Western Standard - June 05, 2025


Hamas has become a North American problem


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Length

46 minutes

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177.89053

Word Count

8,239

Sentence Count

400

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

34


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Pro-Hamas supporters in Canada hide behind masks and fake identities, but are really hiding behind a facade of being anti-Israel and anti-colonialism? Why do they do it? And why do they support Hamas?

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00:00:00.000 Good day.
00:00:29.460 welcome to the cory morgan show getting into summer now man it's nice out there and it's about
00:00:35.140 time i make no secret of my hatred of winter and i hate it more with every year so i'll savor this
00:00:40.260 weather while we've got it they give me something to brighten me up so counterbalance is my sour
00:00:46.180 commentary and uh reporting on all those negative stories either i got lost to comment on today
00:00:51.300 and lots to cover a little while i'm gonna have david clement come on he's from the consumer
00:00:54.900 choice center and he's written uh he's done a whole study on cartel activity in canada yeah
00:00:59.640 it's really happening here i mean we're busy chasing down people for mischief uh meanwhile
00:01:04.140 mexican cartels are operating within our country we really have our priorities on straight uh be 1.00
00:01:12.700 sure to use that comment uh scroll guys you know send questions my way chat with each other utilize
00:01:18.480 that i appreciate it lets me know somebody's out there just keep things civil and uh we can all get
00:01:24.040 along and cover some good things here. So let's get on to what has got me worked up. I mean, yeah,
00:01:29.320 after seeing Molotov cocktails thrown at peaceful people sitting around in Colorado, I just had to
00:01:37.300 get this off my chest. I mean, Gazans, and I'm tired of people making excuses for them. They've
00:01:42.340 chosen to continue to support Hamas and refuse to release their remaining hostages. Well, Israel's 0.96
00:01:48.720 reducing their city to rubble. Israel's not going to stop until every one of its citizens have been 0.99
00:01:52.780 accounted for, and it shouldn't. The fanatics of Gaza have refused all efforts to resolve the 0.83
00:01:56.820 conflict created by the Hamas attack on families and a music festival, the attendees, on October
00:02:01.860 7th, 2023. And those Gazans cheered as the bodies of victims were dragged through their streets,
00:02:06.960 and they've collectively worked to hide the location of Hamas members, rocket launching
00:02:10.820 sites and hostages among them. Let's not pretend they don't know where it all is. Israel has not 0.68
00:02:15.420 been committing genocide. Gazans have been committing a form of collective suicide. The
00:02:20.200 conflict in Gaza slowly winding to an end as the rats of Hamas are running out of holes to hide 0.99
00:02:24.760 in. The resolution is coming, even though it's going to leave Gaza as a pile of dust. The problem 0.89
00:02:30.260 the world must face now, though, are the cult-like Hamas supporters who've sprung up like weeds in 0.93
00:02:34.660 developed nations. As their vile, hate-filled protests have failed to create the world movement
00:02:39.900 to prevent Israel from defending itself and its existence, the people and groups behind this 0.95
00:02:44.700 movement have become increasingly extreme. The facade of being a movement in support of
00:02:49.940 Palestinian independence slipped away long ago. They're driven by an anti-Jewish hatred and
00:02:54.420 they're fueled by Islamist fundamentalists. Cadres of white-bred middle-class idiots in 0.86
00:03:00.040 Western universities cosplay and keffias while marching with groups calling to globalize the
00:03:04.980 infatata and chanting death to Jews. It's astounding this Sikh movement has managed to 1.00
00:03:10.000 gain such a toehold in societies we'd previously thought civilized enough not to tolerate this
00:03:14.620 kind of hate anymore. In BC, protesters and our own reporter Jared caught that on video. They were
00:03:20.780 chanting, we are Hamas, we are Hezbollah, while they're burning Canadian flags and chanting death
00:03:25.020 to Canada. So we can't pretend what these guys are about, guys, but the authorities apparently
00:03:29.220 don't see this as a risk. In Toronto, the ongoing campaign of intimidation has been carried out for
00:03:33.780 18 months as mass losers and thugs target Jewish neighborhoods and businesses. In response, the
00:03:38.960 Toronto police forces have brought the Hamas supporters coffee and donuts. I wish I was 1.00
00:03:43.020 kidding. Shoppers are accosted in malls, encampments were set up in universities, and roads are
00:03:47.840 chronically blocked with hate protests. At least in BC, Ontario, and Quebec they are. Alberta took
00:03:53.200 a different approach to the Hamas supporters than the other provinces. When the encampments were set
00:03:57.300 up in Alberta, universities' police tore them down within days and laid charges. When the protesters
00:04:01.200 tried to block Calgary streets during rush hour, the police swooped in and cleared them out and
00:04:04.500 laid charges. And guess what happened? Disruptive extremist protests in Alberta stopped. There's
00:04:10.460 still some pro-Hamas losers in demonstrations, but they don't dare try to block roads, target
00:04:14.380 neighborhoods, or set up encampments because enforcement works. The Hamas movement is dominated
00:04:19.660 by cowards. Who else would join a movement in support of the orgy of rape and murder Hamas 0.98
00:04:23.880 committed? Hamas supporters in Canada hide behind masks and numbers. The moment it appears they may
00:04:29.020 face charges, though, they suddenly fall into line. They don't really want to sacrifice their
00:04:32.980 own personal well-being for their supposed distant friends in Gaza. They get a sense of
