Western Standard - April 09, 2026


Floor crossing gives Liberals their majority


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00:00:00.000 Good day, today is April 8th, 2026.
00:00:27.980 I am Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard.
00:00:30.560 You're watching The Pipeline.
00:00:32.500 I've got two of the three usual folks joining me.
00:00:36.100 Former Western Standard opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford.
00:00:40.660 Good afternoon, everybody.
00:00:41.840 That's all you got?
00:00:42.740 Okay.
00:00:43.600 Senior Alberta columnist, Corey Morgan.
00:00:45.880 Good day.
00:00:47.000 And subbing in for Dave today, because we're going to be talking about a story he did.
00:00:51.660 We've got Western Standard porter, Jackson Loy.
00:00:55.080 Good afternoon.
00:00:55.700 You can often see him actually sitting kind of behind where, between where Nigel and Corey is.
00:01:00.700 I moved it actually.
00:01:01.880 You moved his desk because he didn't lie to me on the camera.
00:01:05.060 He lured from the Dave Wink noodle incident.
00:01:07.720 Yeah, Shanghai shame, Shanghai noodle shame.
00:01:10.640 Yeah.
00:01:11.780 Okay.
00:01:12.760 Well, of course, we're going to be talking about the floor crossing.
00:01:17.200 Conservative MP, is it Matty Gladow?
00:01:20.980 Yes.
00:01:22.120 Gladue, Gladue, Gladue.
00:01:23.340 crossing the floor
00:01:25.340 to the Liberals, putting them one seat
00:01:27.220 away from the majority, but there's three seats
00:01:29.260 coming up in a by-election. Liberals
00:01:31.320 stand to potentially win all three of them,
00:01:33.420 but they only need to win one now,
00:01:35.180 and they'll have their majority government. We'll be talking
00:01:37.300 about that.
00:01:39.100 As I intimated, Jackson broke a great
00:01:41.440 story
00:01:42.180 late last week.
00:01:46.160 Tell a doctor
00:01:47.120 fraud in Alberta.
00:01:49.240 You want time off of work,
00:01:51.600 and you need a sick note,
00:01:53.340 But you don't even have to see a doctor. You just call a doctor on the phone and they'll just give it to you.
00:01:57.720 Better yet, they'll even give you dangerous and addictive prescription sleeping pills.
00:02:03.000 All of these things, you just call a doctor in Alberta and you can get them pretty cheap.
00:02:07.900 You pay them more. You actually get more time off of work.
00:02:09.920 You can get two, three weeks, depending on how much you're willing to pay the doctor.
00:02:13.740 So a bit of a potential bruing scandal about corruption in Alberta's or fraud in Alberta's health care system.
00:02:20.600 But first, we'll start with the big news today.
00:02:23.340 ceasefire. I'm going to use the term armistice
00:02:27.040 because I think it's actually the correct term here. Armistice in the
00:02:31.240 Second Iranian War.
00:02:34.780 We'll just number it. Iran War II. I don't know. Or is it Gulf War III?
00:02:39.460 Sequels, yeah. Gulf War III? I don't know. How do you want to define this? I don't know.
00:02:43.460 Iran War II for now. But an armistice.
00:02:48.320 So, Corey, the
00:02:50.800 casus belli, the cause for war
00:02:54.020 has always been
00:02:54.840 muddled
00:02:57.660 at best. It was weapons of mass
00:02:59.700 destruction, but I thought America
00:03:01.480 and Israel destroyed them six months earlier.
00:03:03.920 So that didn't really hold its regime change.
00:03:06.860 Well,
00:03:07.920 that also would necessitate to
00:03:09.600 change the names, but they all pretty much look the same.
00:03:12.260 Yeah.
00:03:13.980 It's, other than blow a bunch
00:03:15.940 of stuff up, it's unclear what's
00:03:18.180 been achieved here, but
00:03:19.920 there is a armistice
00:03:21.660 agreement in place. There's been
00:03:23.960 some violations on different
00:03:25.940 sides, as we
00:03:27.880 believe in the tiff-tatt of who started these things.
00:03:30.500 But for
00:03:31.820 two weeks, there's supposed to be a peace deal
00:03:33.400 based on a 10-point
00:03:36.100 plan put forward by the
00:03:37.940 Iranians. There's some dispute about what's in that 10-point
00:03:40.060 plan.
00:03:42.600 But, I don't know.
00:03:44.020 So your take
00:03:44.620 on, did America
00:03:47.660 win this war? No.
00:03:49.920 And the bulk of America are, I think, scratching their heads and saying, why the hell did we get into this?
00:03:56.080 I mean, there's a lot of speculation as to why.
00:03:58.020 I think your common citizen is just like, what on earth are we doing here?
00:04:02.120 You know, you'd expect a smoking gun faster than that than if there really was something.
00:04:06.540 And it's just looking like another impulsive, strange action from President Trump.
00:04:11.000 And the brain leading to this, you know, ceasefire armistice, whatnot, President Trump's tweet or truth social posting the other night where he said he was going to eliminate a civilization.
00:04:25.440 That's beyond the paleo for Trump.
00:04:27.580 I know I've got people upset with me for saying that online.
00:04:30.140 But get over it, guys.
00:04:30.920 I mean, good Lord, you do not, in that position, no matter where you're sitting, talk about eliminating a civilization.
00:04:37.780 and thankfully
00:04:39.560 it turned out to be just that he wasn't
00:04:42.080 going to do anything that extreme
00:04:43.720 but I guess it was his leading up
00:04:46.080 to now claiming victory well I scared them so
00:04:48.020 badly they've offered this
00:04:49.560 ceasefire which
00:04:51.660 looks like a whole bunch of demands made to the United
00:04:54.120 States and not too much
00:04:56.080 on the other end and now
00:04:58.040 we're at as I said we had this discussion a couple hours
00:05:00.060 ago as we're getting ready for this and since then
00:05:01.940 now the street has been closed
00:05:04.020 again
00:05:04.500 Iran has launched
00:05:07.560 on, let's see, Saudi, Kuwait,
00:05:08.960 Israel, and Bahrain,
00:05:11.080 and Israel is bombing the hell out of
00:05:12.980 Lebanon, so I don't know how
00:05:15.140 far this ceasefire is going to last or where
00:05:17.300 it's going to go. As you said, the fingers
00:05:19.260 are all pointing on who shot first, and it's believable
00:05:21.300 out of any of them.
00:05:23.520 But it's just been an interesting development. I guess
00:05:25.280 for the sake of not wanting to see people die, let's
00:05:27.260 hope something comes together and they can shut it
00:05:29.280 down for a couple weeks and bring some sanity in here.
00:05:32.820 You know,
00:05:33.340 Sometimes I like to say I told you so, sometimes I don't.
