Guilbeault fired up over 'successful' forest manaagement
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Join us as we discuss the devastating fire that has ravaged the town of Jasper, Alberta, and the politicians who have been quick to point the finger at Global Warming and the forest management practices that contribute to the problem.
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good evening welcome to the pipeline i'm cory morgan this is the western standards weekly
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panel show where we'll pick a couple of the or a few of the top stories and break them down and
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interpret and explain them for you with some of the best minds the western standard has to offer
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so i'll reach out across the desk here and lay out who those best minds are we've got our opinion
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editor nigel henneford here today some days i'm a good mind there's other good people here well
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we'll leave it to the viewers to judge who can't always be winners though right that's right and
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I guess we'll start on what's been the top story all week.
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A whole lot of people now, you know, the fire's still burning,
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but most of the damage seems to have been done.
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A lot of I told you so's and, well, kind of hindsight and looking at what happened.
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So what all is going on with Mr. Gilboa and the Jasper fire?
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You know, the only good thing to come out of this quarry is no one was killed or badly injured.
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But, yeah, the finger pointing started the next day.
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Gilboa came out and blamed climate change and the horror of the horror.
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Canada's burning. And then strangely went on to praise the forest management around Jasper,
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which is really the entire problem as to why the town burned. And the town mayor seemed to think
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it was a success that only 70% of the buildings or only 70% of the buildings were saved, 30%
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destroyed. But no, a third of the town is gone. It's going to be uninhabitable for a while while
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they deal with the toxins in there and they've got to open up gas stations and supermarkets before
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the town can go back. So, you know, those people are going to be out for a while and the question
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marks, you know, the finger pointing will continue over the next several weeks. Well, it's kind of
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the wrong attitude. I mean, we should be, you know, okay, point out the things that are good. Yes,
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nobody was killed. Yes, there are 70% of the buildings that are remaining. These are good
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things but i mean the attitude we should be having so much it could have been worse i think the
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discussion now is it could have been a lot better yes there is a real debate between the politicians
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who don't really know what they're talking about and the experts who may disagree among themselves
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but do have some facts to back up mr gilbo is uh obviously he's totally agenda driven
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And if he can blame a fire on global warming, that's what he's going to do.
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If I were him, I'd be ashamed to come out with something like that.
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But what the foresters will tell you is that our forest management practices are designed
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to save trees, which sounds great, except that some of them make the case
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that if you leave the dead wood on the ground, it rots
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and all the little bugs and critters get in there
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and, you know, it's sort of a whole ecosystem onto itself.
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So what some forest areas do is they pull that stuff out.
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but at least it doesn't get to that intensity of heat.
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His name is Stuart Taylor, and he pointed out, this would have been on a Monday paper,
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that some of the forest practices that we have used on the edges of the national parks,
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in defense of this principle of always save the trees, have actually allowed the trees
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to encroach into areas that once never were treed, at least not in sort of recent centuries.
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So we don't have this more forest yet, but in a vulnerable place.
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So I don't presume to have an authoritative final opinion on good management practices
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in Alberta forests, but we must all recognize that there's more than one way to look at
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And for the minister in Ottawa to sit there and say, well, we only lost 30% of the time.
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is a simple childish reaction that you would expect from a man like that.
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Climate change discussion aside, assuming climate change is what's been driving the hot weather
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and dried out the forest and made it much more dangerous, we're learning anyways,
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no matter how much we carbon tax ourself, if we're going to change it back to cooler weather,
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it's going to take some time. I'm just saying to play that devil's advocate. In that case,
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we still have high fire hazard areas. We have populated areas of people living within bush.
