In this episode of the Global Energy Show, Cory Morrigan talks about the growing number of people who refuse to take part in government-mandated vaccinations, and why it's a good thing we don't have universal health care.
00:06:03.640So I guess I'll start with the most recent. You've been kind of keeping track of the budding Israel, Iran, so many Middle Eastern countries and wars going on right now.
00:06:14.380Israel-Iran war going on. What's happening out there right now?
00:06:19.440Well, we've entered the sixth day. It started last week, and it looks like Iran is definitely up against the ropes now.
00:06:28.520there the internet is shut down in the country there's no news media there is that even whatsapp
00:06:35.720which is the way iranians talk to each other both inside and outside of iran apparently it's the
00:06:40.920only way they can communicate without the government interfering in the communications
00:06:46.120and the phone system is down and israel has continued to bomb major centers and go after
00:06:53.240after their state broadcaster. Earlier today, they took out the internal security headquarters.
00:07:01.080And it looks like apparently Iran has reached out to the White House asking for a negotiation.
00:07:07.400And then after that came public, Iran said, no, we would never negotiate, basically.
00:07:11.700And overnight, three airplanes left Iran to Oman, which will be interesting because I'm guessing
00:07:19.720that the planes that went there were not carrying civilians, they were probably carrying the upper0.94
00:07:26.200echelons of the Iranian Islamic regime. Yeah, and I mean, the way Israel's hit,0.60
00:07:32.560and you know that this has kind of been in the works and in the planning for a long time.
00:07:37.380I mean, the rationale is that Iran has a nuclear program, and they're getting close to having the
00:07:42.540ability for a nuclear weapon. But is there any indication of evidence of this somewhere? I mean,
00:07:47.480know there's always been the rumors this is kind of we get memories of the old gulf war when they
00:07:51.640said iraq had weapons of mass destruction and they really turns out they didn't does it look like
00:07:57.240there might be evidence of actual uh nuclear capability uh in this case yes uh apparently
00:08:02.920they were getting close to one functional uh nuclear weapon uh with an with the ability to
00:08:10.280create a few more a little bit further down the line i've heard anywhere from only being 15 days
00:08:17.000away to being three to four years away for that first one uh i don't think there's any solid
00:08:22.600evidence on exactly on how close they were uh however um one of the reasons they did this
00:08:28.920attack was to take out those nuclear enrichment facilities but one of them is inside of a mountain
00:08:35.320and the missiles that israel has uh cannot take that site out they're not powerful enough
00:08:45.380The only one that could take that would be the U.S. because it requires a 30,000 pound bunker buster bomb.
00:08:55.060So if the intent is to take out both nuclear enrichment facilities completely, the U.S. would have to get involved because Israel doesn't presently have the capability to do that.
00:09:05.720They can take out everything else they want, and they can take out the other nuclear enrichment facility that they've already actually severely damaged, according to the International Atomic Energy Agency.
00:09:18.060And they've been also targeting the scientists.
00:09:22.340So they are taking out the top nuclear scientists in Iran.
00:09:26.300So even after this, it's going to take them a while to find scientists to rebuild the program.
00:09:31.540And apparently this attack has been 20 years in the making.
00:09:35.720but they only decided to attack about three months ago and got set up to do it.