00:05:36.740 No, you always like to say that.
00:05:37.440 I do a bit.
00:05:38.300 I always do a bit, but I don't want to be right.
00:05:41.060 I've always wished I was wrong about this war, but I'll take a little victory lap, I think.
00:05:46.660 I think I get to take one here on this one, and I don't want to.
00:05:51.420 I always wished I was wrong about it.
00:05:53.200 But let's go through the 10-point plan just kind of really briefly.
00:05:57.240 Again, there is some dispute about the 10-point plan.
00:06:00.540 It was released in Arabic first because it was coming through negotiators and Pakistan, which is funny because neither Pakistan nor Iran are Arabic-speaking countries.
00:06:13.780 But they all have no use of Arabic because that's the Quranic language.
00:06:18.480 So there's dispute around this.
00:06:19.820 But here's what is generally considered to be the 10-point plan.
00:06:25.460 U.S. guarantee of non-U.S. and Israeli agree of non-aggression.
00:06:27.960 They won't attack Iran again.
00:06:29.220 I got rich to sell you
00:06:31.640 if you can take that to the bank
00:06:33.720 Iranian control of the Strait of Hormuz
00:06:36.640 so Iran has to guarantee people
00:06:40.300 come through it
00:06:41.000 but they get to
00:06:43.760 toll ships going through
00:06:45.920 not only have they been towing $2 million going through
00:06:47.660 I mean that
00:06:48.940 I mean your eyes pop out
00:06:51.120 holy hell things are worse
00:06:54.060 if that's the case
00:06:54.680 recognition of Iran's nuclear enrichment rights
00:06:57.840 So it has to be peaceful. It has to be for industrial reasons. It can't be for weapons.
00:07:03.080 If that's been the deal, that's fine.
00:07:05.680 So that's a gain, too, because the United States and Israel are saying no enrichment at all.
00:07:09.400 We don't trust you to do industrial and not take it to highly enriched uranium for weapons.
00:07:14.140 So that would be another huge defeat for the Israelis and the Americans.
00:07:18.280 Lifting of all sanctions on Iran.
00:07:22.300 Like, gigantic victory.
00:07:25.580 Termination of the UN Security Council resolutions against Iran.
00:07:29.300 Cessation of regional wars.
00:07:31.040 So complete and permanent end to the conflicts in Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Hezbollah, Yemen, Houthis.
00:07:40.140 I mean, I think that's just a generally good thing.
00:07:42.700 I'm not sure if that's a victory for one side or another.
00:07:44.460 But I think it turned out Iran's proxies like Hezbollah and the Houthis turned out not to actually be all that valuable in this.
00:07:51.200 They got the crap kicked out of them.
00:07:53.400 Iran's main form of retaliation was missiles.
00:07:57.320 That was actually pretty successful for Iran's part.
00:07:59.880 U.S. troop withdrawal.
00:08:01.560 So a removal or significant reduction in the American military presence in the region.
00:08:06.720 And provisions for war damage and economic recovery support with possible reparations for Iran.
00:08:12.180 Okay.
00:08:13.220 I have a hard time believing that actually is the 10 points because it sounds like an Ayatollah wet dream.
00:08:19.640 Sounds more like demands, actually.
00:08:20.820 Yeah.
00:08:21.040 yeah i uh that being the case it's a bit early to say that that's a victory for the iranians
00:08:26.880 until somebody actually agrees to that yeah but they're saying this is the framework for
00:08:31.600 discussions of you know making sure this is not just two-week temporary armistice but an actual
00:08:36.960 piece so we're going to take mr trump's word that this is actually something that they can work with
00:08:43.440 i i have a hard time at this this is it as even a starting point for negotiations this is a
00:08:51.040 total collapse of American military
00:08:53.940 and political and diplomatic influence
00:08:55.800 in the entire region.
00:08:56.800 You've done trade and union negotiations, haven't you?
00:08:58.940 Pardon?
00:08:59.460 You've done trade and union negotiations, haven't you?
00:09:01.740 I've negotiated with you guys.
00:09:04.880 Now, look, you know,
00:09:06.320 the union walks into the office
00:09:08.520 and they lay down their list of demands
00:09:10.240 and you think, whatever.
00:09:11.840 And after that, you start to go backwards and forwards.
00:09:14.240 And eventually, an agreement comes out
00:09:16.680 that doesn't look significantly different
00:09:18.060 from what you started with.
00:09:19.200 Just a little more money, a little more there.
00:09:21.480 This is the Iranian trade union saying, in a perfect world, this is what we would like, including control of the Straits of Hormuz.
00:09:31.120 I don't think they're going to get it.
00:09:34.040 I mean, okay, yeah, in a negotiation, one side, especially with a union, one side comes with wild demands.
00:09:41.600 But this was not the starting point of demands.
00:09:43.780 This is the agreed to shared framework.
00:09:47.020 Again, there is dispute about this.
00:09:49.540 Carolyn, look at the press secretary of the president is saying, no, it's not, but not
00:09:54.500 really saying, well, what is the framework that they've agreed to?
00:09:56.740 They have agreed to 10 points.
00:09:58.060 What are the 10 points you've agreed to?
00:10:00.140 So this is not a starting point.
00:10:01.680 This is, at least as far as we know, this is the starting, this is the shared framework
00:10:06.000 for it.
00:10:06.820 If so, this is an abject, total defeat of the United States and a humiliation of it
00:10:13.080 in the region.
00:10:13.720 Well, if that was in fact, if that becomes the permanent agreement, you would be right.
00:10:20.980 But I don't think it's going to be that.
00:10:22.900 And part of anything else, from what we're hearing, it's going to start up again in 24 hours, if not 24, 48.
00:10:30.080 And it won't be a framework for anything other than the, what did you call it, a wet dream?
00:10:35.800 Ayatollah's wet dream.
00:10:37.100 I mean, a trademark and something right now.
00:10:39.100 It's usually a guy's goat's dancing across.
00:10:43.720 Jackson, I know these warmongers are trying to walk their previous statements back.
00:10:51.040 I know you, I think you've had a bit of a different day on it.
00:10:55.220 The, I don't, today I put up a meme of, you know, we all remember, too young for you, you're too young,
00:11:03.460 but George Bush on the aircraft carrier with the mission accomplished.
00:11:06.700 Yeah.
00:11:06.880 I know, we had, when we photoshopped Donald Trump onto it today.