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The discussion has to be, how can we protect structures and people then as it becomes more
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dangerous? And then instead of swinging away saying, well, it's our fault for not taxing
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ourselves. Absolutely. You know, if you do get, you know, the ambient temperature of the globe
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down a couple of degrees, first, you're still going to have forest fires. We have evidence of
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forest fires going back thousands of years. It's not going to change anything. No, and it's going
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to happen every year. It's continuing to happen now. Slave Lake, Fort McMurray. You know, every
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year there's towns in danger of being completely overrun by fire. And so everybody has to ask
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themselves, what has town aid done to protect themselves? Do they have enough fire guards
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around them do they have enough like clear area between the last trees and the beginning of town
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have they cleared out all the dead timber uh you know that's just laying there that is the
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ignition source for all all these fires you know and each town is going to you know have to be
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extremely careful uh you know it's lucky we haven't lost banff uh you know yet uh it's lucky
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that large swaths of Banff National Park and other national parks have been basically unaffected by
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these forest fires so far. You know, we have to do everything that we can to protect our towns
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and cities and our forests. Well, I grew up in Banff. That's my hometown. That's where I graduated
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high school before fleeing foolishly. Wait a minute. You graduated? Yeah, I went through the
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it's natural for it to burn about every 80 years.
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But Banff has some very, very influential people
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with some very expensive houses backed right into those trees
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building a firebreak or the chainsaws can't go on.
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would they rather have that and the home standing
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Well, I think after what they've seen in Jasper,
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the provincial leaders, the federal wants to say,
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I mean, just to talk about how we, you know, when you've gone 30, 40, 50 years without a fire, it's hard to convince these people this needs to be done.
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Right now, I think a lot of people are receptive to fire prevention.
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One of the things I'm seeing is that there haven't been enough prescribed burns, and those are dangerous things.
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We had a tremendous exclusive last year from Linda Slobodian about a prescribed bird near Banff that got completely out of control.
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So, you know, the parks people were all proud of it because this was their first all-female
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And, you know, it quickly got out of control and got out of hand.
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So we need to figure out how to do these prescribed burns properly and get back to
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You know, I was in the field for a long time as a surveyor.
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When we would cut bush, we would have to take the deadfall, you lay it to the ground, take
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some chainsaw work or a mulcher, and you've got to break it up, cut it into a bucket up,
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would call it six foot lengths take the limbs off it so you're not leaving a fire hazard behind but
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it's labor-intensive it's expensive and if you're looking to do a large area it's going to take some
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it is and there is this self-justifying philosophy that well actually you should leave it there so
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that it can rot you know yeah and you can make it rot if you cut it into enough pieces and lay it
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flat but if it goes naturally tends to lean on the next tree and then you've got this nice dry twig
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sitting up there they call them fire ladders because it'll go right to the tops if it burns
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And they were talking about 300-foot-high walls of flame in Jasper, and that's exactly what.
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Well, let's say when it's choked with that much deadfall, then you've got a much hotter fire, a faster-traveling fire,
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and a fire that's much more difficult to stop the spread of or put out.
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So we'll kind of segue that into another exclusive that the Western Standard had, though, when we're talking about fire.
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So yes, let's turn to our Sean Polzer, who got an exclusive on this, where it appears an Alberta company may have had something that really could have helped mitigate the issue and protect some buildings, but they couldn't do so during the case of this fire.
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Well, it appears that this company, Firefox, is out of Onaway, and the fellow who owns it is a canola farmer.