00:09:41.240Yeah. Well, I mean, it's, it's concerning. I mean, I, as I said, I, I get a little bit of
00:09:45.920misgivings because I look at what happened with the, uh, you know, supposed mass weapons of mass
00:09:50.740destruction in Iraq, but at the same time, if there's any country on the planet, I don't want1.00
00:09:54.820having a functional nuclear weapon, it would probably be Iran. I mean, if there's any company0.76
00:09:58.220that actually would be perhaps be ideological and fundamentalist enough to actually use it,
00:10:03.280that would probably be the place. Yes. And we have seen from Iran erratic behavior. We have seen1.00
00:10:12.700in the past them trying to hide their nuclear enrichment program when they allow other countries
00:10:18.640to come in and look at their nuclear facilities. So we know that they've been doing this. There's
00:10:23.660no doubt that they are. The real question was how close they actually were. And that we probably
00:10:29.980we'll never know due to the fact that you know one of the enrichment facilities is essentially
00:10:33.800destroyed and the other one at some point i fully expect that the u.s will get involved and end that
00:10:39.400one as well because they're the only one that can't so well we'll watch things unfold and and
00:10:44.940you'll keep uh updating on us uh while i got you though what else is happening out in saskatchewan
00:10:50.380what kind of stories have you got a little closer to home right now uh well over the weekend um
00:10:56.080there was a street fight near the University of Regina involving a bunch of international students
00:11:02.480from India. Apparently they were fighting over a girl and then one of them decided it would be a
00:11:08.960great idea to go get his car and then ram it into the street fight. So he was charged with attempted
00:11:14.880murder. He's an 18 year old student from India and one of the individuals was taken to the hospital
00:11:22.720with a head injury. However, there's been no update other than they're not in the ICU,
00:11:28.320so it wasn't a life-threatening head injury. And a few people were treated at the scene as well.
00:11:35.760So that's going on, and that's been part of an ongoing SAG at the University of Regina
00:11:40.880with regards to issues with the campus and international students. So that's just par
00:11:49.520for the course presently uh and then we've got scott moe and uh danielle smith doing a bit of
00:11:56.160an energy tour after the first ministers meeting up in saskatoon obviously touting a pipeline uh
00:12:03.360to particularly the one they want to get going the quickest would be the one uh through bc uh
00:12:09.440and then also going north uh to the uh arctic circle and then also if if this could ever get
00:12:17.760done i don't know if quebec would agree to it but obviously a pipeline to uh both coasts would be
00:12:24.560ideal uh but uh they're really sort of putting their their first attempts into getting one to bc
00:12:33.360first uh it's the faster one that could get built it's a shorter distance to build the pipeline and
00:12:38.160it opens up uh all the asian pacific markets uh for oil for example from alberta and saskatchewan
00:12:45.360So that's the one they're really touting.
00:12:47.460And then this afternoon, they are doing a press conference about energy and agriculture up in Lloydminster as well.
00:26:05.360You know, you're not letting them push you around.
00:26:06.920I mean, I was at an event last weekend in Red Deer, a large one,
00:26:10.800And there was one of the high points of it was a debate between Knight Legg and Keith Wilson, both on, you know, different views on independence.
00:26:21.200And I tell you, you know, Legg was in the majority in there, but the room was absolutely polite and welcoming to that different point of view being up there.
00:26:28.200There's quite a different attitude, I think, among the conservative folks who want to welcome discourse and some different ideas.
00:26:33.860And then the clowns like Reboot who just want to shut down all possible different points of view.
00:26:39.100We've had experience, of course, with this group before when we did our kids event called Let Kids Be Kids.
00:26:45.560That was an event that talked about child pornography in libraries.
00:26:49.780They tried to shut us down at the venue.
00:26:51.840They caused a lot of problems for the venue, cost them a lot of money because they took a perspective to try to damage small business.
00:26:59.060So this is the challenge that we're seeing out there right now is that these groups want to shut you down from speaking.
00:27:07.200Now, they're keyboard warriors. They're happy to do all sorts of intimidating things online.
00:27:12.120But when it actually comes to talking and debating the points, they don't have any points to debate.
00:27:17.220That's what they tell me. Like you said there, as soon as they try to shut you down from the beginning,
00:27:22.260you know they don't have much to say that is constructive.
00:27:25.320So we're going to have a calm conversation, a dialogue, so to speak.
00:27:29.600We're not looking to raise any barns or anything like that.
00:27:34.400this is going to be a long process of education for Albertans. They need to know. And by having
00:27:38.860multiple views, I think Albertans are smart enough that they're going to pick the path.