00:11:11.400 I feel like that is even too far
00:11:14.140 because at least
00:11:15.440 and thank God they didn't go
00:11:18.260 too far
00:11:18.820 I think they very much wanted a ground
00:11:22.140 invasion, a full dirty war
00:11:24.140 here, but the
00:11:26.200 chief of staff
00:11:27.780 for the US Army resigned
00:11:30.120 over this
00:11:31.860 and roughly half a dozen
00:11:34.280 generals that were aware of a lot of the
00:11:36.120 upper brass, they were either fired
00:11:38.360 resigned or forced to resign
00:11:40.460 combinations of these things it seems they couldn't find a general willing to carry out
00:11:46.140 the orders here for a ground invasion and so they just kind of threw up their hands you know Trump
00:11:52.420 is according to Trump he's never lost anything in his life we've won tremendous victory total
00:11:56.280 victory unconditional surrender and he even said it's regime change and it's literally just the son
00:12:01.060 of the Ayatollah uh what do you think finally got the Americans just to go from 24 hours earlier
00:12:08.440 threatening genocide and like implying nuclear war to uh seemingly agree to a framework that is
00:12:16.640 a total humiliation i think from the get-go this war there's there's been really the reason for
00:12:22.120 the invasion or for the not the invasion the uh attack on iran has been muddled there's been no
00:12:28.480 clear at least with iraq with iraq and with the gulf war there was it was regime change and they
00:12:32.920 said from the outset no it was weapons of mass destruction at least they had just two whereas
00:12:38.040 with iran is from the start there's been no clear objective and so when you start a war with no
00:12:43.240 clear objective and then claim victory when the end goal will be what if in the when the best
00:12:49.400 case scenario it'll be status quo from beforehand so i can't see how they can come out of this in
00:12:55.720 any sort of positive manner like i mean i guess in trump's eyes he's he's killed the ayatollah so
00:13:01.480 that's a victory but again i don't think the americans understand is when you're dealing with
00:13:05.500 a regime like iran that martyrdom that sense of like dying for the cause will only bolster support
00:13:11.360 with the iranian people and before this is there was a sort of a a simmering support for the return
00:13:17.080 of the shah and kind of you know persian monarchism and that but now it's it like you threaten to
00:13:23.980 annihilate a people you're not going to be winning popular support and getting those people to rise
00:13:27.640 up to support the person who says we're going to annihilate you it just it doesn't make sense
00:13:32.140 Well, I mean, this is one of the, well, it should have been lessons of, say, the Second World War, is demanding unconditional surrender means that people are not going to be willing to overthrow their regime to attain better peace terms.
00:13:45.180 It's like, you know, when it becomes clear, like, we're going to annihilate you, we're going to crush your cities, carve up your territory.
00:13:51.140 People tend to rally behind the regime, even if they don't like the regime.
00:13:55.260 and you can you threaten annihilating a civilization intimating essentially a nuclear attack
00:14:01.900 people like and you start blowing up civilian infrastructure you could turn me into a friggin
00:14:08.080 ayatollist i'll go blow myself like god at that point well not just that but the threatening of
00:14:12.320 energy infrastructure and on another point i don't think trump i think trump understands like i don't
00:14:17.520 think he truly understands the word unconditional surrender means i think he's heard it and same
00:14:20.180 with pete heggs as well i think he just heard that that's what you get when you win a war you
00:14:24.020 unconditional surrender so they're saying unconditional surrender you will not get that
00:14:27.880 with this regime and it was that was that was never going to happen Iran is Afghanistan is a
00:14:32.560 country of 90 million people you were never going to be able to fully it's assert your will on that
00:14:38.460 country so any thoughts of that was was well it's also a misinterpretation of the atmosphere on the
00:14:43.940 ground too though I mean there had been a lot of activity looking like maybe the citizenship were
00:14:47.600 ready to rise up like if we could just shake down the regime enough the people themselves were going
00:14:52.660 to get up and you know have a revolution which didn't happen if anything actually it seems to
00:14:57.900 have unified them yeah but you know there were mass protests there were people pushing back
00:15:03.380 against the the regime i guess when push came to shove though they were still saying well we'd
00:15:07.720 rather the dictator who's our guy rather over the overseas dictator who's not and do we have that in
00:15:15.160 writing somewhere with the the express will of the you know the ordinary iranian no i mean that's a
00:15:22.140 hard thing to read but i mean at least you know your hope would be if there was such an atmosphere
00:15:27.400 that they were ready to overthrow if you've weakened the regime enough that's when people
00:15:30.980 are going to see that opportunity say let's go for it because they tried a couple of months ago
00:15:34.800 and tens of thousands of them died for their efforts and you know you would see what happens
00:15:41.600 when they start slipping weapons in the back door in iran well that might have been more of the
00:15:46.320 which is, I think,
00:15:48.920 quietly being attended to.
00:15:50.660 That should have been done
00:15:51.500 months ago.
00:15:52.780 It seems like something you do before you do.
00:15:54.920 You know, like you'd be in a position.
00:15:58.640 Well, you'll see.
00:16:00.180 One thing is for sure, there ain't going to be any
00:16:02.160 Iranian nuclear weapon in the very near
00:16:04.320 future, or even in the midterm future.
00:16:06.260 Well, actually, I would leave for this point.
00:16:08.960 We don't really know
00:16:10.260 what the status of the Iranian nuclear program
00:16:12.240 was. We don't know if they were actively building weapons
00:16:14.300 with the first Iranian war six months ago.
00:16:16.320 We don't know if they were building one this time.
00:16:18.340 They've provided essentially no proof both times.
00:16:21.480 But, you know, as I've made the point before, they claimed that they utterly annihilated their program and set it back decades, six months ago, and then they claimed to be doing it again now.
00:16:32.660 So I am hesitant to believe U.S. and Israeli intelligence around this, following also Iraq before that.
00:16:40.860 I'm pretty hesitant to believe that.
00:16:42.640 But I can, just gaming things out, I'll tell you, if the Iranians weren't building a nuclear weapon before, they are now.
00:16:52.060 That is the only guarantee they have that this doesn't happen in a third war.
00:16:55.700 They want to. They certainly are in no position to do so.
00:16:59.000 I'm not, who knows? Who knows?
00:17:01.060 Or you could just go buy some dirty bomb parts from someone else who's already got them.
00:17:06.140 I don't know.
00:17:06.940 But if the Iranians were playing ball before, and again, I don't believe any of the intelligence, I don't believe the propaganda from either sides, I don't know what to believe.
00:17:16.140 But if they weren't building a bomb before, they are definitely building one right now.
00:17:19.900 They have to build a bomb, essentially.
00:17:21.440 Or their resolve has been strengthened in that.
00:17:23.160 Yeah.
00:17:23.460 It's like you're not installing a killing the top brass is not going to make them be, okay, you're a friendly power we can deal with.
00:17:29.060 Even if I was like a secular, liberal, Persian monarchist regime in Iran, I would be quietly building a bomb right now.
00:17:36.760 It's pretty clear that that's the only deterrent to stop war every six months.
00:17:41.200 I don't know about that.