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and he's developed a proprietary um you you know like that foam that they spray out of water bombers
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uh he and he compared it to snot it's it's made from a polymer gel and canola oil and basically
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you spray this thing on fires and it helps kill them and so he did the colonna fire well he he
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was the only one who did the colonna fire but he was called in and i believe it was in 2002
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two, and he managed to save, you remember those train trestles that were going? So you
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can spray, you can paint buildings with this stuff, you can spray it from the air, you
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can shoot it from a fire truck. And when that fire was rolling through the valley there,
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they managed to save one of the trestles. They did it again. He claims to be the only
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guy that's ever been able to put out a level five fire. So I said, what's a level five
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fire. And he goes, well, this is exactly what happened with Jasper. And after last year's
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wildfire seasons, he's been in negotiations with the Alberta government to become an exclusive
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kind of distributor of this product, you know, for the Alberta Forest Service. And apparently
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the negotiations have been going on through various phases. You know how contract negotiations
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go you know ebb and flow they go up and down and when Jasper hit so in any event it's not clear
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whether or not um he actually would have you know you know what I mean if it was available because
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Jasper's managed by the national park right not uh from the Alberta government and uh that was
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the question that I actually did put to uh Premier Smith yesterday uh she wants the rules of engagement
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basically to be overhauled so that I think Alberta government has some limited influence over what
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goes on in town but they don't have it over the park they don't really have a say in the
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forest management practices that you were talking about like prescribed burns
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you know I did I did an interesting comparison forgive me if I'm going on a little long here
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but when you were talking about prescribed burns so I think they did a prescribed burn it was like
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50 hectares last year right there are 18 million hectares of pine beetle infested forests in
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canada and when you're talking about forestry practices you have to look at countries like
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sweden and finland that have very they have developed forestry industries they don't have
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natural parks per se but they call them natural areas and they're they're used for recreation as
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well as industry the total number of pine beetle hector infested acres since 2018 20 000. they use
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ai they use satellites to track these outbreaks and then as soon as they find them they go in
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there and they stop them uh they remove the dead wood they replant and that's it they move on yeah
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well in a whole lot of areas too though i mean outside of the national parks or even within
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And the pine beetle killed trees and things that they're far enough from populated areas that if
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they caught up, we could let them burn. I mean, you know, even if it's not a prescribed fire,
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and I think that's often the case. I mean, people talk about Alberta has 170 fires burning right
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now. And yes, but most of them are, you know, way out in the boreal forest, and they're just
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letting them burn. People don't realize that. Right. Like the fire in Fort McMurray actually
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burned out in saskatchewan it burned on for months it didn't actually extinguish itself until like
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march of the next year so it burned for almost a complete year and it traveled through the whole
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entire forest before it just naturally extinguished in the bog so yeah and the problem is when these
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fires are close to infrastructure right so this fellow rick solomon it sounds to me what the
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hold up is environmental certification because these fire retardants are not always good for
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water bodies. So he's claiming that his is, that it's all natural product and he's had it studied
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about 20 times and it sounds to me like there's some kind of an issue with the environmental
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certification of the product even though it has been approved by the U.S. Forest Service in the U.S.
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Yeah, unfortunately, bureaucracy makes it difficult to get things done too terribly quickly.
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I mean, you know, lots of companies claim a lot of things, but if it's an effective product
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and he really has been putting forth with this and been held up, I mean, it's just one
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more I told you so going on in this whole disaster, which is unfortunate, you know,
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with a lot of people giving a lot of warning for a long time or offering ways to have mitigated
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Absolutely. And one of the points that we did talk about was prescribed burns. So like, as you said, prescribed burns are dangerous because you have to typically do them from the ground. It's labor intensive. So what he does is he lays like a band of this gel, maybe a couple of kilometers long, right? So that's kind of like your backstop on it. And then they burn forward. And then they can actually control the direction of where the fire is going.
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you know, with helicopters and by spraying, they're actually moving the direction of,
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you know, the fire through these burns, and he claims they can burn, like, thousands of
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Well, I'm looking forward to you following up with this, Sean, and find out what's
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And hopefully, all the same, whatever happens, we've learned from it, and hopefully this
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man's product works as well, as he says, and we can get it applied to avoid future damage
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well okay well i'll let you get to them and uh we'll get back to the show then sean so
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thanks for your time there and that's our sean pulser on a a new product in there but we're
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the most popular, incredible, you know, beatific politician out there, beloved
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Kamala Harris. Apparently, she's just the darling of North America now, Dave.
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Well, we've misunderstood her all along, and we've only got ourselves to blame.
