Western Standard - July 09, 2026


From pipelines to submarines: Is Carney alienating his base?


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00:00:00.000 good afternoon it is yeah it is
00:00:29.620 afternoon um hey thanks for accommodating uh we moved the show an hour ahead today normally we go
00:00:37.180 on live at 1 p.m but i'm on at noon today the main reason for that is uh as soon as we're done this
00:00:43.940 show john the producer he's got to pack up a bunch of things and then head on down to the i believe
00:00:49.920 it's the glenmore the old glenmore hotel or the glenbo no the old glenmore hotel has got to go
00:00:55.880 get set up for the debate right so today tonight or this evening is the debate between uh our boss
00:01:02.860 derek and uh mr duane bratt from uh duane is a professor of political science at mount royal
00:01:11.060 university so that's going on tonight um 300 plus tickets have been sold out have been sold for this
00:01:18.120 event there's still a chance you can yeah there's the there's the logo or there's the poster on the
00:01:23.440 website right now you can still get to uh some tickets for tonight uh listen shout out to to
00:01:30.240 duane for doing it well to both guys to derrick and duane but you know to me me honestly i think
00:01:36.000 that it's uh almost an untenable position uh i i wish i could be there tonight unfortunately i'm
00:01:42.280 gonna i have to other commitments today but i haven't heard anybody come up with a good argument
00:01:47.200 on why albertans should stay in this failed experiment called confederation by the way i
00:01:52.660 give a quick uh quick story about duane actually um he's a political science professor at the mount
00:01:58.980 royal and uh you guys know that i was sitting on the side of the road for uh you know hundreds of
00:02:04.820 hours this this past winter canvassing collecting signatures right and i would often get these young
00:02:11.300 people like in their 19 20 21 range come by and i could tell that they were coming to challenge me
00:02:17.460 me and have a debate with a separatist right and i had humor them i'd engage in the debate and then
00:02:23.360 and then more than once i i you know shook hands with the i call them kids having a debate with me
00:02:29.340 and then i said say hi to duane for me uh when you go back and submit your essay because i could sort
00:02:35.260 of tell during that petition campaigning uh or that petition collection period that the duane
00:02:41.280 and others were sending people to to challenge us anyways um yeah so that's today that's why we're
00:02:48.480 moving and and um otherwise yeah look at me all cowboyed up today right you could tell it's
00:02:55.600 stampede i i take the train downtown and i like you can tell it's stampede right now i should have
00:03:02.080 taken a picture because it is just a sea of cowboy hats on the train and the other this is unfortunate
00:03:09.200 though it shouldn't happen only because of this but the other way you can tell it's also stampede
00:03:13.820 is uh the trains are clean and there's uh beefed up security and and that's a sad reality you know
00:03:21.280 the fact that we have to um clean up our trains because they're so dirty some days with all the
00:03:27.260 the the homeless people on the train kind of sad all right uh hey i think we got a busy busy busy
00:03:35.120 i got a busy topic list here i got a lot of things i want to talk about remember last week uh we were
00:03:41.040 just a little too early the pipeline announcement came out last week after the show and boy oh boy
00:03:46.720 what a surprise we didn't get just one pipeline we got two we got two pipelines we got a data
00:03:52.640 center we got a power plant so i want to talk about that um we got we got everybody jumping on
00:03:59.040 suddenly everybody wants alberta to be on team canada that that's kind of a topic in and of
00:04:04.560 itself um i want to talk about the feedback to the pipelines both here locally and i've done a round
00:04:12.960 of uh social media interviews so um there's i'm hearing more negative than good when it comes to
00:04:20.320 these pipelines uh money going to ukraine uh i'll give an update on the signature counts uh
00:04:27.520 uh uh a few other things so but but as as always as always i always say this this is a show we're
00:04:35.120 trying to do a call-in show so it's a show about you guys so call in numbers down there on the
00:04:40.720 screen and just i mean bounce any subject off of me let's let's have a chat reminder we don't have
00:04:47.760 a switchboard and actually another reminder when you call and you're and you're on hold on the line
00:04:54.240 but you're also listening to the show there's sometimes like a five second delay right so
00:05:01.440 you guys have seen me when i'm when i'm sitting here and going hello caller and then it sounds
00:05:05.280 like there's nobody talking there that's because somebody's listening on sort of watching the
00:05:10.240 screen and not paying attention to their phone so you know just uh just be aware of that if you're
00:05:15.040 calling and you're on hold uh keep listening on your phone kind of thing so uh all right well
00:05:20.720 let's go let's start then with um let's start with the pipelines right so we got a big announcement
00:05:26.880 from uh danielle smith the the first announcement let's break it down so the first announcement was
00:05:32.240 a pipeline to the west coast and um for all intense purposes i'm calling this one trans
00:05:42.480 mountain three right so you have the original trans mountain that leaves you know the edmonton
00:05:47.360 area hardesty and then goes all the way down to um to vancouver basically and delivers oil there
00:05:54.160 that's been operating since the 1950s since 1953 chosen in the 50s because it was an ideal path
00:06:02.400 easy through some low points in the mountains took advantage of existing other infrastructures
00:06:07.680 like power lines and roads and stuff like that so a preferred path trans mountain original pipeline
00:06:14.000 operating since the 1950s fundamentally operating without incident since the 1950s like kudos what
00:06:21.520 an accomplishment right a 70 plus year old pipeline still running today then you fast forward you know
00:06:28.080 60 years later kinder morgan proposes trans mountain x expansion tmx uh proposes a pipeline
00:06:37.440 for about seven billion dollars and then just boom gets hit with hurdle after hurdle after hurdle
00:06:44.320 right so ottawa is imposing uh very rigid regulatory compliance rigid environmental
00:06:52.800 uh emission caps and standards almost impossible negotiations consultation with third with first
00:07:01.360 nations social acceptability is is is down in the in the tanks everybody's like hardcore on board
00:07:08.960 with climate change everybody's predicting the end of oil there's people saying we don't need
00:07:13.360 this pipeline etc etc etc and trudeau comes along and goes out of his way to kill it and finally
00:07:21.580 everybody realizes oh no we need this pipeline right oil is actually more important to alberta
00:07:28.420 canada's economy overall then then then we want to admit so we need this pipeline kinder morton
00:07:36.020 is about to give up notley convinces trudeau to buy it to form a crown corporation to buy the
00:07:43.700 pipeline and build it so that's how we end up with t transmount today as it exists is a crown
00:07:51.700 corporation and the sad story of that whole event is we started out with a private company that
00:07:58.180 wanted to build a pipeline their estimate was about seven or ten billion dollars that's a legit
