Western Standard - HANNAFORD： How China will Cubanize Canada's roads

00:00:00.000 Good evening, Western Standard viewers, and welcome to Hannaford, the Western Standard's

00:00:20.880 weekly politics show. It is Thursday, September the 11th. The Federal Liberals have a dream that

00:00:26.720 Canada will one day run on electricity, not fossil fuels, and they have bent their whole approach to

00:00:33.520 government in that direction, first under Justin Trudeau, and now under his former mentor,

00:00:40.160 the present Prime Minister, Mark Carney. They want net zero carbon emissions by 2035,

00:00:48.480 which is highly unlikely, and in particular it is demanding that only electric cars be sold

00:00:56.400 after 2035. But what a lot of people don't realize is that they're phasing this in early. Until Mr.

00:01:05.200 Carney announced a 12-month delay last week, auto dealers were expecting to be required by law

00:01:12.640 in less than four months to make one-fifth of all passenger car sales electric. The ratio was to grow

00:01:20.480 to 60% in 2030. As a result of the Prime Minister's delay, the program now launches January 1st,

00:01:29.600 2027. But this all seems like craziness. What is the poor old dealer to do if nobody wants an electric

00:01:37.760 vehicle? With me today to talk about is Dan McTeague, no stranger to the Western Standard.

00:01:43.520 Mr. McTeague is President of Canadians for Affordable Energy. He used to be a liberal. I saw it on his

00:01:52.480 Facebook page once. I don't know whether that's still there, Dan, but welcome back to the show.

00:01:57.760 Good to be here, Mr. Hannaford. Nigel, it's great to have a chance to once again visit and speak and

00:02:03.280 discuss the matters of great importance for all of us here at the Western Standard.

00:02:07.760 So Dan, what are the dealers supposed to do if they're selling cars and nobody wants to buy them?

00:02:15.360 Well, I've spoken to many. In fact, I guess I was one of those many Canadians who went out and

00:02:19.360 purchased a vehicle back about a month ago. So the second quarter of 2025 was very strong for internal

00:02:25.440 combustion engines, ICE vehicles, sales versus the electric vehicle purchases, which dropped 40 full

00:02:34.080 percent, uh, comparing to last year's second quarter. So what dealers are supposed to do is

00:02:39.680 what May had expressed to me is that they're, uh, they're faced with, uh, an absolute certainty of

00:02:45.440 bankruptcy, uh, or at least laying off, uh, or funding themselves out of work, uh, should it come to that.

00:02:51.920 And of course, uh, we hear from, uh, the Mark Carney government, they are going to pause this.

00:02:55.920 I don't think there's any sense in pausing it. They should have scrapped it and made a decision to get

00:02:59.600 rid of it once and for all, but such as the affinity, uh, the tenacity of the, uh, climate cult liberals

00:03:07.280 who, uh, hold fast to the idea that, uh, you know, uh, an inert, um, product and inert gas like CO2,

00:03:16.000 one of the three elements necessary for survival of life on this planet, water and oxygen being the other,

00:03:22.400 holding fast the idea that we should demonize one is, uh, well worth putting, uh, economic, uh,

00:03:27.760 distortions in place that would create not only car dealers going out of business and no one wanted

00:03:32.080 to buy these things, but no market for it in the United States. Now that the Trump administration,

00:03:36.640 first act of its government, uh, rightly got rid of the, uh, uh, the, um, uh, the inflation

00:03:43.520 reduction act, the so-called IRA. I don't know why they call it that. Nevertheless, uh, it's kind of

00:03:48.160 strange that, uh, no one picked up on that back in November. And now here we are today, uh, dealing with

00:03:54.240 a full broad spectrum of dealers going out of business and auto manufacturers, especially

00:03:59.200 here in Ontario, which I worked for one, um, possibly leaving the country or shutting down

00:04:04.560 as well, because there's no way imposed mandates like this, uh, can be, uh, can be realistically made

00:04:09.760 in an environment where no one wants these things. Well, okay. So I thought that the Canadian auto

00:04:16.800 industry was always based on exporting to the United States. And, uh, if now that they want to