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um apparently she has the best best vice president in u.s history and will become the best president
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in u.s history uh she's being uh revamped by the democratic party as you know it's their only hope
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so they have to do what they have to do but it should be fairly easy for the trump campaign to
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show these this this revamping it isn't working she did not fix the border she did not fix
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California when she was a prosecutor there. And I think she's been one of the least ineffective
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vice presidents in U.S. history. So good luck on the revamp.
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Well, you know, Dave, I hope that she continues to be ineffective because if she were actually
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to govern, say she won, if she were actually to govern on the basis of what she really thinks,
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when her reputation and her job was not on the line
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and she was just being asked what she thought about things.
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This is the most radical politician that we've seen for some time,
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not merely in the United States, even in Venezuela.
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I just did a bit of scanning back over the news here.
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single-payer socialized healthcare system which is a very large step for the united states to take
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after their scare with obamacare she wants full firearm confiscation so far she's sounding like
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mr trudeau she's talking about tax rates for upper income learners up to as much as 90 percent
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oh she wants the aoc's new green deal deal she supported the rioters in 2020 at the george floyd
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Now, I realize she's a woman of color, and for many people,
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it was black people that got killed by other black people.
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It wasn't a good, it was not a good thing.
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She even, I think, she'd get a fund going for bail
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Steve Winick- Of course, she supports the defund the police.
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ICE is the border agency that she was supposed
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to be overseeing down there, and what she could do is criticize them
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while they were trying to keep the illegal immigrants out.
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And she said they were keeping out, but in actual fact,
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hundreds of thousands of millions crossed during the time
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About a week ago, Pete Buttigieg came out and said,
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So, you know, calling and letting millions of people in
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to actually cover their accommodation, their health,
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their education, all the other things, it is a very,
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on why they just anointed her with biden's blessing because they could have actually milked
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the news cycle for a whole month if they had allowed other people to contend for the nomination
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you know how that goes but they they actually decided to give up all that air time to make sure
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they got her. And this is the stuff that they are now, with the willing connivance of the
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American left-wing media, trying to rehabilitate her as just a regular girl next door who
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could be the greatest president ever, you know? So there's a lot going on there. We're
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going to have to stay on top of it. But this is, can I use the word whitewash? John?
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oh yes well you already did i guess i did yeah what uh she carries no shortage of baggage i
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mean that's a challenge you have with any politician who's been in for a while or done
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things uh and you know she's been able to kind of quietly sit in the background for some time but
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she's going to get the harsh scrutiny of a an opposing campaign and it tells you something
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about a person is how do they keep their subordinates she is apparently uh a witch to
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work for um sounds like our governor general's well you know some people do do do feel the burden
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of office uh acutely and take it out on their subordinates but you know you need somebody who's
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a little more delicate with their own people than that you do i think her biggest uh biggest problem
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is going to be the border 11 million or there's reports of up to 11 million people coming in
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obviously some of them will be not very nice people uh you look at the problems they've had
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You know, so any city that has had those migrants come in
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and cause chaos is going to blame Kamala Harris
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because if she is under her watch as the borders are,
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All right, the coverage that she's getting now
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Well, I mean, this kind of was kind of years in the making, too.
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I mean, they used the border as a hammer to hit the Trump administration with over and over.
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We had AOC crying at the fence and all the theatrics and baloney going on down there.
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So they campaigned on essentially being permissive with the border.
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I don't think any government's managed to keep that border from being terribly, you know, porous as it is.
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But they've said, we're going to let folks in.
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we're going to normalize illegal immigration. In fact,
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we aren't even going to call it illegal immigration anymore. And as Dave said,
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they're starting to feel the consequences of that sort of policy and even
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progressive minded people, if they're scared to go out their front door,
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if they're having issues going on because of unchecked immigration,
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they're going to vote with what's going on out there and then come,
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I think their plan was probably okay. Let's get 11 million people in.