00:17:41.640 I mean, that's the one and only thing that could get the world on side with the U.S. again to go in.
00:17:45.680 Because that is the one regime I really don't want to see getting a bloody bomb.
00:17:50.360 And I understand it's questionable the word of Trump or even Bush when it came to weapons of mass destruction.
00:17:56.300 But if they really start building one and that evidence really comes out, boy, the United States would love to be able to point to that.
00:18:01.400 That's when you can get a coalition.
00:18:02.200 But will anybody believe their evidence now?
00:18:03.880 It's the boy who cried wolf.
00:18:05.040 You've had Iran 1, you've had Iran 2, and there's been no solid evidence provided any of those three times.
00:18:12.640 So Iran could build a bomb now, and who's going to believe the Americans or Israelis if they claim it?
00:18:18.580 And they might be true this time, but that's what happened with the boy who cried wolf.
00:18:22.460 Let's see if any enriched uranium is produced as a result of these negotiations, because that's part of the 10 as well.
00:18:29.880 Okay, all right, we'll move along. Something a little less dreary.
00:18:35.040 So, Jackson, you did a great report this week, and we were chatting this morning.
00:18:45.220 I think it deserves more attention, so we won't talk about it on the pipeline.
00:18:49.600 You've got a bottle of pills in front of you, and you've got some sick notes that you were able to pay for through the Western Standards.
00:18:58.020 just tell folks what the hell you did and what you found what's going on with these
00:19:03.300 uh kind of telehealth doctors in alberta well basically i've been able to i i could have been
00:19:07.540 off work until uh tomorrow or no a couple days from now i could be at home lounging but i'm not
00:19:13.220 i'm here unfortunately um but so basically we we started an investigation just to see how easy it
00:19:17.860 would be to get um well it started out as sick notes you know fake sick notes if you just call
00:19:22.180 a doctor's i have a headache i don't want to go to work will they write you a sick note found out
00:19:26.660 they will if you want to if you want to and you didn't have to see a doctor didn't have to
00:19:30.500 a face i'm a doctor just over the phone what's your symptoms i'm stressed from work i don't know
00:19:35.460 i didn't need two weeks off okay sure here's here's uh two weeks oh you want three weeks
00:19:39.620 ninety dollars you want a month hundred like it's it's a pay-to-play sort of system and then it
00:19:44.180 became what can we get out of this how much can we get and found out you can get pretty serious
00:19:49.700 stuff like so okay tell us what you so this is zopaclone it's a uh it's called a zed drug uh
00:19:57.620 i don't want to put the name there but you can see there yeah don't put the name of the
00:20:01.220 thing there but okay derek's gonna start taking we're gonna we're gonna block that little part
00:20:05.860 out if uh if you saw sure you don't get doxxed but yeah so basically i was able to have a phone
00:20:10.900 call with one of these online doctors uh told them oh i'm not sleeping well stressed out from work
00:20:16.500 a bit of headaches i didn't even ask i didn't say oh i want can you give me some sleeping pills
00:20:20.280 uh she said would you like some i said of course they just offered them of course i'd like some
00:20:25.360 and what do you know i went to my uh pharmacy that uh that night 15 later and i've got a little thing
00:20:31.840 uh sleeping pills that i can now take and drink some liquor and kill myself with so
00:20:37.000 15 tablets yeah i mean you take those all at once with a bottle rye uh you're having a night
00:20:42.200 When I talked to Dr. Monte Ghosh at the University of Calgary and he basically was very informative and told me that, you know, these pills are like you hear about oxycontin and all these other like, you know, benzos and stuff.
00:20:53.440 This isn't a benzo, but this is still a, you know, a highly addictive sleeping pill that should not be able to get that you should not be able to get through just a phone call to an online physician.
00:21:05.520 yeah so yeah this started because we were uh we we thought you there might be suspicions about um
00:21:12.560 uh how easy is it to get a sick note um yeah i know when i'm you know if i'm sick i guess i
00:21:18.240 don't have to give myself a sick note now but uh you know we allow people to take some sick days
00:21:22.960 here within reason um but you know if someone wants you know kind of an extended leave you
00:21:28.000 know we require a sick note that we don't require sick note for taking one day off you got the flu
00:21:31.840 you know that's no one wants to get up and go to the doctor's office to see that
00:21:35.580 but i would always expect that a doctors don't provide it to me if someone's going on long-term
00:21:42.700 medical leave that they would have seen a doctor uh you think you didn't even have to facetime
00:21:48.860 you're just on the phone with them uh nigel i know you've been uh i don't mean this meanly but
00:21:54.200 you've you've been in the workplace a while um you know traditionally you would expect you'd see
00:22:00.180 a doctor, but this is a new thing. I'm not sure exactly how new, but it's relatively new.
00:22:06.100 Chris Oldcorn, our reporter in Saskatchewan and opinion editor, he tried at Saskatchewan with
00:22:11.080 at least one of these telehealth places. They told him pound sand. They're like, we'll give
00:22:16.840 you two days at most. And that is so that you can go take the time off work to go to a doctor and
00:22:21.060 get some tests and see what's wrong with you. They did not seem to have the same problem, Nigel.
00:22:26.400 um but yeah we you know jackson found this endemic in alberta and it's paid to play and
00:22:34.220 they'll give you more they'll offer pills that you don't even ask for there's going to be people
00:22:38.440 phoning you up asking for contact information um good for some good for saskatchewan but this
00:22:44.400 actually is a much bigger deal than um just in just in alberta it's continent wide uh the i did
00:22:53.400 little bit of scan on the you know good old internet and um there are think of three tiers
00:23:01.240 very common employees exaggerating illness seeking a convenient sick note which is i think where you
00:23:07.240 were where you then there's the occasional people doctor shopping for prescriptions but there are
00:23:14.920 also that's rare but they're also fake doctors you know this is an organized uh an organized
00:23:24.520 fraud ring and it's continent-wide this problem in the united states a lot of individual states
00:23:30.280 have clamped down on it have brought in specific legislation to make this kind of thing uh impossible
00:23:38.280 one wonders how successful they have been but you know the real sad thing about all this
00:23:45.480 but you ever take a sick day you ever taking a sick day i uh work from home but not a sick day
00:23:52.740 a lot of people think there's nothing wrong with this uh ripping off the employer
00:23:57.500 and work and staying home i assure you there is yeah there are a lot of people who think like that
00:24:03.980 And the sickness here, I mean, there's a sickness among people who will write you a prescription for a fee, whether you deserve it or not.
00:24:11.840 But the real sickness is people who are asking for it.
00:24:14.960 100%.
00:24:15.400 Kind of despicable.
00:24:16.600 And it's just, it looks like also to a degree what's happened is common, is a good program gone bad.
00:24:23.060 Like the intent is to get people out of clinics.