00:08:04.900 inline estimate i work for trans canada on keystone and energies well i'll touch on that
00:08:09.860 later but we built keystone in line with that kind of cost and that's the kind of cost that
00:08:15.220 makes a pipeline like that beneficial i could go in long details with that but a pipeline a a
00:08:21.700 a thousand kilometer pipeline through the mountains delivering half a million barrels a day if you
00:08:26.340 build it for for 10 12 billion bucks you'll get your money back the private sector will do it
00:08:32.820 it's efficient it's good it's worth doing but after the liberals got involved in this mess
00:08:39.860 transmount ended up being a call it 40 billion dollar fiasco it took longer than expected to
00:08:47.620 build the consultation was out of this world the compliance the inefficiencies the delays
00:08:54.500 the the restarts everything it was just a brutal pipeline and it's finally been in operation now
00:09:00.500 since about uh just over a year ago it's just getting ramped up finally hitting its peak it's
00:09:06.980 producing at the capacity it's supposed to produce i went and looked at trans mountains financial
00:09:11.940 results for last year in 2025 trans mountain as a crown corporation that is recently formed and
00:09:20.260 purchased a 35 or 40 billion dollar pipeline made get this 500 million bucks okay so do the math
00:09:29.140 500 million bucks 500 million bucks you need to do that for 80 years to break even on your
00:09:36.740 on your initial investment so um so trans mountain 2 tmx crown corporation is not a good project
00:09:47.300 so we have two pipelines in the same corridor well the announcement last week is basically for
00:09:52.180 all intense purposes trans mountain three so it's the same it's the same path slightly bigger now
00:09:59.220 we're talking we're they're immediately talking about a million barrels and they're bouncing
00:10:04.580 around similar numbers so so the smith and carney stood on the podium and announced that they were
00:10:12.660 submitting to the major projects office here in calgary a proposal for this pipeline
00:10:18.340 for and their estimate was already in the 40 billion dollar range i think it's going to be
00:10:23.220 more than that because we've already seen the trans mountain was 40. i mean if they in the
00:10:29.060 perfect world they should have learned lessons from building trans mountain too because they
00:10:32.580 just did it we just finished building it in uh in 2024 so hopefully they learned lessons i don't
00:10:37.940 think they did i think it's going to be a 50 60 80 billion dollar project if it gets built but and
00:10:46.500 and and think about also simultaneously think about this why didn't we put two lines in the
00:10:51.780 ditch when we were building tmx like two three years ago because we used to do that with other
00:10:57.700 some of the companies i work for you run a pipeline in you install it you connect it but
00:11:01.860 But while you got that trench open and you got your right of way all cleared and you're working on it, you can put another line in parallel right there.
00:11:08.980 And you don't have to tie it in, but you can leave it there until the day you need it.
00:11:12.700 And then that, you know, when you need it a couple of years down the road or three years down the road, you connect it and you can double your capacity at that point.
00:11:19.500 Because when you're talking about pipelines, it's not necessarily like the materials themselves, the steel and whatnot, that's about 25, 30 percent of the cost of your entire pipeline.
00:11:29.220 the rest of it is in the engineering and the labor the digging the ditches the reclaim you know all
00:11:34.180 of that work anyways so now we get this announcement last week um and and and we get the announcement
00:11:41.140 that we're getting a pipeline now i said smith and carney they're smith and carney were there
00:11:47.140 and this is part of the mou there was one other partner but they were pretty quiet right the other
00:11:51.940 part there is supposedly a private investor interested in this and that's pemina pipeline
00:11:57.940 so pembina is a local alberta company that's grown pretty big they're a midstreamer they don't produce
00:12:04.900 uh and they don't have gas stations they're in the middle they have they have pipelines all over the
00:12:09.220 province they the pembina pipeline and pembina has gone bigger they've amalgamated they've bought out
00:12:15.540 competitors and they're they're a decent sized company and they were at the they were on the
00:12:19.620 podium for a 10 share so they said they're willing to put in a 10 share uh or finance 10
00:12:27.620 of the cost but they're basically a silent partner the engineering the operations everything else is
00:12:32.580 trans mountain and when you read pembina's press release they give themselves a huge uh wide open
00:12:39.540 uh get out clause right so they they say they'll only commit to 10 after they've reviewed all the
00:12:48.260 other parties work and if they approve it then they're on board for 10. they said they might go
00:12:52.100 as high as 20 but they leave themselves a huge door to get out and they also say that they will
00:12:57.300 not commit a single penny in this phase so they're not involved in the development the the the
00:13:03.940 negotiations the finding shippers all of that so they're pretty silent on this whole deal and i
00:13:10.260 found pemina's involvement in this whole deal a little bit interesting until you see some of the
00:13:16.740 other announcements that occurred simultaneously or almost nearly simultaneously right so almost
00:13:22.900 simultaneously we heard um danielle smith announced that pembina was building a don't
00:13:32.980 quote me on this but i think it was about a 1.5 megawatt power plant up near the edmonton area
00:13:38.980 so that's all we heard last week that's the announcement we got was that pemina was getting
00:13:42.820 a power plant so i'm like okay this is interesting pemina is getting a power plant obviously they're
00:13:49.780 they're getting a fast track power plant in exchange for standing on the podium for this
00:13:55.700 really bad pipeline that's my opinion by the way i think i'm pretty clear on that i think that i'd
00:14:00.900 love to have a pipeline okay i want another pipeline i mean alberta produces five million
00:14:05.380 barrels of oil per day we can easily ramp that up to six seven eight million in the in in the coming
00:14:11.960 years the world the whole planet consumes about 105 million barrels per day so you know we're
00:14:21.240 we're contributing 120th like we're providing five percent not even five percent four percent of the
00:14:26.920 world's oil demand comes from alberta we could jack it up to eight nine percent uh that'd be
00:14:33.000 fantastic for us it'd be fantastic for the planet for other is countries that are trying to you know
00:14:40.520 get away from coal and other bad um worse forms of hydrocarbons they will lift people out of poverty
00:14:47.160 it's a win-win right and when you look at that and i've talked about this many times also in
00:14:51.400 the past when you look at the world's consumption of oil and you have you have groups that keep
00:14:55.560 talking about peak oil i could show you that peak production like that that production of oil is
00:15:01.000 going up and up and up sorry not the production the consumption of oil has gone up and up and up
00:15:05.240 it's at 105 and when you put a trend line through the world's consumption of oil i can't see the
00:15:11.400 peak i don't see it flattening out any time in the near future because normally when you look