00:04:37.200 personal accomplishment in somehow threatening a local minority, but they won't put their own 0.99
00:04:41.060 comfort at risk. You certainly don't see the queers for Palestine actually flying to the 1.00
00:04:45.160 Middle East in person, do you? The permissive attitudes of the West have fostered a movement
00:04:49.260 that glorifies murder and hate. Now there's lunatics being spawned by the Hamas movement, 0.91
00:04:54.520 and they're murderous. The young Jewish couple has been gunned down in Washington, and yeah,
00:04:59.200 Molotov cocktail was tossed into a peaceful group of Jews in Colorado, and local politicians like 0.99
00:05:04.320 a Green Party candidate celebrated that crap. If left unchecked, the North American Hamas movement 0.92
00:05:09.820 is going to lead to more deaths. Some voices said, we mustn't take sides in this conflict
00:05:14.400 as theirs, but we must. One side's clearly evil. Only one side's been blocking streets in their
00:05:19.480 prayers, shooting at Jewish schools, lighting smoke bombs, targeting Jewish businesses, and 0.93
00:05:23.380 burning flags. Only one side is chanting death to Canada, and only one side insists on wearing masks
00:05:29.000 and attacking property. There's only one side doing that, guys. That side's the Hamas side, 0.99
00:05:33.640 and it's got to be stamped out of Canada as mercilessly and as effectively as it has been in 0.51
00:05:37.940 Gaza. Participants celebrating Hamas are supporting a terrorist group. The second they cross any legal
00:05:43.960 line, they should be arrested. If they're citizens, they should be charged, and if they aren't citizens,
00:05:47.800 they've got to be sent the hell back to wherever they came from without hesitation. This isn't
00:05:51.440 complicated or nuanced. It's a festering movement of dangerous hate building in Canada, and it's
00:05:56.200 only getting worse as we refuse to crack down upon it. We can't pretend it isn't our problem
00:06:00.420 anymore guys it is it's on our streets it's time that it stopped no i'm not gonna say that all
00:06:06.840 right and here's a moron to show an example mama may says zionism is using jews as a human shield 0.57
00:06:15.000 yeah right okay you're blocked and banned so my show i choose who gets to speak and you anti-jew 0.54
00:06:22.940 screwballs can piss off dave what's new in the world today besides that well said cork couldn't
00:06:29.540 said it by myself but you did some great stuff to yourself your story just came out yeah and i
00:06:34.580 just published a story a great timing we didn't even talk no talk about this believe it or not
00:06:38.900 but uh yeah i published a story and i think it's entitled seven hours of hell we went to uh kibbutz
00:06:45.140 in southern israel called uh near oz and it's the closest to gaza it's only 1.8 kilometers away
00:06:52.740 and it was the first one hit at 6 29 a.m on uh october 13th and we talked to one of the village
00:07:01.780 elders who was there when he tried to when he set up the hamas or the kibbutz in 1957 and he told us
00:07:09.060 the horror story of that day uh their plan had been the practice had always been they have a
00:07:16.740 local security force of seven seven men and those seven men were supposed to hold off any attack
00:07:22.740 for 15 minutes until the Israeli Defense Forces arrived.
00:07:26.960 And that didn't happen that day.
00:07:28.780 The Israeli Defense Forces didn't arrive for seven hours,
00:07:32.820 and that security response team was all killed.
00:07:36.820 So the terrorists had free range to do whatever they wanted
00:07:40.520 in this little village of 400 peaceful souls.
00:07:44.140 And by the time they were done, 121 of them were dead or kidnapped or raped.
00:07:52.740 60 percent of the houses were burned. Just an orgy of violence that is
00:07:59.140 uncomprehendable to me, Corey. They were all hepped up on a drug type of amphetamines.
00:08:09.140 I don't understand the bloodthirsty mentality, how you can do that.
00:08:14.020 We're lucky to live in a civilized society where this isn't happening. Well, that's what I mean,
00:08:19.460 though we're seeing people celebrating it here and that's what just brought it to a head for me i
00:08:24.420 mean we're mortified we don't understand it but there's actually seeds of it here yeah this was
00:08:29.300 the kibbutz where the the bilbas family was kidnapped from you'll remember them uh they 0.98
00:08:33.940 became sort of a a spotlight on the on the crisis in gaza family of four kidnapped to uh uh to gaza
00:08:42.580 uh they eventually released the father and then they they had claimed that the two young children
00:08:49.140 both under four, had been killed in Israeli air attacks. And then they made a deal, and they
00:08:55.380 sent back the bodies of mom and her two kids. And it turns out they sent a body of a Palestinian 0.92
00:09:02.820 woman, not the mom. They did send the kids, and forensic testing showed that they had been
00:09:08.660 murdered by bare hands, and then the bodies mutilated. So it really is just an upsetting
00:09:16.500 It's an upsetting story to read, but it needs to be told.
00:09:20.440 It does.
00:09:21.720 Well, I appreciate you telling it.
00:09:23.140 Yeah.
00:09:24.800 In other news, we've got a report out today by the province of Alberta on oil sands emissions.
00:09:30.700 They're down 26% since 2012.
00:09:34.620 So Mark Carney can put that in his pipe and smoke it.
00:09:39.080 Speaking of Carney, he said in the House yesterday there's no need to spend money to get the economy rolling again.
00:09:46.500 And then they introduced a $500 billion spending bill.
00:09:50.940 Yeah.
00:09:51.680 And speaks out two sides of his mouth.
00:09:54.220 And the Online Harms Act is back for Act 3.
00:10:00.820 They're going to try and push it through for a third time and regulate you and me on the Internet and what we can and cannot say.
00:10:08.320 Yeah, they are bound and determined to control speech. 0.64
00:10:11.760 And that's it.
00:10:12.180 People should be concerned.
00:10:13.200 Oh, extremely concerned.
00:10:14.600 So we can only hope it fails.