00:24:25.520 That's really taking up a lot of our front end health care.
00:24:27.780 And when you're sick, you don't want to go in.
00:24:29.080 With minor issues, whether it's sick days or prescriptions.
00:24:31.320 Like some of the moves were pretty good.
00:24:32.660 Like a pharmacist can now give some basic prescriptions.
00:24:36.420 You go in, you got a burning in an area.
00:24:37.840 Here's some tetracycline.
00:24:38.880 No sense taking up the doctor's time for that particular issue.
00:24:44.020 But that's still seeing a professional face-to-face.
00:24:47.980 I think we can't take away.
00:24:49.340 I mean, you know, nurse practitioners as well.
00:24:50.880 That's an area we're expanding where maybe you don't necessarily need a full doctor for some of these things as well.
00:24:55.500 Even sick days because that's somebody who can look at you, take your temperature, do a few things.
00:25:00.200 This phone-in thing I think is a real problem.
00:25:02.660 I mean, if you had walked in, I mean, this is a story about phone-in doctors, all right.
00:25:07.620 But if you had actually walked in, they'd have taken one look at you and said, well, what's the matter with you?
00:25:11.180 You're fine, yes.
00:25:11.900 You look fine to me.
00:25:12.660 Of course.
00:25:13.720 Well, and even the scary thing, I said I must stress this, is I really, like, again, if you watch the video,
00:25:19.160 there's some of the audio from my conversation with these doctors.
00:25:22.400 And I don't push.
00:25:23.600 I don't try.
00:25:24.300 I just say, well, I don't feel so great.
00:25:26.880 I don't.
00:25:27.380 Well, the order I gave to you was play hard to get.
00:25:29.280 Play hard to get, exactly.
00:25:30.160 Play hard to get.
00:25:30.680 See how much they offer you without you pressing.
00:25:32.380 So it's not even like you can, like, it's not even like you're trying or exaggerating
00:25:37.000 your symptoms and, oh, it's on the patient to lie.
00:25:40.480 It's the doctors facilitating it.
00:25:42.600 Or, you know, again, not all.
00:25:44.060 There's a place for this kind of system.
00:25:45.480 They don't get paid unless they're getting a note.
00:25:47.140 And you can sure turn over a heck of a lot with a phone and a system.
00:25:50.120 Just out of curiosity, have you any idea where's that little pack of the pulls?
00:25:53.620 I threw on the ground to keep it off camera.
00:25:55.980 Anyway, so what, 15 tablets?
00:25:58.040 What's that worth on the street?
00:26:00.000 That's a good question.
00:26:00.760 I'm not really sure.
00:26:01.520 That's the next story.
00:26:02.620 Yeah, I was going to say, get out there, start talking.
00:26:04.720 We can just walk right into the back alley here.
00:26:08.720 They'll give you a price list.
00:26:11.220 I've already given you orders to commit fraud for pills and sick notes.
00:26:14.600 Now I'm ordering you to beat a drug dealer.
00:26:17.160 Love the Western Stab.
00:26:18.200 I mean, we go bust and beyond here.
00:26:20.620 Once you get busted, we don't know you anymore.
00:26:22.800 No, if you don't go and sell them on the screen, it's here for a story.
00:26:25.900 We're going to have to pop these and drink it with audio wisers.
00:26:29.780 Next week.
00:26:30.220 Yeah.
00:26:31.520 Yeah, and just no reaction from the Alberta government you've contacted.
00:26:38.200 There's, I guess, kind of a variety of health ministers.
00:26:40.420 Just total silence.
00:26:41.440 I guess the College of Physicians and Surgeons has spoken out against it.
00:26:45.680 But silence from the government here.
00:26:48.820 Any idea why?
00:26:49.960 Reached out to the addictions minister and the health minister.
00:26:52.540 Didn't hear anything back from the addictions minister, which is a little concerning.
00:26:56.420 And the health minister, Basie, just said, oh, there you go.
00:27:00.360 Addicted to silence.
00:27:01.300 yeah but i've reached out to the health minister and basically just said we hope that doctors act
00:27:05.620 professional and and that was about the extent of the statement i got and and it is again it is i
00:27:11.540 i've heard back from the cpsa and that is good and i and i followed up with them to see if they'll
00:27:16.020 you know provide them the name of the of the physicians that i had and i hope that they
00:27:19.460 follow up with them to really eke out what is going on here but it is worrying that there's been
00:27:24.900 basically mum from the government and and like i said in saskatchewan obviously there must be
00:27:29.460 Maybe it was luck of the draw with Chris.
00:27:31.020 He got one that was actually sick to their guns and stuff.
00:27:35.080 This is not an attack on physicians or doctors.
00:27:37.520 We're not even sure that these people who may be these notes for prescriptions and sick notes,
00:27:41.000 we're not even sure that they were doctors.
00:27:42.880 We can't verify.
00:27:43.940 Well, there's enough to suggest that they are, but it's still like, again, it's still over the phone.
00:27:49.540 How can you be sure?
00:27:51.080 So, so.
00:27:52.020 Well, they can't be sure that you don't know who the person is.
00:27:53.640 Well, exactly.
00:27:54.440 It doesn't look like they are either.
00:27:55.640 I mean, you can call in with somebody else's information.
00:27:58.740 and presumably
00:28:00.960 get a prescription. There's no confirmation.
00:28:03.260 No, not at all. Well, I'm
00:28:04.940 going to have to update our internal policies here
00:28:06.880 on sick notes that it has
00:28:09.000 to be from a doctor in person.
00:28:12.760 You know, for all we know, the guys answering
00:28:15.060 giving these prescriptions and sick notes,
00:28:16.820 they could be sitting in Nigeria or Bangladesh
00:28:18.720 or something.
00:28:20.700 You know, give them a 403 number and wrote it through.
00:28:23.360 Yeah. Okay.
00:28:24.740 much more fun
00:28:28.880 so
00:28:30.680 Maddy
00:28:32.520 Gladue
00:28:33.800 she
00:28:36.960 she's been a conservative
00:28:39.560 MP for a few terms
00:28:40.820 Ontario MP
00:28:42.520 across the floor today
00:28:45.100 so she now sits with
00:28:47.520 the Liberal Government and Caucus
00:28:48.780 this brings the Liberals Nigel within
00:28:51.060 one seat of a majority
00:28:53.580 There are three by-elections taking place right now. The Liberals are guaranteed to take one, very likely to take a second, and stand a damn good chance in the third. I think for all intents and purposes, today is the first day of a Liberal majority government.
00:29:09.880 For all intents and purposes, you know, there's a lot of things about this that just really disappoint conservatives.
00:29:18.160 One is that there's some hypocrisy here.
00:29:21.020 Gladue had actually gone on the record.