00:15:16.040 at trends of data they start to bend like that and you can sort of predict a peak but when you're
00:15:20.440 looking at a trend of data that's going in a straight line there's no bending so peak oil is
00:15:26.200 not anywhere around the corners not for another decade not for another 20 years 30 years i'll
00:15:31.480 even say so there's nothing wrong with us building another pipeline we should but i'm opposed to
00:15:38.520 building a pipeline that's paid for by the taxpayers that's done super inefficiently
00:15:43.800 that just becomes a money pit right i think it's a it's a it's it's a bad deal to spend 30 billion
00:15:51.320 this pipeline should be done by the private sector and the fact that the private sector
00:15:56.920 is not stepping up that's the problem that's the problem that needs to be addressed that's
00:16:01.560 the problem i wish that danielle smith instead of just cozying up with mark carney i wish she
00:16:07.800 was challenging him like she like we've heard her say in the past right when she provided her not
00:16:13.160 her her nine items her almost her uh ultimatum like remove the carbon cap remove the tanker
00:16:19.560 band remove all those things and and we're we're stuck with this mou which as far as i'm concerned
00:16:24.840 is a chicken and egg thing carney's saying i'm i might remove some of these rules if you find the
00:16:29.640 investors the investor is saying we might come on board if you remove the rules i think the best
00:16:34.920 place for the in in that loop which we're stuck in it's carney's job to break that loop if carney
00:16:41.560 was absolutely serious about moving this country forward advancing major projects and and kick
00:16:49.880 starting the economy he would remove some of these silly barriers like the tanker ban and and he would
00:16:56.520 he would recognize that the pipeline's already going down an energy corridor that we've already
00:17:00.760 done a ton of consultation with first nations that we don't need to do any further consultation
00:17:04.840 he would he would fast track this project in a real way in the private sector would get in for
00:17:10.440 and and do it today for maybe 15 billion dollars and then that would be a win win win win but the
00:17:16.280 way this deal is done right now it's lose lose lose loops so then let's go back to pembina so
00:17:22.120 pembina is uh stands on the podium with a ton of conditions they agree to have their picture taken
00:17:27.720 smile for the camera and then we learn that they're getting a power plant and when i first
00:17:31.800 heard about them getting a power plant my immediate reaction was quite interesting why are we building
00:17:38.040 a power plant in alberta right now because in alberta um for all intense purposes there is
00:17:46.040 no shortage of electricity i mean the the our entire grid can produce about 21 megawatts and
00:17:54.040 we consume at best 13 to 14 in like the deepest cold days of winter so we're we're we're in an
00:18:01.640 over over supply we got lots of power and uh and uh so i was just thinking okay well maybe
00:18:08.120 pemina still being at the you know uh smart about this i mean they're it'll take a couple
00:18:13.320 years they're anticipating some growth uh they might as well build a plant and uh have it ready
00:18:19.240 to go when when you need it so i i thought it was a smart deal until i saw what happened this week
00:18:24.200 now this week we found out why pemina oh and there was another part i was wondering why pemina was
00:18:29.320 wanting to build a power plant and i was also curious as to why they were building it in the
00:18:33.640 area right they're building it in uh in the strathcona area like a fort saskatchewan part
00:18:39.480 of the world and um not i mean there's some growth there there's some industry but we saw
00:18:45.880 the announcement today meta which is the parent company of facebook announced that they're going
00:18:52.360 going to build a big ai data center now i don't know if that means it's a center that's just going
00:19:00.300 to store information or it's going to be a campus not quite sure i think fundamentally it's just a
00:19:06.740 big data storage hub and these things these big giant data hubs for ai they require a lot of power
00:19:14.360 all those servers all those computers need to be powered but they also need to be cooled i don't
00:19:19.860 if you've ever noticed but uh your your little your laptop computer has a little fan is and is
00:19:25.460 often humming the more horsepower you have in your computer you know if you have a series three chip
00:19:30.820 you get a little bit of heat coming off but if you got a series five or seven they can generate quite
00:19:36.420 a bit of heat so these big giant data centers they're they're uh high demand for power they're
00:19:43.540 power hogs but they're also need a lot of cooling and they're that's why they're being promoted in
00:19:48.820 places like alberta because we have the power not necessarily not the power they want that
00:19:56.660 everybody would prefer that they were powered by hydropower but we can provide power but more
00:20:01.640 importantly we have the cooling apparently you know you can you can get away with a lot of cooling of
00:20:06.560 these facilities in the winter when the ambient temperatures here drop in the summer you have to
00:20:10.980 rely on on rivers which is why some people are opposed to these so in that part of the world
00:20:15.860 the river i guess is the uh north saskatchewan river and probably the uh athabasca and that
00:20:21.860 whole watershed so there's quite a bit of water um the water is not being diverted and taken out
00:20:27.700 of the serve system but it's being used to cool and um so that that will have an impact on the
00:20:32.900 environment me personally i kind of worry about data centers and the ai implication i you know
00:20:42.740 i i think ai is a dangerous game changer that's going to eliminate a lot of jobs but i guess if
00:20:50.340 you're it's an inevitable technology and we might as well have it close to us where we can control
00:20:56.020 it and monitor so anyways you you you see i mean when you start to break it down you see last week's
00:21:02.500 deal and you just go wow you know a lot of horse trading that happened there right well the horse
00:21:07.860 trading goes on and on it continues right because um the pipeline proposed goes through british
00:21:15.940 columbia and british columbia has been opposed to pipelines right david eby has been one of
00:21:20.180 the biggest opponents to pipeline and now there's avi lewis the leader of the ndp he's opposed to
00:21:25.780 pipeline so he's he they both the avi piped up but look at the horse trading that happened last week
00:21:33.060 all of a sudden david eby is asked you know microphone held to his face how do you feel
00:21:38.100 about this pipeline and surprise surprise he basically said well i'll respect whatever the
00:21:46.180 process i won't fight it i won't oppose it he basically completely stepped back from his earlier
00:21:53.460 stance but what happened in british columbia to david eby almost a day before this pipeline
00:22:00.580 announcement carney flew to bc first before coming to alberta to make the announcement
00:22:06.260 and what announcement did carney do in bc this last week he announced like a pretty sweet 2.3
00:22:13.460 billion dollar bailout of the condo industry in that province in vancouver in particular
00:22:19.700 he also announced a similar bailout in in toronto but so now you're like oh okay so everybody's
00:22:27.060 being bought out so so eb got bought out by with this condo deal which is again bad for us bad for