00:27:43.580They're going to understand what is best for Albertans in the long run. And how we define
00:27:49.520sovereignty is really irrelevant right now. I mean, this is stage one of a seven-stage process
00:27:54.440that would literally occur. So should there be the activation of the Citizens Initiative Act,
00:28:00.680then there'll be a referendum there'll be more education then there'll be a vote i mean this is
00:28:05.320a long time coming so people are going to have to have the opportunity to listen and i mean we saw
00:28:09.980it we got one of our speakers got shut down uh last week because uh groups felt that we shouldn't
00:28:16.680have a federalist speaking the federalists themselves didn't think that the federalist
00:28:20.660person should be speaking about why it was valuable for alberta to be in canada so that
00:28:25.460confusion it's a way that um the quiet not even the quiet the very minor uh opposition uh tries
00:28:34.660to intimidate what looks like a very large movement to want to listen and want to understand
00:28:41.140yeah it's frustrating and you know i find it insulting because it's their way of telling
00:28:45.700albertans we don't trust you to make up your own mind we don't trust you to listen to different
00:28:50.820voices so we want to take away the ability for you to even hear those so you don't make a decision
00:28:55.860that we don't agree with it it's really a vile attitude well it's intellectual warfare and i think
00:29:01.700one of the challenges we have with canadians is sometimes we're intellectually lazy
00:29:05.300we don't seek out more information we just want what's spoon fed it's easy but understanding
00:29:10.820deep complex issues or maybe even simple issues just requires a certain amount of critical thinking
00:29:16.100and these days we're not seeing a lot of critical thinking we're not seeing a lot of people think
00:29:20.340about i mean i'm even looking at something new bill c5 if you read the fine print of that um
00:29:26.020build the nation plan it says that the federal government can take away any and all rights of
00:29:30.900individuals and laws at its whim in perpetuity so that's a very concerning thing it reminds me a lot
00:29:37.460of the history and if we look back at history we see that it repeats itself so are we at the same
00:29:42.820point as we were in 1979-81 i don't know but what i do know is that people should have the willingness
00:29:48.740to want to listen, to come out, and just to show a little courage, show a little spine,
00:29:53.920so you can speak intelligently about these topics. Absolutely. Well, thank you again. I know you
00:29:59.080never shy away from any debates there, Daryl. You welcome it on many fronts and venues, so I
00:30:04.520appreciate that, and I appreciate you coming on today. Maybe just before I let you go, one more
00:30:08.480time, where can people find information on this for the stream or to take part? It's very simple,
00:30:13.300thecouragetolisten.ca. You can get the tickets there, or you can go to our other website,
00:30:18.500ucpcalgarilahi.ca. We have a lot of information that's posted there. It gives the overview of
00:30:23.660the speakers. And in fact, I think we just posted momentarily ago the first of several papers that
00:30:30.500we will post for people to get information. This one, The Value of Freedom, and we'll have others
00:30:35.480about building a framework. Excellent. Thanks again, Daryl. Great to talk to you, and maybe
00:30:39.780i'll see you there thank you corey right on so yeah check that out guys the courage to listen
00:30:45.040like i said i love that title because again it's not even taken aside it's just saying and it's
00:30:48.780sad that you have to show courage to have an event where people can listen but that's what
00:30:52.920we're at now that's what is going on when they're trying to shut down the venues trying to shut down
00:30:57.260the discourse and they did it before and people said it was hyperbolic when they were talking
00:31:01.280about yeah the child porn in libraries we saw it coming up recently from the government there were
00:31:05.500in children's school libraries, books with, with men having oral sex with each other. It's bizarre0.90
00:31:13.080that anybody in their right mind can think these things are, are acceptable, but you know, if we
00:31:19.100don't expose them, we can't fix them. And I, I really get frustrated with, uh, you know, one
00:31:25.560side that always is trying to shout down or shut the speech down on another one. That's when my
00:31:30.520back gets up. And it, it just seems to be, I understand there's people on the fringe of the
00:31:35.080right? Absolutely, they exist. But they don't seem to take the tact of trying to shut down
00:31:39.800discourse of their opponents. They do their other things. But the far left, I mean, I've seen that
00:31:43.480at universities where they're standing outside in the hallway with bullhorns and banging on drums
00:31:48.040and banging on doors and kicking windows because they don't like a speaker who's come to the
00:31:52.260university. This is wrong. This is wrong. You know, I wish the left would kind of have just a little
00:31:57.840bit of looking at themselves and where they came from. Look back to the 60s. Look back to Berkeley,
00:32:04.180you know, which now is just a hotbed of vile extremism. But that used to be the place where
00:32:09.720it was the other way around. It was the old conservatives who were trying to shut down,
00:32:13.900they were knocking down protests, the anti-war protests, they were trying to shut down speech.