00:10:16.100 three strikes and hopefully it's out it should i guess get your vpns ready uh yep and bypass it
00:10:22.420 but still we shouldn't have to no no no all right and you had an exciting day yesterday yesterday
00:10:29.620 the day before in regina regina yes i went out to uh uh independence town hall in regina yeah
00:10:35.540 they packed them in like five six hundred people there yeah so when you speak do you imagine like
00:10:42.100 everybody naked is that what they tell people to do could you imagine if i got an erection up there
00:10:46.820 it's those clear podiums oh yeah that would be terrible but i am terrified while i speak so i
00:10:51.380 use other methods to keep myself going but not that one no that would be uh it would make news
00:10:56.340 yeah well keep doing it practice makes perfect all right well and i guess you know next week
00:11:02.260 we're set up at the global petroleum show are we going to leave you in a nice quiet office
00:11:06.420 while we're yes i'm going to be here by myself i think the entire staff down there i couldn't
00:11:10.340 be looking forward to it more uh but happy to check in remotely for the news update good i will
00:11:16.340 probably take you up on that see you then all right thanks steve go panthers go that's right
00:11:24.340 yeah speaking of divisive issues uh yeah i was trying to stay somewhat impartial on that but
00:11:30.020 that is our news editor dave naylor lots on the go as you see yes he's been flying around the world
00:11:34.340 and writing an excellent series of stories on what he saw over there in in israel i mean it's just
00:11:39.620 terrible uh but plus he's also managing our stories our news copy and all of that in that
00:11:44.580 busy newsroom with our reporters across the country and the reason we're doing it the reason
00:11:47.860 we can the reason we can afford it is because of you this one i gotta nag you but this is how we 0.92
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00:12:18.700 you. So if you've subscribed again, thank you. And if you haven't, come on, get on it. Yeah,
00:12:23.600 I got to go on another quick rant before I get on to more serious things and so on. This is
00:12:29.120 serious too. I was walking here today. I walk quite a ways because I'm cheap. I don't like
00:12:33.240 paying to park all the way downtown where our offices are. So I park quite a ways away and
00:12:36.660 use the steps anyways. But I saw these things. This is the first time I saw them. They are in
00:12:41.940 Calgary now building these parking spaces on the roads for scooters. They're taking up more parking
00:12:47.460 spaces. They're sticking them right in the intersections of corners so the cars can't get
00:12:51.320 next to each other to turn the corner. It's already causing a headache. What a symbol of
00:12:56.980 the idiocy of Calgary City Hall and their ideological anti-automobile stance because
00:13:04.620 that's what this is about. We don't see backups of scooters with nowhere to park. There's not a
00:13:09.420 demand for this. There's not a need for this. The only intention of this is to screw with drivers.
00:13:15.840 This has been Calgary's ongoing campaign for quite some time. They want to push people out
00:13:21.900 of their vehicles because they feel everybody else will start walking to work riding bicycles
00:13:25.240 or riding the bus once they buy their stab-proof vests and don't mind wearing rubber boots so they
00:13:30.380 don't step on the feces at the LRT stations. Rather than making it more desirable to use
00:13:35.900 alternative forms of traffic, they're trying to make it undesirable to use the preferred form of
00:13:40.560 traffic. Look at that stupid box. You notice the thing with it? And I walked by a few of them on
00:13:44.460 the way here. They're putting them all over the place. I didn't see a single scooter in one because
00:13:48.800 nobody needs them. It's ridiculous. You can't ride a scooter on the streets, though people do,
00:13:54.380 but legally you shouldn't but apparently you should park them on the streets this is where
00:14:00.480 Calgary's tax dollars are going and I know it's not uh unique to Calgary it's the same rationale
00:14:05.620 and logic of a lot of the bike lanes and bike tracks you know you know what you never see on
00:14:10.800 them cyclists you see shopping carts dogs uh people parking illegally on them perhaps some
00:14:17.720 of them are fairly well utilized on a nice day but for the most part people ride bike paths
00:14:21.500 but again the city knows that the goal is to screw with cars so it just it's just absurd and
00:14:29.940 this is an election year in calgary so guys this and in edmonton so you know if you want to stop
00:14:34.840 this crap this is the year to do it all right let's get on to my guest dave clement and uh he's
00:14:40.540 with the the consumer choice center and similar to kind of what i was talking about when i guess
00:14:45.920 you could say distant problems are actually impacting us here even if we don't want to deal
00:14:49.280 with it. We've got cartel activity happening in Canada. And he did quite, quite a report on it
00:14:55.300 on his site there at the Consumer Choice Center. And I really want to talk about it. And actually
00:14:58.240 a story came out about that today. So thanks for joining us today, David. Thank you very much for
00:15:02.840 having me. So, I mean, I'll just, you know, kind of let you lay that out. What on earth is going on?
00:15:09.000 How are we becoming a place for cartels to operate? Yeah, well, how I got to this was,
00:15:15.540 I mean, the Trump administration has said some pretty outlandish things.
00:15:20.240 Peter Navarro, who's the senior advisor for Trump, had said that cartels have overtaken Canada.
00:15:27.400 He wasn't talking about the dairy cartel, because that, of course, would be true.
00:15:32.000 And so that kind of prompted me to be like, OK, well, what is actually real here?
00:15:38.000 And the purpose of the report was to actually evaluate how expansive are cartel operations in Canada.
00:15:49.540 And so by going through various drug busts, RCMP data, some forecasting and estimates, it is not true that cartels have overtaken Canada, but their presence in Canada is significant.
00:16:05.460 it is growing, and it is increasingly moving online, which I think is the real interesting
00:16:13.660 fact here is that we're seeing a shift. When people think of the things that cartels deal
00:16:21.360 with or deal, the products that they deal, they usually think cocaine. There's been some extra
00:16:27.740 attention to fentanyl. What I found is it's predominantly fentanyl, cocaine, methamphetamine,
00:16:34.240 and illegal tobacco and rather than your traditional kind of street dealer right someone
00:16:40.080 selling something on the street or out of the out of the trunk of a car a lot of these sales
00:16:46.240 are actually happening online they're being the payments are being processed by either credit
00:16:52.740 card companies or interact via e-transfer and shipped to people's doors via canada post and
00:17:00.440 And the reason why that matters and the shift in cartel activity is that my estimate, which is a pretty conservative estimate, the total value of the black market for those four illegal products is over $2.6 billion.