00:22:34.260 us because uh these speculators come in they they they they build condos on speculation they drive
00:22:41.740 up the market and now the market is correcting itself and the and the prices are coming down
00:22:47.660 and what do we do we reward these speculators by bailing them out no we should have let them fail
00:22:53.320 by the way carney's on the record there's an interview of carney from like i don't know 2012
00:22:57.500 talking about um his experience with the crash of 2018 and so forth and talking about how
00:23:04.820 he really wanted to let the the the banks at that time fail so car you know anyways i don't want to
00:23:12.620 go in there but so now you got this whole horse trading that went on last week and
00:23:17.240 i gotta bring it back it's this this is such a it's so crazy this story right so now i'm bringing
00:23:26.000 it back so uh we we we're just digesting this deal we're digesting this deal i start doing uh
00:23:33.940 a tour uh not a physical tour but i started being interviewed on social media uh i did a couple of
00:23:41.820 French podcast I got a couple of French CBC interviews because I speak French and I have
00:23:49.100 experience with the pipeline and I was remarkably shocked yeah yeah maybe yeah maybe not shocked
00:23:58.660 yeah shock surprise not surprise surprise Quebecers are mad right Quebecers are pissed off at this
00:24:05.700 deal because uh remember gilbo quit the caucus actually gilbo at first quit uh the cabinet and
00:24:14.900 then he went as far as quitting caucus like stepping down as an as an mp because he was so
00:24:20.400 opposed so pissed off at what carney was doing and a lot of quebecers in general view it the same way
00:24:26.500 they view this deal this announcement that we're getting a pipeline through several lenses one of
00:24:31.960 lenses they view it as is they're strongly still support uh still believe in man-made climate
00:24:39.640 change and believe in in in their technology that the planet should go with electricity which they
00:24:45.240 have in abundance they're totally against hydrocarbons and they and they know that
00:24:50.760 fundamentally canada is not meeting its emission targets and they see carny giving in and and
00:24:57.240 accepting a pipeline as a betrayal that's one then they see it as an even bigger slap in the
00:25:05.720 face when they learn that the pipeline is at this in its configuration as presented right now would
00:25:11.880 be a um another crown corporation funded by tax dollars and quebecers will are using this and
00:25:20.280 saying listen we bought you one pipeline so why are we buying you a second because in their mind
00:25:26.280 a lot of them do think that they are subsidizing our industry so they're pissed off and so that's
00:25:32.760 the one part i have a hard time wrapping my mind no i don't have a hard time wrapping my mind around
00:25:37.160 it i can wrap my mind around this so why why is carney taking a chance right now and alienating
00:25:46.120 his base in quebec well i think the reason he's doing that is because he's finally
00:25:54.680 realizing that the separatist movement in this province has teeth and is real and so he has to
00:26:04.040 come here and deal with the separatist problem so of all the problems that he has to deal with
00:26:09.020 temporarily right now what are carney's problems right he's got a trade war with the u.s
00:26:15.140 uh a disagreement with donald trump and a separatist party in alberta and a small one
00:26:21.800 quebec but that that's it beyond that he doesn't have a lot of other problems to deal with so
00:26:26.360 and on the trade front he's he uh trump is not renegotiating uh the the canada u.s mexico trade
00:26:34.760 deal right now so that's on hold trump's pissed off at him he wants him to he wants us to keep
00:26:40.680 spending more of our gdp on defense we'll we'll get to that in a minute so what's carney's number
00:26:46.280 one problem that surfaced on his list of problems right now it's independence in alberta with this
00:26:50.680 upcoming um independent independence referendum it's also danielle's sort of number one problem
00:26:57.720 so again the mou which is a shitty piece of legislature this is mou part two it's junk it's
00:27:04.680 alienating the east but carney it shows that carney is truly starting to worry about the
00:27:12.280 separatist movement in this province so he's extending more than the mou he's he's it's a
00:27:17.320 a bigger olive branch trying to appease us with this pipeline which is why i'm talking about it
00:27:23.340 in so much detail because i think the pipeline is a crap deal to start with i think it's it's
00:27:29.700 it's disingenuous i don't think they'll ever build one anyways and uh i'm pretty sure that if
00:27:36.120 uh we were to lose the referendum in october then you'll see that this pipeline will never
00:27:42.600 get built and then carney will go back to quebec to his base and say please forgive me i i wasn't
00:27:51.640 serious when i did these deals i i i was only trying to keep the country together make sure
00:27:57.800 that the equalization doesn't get um affected and uh please forgive me and and continue to support
00:28:06.040 me that's that's my play on so that's one pipeline that's just the first pipeline we got last week
00:28:13.060 listen folks i've talked for a lot i mean there's something you gotta have an opinion on some of
00:28:17.840 this or is what i'm saying you're just taking it all in and digesting that's cool if that's what
00:28:22.340 you're doing today that's fine uh or maybe i caught everybody off guard with the one hour shift
00:28:27.480 uh the phone number is there on the screen right uh call call me or call the number there and uh
00:28:34.840 John our producer will put you on hold or put you right through if you call right now you probably
00:28:39.280 go head of the line and and we'll talk about it so uh oh oh toll free I thought John was showing
00:28:47.260 me that there was a number sorry so so that's the first deal okay so I'm so we got the first deal
00:28:52.540 I'm I'm not happy about it I'm unpacking it it's it looks like a lot of politics and then just for
00:28:59.260 uh just for giggles uh it's stampede and stampede is an event like no other event in the country i
00:29:07.020 don't think there is an equivalent in the country in terms of an event that brings out politician
00:29:10.940 not the montreal carnival not just or the quebec carnival not the just for last festival nothing
00:29:15.980 else like when stampede occurs in calgary wonderful tradition by the way when it occurs it's incredible
00:29:23.900 how many politicians show up right everybody's got a barbecue everybody's got a breakfast
00:29:28.620 everybody everybody wants to come so who was in town this week nenshi's in town uh pierre
00:29:35.580 pauliev was in town doug ford was in town a whole bunch of other people but before but before i get
00:29:40.700 to doug ford and his visit to calgary uh quick can we do a quick video john or maybe cue it up
00:29:48.540 and get it ready because yesterday uh western standard had its barbecue uh afternoon barbecue
00:29:55.900 at the sonalta community hall a beautiful day to do it with uh water balloons and uh john do you
00:30:05.980 have a maybe a maybe a q a couple of clips uh mayor farkas came out uh kudos to the mayor
00:30:12.620 excellent excellent great sport about it he put himself out there made a bit of a you know it's
00:30:18.780 a bit of a goofy thing he he allowed himself to put on the water wings the lifeguard water wings
00:30:24.220 and people for a good cause, for charity, bought water balloons
00:30:28.120 and got to toss them at the mayor.
