in what we think patriotism means

00:12:44.180 right?

00:12:44.780 like I believe that patriotism is caring for the young people of this country

00:12:48.120 and putting their needs at the forefront

00:12:51.580 they don't

00:12:52.880 so with this context in mind

00:12:59.600 I think it's very important that we have a national conversation about the struggles

00:13:03.460 that young men are facing

00:13:05.100 I think we need to hold politicians and governments accountable to doing something

00:13:08.960 about these crises

00:13:10.040 that are affecting the next generation of Canadians

00:13:12.740 and I think the first step is ensuring that we are having a serious and honest discussion

00:13:17.760 about what's happening to our brothers, our sons, our neighbors, and our friends

00:13:22.300 there's a forward thinking dimension to this

00:13:26.740 that I think is also worth pointing out

00:13:28.940 which is that there is massive disruption on the forefront

00:13:33.740 you know, AI technology is going to change a lot of industries

00:13:37.540 it's going to change a lot of jobs

00:13:39.060 and I think that we have to be cognizant of what that's going to do

00:13:43.940 to people who are already having a tough time in our economy

00:13:47.400 there are indications that the youth unemployment number is in part a result of AI eliminating

00:13:54.760 a series of untrue level positions across the economy

00:13:59.040 that ordinarily would have been filled by university graduates

00:14:02.700 particularly male university graduates

00:14:06.740 and I think it's imperative to ask what exactly are we doing with this technology

00:14:11.440 and what function are we expecting it to serve in our society

00:14:16.040 if we are going to be comfortable with AI being used to eliminate jobs

00:14:20.740 that would otherwise have gone to young people

00:14:22.500 I think that has to feel like a choice we are making

00:14:26.700 and if the people who are in power are going to make that choice

00:14:30.480 then they should be held accountable for that choice

00:14:32.860 the idea that technology is a passive thing that just happens to us

00:14:37.620 and we react to it and we have no role to play in deciding how it would be implemented

00:14:42.920 or whose life it would affect

00:14:44.420 I think that is a falsehood

00:14:46.120 we are in charge

00:14:48.060 we make policies

00:14:49.380 we make decisions

00:14:50.220 and I think we need to ask ourselves if the purpose of AI

00:14:53.640 would be to augment the jobs that are already in the economy

00:14:57.640 or not

00:14:58.860 and if there is going to be disruption that leads to more unemployment

00:15:02.280 do we have a plan for the young men

00:15:05.120 who are now going to find themselves outside of the workforce

00:15:07.860 should these young men be studying something different in school

00:15:11.380 and if so what should they study

00:15:12.840 and who is going to actually tell them that

00:15:15.440 my friend Sam Duncan wrote an essay for the hub recently

00:15:20.340 about some of these questions

00:15:21.740 and he argues in my view rather persuasively

00:15:24.800 that AI has a tremendous potential to benefit Canadian workers

00:15:29.780 if we focus on it as a tool to boost productivity

00:15:33.220 and in that case

00:15:35.200 that would also need to be a deliberate conscious decision that we make

00:15:38.600 but my primary point here is to say that

00:15:42.480 we have a decision to make with this disruption

00:15:47.120 of whether we are going to prioritize the interests of young men

00:15:50.080 and young people at large

00:15:51.640 or if we are going to continue down a path

00:15:53.740 where young Canadians are pushed at the back of the line

00:15:56.380 and expected to not be listened to

00:15:59.620 or their interests to be served

00:16:01.760 and I think that conversation

00:16:04.260 we're probably late in starting it

00:16:06.520 but it's one that needs to happen

00:16:07.880 so I'll close today

00:16:09.980 because I do want to welcome Derek to the stage

00:16:13.440 but I will close by just wanting to kind of leave on a point of optimism

00:16:18.040 I believe optimism is a requirement

00:16:20.540 one of my biggest concerns

00:16:23.840 and I wrote about this seven years ago

00:16:25.580 is that in response to what I've described to you today

00:16:28.240 young men are going to take note

00:16:32.080 of how slow our institutions are to react

00:16:35.220 how little their experiences are being reflected

00:16:38.220 and what they're seeing around them

00:16:39.540 and they are going to opt to simply check out

00:16:42.420 my worry is that many young men will feel hopeless

00:16:45.920 to make the effort to get ahead

00:16:48.040 that they will play video games

00:16:51.220 instead of studying or working

00:16:52.560 they will watch porn instead of starting a family

00:16:55.380 they will become increasingly isolated

00:16:58.100 and the world will never get to know

00:16:59.900 how amazing they could be

00:17:01.440 so to anyone who might feel that way

00:17:06.920 any young man who might hear my words

00:17:09.460 I want to reiterate that our country needs you

00:17:12.720 the future of our country depends on you

00:17:16.280 taking control of your future

00:17:17.720 living up to your potential

00:17:19.840 we need you to get an education

00:17:22.300 we need you to start businesses

00:17:23.660 we need you to have families

00:17:25.200 we need you to buy a home

00:17:26.560 you are the hustlers and the strivers

00:17:29.540 the dreamers and the builders

00:17:30.900 who have always shaped Canada

00:17:33.400 and will continue to do so

00:17:35.080 and I am a member of parliament

00:17:38.380 precisely because I believe in you

00:17:42.080 I believe in the young people of this country

00:17:45.300 and I believe they are worth investing in

00:17:47.080 they are worth prioritizing

00:17:48.560 and they are worth empowering

00:17:49.600 so we are

00:17:58.960 my team

00:18:00.500 in Bowmanville Oshawa North

00:18:02.420 is launching a project

00:18:05.880 a national project

00:18:06.800 to try to elevate and prioritize

00:18:08.760 the issues that young men are facing

00:18:10.960 to bring greater voice

00:18:14.540 to these issues

00:18:16.280 and to put young men in a stronger position

00:18:18.900 to articulate what they are experiencing

00:18:20.980 and the changes that they believe are necessary

00:18:22.980 for them to live up to their potential

00:18:24.960 I invite anyone who wants to be part of that conversation

00:18:28.820 to work with us

00:18:29.740 to support us

00:18:30.380 to try to change

00:18:31.220 the lack of responsiveness

00:18:33.840 among our institutions today

00:18:35.280 to these problems

00:18:36.160 to help us

00:18:37.420 with this undertaking

00:18:38.380 and visit

00:18:40.040 our new website

00:18:41.680 restorethenorth.ca

00:18:43.840 thank you very much

00:18:45.040 applause

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00:18:59.040 I think it was a very prescient message

00:19:04.980 you shared there

00:19:06.200 that we're just not hearing

00:19:08.040 in a constructive way

00:19:09.140 from most elected officials

00:19:10.760 can I

00:19:12.080 how old are you right now?

00:19:13.320 37

00:19:13.720 37

00:19:14.240 I'm turning 40

00:19:16.100 in just a little over a month

00:19:18.040 and it's finally dawned

00:19:19.300 I'm used to being like

00:19:20.400 the young guy in the room

00:19:21.900 when I was

00:19:23.180 who are you?

