Western Standard - February 03, 2020


Guns, Disease, Oil and Pride - The Pipeline, Episode 6


Episode Stats

Length

25 minutes

Words per Minute

164.47711

Word Count

4,215

Sentence Count

262

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

In this episode, Western Standards National Affairs' Peter McKay and Fildebrandt discuss the dramatic increase in restricted firearm sales in Canada since Prime Minister Justin Trudeau came to power in 2015, and the implications for the country s gun control laws.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 You're listening to The Pipeline, the Western Standards National Affairs Program, recording
00:00:15.760 this Wednesday, January 28th, 2020.
00:00:20.360 Each week we break down the issues, discuss them in depth, and examine some of the broader
00:00:25.000 implications for Western Canada and beyond.
00:00:29.240 And welcome, Western Standards publisher, Derek Fildebrandt from Calgary.
00:00:37.680 Hello.
00:00:38.680 Or should I say hello?
00:00:41.680 Hello, Derek.
00:00:43.820 And welcome also, Dave Naylor, our news editor, also from Calgary.
00:00:48.700 Is that right?
00:00:50.700 It is.
00:00:51.700 I thought so.
00:00:52.700 You know, I didn't have it in my notes.
00:00:54.700 We're going to know today's show, so let's get right to it.
00:00:57.200 My memory is, it doesn't always fail me.
00:01:00.640 And hosted by myself, digital editor Paul Holmes from Victoria, British Columbia.
00:01:07.240 And the topics this week are gun sales, Aaron O'Toole, Peter McKay, the Tech Oil Sands Project,
00:01:18.640 and we'll see what else we end up talking about this week, but why don't we kick it off with-
00:01:25.080 Surely we won't go down any tangents.
00:01:27.080 Absolutely.
00:01:28.080 No tangents on this show, folks.
00:01:30.080 We're going to kick it off with gun sales.
00:01:33.080 Dave, why don't you give us the very latest breaking news?
00:01:37.080 Well, today, figures were revealed by the Canadian Firearms Commissioner that since Justin Trudeau
00:01:44.520 came to power, sales of restricted automatic weapons have actually gone up almost 24%, and
00:01:53.200 most people seem to credit that with the fact, well, Trudeau said he was going to ban them.
00:01:57.400 So people rushed out to buy them to make sure they could get them before the ban came in.
00:02:03.080 Seems like a sort of natural human response when something's going to be banned and you
00:02:10.240 want to have one of those things, right?
00:02:12.320 Derek, what do you think?
00:02:14.320 Oh, I think it's great news.
00:02:16.320 The only thing I like more than more gun stories is more guns.
00:02:22.540 So this was a 24% increase in restricted firearm sales.
00:02:27.260 I should specify that's restricted, not all guns.
00:02:30.200 So the vast majority of guns in Canada are not restricted.
00:02:33.440 They're, you know, typical long guns that you'd use for shooting clays or ducks and targets.
00:02:40.440 These are restricted firearms.
00:02:42.440 So all pistols, all handguns, and some long guns that the government thinks are too scary
00:02:49.560 for people to have, most of which I think are misclassified, but that's not really the
00:02:54.200 point of this.
00:02:55.200 And so the restricted firearms, the legally recorded sales have gone up by 24% in just
00:03:01.680 the first three years of his time as prime minister.
00:03:06.060 That is a gun boom in Canada.
00:03:08.440 And those sales were disproportionately in the West, although they were obviously across the
00:03:12.440 country.
00:03:13.440 And it adds to the stats already that when you take all legal firearms into account, Canada's
00:03:21.920 already the seventh most heavily armed civilian population in the world.
00:03:27.240 There is a big gap between the first United States and the second.
00:03:30.920 But in that second tier, Canada is near the top.
00:03:34.580 And this points to people being obviously afraid that the government's going to come and take their
00:03:39.240 otherwise lawful property and times are booming for guns.
00:03:44.180 So we are the seventh most heavily armed country in the world.
00:03:48.680 Civilian population.
00:03:49.680 Civilian.
00:03:50.680 Yeah.
00:03:51.680 Well, that's yeah.
00:03:52.680 Yeah.
00:03:53.680 If we were ever invaded, I don't think our military could do terribly much.
00:03:55.900 We don't have much of one.
00:03:58.140 But I think farmers and pitchforks with their gopher guns could do quite a bit.
00:04:06.120 So what how does this align with the mythos of Canada being this peaceful, you know, practically