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And that's 11 million votes for us in November, right?
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Now they're getting the idea what this is really all about.
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Well, it's going to be hard for her when things really push.
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Because, I mean, one of the things I've always found with her is she reminds me of our prime minister.
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Getting a straight answer out of her is nearly impossible.
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And when people are looking for some strength on solid issues, I don't think they want to hear a long, wispy bunch of platitudes.
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They want to hear somebody with some stances, and she's not going to be able to provide them.
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It's just going to be such an ugly election, this one.
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I mean, the other thing that's striking, though, is it's the media stinking these lines, not parties.
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and, you know, polarized media, there's no middle ground anymore.
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No, you're either a left-wing media or you're a right-wing media.
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Well, other than Fox News, is there a right-wing,
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Not a mainstream type thing, but you've got the Tucker Carlson's
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and, you know, that are doing their own thing on the Internet,
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conservatives are dominating the independent media yeah and they've sure you've got more listeners
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than cnn or msnbc right so well that that is your conservative media but when we use that
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expression i think people are thinking of television stations newspapers and really the
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cnn msnbc abc cbs they are all very much saying the same thing even right down to the words it's
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This is the word for the day, and then they all repeat it.
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As soon as Trump's shock of the assassination attempt had worn off,
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and it was pretty clear that he was going to be the nominee and he was going to be the candidate,
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and that polls were indicating that he was going to win just before Kamala.
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Boy, our media here, the Globe and Mail, the Toronto Star, the CBC,
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they went beyond reporting into vicious character attacks.
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And, you know, Andrew Coyne, for example, writing, I think it was in the Globe and Mail,
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And then he presented his checklist of awful things about Donald Trump,
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most of which, of course, was that it would be terrible for trade.
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Well, you know, just this week we had Brian Lee Crowley on
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and a couple of other columnists who were talking about
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Not much will change, but the viciousness of it was a surprise to me.
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come up with this if you're if you support trump you're weird and oh and it's all over
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and uh uh you know pictures of you know it's it's like uh the back in the deplorable days
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uh and this is the deplorable was the word for that election now this one is weird so jd vance
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thinks it's a great thing for a man and a woman to get married and have children and he applause
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it in his catholic alma mater that's weird that's weird pretty weird apparently so but
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But having green hair and identifying as a kumquat is perfectly fine.
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Well, let's pivot to where times are stable and normal and things are going quite well.
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So, I mean, Hezbollah has been lobbing, actually, rockets and missiles into Israel for decades.
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They're a terrorist group, even if our foreign affairs minister doesn't understand that.
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They crossed the line in Golan Heights recently.
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They killed a bunch of children playing soccer.
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And Israel had quite a retaliation the other day, Dave.
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And ironically, it wasn't Jewish kids who were killed.
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But yeah, you don't blow up kids in a soccer field.
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And Israel vowed massive revenge, and they dropped a bomb on the head of Hezbollah yesterday in Beirut and took him out.
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I think they're just starting, and they will turn southern Lebanon into another Gaza until there's no more threats.
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And you'll also remember right after Gaza, they announced all the heads of Hamas,
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anybody that had anything to do with it, were dead men walking.
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And they proved that later on yesterday, early this morning,
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when they dropped a bomb on the new head of Hamas in Tehran, of all places.
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You know, just right after the inauguration of the new Iranian president.
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Utter embarrassment, utter diplomatic slap in the face for Iran.
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They're vowing and screaming in the streets, death to the USA, as they always do, and vowing revenge.
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The last time they fired a few hundred missiles, Israel shot them all down.
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You know, it just reminds me of 1972, after the Munich Massacre, when Golda Meir unleashed the wrath of God,
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and Israel systematically eliminated everybody involved in that terrorist attack,
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No matter where they were in the world, they didn't care what the world said, they killed them.
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It's been happening with Hamas, and Hezbollah is next on the hit list.