00:19:29.040 I'm Derek Fildebrandt

00:19:31.900 I'm a publisher

00:19:32.920 of the Western Standard

00:19:33.740 uh

00:19:34.140 thank you

00:19:39.260 um

00:19:39.980 you know

00:19:40.760 I was elected

00:19:41.440 as a pretty young guy

00:19:42.180 when I got into politics

00:19:43.720 uh

00:19:44.580 29

00:19:45.060 I was by far

00:19:45.820 the youngest member

00:19:46.660 of the Wild Rose Caucus

00:19:47.700 I'm used to being

00:19:48.840 the young guy in the room

00:19:50.520 and I tried hard

00:19:51.260 not to be the token

00:19:52.140 young guy

00:19:53.060 um

00:19:54.240 but I

00:19:55.140 I think

00:19:55.820 there is

00:19:57.420 a

00:19:58.120 this is one of

00:20:00.240 I think

00:20:00.540 going to

00:20:00.840 develop to be

00:20:02.320 one of the defining

00:20:03.120 issues of our time

00:20:04.720 um

00:20:05.860 you touched on a lot

00:20:09.040 of it

00:20:09.180 I want to

00:20:10.040 maybe suss it out

00:20:11.060 a bit more here

00:20:11.800 um

00:20:12.660 we'll just start

00:20:13.620 maybe on the electoral level

00:20:14.900 when we get

00:20:15.700 maybe

00:20:16.540 then we'll get a bit deeper

00:20:17.680 uh

00:20:18.640 in the most recent

00:20:20.080 U.S. presidential election

00:20:21.420 young men skewed

00:20:23.300 strongly

00:20:24.300 for Trump

00:20:25.040 now there's

00:20:26.100 very often

00:20:27.120 normally been

00:20:28.260 some gender divide

00:20:29.440 at least

00:20:29.900 um

00:20:31.000 you know

00:20:32.000 uh

00:20:32.860 males

00:20:33.420 skew right

00:20:35.240 females

00:20:35.880 skew left

00:20:36.820 obviously with a lot of

00:20:37.960 exceptions to that

00:20:39.300 but in the aggregate

00:20:40.320 um

00:20:41.400 so we saw it in the United States

00:20:42.480 particularly among

00:20:43.780 young people

00:20:44.740 uh

00:20:45.320 you know

00:20:45.540 which remember

00:20:45.840 white dudes for Harris

00:20:47.400 uh

00:20:47.960 it was a

00:20:48.540 amongst the

00:20:49.540 the Democrats at least

00:20:51.540 started to recognize

00:20:52.720 they had a problem

00:20:53.560 at least

00:20:53.880 they just

00:20:54.260 did it pretty terribly

00:20:55.720 how they went about it

00:20:56.640 uh

00:20:57.340 we saw in the most recent

00:20:58.720 federal election

00:20:59.600 in Germany

00:21:00.380 the AFD

00:21:01.540 Alternative for Deutschland

00:21:02.780 um

00:21:03.740 kind of the insurgent

00:21:04.780 right party

00:21:05.360 young men

00:21:06.760 skewed hard

00:21:08.340 to the AFD

00:21:09.580 uh

00:21:10.640 young women

00:21:11.640 skewed hard

00:21:12.780 to Die Linke

00:21:13.920 which means

00:21:14.760 in German

00:21:15.200 the left

00:21:16.220 and it's

00:21:17.060 that party

00:21:17.700 you know

00:21:17.880 like

00:21:18.140 I pretty casually

00:21:19.600 call everybody

00:21:20.200 a commie

00:21:20.720 but

00:21:21.400 these guys

00:21:22.360 are the actual

00:21:23.160 commies

00:21:24.120 they're actually

00:21:24.900 a formal

00:21:25.740 successor party

00:21:27.180 to the East German

00:21:27.760 Communist Party

00:21:28.520 um

00:21:29.860 so people

00:21:31.060 what do you think

00:21:33.080 is causing

00:21:33.640 the electoral

00:21:34.820 and partisan

00:21:36.220 divergence

00:21:36.860 among young men

00:21:38.220 and young women

00:21:38.620 there's a

00:21:38.940 there's a lot of

00:21:39.720 issues facing

00:21:40.300 young women

00:21:40.760 some of them

00:21:41.820 are similar

00:21:42.940 or even the same

00:21:44.540 but some are different

00:21:45.660 and it's

00:21:46.620 this is manifesting

00:21:47.420 itself in a

00:21:48.040 partisan

00:21:48.440 and an electoral

00:21:49.200 uh

00:21:50.240 way

00:21:50.460 what do you think

00:21:51.160 is driving that

00:21:51.940 divide

00:21:52.380 yeah

00:21:53.780 uh

00:21:54.380 I mean

00:21:54.720 generally speaking

00:21:55.580 I think

00:21:56.120 the average person

00:21:57.620 votes

00:21:58.020 because they believe

00:22:00.200 rightly or wrongly

00:22:01.420 that a particular

00:22:02.780 political party

00:22:03.700 or a particular

00:22:04.260 political leader

00:22:05.100 is going to have

00:22:06.480 their interests

00:22:07.060 in mind

00:22:07.580 and I think

00:22:08.740 when you look at

00:22:09.300 the divergence

00:22:10.480 in voting habits

00:22:11.960 between

00:22:12.560 young men

00:22:13.720 and young women

00:22:14.200 in some of these studies

00:22:15.180 what I sort of

00:22:16.620 interpret that as

00:22:17.360 is evidence that

00:22:18.300 a lot of women

00:22:19.700 might feel like

00:22:20.480 the you know

00:22:21.360 right-wing political

00:22:22.280 parties are not

00:22:23.040 offering solutions

00:22:23.820 to things they care about

00:22:24.860 and a lot of young men

00:22:25.820 would feel the same way

00:22:26.800 about left-wing

00:22:27.760 political parties

00:22:28.600 I also think though

00:22:30.360 that like the real

00:22:31.020 core problem though

00:22:32.080 is a lack of confidence

00:22:34.220 in the solutions

00:22:35.180 being offered

00:22:35.880 so I don't think

00:22:37.240 a man

00:22:37.720 or woman

00:22:38.900 or any person

00:22:40.120 is going to say

00:22:41.760 I think you have

00:22:42.640 a solution to my problem

00:22:43.960 but I'm voting

00:22:44.520 for someone else anyway

00:22:45.740 I think they're not

00:22:46.740 sold on the solutions

00:22:48.020 being provided

00:22:49.080 and you know

00:22:50.680 in my job

00:22:51.280 I think that's

00:22:51.880 sort of our responsibilities

00:22:52.960 how do we figure out

00:22:53.880 how to convince people

00:22:54.780 that you know

00:22:56.060 conservative ideas

00:22:57.040 conservative policies

00:22:58.800 would actually lead

00:23:00.160 to a better quality

00:23:00.940 of life

00:23:01.340 for as many people

00:23:02.320 as possible

00:23:02.920 I think that's

00:23:03.920 how you win elections

00:23:04.640 and I think that's

00:23:05.500 also what our

00:23:06.340 what our task is

00:23:07.560 I think one of the

00:23:11.160 common themes

00:23:11.680 of what you talked

00:23:12.300 about is neglect

00:23:14.120 neglect and perhaps

00:23:17.640 even hostility

00:23:18.500 you talked about

00:23:19.540 the hierarchy

00:23:20.260 of victimhood

00:23:21.240 you know

00:23:23.280 without getting into it

00:23:24.240 it's almost

00:23:24.940 you know

00:23:25.260 there's a point card

00:23:26.600 you add up

00:23:27.060 and how many points

00:23:27.680 you have

00:23:28.160 it determines

00:23:29.760 how high on the

00:23:30.480 pyramid of victimhood

00:23:31.300 you are

00:23:31.740 and we as a society

00:23:33.780 a broad western

00:23:34.900 civilization have begun

00:23:35.920 have for some time

00:23:37.040 now fetishized

00:23:38.340 victimhood

00:23:39.180 that you want

00:23:40.740 to be a victim

00:23:41.660 and that seems

00:23:44.720 to be antithetical

00:23:45.640 I think to the

00:23:46.460 founding values

00:23:47.260 of western civilization

00:23:48.260 is even if you

00:23:49.400 are a victim

00:23:49.940 you fight

00:23:51.060 to not be a victim

00:23:52.700 the ultimate goal

00:23:53.540 is to be

00:23:54.480 to liberate oneself

00:23:55.820 to achieve

00:23:57.380 a personal freedom

00:23:58.460 freedom for your

00:23:59.440 own society

00:24:00.100 but the fetishization

00:24:02.800 of victimhood

00:24:04.140 I think has led

00:24:04.760 to these destructive

00:24:06.260 outcomes

00:24:06.740 and I think

00:24:08.600 for young men

00:24:10.240 in particular

00:24:10.820 you know

00:24:11.960 they sit through

00:24:12.960 high school

00:24:13.940 or geez

00:24:15.180 it begins even

00:24:15.960 in elementary school

00:24:16.700 I think

00:24:16.980 but then you know

00:24:17.500 you get to universities

00:24:18.480 and they're just

00:24:19.780 constantly bombarded

00:24:20.940 with

00:24:21.320 here are the victims

00:24:23.060 and therefore

00:24:23.500 the good groups

00:24:24.280 and here are

00:24:25.020 the oppressors

00:24:26.380 therefore

00:24:26.980 the bad groups

00:24:27.940 and if you are

00:24:29.320 constantly told

00:24:31.080 and reinforced

00:24:32.920 that you are

00:24:34.480 the oppressor

00:24:35.720 I mean

00:24:37.000 that can't help

00:24:37.660 but color things

00:24:39.380 how do you think

00:24:43.720 that is driving

00:24:44.760 the psyche

00:24:45.640 of young men

00:24:46.760 in our society

00:24:47.520 right now

00:24:48.120 who have been told

00:24:49.240 constantly

00:24:49.780 that you're an oppressor

00:24:51.080 and you're victimizing

00:24:52.700 some other group

00:24:53.620 yet they look at

00:24:54.820 their own circumstances

00:24:56.780 they're unemployed

00:24:57.600 or they're underemployed

00:24:58.840 they're living at home

00:25:00.020 they have no prospect

00:25:01.020 of home ownership

00:25:01.860 you know

00:25:04.440 the dating world

00:25:05.120 is changing

00:25:06.280 in strange ways

00:25:07.360 that are not good

00:25:08.540 for most men

00:25:09.280 you know

00:25:11.540 that's

00:25:11.860 how is that

00:25:13.100 creating

00:25:13.680 how is that disconnect

00:25:15.280 I think

00:25:15.860 going to manifest itself

00:25:17.600 over the next decade

00:25:19.080 yeah

00:25:19.820 well I think

00:25:20.800 this is something

00:25:21.360 that everybody

00:25:21.940 can relate to

00:25:22.800 which is imagine

00:25:23.820 you know

00:25:24.220 you have a problem

00:25:25.040 and you go to someone

00:25:26.280 to try to explain it

00:25:27.520 and they tell you

00:25:28.620 well because of what

00:25:29.300 you look like

00:25:29.940 or where your parents

00:25:30.660 come from

00:25:31.200 your problem

00:25:31.740 isn't actually

00:25:32.480 a real problem

00:25:33.920 right

00:25:34.520 like you're calling

00:25:35.840 an airline company

00:25:36.860 to say that

00:25:37.580 you canceled my flight

00:25:39.000 and I need it

00:25:39.580 to be rescheduled

00:25:40.680 and they tell you

00:25:41.840 what color are you

00:25:43.100 and if you're not

00:25:44.580 the right color

00:25:45.140 then actually

00:25:45.860 you don't need

00:25:47.060 a new flight

00:25:47.620 right

00:25:48.000 I mean

00:25:48.220 it's a very personal

00:25:49.760 thing that everyone

00:25:51.100 can relate to

00:25:51.860 the idea that

00:25:52.940 you are somehow

00:25:53.860 being

00:25:54.220 your perspective

00:25:55.300 your concerns

00:25:56.100 are being

00:25:56.660 watered down

00:25:57.680 and undermined

00:25:58.580 by virtue of things

00:25:59.920 that have nothing

00:26:00.400 to do with

00:26:01.460 decisions you've made

00:26:02.640 or things that you've done

00:26:03.940 as a human being

00:26:04.760 and I think that's how

00:26:06.180 a lot of young men

00:26:07.280 in particular feel

00:26:08.900 which is that

00:26:09.780 they are going through

00:26:11.260 a series of challenges

00:26:12.920 in our economy

00:26:13.820 in our culture

00:26:14.560 and feeling that

00:26:16.380 by raising those concerns

00:26:17.700 they are actually being

00:26:18.900 further marginalized

00:26:20.420 and dismissed

00:26:21.560 because by virtue

00:26:23.120 of even speaking about it

00:26:24.280 they are now somehow

00:26:25.080 committing a new offense

00:26:26.660 right

00:26:27.000 so I think that

00:26:28.980 it puts a lot of people

00:26:30.260 in a very

00:26:31.060 unsustainable position

00:26:33.580 culturally

00:26:35.460 and in response

00:26:37.580 you're going to see

00:26:38.400 people get frustrated

00:26:39.580 and look for alternatives

00:26:40.660 the pull that

00:26:42.900 you know

00:26:43.420 conservatives have had

00:26:44.540 for young men

00:26:45.320 is in large part

00:26:46.720 I think because

00:26:47.400 we are offering

00:26:48.700 something different

00:26:49.580 the status quo

00:26:50.700 is not working

00:26:51.480 and there is

00:26:52.780 you know

00:26:53.220 in Canada

00:26:53.740 and a lot of

00:26:54.280 western democracies

00:26:55.220 there is very little

00:26:56.680 daylight between

00:26:57.700 a lot of the

00:26:58.340 political options

00:26:59.260 being provided

00:27:00.060 and so when you're

00:27:01.560 looking at

00:27:02.180 your you know

00:27:02.840 the series of

00:27:03.960 ideas being presented

00:27:05.360 to you to solve

00:27:06.180 your problems

00:27:06.840 whether

00:27:07.160 some of the things

00:27:07.920 I mentioned

00:27:08.440 you know

00:27:08.820 opioids

00:27:09.300 unemployment

00:27:09.960 education

00:27:10.800 all of these

00:27:12.600 different things

00:27:13.100 and everybody

00:27:13.560 sounds the same

00:27:14.440 your teachers

00:27:15.980 your professors

00:27:17.440 the stuff you've

00:27:19.040 been told to read

00:27:20.000 the mainstream media

00:27:20.900 everybody sounds

00:27:21.740 the exact same

00:27:22.560 you want to feel

00:27:23.780 like something new

00:27:24.480 is possible

00:27:25.080 and that is where

00:27:26.180 conservatives have

00:27:26.900 been able to offer

00:27:27.680 an alternative

00:27:28.180 to a lot of young

00:27:29.280 men who are

00:27:29.820 frustrated with

00:27:30.480 the status quo

00:27:31.220 and I think that's