00:17:18.000 So it's a substantial black market that the cartels have expanded their operations in.
00:17:24.520 And it's really important for the Kearney government to get a handle on this, one, for public safety.
00:17:32.880 When the cartels arrive, everyone knows the violence that ensues.
00:17:37.060 And two, for our relationship with the United States, because that has been a priority for them.
00:17:44.560 And so the goal of my report was to highlight some very key, very easy areas where government could take action
00:17:53.260 and start to chip away at where the cartels are making millions and millions and millions of
00:17:59.060 dollars operating in Canada. Yeah, so I had a commenter, Andrea T, saying, you know, and it's
00:18:03.900 a good point, cartels and triads, exactly, you know, they've been here for a long time. Organized
00:18:08.220 crime is nothing new, often with ethnic basis uniting them. What's different this time,
00:18:14.380 or is it becoming more, you know, entrenched? Is it becoming a larger problem than it used to be?
00:18:19.340 It's a much larger problem. I would say what's different is cartel activity, if we rewound, let's say, 15 years, was predominantly sending illegal drugs into Canada, and then those would be sold through criminal networks, biker gangs, you name it.
00:18:37.700 kind of what you would see in a tv show that kind of stereotype what we see now is significant
00:18:46.340 operations within canada that are run by the mexican cartels and so they're not just sending
00:18:54.660 cocaine let's say north of the border for it to be sold by others with the case of fentanyl i mean
00:19:02.340 the super lab in bc tied to mexican cartels we're talking about a serious capacity production 0.91
00:19:11.140 facility that's producing fentanyl on a massive scale that is different that is very different
00:19:18.820 than just sending drugs north of the border and having other people do the legwork that is
00:19:24.420 producing it domestically and that's just for fentanyl the different drugs and and illegal
00:19:30.260 tobacco that are also included in the report have different mechanisms but generally speaking across
00:19:36.180 the board it's expanding it's becoming more problematic and becoming more sophisticated
00:19:41.620 yeah well it's interesting you mentioned online sales and i mean a whole new area you know if
00:19:46.900 anybody learns how to take advantage of new technology it always seems to be the criminal
00:19:50.820 element uh sam cooper exposed a lot with the cartel activity and overseas with money laundering
00:19:56.740 I mean, Canada has always been kind of a soft touch for that through our casinos and things like that.
00:20:01.620 But if they start working into a digital world, then the cash laundering doesn't even become such a priority for them, does it?
00:20:07.180 I mean, they can do it without laundering now.
00:20:09.800 Well, that is possible.
00:20:11.660 That is possible.
00:20:12.540 It depends on how much money and how long these sites can stay operational.
00:20:18.160 I'll give you an example of what was particularly shocking for me with these websites.
00:20:22.680 So completely public facing.
00:20:26.740 have a user experience that's similar to Amazon. You can buy ketamine, cocaine,
00:20:33.960 100 cartons of illegal cigarettes, you name it. Paid for via Interact, so via e-transfer.
00:20:41.760 They give you all the instructions, including the email that you pay to. And you can ship it
00:20:48.880 Express Post via Canada Post, and even in some instances have it insured if the dollar value
00:20:55.880 is higher than a certain threshold. And so it was just an incredibly brazen scale of operations
00:21:04.360 that are out there in the public, where it would appear that Canada Post either doesn't know or
00:21:13.300 doesn't care it would appear that some of the financial institutions either don't know
00:21:18.660 or don't care and that's a problem because i mean i'm not a compliance officer at a major bank but
00:21:26.660 with public facing emails for where the e-transfer goes all a major financial institution would have
00:21:33.620 to do would be to search if that account or if that email is linked to a deposit account
00:21:39.380 that is in their system well they had no problems tracking people who donated to the truckers convoy
00:21:45.960 somehow you would think they'd be able to use that sort of investigative technique for
00:21:49.900 for drug cartels and people purchasing from them at least canada post has found one growth area
00:21:54.840 they're not doing well anywhere else but i i imagine we still would want to uh stomp that out
00:22:00.320 another wrinkle that's come though and i i suspect that's part of what leads to a bit of the reticence
00:22:04.580 on the authorities to dealing with this is there's been some cooperation with cartels operating on
00:22:09.240 First Nations reserves, which leaves, I think, police forces and others a bit more, as they
00:22:15.820 said, reticent to kind of want to step in there because that brings along the whole new associated
00:22:19.580 problem. Yeah. And this is the thing is, I don't think that there's anything wrong with
00:22:26.580 indigenous companies exercising their protected rights to manufacture cigarettes. But you can't 1.00
00:22:35.140 be collaborating with a designated terrorist entity.
00:22:39.500 I think that that is where, let's say, one right and one crime collide head on.
00:22:47.200 And that is where something has to be done.
00:22:50.040 You mentioned Sam Cooper.
00:22:52.460 He had a great piece out yesterday on exactly that.
00:22:56.620 And it isn't even necessarily, and I wouldn't want it to be perceived, as me accusing individuals
00:23:05.120 indigenous people or these indigenous companies, per se, as being criminal enterprises.
00:23:11.440 But they create a very lucrative product that the cartel can capitalize on.
00:23:15.880 And the last thing an indigenous community needs in this country is for cartel members 1.00
00:23:23.000 or cartel activity to infiltrate their way into the reserves.