00:04:15.560 gun free country that, you know, we imagine being, I guess, neighbors to the United States.
00:04:22.360 I assume that the United States is the most or very close to the most heavily armed civilian
00:04:27.020 population in the world.
00:04:30.420 On that on that list.
00:04:31.360 Well, it's kind of a part of the Canada doesn't have any great founding myths the way most
00:04:36.680 nations do.
00:04:37.680 The United States has the American Revolution and the Great Founding Fathers and the War
00:04:42.140 of Independence.
00:04:43.360 These great founding myths that nations almost have to have, especially if you are a colonial
00:04:48.920 nation as we are, not an old European or Asian old world nation state, but something
00:04:54.900 fashioned sort of out of the wilderness.
00:04:58.360 And so Canada's founding myths were invented sort of post-World War.
00:05:04.520 And we mostly just said we're North American, but not American.
00:05:07.740 So we've unfortunately defined ourselves not in terms of what we are, but in terms of what
00:05:12.480 we're not.
00:05:13.480 Americans have private health care, so we'll have government health care.
00:05:16.160 Americans have guns, so we won't have guns.
00:05:18.960 But that's never, these false founding myths have never been rooted in terribly much more
00:05:25.620 than political propaganda.
00:05:27.780 Canadians don't have as many guns as Americans.
00:05:29.860 We don't have a constitutional right to bear arms as they have with the Second Amendment
00:05:33.900 United States.
00:05:35.360 But gun ownership is very much a part of Canada's culture, particularly in rural and Western Canada,
00:05:42.100 where those founding myths have never really taken hold to the same degree.
00:05:46.060 And I love it.
00:05:47.060 I mean, if I was to flip my camera around right now, you'd see a small armory hanging
00:05:52.820 on my wall.
00:05:55.300 But it's...
00:05:56.300 I, in contrast, have nothing hanging on my wall.
00:05:58.880 Well, you're in an undisclosed location for waterboarding.
00:06:03.560 We had to get that out somewhere in the episode, so...
00:06:08.740 But yeah, this is, this kind of myth is very much a part of the two Canada's, that doesn't
00:06:16.680 really bear that much semblance in reality.
00:06:18.520 We have more guns than, I think, any nation in Europe, except for, I think, Switzerland.
00:06:23.500 But don't you think, Derek, that Canadians would be surprised?
00:06:28.400 You know, unless they're gun enthusiasts.
00:06:31.640 The average Canadian walking down the street, you say, we're the seventh most heavily armed
00:06:36.660 civilian population in the world, don't you think most Canadians would be really surprised
00:06:40.800 to hear that?
00:06:41.800 Well, actually, it surprised me.
00:06:42.800 And I'm a gun enthusiast.
00:06:43.800 I believe very strongly in firearms rights.
00:06:46.820 I've got my own collection.
00:06:49.300 But it surprised even me when I was doing the research.
00:06:52.780 I mean, when I'm talking about ranking nations by their civilian gun ownership, I'm talking
00:06:58.660 about legal ownership.
00:06:59.660 I'm not talking about illegal.
00:07:01.660 I imagine Somalia would be pretty high up there with illegal gun ownership.
00:07:06.480 And that's not where we want to be.
00:07:08.360 But what this will interestingly do is when the Liberals, they haven't really defined it
00:07:12.580 yet, when they bring in their ill-defined gun bans, this will take a bunch of guns.
00:07:19.500 I think they're going to be surprised by how many, how few people are willing to hand over
00:07:22.900 their stuff to the government just because they said so.
00:07:25.820 So a lot of people are just going to bury their guns or hide them at the cabin or something.
00:07:30.120 So Canada's illegal gun numbers will probably skyrocket while our legal gun numbers go down.
00:07:38.000 That doesn't mean there'll be any more guns off the streets.
00:07:40.660 And I personally know quite a few people and I intend to be one myself who's going to buy
00:07:44.900 a bunch of these things before they ban them.
00:07:46.940 Yeah.
00:07:47.940 With the exception of Alberta, is this mostly an urban rural issue?
00:07:53.540 You know, I mean, if I lived in Toronto and, you know, sort of, or for that matter, Surrey,
00:07:59.940 and you know, you hear about gun violence happening, it's mostly obviously with illegal guns.
00:08:05.700 But, you know, it happens in, you know, down the road for a lot of people, right?