00:32:18.580You had McCarthyism wasn't that long prior to that. And these were left-wing, but they were
00:32:24.840freedom-minded people at these universities. They were fighting for the right to express,
00:32:29.040to debate, to protest. And now they've morphed into this authoritarian animal that doesn't feel
00:32:35.520people have the right to get together and discuss issues, even if they're sensitive, even if not
00:32:40.280everybody agrees with them. So always err on the side of freedom, folks, always. Err on the side
00:32:49.280of free speech. It means you might have to hear things you don't like. You got to hear from people
00:32:53.200you don't disagree with. It might make a movement go forward a little bit that you don't think is
00:32:57.900going to be good for you or your country. Debate it then. Counter-organize. Run a different group.
00:33:05.500Hold a different meeting. But don't try to shut down speech. That's always wrong. Always. So I'm
00:33:13.620really thrilled that Daryl and Eric are, you know, staying steadfast and pushing this along
00:33:19.440because these kinds of things are very, very important. It doesn't matter what side of it
00:33:22.740you're on, having these open discourses, this sort of thing, cutting through the BS, the rabble1.00
00:33:28.240is essential. I mean, look at social media today where we are exposed to so much misinformation,
00:33:34.280so much spun stuff, and it comes from the left, it comes from the right. There's no beating,
00:33:39.820getting people into the same room together and exchanging ideas, discussing and debating because
00:33:45.760there's no internet filter, there's no AI, there's nothing else in between you and that person.
00:33:50.300That's an actual interaction. That's the way good things come about. So I thank them for that. All
00:33:56.440right, let's get through some of the comments. I guess I'll kind of dial back because it went
00:33:59.640back a ways with Cyril Arnold saying, we're back to the Iran issue going on with Israel,
00:34:05.420saying, Iran has deals with Russia. They want to have a problem recovering their nuclear program.
00:34:09.440Okay, yeah, Russia has been kind of backing Iran, but you know, that's one of the things I was0.86
00:34:12.700thinking on. If Russia wanted Iran to have a nuke, Russia has plenty of them left over from the Cold0.82
00:34:17.780War. They could just drop one by through Uber Eats or whatever way they would get one there.
00:34:22.520I think Russia likes using Iran as a disruptor in the Middle East, and they're certainly a source1.00
00:34:26.520of oil. But that's what I was talking about is of all the places to be a nuclear power,
00:34:31.140most people would be worried about Iran because even Russia doesn't want to see a nuke actually
00:34:34.800used. And Iran is one of the countries that if they got one, there's a really good chance they1.00
00:34:40.040would actually use it. And, you know, 90% of the world, China, Russia, even, and so on,
00:34:44.860they don't want to see that they want to see many nasty things but they don't want to see a nuclear1.00
00:34:49.120war but who knows but uh i don't know if russia's that eager to keep iran nuclear able they just
00:34:54.880like to keep iran there as a spoiler uh kjf saying what a pipeline to skagway being an option so
00:35:02.340skagway is kind of up in alaska that was the big jump off point for the klondike rush uh you'd have
00:35:08.260to cross bc and then into the states for that i i don't know i think you know expanding capability
00:35:12.500to Prince Rupert would probably be more likely to get in the short term. But we've got to look at
00:35:17.340all options there. I see Debbie checking in from Tabor. Good to see you. Jacqueline Littler saying
00:35:24.300no sovereignty inside Canada, straight independence. And yeah, that's what we're
00:35:28.400talking about. You know, that there's different definitions. You find five Albertans and I think
00:35:32.960four out of five are upset with the status quo, but three out of four are going to have different
00:35:38.260definitions on what independence is if they're trying to pursue it. So we've got to iron a lot
00:35:45.660of that out. We've got to hammer it out. And something people have talked about a lot too
00:35:49.020is, well, what's the costing? It sounds like Jeff Rath has something coming out pretty soon to