00:29:24.900 I found this great little story.
00:29:27.260 We don't often get a chance to quote the small newspapers,
00:29:31.120 but I'll tell you about the Lambton Independent back there in Sarnia-Lambton.
00:29:38.120 but that i i can't pronounce that there's a third word b-k-e-g-w you know oh my goodness
00:29:45.560 so we got this little paper and they go out and they ask their mp the last time there was a
00:29:51.800 defection what she thinks about that and she uh she's told that paper uh allowing mp sorry she's
00:30:03.160 okay with if you quit and sit as an end in an independent but she's she quoted on the paper
00:30:10.040 selling really the whole point of being an mp is to represent your constituents so if they're voting
00:30:16.200 you in under one platform for you to switch for whatever reasons just seems to me to not be
00:30:24.200 representing what you're supposed to be there to represent in other words she's saying they should
00:30:30.280 go to a by-election well she is not going to a by-election she has gone and kissed the ring
00:30:35.000 i don't know what the deal is but uh at any rate she's not being true to what she said even three
00:30:40.760 months ago uh and in her area there was actually a actually a petition going around that there
00:30:49.880 should be by-elections of anybody crosses the floor so that's one thing i i think that she is
00:30:55.480 she's not a particularly good representative for her own point of view the other thing
00:30:59.080 I mean, what kind of a conservative are you if you dump your party?
00:31:05.360 You know?
00:31:07.260 There's five people have decided that they don't really have political convictions
00:31:13.920 and that if there's a good deal by crossing the floor,
00:31:17.200 like there isn't a good way to look at this.
00:31:19.820 It's just a shameful lack of principle.
00:31:23.820 I don't like floor-crossing discussions too much
00:31:26.940 because for the most part, everyone's view on floor-crossing quarry is
00:31:32.060 if it happens from another party to mine, it's a good thing.
00:31:35.000 If it happens from my party to another, it's a bad thing.
00:31:38.800 As Gladue herself essentially seems to demonstrate,
00:31:43.080 my colleague crossed the floor from the Conservatives to the Liberals,
00:31:45.620 that traitorous bastard, he should stand in a by-election or sit as an independent.
00:31:51.180 But when I do it, well, this is what my constituents want,
00:31:54.840 and I'm serving the community, blah, blah, blah.
00:31:56.240 it's always fine when it's yourself um and i know a lot of people probably most people watching
00:32:01.860 listening to this they're angry about this but here's the thing on our system you don't elect
00:32:07.260 parties and you don't elect prime ministers and leaders you elect mps so if you're upset about
00:32:14.700 this you should also pick it up with the leader who kind of recruited that person to run as a
00:32:22.880 candidate. Because
00:32:24.260 I know we all love the
00:32:26.700 MPs and MLAs on our own team, but here's
00:32:28.960 the fact. Most are bums and
00:32:30.780 hacks. Most of them, most people
00:32:33.080 Mark Hardy's not an example
00:32:35.040 of this, but for most people, it's the best job
00:32:36.760 they're ever going to have in their life. They're never going to make more money.
00:32:39.180 They're never going to be more important. They're never
00:32:40.900 going to be more recognized. This is
00:32:42.960 the pinnacle of their career. And you don't
00:32:44.940 even know who your own MP is most of the time.
00:32:47.800 She's been there for a while. I bet
00:32:48.960 you half the people in her writing probably don't even know who
00:32:50.900 she is. They're bums.
00:32:52.880 and hacks on both sides and there's a there's certainly a bunch of exceptions but this is
00:32:58.380 the default because leaders like bums and hacks as MPs and LAs because they're they're more
00:33:05.440 compliant um yeah you here's a little you could sit on this committee you could be shadow minister
00:33:11.380 of this you could be the parliamentary secretary that or if you behave really well you can be a
00:33:14.960 minister in government uh they're more pliable you know and and so this is part of the over
00:33:20.760 centralized party and leadership system that we have. This is one of the results
00:33:24.800 is that you're going to attract less
00:33:28.900 people to politics who are of strong conviction.
00:33:32.800 You know, you might like them or not, but you'll never see like, you know,
00:33:36.960 like a Scott Reed. He's an MP in the Ottawa Valley of rural Ontario,
00:33:40.820 hard right wing. You'll never see him cross the Liberals because he is
00:33:44.700 a hardcore conservative. His problem is that his party are a bunch of wimps.
00:33:49.360 So if he leaves, he would sit as an independent or join the PPC or something.
00:33:52.380 But he's never going to join the Liberals, no matter what they really offer him, because it's just too far past.
00:33:57.560 But we tend not to recruit people like this as candidates, because they're more problematic.
00:34:01.880 I like to think that case in Scott Reid's case, but if you look at Gladue's history, she's a blue Tory.
00:34:09.080 She was, most of her questions have been on ending the gun grab, on checking into vaccine injuries.
00:34:15.720 Well, you just have to slap down my whole point, my thesis right there.
00:34:18.060 But yeah, you got a point.
00:34:19.500 You got a point.
00:34:19.900 I mean, some of them, when we look at Jenneru,
00:34:22.080 he was always kind of a mushy red...
00:34:24.500 He's a hack.
00:34:25.100 Yes.
00:34:25.840 But she actually came from the unapologetic,
00:34:28.880 hardcore conservative.
00:34:30.380 And what I got to wonder about some of the consequences of this,
00:34:32.580 and I agree with you,
00:34:33.200 like the ability to cross the floor is important.
00:34:35.800 And I know we've had those discussions,
00:34:36.900 a lot of listeners will always get on.
00:34:38.240 And as much as it sucks,
00:34:39.120 it's actually key to the functioning constitution of a parliament.
00:34:42.240 It'll centralize the power even more if you get that away.
00:34:44.440 but uh in her case i think i have a feeling some liberals are could be too thrilled with having
00:34:50.040 them sit or sitting next to them either this isn't she has to sit with new democrats in the
00:34:53.720 caucus that are across the floor say her and steven cabot are in the same party now
00:34:57.720 the reek of the opportunism on her part uh the completely throwing away of everything she claimed
00:35:02.920 she stood for in the past like this is i i don't i agree like scott reed's well established i don't
00:35:08.680 think we would ever he would sit as an independent before we go i could be proven wrong but i i could
00:35:13.160 But she politically and ideologically was very much on the same bench as him.
00:35:17.900 Yeah, that's fair.
00:35:18.420 And she threw that to the wind because she wants, as you said, wants that more importance, a little more money, a few more committees to say, I'm a part of the government.
00:35:26.700 And it just creates so much cynicism among people.
00:35:29.560 This is what makes people throw their hands up, give up and not even vote at all, which is ineffective as voting might feel like not doing it at all will make it worse.
00:35:37.780 You know, changing the parties doesn't even really change the government very much.