00:27:32.300 a strength that we

00:27:33.120 have but we also

00:27:34.080 then have a

00:27:34.580 responsibility to

00:27:35.440 follow through on

00:27:36.180 that right

00:27:37.000 it cannot just be

00:27:37.760 a rhetorical

00:27:38.620 difference

00:27:39.640 it has to be

00:27:40.560 that we are

00:27:40.980 we are taking

00:27:41.680 the time

00:27:42.220 to put the effort

00:27:43.220 in to actually

00:27:44.220 solve your problems

00:27:45.140 and not take

00:27:46.100 for granted

00:27:46.700 the people

00:27:47.840 who are coming

00:27:48.820 to us

00:27:49.300 and asking us

00:27:50.100 to listen to them

00:27:50.880 and work with them

00:27:51.660 in favor of chasing

00:27:53.220 some mythical

00:27:54.540 you know

00:27:55.280 voter or stakeholder

00:27:56.460 or constituent

00:27:57.340 that might not even

00:27:58.660 be there in the

00:27:59.500 first place

00:28:00.060 so I think a lot

00:28:03.220 of this

00:28:03.500 there's a

00:28:04.800 incredible backlash

00:28:06.080 taking place

00:28:06.960 and it's not just

00:28:08.320 among young men

00:28:08.940 it's society at large

00:28:10.560 you know

00:28:12.060 we could see

00:28:12.880 on some social issues

00:28:15.980 where the progressivist

00:28:17.340 left overreached

00:28:18.900 itself

00:28:19.420 so far

00:28:20.600 and now there's

00:28:22.320 backlash

00:28:22.800 you think of

00:28:24.320 you know

00:28:25.340 transgender ideology

00:28:26.500 five years ago

00:28:29.480 if you said

00:28:30.980 anything

00:28:32.160 at all

00:28:33.200 you'd be pilloried

00:28:34.100 as a

00:28:34.980 you know

00:28:35.420 an ism

00:28:35.980 or a phobe

00:28:36.800 of some kind

00:28:37.820 and now

00:28:39.800 the backlash

00:28:42.080 to that

00:28:42.700 you know

00:28:43.720 is driving

00:28:44.480 the political

00:28:44.920 right across

00:28:45.560 the western civilization

00:28:47.780 right now

00:28:48.240 but I think

00:28:48.840 it's particularly

00:28:49.440 strong

00:28:50.100 with young men

00:28:51.240 that overreach

00:28:54.800 is I think

00:28:55.780 developed

00:28:56.520 has developed

00:28:57.400 into a sense

00:28:57.980 of rage

00:28:58.860 of

00:29:00.100 a need

00:29:04.520 to settle

00:29:05.680 the score

00:29:06.260 almost

00:29:07.080 and this can go

00:29:08.460 in a few

00:29:10.200 different directions

00:29:11.120 potentially

00:29:11.560 it can go

00:29:11.940 in the direction

00:29:12.480 of nihilism

00:29:13.540 a loss of sense

00:29:15.060 of agency

00:29:15.660 that you can't

00:29:16.560 do anything

00:29:17.140 about it

00:29:17.640 and I'm therefore

00:29:18.860 as you said

00:29:19.440 going to just

00:29:19.980 check out

00:29:20.560 they're not

00:29:21.140 going to work

00:29:21.620 they're going to

00:29:24.240 watch porn

00:29:24.600 instead of

00:29:24.840 have a family

00:29:25.340 they're going to

00:29:25.700 live with their

00:29:26.380 parents forever

00:29:26.960 instead of

00:29:27.320 have a home

00:29:27.900 you know

00:29:29.980 they'll collect

00:29:30.320 welfare

00:29:30.660 rather than

00:29:31.160 work

00:29:31.520 it could take

00:29:32.400 the direction

00:29:34.000 of nihilism

00:29:34.820 and accepting

00:29:36.160 a loss of sense

00:29:37.020 of personal

00:29:37.660 individual agency

00:29:38.660 it could manifest

00:29:41.140 itself in a

00:29:41.860 fairly mainstream

00:29:43.240 conservative

00:29:44.400 direction

00:29:45.200 where they

00:29:47.060 you know

00:29:47.460 they vote for

00:29:47.940 parties that

00:29:48.660 might move

00:29:49.640 things in their

00:29:50.100 direction

00:29:50.540 but I think

00:29:52.160 it also has

00:29:52.520 a potential

00:29:52.920 to go in a

00:29:53.460 more radical

00:29:54.000 direction

00:29:55.000 that we're

00:29:55.740 seeing

00:29:56.020 and a lot

00:29:56.620 of that's

00:29:57.360 maybe driven

00:29:57.840 by some

00:29:58.180 of the

00:29:58.320 new

00:29:58.500 online

00:29:58.900 right

00:29:59.280 which direction

00:30:01.960 broadly speaking

00:30:02.980 for some people

00:30:03.960 there's all

00:30:04.340 three paths

00:30:05.040 maybe some

00:30:05.780 others

00:30:05.960 I'm not

00:30:06.240 including

00:30:06.560 where do you

00:30:07.860 think it's

00:30:08.200 likely to go

00:30:09.180 out of those

00:30:09.580 three broad

00:30:10.100 paths

00:30:10.560 I could

00:30:12.480 take a guess

00:30:13.180 at which I

00:30:13.520 think you

00:30:13.840 would hope

00:30:14.480 it goes

00:30:15.080 down

00:30:15.400 but

00:30:16.080 how

00:30:18.080 is it

00:30:19.460 that you

00:30:20.100 would want

00:30:20.640 to see

00:30:21.000 say the

00:30:21.340 conservative

00:30:21.620 party of

00:30:22.080 Canada

00:30:22.360 the conservative

00:30:22.820 movement

00:30:23.160 more broadly

00:30:23.980 try to drive

00:30:25.060 them down

00:30:25.380 the mainstream

00:30:25.840 conservative

00:30:26.420 political path

00:30:27.240 rather than

00:30:27.800 checking out

00:30:28.940 in the direction

00:30:30.180 of nihilism

00:30:30.780 or radicalizing

00:30:32.400 in the other

00:30:33.540 direction

00:30:33.960 yeah it's a great

00:30:35.900 question

00:30:36.340 so you know

00:30:37.440 I think any of us

00:30:38.320 here who are

00:30:39.040 familiar with

00:30:39.840 you know

00:30:40.360 kind of the

00:30:41.040 evolution of

00:30:41.800 conservative politics

00:30:42.920 over a prolonged

00:30:44.160 period of time

00:30:44.920 you know

00:30:45.660 we have typically

00:30:46.440 taken the position

00:30:47.960 of emphasizing

00:30:49.260 personal responsibility

00:30:50.700 personal autonomy

00:30:52.180 work hard

00:30:53.360 make good choices

00:30:54.320 you will get

00:30:55.300 ahead

00:30:55.620 and as

00:30:56.980 the economy

00:30:57.960 has gotten

00:30:58.560 tougher for people

00:30:59.600 as social mobility

00:31:00.860 has become

00:31:01.460 more and more

00:31:01.940 difficult

00:31:02.360 as the cost

00:31:03.480 of a house

00:31:04.060 has become

00:31:04.640 more unreachable

00:31:05.600 for people

00:31:06.160 the sort of

00:31:07.880 traditional message

00:31:08.820 of well

00:31:09.300 just work hard

00:31:10.080 and it's kind

00:31:10.880 of on your

00:31:11.440 shoulders

00:31:11.800 you figure it

00:31:12.540 out

00:31:12.840 it's frankly

00:31:14.200 just tougher

00:31:14.800 to deliver

00:31:15.900 in part

00:31:16.340 because it's

00:31:16.840 less reflective

00:31:17.920 of the reality

00:31:18.680 that a lot

00:31:19.480 of young Canadians

00:31:20.200 are growing up in

00:31:21.080 and I think

00:31:22.820 in an ideal world

00:31:23.860 that is the balance

00:31:25.020 we want to get back

00:31:25.920 to

00:31:26.160 where the economy

00:31:27.660 works well enough

00:31:28.580 where society

00:31:29.280 works well enough

00:31:30.060 where institutions

00:31:30.860 work well enough

00:31:31.700 where we have

00:31:32.680 the confidence

00:31:33.260 that we can say

00:31:34.280 if you work hard

00:31:35.520 and make good choices

00:31:36.340 you will get ahead

00:31:37.360 that is what

00:31:38.660 an ideal society

00:31:39.660 looks like

00:31:40.180 in my view

00:31:40.700 and that is the position

00:31:41.900 that you know

00:31:42.560 conservative politics

00:31:43.460 has been in

00:31:44.180 for most of my lifetime

00:31:45.600 the challenge right now

00:31:47.100 is that we have now

00:31:48.040 environmental and

00:31:48.920 structural issues

00:31:49.480 that have sort of

00:31:50.920 piled up

00:31:51.580 and do require

00:31:52.560 some fixing

00:31:53.400 before I think

00:31:54.520 we can say

00:31:55.040 with confidence

00:31:55.660 to a young person

00:31:57.080 you're in a country

00:31:58.200 where working hard

00:31:59.260 is going to be enough

00:32:00.100 to get you a good

00:32:00.960 quality of life

00:32:01.820 that is just not

00:32:02.720 true right now

00:32:03.520 and we need to

00:32:04.020 make that true again

00:32:04.940 until that is true

00:32:06.600 again

00:32:06.980 I do think

00:32:08.720 we have to be

00:32:09.240 concerned about

00:32:09.800 some of the things

00:32:10.340 you mentioned

00:32:10.760 as far as

00:32:11.540 you know

00:32:12.160 people giving up

00:32:13.200 but equally

00:32:14.400 we also have to be

00:32:15.120 concerned with people

00:32:15.840 becoming overly

00:32:16.740 consumed with resentment

00:32:18.060 this is a very

00:32:19.440 toxic

00:32:20.060 response

00:32:21.560 that lots of people

00:32:22.920 can have

00:32:23.600 to feeling that

00:32:25.660 life is unfair

00:32:26.740 the opportunities

00:32:27.700 aren't available

00:32:28.540 they're not able

00:32:29.200 to get ahead

00:32:29.960 they feel like

00:32:30.940 they're being held back

00:32:31.900 and when resentment

00:32:34.000 breeds in that kind

00:32:35.120 of environment

00:32:35.660 that is where you do

00:32:36.620 see things like

00:32:37.560 you know

00:32:38.280 extremism

00:32:39.500 racism

00:32:40.120 people starting to

00:32:41.700 feel that

00:32:43.480 they are

00:32:44.820 it is warranted

00:32:45.720 to blame groups

00:32:46.520 of people

00:32:46.960 instead of individuals

00:32:47.920 or you know

00:32:49.260 and the new right

00:32:50.700 as you sort of

00:32:52.080 described it online

00:32:53.220 I mean you will see

00:32:54.160 lots of that out there

00:32:55.480 right

00:32:55.800 people who are trying

00:32:57.420 to teach our young men

00:32:58.500 to be resentful

00:32:59.480 to engage in tribal

00:33:01.140 politics

00:33:01.640 to be hateful

00:33:02.980 as a way to feel like

00:33:04.420 they can respond

00:33:05.200 to their circumstances

00:33:06.420 and you know

00:33:08.120 we have to be able

00:33:09.400 to show that

00:33:09.960 there is a constructive

00:33:10.940 way to be

00:33:11.940 unhappy and frustrated

00:33:13.860 but that things can

00:33:15.340 get better

00:33:15.840 and I think that's

00:33:17.940 that's the task

00:33:18.700 in front of us

00:33:19.340 I don't say this

00:33:20.180 as if it is easy

00:33:21.200 I certainly don't say

00:33:22.340 this as if

00:33:22.900 I have that all

00:33:24.140 figured out

00:33:24.720 and I can just sort

00:33:25.540 of lay out for you

00:33:26.900 a plan for how

00:33:27.840 to deal with it

00:33:28.580 but I think that is

00:33:29.800 ultimately what we're

00:33:30.560 trying to solve for

00:33:31.400 right now

00:33:31.940 and if we can keep

00:33:33.460 young people feeling

00:33:34.400 that there is hope

00:33:36.360 that to be involved

00:33:37.460 to feel like

00:33:38.680 there is some

00:33:39.300 relationship

00:33:39.860 between the effort

00:33:40.620 they put in

00:33:41.320 and outcomes

00:33:43.360 getting better

00:33:44.100 then I think

00:33:45.120 we can steer them

00:33:45.900 away from some

00:33:46.580 of the more

00:33:46.940 destructive ways

00:33:47.800 of reacting

00:33:48.500 to their circumstances

00:33:49.500 I'm not going

00:33:53.760 to be an optimist

00:33:54.500 on this one

00:33:55.120 I think there's

00:33:59.440 going to be

00:34:00.440 you know people

00:34:01.320 are going to go

00:34:01.620 in those three streams

00:34:02.420 nihilism checking out

00:34:03.760 some going

00:34:05.000 in the mainstream

00:34:05.400 direction

00:34:06.020 hoping for change

00:34:07.260 and then others

00:34:07.960 radicalizing

00:34:09.080 I think there's

00:34:11.020 going to be

00:34:11.560 more of the first

00:34:13.560 and last option

00:34:14.960 than we would expect

00:34:16.780 because I think

00:34:18.900 a lot of us

00:34:19.440 think things

00:34:20.200 are too far gone

00:34:21.980 to actually be fixed

00:34:23.320 we have had a decade

00:34:28.400 of totally open borders

00:34:30.200 and even before that

00:34:31.540 on the conservative

00:34:32.340 immigration policy

00:34:33.820 it was relatively

00:34:36.180 a relatively open

00:34:38.180 borders policy

00:34:39.060 but it

00:34:39.800 it was better

00:34:41.240 it was justifiable

00:34:42.120 you could at least

00:34:44.140 make a case

00:34:44.780 for it

00:34:45.520 you know

00:34:47.680 all right

00:34:50.520 our debt

00:34:54.560 especially cumulative

00:34:56.080 federal provincial

00:34:57.020 municipal debt

00:34:57.680 our national debt

00:34:58.420 is never

00:35:00.880 there's no prospect

00:35:01.960 of ever

00:35:02.480 paying it back

00:35:03.660 except Alberta

00:35:05.380 because we're Alberta

00:35:05.980 but

00:35:06.640 we

00:35:08.880 you know

00:35:09.340 our

00:35:09.700 per capita GDP

00:35:11.140 is now

00:35:11.880 lower than

00:35:12.860 Italy

00:35:13.660 now

00:35:14.740 this might be

00:35:15.920 anti-Italianism

00:35:18.040 on my part

00:35:18.520 but I've always drawn

00:35:19.300 the line

00:35:19.960 between first

00:35:20.660 and second world

00:35:21.360 at

00:35:21.720 are you richer

00:35:22.680 or poorer

00:35:23.200 than Italy

00:35:23.640 if you were Italy

00:35:24.260 or poorer

00:35:24.740 you're first world

00:35:25.380 and if you're

00:35:26.460 one country

00:35:27.020 poorer than Italy

00:35:27.840 you're now

00:35:28.800 second world

00:35:29.740 Canada

00:35:30.460 by my old