00:23:27.880 Because that is how you get all of the ugly and nasty things that we see in Mexico, where 1.00
00:23:34.320 they take over entire towns and people disappear these are not people you want to do business with
00:23:40.300 and by no means should any legal enterprise be collaborating with these entities who are now
00:23:49.220 designated as terror groups yeah i mean canadian indigenous people are already suffering from
00:23:54.580 enough socio-economic challenges and then having setups i mean fentanyl's devastating them
00:23:59.160 they they certainly don't need to be the hub of where it's being produced or distributed
00:24:03.080 uh as you put out with that lab though that the one that got busted the one i mean we got to
00:24:08.620 presume there's others uh it was described as a super lab so i mean export has to be part of the
00:24:14.540 concern there's only so much canadian demand for these trump is bombastic he makes a lot of things
00:24:19.960 up he's exaggerated the amount of risk perhaps that comes from canada we can't pretend there's
00:24:24.960 no drugs coming from up here and ending up south of the border can we or ending up in other markets
00:24:30.920 like japan or australia or asia or europe and i mean it was often said right the rebuttal from
00:24:38.520 ottawa was well we only found a relatively small amount of fentanyl leaving the country
00:24:47.160 there are two problems with that analysis so one we do a very particularly poor job of scanning
00:24:54.200 at our ports i think the figure is less than five percent of everything coming in or going out of
00:24:59.320 the port of vancouver um two if we find a super lab that's that can operate on an industrial scale
00:25:06.520 to produce enough doses to kill everybody in canada it's certainly not for the domestic market
00:25:13.480 right it has to be going somewhere else and that is for me is so blatantly obvious that
00:25:20.920 if there is so much production uh capacity in canada then we have to be sending it somewhere
00:25:27.960 because it isn't just sitting around and as terrible as the fentanyl crisis is
00:25:34.840 that fentanyl is not being consumed by canadians because we would have swaths and swaths of dead
00:25:41.320 bodies all across the country all the time and so it has to be going somewhere it's obviously
00:25:47.000 leaving the country whether it's going to the united states or other countries
00:25:51.720 i think is part of why it's important we actually investigate this and not dismiss it
00:25:56.600 because two things can be true at the same time and this is part of the problem with the political
00:26:02.080 discussion is as you mentioned Trump can be an exaggerator he can manufacture things and make
00:26:08.600 things up however a broken clock is right twice a day and even if there's a sliver or a grain of
00:26:17.440 truth we do have a duty to sort this out for our own good right to for our own good to to prevent
00:26:25.300 the expansion of cartel activity in this country. Yeah, well, and you mentioned, I mean, 5%,
00:26:33.520 I've heard as low as 1% even when it comes to our port, that's been a weak spot. And I hadn't
00:26:37.780 even really thought of the fact that we might be exporting to other nations. But if we have such
00:26:42.140 weak border security at the ports, it only makes sense. Of course, you know, you can get things on
00:26:47.100 ships and you can hit darn near any country with this. But it's tough. Interdiction of drug exports,
00:26:54.160 imports. I mean, developed countries have been trying to deal with this for decades. The wave 0.99
00:26:58.880 of cocaine in the 80s from Colombia and through Mexico into the United States. I mean, what they
00:27:04.160 spent trying to stem that flow, and they never really were all that terribly successful with it.
00:27:09.520 What do you think Canada can and should do then to try and deal with this?
00:27:13.760 Well, I think the easiest step right now, and this is part of what I implied in the report,
00:27:22.720 is we've created this terror designation for cartels and the penalties that come with
00:27:30.060 associating with a terrorist organization. So when I say terrorist organization,
00:27:36.080 these are the same penalties we would apply to an organization or an individual who was caught
00:27:43.560 collaborating with Al-Qaeda or Hamas or Hezbollah or you name it, the worst in the world. And so
00:27:50.880 the implications here, based on what we've just set the table for judicially, is that the
00:27:58.120 institutions could be incredibly and financially implicated in any of these penalties that could
00:28:06.780 come about. An example would be TD Bank in the U.S. just settled prior to the designation
00:28:12.260 for north of a billion dollars because it was found that there was cartel activity that they
00:28:19.340 knew about and they didn't do anything about and so now that we have this terror designation
00:28:24.440 this the the stakes are much higher and the stakes are also much higher because
00:28:30.180 this is an ongoing problem if you look at fentanyl how many people has that killed
00:28:34.680 it it's a it's a it's a shame and a disaster but it's also a problem for how we navigate our way
00:28:43.620 hopefully out of a trade war with the united states yeah i mean it's as you think with the
00:28:50.420 dairy cartel though it's not as serious a problem as as the the other cartels they both are sticking
00:28:56.340 points i mean if you if you don't like trump if you don't like the trade war well we've got to
00:29:00.500 stop giving him ammunition in the spots where he is correct and uh you know take those bullets out
00:29:05.700 of his gun in this trade war then and and this would be one of them i mean it's it's a game of
00:29:09.380 whack-a-mole to try and keep it down we'll never eliminate it but we've got to show that we're
00:29:13.780 being genuine in trying to deal with this and at least make it as difficult as possible for them
00:29:18.980 to operate well and just imagine um if we if i put my political strategist hat on for a second
00:29:26.820 just imagine a press conference where the minister of justice comes out and says all right guys
00:29:32.340 here's the progress we've made we've identified a hundred websites that are dealing in dealing
00:29:39.940 products that are linked to mexican cartels and we've shut them down and we've frozen the bank
00:29:45.700 accounts of those who are of the uh the bank accounts of the websites and those who are
00:29:50.820 associated because we mean business that would be a very big very splashy very effective way
00:29:57.940 to show the trump administration and show donald trump that we mean business while also cutting off
00:30:05.860 this brazing brazenly illegal means um for for these terrorist organizations and criminal
00:30:14.500 networks to make money well yeah when they're setting up websites and operating as you said
00:30:19.060 that brazenly i mean we've got stuff we can take care of and we bloody well should i mean it's just
00:30:23.860 kind of embarrassing that it's gotten that far uh so before i let you go you know where can people
00:30:29.700 find uh your work uh with the consumer choice center and and what you're up to i know you
00:30:33.140 cover a heck of a lot more than just this but it was a very interesting outlying kind of subject
00:30:37.380 to bring up yeah consumer choice center.org in the research tab there you'll find that the full
00:30:43.140 6 000 word uh report which goes into all of the nitty-gritty the history of cartel activity
00:30:49.060 um the kind of market forecast for the black markets and some of the examples of just how
00:30:54.540 brazen uh these websites are in terms of how they operate so yeah consumer choice center.org
00:31:00.420 or at clement liberty on twitter or x yes yeah it's hard to keep up excellent well well thanks
00:31:09.800 for your work on that report and your work in general and for coming on today david uh i look
00:31:14.240 forward to talking again soon maybe on we'll get on to supply management again or something a little
00:31:18.040 more domestic. But for now, I appreciate the cartel work. Looking forward to it. Thank you.