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And for the sake of the viewers, we may not have checked the main page yet.
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Dave Makachuk has an excellent piece this morning on that very thing.
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It makes the relationship between the Munich massacre and these massacres.
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and points out that really the Mossad has been under some suspicion of being slack.
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I don't know if anybody ever thought they were that slack.
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I'm just looking at it as far as when they do their foreign outreach.
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I mean, the only ones that might be more terrified to be on the hit list for the Mossad might be, you know, again, Russia, where they love their poisons and things like that.
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But, I mean, they are a relentless organization.
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When you guys have done this to us, we're going to get to you.
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The Houthis recently, too, in Yemen, they blew up that fuel depot.
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I mean, it's been sickening watching some of the coverage of what's going on.
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And they won't ask themselves, what do you expect Israel to do?
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They beat back those wimpy Arabs when it came to that war.
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So you're going to constantly attack, constantly attack, and then wag your finger and say, don't you dare defend yourselves.
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well we have that same mentality in our own country if you defend yourself against an intruder
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in your home you need to do it by the book or you're it's a there is an unfortunate
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personality characteristic very common in comfortable societies of which ours is one
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people hate unpleasantness now in the middle east they live with unpleasantness all the time
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so they're used to it i'm not saying that's a good thing but at least they understand that there's a
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cause and effect you blow up my kids i'm coming for you in this country in the united states in
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great britain i don't think people see it quite so clearly they they just don't want any trouble
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we've had it good we haven't had to live in a community where the air raid sirens go off every
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you know month or so because somebody's lobbying some well not for about 90 years yeah anyways
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yeah and you know any other country any other country if a neighboring country was constantly
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lobbing attacks over the border. Nobody would question that country defending itself. If Canada
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was launching attacks into Buffalo, New York from Niagara, the Americans wouldn't put up with it
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for a second. No country's going to do that, except Israel somehow is expected to say, well, just
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let it go. They're under siege. They have been for decades. You never know. You're walking around
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downtown Tel Aviv and a bomb blows up a bus. They've been living with that for forever now.
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And in the Olympics, I think, what, two days ago was it?
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The Israeli team takes the floor and the crowd starts chatting.
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Yeah, I mean, it's them against the world.
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So maybe, not that I'm expecting it, but maybe these people who want to see peace
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should start pressuring the attackers for a change,
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because Israel's not going to stop defending themselves.
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You would think they'd be smart enough to think,
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there might be not as many applicants for the job this time around.
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And they might think twice about, okay, hey, why don't we launch an attack here?
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Because they will know that they will soon be dead.
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I guess that's the religious fever that they carry.
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Well, and then we've got, you know, one of the members of the state broadcaster here, you know, we had a story on that, was basically saying Israel shouldn't have killed that terrorist leader and bemoaning the loss of him, because the world is certainly a much worse place with the lack of how it's named Ismail Hanyan.
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Yeah, I think the CBC is a guy called Dale Brown. He's based in London as a foreign correspondent. So he would be a top CBC reporter. He tweeted, yeah, he was basically mourning the death of this guy this morning, which, you know, as we wrote in the story, it's just giving Pierre Polyev another excuse to defund the CBC. And he tweeted it about it angrily this morning. He said, you know, defund CBC, eliminate Hamas.
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I'm not even sure a reporter should be making those kinds of editorial calls.
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He certainly has let us all know how he approaches that particular situation.
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We will read his reports and listen to his reports with that in mind.
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Well, yeah, anything that the CBC covers out of the Middle East, you have to look on with skepticism.
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One thing that's been interesting, at least some common sense out of the Canadian Foreign Affairs Department,
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They're going to clean out southern Lebanon.
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Kind of like, you know, the forest fire mitigation.
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You've got to build a buffer around your place because if you let it build up, it's going to burn you later.
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There's a whole lot of Canadians at convenience over there.