00:35:53.800address a bunch of that. Jeff's a colorful character. He's quite the person who's been
00:35:59.000on the front with the Alberta Prosperity Project, but he's dedicated to it and he can put out some
00:36:03.000reasonable stuff. So it'd be interesting to see those documents coming out. There it is. Okay,
00:36:09.820Searle is saying, yeah, the Alberta Prosperity Project just emailed their fiscal plan to everyone
00:36:14.080who signed up on their emailing list, and he's reading it right now. So, you know, we'll keep
00:36:18.060breaking it down. There's a lot to do. I was just reading, Ezra Levant sent it to me, actually,
00:36:24.480an executive summary. I'm still working my way through it. Quebec did a massive amount of this
00:36:29.240kind of worked back in the 90s and it's gotten forgotten. They got a lot of experts, professors,
00:36:35.020people from all over and addressed loads of the questions on what independence would look like
00:36:41.000and what they're working towards. And sovereignty was one of their prime terms for it. And we,
00:36:45.600that, you know, the executive summary, I think is a hundred and some pages. And then the stuff
00:36:49.020itself is just volumes and volumes. The only thing in English so far is just the executive summary,
00:36:52.680but even there, there's a lot. And we don't need to reinvent a lot of these wheels. We need to be
00:36:57.020looking back at some of the stuff that Quebec's already done. And sure, you've got to adjust some
00:37:00.980things for a Western perspective, but a lot of it can be applied here. But we got a lot of work to do
00:37:05.980in a relatively short time. It's looking most likely, we're going to have a referendum on this
00:37:14.040in early 2026, maybe mid-2026. So that is not too long. I mean, some people say, oh, it's a year,
00:37:21.860that's a long time. Well, for the amount of stuff that has to be done, and I'm not just talking
00:37:26.520about the logistics though that's a big part too uh just getting the petitioning you know again the
00:37:32.340bar has been lowered people are acting as if uh it would be easy to trigger uh a referendum no it
00:37:38.740wouldn't be that easy people who haven't done a real official petition don't understand just how
00:37:44.280tough it is uh i should have almost kept daryl on to speak to it he knows about it he took part i
00:37:48.660believe and helped with the uh recall gondek thing or at least he was watching it closely
00:37:52.240and they got I believe close to 70,000 signatures it was it was quite a feat but well short of the
00:37:58.500ridiculous bar that used to be set there and that took hundreds and hundreds of people putting in
00:38:03.160countless hours to get that but it also shows 177,000 across the province with four months and
00:38:08.820with the attitudes now absolutely that will get done so now that that bar is achievable though
00:38:13.660making that tipping point for those who want independence those who vote
00:38:18.400to make their mind up and put that X there. And that's a big decision for a lot of people. It
00:38:24.280really is. There's a lot of people on the fence on that. There's a lot of people not necessarily
00:38:28.040convinced. There's a lot of question marks and those need to keep getting filled. The economic
00:38:33.300ones, the post-independence ones, or just addressing people's concerns as we get up to it.
00:38:39.100It's going to be a lot of work. There's a solid 30, some say 40% support for it. I don't know,
00:38:45.740but we're going to get well over 50 if you're really looking for a positive independence vote.
00:38:50.720And that, well, some of that's in the federal government's ballpark. It depends on what Carney
00:38:55.060does in the next six months, because he can certainly raise the support. Or you know what,
00:38:59.520I'll tell you what, he could deflate it. If he actually showed leadership, actually showed that
00:39:05.140this is a federation, and that means one of the few areas where central leadership will intervene
00:39:09.640is when they're saying, this is intra-provincial infrastructure
00:44:22.720Premier Smith is giving leeway to her elected representatives to be able to go out and ask those questions and have those discussions with constituents.
00:44:29.700We're getting as much from the premier as we should get and we can get at this time.