00:31:22.540 Great. Thank you. So yeah, guys, look them up. David Clement, the Consumer Choice Center,
00:31:27.080 they cover a lot of things and the report was really good. These are issues we've got to cover
00:31:31.120 everything, right? And they're all issues that impact trade, impact our economy and impact our
00:31:36.000 safety. I mean, cartels, they're scary folks. As you said, look at the stuff they do in Mexico.
00:31:41.360 There's some valid points. So I see a commenter, Ian Leslie, saying, why hasn't the US border
00:31:45.160 security been finding this crossing the American border, they control their border. And that's one
00:31:50.400 of the things that kind of Trump turned on its head. It's very valid. I mean, realistically,
00:31:54.100 your responsibility of keeping things out of your country is yours. If things are coming in,
00:31:59.120 it should be up to you. I mean, Trump will say anything and everything. We know that. He also
00:32:05.480 likes talking about saying we got to, you know, that he's subsidizing Canada because there's a
00:32:10.000 $200 billion trade deficit, which is absolutely, I mean, the deficit's true. The subsidy aspect is
00:32:15.020 completely untrue. But the reality is that Trump has a hammer that he can swing to really mess with
00:32:20.580 our economy and push us around. So it doesn't matter what his premise is, we have to deal with
00:32:24.280 it when he puts it out there. I think when it comes to the border security in Canada,
00:32:28.480 we should be both sides dealing with it if it's going to be effective. I mean, if it's the United
00:32:33.920 States' responsibility to keep everything from coming in, and we just say that's the case of it,
00:32:38.680 well, let's say you end up with a wall getting built on the Canadian border, or much more stringent
00:32:42.380 crossing requirements for us when we go down. I go down with the fifth wheel every winter.
00:32:48.340 I don't want to have to go through an end-to-end search on my fifth wheel every year because
00:32:52.100 the Americans don't feel confident that we're keeping the stem of things from going down. I
00:32:55.920 think it takes both sides. The Canadian-American border, if you've ever been down to it in the
00:32:59.680 prairies, I surveyed down there. It's literally, you're on the bald butt prairies. It's a broken
00:33:04.700 down barbed wire fence in spots with nothing around for a long ways in either direction.
00:33:09.420 it's very easy to cross that without being noticed. And we can't pretend things haven't
00:33:13.400 been crossing without notice. So with a little more supervision, a little more security down there
00:33:22.000 on both sides, hopefully we can get some degree of that under control anyways. You'll never stop
00:33:28.100 it as I was saying with David, but we don't have to make it easy. And I think that's part of why,
00:33:34.640 I mean, down in Mexico, the Americans, they've got a real huge problem with migrants coming
00:33:38.540 across that border and they've built a wall and they got loads of patrols and they're constantly
00:33:42.480 on that. They've got their blimps up there taking pictures. It's a very busy problematic border. We
00:33:48.760 don't want ours to turn that way. And that's part of why the Mexican cartels that we're looking at
00:33:53.200 Canada saying, well, we can produce product up there and still get it to that giant consumer
00:33:57.460 market in the States. It would just come down across the Canadian border because they don't
00:34:01.320 watch that nearly as closely as the Mexican border. So I think both sides are kind of going
00:34:06.660 work on this. And it's hard to work both sides when you're dealing with somebody, again, as
00:34:09.720 unpredictable as President Trump on things. But, you know, he takes something that is a real issue
00:34:15.640 and maybe exaggerates it, but it still remains a real issue. As was pointed out, if these guys
00:34:20.960 are partnering and setting up on First Nations reserves, the reserves are just getting decimated
00:34:25.940 with addiction and drugs, and they don't need the supply be coming right into their own backyard.
00:34:32.740 You know that's only going to make it worse.
00:34:34.940 As David pointed out, too, these cartels, they operate rough.
00:34:37.600 They take over towns.
00:34:39.280 They murder their opponents.
00:34:41.460 They're awful.
00:34:42.700 So it's something that's got to be taken seriously.
00:34:44.420 As another commenter said, we've always got them, but if they're getting even more entrenched, then we better pay attention.
00:34:49.260 We do not need that here.
00:34:51.020 We've got enough problems already going on.
00:34:54.660 Speaking of which, I mean, I'll get to that.
00:34:56.500 That's news that's hit the last couple of days, right?
00:34:58.480 And Trump is doubling down on the tariffs again.