00:04:25.600 make electric cars, there's no way that the Canadian market would ever be able to sustain, uh, demand for

00:04:32.080 that many vehicles that would make manufacturing them economic. So are you saying that the auto industry

00:04:40.720 is, uh, sunset industry in Ontario? It is as long as pursued this, uh, reckless and, uh,

00:04:48.080 not well thought of short-sighted policy. Now, Nigel, I am not, uh, uh, on, uh, you know,

00:04:54.320 unversed in this industry. Prior to being elected in 1993, I served as media relations officer for

00:05:00.240 a little tiny company that happens to be today's number one manufacturer in the world and number one

00:05:05.360 in Canada, Toyota Canada. And, uh, with two or three manufacturers here in Ontario, many of them

00:05:10.400 built since the late 1980s, uh, at risk and at play are those kinds of plants that, uh, are going

00:05:16.720 to be forced to say, Hey, follow the mandate. You have to sell only, uh, electric vehicles. You can

00:05:21.520 only, uh, offer electric vehicles. They're not going that route. That's a company that basically

00:05:26.240 put a line in the sand some time ago and said, yeah, we'll take the government grift. In other words,

00:05:30.240 we'll take the mooch. We'll take the money. We'll take the public's money, much of it borrowed, 1.00

00:05:35.040 uh, in, in terms of debt, but we're not going down that road. The rest of the world is not,

00:05:39.200 therefore we're not. Practically speaking, you shouldn't either. There's other technologies

00:05:43.040 out there that are just as good, uh, you know, maybe solid state batteries. If we're going to

00:05:46.480 go that route or more efficiency out of internal combustion engines, melding that with the hybrids.

00:05:52.880 The last cut line I did when I worked at Toyota was for a little vehicle called, um, the tsunami.

00:05:58.880 It later was, it was a high, it was a, uh, a two door, uh, prototype, which is really the basis for

00:06:04.160 something called the Prius. And it's that model, the idea of hybrids with the engines that is now

00:06:09.040 going to be the mainstay for that company, at least for the next 20 to 30 years.

00:06:12.320 Now we can continue to roll against the current and deny reality, but, uh, for our friends in

00:06:17.280 Ottawa who've never worked in Ottawa sector, never worked in the energy sector, obviously have never

00:06:20.960 worked in the private sector, save and accept those who can walk around saying, well, I work for,

00:06:25.840 uh, you know, a certain funds company as the prime minister does. Reality is biting the federal

00:06:31.120 liberals and their friends in the block and the NDP really hard. No one wants these things.

00:06:34.960 They're too expensive. They're impractical. And we don't have the money to build the infrastructure.

00:06:39.840 Now, I think a lot of us have responded to this whole news, either by thinking it won't happen

00:06:48.320 in the end. And certainly the fact that it's been pushed back a year sort of plays into that

00:06:55.120 comfortable narrative. And the other is, well, you won't be able to buy a new gas vehicle, but you'll

00:07:00.640 still be able to, you know, uh, in 20, in the last month of 2035, when I'm still able to buy or the 2034,

00:07:07.920 when I'm still able to buy a gas powered car, that's when I'm going to get my dream car.

00:07:13.840 Uh, I'm sort of whatever age I am now, and I'm going to make it last for 25 years.

00:07:19.120 Now, a lot could change in government policy. And in fact, governments themselves could change

00:07:24.960 between now and 2035. But on the basis of what you know now, is that realistic thinking?

00:07:34.000 Are you going to still be able to run your gas job in 2035? Are they going to take all the gas

00:07:40.560 pumps away? Well, it seems that's what they want to do. Uh, one of the things with the second carbon

00:07:45.760 tax, which was never eliminated, called the second carbon tax back in 2019, 2020, it was proposed.

00:07:51.040 Government tried to suggest that it was good. There's a benefit, a cost benefit analysis.