00:08:12.340 So they're, you know, they have a, I think, I think you could argue a very natural fear
00:08:16.760 of guns because they know that people get shot in, you know, in their city.
00:08:22.360 Whereas I think, you know, the duck hunter or the farmer is trying to deal with the gopher
00:08:26.960 problem.
00:08:28.020 You know, they don't, they just don't see guns the same way.
00:08:30.840 And I wonder if our government appreciates and understands, you know, that these are two
00:08:35.120 different issues and, you know, two very different perceptions and how, is there a way in this
00:08:40.020 country that we can bridge those, those two things?
00:08:43.780 Well, I think I've got some, several friends in, in Calgary that are avid gun enthusiasts.
00:08:51.640 They have probably just as many weapons as Derek in their houses, if not more.
00:08:56.980 And the shooting clubs are just a huge, almost booming industry.
00:09:03.920 You try and go one weekend and you just can't get in.
00:09:07.380 There's so many people there, you know, people are booking parties and wedding parties and,
00:09:13.420 and stuff like that.
00:09:14.420 So I think a lot of people in, in urban areas enjoy shooting.
00:09:20.360 Most of them don't have their own guns.
00:09:21.720 They go and rent what they want at the, at the shooting gallery.
00:09:25.300 And, you know, and as Derek says, the, the government hasn't even defined what they're
00:09:30.060 going to ban yet.
00:09:31.060 So.
00:09:32.060 Right.
00:09:33.060 This is what I'm wondering, I mean, are they going to, is there, are they going to recognize
00:09:37.180 this urban rural divide and, and act appropriately, or are they going to just ban, you know, this
00:09:41.700 is a scary looking gun, they're going to ban it everywhere, including the duck farm in, you
00:09:47.240 know, Northern Alberta.
00:09:49.000 Well, there's a few angles to this.
00:09:50.000 There's a few angles to it.
00:09:52.000 Part of, so they're going to ban what they call, I'll put in quotes, military style assault
00:09:58.040 rifles.
00:09:59.040 That's problematic because assault rifles have been banned under the last Trudeau in the
00:10:02.680 early 1970s, they were banned.
00:10:05.000 If you own an assault rifle today, you will go to jail.
00:10:08.000 They'll take your gun license and they will put you in jail.
00:10:10.940 So I think very, there are zero people in Canada who own legal military style assault
00:10:16.080 rifles.
00:10:17.080 But they also talk about just military style.
00:10:18.300 What does that mean?
00:10:19.560 No one's defined that.
00:10:21.160 It's essentially just guns that look scary.
00:10:24.400 So I've got a friend who's got an SKS.
00:10:27.460 It's just a pretty standard semi-automatic gun.
00:10:29.260 Again, most of them don't even understand what semi-automatic means, but it's like Rambo,
00:10:33.980 right?
00:10:34.980 Yeah, but he's kind of tricked it out, replaced it with carbonite stock, the wood stock with,
00:10:40.120 composite and whatnot.
00:10:41.120 And it looks like something Rambo would carry up the Mekong, but it's just a pretty traditional
00:10:44.860 gun and you can actually go deer hunting with it if you want.
00:10:49.000 But that presumably could very well be banned because it looks scary.
00:10:52.500 So we don't really know what they're going to ban.
00:10:54.000 In terms of the urban rural divide, they've said it in the legislation, which has not yet
00:10:58.160 been tabled, that they're also going to give municipalities the right to ban handguns.
00:11:02.940 I'm not sure what that's going to do because most people who don't own handguns in Canada
00:11:07.340 don't understand how onerous it is.
00:11:09.620 So to own a handgun, you have to be a member of a gun club.
00:11:13.020 You have to go through very extensive background checks.
00:11:17.220 You've got to go through an extensive process to purchase it.
00:11:19.580 You have to go through a very onerous storage process to keep the gun in your own home.
00:11:27.460 If you want to take the gun to the range, you have to call the RCMP's Chief Firearms Officer's
00:11:32.340 Office and tell them the exact route along which you're going to take and if you're going
00:11:36.540 to stop to go to the bathroom along the way.
00:11:38.940 It's practically the closest thing you can have to a ban without it.
00:11:42.520 But if they ban it, say in Calgary, I'm not sure how they're going to stop guns from
00:11:46.420 Chestermere or Cochrane from passing through it.
00:11:48.960 It's really a very nonsensical idea that's just going to make criminals out of a lot of