00:35:01.120 Here we go. He's doubled the steel and aluminum tariffs. Oh, man. And Doug Ford was up. We're
00:35:09.180 going to talk a bit about that in the pipeline if you're watching that tonight. So Doug Ford's
00:35:12.640 up there saying, we've got to put back the retaliatory tariffs. Oh, you moron. You know,
00:35:19.460 doubling down on dumb just doubles the dumb. It doesn't make things any better. Two wrongs don't
00:35:24.820 make a right. One of the few things that Carney did correctly was pull off the counter tariffs.
00:35:31.120 and he did it secretly and he did it in a self-serving way.
00:35:36.440 But it was also because they're bad economics.
00:35:39.360 It only hurts your own consumers.
00:35:42.860 And Trump, he's just determined to hurt his own consumers
00:35:45.680 and we just got to keep letting them do it.
00:35:47.520 It will hurt Canadian producers
00:35:48.820 because as the price of your products going down there goes up,
00:35:51.820 people tend to buy less of it and it hurts you up here.
00:35:55.220 But I mean, as some of the estimates they're talking,
00:35:57.120 it's going to add thousands of dollars
00:35:59.200 to the prices of vehicles in the United States
00:36:01.560 by adding these tariffs to steel and aluminum down there.
00:36:04.580 It's going to add to the price of beer cans for the Americans.
00:36:07.900 And the tariffs against China,
00:36:09.860 you know how quickly Trump started talking
00:36:11.660 and reducing things and backing off with China?
00:36:14.140 Because his base are the pajama pants
00:36:16.420 wearing people who go to Walmart and dollar stores
00:36:18.800 and they get upset when they can't get
00:36:20.880 their dirt cheap Chinese products.
00:36:23.020 How do you think they're that cheap?
00:36:24.240 They don't make them in the United States.
00:36:26.400 They're not going to make troll doll keychains
00:36:28.700 for 50 cents each anywhere in the United States. They got to get those products from somewhere else.
00:36:37.020 Unfortunately, Trump has hung up on tariffs. It's interesting that Elon Musk, now that they have
00:36:44.100 parted ways, you know, he was there to be temporary for the doge thing, and he's done his time, and
00:36:49.060 now he's moving on. And he was scathing of the Republican Party now overspending, putting out
00:36:55.540 a massive bill. I mean, what's the point of cutting government when the government's still
00:36:57.940 going to keep trying to spend itself rich. So he's been vocal on that. Whatever you might think
00:37:04.360 of Trump. I know some people on here like him. I'm just sick to death of them already. I wanted
00:37:08.900 to see the establishment shaken up. I know that the Democrats are worse in many, many ways. But
00:37:14.620 boy, his economic policy stinks. It's terrible. It's fanatical. It's pushing. And it's not working
00:37:20.180 except to put everybody into a bad position. And I don't know what's going to stop it.
00:37:26.460 The G7 summit's coming up next week in Canada.
00:37:29.920 Trump's going to be here along, you know, with a number of the world leaders right here in Alberta.
00:37:34.260 And I don't know, hopefully some sense comes out of that.
00:37:37.480 It's hard to see or expect sense to come out of many things.
00:37:42.040 As Dave mentioned, I was in Regina the day before yesterday.
00:37:45.740 I was speaking to a crowd there.
00:37:47.320 That was a rebel media event.
00:37:49.340 You know, we're friendly competitors.
00:37:51.260 And I was a guest speaker at it.
00:37:52.600 Yeah, 500, 600 people there.
00:37:54.140 It was a great, packed, busy house. And just north of us at the same time in Saskatoon, the first minister's meeting was happening and nine out of 10 premiers were there and Prime Minister Carney was there. And they all came out all smiling. They always do after these. The one premier who wasn't there, though, was from BC and that's David Eby. And Eby has come out because they're saying, oh, we're going to work on the corridors and getting things across the country.
00:38:19.980 now the interesting things I mean it's not so much as what's said but what's not said
00:38:24.360 Carney won't say the word pipeline if his life depends on it he's put out word salad he's talked
00:38:30.060 about everything since then but he still won't say pipeline chicken and EB has come out and said
00:38:36.400 pipeline because he says it's not going to come through BC so you know what the whole point of
00:38:40.360 the first minister's summit was a waste of time if one premier can stop that it's a waste of time
00:38:47.420 I understand the prime minister wanting to work with the provinces.
00:38:50.260 You see, we've got to talk about what the point of a federation is.
00:38:52.740 What's the point of all these provinces being stuffed in under one umbrella
00:38:55.960 unless there's going to be some common guidance that makes sure everybody prospers?
00:39:00.800 But when you've got a cowardly, centralized government and prime minister in front of it
00:39:05.140 who won't use the constitutional authority he does have,
00:39:08.280 they'll step on provincial rights all over the place except where they're supposed to.
00:39:12.660 no premier should have the right to stop an interprovincial infrastructure project the
00:39:19.360 constitutional says they don't have that right it's the point of the federation that we can trade
00:39:24.800 our products and goods and services across this country from end to end without hindrance from
00:39:31.460 the provinces and the federal government's too weak to enforce that thus quebec can stop alberta
00:39:38.940 from getting its product to east coast bc can stop alberta from getting its product to the west coast
00:39:43.660 that's why i say it's time to rip this thing down to the core and rebuild it because it's garbage
00:39:47.500 it's a federation that doesn't actually work a good question from uh cindy there saying how do 0.99
00:39:52.940 you decarbonize oil yeah because that was one of the things he did mention you know oil products
00:39:56.620 but we'll sell clean decarbonized oil what the hell are you talking about you fruit loop
00:40:02.300 it is carbon product it's a carbon-based product it's just weasel words more garbage out of them
00:40:08.380 He's a fanatic. He doesn't, he's got no intention of getting pipelines from coast to coast either.
00:40:14.000 Uh, you know, commercialization. I mean, we've got good local products being done.