00:07:55.120 Our good friend, economist, uh, well-noted economist, Ross McKittrick did a study for

00:07:59.120 Canadians for affordable energy, in which he pointed out that for every dollar

00:08:02.400 of benefit, there was $6 in cost, including a 1% drop in GDP and average costs are hit about

00:08:07.680 12 to $1,300. And that's tax that refiners have to pay. In other words, they have to go to the carbon

00:08:12.400 credit market in order to, uh, offset, uh, the, uh, the, the requirement that they drop emissions by 30%.

00:08:19.360 Why? Well, because the technology doesn't exist for that, nor does, nor does it exist anywhere else

00:08:24.160 in the world. So we're superimposing on Canada, not only that, which is unreal, but we're actually

00:08:29.280 violating the law of thermodynamics. We're violating, uh, any principles of science, let

00:08:34.240 alone any breakthroughs in technology. So, you know, I've said this before, and I've told to many

00:08:38.400 people, it's cool to be trendy, but when it comes to the cost, the cost of the Canadian economy, our,

00:08:44.400 our prosperity, our future, our industry, our manufacturing sector, our resource sector,

00:08:49.840 if you want to throw those all out and cast them to the wind, that's fine. But how are you going to

00:08:54.560 make the payments at the end of the week? How are you going to pay not only the massive debt the

00:08:58.800 country has incurred, how are people going to have jobs when they've got nothing to offer? The rest of

00:09:03.120 the world is not invested in the rest of Canada. Don't take my word for it. It takes 139 pennies to buy

00:09:08.240 a US dollar. Do you realize that costs you and I 24, 25 cents a litre for gasoline? Our lack of

00:09:13.520 purchase power because of these bad policies is having a cataclysmic effect. It's cascading into

00:09:18.880 other areas of the economy, including high food prices, high energy prices, and really lower,

00:09:23.680 uh, lower paychecks for most Canadians. So Dan, last week you placed an article in the

00:09:29.440 Western Standard. You said this, our country is lacking the charging infrastructure to support an

00:09:36.080 entirely electric fleet of vehicles. And we aren't building chargers anywhere near fast enough to

00:09:43.760 close that gap. We're also in a period of serious electric grid insecurity. Even if you have the

00:09:50.400 generators, you can't get, you can't move the power. So, and this insecurity is largely the result of the

00:09:57.040 net zero nuttiness and anti-oil and gas policies enacted by our ruling class over the past decade or more.

00:10:06.720 That's what you said. Where exactly do they think they're going to get the electricity

00:10:14.240 to power the millions of battery-powered cars that they admit would still be out there and

00:10:20.720 could be plugged in every night? Well, it's magical thinking. Yeah, magical thinking, I suspect, or maybe

00:10:26.720 creative financing, which I think we're going to find a lot more about when Mark Carney tries to split the

00:10:31.120 budget into two forms of deficit, a capital and an operational. Either way, we're in a massive debt

00:10:38.560 and deficit situation. But, you know, I go back to some of my early works. I worked for a little,

00:10:43.840 you know, writing called Pickering in Scarborough East. Here's a little symbol of that nuclear 0.67

00:10:49.360 reactor that was built in 1965. How do you have the money to build reactors, much less the

00:10:55.360 infrastructure to get energy from those reactors to the point, those terminals, where people need

00:10:59.920 them, and then set up those terminals so people can plug them in? The demand would be three times

00:11:04.320 what we have now. The Royal Bank of Canada in 2023 put out a report in terms of electrification of

00:11:08.800 the country. A little bit of an issue connected to this. You got two and a half trillion bucks? I don't

00:11:13.440 know if it does. That's more than 100% of the GDP of our entire Canadian economy. So again, people

00:11:19.200 bandy these things out as if, you know, because it's a great idea, we can do it. But, you know,

00:11:23.440 I'd like to have a million bucks in my bank account. I can't just magically go wave a magic wand and say,

00:11:27.920 yeah, I got a million bucks, although the federal government believes it does, because that's the

00:11:30.480 way it's spending money it doesn't have. The reality, I think, for many of us is that the infrastructure

00:11:35.920 is one question that cannot be resolved. We just don't have the equipment, the financing,

00:11:42.080 nor do we have the wherewithal. We don't have enough electricians. We don't have enough

00:11:47.120 minerals to be able to mine and to bring out the copper and to provide all of what's required

00:11:53.280 to make sure that there's 100% servicing of a 100% vehicle fleet in this country.