00:35:41.080 But right now, the government itself could change even without an election.
00:35:44.500 To your point on her principles, she actually voted against the ban on conversion therapy, which sets her as a...
00:35:55.880 To the right of me.
00:35:57.000 Yeah.
00:35:57.720 So it wouldn't be surprising, and I don't know it as a case, it wouldn't be surprising if she was pro-life.
00:36:04.320 Because the two tend to go together, in which case she's now in a party that theoretically doesn't...
00:36:09.600 She's not allowed to be a part of.
00:36:10.980 not allowed to be a part of the other thing that you had to like about her at the time was that
00:36:15.460 she voted um voted for ending uh mandates during the covet area she called uh lifting the federal
00:36:24.300 vaccine mandates affecting travel and federally regulated workers was defeated of course but she
00:36:30.060 was on the right side so this is a there's more to this and i just do not frankly understand
00:36:36.080 Frailty as I name his woman
00:36:38.940 Jackson
00:36:40.940 It was just a few months ago
00:36:43.920 The Conservatives National Convention was in town
00:36:46.420 Polyev
00:36:47.480 Was pretty triumphant in his leadership review
00:36:50.260 I forget exactly what it was
00:36:51.480 But it was I think fairly high
00:36:52.700 87
00:36:53.280 Pretty solid
00:36:55.840 It was in Danielle Smith North Korean territory
00:36:58.200 But it was very strong
00:37:00.400 He seemed unassailable
00:37:02.320 But the floor crossings had already started
00:37:06.260 Some of us around the office, myself included, were speculating that floor crossing could happen during the convention to try and demoralize everyone while they're there.
00:37:14.120 That didn't happen, but generally, I think, went right after the convention.
00:37:20.360 He's passed his leadership review vote solidly, but that is never a guarantee you actually make it to the next election.
00:37:26.880 And I've generally considered theories that, you know, he'd be ousted to be fantastical, kind of dug forward, projecting, wanting things to happen rather than actually sober analysis of things.
00:37:40.160 But today's the first day where I've at least allowed a little bit of doubt that, huh, it's been four or five now.
00:37:48.460 That's a lot.
00:37:49.640 you know think back
00:37:52.240 when Daniel Smith was the Wild Rose leader
00:37:54.140 Corey remember this
00:37:54.940 she triumphed in her leadership
00:37:58.140 review vote
00:37:58.840 but right after she had two floor crossings against
00:38:02.180 her and a month and a half
00:38:04.280 after that she crossed the floor
00:38:05.980 with two thirds of the caucus
00:38:07.120 the bottom fell out in a nuclear
00:38:09.760 spectacular fashion
00:38:11.300 you know
00:38:13.900 you've
00:38:14.360 in Alberta Ed Stelmack
00:38:17.860 passed his leadership review
00:38:19.140 months later, gone.
00:38:21.740 Allison Redford passed her leadership review
00:38:23.640 months to a year later,
00:38:25.940 gone. Passing a leadership review
00:38:27.500 gets you through a major
00:38:29.660 hurdle
00:38:30.060 that you have to cross, but it doesn't guarantee you make it
00:38:33.660 to the next election.
00:38:35.820 I don't know. What do you think the chances
00:38:37.620 are now, as these numbers
00:38:39.800 continue to pile up
00:38:41.880 that eventually it's just
00:38:43.680 going to be, you know, the caucus
00:38:45.420 could say, you've got the support of the members
00:38:47.440 generally, and we love you.
00:38:49.140 but clearly the center can't hold here.
00:38:52.140 You got to go.
00:38:53.040 I just think like,
00:38:54.200 it's a really unfortunate time for Polly.
00:38:55.820 So I think because,
00:38:56.860 you know,
00:38:57.480 he,
00:38:57.640 he had the leadership review and he's trying no more softer approach or
00:39:02.360 more,
00:39:02.660 you know,
00:39:02.820 he's not,
00:39:03.100 he's,
00:39:03.260 he said he doesn't want to attack Carney as he did Trudeau,
00:39:05.660 which I think is something that probably will benefit him.
00:39:08.820 And we've seen his polling numbers kind of stabilize around 34,
00:39:11.340 35%,
00:39:11.980 which historically is that's,
00:39:13.600 that's election winning numbers for the,
00:39:16.080 for a conservative party or close to it anyways,
00:39:17.960 minority numbers.
00:39:19.140 Do I think he, I really couldn't say like, because when you look at the kind of the coalition that Mark Carney is building, he's trying to match that.
00:39:31.540 I think he's trying to match that sort of calm leadership that Carney is now sort of generating.
00:39:38.520 But I, like at least with, when you look at the NDP, I don't agree with the leader they've elected, but at least that's something that Carney, that's a base Carney does not have.
00:39:49.140 he does not have that left wing base poly of now is with as more people sort of even the more like
00:39:57.460 socially conservative people like gladdo who are now migrating to carney's party it's it's going
00:40:02.100 to be increasingly difficult for him to justify what his policies are what why he's different
00:40:07.860 what makes him an attractive candidate to vote for instead of the liberal party which i wouldn't have
00:40:12.420 said two years ago when he was polling
00:40:14.500 at 47%.
00:40:16.720 We all saw
00:40:18.040 Polyev on Joe Rogan
00:40:20.360 experience, and a lot
00:40:22.440 of people commented that this was
00:40:24.460 a new statesman-like, this was the grown-up
00:40:26.580 Polyev, doing his best
00:40:28.540 to give the dad vibes
00:40:30.680 that
00:40:31.280 Mark Carney might give,
00:40:35.020 depending on who you're talking to.
00:40:37.440 Certainly more dad
00:40:38.500 vibes than say Justin Trudeau would project.
00:40:40.740 That's easy. But
00:40:41.980 um you know he was talking about uh you know the liberals taking his policies is like that's good
00:40:47.200 i want them to steal my policies but does he want them does he want the liberals to steal his mps
00:40:55.040 this is a lot now this is a lot this is not just you know you can't just say hey this was just
00:41:01.740 this one miscontent and caucus and we're glad that guy's gone this is a lot now as cory said
00:41:09.660 And Gladue, you know, as he said in blowing up my thesis around who crosses floors, this was not fitting the profile of, say, a Matt Jenner, who's like a really red Tory, kind of a political hack and a swing riding.
00:41:24.600 That, this is different.
00:41:26.980 So, you know, like, as we're sitting here, as I was just saying that, I got a text from a friend of mine.
00:41:33.520 I won't just give their name on here.
00:41:35.700 This is a Polyev supporter.
00:41:37.080 This is a fairly significant conservative in Alberta.
00:41:39.660 And he says, it's over for PP.
00:41:43.140 I won't go that far yet, but I'll say today is the first day where I've thought post-election,
00:41:48.820 his job is not guaranteed until the next vote.