00:40:18.060 I, for example, produce fantastic honey, beeswax, local goods. There's even secondary clowns like
00:40:25.660 this Freedom Honey guy who makes kind of some moderately decent honey out there in, uh,
00:40:31.160 North Central Alberta. And as you can see, he's spamming my comment section there.
00:40:38.380 But yeah, we've got a lot of industries out here.
00:40:41.520 We've got diverse ones.
00:40:43.640 But we can't reach our full potential
00:40:45.620 if we've got a centralized government
00:40:47.160 that's over-regulating everything,
00:40:48.920 that's stopping us,
00:40:49.720 that's based on ideology rather than reality.
00:40:52.840 So this battle is going to keep continuing.
00:40:55.240 These guys can go to their little summits
00:40:57.500 and they can hold hands and come out smiling,
00:40:59.260 but we need something concrete.
00:41:01.380 I'm just saying we're going to bring in the regulations down
00:41:03.060 so it only takes two years now to approve or not approve.
00:41:06.020 let's not forget if they change the process they can still say no we're asking companies to invest
00:41:11.720 millions and billions of dollars on studies applications licenses all that garbage kissing
00:41:18.360 the ass as a bureaucrat to try and get a job done and they can say no at any time they're not going 0.99
00:41:24.140 to come in and spend the dollars I'm getting worried about some of the talk too but the
00:41:27.400 government should take it on and build the pipes like they did with Trans Mountain look what
00:41:30.260 happened with Trans Mountain we had a private interest willing to build it build it not a
00:41:35.260 single dime of taxpayers' money needed to go into it. But Trudeau ragged the puck and screwed with
00:41:41.040 them and kicked them around so much. They finally, Kinder Morgan said, we're out, we're done. We've
00:41:44.320 had it. They were willing to lose the millions and millions that already sunk into this. Just
00:41:48.640 like TransCanada Energy, same thing. When they went to Energy East, Trudeau regulated it out
00:41:53.700 of existence and they just gave up. They lost a billion on that and more. They got to get real.
00:41:59.600 Two years, piss on that. We should be moving dirt within a few months. Look, it's been studied
00:42:04.360 and studied and studied and studied. We know what pipelines are. We know what the impact of them is.
00:42:11.040 We know how to mitigate it. We already have the regulations to make sure they're built effectively
00:42:15.940 and safely. We don't need two years of nasal, naval gazing and meetings and bribery and
00:42:21.340 consultation and all that crap to get one done. We just need to say it's time. We're going to put
00:42:26.380 it in the ground. We will guarantee that you are allowed to get your project finished and profitable
00:42:34.220 Now that's up to the company.
00:42:35.660 But get it finished.
00:42:36.980 The government has to guarantee it
00:42:38.720 because no private company is going to go in on a maybe any longer.
00:42:42.340 Lucy has held the ball
00:42:44.020 and Charlie Brown has fallen on his back too many times now.
00:42:48.940 CB fixes all, says Pierre said six months to approve projects.
00:42:52.020 Yeah, and that's, it should be even less than that.
00:42:54.440 In my view, we should do it in a couple months.
00:42:55.860 Paperwork, we got enough bureaucratic buttholes out there
00:42:58.240 to be able to figure that out.
00:42:59.440 But Pierre didn't win.
00:43:03.260 Central Canada gave Kearney the reins. So we're just not going to see it. They're just talking.
00:43:12.120 Fashion saying with carbon capture and storage modular nuclear, ambient capture, we can get to
00:43:17.140 a decarbonized economy using oil and gas. Okay. There's ways we can talk around it. I know what
00:43:22.060 you're kind of saying, but the cost is just catastrophic for some of those things. I mean,
00:43:26.320 we want to examine different types of energy sources. The reality is the world desperately
00:43:33.060 wants our products. They do. Asian markets want it. European markets want it. We just got to get
00:43:37.840 it there. That means we got to get it past the nutcases in central Canada. And here's one.
00:43:46.320 It's interesting. A commenter saying, you can't step over consultation laws because you are
00:43:51.340 whining. And why do all the pipelines have to go through reserves in traditional territories?
00:43:54.260 Okay. They don't go through the reserves. Look at the map, clown.
00:43:58.640 Well, you see, we start going through that fake veto power that indigenous people supposedly have. 1.00
00:44:04.060 And then you mentioned traditional territories. Everything's traditional territories.
00:44:07.600 And there were Neanderthals prior to them. We don't have to consult them, and I don't care. 0.99
00:44:11.240 We've consulted them to death. We pay them lots already.
00:44:17.720 And consultation doesn't mean consent. We don't need it. Get over it. It's enough.
00:44:22.140 we don't need consent. We will consult. We'll do it in good faith, but we don't have to get
00:44:27.160 permission or we will never get it done. But that's the goal of some people. They don't want
00:44:31.400 it to get done. So an independent West will get it done. Cause you know what? When we cut off
00:44:37.180 access across this middle chunk, they'll suddenly learn what economic grief is and they'll suddenly
00:44:42.320 learn common sense. All right. Either way, something else going on. We got the global
00:44:47.260 energy show. I'm going to be broadcasting live from the floor of that next week. That'll be fun.
00:44:51.740 And that's where the energy superpowers and people are going to be gathering in Calgary as they do every year.
00:44:57.720 It's huge.
00:44:58.480 Check it out down there, guys.
00:45:01.300 Another big meeting in Red Deer.
00:45:02.880 If you're looking for it, if you're looking for independence things, there's a big all-day thing on June 14th.
00:45:08.300 I'll be speaking at that and set up as well, I think, at their trade show.
00:45:13.840 And lots on the go.
00:45:15.260 The pipeline is going to be on this evening, guys.
00:45:17.300 Be sure to tune in for that.
00:45:18.920 Nigel, Derek, and I are going to break down a few more of the issues and the other stuff. So
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