00:30:29.620 So kudos to the mayor.
00:30:31.840 Our very own Derek got one right in the noggin.
00:30:35.360 It was a perfect shot.
00:30:36.480 John, do you have that shot or is that asking for too much right now?
00:30:41.380 While John looks that up, oh, there you go.
00:30:45.460 We got pictures of it, right?
00:30:47.000 Take my word for it.
00:30:48.160 It was a great time.
00:30:49.500 uh go go on our x feed uh under western standard and go find the videos of uh oh there you go
00:30:55.740 there's uh that's the one where derek got hit right square in the head i think
00:31:04.060 yeah anyways a great time had by all uh me personally uh always happy to go to events
00:31:10.940 like that have friends come visit and uh fans and people come talk and i got to meet michelle
00:31:17.500 remple yesterday uh i'm folks i'm a big fan of michelle's okay so i and i i gave her a shout
00:31:25.500 out online i'm i was genuine in this comment which is i'm not one of those uh person i'm not a hog
00:31:32.940 who asks everybody for a camera shot i didn't get a camera shot with uh with the mayor i'm not i'm
00:31:39.100 not struck like that i don't need to have a collection of people on my uh on my phone but
00:31:44.860 once in a while there are people that i genuinely admire and i want a picture with them and that was
00:31:49.580 the case with michelle rumple i asked for a picture and i will say this i'm just a little
00:31:55.100 bit disappointed when um you know i said i liked her and i like her for the fact that she represents
00:32:02.860 alberta so well she's a good advocate for our province she's fought a hard fight for years
00:32:08.860 in the house of commons she's out there in the public and one thing i really admire about her
00:32:14.620 is how she uses social media and her platform to do similar to what i do which is to share topics
00:32:21.100 complicated topics and get some discussion and so i'm trying to be nice about that i make a nice
00:32:26.300 post and then i get a whole bunch of people just literally criticizing her because they don't like
00:32:31.660 one of her issues and i ask people to get beyond that right like you cannot you will never find
00:32:37.580 somebody that you agree with on everything including me and i and i don't want anybody
00:32:43.260 to agree with everything about me but like do you really like it's i don't like it when somebody
00:32:49.420 completely dismisses somebody because they disagree on one item and i got that a lot yesterday
00:32:54.380 on that post about michelle okay got a caller on the line go ahead what's on your mind where
00:32:59.580 are you calling from and what's your name please my name is colin gunn i'm calling from manitoba
00:33:06.460 hello colin how's it going really good we used to work together on tc uh the reason i phoned is
00:33:13.740 what's happening in the dauphin swan river area we've had these floods it's actually closed down
00:33:20.060 we can't even get groceries what we're seeing is indecision and and a bunch of politicians that
00:33:26.940 don't know what they're doing you know our hospitals closed down give you an idea a place
00:33:31.900 like airdrie or or uh high river think about that hospital shut down everybody's thrown out
00:33:38.780 and now we have this nt ntp government couldn't even put together a couple bulldozers and just
00:33:45.500 get temporary roads so we can get people to a hospital or even groceries or dog food in and
00:33:51.020 it's just ridiculous and and correct me if i'm wrong but this is probably not something brand
00:33:56.620 new right you probably have events of this type once in a while i mean it's something that should
00:34:01.820 be able to anticipate and be prepared for well that's normal but yeah ndp not only did the same
00:34:09.900 thing you know they shut down the forest service to save a few bucks to build painted crosswalks
00:34:16.380 bottom line is the federal government they're just showing their hands up too you would think
00:34:22.220 with our military we'd have uh shinook helicopters at least bringing in flight freight and putting
00:34:30.060 up some kind of EMS to get people if they need to get to a hospital which we don't even have
00:34:37.180 some help here yeah okay well I'm sorry we've got the farmers out we've got the farmers out there
00:34:44.060 doing the construction themselves imagine that yeah we all gang up as farmers well no I mean
00:34:51.420 you're you're reminding me of uh yeah I mean farmers are wonderful people right you can always
00:34:55.900 count on farmers i mean we had uh that reminds me of when we had the major fires a couple years ago
00:35:00.940 in grand prairie and the farmers starting getting involved in fighting the fires and then the police
00:35:05.020 came in and tried to stop the farmers from doing the job because the farmers could hurt themselves
00:35:09.100 you know what i mean yeah we've got the same thing going here same thing going on that's so
00:35:12.220 frustrating i'm sorry to hear that i think i lost you uh okay well what what can we do i mean where
00:35:17.020 i guess we bring a bit of awareness where where is this what part of the world is just southeast
00:35:21.020 of winnipeg or where would this be okay we i think we colin hung up that's okay all right
00:35:33.660 well thanks for calling colin i i on when uh when i got a call from manitoba i thought he was going
00:35:38.380 to call about something else because so let me get back to the story stampede everybody's visiting
00:35:43.740 i don't want to rush through the stories i'm looking at the time man today's flying by uh
00:35:48.540 so doug ford's in town all right so doug ford comes to stampede he doesn't want to miss it and
00:35:52.780 now he wants to be on uh he wants to be on team alberta or he wants team alberta to stay on team
00:35:59.100 canada so now even doug ford's getting involved in uh fighting the separatists so i'm laughing
00:36:04.620 because doug ford to me uh before leaving uh toronto he asked somebody like hey uh draw me a
00:36:12.060 map and what kind of pipeline could we support right so so doug comes out of the blue and he
00:36:19.420 announces that hey uh he's working with danielle smith and they're going to build a pipeline from
00:36:24.940 hardesty to sarnia do you have a map of that one john sorry to put you on the spot but maybe we
00:36:30.460 can find a map of doug ford's proposed pipeline and um so i'm laughing because doug's pipeline had
00:36:39.660 even less um uh even less engineering even less things worked out like it was literally
00:36:48.620 well i know what he did right i mean he it looked a lot like a mini version of energy east right so
00:36:54.860 you remember uh back in 2011 12 13 somewhere around there i leave the picture up there for
00:36:59.980 a few minutes uh john so energy east was a pipeline proposed by trans canada that was
00:37:06.140 going to follow basically a lot of that path but go further go all the way to new brunswick st john
00:37:12.220 new brunswick and energy east had been proposed by trans canada as an export pipeline to go all
00:37:18.860 the way out east to ship a million barrels of oil and to export it and send it to um overseas markets
00:37:25.980 like europe but of course since the pipeline was going across the country energies was also going
00:37:30.460 to branch off and um ship a little bit of oil to a refinery in montreal one in quebec city
00:37:37.020 and uh and so forth and again energies um like uh earlier like so many other pipelines of that era
00:37:46.140 died a uh quiet death overly regulated um trans canada in the end just gave up said we're not
00:37:54.620 going to do it and and as an example energies i worked on energies the my team did the hydraulics
00:38:00.300 and we started when we started doing the hydraulics and and the preliminary cost estimates and the
00:38:05.500 negotiations with shippers we were looking at like a 3400 kilometer long pipeline with 72 pump stations