00:41:52.860 Well, you know, I kind of, I understand what you're saying,
00:41:57.360 but I think there's something wrong with the way that the Conservative Party has chosen its candidates.
00:42:03.200 um you we all know that a lot of strings were pulled to certain put certain people in place
00:42:11.120 those have not necessarily gone well and at this time we have a few more scott reeds and a few less
00:42:16.500 people who just don't conservative because they think it's the thing to do to your point the uh
00:42:23.660 it's a little early to call it yet but uh just as pierre has been the victim of a lot of bad luck
00:42:31.340 he can also become the victim of some good luck courtesy of mr lewis he made the point that that's
00:42:36.700 a base that mr carney doesn't have well you know what mr carney actually won about two million
00:42:42.740 and maybe a little more two million ndp votes to put his majority together
00:42:48.340 abby lewis is almost a socialist out of central casting and i think the nutters will come back to
00:42:58.120 him and give him a lot of steam now it's going to take a few months before we see that but i think
00:43:03.720 the ndp is going to come storming back they're all mad what they're proposing is is rubbish
00:43:12.520 but it sounds so good if you are a commie you know we are going to have free groceries we are going
00:43:21.880 to make the rich pay you know but wouldn't those people already be the the ndp base who voted who
00:43:26.920 were the 7% and 6% they got in the last
00:43:29.080 election. I feel like all this does is just
00:43:30.720 consolidate that base to Lewis.
00:43:33.740 We got to move on to
00:43:34.920 parting shots though
00:43:35.660 because we are out of time. But since
00:43:38.960 I had to cut Jackson off there,
00:43:40.920 Jackson gets first parting shot. Although I didn't even tell you
00:43:43.020 to prepare one. No. Well, I'll say something.
00:43:45.160 I think that it'll be interesting to see in
00:43:46.960 just going off the Polly and stuff here.
00:43:49.860 There's been lots of talk about
00:43:51.000 I did an analysis piece a couple weeks back
00:43:52.960 when the Nunavut MP
00:43:54.860 from the NDP cross the floor to the Liberals.
00:43:57.200 And I just think, obviously,
00:43:58.860 Carney has been, he's been soaring right now
00:44:00.980 in the polls and he's, you know,
00:44:03.120 got seemingly the mandate of heaven at the
00:44:04.960 minute with all these floor crosses and everything.
00:44:07.500 But that's with the
00:44:08.780 public perception that he has
00:44:10.520 a minority.
00:44:12.960 So I wonder if maybe this public perception will
00:44:14.840 change once he has a majority
00:44:16.640 and if he's unable to do the things he's promised.
00:44:18.840 I just, I wonder if that will happen. And that's something
00:44:20.820 that I really think maybe
00:44:22.720 Paul is banking on. I don't know.
00:44:24.180 I think when the next election comes, he's going to say he needs a strong, stable, majority, carny government.
00:44:31.420 Corey?
00:44:32.480 There's an ideological shift that has been happening in Congress City Hall.
00:44:36.120 They actually reversed the blanket rezoning, which was the hallmark of the Gondek government there, I guess you could say.
00:44:42.740 And I just reminded people, watch Mike Thomas.
00:44:44.360 He's been covering this, and this actually happened.
00:44:46.760 We're going to see what becomes of that next, though, because people don't watch their municipal politics closely enough.
00:44:52.640 And, hey, the Western Standards actually hit really well at City Hall.
00:44:55.580 Indeed.
00:44:57.480 Sometimes it's the little things that give away the bigger picture.
00:45:00.620 And Carney thinks, Prime Minister Carney, given his due,
00:45:04.100 thinks it's a big deal that a Canadian spoke French en route to the moon.
00:45:08.920 He actually put out a press release saying, what a good thing, a historic.
00:45:13.580 Meanwhile, the Canadian in question, good man, I have no doubt,
00:45:17.040 but he's sitting in an American-made spaceship funded by the American taxpayer.
00:45:22.640 And if all goes well, it's about to be plucked out of the Pacific by the U.S. Navy.
00:45:27.780 Now, if he had to speak French at all, maybe Mr. Carney could have just said,
00:45:35.260 Merci, Monsieur Trump.
00:45:37.100 You know, how do we manage to make a French moment out of an American achievement?
00:45:41.600 It's just a little sad.
00:45:44.720 I think you're missing the bigger picture here.
00:45:46.500 This is Quebec's plan to establish a colony on the moon.
00:45:49.860 They can go.
00:45:50.380 the the the language bill 101 and language laws will be in effect on the mission
00:45:59.120 okay uh i just want to give uh note to uh poll came out uh just the other day showing a slim
00:46:07.100 majority 53 ish percent of canadians polled say that they believe canada should join the european
00:46:14.600 union i think as you put it before we came on uh i think it was you and i just say before we uh
00:46:19.100 before we started recording was that uh you know file us under polling for stupid um i mean it's a
00:46:24.640 hypothetical almost certainly would never happen but you know we are in a crazy world where things
00:46:31.020 are in wild flux i would say never i think it's highly improbable but uh i i just and if you look
00:46:39.740 at you know the cross tabs here you know it's it tends to be like boomer liberals who like the idea
00:46:44.860 of joining the EU.
00:46:46.200 I think they visited Europe
00:46:47.560 when Europe was still European,
00:46:48.840 so they're probably remembering it
00:46:49.740 more fondly than it should be at this point.
00:46:51.560 Yeah.
00:46:53.320 But, you know,
00:46:54.720 this is the elbows-up crowd
00:46:56.220 that is terrified
00:46:57.740 of becoming the 51st state.
00:47:00.800 I don't think that would be a good thing.
00:47:02.320 I don't want to join the states,
00:47:03.800 but I didn't take Trump
00:47:04.680 particularly seriously about it,
00:47:06.560 even if I think it was kind of
00:47:07.880 a glint in his eye
00:47:08.460 of something he'd like.
00:47:10.200 These people freaked out
00:47:11.680 about the idea of joining
00:47:13.100 the United States
00:47:14.160 that we're joined at the hip to,
00:47:15.860 but the idea of just surrendering our sovereignty
00:47:18.000 to a supra-national federation
00:47:19.940 that's even worse and even more
00:47:22.100 dysfunctional than the United States,
00:47:24.720 I...
00:47:25.320 I need to move
00:47:28.160 to the moon. I clearly
00:47:30.000 just don't belong with PCM.
00:47:31.480 This is a parting barrage.
00:47:33.160 Yeah. Parting rocket.
00:47:36.400 Okay. I agree with you.
00:47:38.200 Nigel, Corey, Jackson, thank you very much.
00:47:40.460 Thank you. Thank you for John running
00:47:41.900 the studio today.
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