00:11:53.360 otherwise law-abiding people.
00:11:55.340 Well, I think we could conclude the segment by saying, Dave, when I come visit you guys
00:12:01.800 in spring, I do expect a surprise party at the gun range.
00:12:05.160 So make sure that happens, all right?
00:12:06.840 Oh, absolutely.
00:12:07.840 Absolutely.
00:12:08.840 It'll be a blast.
00:12:09.840 It'll be a blast.
00:12:10.840 And I'm going to shoot every single one of Derek's guns, the ones that are operational.
00:12:14.720 I think we need to do a special edition from the Shooting Edge in Calgary and we'll just
00:12:20.780 have to find a quieter room because it's a rather noisy place.
00:12:22.780 I can imagine.
00:12:23.780 Yeah, there's a bit of background noise.
00:12:26.860 Over to the Conservative leadership race.
00:12:29.160 We have a formal campaign kickoff, as I understand.
00:12:34.020 Is that right, Dave, with Aaron O'Toole?
00:12:36.400 Yeah.
00:12:37.400 Peter McKay announced on the weekend he was officially in, Aaron O'Toole, Ontario MP.
00:12:44.920 He's from Durham, which is sort of outlying Toronto.
00:12:48.500 He threw his hat into the ring this week.
00:12:52.400 And the two of them immediately sort of got into a pride parade debate with each one of
00:12:58.600 them trying to clamor over the other one to say they would march in the debates.
00:13:04.140 But O'Toole put a bit of a caveat on his.
00:13:07.440 He said he would not march in any debates that had banned police officers.
00:13:11.520 Right.
00:13:12.520 Yeah.
00:13:13.520 You know, a lot of the major pride parades do ban police officers.
00:13:16.720 Well, and actually, I've been in pride parades myself.
00:13:22.320 I have not attended the last two in Victoria precisely because they did that.
00:13:27.600 Like, why is it that an organization that existed to lift up people, you know, from an identifiable
00:13:35.800 and, you know, historically, I guess, discriminated against group, discriminating.
00:13:43.600 It doesn't make any sense to me.
00:13:45.800 So, you know, I assume Aaron O'Toole is more in alignment with my thinking on that for sure.
00:13:52.000 But it is a very hot button issue for people.
00:13:56.000 You know, as you said, Paul, people can't really understand why the pride organizers are banning the police.
00:14:04.000 O'Toole being a former longtime military person, you know, he's probably coming from that angle.
00:14:09.600 Sure.
00:14:10.600 Yeah.
00:14:11.600 It's curious.
00:14:13.600 I mean, I think for a very long time, pride parades were an important statement for an oppressed
00:14:19.200 people for them to to come out of the closet and show that they're not afraid.
00:14:22.800 The first few pride parades in Calgary, people wore masks.
00:14:26.800 It was roughly a dozen people and they wore masks for fear of reprisals, either violence or being fired from their jobs.
00:14:33.800 So even even wearing a mask was a very brave thing to do.
00:14:37.000 And I think it was necessary trying to normalize the gay and lesbian community in the eyes of people and pushing for equal rights.
00:14:45.800 But it's now become, you know, in this intersectional madness, the leadership of many of these pride societies has been hijacked by radical intersectional social activists.
00:14:57.600 And they're banning police officers, in some case military and whatnot, because they're, you know, police would be used to raid bathhouses back in the day.
00:15:06.400 But that's immaterial.
00:15:08.200 Most of these police forces have had their historical apology sort of tour.
00:15:12.200 And no one there is even most of them are several generations removed from active duty of anyone who did did those kinds of things.
00:15:20.200 And it seems odd to me that they're trying to not just that they're excluding someone from an organization that's supposed to be about inclusion.
00:15:29.000 But they're they're not taking a victory, showing this huge symbol of acceptance from the military, from from police.
00:15:36.800 And what's really interesting is there are two groups opposed to police marching in uniform and pride parades, the pride societies and homophobes.
00:15:47.800 Homophobes don't want to see the police marching in these parades.
00:15:51.400 They're like, oh, this is denigrating the uniform.
00:15:54.600 They shouldn't be involved in this.
00:15:57.000 So people who are actually actually do have some lingering bigotry towards the gay and lesbian community.
00:16:03.500 They they want to ban police from marching in these things and simultaneously the extreme intersectional social justice warriors want to ban them.