00:38:11.980 delivering a million barrels of oil all the way to new brunswick and we had a budget of about 18
00:38:16.460 billion dollars so uh that just shows how the economies have changed right when the government
00:38:23.500 gets involved it's it's it becomes rapidly uneconomic and and i i insist on that if the
00:38:28.860 government is a chicken and egg and the government has to reverse some of these bad regulations but
00:38:34.220 yeah so this is uh this is the northern shield pipeline that um that doug ford brought to the
00:38:40.300 table here and proposed and and uh was all pumped up about there's a lot of problems with that
00:38:45.900 pipeline but the the cost aside the one that's surprising is uh it's not really needed right now
00:38:52.700 because ontario is getting uh oil from alberta indirectly through line five but i guess there's
00:38:58.860 enough risk of line of the fact that line five goes down to the u.s that it could be shut off
00:39:04.700 um so you know at this point i didn't anticipate this pipeline i wasn't expecting it i don't really
00:39:11.900 see the need for it but if some private sector wanted to build it i'd be 100 for it but when
00:39:17.420 again if the government wants to get involved that would be an 80 billion dollar fiasco but
00:39:22.620 what was funny about this one is it's been a few days now um and we still haven't heard from wab
00:39:28.220 canoe i'm pretty sure that uh scott moe's okay with the pipeline crossing saskatchewan but wab
00:39:33.180 canoe ndp premier hasn't said a word and that was a little bit awkward and embarrassing and weird
00:39:40.540 that doug ford just came out and said yeah i want this pipeline without consulting with the other
00:39:45.580 premier so again it's a knee-jerk reaction and um it's politicians fighting for some attention from
00:39:53.820 some camera time but i also think it does show that the players the big boys are worried about
00:39:59.340 the independence movement in alberta and and we're seeing that that's that's what we're seeing right
00:40:04.700 now um yeah it'll be interesting to see uh if if wob says anything by the way uh yeah we're done
00:40:13.820 done with that one thanks john we don't need to keep hounding that one uh i'm gonna go through
00:40:18.660 some of these other things really quickly i guess we're uh i'm just looking at the clock
00:40:22.940 um like it's been a bad week for carney right so what was the other big announcement this week um
00:40:30.120 canada is buying and i can't wrap my mind around this one my head around this one canada's buying
00:40:37.240 12 subs 12 submarines 12 subs not nuclear ones good old-fashioned diesel submarines we're
00:40:43.740 buying 12 submarines from germany for a total all-in cost of about a hundred billion dollars
00:40:51.260 and that is a that is uh weird on so many levels i get it i get it um we we need to increase our
00:41:00.940 spending and uh because we're under pressure from donald trump to increase our gdp uh or our our
00:41:07.020 our military spending as a percentage of gdp to like five percent he you know trump said it clearly
00:41:12.780 nato's underperforming underspending trump's tired of defending us and being the one who
00:41:18.220 bears all that cost so uh carney's rushing to find things did he buy the subs just because
00:41:24.780 they're really expensive um i'm almost thinking so i'm also thinking he'll never buy the subs
00:41:31.940 because they're they're um it's not in our dna right it's not in our dna since 1914
00:41:39.660 canada has registered something like 13 submarines 13 royal canadian navy vessels have been
00:41:48.100 submarines since 1914 like one in the first world war a couple in the second world war
00:41:54.700 one in the cold war period or two and we currently have like three uh that are officially commissioned
00:42:01.820 three that we bought from the uk uh 15 years ago when they and we bought them when they're already
00:42:07.840 20 years old it's not in our dna to operate submarines okay we don't have a long proud
00:42:14.080 tradition of operating submarines we do have a proud tradition of operating navies of surface
00:42:20.640 navies we had like the third or fourth largest surface navy after the second world war that's
00:42:25.840 in our dna but what's really sad is that um we we are an amazing country with three oceans
00:42:34.160 steel a labor force deep ports electricity skills everything and we do not have a proper shipbuilding
00:42:43.520 industry okay we don't have a shipbuilding industry now i'm pretty vocal about this i
00:42:48.780 don't think the government should subsidize 100 any industry and the government shouldn't give
00:42:55.500 money just to try and get an industry uh going but this is an example where if the government
00:43:04.700 was really smart instead of just giving 100 billion dollars to germany or spending the next
00:43:11.100 decade anyways negotiating because i think that's how long it's going to be this is all for show
00:43:15.020 but let's say it was real instead of just giving 10 billion dollars to 100 billion dollars to
00:43:19.900 germany and getting almost nothing out of it why could we not go and build surface maybe
00:43:27.180 submarines a stretch i don't think we could build submarines in this country but why don't we even
00:43:30.620 build surface vessels right we used to be able to build surface vessels so i don't like this deal
00:43:36.220 i sound negative today i sound negative i know i sound negative and i know i don't like carny
00:43:41.420 but boy i'd sure like to be able to give him something positive but i just can't and i'm
00:43:46.220 not nitpicking i'm not going out of my way to find the negative some people say marty just be happy
00:43:50.780 it's 100 billion dollars spent i'm not at that point folks like i'm like i'd rather not spend
00:43:57.420 than waste okay that's me i'd rather like our government is in huge debt right now uh the
00:44:03.660 the national debts 2.3 trillion dollars carney said he was going to do small deficits all this
00:44:09.580 spending is money we don't have like the the fiscal update that came out in uh in april was
00:44:15.580 like predicting a 72 billion dollar uh deficit for this year the way he's running around and spending
00:44:22.060 money this like i'm looking forward to the fall economic update because i'm sure we're going to be
00:44:26.940 in 150 billion dollar deficit range with all this uh this craziness right and so i i i i don't
00:44:35.980 understand the well no again i understand the logic because this goes back to the flawed one of one of
00:44:43.500 carney's um he he came on board as the guy who was gonna be he was promoted as a guy to defend
00:44:52.700 us against trump and he failed at that right he failed at his first job his number one job was to
00:44:58.300 reneg to fight an economic uh uh a trade war with the us and uh get us a better deal he lost
00:45:06.460 that so then he's going around the world making now he's going around the world making deals
00:45:11.100 elsewhere but these deals are making our trade balance worse okay it's not like when i bought
00:45:16.780 when you when he visits germany and he comes back says hey i got us a deal with germany but the deal
00:45:21.580 is that we give them a hundred billion dollars and in return they give us 12 subs that's not
00:45:26.860 that's not improving our trade balance that's not replacing the trade that we've lost with the us
00:45:32.300 that's making things worse and this is making things really worse so we're pumping money that
00:45:37.260 we don't have uh and giving it to foreign entities instead of using money i mean i'd prefer we use
00:45:44.140 money we have to improve our economy my second choice would be to use money we don't have and
00:45:49.260 borrow it to improve our economy when i'm borrowing money because i don't have it and then i give it to