00:11:58.480 It is delusional beyond any discussion for anybody to believe that in nine short years you can have

00:12:05.200 this done. No other country would be that insane. Even Norway knows they can't do it because at night

00:12:09.760 they tell people to stop, don't plug in your vehicles, especially during the winter.

00:12:13.040 No, I think we need a bit of a dose of reality. Unfortunately, the only way that's going to

00:12:16.880 come about is for those pink slips to be hit. A lot more Canadians because of the bad policies

00:12:21.520 of government, not because of orange-haired men, bad south of the border, but because of our own 0.60

00:12:26.640 narrow-sidedness and our short-sidedness in terms of these policies, which have no basis in fact,

00:12:32.800 nor do they have any impact in terms of reducing so-called emissions.

00:12:38.000 Now, it is always difficult to get inside the head of somebody else. And Mr. Carney is the person

00:12:45.200 I'm thinking of here. He obviously cannot be unaware of anything that you have just said. He knows

00:12:53.200 he knows better than any of us, I guess, how little money there is and how much debt there is.

00:13:00.080 And that's probably why there's no liberty-ship crash-building program for generation and 0.90

00:13:06.160 distribution. But I am suspicious that he may be okay with that. And I'm going to ask you whether,

00:13:15.120 you know, you have the same job getting inside his head as I do, but I am suspicious that his green 1.00

00:13:22.320 anti-carbon sentiments might be quite comfortable with an outcome where a lot less Canadians are a lot

00:13:28.880 less mobile. Am I starting to lose my grip on reality here, going over the nut edge?

00:13:36.160 Well, I can tell you what will change Mr. Carney very quickly is that the moment the country can no

00:13:40.160 longer supply and afford and maintain a decent level of living for most Canadians and starts to

00:13:46.560 whittle down prosperity and our credit gets downgraded. And yes, provinces like Quebec and Ontario,

00:13:52.080 Manitoba and the eastern provinces like in Atlantic Canada wind up seeing their equalization

00:13:58.160 payments cut back. I think that's going to be a very hard reality for many of these regions and

00:14:03.280 many of these posers who for the past 10 years have offered us, you know, what amounts to shenanigan

00:14:10.080 type politics that have no basis in economic reality or financial reality. Look, Mr. Carney's company said it all

00:14:17.040 for me. Before he became prime minister, it moved to the United States. It bought the largest pipeline

00:14:22.080 in the United States in the world, the colonial pipeline. It bought into future nuclear with 0.64

00:14:28.640 respects to Brookfield's purchases of the once viable Westinghouse to get its nuclear division.

00:14:37.600 It's purchased very heavily into heat pumps. There's no doubt in my mind that many of these people may

00:14:44.000 believe very much in the fairytale nonsense that we're killing ourselves with CO2. But for people

00:14:49.840 like Mark Carney, it's one step above that. It's how much money they can make out of it. So creating a

00:14:53.520 carbon credit market unregulated based on nothing, based on absolute thin air, if we can even call it

00:14:59.360 that, in which they're able to make riches, enormous riches, by penalizing those who don't conform

00:15:05.520 with their idea that you have to cut back CO2. Look, I don't want to be pedantical. I certainly don't

00:15:10.640 want to be rude about this, but people that are concerned about CO2 that damn well stop exhaling.

00:15:14.000 And I've said this many times. If you think it's that problem, that much of a problem,

00:15:17.840 and you're part of that problem, maybe it's time that you stop exhaling that we can make the point

00:15:22.560 really salient that all of the policies Mr. Carney is advocating that he's written about in this book

00:15:27.200 of values, which he seems not to be adhering to these days, sooner or later, the real Mark Carney

00:15:31.440 is going to have to show up. And we have the two faces of Janus with Mr. Carney, like it or not,

00:15:35.760 I think Canadians are going to start to see the real Mr. Carney very, very shortly, because Pierre

00:15:40.320 Paulieff, thankfully, he's back in the House of Commons, he's going to hold his feet in the

00:15:44.160 cabinet, the fire.

