Western Standard - November 03, 2023


Finance Ministers discuss Alberta's potential exit from CPP


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Learn English with Honourable Navie Littlewood, Deputy Prime Minister of Canada and Minister of Finance, Niki Ashton Mayhew, speaks at a special meeting of Provincial and Territorial Finance Ministers to discuss the Canada Pension Plan and the importance of protecting Canadians' pensions.

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00:00:00.840 Today I convened a special meeting of provincial and territorial finance ministers to discuss
00:00:07.040 the Canada Pension Plan and the importance of protecting Canadians' pensions from coast
00:00:12.600 to coast to coast.
00:00:14.560 Of course, Alberta has the right to withdraw from the CPP should it so choose.
00:00:23.940 All of the ministers recognize that today and every single minister including me, a proud
00:00:32.560 daughter of Alberta, spoke about our respect for the people of Alberta and for the absolutely
00:00:40.360 essential role that Alberta plays as an economic engine for our whole country.
00:00:48.780 But Alberta's choice about the CPP also implicates every single Canadian, so it was important
00:00:57.520 for all of us as the federal government and provincial and territorial finance ministers
00:01:04.180 to be present and to discuss together what the consequences for the whole country would
00:01:11.400 be if Alberta were to leave the CPP.
00:01:16.120 What the consequences would be for people across the country, including for the people of Alberta.
00:01:25.200 That includes the financial reality for a province that decides to withdraw from the CPP.
00:01:33.700 And that's why I told ministers today that I would ask the chief actuary to provide an estimate
00:01:42.400 of the asset transfer based on a reasonable interpretation of the provisions in the CPP legislation.
00:01:53.580 Our officials will work together to define the precise taskings for this work.
00:02:02.960 One of the other points that I raised in our meeting and that was raised by many other ministers
00:02:10.460 was the issue of portability.
00:02:13.940 The CPP allows Canadians to live and work anywhere in Canada without jeopardizing their retirement.
00:02:24.160 Many ministers spoke personally in this meeting.
00:02:28.160 They talked about their own lives, living and working across Canada.
00:02:33.160 And they talked about the lives of members of their family and how portability had been
00:02:39.080 really important.
00:02:41.700 If Alberta were to withdraw from the CPP, the federal government would need to issue a regulation
00:02:48.280 recognizing comparability with the CPP.
00:02:52.600 And Alberta would need to negotiate complex, time-consuming portability agreements with the
00:02:59.600 CPP and with the Quebec Pension Plan.
00:03:03.600 Furthermore, if Alberta were to choose to leave, the government of Alberta would also need to
00:03:10.240 negotiate international social security agreements to ensure similar treatment of contributors who
00:03:17.440 spend part of their careers abroad.
00:03:19.600 As an example, Quebec has negotiated its own social security agreements with 39 countries,
00:03:28.600 and Canada has negotiated with 60.
00:03:32.600 This would be a complex and multi-year process.
00:03:36.600 And it would be taking place at a time of real uncertainty.
00:03:41.600 Geopolitical uncertainty, global economic uncertainty around the world.
00:03:48.600 I truly believe, as Deputy Prime Minister and as Finance Minister of Canada, that adding to
00:03:57.600 that uncertainty right now is not something that would help Albertans or any Canadians.
00:04:07.600 Because at the end of the day, this conversation is all about the wellbeing and the financial security
00:04:16.600 of all Canadians.
00:04:18.600 Since the CPP was founded nearly 60 years ago, no province has ever left.
00:04:24.600 This action is unprecedented, it would be very complicated, and it would come at a time of great uncertainty and complexity.
00:04:37.600 Protecting the pensions of every single Canadian is a priority for our government.
00:04:43.600 We will always stand up for the Canada Pension Plan and for the secure and dignified retirement it provides to all Canadians.
00:04:53.600 A point I made clear in today's meeting.
00:04:56.600 This is just the beginning of a national conversation, and I expect to meet with my ministerial counterparts in person in the coming weeks.
00:05:07.600 Thank you.
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