00:45:55.980 another country how am i making things better so so these kinds of announcements get made nobody
00:46:02.540 criticizes it nobody looks into it and everybody sort of applauds and and then we move on so not
00:46:09.020 happy about the deal with uh the submarine deal just just not happy about it and speaking of
00:46:16.220 giving money away so carny uh is in europe right now he's in uh turkey or i don't know how i'm
00:46:22.780 supposed to say it now like everybody's saying turkey or something like uh we're not calling
00:46:27.500 it turkey anymore they're changing the word there um carney's in turkey at a nato conference and
00:46:34.300 what's the first thing he did when he got there he had a quick meeting with uh zelinski and gave
00:46:39.340 zelinski another 900 million dollars another 900 million dollars we don't have wow okay and now
00:46:48.220 now i'm gonna bring it back to another weird thing right no it's not weird it's all related
00:46:52.700 it's all related and and uh so while while he's on his little tour in europe over there um
00:47:01.020 carney is meeting with saudi arabia carney went and met with the united arab emirates the united
00:47:05.820 arab emirates is a country that actually has a real sovereign wealth fund okay they have
00:47:11.020 like trillions of dollars in sovereign wealth and they're looking to invest all over the world and
00:47:17.340 diversify their economies and carney went there about six months ago and and said yeah yeah we're
00:47:23.340 good we'll we'll we'll open trade negotiations between our two countries we'll do more partnerships
00:47:28.300 and everything else and finally finally on the hook he gets a country like the united arab
00:47:34.140 emirates that says yeah we're looking to invest some money we got money ready to go and what did
00:47:37.980 he tell him this week he just told the united arab emirates sorry we have no shovel ready
00:47:43.100 projects for you so you got one in you got one come one one foreign sovereign wealth fund ready
00:47:51.900 to invest in our country and we have nothing to offer them like i don't know i don't know i don't
00:47:59.420 know i don't know how i go with that i don't know what to do um listen i'm gonna all right i got a
00:48:06.300 couple more minutes i got a couple of things i want to uh because i want to finish with a private
00:48:11.260 story um john can you find the other clip that i was going to bring up today can you find the story
00:48:18.380 from ernst and young about 40 of manufacturing thinking of moving to the united states put that
00:48:24.300 on the screen if you get a chance again it all ties in right so don't don't believe like our
00:48:31.900 governments will tell us one thing often do something else but like if you want to know
00:48:37.500 know what's going on um you've got to dissect what's happening and you gotta you gotta look
00:48:43.200 at more than one source of information right so you got the government in this country that keeps
00:48:47.600 telling you uh we're the source of truth then there's guys like me and the western standard
00:48:53.240 and rebel news and and and you know independent media we're a different source of information we
00:48:58.540 don't regurgitate the government lines i try and bring you facts what i'm trying to do right now
00:49:03.840 is get you guys i got tried to piece together the whole story that happened this week not just one
00:49:09.380 of them but i was showing you the complexities of everything that happened this week and now it
00:49:13.360 can all sort of tie in and and how it's all sort of going as far as i can say in the wrong direction
00:49:19.320 but don't just believe me right believe the industry and the markets like the financial
00:49:27.260 markets because they don't lie they're motivated by real um they make real decisions not decisions
00:49:33.800 based on emotions or ideology they make real decisions and this week ernest and young broke
00:49:39.540 out a story that said that in a survey of companies 40 of canadian companies surveyed i don't know how
00:49:46.000 big the survey was but 40 of companies surveyed in canada right now are seriously thinking of
00:49:52.680 pulling uh uh lifting roots and pulling uh the plug and moving to the united states
00:49:59.660 so that those are the real indicators right it doesn't matter what carney tells you oh we're
00:50:05.100 we're in a small recession or we're not in a recession or the economy is doing fine or the
00:50:09.340 jobs are okay or whatever don't believe the stories go find the data go find what the real
00:50:17.080 markets are doing and that's an indicator so we got we got a we got a ernst and young is like a
00:50:22.380 big accounting firm a big uh strategic think tank and and when a company like that says that they've
00:50:30.300 surveyed people in the company and they want to move to the u.s that's the state of the economy
00:50:34.440 that's what's happening um we're that's the evidence that we're losing the trade war companies
00:50:39.840 want to leave canada and go somewhere else i like that's that's um that's a bit of a that's a sad
00:50:46.620 story uh hey okay so i wanted to um maybe i should have talked about this one first just to see if
00:50:53.180 you guys would uh would would have some thoughts to share with me on this one but i had a weird
00:50:58.700 incident uh at home this week you guys know i've had a few weird incidents but i had a really really
00:51:04.220 really weird one this week i went for a walk on uh tuesday night and uh my dog was i live out in
00:51:11.500 the country the dog was running loose and uh she found something and i went up to her she's a coon
00:51:17.660 hound right she's got a good nose she found something and i grabbed it out of her i'm like
00:51:21.340 what is that and it was a ziploc bag full of meat okay so i mean i have no idea why there'd be a
00:51:28.620 ziploc bag full of meat along the ditch on a country road and then uh and then as we kept
00:51:34.620 walking she kept sniffing and she found five bags all spaced about 100 yards three on one side of
00:51:42.020 the road in the ditch and three on the other side of the road on the ditch and uh okay so me and my
00:51:48.900 wife collected those bags and and uh kept them and then near the end of the walk she found something
00:51:56.040 else and i went with her and tucked in some of the trees was what appeared to be just a carcass of
00:52:03.260 an animal and i looked at it closely and i took a picture of it i put it on x and i said it looks
00:52:08.620 like a dead poodle so i thought oh man maybe uh maybe maybe somebody's trying to kill coyotes and
00:52:17.180 accidentally kill the dog i don't know anyways i shared the story on in the neighborhood on our
00:52:22.420 neighborhood chat line and one of my neighbors who's a vet came out with me and we went and looked
00:52:27.120 closely at the at the carcass of the dog and it wasn't just a carcass it was only a hide and she
00:52:34.120 confirmed that um that that somebody had skinned a poodle like okay so why is there the hide of a
00:52:44.780 skinned poodle in my neighborhood and then yesterday going for a walk found another bag of
00:52:52.620 dog or food i'm saying dog food because i'm jumping ahead of myself found another bag so
00:52:57.180 six ziploc bags full of food and a dead hide or hide in my neighborhood and then i hunt and i
00:53:03.900 finally decided to go look at the little cuts of meat in the baggie and to me they're like they're
00:53:10.940 they're like teeny weeny little roasts like they're it it is totally apparent my conclusion
00:53:16.940 is that the meat in the baggies is the dog
00:53:22.620 So anyways, I call the RCMP, I call the county and in their infinite wisdom, they said, oh, there's not much we can do to investigate because there's no crime. I'm like, okay, there's no crime. And their infinite wisdom was like, well, maybe you should consider setting up game cameras. Anyways, I'll set up game cameras.