00:35:31.560 definition

00:35:32.060 is technically

00:35:33.920 the richest

00:35:34.420 second world

00:35:35.220 country

00:35:35.620 in the world

00:35:36.640 sorry Italians

00:35:39.680 actually good on you

00:35:41.360 you're richer

00:35:42.080 than Canada

00:35:42.560 I'm not sure

00:35:42.960 if that's

00:35:43.240 because Italy

00:35:43.560 did anything right

00:35:44.180 or just because

00:35:44.680 Canada's done

00:35:45.200 everything wrong

00:35:45.900 at the same time

00:35:46.600 where's Tristan Hopper

00:35:47.360 I think he's got

00:35:47.960 something about that

00:35:48.720 you know

00:35:52.020 we've

00:35:52.620 we've seen

00:35:53.840 in a remarkably

00:35:54.540 short period of time

00:35:55.500 just what our

00:35:56.540 communities look like

00:35:57.880 change before

00:35:59.240 our eyes

00:36:00.460 I work in

00:36:01.500 the Western

00:36:02.440 Standards offices

00:36:03.060 are downtown

00:36:03.560 Calgary

00:36:04.040 there are

00:36:05.640 drug zombies

00:36:07.420 everywhere

00:36:08.320 broken

00:36:09.400 crushed

00:36:10.620 souls

00:36:11.820 the demographic

00:36:14.560 makeup

00:36:15.120 has changed

00:36:16.120 not slowly

00:36:17.480 and with

00:36:18.320 integration

00:36:18.960 and assimilation

00:36:19.860 but radically

00:36:21.280 right in front

00:36:22.580 of us

00:36:22.980 and so I

00:36:23.820 think there's

00:36:24.580 a sense

00:36:25.080 even among

00:36:25.700 if I can

00:36:26.800 include myself

00:36:27.460 in this group

00:36:27.900 more rational

00:36:28.660 and clear minded

00:36:30.060 of us

00:36:30.480 that things

00:36:31.300 are too

00:36:31.940 broken

00:36:32.240 it can't

00:36:33.320 be

00:36:33.900 fixed

00:36:34.880 anymore

00:36:35.360 that we're

00:36:36.320 really just

00:36:36.780 kind of

00:36:37.120 on borrowed

00:36:38.200 time

00:36:38.700 that this is

00:36:39.160 the sunset

00:36:39.720 of Western

00:36:40.320 not just

00:36:40.980 Canada

00:36:41.220 but of Western

00:36:42.380 civilization

00:36:42.900 that we're

00:36:43.220 in some

00:36:43.460 kind of

00:36:43.780 sunset

00:36:44.360 that you

00:36:46.520 know

00:36:46.620 the term

00:36:47.140 used in the

00:36:47.520 news business

00:36:48.140 is managed

00:36:49.200 decline

00:36:49.980 and that we're

00:36:50.940 just going to

00:36:51.380 enjoy it for

00:36:51.960 as long as

00:36:52.360 we can

00:36:52.720 and we'll

00:36:52.980 eventually

00:36:53.440 just kind

00:36:54.160 of disappear

00:36:54.660 that there's

00:36:55.240 no long

00:36:56.680 term

00:36:57.240 sense of

00:36:58.780 continuity

00:36:59.300 even for our

00:37:00.000 civilization

00:37:00.420 anymore

00:37:00.960 we're just

00:37:01.400 going to

00:37:01.600 enjoy the

00:37:02.180 ride

00:37:02.560 we're going to

00:37:03.860 ride on the

00:37:04.260 fumes

00:37:04.560 while it

00:37:04.900 lasts

00:37:05.360 yeah

00:37:07.600 so I'm

00:37:08.220 not an

00:37:08.500 optimist

00:37:08.940 so

00:37:11.020 I don't know

00:37:13.100 you're in

00:37:13.640 elected politics

00:37:14.260 you have to

00:37:14.760 believe

00:37:15.200 things

00:37:15.800 can maybe

00:37:16.780 be fixed

00:37:17.460 but

00:37:18.520 I don't

00:37:19.440 know

00:37:19.660 is there

00:37:22.100 much to

00:37:22.760 that

00:37:23.000 and if

00:37:23.520 so

00:37:23.760 I

00:37:23.960 you know

00:37:24.600 I think

00:37:25.820 that's going

00:37:26.120 to increase

00:37:26.620 the pull

00:37:27.120 of those

00:37:27.860 who want

00:37:28.060 to check

00:37:28.380 out on

00:37:28.660 one side

00:37:29.040 or those

00:37:29.280 who want

00:37:29.460 to radicalize

00:37:30.220 on the

00:37:30.440 other

00:37:30.640 William Buckley

00:37:33.340 used to tell

00:37:33.860 this joke

00:37:34.560 that

00:37:35.360 he felt

00:37:36.820 if he

00:37:37.540 picked

00:37:38.360 20 random

00:37:39.600 names

00:37:40.000 from the

00:37:40.440 phone book

00:37:40.960 he would

00:37:42.240 find 20

00:37:42.900 better people

00:37:43.520 suited to

00:37:44.000 run

00:37:44.280 his country

00:37:45.100 than

00:37:46.180 picking 20

00:37:47.600 names from

00:37:48.100 the Harvard

00:37:48.540 faculty

00:37:49.120 and

00:37:50.840 and

00:37:54.420 I am

00:37:55.060 inclined

00:37:55.560 to

00:37:56.020 kind of

00:37:57.580 look at

00:37:57.900 it

00:37:58.020 that way

00:37:58.760 and what

00:37:59.140 I mean

00:37:59.360 by that

00:37:59.700 is that

00:38:00.160 you know

00:38:00.900 in my

00:38:01.580 job

00:38:01.860 I

00:38:02.140 have the

00:38:03.300 privilege

00:38:03.780 of being

00:38:04.200 able to

00:38:04.640 talk to

00:38:05.140 a lot

00:38:05.440 of

00:38:05.600 Canadians

00:38:05.980 who

00:38:06.460 you just

00:38:07.420 most people

00:38:08.180 never get

00:38:08.640 the chance

00:38:09.060 to meet

00:38:09.420 right

00:38:09.740 they're

00:38:10.060 busy

00:38:10.420 you know

00:38:11.000 working

00:38:11.280 and then

00:38:11.640 they're

00:38:11.800 home

00:38:12.080 and they're

00:38:12.340 cooking

00:38:12.560 dinner

00:38:12.860 for their

00:38:13.260 family

00:38:13.640 and they're

00:38:14.240 taking

00:38:14.760 their

00:38:15.100 kid

00:38:15.520 to

00:38:15.720 soccer

00:38:16.060 practice

00:38:16.540 and

00:38:16.860 they don't

00:38:17.460 come to

00:38:18.100 you know

00:38:18.620 public

00:38:19.120 events

00:38:19.420 they're

00:38:19.640 not

00:38:19.860 on

00:38:20.140 social

00:38:20.620 media

00:38:21.000 journalists

00:38:21.880 don't

00:38:22.120 interview

00:38:22.440 them

00:38:22.800 they just

00:38:23.480 their perspective

00:38:24.340 would never

00:38:24.840 really be

00:38:25.260 accounted for

00:38:26.020 and it's

00:38:26.660 probably the

00:38:27.040 best part

00:38:27.480 of my

00:38:27.740 job

00:38:28.080 to be

00:38:28.380 honest

00:38:28.680 is that

00:38:29.040 I get

00:38:29.400 to hear

00:38:29.860 from those

00:38:30.840 Canadians

00:38:31.260 and I get

00:38:31.820 to knock

00:38:32.160 on their

00:38:32.460 door

00:38:32.720 and have

00:38:33.160 a conversation

00:38:33.860 and I

00:38:34.900 and I think

00:38:35.060 and I think

00:38:35.080 part of my

00:38:35.600 optimism

00:38:36.140 a lot

00:38:36.600 of it

00:38:36.840 comes from

00:38:37.540 those

00:38:38.000 interactions

00:38:38.580 which is

00:38:39.040 that I

00:38:39.300 do believe

00:38:39.960 that the

00:38:41.300 average

00:38:41.780 Canadian

00:38:42.220 is a

00:38:43.700 highly

00:38:43.940 capable

00:38:44.420 person

00:38:44.940 with a

00:38:46.660 good head

00:38:47.220 on their

00:38:47.520 shoulders

00:38:47.880 and I

00:38:48.940 think our

00:38:49.240 institutions

00:38:49.780 don't reflect

00:38:50.680 our people

00:38:51.480 so the

00:38:53.000 challenge I

00:38:53.720 feel every

00:38:54.300 day is how

00:38:54.880 do we get

00:38:55.360 that to

00:38:55.860 line up

00:38:56.340 better

00:38:56.660 right

00:38:57.260 how do we

00:38:57.700 get to feel

00:38:58.160 that like

00:38:58.520 the sensible

00:38:59.160 Canadian

00:38:59.720 is actually

00:39:01.140 the person

00:39:02.740 making decisions

00:39:03.500 that affect

00:39:04.120 large swaths

00:39:05.700 of our

00:39:06.080 population

00:39:07.520 from a

00:39:08.880 policy

00:39:09.180 perspective

00:39:09.700 and I

00:39:10.480 don't have

00:39:11.400 the kind

00:39:12.200 of magic

00:39:12.960 answer to

00:39:13.480 that

00:39:13.800 but I

00:39:14.440 do think

00:39:14.800 because I

00:39:15.280 think the

00:39:15.920 people are

00:39:16.380 there

00:39:16.800 it makes

00:39:18.320 me feel

00:39:18.680 a little

00:39:18.900 bit more

00:39:19.380 optimistic

00:39:20.000 that we

00:39:20.940 have more

00:39:21.200 of an

00:39:21.380 institutional

00:39:21.820 problem

00:39:22.320 than a

00:39:22.680 country

00:39:22.980 problem

00:39:23.440 it's not

00:39:24.280 our people

00:39:24.880 it's not

00:39:25.380 necessarily

00:39:25.860 even our

00:39:26.320 culture

00:39:26.720 it's the

00:39:27.720 institutions

00:39:28.280 that serve

00:39:28.860 us

00:39:29.080 that have

00:39:29.360 failed

00:39:29.680 and those

00:39:30.400 institutions

00:39:30.980 I think

00:39:32.060 can be

00:39:32.360 reformed

00:39:33.140 I'd be

00:39:36.160 inclined

00:39:37.520 more to

00:39:41.940 agree

00:39:42.320 if this

00:39:42.880 wasn't

00:39:43.180 an endemic

00:39:43.660 problem

00:39:43.980 right across

00:39:44.620 the western

00:39:45.080 world though

00:39:45.760 I mean

00:39:46.180 this is not

00:39:46.640 a uniquely

00:39:47.740 Canadian

00:39:48.220 problem

00:39:48.600 the Americans

00:39:49.140 have it

00:39:49.720 the Brits

00:39:50.860 the French

00:39:51.360 the Germans

00:39:51.940 it's pretty

00:39:54.120 broad

00:39:54.820 now a lot

00:39:55.660 of the

00:39:56.020 lot of

00:39:57.320 these

00:39:57.480 institutions

00:39:57.980 have the

00:39:58.740 same kind

00:39:59.240 ideological

00:39:59.660 capture

00:40:00.320 in them

00:40:00.640 they have

00:40:00.900 a lot

00:40:01.120 of the

00:40:01.300 same

00:40:01.460 problems

00:40:01.940 so

00:40:02.660 perhaps

00:40:03.380 so

00:40:04.200 but it

00:40:04.840 is not

00:40:05.160 a uniquely

00:40:05.660 Canadian

00:40:06.400 problem

00:40:07.040 we've even

00:40:07.600 got it here

00:40:08.140 in Alberta

00:40:08.560 to a large

00:40:09.080 extent

00:40:09.340 just maybe

00:40:09.780 less so

00:40:10.380 than other

00:40:10.680 parts of

00:40:11.080 Canada

00:40:11.360 but I guess

00:40:14.160 I come back

00:40:14.660 to it again

00:40:15.100 in the last

00:40:17.420 federal

00:40:17.740 election

00:40:18.140 I already

00:40:20.100 thought it

00:40:20.480 was probably

00:40:21.280 kind of

00:40:22.200 too late

00:40:23.220 to save

00:40:24.280 Canada

00:40:24.900 to save

00:40:25.660 our very

00:40:26.340 privileged

00:40:26.820 position

00:40:27.280 in the

00:40:27.560 world

00:40:27.900 as

00:40:29.040 a safe

00:40:31.440 stable

00:40:32.200 prosperous

00:40:33.140 liberal

00:40:33.440 democracy

00:40:34.060 best case

00:40:36.680 scenario

00:40:37.160 you get

00:40:39.100 to start

00:40:39.560 to work

00:40:39.920 in four

00:40:40.400 years

00:40:40.760 from now

00:40:41.380 best case

00:40:42.640 scenario

00:40:43.120 you know

00:40:44.280 if it's

00:40:46.880 not too

00:40:47.220 late

00:40:47.380 now

00:40:47.620 will it

00:40:48.000 not be

00:40:48.880 too late

00:40:49.340 four years

00:40:50.180 from now

00:40:50.620 to be able

00:40:51.380 to turn

00:40:51.660 this around

00:40:52.160 I know

00:40:53.940 I'm Mr.

00:40:54.400 Sunshine

00:40:54.720 this morning

00:40:55.240 yeah

00:40:56.180 well

00:40:57.060 I mean

00:40:57.840 I can

00:40:58.520 I can speak

00:40:59.060 for me

00:40:59.620 personally

00:41:00.080 on this

00:41:00.560 and this

00:41:00.800 is obviously

00:41:01.600 a complicated

00:41:02.820 thing

00:41:03.480 in terms

00:41:03.940 of how

00:41:04.340 do you

00:41:04.800 how do

00:41:05.440 you decide

00:41:06.340 to be

00:41:07.180 optimistic

00:41:07.640 about the

00:41:08.400 future

00:41:08.640 of our

00:41:08.920 country

00:41:09.360 everyone's

00:41:10.960 going to

00:41:11.160 kind of

00:41:11.440 have a

00:41:11.920 different

00:41:12.180 perspective

00:41:12.700 on that

00:41:13.240 you know

00:41:14.140 I believe

00:41:14.560 in God

00:41:15.100 and I'm

00:41:15.980 I'm a

00:41:16.360 Christian

00:41:16.760 and I

00:41:17.900 you know

00:41:19.660 my

00:41:19.840 yeah

00:41:21.080 my

00:41:21.780 faith

00:41:22.460 comes in

00:41:23.120 part from

00:41:23.900 you know

00:41:24.660 believing

00:41:25.180 that unlikely

00:41:26.300 things happen

00:41:27.220 that good

00:41:28.180 things happen

00:41:28.900 in spite

00:41:29.800 of tremendous

00:41:30.960 adversity

00:41:31.540 and that

00:41:33.580 it's always

00:41:33.980 worth trying

00:41:34.700 and so that

00:41:35.760 would be my

00:41:36.140 message to

00:41:36.780 someone who

00:41:37.260 maybe feels

00:41:37.840 the way you

00:41:38.160 do is like

00:41:38.700 I'm not

00:41:39.800 going to

00:41:40.220 fight with

00:41:41.020 you on this

00:41:41.600 but I am

00:41:42.040 going to say

00:41:42.380 I think

00:41:42.840 we need you

00:41:43.980 and we need

00:41:44.440 you to try

00:41:44.980 and I hope

00:41:45.660 you do

00:41:46.020 well since

00:41:47.080 I'm in the

00:41:47.420 media I'm

00:41:47.800 going to

00:41:47.960 take you

00:41:48.180 out of

00:41:48.360 context

00:41:48.900 I'll take

00:41:51.380 you out of

00:41:51.620 context and

00:41:52.360 say that

00:41:53.360 the only thing

00:41:53.740 that will

00:41:53.920 save Canada

00:41:54.340 is a

00:41:54.560 miracle

00:41:54.860 or maybe

00:41:59.100 that's a

00:41:59.420 fair headline

00:42:00.000 okay

00:42:02.780 I want to

00:42:03.500 continue to

00:42:07.000 move in the

00:42:07.340 direction of

00:42:08.100 where this is

00:42:09.640 going socially

00:42:10.240 and politically

00:42:10.960 with young

00:42:11.900 men

00:42:12.200 maybe focusing

00:42:13.500 on the

00:42:13.840 online

00:42:14.400 right

00:42:15.040 you know

00:42:18.000 where

00:42:18.280 you referenced

00:42:19.520 William F.