00:16:12.100 And so I think politically, this has become a hot potato.
00:16:16.600 And so McKay has come out and said these are critical and important and whatnot.
00:16:23.600 And O'Toole has come out and said, I'd be happy to march into them if if they stop this the silliness.
00:16:30.100 And I think that's probably a more balanced perspective to take to take in something like this.
00:16:36.700 But it is interesting to see how parades are becoming sort of this litmus test line in the sand.
00:16:42.500 Yeah, I know in Vancouver, the band department at UBC because they hosted speak speakers that they didn't like.
00:16:54.400 And I actually did a if you go to the Western standards YouTube channel, I actually did an interview with the UBC free speech clubs executive director.
00:17:03.100 And they actually brought in that controversial speaker that ended up inevitably getting UBC banned from the Vancouver pride parade.
00:17:12.100 So, you know, it is there is a lot of silliness and I would, you know, again, I don't and I don't identify with the LGBTQ community myself.
00:17:20.600 So I'm only an outsider looking in, but it's the whole thing just does does seem a bit a bit ridiculous.
00:17:28.600 Anyway, let's move along.
00:17:31.100 Tech oil sands project, Dave, why don't you bring us up to speed on what's happening there and the implications that there may be some tie in with the carbon tax as well, as I understand.
00:17:43.600 Well, Tech is a giant project proposed for Northern Alberta during its construction.
00:17:50.600 It'll create 7000 jobs in a province where those jobs are desperately needed.
00:17:55.600 And when it's done, it'll pump out 260,000 barrels of oil a day.
00:18:00.600 It's been undergoing an environmental assessment since, you know, all the dinosaurs were here, it seems like.
00:18:08.600 The provinces come to agreement or the companies come to agreement with 14 indigenous bands in the area.
00:18:17.600 So it's all systems go except for federal approval.
00:18:20.600 Environment minister yesterday in Ottawa hinted that, you know, the government approval may hinge on what Alberta is doing with its carbon tax.
00:18:32.600 The minister noted that is currently in court trying to oppose the federal carbon tax.
00:18:40.600 And he's basically calling on the province to do more to help Canada get their net emissions down to zero by 2050.
00:18:48.600 So it's some very, very deep implications there on what it may mean.
00:18:54.600 Government supposed to rule by the end of February on it.
00:18:58.600 But they're already talking about delaying.
00:19:02.600 So, you know, we could be in the old retired journalism home before these guys get it approved.
00:19:07.600 What's the, you know, I understood that there was a fairly established process for approval of projects like this.
00:19:16.600 And, you know, you had to tick the boxes and go through the process.
00:19:18.600 And it sounds like the companies behind this did a lot of that legwork.
00:19:23.600 But I guess there is, is it, is it part of the standard process, Derek, for a minister to approve it at the end of that whole application and review process?
00:19:34.600 It wasn't before, but it very much is now.
00:19:37.600 So if you remember, Justin Trudeau jumped on with the NDP, the Green Party and the other extreme green groups in trying to discredit the previous approval process that we had before.
00:19:47.600 It certainly wasn't perfect, but it was, had a lot more certainty.
00:19:50.600 And then they brought in bill C 69 and C 48, which were vigorously opposed by not just the energy industry, but by a lot of major industries that do major infrastructure projects.
00:20:02.600 And now it is a very politically loaded process.
00:20:05.600 You can go through and do everything.
00:20:06.600 But at the end of the day, the politicians have a much more direct say in, in its approval or disapproval.
00:20:13.600 So this is now going to be par for the course.
00:20:16.600 And I think what it's going to increasingly do is discourage major investors from even bothering to apply because it's not like you're not going to spend any money before you apply.
00:20:26.600 You will spend millions or tens or even hundreds of millions we see with Trans Mountain on this kind of project before you even know if you can build it.
00:20:36.600 So why would, without any kind of certainty, why would anyone go forward and do this?
00:20:39.600 I, I think anyone who invests in these kinds of projects is a madman now in Canada.