00:53:41.260 uh just wanted to share the story uh because i've shared it on social media and i'm trying to figure
00:53:46.760 out what what is the possible logical explanation for what i found i know it's too late now probably
00:53:52.980 don't have time for somebody to call maybe i'll ask next week uh after you watch the show or leave
00:53:57.600 me a comment just leave me a comment uh online here uh i'll go read the comments afterwards but
00:54:03.080 what do you guys think is happening with that um okay well we're kind of near the end of the show
00:54:10.360 i i actually i'm i'm rushing off after this uh i won't be able to go to the debate with between
00:54:16.620 derek and duane i wish i could but uh i'm loading my quad and heading up north uh go set up my
00:54:22.620 hunting camp i'm not starting to hunt but i set up my hunting camp in july so that the family and
00:54:27.180 friends can enjoy it all summer long so i'm looking forward to doing that uh just bringing
00:54:32.140 up a quick shot uh just self-promo uh well actually i want to talk about this one last
00:54:37.100 thing sorry i still got time signatures signatures are being counted yes i forgot about that
00:54:41.600 signatures are being counted so the um the the appeal is being heard and the judge put a stay
00:54:49.220 or i guess it's a stay i don't know how the the technical term but the judge who's a who's hearing
00:54:55.360 the appeal is temper is not over i guess is overruling the lower court judge and saying to
00:55:01.880 elections alberta at least start counting the vote so count or count the signatures in the petition
00:55:06.640 uh i know i i chatted with and i know that eva chipyuk who uh friend of the channel well known
00:55:15.980 among you for her work in the freedom convoy and defending uh people like carrie sakamoto in the um
00:55:22.420 in her vaccine injury case and stuff like that so eva has been nominated by stay free alberta
00:55:28.780 as the scrutineer so she's the one who's going to sit in the elections alberta office and supervise
00:55:35.900 as they count the signatures step one and this whole process is going to take about three weeks
00:55:42.140 i'm i'm so happy i'm so happy it means that um my hundreds of hours spent collecting signatures
00:55:48.940 weren't for nothing so she's gonna uh the the signatures are being counted eva thinks that in
00:55:55.340 mentioned uh that in the or not eva mitch sylvester through eva uh or the other way around eva through
00:56:03.900 mitch sylvester anyways mentioned that the first step is they will do a gross count so elections
00:56:09.580 alberta will do a gross count right remember mitch counted them he said there's like 335 000
00:56:15.100 elections alberta will do the gross count and tell us their number i i'm pretty sure it'll match it
00:56:20.460 should be 335 unless they lost a couple of boxes along the way and then after that we'll start the
00:56:25.500 the quality control process as part of the quality control process they will call
00:56:30.060 they will randomly pick signature sheets and then call people on the sheet so if you sign
00:56:35.820 the petition remember what did you do when you signed the petition you gave your name
00:56:40.140 your address your physical address and a phone number so if they call you and or maybe if you get
00:56:45.820 a an unknown call number answer it or call back when they leave a message elections alberta will
00:56:52.540 leave a message if they call you and what they're validating is you know do you remember generally
00:56:58.460 signing the signature on such and such a date and what's the phone number and the name and
00:57:03.500 the address that you provided i've already talked to a couple of people go i don't remember what
00:57:08.060 phone number i provided i'm like ah i hope this i hope everybody gets it right when they call you
00:57:13.420 because if if they say what what phone number did you or uh no that'd be a bad one what address did
00:57:19.180 you provide if you if you hesitate that signature is going to get disqualified anyway it's just
00:57:23.820 long story short the signatures are being counted i'm very happy about that and lastly on the
00:57:29.980 independence front uh july 18th so that is next saturday there's a telethon being organized we'll
00:57:37.580 have more detail for that you'll see it all over social media but um a bunch of uh alberta separatist
00:57:45.580 pro separatism social media accounts john bolton myself others are taking the lead on organizing a
00:57:52.700 telethon and i'll be hosting an hour in that telethon and the whole purpose of that telethon
00:57:59.100 is to promote the third party advertisers the cory morgan's of the world and the jason levine's of
00:58:04.460 the world and all the groups that have set up their own little tpas they can't be the host of
00:58:09.820 the telethon but they'll come in as guests so independent totally independent private citizens
00:58:14.140 like myself will be hosting the telethon inviting people to promote the third party advertisers
00:58:20.460 so that you can give them a little bit of money so we can keep fighting this fight
00:58:25.100 and speaking of giving a little bit of money my last pitch this is uh you know you don't get
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00:58:50.460 the subscription and i'll be back next thursday back at the same time and i hope some of you can
00:58:57.660 can make it to the debate tonight. Cheers. Thanks for watching again.
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