00:42:20.240 Buckley

00:42:20.540 you know

00:42:21.140 one of the

00:42:21.540 pillars

00:42:22.240 of the

00:42:22.840 modern

00:42:23.080 conservative

00:42:23.520 movement

00:42:24.120 you know

00:42:26.280 the weekly

00:42:26.820 standard

00:42:27.260 in its

00:42:27.660 day

00:42:28.000 was

00:42:28.800 largely

00:42:30.040 able

00:42:30.440 it played

00:42:31.000 such a

00:42:31.380 dominant

00:42:31.720 role

00:42:32.040 among

00:42:32.380 the

00:42:33.220 intelligentsia

00:42:34.440 of the

00:42:34.620 conservative

00:42:34.920 movement

00:42:35.300 that it

00:42:35.560 could

00:42:35.680 put

00:42:36.600 fences

00:42:37.740 around

00:42:38.120 and say

00:42:38.620 this is

00:42:39.720 acceptable

00:42:40.180 within the

00:42:40.680 broader

00:42:40.880 coalition

00:42:41.380 and outside

00:42:42.060 here be

00:42:42.420 dragons

00:42:42.820 I don't

00:42:44.600 think

00:42:44.960 any

00:42:46.360 there's any

00:42:47.500 institution

00:42:48.060 media or

00:42:48.680 otherwise

00:42:49.040 that is able

00:42:49.600 to do so

00:42:50.200 now in a

00:42:51.300 decentralized

00:42:51.880 media environment

00:42:52.960 where social

00:42:54.640 media platforms

00:42:55.440 have

00:42:55.900 I think

00:42:57.300 generally

00:42:57.640 for better

00:42:58.140 been

00:42:58.860 de-censored

00:43:00.000 and

00:43:00.740 are able

00:43:01.620 to speak

00:43:01.920 more freely

00:43:02.300 but that

00:43:02.920 means you're

00:43:03.380 going to see

00:43:03.980 more fringe

00:43:04.520 voices

00:43:04.920 come in

00:43:05.660 and the

00:43:06.360 fringe

00:43:07.140 is

00:43:07.640 I'm not

00:43:08.500 sure

00:43:08.680 we can

00:43:08.880 call it

00:43:09.200 that fringe

00:43:09.800 anymore

00:43:10.180 these ideas

00:43:11.460 are becoming

00:43:12.480 more mainstream

00:43:13.080 people might

00:43:14.200 not necessarily

00:43:14.880 agree with

00:43:16.020 actually even

00:43:16.780 what they're

00:43:17.060 listening to

00:43:17.480 but they

00:43:17.760 like the

00:43:18.320 edginess

00:43:18.760 of it

00:43:19.180 that like

00:43:19.700 it's the

00:43:20.380 forbidden

00:43:20.820 fruit

00:43:21.620 that they

00:43:22.760 get to

00:43:23.060 eat

00:43:23.320 you know

00:43:24.900 before we

00:43:25.500 came up

00:43:25.800 here

00:43:25.960 we talked

00:43:26.920 about

00:43:27.240 like Nick

00:43:27.920 Fuentes

00:43:28.220 I didn't

00:43:28.620 even know

00:43:28.900 about this

00:43:29.240 guy a

00:43:29.800 year ago

00:43:30.160 I never

00:43:31.040 even heard

00:43:31.380 of him

00:43:31.620 now you

00:43:32.540 scroll for

00:43:34.340 five minutes

00:43:34.900 it's going

00:43:35.320 to come

00:43:35.540 up

00:43:35.760 it's some

00:43:36.920 crazy

00:43:37.360 shit

00:43:37.700 but I

00:43:38.960 think a

00:43:39.200 lot of

00:43:39.440 people

00:43:39.800 they might

00:43:40.600 not even

00:43:40.840 agree with

00:43:41.100 anything

00:43:41.360 he's

00:43:41.640 saying

00:43:41.900 but

00:43:43.080 guys like

00:43:44.580 him

00:43:44.820 are

00:43:45.080 breaking

00:43:45.840 taboos

00:43:46.960 that

00:43:47.780 an entire

00:43:48.800 generation

00:43:49.300 was brought

00:43:49.660 up saying

00:43:49.940 you can't

00:43:50.800 say this

00:43:51.400 you can't

00:43:51.840 even think

00:43:52.480 it

00:43:52.760 in any

00:43:53.800 way

00:43:54.020 for very

00:43:54.580 mainstream

00:43:55.220 things

00:43:56.000 like

00:43:56.360 you know

00:43:58.380 just

00:43:59.800 basic

00:44:00.400 liberal

00:44:01.780 democratic

00:44:02.740 principles

00:44:03.260 that were

00:44:04.200 considered

00:44:04.560 now

00:44:04.760 taboos

00:44:05.180 we call

00:44:05.500 you a

00:44:05.760 phobe of

00:44:06.160 this

00:44:06.420 or an

00:44:06.740 ist

00:44:07.040 or

00:44:07.500 ism

00:44:07.840 of

00:44:08.000 that

00:44:08.420 and so

00:44:10.080 there's

00:44:10.300 a taboo

00:44:11.160 breaking

00:44:11.920 in this

00:44:12.300 that I

00:44:12.600 think

00:44:12.780 is

00:44:12.980 alluring

00:44:13.460 to a

00:44:13.760 lot

00:44:13.860 of

00:44:13.980 people

00:44:14.300 and it

00:44:16.200 could go

00:44:16.540 one of

00:44:17.560 several

00:44:17.820 ways

00:44:18.180 but

00:44:18.460 where do

00:44:20.000 you think

00:44:20.400 this is

00:44:20.700 going

00:44:20.920 with the

00:44:21.340 influence

00:44:21.920 of the

00:44:22.260 new

00:44:22.600 really

00:44:23.980 really

00:44:24.500 hard

00:44:24.920 or

00:44:25.220 extreme

00:44:25.780 right

00:44:26.360 and its

00:44:26.940 influence

00:44:27.280 on young

00:44:27.640 men

00:44:27.880 yeah

00:44:29.240 okay

00:44:30.920 so

00:44:31.320 some

00:44:31.820 of you

00:44:32.260 might

00:44:32.880 remember

00:44:33.420 sort

00:44:33.820 of the

00:44:34.200 political

00:44:34.760 dynamics

00:44:35.480 around

00:44:35.860 race

00:44:36.420 in the

00:44:37.260 late

00:44:37.880 80s

00:44:38.360 early

00:44:38.600 90s

00:44:39.340 where

00:44:40.920 you had

00:44:41.480 figures

00:44:41.900 like

00:44:42.240 Louis

00:44:42.540 Farrakhan

00:44:43.260 for example

00:44:43.980 emerge

00:44:44.760 and gain

00:44:46.080 significant

00:44:46.720 followings

00:44:47.580 by

00:44:48.320 saying

00:44:49.200 to

00:44:49.660 mostly

00:44:50.440 black

00:44:50.860 men

00:44:51.280 who

00:44:51.920 were

00:44:52.440 frustrated

00:44:53.840 with their

00:44:54.300 circumstances

00:44:54.980 couldn't get

00:44:55.720 ahead

00:44:56.120 dealing

00:44:56.520 with

00:44:56.940 a whole

00:44:57.540 host

00:44:57.860 of

00:44:58.200 problems

00:44:59.100 in their

00:44:59.480 communities

00:44:59.960 that they

00:45:00.960 needed to

00:45:01.380 blame

00:45:01.640 white

00:45:01.940 people

00:45:02.360 for

00:45:03.260 their

00:45:04.040 misfortunes

00:45:04.920 what

00:45:06.380 we're

00:45:06.560 seeing

00:45:07.020 now

00:45:07.540 is

00:45:08.080 that

00:45:08.380 same

00:45:08.780 strategy

00:45:09.440 be

00:45:10.400 employed

00:45:10.940 to

00:45:11.220 appeal

00:45:11.620 to

00:45:12.080 disenfranchised

00:45:13.120 young

00:45:13.420 white

00:45:13.660 men

00:45:13.940 and

00:45:15.240 instead

00:45:15.580 of

00:45:16.100 Farrakhan

00:45:16.900 telling

00:45:17.220 a

00:45:17.380 black

00:45:17.620 man

00:45:17.880 to

00:45:18.080 blame

00:45:18.320 white

00:45:18.560 people

00:45:18.900 it's

00:45:19.160 now

00:45:19.520 someone

00:45:21.320 like

00:45:21.560 Nick

00:45:21.760 Fuentes

00:45:22.080 telling

00:45:22.580 young

00:45:22.880 white

00:45:23.120 men

00:45:23.380 on

00:45:23.700 rumble

00:45:24.320 to

00:45:24.880 blame

00:45:25.280 the

00:45:25.820 Jewish

00:45:26.040 community

00:45:26.520 right

00:45:26.980 but the

00:45:28.100 playbook

00:45:28.520 is the

00:45:28.880 same

00:45:29.180 and I

00:45:29.980 think

00:45:30.180 that's

00:45:31.180 kind

00:45:31.600 of

00:45:31.800 the

00:45:32.000 story

00:45:32.380 of

00:45:32.580 extremism

00:45:33.300 is

00:45:33.820 people

00:45:34.660 encouraging

00:45:35.680 resentment

00:45:36.300 toward a

00:45:36.920 particular

00:45:37.300 group

00:45:37.860 to help

00:45:38.600 explain

00:45:39.180 why

00:45:39.540 your

00:45:39.760 life

00:45:40.080 is

00:45:40.280 the

00:45:40.420 way

00:45:40.560 that

00:45:40.760 it

00:45:40.880 is

00:45:41.080 when

00:45:41.280 you're

00:45:41.460 unhappy

00:45:41.920 Louis

00:45:44.040 Farrakhan

00:45:44.680 failed

00:45:45.160 you don't

00:45:46.420 really hear

00:45:46.800 about him

00:45:47.180 anymore

00:45:47.580 his

00:45:47.980 organization

00:45:48.600 doesn't

00:45:49.040 exist

00:45:49.540 the same

00:45:51.040 way

00:45:51.340 and partly

00:45:52.080 why

00:45:52.460 not the

00:45:52.860 only

00:45:53.080 reason

00:45:53.540 but partly

00:45:54.840 why he

00:45:55.280 failed

00:45:55.640 is that

00:45:56.700 black people

00:45:57.740 started doing

00:45:58.220 better in

00:45:58.680 society

00:45:59.160 there were more

00:46:00.460 opportunities

00:46:01.100 not only to

00:46:04.060 get an education

00:46:05.100 but also get a

00:46:05.900 job

00:46:06.300 there was

00:46:07.720 better

00:46:07.960 assimilation

00:46:08.660 integration

00:46:09.220 of different

00:46:09.740 cultures

00:46:10.180 we started

00:46:11.040 to move

00:46:11.420 in a

00:46:11.640 direction

00:46:12.020 where

00:46:12.460 race

00:46:13.180 no longer

00:46:13.800 was a

00:46:14.160 predictor

00:46:14.620 of your

00:46:15.000 social

00:46:15.360 outcomes

00:46:15.820 in the

00:46:16.280 same way

00:46:16.620 that it

00:46:16.880 was

00:46:17.200 in the

00:46:17.900 80s

00:46:18.260 and the

00:46:18.520 early

00:46:18.740 90s

00:46:19.180 when

00:46:19.340 Farrakhan

00:46:19.840 was at

00:46:20.200 his

00:46:20.500 peak

00:46:20.860 and I

00:46:22.240 think

00:46:22.420 that's

00:46:22.700 probably

00:46:23.120 how we

00:46:23.720 defeat

00:46:24.480 the likes

00:46:25.460 of Nick

00:46:25.820 Fuentes

00:46:26.160 also

00:46:26.840 is that

00:46:27.880 we actually

00:46:28.360 have to

00:46:29.120 stop

00:46:29.560 giving him

00:46:30.240 the same

00:46:31.600 type of

00:46:32.020 audience

00:46:32.520 by making

00:46:33.640 people feel

00:46:34.280 like there

00:46:34.660 is a way

00:46:35.020 to get

00:46:35.300 ahead

00:46:35.660 the problem

00:46:36.960 of social

00:46:37.540 mobility

00:46:38.040 is in

00:46:39.460 my view

00:46:39.880 like one

00:46:40.360 of the

00:46:40.760 biggest

00:46:41.300 things

00:46:41.720 that we

00:46:42.500 really

00:46:42.980 have to

00:46:43.400 wrap

00:46:43.620 our heads

00:46:44.020 around

00:46:44.400 which is

00:46:45.140 that the

00:46:45.440 integrity

00:46:45.880 of your

00:46:46.280 society

00:46:46.840 is in

00:46:47.700 many ways

00:46:48.180 based on

00:46:49.040 the idea

00:46:49.620 that there's

00:46:50.640 enough

00:46:51.020 of a

00:46:51.320 meritocracy

00:46:52.060 that people

00:46:53.160 born into

