Western Standard - November 03, 2023


Finance Ministers discuss Alberta's potential exit from CPP


Episode Stats

Length

5 minutes

Words per Minute

111.434105

Word Count

575

Sentence Count

29


Summary

Learn English with Honourable Navie Littlewood, Deputy Prime Minister of Canada and Minister of Finance, Niki Ashton Mayhew, speaks at a special meeting of Provincial and Territorial Finance Ministers to discuss the Canada Pension Plan and the importance of protecting Canadians' pensions.


Transcript

00:00:00.840 Today I convened a special meeting of provincial and territorial finance ministers to discuss
00:00:07.040 the Canada Pension Plan and the importance of protecting Canadians' pensions from coast
00:00:12.600 to coast to coast.
00:00:14.560 Of course, Alberta has the right to withdraw from the CPP should it so choose.
00:00:23.940 All of the ministers recognize that today and every single minister including me, a proud
00:00:32.560 daughter of Alberta, spoke about our respect for the people of Alberta and for the absolutely
00:00:40.360 essential role that Alberta plays as an economic engine for our whole country.
00:00:48.780 But Alberta's choice about the CPP also implicates every single Canadian, so it was important
00:00:57.520 for all of us as the federal government and provincial and territorial finance ministers
00:01:04.180 to be present and to discuss together what the consequences for the whole country would
00:01:11.400 be if Alberta were to leave the CPP.
00:01:16.120 What the consequences would be for people across the country, including for the people of Alberta.
00:01:25.200 That includes the financial reality for a province that decides to withdraw from the CPP.
00:01:33.700 And that's why I told ministers today that I would ask the chief actuary to provide an estimate
00:01:42.400 of the asset transfer based on a reasonable interpretation of the provisions in the CPP legislation.
00:01:53.580 Our officials will work together to define the precise taskings for this work.
00:02:02.960 One of the other points that I raised in our meeting and that was raised by many other ministers
00:02:10.460 was the issue of portability.
00:02:13.940 The CPP allows Canadians to live and work anywhere in Canada without jeopardizing their retirement.
00:02:24.160 Many ministers spoke personally in this meeting.
00:02:28.160 They talked about their own lives, living and working across Canada.
00:02:33.160 And they talked about the lives of members of their family and how portability had been
00:02:39.080 really important.
00:02:41.700 If Alberta were to withdraw from the CPP, the federal government would need to issue a regulation
00:02:48.280 recognizing comparability with the CPP.
00:02:52.600 And Alberta would need to negotiate complex, time-consuming portability agreements with the
00:02:59.600 CPP and with the Quebec Pension Plan.
00:03:03.600 Furthermore, if Alberta were to choose to leave, the government of Alberta would also need to
00:03:10.240 negotiate international social security agreements to ensure similar treatment of contributors who
00:03:17.440 spend part of their careers abroad.
00:03:19.600 As an example, Quebec has negotiated its own social security agreements with 39 countries,
00:03:28.600 and Canada has negotiated with 60.
00:03:32.600 This would be a complex and multi-year process.
00:03:36.600 And it would be taking place at a time of real uncertainty.
00:03:41.600 Geopolitical uncertainty, global economic uncertainty around the world.
00:03:48.600 I truly believe, as Deputy Prime Minister and as Finance Minister of Canada, that adding to
00:03:57.600 that uncertainty right now is not something that would help Albertans or any Canadians.
00:04:07.600 Because at the end of the day, this conversation is all about the wellbeing and the financial security
00:04:16.600 of all Canadians.
00:04:18.600 Since the CPP was founded nearly 60 years ago, no province has ever left.
00:04:24.600 This action is unprecedented, it would be very complicated, and it would come at a time of great uncertainty and complexity.
00:04:37.600 Protecting the pensions of every single Canadian is a priority for our government.
00:04:43.600 We will always stand up for the Canada Pension Plan and for the secure and dignified retirement it provides to all Canadians.
00:04:53.600 A point I made clear in today's meeting.
00:04:56.600 This is just the beginning of a national conversation, and I expect to meet with my ministerial counterparts in person in the coming weeks.
00:05:07.600 Thank you.
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