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We discovered that the last time Israel and Lebanon decided to go at it.
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We ended up shipping and hauling and pulling back.
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But Canada's Ford Affair is saying, we really recommend you guys get out of there, but we're not going to pay for your freight this time.
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You know, every country in the world has warned their citizens, get out of southern Lebanon.
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And if they choose to stay, they, you know, it's on them.
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Don't look to us to, I don't think we have a Navy, to put a ship offshore and save you.
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If the Americans launch a big rescue effort, maybe we can, you know, hitchhike.
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But the Canadian military doesn't have that force.
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So, yeah, if you're there, you're a Canadian of convenience.
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You might want to use that status and get to safety.
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At least, again, they aren't offering the rides for them.
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So we'll see with, you know, the prioritization of evacuations for people from war zones is a little troublesome for Canada as it is anyways.
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And I guess, you know, it's not quite related, but it's tied into the whole tensions.
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I guess we'll turn over to, you know, England, just a terrible situation.
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And as I said, the powder keg that's going on in Great Britain right now.
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see ethnic clashes, you know, and it was really triggered by that horrific murder of a bunch of
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children. Yeah, it took place in Stockport, which is basically a suburb of Liverpool on the
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northern east coast of England. It was a hot day. The door to the daycare was left open.
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The kids were inside, happily having a Taylor Swift-themed day when a 17-year-old kid in a
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black hoodie, came in with a large knife and slaughtered them, killed two little girls,
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precious little girls instantly. Another one died in hospital the next day. Five other kids are
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currently in critical condition, along with two adults, including the teacher, tried to protect
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the children as adults do. A brave passerby heard the screaming, dashed in, and was able to tackle
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the man before a kid before more damage was done but it was quickly quickly out on the internet
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the source of all good good good and untrue information that the kid was a migrant and
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police said no he's not a migrant he's from cardiff but that didn't stop the mob and they rioted last
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night and they put 50 cops in the hospital they burned police vehicles they damaged a mosque
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the same internet is now reporting that the family is the mom came in as a migrant family
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came in as a migrant and the kid was kid was born here kid was apparently well known to
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liverpool mental health officials he's obviously mentally ill because nobody does this kind of
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thing but tensions have been building in england for years now migrants coming in by the hundreds
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of thousands, daily trips across the English Channel. In the recent election, it caused a
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rise of the Reform Party, and Niall Farage, who's a right-wing politician who says he will kick them
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all out. But it's the powder keg, guys, the powder keg, that it doesn't take much to kick off these
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tensions uh and you know canada now has 500 000 undocumented migrants we don't know where they are
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we don't know who they are but tensions are building in canada housing crisis homelessness
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the protests in in places like toronto in support of hamas tensions are building in canada and
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something needs to be done in my opinion before we get to that level that they are in england
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Unfortunately, the approach of governments in England
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and Canada alike tend to be to say, no, nothing to see here.
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And do you think you can find, this came off Wikipedia,
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you know, typed in stabbing incidents, what have you got?
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Do you think in any case they're identified or just?
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Because if there was a pattern discovered there,
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then that's a hard thing for the government to justify
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And with the nasty suspicion that there probably is.
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And then you find out, switching back to Canada
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very emphatically here now, you find that in the middle
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let's not beat about the bush no pro hamas protesters are targeting jewish businesses
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schools residential areas are going into shopping malls to make their point at christmas time
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upsetting the tranquility of the of the country and all of that is going on with no audible rebuke
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from the government of canada the government of canada quietly issues another 3 000 visas
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for palestinian refugees to come to canada if you are a ghazan resident you probably would want to
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get out but what's the plan when you get here are you going to continue as some ethnic minorities
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do, the homeland's old fight? I don't know, but it is a risk, and it is a risk that governments
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won't even talk about. Well, the government needs to start dealing with the unacceptable
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protests, attacks, things that are going on, and they've got to quit being cowardly, because
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that is what's bringing the mobs out, and the mobs are the worst. That is so dangerous,
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So wrong. I mean, that the mosque that they attacked, I'm sure 95% of the congregation were people who weren't causing any harm.