00:46:53.880 difficult

00:46:54.400 circumstances

00:46:55.120 can escape

00:46:55.940 those

00:46:56.240 circumstances

00:46:56.920 and people

00:46:58.780 are just

00:46:59.080 losing faith

00:46:59.620 in that

00:47:00.040 and when

00:47:00.360 they lose

00:47:00.700 faith in

00:47:01.100 that

00:47:01.340 there will

00:47:02.280 be

00:47:02.560 weirdos

00:47:03.480 on the

00:47:03.820 internet

00:47:04.140 who want

00:47:04.640 them to

00:47:04.940 hate

00:47:05.220 a certain

00:47:06.040 religious

00:47:06.380 group

00:47:06.780 or racial

00:47:07.200 group

00:47:07.680 as a way

00:47:08.800 to feel

00:47:09.300 like they're

00:47:09.640 doing

00:47:09.900 something

00:47:10.520 but it is

00:47:11.800 toxic

00:47:12.220 and it gets

00:47:12.820 you nowhere

00:47:13.260 and I think

00:47:14.160 that there's

00:47:14.540 a lot of

00:47:15.180 history we can

00:47:16.320 point to

00:47:16.800 of that

00:47:17.260 going badly

00:47:18.040 obviously

00:47:19.000 but there's

00:47:19.680 also history

00:47:20.100 we can point

00:47:20.560 to of that

00:47:20.920 being defeated

00:47:21.580 and I think

00:47:22.480 that's what

00:47:23.220 we should be

00:47:23.960 trying to do

00:47:24.520 one of

00:47:32.100 one of the

00:47:32.200 drivers

00:47:32.480 of political

00:47:33.000 change

00:47:33.340 is often

00:47:33.760 when a

00:47:34.900 feeling

00:47:35.180 of social

00:47:35.660 mobility

00:47:36.140 you know

00:47:36.840 when

00:47:37.060 the

00:47:37.900 American

00:47:38.300 dream

00:47:38.760 as it

00:47:39.120 were

00:47:39.360 feels out

00:47:40.120 of reach

00:47:40.420 for people

00:47:40.820 they can't

00:47:41.620 move up

00:47:42.080 that often

00:47:42.820 results in

00:47:43.440 fairly

00:47:43.800 significant

00:47:44.380 political

00:47:44.780 change

00:47:45.340 revolution

00:47:46.460 often

00:47:47.340 comes

00:47:48.040 when

00:47:49.300 people believe

00:47:50.260 that social

00:47:51.080 mobility

00:47:51.440 is potentially

00:47:52.100 downwards

00:47:52.860 that people

00:47:53.840 could fall

00:47:54.260 out of the

00:47:54.640 middle classes

00:47:55.240 into the

00:47:57.080 lower classes

00:47:57.880 or even

00:47:58.640 from upper

00:47:59.040 classes

00:47:59.360 into middle

00:47:59.840 classes

00:48:00.300 and I think

00:48:01.220 that is

00:48:02.140 something

00:48:03.380 that is

00:48:03.980 defining our

00:48:04.580 era right

00:48:05.060 now

00:48:05.380 is that

00:48:06.240 for the

00:48:06.820 first time

00:48:07.620 we have

00:48:07.960 a generation

00:48:08.620 that is

00:48:09.600 likely

00:48:10.140 to have

00:48:11.580 in the

00:48:12.000 aggregate

00:48:12.380 a lower

00:48:13.020 standard

00:48:13.420 of living

00:48:13.940 and lower

00:48:16.040 overall

00:48:17.000 happiness

00:48:18.240 in the

00:48:18.660 outcomes

00:48:19.000 of their

00:48:19.360 life

00:48:19.780 by the

00:48:20.160 key metrics

00:48:20.680 of having

00:48:21.460 a good

00:48:22.440 family

00:48:23.160 family

00:48:25.680 life

00:48:26.240 social

00:48:27.460 clubs

00:48:27.860 we have

00:48:28.100 no social

00:48:28.920 clubs

00:48:29.800 anymore

00:48:30.340 maybe

00:48:32.320 some

00:48:32.660 people

00:48:33.240 with

00:48:35.620 grayish

00:48:36.080 hair

00:48:36.260 and here

00:48:36.460 still play

00:48:36.840 bridge

00:48:37.260 with their

00:48:37.600 friends

00:48:38.000 but

00:48:39.100 we don't

00:48:39.760 have

00:48:39.920 social

00:48:40.280 clubs

00:48:40.720 in any

00:48:41.380 meaningful

00:48:41.760 sense

00:48:42.200 anymore

00:48:42.600 we don't

00:48:43.000 have

00:48:43.140 social

00:48:43.400 networks

00:48:44.080 at least

00:48:46.640 in person

00:48:47.400 we've

00:48:48.080 lost

00:48:48.340 sense

00:48:48.860 of

00:48:49.560 meaning

00:48:49.820 between

00:48:50.200 people

00:48:50.600 but

00:48:51.080 our

00:48:51.220 overall

00:48:51.520 standard

00:48:51.900 of

00:48:52.120 living

00:48:52.480 major

00:48:53.200 measurements

00:48:53.780 of

00:48:54.320 happiness

00:48:55.040 in life

00:48:55.560 for the

00:48:56.360 first

00:48:56.720 time

00:48:57.520 possibly

00:48:59.700 since the

00:49:00.140 industrial

00:49:00.580 revolution

00:49:01.240 are

00:49:02.280 likely

00:49:03.360 to be

00:49:04.100 lower

00:49:04.420 than that

00:49:04.840 of our

00:49:05.100 parents

00:49:05.660 and so

00:49:06.900 I think

00:49:07.140 there's

00:49:07.320 a real

00:49:07.940 fear

00:49:09.000 of

00:49:09.280 downward

00:49:09.880 social

00:49:10.760 mobility

00:49:11.120 and I

00:49:11.420 think

00:49:11.580 that

00:49:11.840 creates

00:49:12.860 potentially

00:49:13.280 revolutionary

00:49:14.120 circumstances

00:49:15.540 not just

00:49:16.080 in Canada

00:49:16.420 again

00:49:16.660 but across

00:49:17.500 the broader

00:49:18.020 west

00:49:18.780 and so

00:49:21.520 you said

00:49:22.220 the way

00:49:22.920 organizations

00:49:25.000 like the

00:49:26.220 guy you're

00:49:26.500 mentioning

00:49:26.820 with the

00:49:27.540 black power

00:49:27.920 movement

00:49:28.220 was marginalized

00:49:29.680 in the

00:49:30.580 late 80s

00:49:31.340 early 90s

00:49:32.020 was by

00:49:32.820 creating a

00:49:34.420 sense of

00:49:34.800 upward

00:49:35.140 social mobility

00:49:35.980 among black

00:49:36.660 Americans

00:49:37.220 I guess

00:49:39.220 the scary

00:49:40.700 question is

00:49:41.180 the flip

00:49:41.460 side

00:49:41.740 what if

00:49:43.360 we can't

00:49:44.540 reestablish

00:49:45.560 the sense

00:49:46.200 of upward

00:49:46.720 social mobility

00:49:47.600 among

00:49:48.340 young men

00:49:49.880 again

00:49:50.160 if they

00:49:51.420 see in

00:49:52.980 their real

00:49:53.360 life

00:49:53.580 circumstances

00:49:54.160 that the

00:49:55.320 social mobility

00:49:55.920 in our

00:49:56.280 society

00:49:56.620 is downward

00:49:57.280 yeah

00:49:58.780 I think

00:49:59.400 that you

00:49:59.760 nailed it

00:50:00.400 that is a

00:50:00.820 very important

00:50:01.440 question

00:50:01.860 and this

00:50:02.360 is one

00:50:02.740 of the

00:50:02.940 reasons

00:50:03.200 why

00:50:03.500 I am

00:50:04.680 grateful

00:50:05.120 that the

00:50:05.820 conversation

00:50:06.620 about

00:50:07.120 immigration

00:50:07.800 policy

00:50:08.740 has become

00:50:09.700 more

00:50:10.900 mainstream

00:50:11.460 now

00:50:12.140 than it

00:50:12.520 was

00:50:12.940 even

00:50:13.660 6 or

00:50:14.400 12 months

00:50:14.920 ago

00:50:15.220 and I

00:50:16.120 do hope

00:50:16.560 that it

00:50:16.880 continues

00:50:17.260 to move

00:50:17.800 in a

00:50:18.360 constructive

00:50:19.320 direction

00:50:19.960 because

00:50:20.820 this is

00:50:21.640 precisely

00:50:22.180 where

00:50:22.780 I think

00:50:23.780 these

00:50:23.980 questions

00:50:24.420 of what

00:50:24.820 the future

00:50:25.280 looks like

00:50:26.040 we are

00:50:27.940 affecting

00:50:28.420 this question

00:50:29.060 on a

00:50:29.320 regular

00:50:29.560 basis

00:50:30.000 if you

00:50:30.880 are in

00:50:31.120 an

00:50:31.280 environment

00:50:31.660 where

00:50:31.860 opportunity

00:50:32.380 is more

00:50:32.920 scarce

00:50:33.320 and yet

00:50:33.800 you're

00:50:33.980 bringing

00:50:34.240 in more

00:50:34.580 people

00:50:34.960 and you're

00:50:35.280 growing

00:50:35.580 your

00:50:35.780 population

00:50:36.380 it is

00:50:37.060 a recipe

00:50:37.580 for

00:50:38.540 downward

00:50:39.100 social

00:50:39.540 mobility

00:50:39.960 it's

00:50:40.240 inevitable

00:50:41.660 and

00:50:43.400 I

00:50:44.340 will

00:50:45.500 be

00:50:45.660 honest

00:50:45.880 with you

00:50:46.040 I am

00:50:46.420 very

00:50:46.700 frustrated

00:50:47.260 that it

00:50:47.680 has taken

00:50:48.080 this long

00:50:48.800 for

00:50:49.700 mainstream

00:50:51.300 political

00:50:51.880 discourse

00:50:52.360 to acknowledge

00:50:53.060 that we

00:50:53.760 are hurting

00:50:55.000 our country

00:50:55.760 with such

00:50:57.180 a high

00:50:57.520 volume

00:50:57.920 of people

00:50:58.300 coming in

00:50:58.900 it should

00:51:01.000 have been

00:51:01.280 a logical

00:51:01.940 easy

00:51:02.600 thing

00:51:03.080 to talk

00:51:03.980 about

00:51:04.300 and yet

00:51:05.380 in part

00:51:05.820 because of

00:51:06.380 the sort

00:51:07.060 of desire

00:51:07.780 to make

00:51:08.220 immigration

00:51:08.740 a question

00:51:09.420 of race

00:51:10.020 people

00:51:11.020 sort of

00:51:11.500 they were

00:51:11.740 so afraid

00:51:12.360 to engage

00:51:13.200 that it

00:51:14.100 got so

00:51:14.800 bad

00:51:15.360 to where

00:51:15.980 it is

00:51:16.240 now

00:51:16.580 before we

00:51:17.520 started to

00:51:17.980 have like

00:51:18.320 a serious

00:51:18.800 debate

00:51:19.160 about the

00:51:19.580 topic

00:51:19.980 and

00:51:20.940 but this

00:51:22.280 is why

00:51:22.700 it's

00:51:22.920 important

00:51:23.360 like

00:51:23.820 we

00:51:24.560 have to

00:51:25.420 think

00:51:25.640 about

00:51:26.020 opportunity

00:51:26.960 as a

00:51:27.620 scarce

00:51:28.040 resource

00:51:28.760 because

00:51:29.060 it is

00:51:29.400 one

00:51:29.720 and

00:51:30.400 that

00:51:30.540 every

00:51:30.760 decision

00:51:31.140 we

00:51:31.360 make

00:51:31.660 about

00:51:32.040 how

00:51:32.520 many

00:51:32.660 people

00:51:32.920 come

00:51:33.120 into

00:51:33.320 the

00:51:33.480 country

00:51:33.780 how

00:51:34.040 those

00:51:34.240 opportunities

00:51:34.740 are

00:51:34.960 distributed

00:51:35.460 what

00:51:36.080 social

00:51:36.440 programs

00:51:36.940 exist

00:51:37.400 to

00:51:37.800 incentivize

00:51:39.020 opportunities

00:51:40.040 being

00:51:40.260 distributed

00:51:40.680 in one

00:51:41.060 direction

00:51:41.420 or

00:51:41.620 another

00:51:41.940 like

00:51:42.460 all

00:51:42.720 of

00:51:42.860 these

00:51:43.060 things

00:51:43.360 are

00:51:43.660 how