00:15:45.600 All right, Dan, you're starting to make me doubt the good faith of the Prime Minister.

00:15:51.280 You know, it seems that the goal was always to have cars, electric cars manufactured in

00:15:58.720 Canada, and we mentioned this before, that the American market for them will have dried up.

00:16:03.840 So I'm wondering whether that is ever going to happen. So, Mr. Carney has strong ties,

00:16:09.920 business ties with China, and we've also got a 100% tariff on Chinese electric vehicles,

00:16:19.040 and an inconvenient retaliatory tariff on Canadian canola exports to China.

00:16:26.880 Do you see a sort of a quid pro quo coming around here, where we end up with a market

00:16:34.480 flooded by Chinese electric vehicles?

00:16:37.440 Yes, I do. I think that's the only option he has, because the Chinese know how to play the game as 1.00

00:16:44.400 well. And their hit to the Canadian economy is significant and far more damaging than what the

00:16:50.720 Americans are doing with their terrorists. I mean, at the end of the day, we're still dealing 95% of our 0.99

00:16:54.640 goods with the United States, not just the automotive. But if we think we can create a

00:16:58.880 brand new industry, a battery industry, we need 15 years to catch up. China did this 15 years ago,

00:17:04.320 in the late 2005, 2008 period.

00:17:07.200 They decided they couldn't beat the West, including Canada, the United States and Europe, when it came 0.58

00:17:12.720 to internal combustion engines and the ever-improving technology that brought emissions down, that brought

00:17:18.720 pollution down, that brought fuel efficiency to levels that we had never seen. So the Chinese 1.00

00:17:25.920 basically gave up on it, said, we can't replicate what they're doing. So we'll build electric vehicles.

00:17:30.720 That's great. They have their place, Nigel. Golf carts would be a great point where I would say,

00:17:36.640 hey, they do great on a golf course. They do great in downtown cities, perhaps, when you have to go from

00:17:41.920 point A to point B, although you could use public transit. We spend billions of dollars on that every

00:17:46.720 year. But they sure as heck cannot replace the efficiency, the reliability, the durability, and the

00:17:53.920 economics of the internal combustion engine. Like it or not, some people just think it's an old-fashioned

00:17:58.720 idea. I heard Flavio Volpe's father I knew quite well, sat with him in the House of Commons on my

00:18:03.760 side many years. Auto parts guy came in, he would only say the CBC, the only people who want to not

00:18:09.520 have EVs are people, I think he referred to them as, you know, people who want to have pickup trucks

00:18:14.320 and dinosaurs. If that's the kind of mentality that still pervades the automotive sector and the power

00:18:21.200 levers and institutions that make decisions in this country, then I think we are definitely going to

00:18:25.840 see an auto sector doomed to its own failure. While companies like Toyota and Stellantis and Ford

00:18:32.720 and Volkswagen and others are simply going to pack up and go south of the border. And Canadians,

00:18:37.280 they'll have a choice. Yeah, they'll have their internal combustion engines, but there won't be one,

00:18:41.520 you know, one scintilla of Canadian content, any of that stuff. That's because we backed the wrong

00:18:46.640 horse and we continue to still back that wrong horse. And by a delay, we continue to say,

00:18:51.520 maybe there's a hope. There's no hope. This thing is gone. It's done. It's history. It's toast.