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You know, unfortunately, there's a 5% who are, and that could still add up to a lot of dangerous people.
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We've got to address the cultural and religious issues so that we do have a more troublesome group than others.
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But if we leave it to the mob to deal with it, that's when you'll hear the stories, too, of the innocent person of color who just stepped out in the street at the wrong time when the pitchforks were going by that suddenly find themselves beat up.
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That's what a mob does, you know, when you'll see houses attack because people were of the wrong color, even if they had nothing to do with it.
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But if we keep kicking the can down the road, the vigilantes are going to rise up and it's going to be a much uglier reckoning.
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And it's not just England. It's Europe. You know, Sweden's having huge migrant problems. Germany's having huge migrant problems. They're all talking about mass deportation. And, you know, just look at the United States below us. They're having huge problems. And Trump is promising the biggest deportation in human history. But you're right. It has to be dealt with. And right now we're not.
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This should be making, if I tell you what, there's a double standard.
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If that was a mosque, it would be making news.
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And Toronto police initially blamed it was just a homeless guy sleeping there.
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Ezra Levant, Rebel News, had, you know, the video.
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and basically forced Toronto police to do something about it.
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They were just going to rub it right under the table and say,
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When the Calgary Synagogue was defaced the other day, that upside-down triangle,
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which for people, if they're wondering, that's the Hamas swastika is what it is.
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We're having this happening in our streets with our communities, with our neighbors.
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And I hate to say it, but they're neighbors that have been good ones for Canada.
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I haven't found the Palestinian contribution to our area.
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Do Jewish people have to be philanthropists in order to be acceptable?
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but I suspect that's part of why they feel more inclined as well,
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whether they founded a theater or played for one.
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It shows how quickly the community will turn on them anyways,
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Well, you know, we've got some terribly hateful practices happening and building in this country.
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You know, the Nazi salutes at the Olympics, the hate marches with Hamas supporters in every city in the country.
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And, yes, citizens are going to start getting up and say, well, if the state won't deal with it, I will.
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Like I said, what happened in England is the powder keg is the right turn.
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And if something isn't done, it'll ignite one day.
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It gets down the road a lot of us don't want to talk about.
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But as you said, patterns, if we start looking at some of these things.
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I mean, I recently, you know, I got a bunch of people upset with me on X because I put a posting out.
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Because I found all of the 30-something listed terror organizations by Canada, the ones I actually designated.
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I mean, there's more trouble coming from a particular segment than others, I understand.
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There's some Sikh extremists and there's some white nationalist lunatics out there,
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We've got one area more problematic than the rest.
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Is it possible to have a discussion on that, though,
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and figure out how we might be able to mitigate that?
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because you know what comes up as soon as you bring it up every time.
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you're a racist and then you know save for another show but a religion isn't a race
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no no i mean islam supposed to be a religion of peace and as you say uh look at all all you know
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father and son uh arrested in toronto today as as terrorists and hey guess what they're islamic
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coincidence just a coincidence ah well figure it out eventually maybe our kids will or our
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our grandkids or somebody. For now, we'll try and come up with the answers we can here once a week
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on the pipeline. And we've run out of time. We haven't hit the magic bullet answer on that one,
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but maybe next week we'll figure it out. So. Yep. When Derek's back, then. Yes. I can go watch the
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Olympics. That's right. All right. Well, thank you guys. Go here for that young woman who only
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swimming gold. 17 years old, was she? 17. Summer McIntosh. Great Canadian story. For everybody out
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there you know what i mean don't worry about the opening ceremony as any other stuff taking the
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olympics take a break from the political stuff the high stress stuff we're here for that we'll cover
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that but enjoy some of it there's good news stories out there too we just don't find them
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