00:51:44.140 you

00:51:44.460 shape

00:51:44.900 and

00:51:45.080 manufacture

00:51:45.700 the

00:51:47.640 quality

00:51:49.060 of life

00:51:49.560 for

00:51:49.760 people

00:51:50.140 and

00:51:50.980 we

00:51:51.200 have

00:51:51.360 been

00:51:51.840 frankly

00:51:52.600 collectively

00:51:53.360 in this

00:51:54.020 country

00:51:54.380 asleep

00:51:54.840 at the

00:51:55.140 wheel

00:51:55.420 for a

00:51:56.300 long

00:51:56.560 time

00:51:56.980 so

00:51:58.280 the

00:51:58.920 questions

00:51:59.580 about

00:51:59.860 downward

00:52:00.160 social

00:52:00.500 mobility

00:52:00.900 are

00:52:01.160 real

00:52:01.520 I

00:52:02.000 do

00:52:02.200 think

00:52:02.400 they

00:52:02.580 can

00:52:02.840 be

00:52:03.060 fixed

00:52:03.380 it's

00:52:03.580 a

00:52:03.680 question

00:52:03.980 whether

00:52:04.180 we

00:52:04.320 have

00:52:04.480 the

00:52:05.000 fortitude

00:52:06.400 to do

00:52:07.240 it

00:52:07.500 but

00:52:08.020 I

00:52:08.160 think

00:52:08.480 that

00:52:08.860 you

00:52:09.060 know

00:52:09.200 one

00:52:09.900 very

00:52:10.320 natural

00:52:10.660 place

00:52:10.960 to

00:52:11.100 start

00:52:11.340 on

00:52:11.520 that

00:52:11.720 would

00:52:11.880 be

00:52:12.180 massive

00:52:13.040 reduction

00:52:13.520 in

00:52:13.880 new

00:52:14.040 people

00:52:14.320 entering

00:52:14.640 the

00:52:14.820 country

00:52:15.180 all

00:52:22.180 right

00:52:22.320 let's

00:52:22.900 switch

00:52:23.080 gears

00:52:23.320 a

00:52:23.460 bit

00:52:23.640 I

00:52:25.400 think

00:52:25.720 to

00:52:26.220 a

00:52:26.600 lot

00:52:26.840 of

00:52:27.000 people

00:52:27.480 who

00:52:29.540 are

00:52:29.700 not

00:52:29.980 hardcore

00:52:30.540 political

00:52:31.080 watchers

00:52:31.620 you

00:52:31.860 were

00:52:32.080 introduced

00:52:32.460 to

00:52:32.780 the

00:52:32.940 country

00:52:33.340 on

00:52:34.140 election

00:52:34.500 night

00:52:34.840 you

00:52:35.780 know

00:52:35.880 where

00:52:35.980 I'm

00:52:36.100 going

00:52:36.300 I

00:52:39.520 had

00:52:39.880 some

00:52:41.100 of my

00:52:41.360 reporters

00:52:41.820 in the

00:52:42.400 back

00:52:42.720 there

00:52:43.060 I

00:52:43.360 got

00:52:43.480 one

00:52:43.620 from

00:52:43.780 Ontario

00:52:44.140 Jeremy

00:52:44.440 Borg

00:52:44.760 he

00:52:44.960 said

00:52:45.180 you

00:52:45.440 gotta

00:52:45.760 ask

00:52:46.260 Jamel

00:52:46.820 about

00:52:47.560 his

00:52:48.080 election

00:52:48.500 night

00:52:48.780 tear

00:52:49.040 down

00:52:49.320 Doug

00:52:49.620 Ford

00:52:49.900 so

00:52:51.540 I

00:52:51.580 want

00:52:51.680 to

00:52:51.760 ask

00:52:51.920 you

00:52:51.980 about

00:52:52.140 your

00:52:52.260 good

00:52:52.440 friend

00:52:52.660 Dougie

00:52:53.020 in

00:52:58.500 Ontario

00:52:58.920 conservative

00:52:59.640 audience

00:53:00.080 might be

00:53:00.440 a bit

00:53:00.720 more

00:53:00.960 split

00:53:01.420 on the

00:53:02.500 matter

00:53:02.740 maybe

00:53:03.960 there's

00:53:04.260 some

00:53:04.400 Doug

00:53:04.560 fans

00:53:04.860 in

00:53:05.000 here

00:53:05.220 no

00:53:06.840 I

00:53:07.160 think

00:53:09.540 it's

00:53:09.720 going

00:53:09.820 to be

00:53:09.980 less

00:53:10.260 so

00:53:10.640 poly

00:53:12.600 conservatism

00:53:13.980 has got

00:53:14.220 a bit

00:53:14.420 more

00:53:14.560 of a

00:53:14.720 home

00:53:14.880 field

00:53:15.080 advantage

00:53:15.540 here

00:53:15.860 in

00:53:16.520 Southern

00:53:17.280 Alberta

00:53:17.660 than

00:53:18.060 Doug

00:53:18.740 Ford

00:53:18.980 would

00:53:19.180 be

00:53:19.400 you

00:53:20.920 know

00:53:21.020 I'm

00:53:21.380 pretty

00:53:22.780 familiar

00:53:23.080 with

00:53:23.300 kind

00:53:23.460 of

00:53:23.540 the

00:53:23.820 weird

00:53:24.740 factionalism

00:53:26.980 of

00:53:27.120 Ontario

00:53:27.520 conservatism

00:53:28.040 we have

00:53:28.340 our own

00:53:28.720 factionalism

00:53:29.500 here

00:53:30.180 in

00:53:30.320 Alberta

00:53:30.640 but

00:53:31.980 in

00:53:32.260 Ontario

00:53:33.280 it

00:53:33.880 it's

00:53:34.720 mirroring

00:53:35.220 in many

00:53:35.820 ways

00:53:36.440 kind

00:53:37.040 of

00:53:37.440 the

00:53:37.960 split

00:53:38.420 that

00:53:39.160 eventually

00:53:40.340 emerged

00:53:40.780 between

00:53:41.060 the

00:53:41.200 Alberta

00:53:41.520 Progressive

00:53:42.020 Conservative

00:53:42.300 Party

00:53:42.560 and

00:53:42.680 the

00:53:42.760 Conservative

00:53:43.040 Party

00:53:43.340 of

00:53:43.460 Canada

00:53:43.780 where

00:53:44.720 the

00:53:45.460 Conservative

00:53:45.740 Party

00:53:45.960 of

00:53:46.060 Canada

00:53:46.180 was

00:53:46.340 actually

00:53:46.540 more

00:53:46.800 conservative

00:53:47.220 than

00:53:47.420 the

00:53:47.580 Alberta

00:53:48.000 Progressive

00:53:48.480 Conservative

00:53:48.800 Party

00:53:49.160 and

00:53:50.360 my

00:53:50.800 sincere

00:53:51.280 apologies

00:53:51.660 to the

00:53:51.980 good

00:53:52.140 ones

00:53:52.400 who

00:53:52.560 were

00:53:52.800 in

00:53:52.980 the

00:53:53.100 PC

00:53:53.340 Party

00:53:53.580 fighting

00:53:53.860 the

00:53:53.980 good

00:53:54.140 fight

00:53:54.360 at

00:53:54.480 that

00:53:54.640 time

00:53:54.940 but

00:53:55.540 you

00:53:55.720 know

00:53:55.780 you

00:53:55.920 had

00:53:56.200 Thomas

00:53:57.400 Lukaszik

00:53:58.060 and

00:53:58.240 Alison

00:53:58.600 Redford

00:53:59.040 fighting

00:53:59.380 against

00:53:59.700 Stephen

00:54:00.060 Harper

00:54:00.480 Kenny

00:54:01.320 and

00:54:01.520 these

00:54:01.700 guys

00:54:02.120 how

00:54:05.480 serious

00:54:06.500 does

00:54:09.200 that

00:54:09.440 split

00:54:10.340 between

00:54:10.660 say

00:54:10.880 the

00:54:11.020 Ford

00:54:11.580 PCs

00:54:12.520 and

00:54:13.520 the

00:54:13.680 Polly

00:54:13.940 of

00:54:14.300 Federal

00:54:15.160 Conservatives

00:54:15.720 does it

00:54:16.380 pose

00:54:16.960 any

00:54:17.420 major

00:54:18.220 threat

00:54:18.860 to

00:54:19.560 the

00:54:19.720 viability

00:54:20.180 of

00:54:20.460 the

00:54:20.680 Conservative

00:54:21.020 Party

00:54:21.440 particularly

00:54:22.100 in

00:54:22.300 Ontario

00:54:22.660 which

00:54:23.100 one

00:54:23.500 has

00:54:24.100 to

00:54:24.580 win

00:54:24.940 if

00:54:25.280 it's

00:54:25.440 to

00:54:25.540 have

00:54:25.700 any

00:54:25.920 chance

00:54:26.200 of

00:54:26.320 forming

00:54:26.640 a

00:54:27.080 majority

00:54:27.320 government

00:54:27.680 yeah

00:54:30.200 so

00:54:30.660 first

00:54:31.980 off

00:54:32.320 I

00:54:32.640 am

00:54:32.840 a

00:54:33.180 proud

00:54:34.040 Ontario

00:54:34.520 boy

00:54:34.920 so

00:54:35.440 I

00:54:37.020 feel

00:54:37.760 the

00:54:37.940 need

00:54:38.140 to

00:54:38.300 defend

00:54:38.640 my

00:54:38.900 province

00:54:39.320 a

00:54:39.500 little

00:54:39.620 bit

00:54:39.820 here

00:54:40.140 and

00:54:40.460 point

00:54:40.800 out

00:54:41.160 that

00:54:41.760 Pierre

00:54:42.140 Polly

00:54:42.480 have

00:54:42.640 got

00:54:42.820 one

00:54:43.100 million

00:54:43.420 more

00:54:43.720 votes

00:54:44.080 in

00:54:44.220 Ontario

00:54:44.660 than

00:54:44.920 Doug

00:54:45.200 Ford

00:54:45.480 did

00:54:45.840 from

00:54:47.420 yeah

00:54:47.780 so

00:54:48.440 we

00:54:50.080 wasn't

00:54:51.560 enough

00:54:52.460 for us

00:54:52.860 to win

00:54:53.200 as many

00:54:53.720 seats

00:54:54.100 as we

00:54:54.340 wanted

00:54:54.600 of course

00:54:55.080 but

00:54:55.460 people

00:54:56.880 did

00:54:57.080 show up

00:54:57.600 for

00:54:57.820 Pierre

00:54:58.100 in

00:54:58.300 Ontario

00:54:58.740 in

00:54:59.280 a

00:54:59.380 way

00:54:59.500 that

00:54:59.680 I

00:54:59.840 think

00:55:00.000 we

00:55:00.140 can

00:55:00.320 be

00:55:00.480 proud

00:55:00.720 of

00:55:01.040 and

00:55:02.000 yeah

00:55:03.760 it's

00:55:04.060 interesting

00:55:04.360 you point

00:55:04.720 this

00:55:04.900 out

00:55:05.020 so

00:55:05.200 I

00:55:05.520 don't

00:55:06.200 know

00:55:06.360 a ton

00:55:06.680 about

00:55:06.960 the

00:55:07.200 divide

00:55:07.620 you're

00:55:07.760 talking

00:55:07.920 about

00:55:08.060 between

00:55:08.320 the

00:55:08.580 Alberta

00:55:09.060 PCs

00:55:09.420 and

00:55:09.720 the

00:55:10.060 federal

00:55:10.320 party

00:55:10.660 at

00:55:10.840 that

00:55:10.980 time

00:55:11.320 but

00:55:12.840 I

00:55:13.140 would

00:55:13.360 say

00:55:13.700 this

00:55:14.300 is

00:55:14.440 less

00:55:14.740 of

00:55:14.880 an

00:55:15.020 ideological

00:55:15.680 problem

00:55:16.460 and

00:55:16.880 more

00:55:17.220 of

00:55:17.380 a

00:55:17.720 what

00:55:18.540 is

00:55:18.760 the

00:55:18.920 point

00:55:19.180 of

00:55:19.340 politics

00:55:19.960 problem

00:55:20.540 okay

00:55:21.120 so

00:55:21.320 let me

00:55:21.540 explain

00:55:21.760 what

00:55:21.920 I

00:55:22.040 mean

00:55:22.240 I

00:55:24.160 don't

00:55:24.560 think

00:55:25.060 Doug

00:55:25.780 Ford

00:55:26.320 or

00:55:26.780 the

00:55:27.100 people

00:55:27.400 in

00:55:27.580 his

00:55:27.920 administration

00:55:28.720 believe

00:55:30.600 they

00:55:30.920 have

00:55:31.140 an

00:55:31.300 ideology

00:55:31.960 I

00:55:32.820 don't

00:55:33.000 believe

00:55:33.320 they

00:55:33.760 have

00:55:34.560 come

00:55:35.080 to

00:55:35.340 a

00:55:35.660 rational

00:55:36.080 conclusion

00:55:36.800 that

00:55:37.500 there's

00:55:37.720 a

00:55:37.900 better

00:55:38.140 way

00:55:38.520 to

00:55:38.720 be

00:55:38.940 a

00:55:39.100 conservative

00:55:39.600 than

00:55:40.520 what

00:55:40.840 I

00:55:41.420 or

00:55:41.620 you

00:55:41.900 would

00:55:42.220 say

00:55:42.840 in

00:55:43.620 fact

00:55:43.880 I'm

00:55:44.120 not

00:55:44.300 even

00:55:44.580 sure

00:55:44.780 they

00:55:45.000 would

00:55:45.160 be

00:55:45.340 capable

00:55:45.680 of

00:55:45.940 having

00:55:46.260 a