00:20:44.600 And if not for the fact that this project's been going forward for some time, I don't think they would have started it today for the uncertainty of it.
00:20:51.600 But it's interesting. So they're the federal, the feds are saying implying very strongly saying so in everything but plain English that Alberta needs to get on board and fully embrace Ottawa's carbon tax, or this might not get approved.
00:21:09.600 That's bunk for a few reasons.
00:21:11.600 First of all, Alberta has a carbon tax.
00:21:13.600 The NDP had a carbon tax and they called it a carbon levy.
00:21:17.600 The Tories canceled what they called the carbon tax and they kept four fifths of that carbon tax and nearly all of the regulations around the energy industry in Alberta.
00:21:29.600 And they just renamed it the tier program, which is an acronym for something technology innovation, something, something program here.
00:21:37.600 They kept almost the entire NDP program in place, except for the consumer carbon tax.
00:21:42.600 They still have to place the industrial carbon tax, which is two thirds of it and most of the regulations.
00:21:47.600 So Ottawa complaining that Alberta is not supporting a carbon tax is pure politics, just as it is on the Alberta government side when they say they don't have a carbon tax because they very much do.
00:21:57.600 At the same time, why should Ottawa have anything to do with this whatsoever?
00:22:03.600 This is inside of Alberta's borders.
00:22:05.600 This does not affect the rest of the country.
00:22:07.600 This doesn't affect the rest of the world unless you're one of the apocalypse apocalyptics.
00:22:12.600 This should be purely Alberta's business.
00:22:15.600 We shouldn't.
00:22:16.600 I don't think Alberta should be even engaging the federal government on this.
00:22:19.600 We should tell them to butt out for the simple reason that can we imagine for a second the federal government even having a question mark over if Quebec was allowed to engage in a major infrastructure project.
00:22:31.600 So when Quebec builds hydro dams, those are extremely disruptive to the environment.
00:22:37.600 They're often a good idea, but they are extremely disruptive, much more destructive than most oil sands mines.
00:22:42.600 And can anyone on the show, any one of our listeners, recall a single time that Ottawa threatened Quebec to fall in line with some of its policies in order to have permission to go forward with an energy product?
00:22:57.600 No, because Quebec would split overnight if they were ever condescended to that way.
00:23:02.600 So I think it's wild what Ottawa is doing, but I think Alberta's government is being very weak in just fighting for the project.
00:23:11.600 It should be telling Ottawa it has no business in this whatsoever.
00:23:14.600 And if they if they insist on inserting themselves into it, they should be prepared to go it alone with the many reasons Albertans and Westerners more broadly already have to seek independence.
00:23:27.600 All right. Well, on one final note, a public service announcement.
00:23:33.600 If you are a consumer of Corona beer, don't worry, you're not going to get the Corona virus from your beer.
00:23:44.600 Well, I don't want to say that with 100 percent certainty, but it's let's just say it's probably not going to happen that way unless you share your beer with somebody who has the Corona virus, in which case that's problematic.
00:23:56.600 But a funny article posted today from Vice of all sources and yes, I read right, left and otherwise.
00:24:05.600 And it was all about how the number of searches for the Corona beer virus has gone up dramatically on Google.
00:24:15.600 People clearly not connecting the Corona virus with Corona meaning crown and this virus coming out of China, not the beer making regions of Mexico.
00:24:28.600 So very clearly the human race is beyond redemption and perhaps we do need to be wiped out to start over.
00:24:35.600 I did. This gives me that article gave me gives me such little faith for the future of the human race.
00:24:42.600 So perhaps it is time we hit the reset button.
00:24:44.600 Well, and we predicted it actually in this show last week that the Corona virus would wipe out all of humanity in the last seven or eight seconds.
00:24:54.600 You have to go back and watch last week's episodes where yours truly made the formal prediction that that was going to happen.
00:25:02.600 I thought it would happen by now, but you know, we've got a couple more weeks, so we'll see.
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00:25:34.600 Thanks Paul. I'm off to have a Corona now.