00:55:46.740 conversation

00:55:47.360 about

00:55:48.360 conservative

00:55:49.460 ideas

00:55:50.100 or

00:55:50.280 principles

00:55:50.720 what

00:55:52.900 I

00:55:53.080 think

00:55:53.460 is

00:55:53.700 more

00:55:54.060 of

00:55:54.260 the

00:55:54.440 issue

00:55:54.880 is

00:55:55.840 there

00:55:56.080 are

00:55:56.220 people

00:55:56.560 who

00:55:56.760 think

00:55:56.960 the

00:55:57.160 goal

00:55:57.380 of

00:55:57.580 politics

00:55:57.980 is

00:55:58.400 to

00:55:58.760 have

00:55:59.780 power

00:56:00.340 and

00:56:00.780 maintain

00:56:01.320 power

00:56:01.820 for as

00:56:02.220 long

00:56:02.420 as

00:56:02.600 possible

00:56:03.120 at

00:56:03.700 whatever

00:56:04.060 cost

00:56:04.720 is

00:56:04.980 required

00:56:05.460 to

00:56:05.720 pay

00:56:06.040 and

00:56:07.260 there

00:56:07.440 are

00:56:07.580 people

00:56:07.900 who

00:56:08.100 want

00:56:08.480 to

00:56:08.740 do

00:56:08.960 politics

00:56:09.460 because

00:56:09.860 they

00:56:10.100 believe

00:56:10.480 in

00:56:10.700 certain

00:56:10.980 values

00:56:11.720 or

00:56:12.200 ideas

00:56:12.660 or

00:56:13.080 changes

00:56:13.620 that

00:56:14.420 they

00:56:14.540 would

00:56:14.680 like

00:56:14.860 to

00:56:15.020 create

00:56:15.480 and

00:56:16.660 to

00:56:16.860 me

00:56:17.100 that

00:56:17.400 is

00:56:17.560 the

00:56:17.740 difference

00:56:18.220 in

00:56:18.420 Ontario

00:56:18.980 between

00:56:20.100 a lot

00:56:21.240 of

00:56:21.400 the

00:56:21.760 people

00:56:22.480 who

00:56:22.900 are

00:56:24.000 candidates

00:56:26.040 and

00:56:26.920 myself

00:56:27.760 I

00:56:28.220 don't

00:56:28.360 want

00:56:28.480 to

00:56:28.540 speak

00:56:28.700 for

00:56:28.820 other

00:56:28.960 people

00:56:29.200 so

00:56:29.360 I'll

00:56:29.420 say

00:56:29.520 that's

00:56:29.700 different

00:56:29.840 between

00:56:30.020 me

00:56:30.340 and

00:56:31.360 the

00:56:31.520 difference

00:56:31.860 between

00:56:32.200 Doug

00:56:32.540 Ford

00:56:32.860 Ford

00:56:35.060 it's

00:56:35.300 weird

00:56:35.600 when

00:56:35.760 you

00:56:35.880 talk

00:56:36.160 to

00:56:36.320 someone

00:56:36.800 as

00:56:38.560 you

00:56:38.700 might

00:56:38.920 if

00:56:39.100 you

00:56:39.260 spend

00:56:39.560 time

00:56:39.840 with

00:56:40.000 people

00:56:40.380 in

00:56:41.280 the

00:56:42.380 current

00:56:42.680 incarnation

00:56:43.380 of

00:56:43.640 Ford

00:56:43.940 Nation

00:56:44.300 and

00:56:45.680 you

00:56:45.960 and

00:56:46.300 they

00:56:46.740 think

00:56:47.080 that

00:56:47.280 because

00:56:47.640 someone

00:56:48.120 put

00:56:48.660 a

00:56:48.800 good

00:56:48.980 poll

00:56:49.420 out

00:56:49.700 for

00:56:49.920 them

00:56:50.240 that

00:56:51.020 you're

00:56:51.260 supposed

00:56:51.500 to

00:56:51.820 be

00:56:52.160 happy

00:56:52.680 like

00:56:53.840 oh

00:56:54.180 you

00:56:54.960 got

00:56:55.100 a

00:56:55.240 good

00:56:55.400 poll

00:56:55.860 I

00:56:56.660 guess

00:56:56.860 that's

00:56:57.280 good

00:56:57.720 and

00:56:59.760 not

00:57:00.400 to

00:57:00.580 diminish

00:57:00.920 the

00:57:01.160 fact

00:57:01.340 that's

00:57:01.640 a

00:57:01.740 reality

00:57:02.120 of

00:57:02.300 our

00:57:02.420 business

00:57:02.760 like

00:57:03.000 we

00:57:03.140 need

00:57:03.480 to

00:57:03.640 get

00:57:03.820 public

00:57:04.140 support

00:57:04.640 but

00:57:05.760 if

00:57:06.200 you're

00:57:06.560 popular

00:57:07.560 but

00:57:07.920 you're

00:57:08.120 not

00:57:08.460 doing

00:57:08.780 good

00:57:09.060 things

00:57:09.480 why

00:57:09.900 am

00:57:10.060 I

00:57:10.240 supposed

00:57:10.480 to

00:57:10.740 be

00:57:10.900 happy

00:57:11.200 about

00:57:11.480 that

00:57:11.820 and

00:57:13.180 to

00:57:13.300 be

00:57:13.440 perfectly

00:57:13.800 honest

00:57:14.260 I

00:57:15.040 also

00:57:15.440 question

00:57:16.120 you

00:57:18.100 know

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00:57:20.340 the

00:57:21.060 negative

00:57:22.000 effect

00:57:22.480 of

00:57:22.640 that

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00:57:23.120 producing

00:57:23.880 more

00:57:24.180 cynicism

00:57:24.760 among

00:57:25.100 our

00:57:25.300 people

00:57:25.700 right

00:57:26.540 if

00:57:26.960 people

00:57:27.200 think

00:57:27.520 politicians

00:57:28.040 don't

00:57:28.400 believe

00:57:28.720 in

00:57:28.860 anything

00:57:29.220 and

00:57:29.400 they're

00:57:29.520 not

00:57:29.680 going

00:57:29.780 to

00:57:29.880 do

00:57:30.060 anything

00:57:30.460 and

00:57:30.660 regardless

00:57:31.540 of

00:57:31.740 what

00:57:31.860 color

00:57:32.140 your

00:57:32.360 jersey

00:57:32.700 is

00:57:33.000 you're

00:57:33.160 going

00:57:33.280 to

00:57:33.340 have

00:57:33.460 the

00:57:33.620 same

00:57:34.000 approach

00:57:34.760 to

00:57:34.980 big

00:57:35.420 important

00:57:35.920 issues

00:57:36.420 then

00:57:37.140 you're

00:57:37.460 making

00:57:37.780 a lot

00:57:38.040 of

00:57:38.120 people

00:57:38.320 feel

00:57:38.600 like

00:57:38.780 politics

00:57:39.260 isn't

00:57:39.540 even

00:57:39.760 worth

00:57:40.060 getting

00:57:40.320 involved

00:57:40.720 in

00:57:40.880 in

00:57:40.980 the

00:57:41.080 first

00:57:41.300 place

00:57:41.680 you're

00:57:42.320 making

00:57:42.520 a lot

00:57:42.760 of

00:57:42.840 people

00:57:43.000 feel

00:57:43.260 like

00:57:43.520 making

00:57:44.140 the

00:57:44.300 time

00:57:44.500 to

00:57:44.680 vote

00:57:44.960 is

00:57:45.160 not

00:57:45.360 worth

00:57:45.620 it

00:57:45.720 in

00:57:45.820 the

00:57:45.940 first

00:57:46.160 place

00:57:46.540 and

00:57:47.000 that

00:57:47.280 is

00:57:47.460 my

00:57:47.680 biggest

00:57:47.980 concern

00:57:48.420 among

00:57:48.720 anything

00:57:49.240 as

00:57:49.840 it

00:57:49.980 relates

00:57:50.380 to

00:57:51.040 Doug

00:57:51.360 Ford

00:57:51.700 is

00:57:51.960 that

00:57:52.100 is

00:57:52.420 what

00:57:52.560 he's

00:57:52.780 doing

00:57:53.040 to

00:57:53.280 our

00:57:53.520 people

00:57:53.920 in

00:57:54.540 Ontario

00:57:54.960 and

00:57:55.840 ventures

00:57:56.300 to do

00:57:56.660 to

00:57:56.860 our

00:57:57.020 people

00:57:57.300 across

00:57:57.660 the

00:57:57.860 nation

00:57:58.140 I

00:57:58.340 think

00:57:58.580 if

00:57:58.720 he

00:57:58.820 had

00:57:59.000 his

00:57:59.180 way

00:57:59.480 so

00:58:00.480 that

00:58:01.640 that

00:58:01.940 is

00:58:02.140 what

00:58:02.300 bothers

00:58:02.600 me

00:58:02.800 and

00:58:03.020 why

00:58:03.320 I

00:58:03.460 was

00:58:03.640 so

00:58:04.060 amped

00:58:05.140 up

00:58:05.520 on

00:58:05.940 election

00:58:06.320 night

00:58:06.640 is

00:58:07.640 because

00:58:07.900 for

00:58:08.360 weeks

00:58:08.700 and

00:58:08.900 weeks

00:58:09.280 I

00:58:09.960 had

00:58:10.180 been

00:58:10.360 seeing

00:58:10.940 volunteers

00:58:12.300 putting

00:58:13.380 their

00:58:13.680 effort

00:58:14.120 in

00:58:14.440 to

00:58:14.940 trying

00:58:15.340 to

00:58:15.540 help

00:58:15.880 win

00:58:16.220 this

00:58:16.480 federal

00:58:16.820 election

00:58:17.320 kids

00:58:18.200 who

00:58:18.400 never

00:58:18.820 voted

00:58:19.140 before

00:58:19.680 single

00:58:21.260 moms

00:58:21.720 making

00:58:22.020 time

00:58:22.360 after

00:58:22.720 her

00:58:22.960 shift

00:58:23.280 to

00:58:23.500 come

00:58:23.740 and

00:58:23.880 knock

00:58:24.100 on

00:58:24.320 doors

00:58:24.660 people

00:58:25.260 who

00:58:25.420 were

00:58:25.520 giving

00:58:25.780 everything

00:58:26.240 they

00:58:26.460 had

00:58:26.820 and

00:58:27.440 when

00:58:27.600 they

00:58:27.800 would

00:58:27.960 open

00:58:28.260 up

00:58:28.440 their

00:58:28.620 phones

00:58:29.080 and

00:58:29.540 see

00:58:29.740 stories

00:58:30.420 of

00:58:31.420 the

00:58:31.980 so-called

00:58:32.700 conservative

00:58:33.300 premier

00:58:33.660 of

00:58:33.820 Ontario

00:58:34.320 trashing

00:58:35.320 what

00:58:35.860 we

00:58:36.000 were

00:58:36.160 doing

00:58:36.540 they

00:58:37.420 felt

00:58:37.840 discouraged

00:58:38.540 and

00:58:39.700 they

00:58:40.000 deserve

00:58:40.380 someone

00:58:40.740 to

00:58:40.960 speak

00:58:41.280 up

00:58:41.480 for

00:58:41.600 them

00:58:41.880 and

00:58:42.360 tell

00:58:42.540 this

00:58:42.780 guy

00:58:43.060 I

00:58:44.440 don't

00:58:48.960 respect

00:58:49.360 you

00:58:49.800 and

00:58:51.020 I'm

00:58:51.180 going

00:58:51.260 to

00:58:51.360 point

00:58:51.600 it

00:58:51.720 out

00:58:51.980 because

00:58:52.780 I

00:58:52.960 don't

00:58:53.080 like

00:58:53.260 what

00:58:53.400 you're

00:58:53.540 doing

00:58:53.780 to

00:58:53.920 the

00:58:54.060 people

00:58:54.300 who

00:58:54.420 are

00:58:54.500 trying

00:58:54.700 to

00:58:54.840 fight

00:58:55.060 for

00:58:55.220 a

00:58:55.340 better

00:58:55.500 country

00:58:55.940 that

00:58:56.660 was

00:58:56.860 the

00:58:57.020 point

00:58:57.180 I

00:58:57.300 had

00:58:57.380 to

00:58:57.440 make

00:58:57.540 all

00:59:04.300 right

00:59:04.440 well

00:59:04.620 we're

00:59:04.760 only

00:59:04.960 one

00:59:05.260 minute

00:59:05.460 over

00:59:05.640 time

00:59:05.880 so

00:59:06.000 I

00:59:06.060 think

00:59:06.160 that's

00:59:06.320 a

00:59:06.400 good

00:59:06.520 time

00:59:06.740 for

00:59:06.880 a

00:59:07.000 mic

00:59:07.180 drop

00:59:07.540 thank

00:59:08.660 you

00:59:08.820 Jamil

00:59:09.180 I

00:59:09.720 can

00:59:14.200 you

00:59:15.860 holy

00:59:16.020 arrogant

00:59:16.380 frustration

00:59:16.880 oh

00:59:17.760 happy

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00:59:34.080 christ

00:59:34.680 you

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Western Standard - September 17, 2025

FILDEBRANDT： Nihilism, reform, or revolution？ Young men in 2025

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