00:18:56.960 People need to really wake up and smell the coffee and maybe get their elbows down and start thinking

00:19:01.760 for once. Well, so, so a lot of us are thinking about what is the last gasoline powered car that

00:19:08.320 we're going to buy. I mean, if you like your gas car, then that is certainly something that you're

00:19:17.200 thinking about. Oh, the Cuban station of Canada. Wonderful. No, I think it's going to be rough for

00:19:21.520 a long time. People buy them from elsewhere, even their friends in Quebec. They're not stupid. The

00:19:25.520 number one per capita purchasers of pickup trucks is in Alberta and Saskatchewan. It's Quebec. And so,

00:19:32.160 you know, these guys can continue to be trendy and cool and row against the current, pretend they have

00:19:38.240 support for these things. The public really knows where to go on this and they've made it very,

00:19:42.240 very clear they did. So this, just the report this week alone, Nigel said everything. Internal combustion

00:19:47.760 engine vehicle sales up 18% compared to the second quarter last year. EVs down 40%. And the only reason

00:19:55.440 they're kept up is that because they're asking people who can't afford, who have to pay their taxes

00:20:00.880 so these people can have a subsidy. If you have to subsidize the building of these things,

00:20:05.360 you have to subsidize the infrastructure of these things, and you have to subsidize the purchase,

00:20:09.040 this makes no economic sense. It sure as heck doesn't make any fiscal sense. So at the end of

00:20:13.520 the day, I'm saying this whole vehicle EV mandate fantasy, a branch and extension of net zero,

00:20:21.520 needs to be lined up on the 30 yard line and punted right through the end zone. The sooner, the better.

00:20:26.640 So, Dan, so far we've only talked about electric vehicles, but obviously our whole way of life

00:20:32.400 is based on secure electricity supplies. What else might Canadians expect that hasn't been much

00:20:38.640 talked about so far as Mr. Carney tries to take the carbon out of us?

00:20:44.960 Well, I think Mr. Carney is going to have to have a real sit down with people who know better,

00:20:49.760 and that carbon or at least human emissions of carbon are not the dreadful emergency catastrophic

00:20:57.440 thing that it appears to be. The United States administration has just included several

00:21:04.160 top scientists and economists who've said this fear mongering that has been the basis by which we

00:21:09.360 have spent trillions of dollars trying to introduce renewables to make our energy availability vulnerable

00:21:16.000 and unaffordable is not working. It's not working in Europe. It's certainly not going to be tried in

00:21:20.640 China, and it's not going to be worked out in the United States. So there can be a little mix of that,

00:21:25.760 but not the tens of trillions of dollars that have had to be committed that some are pretending we can

00:21:30.400 commit to. In the next few weeks, Nigel, here in Canada, then that the argument is going to be

00:21:36.640 he has to present a budget, and that's over $100 billion in deficit added to the $1.4 trillion

00:21:42.880 already. That's only federal. Remember, the provinces are almost $2 trillion in debt collectively

00:21:47.920 at a sub-sovereign level. I think the gig will be up. The bond rating agencies are going to look at

00:21:52.640 that and say credit downgrade. And by the way, that means higher interest rates. That means less

00:21:56.720 investment in the country. That means we're back to where we were in 1981 or worse speculation.

00:22:01.680 Dear God. People ask me if this is part of a grander plan conceived at a higher level of

00:22:08.240 international intrigue. This is the last question. I don't know what to tell them, but I do see the

00:22:13.280 same kind of pressures to go electric in Europe and, of course, before President Trump in the United

00:22:19.360 States. Is there a grander plan that we are aware of here in Canada?

00:22:26.080 Oh, there has to be. But Canada is susceptible to it because it's basically had a leadership

00:22:30.880 that said basically anything that goes, whether it be Davos or whether that be the United Nations,

00:22:38.000 we're going to sign up to something that is scientifically and intellectually questionable

00:22:43.120 at best. I say to people, you know, they say, well, you're not a climate scientist. Well,

00:22:48.240 neither are they. But we have a lot of political scientists that think they are. And that's the

00:22:51.680 problem is that we have a policy that's made and derived in another part of the world that's

00:22:56.400 hurting another part of the world. Europe is on its knees. Europe doesn't have natural gas.

00:23:00.080 It's got tons on its ground. It has to rely on the United States for LNG. Now that you had the

00:23:05.520 blowing up of the Nord Stream pipeline and Russia, of course, invading Ukraine. That aside,

00:23:12.160 in the geopolitical confrontation, you now have a circumstance where Europe is on its knees.

00:23:19.120 Manufacturing is stalling. The quality of life is certainly in decline. People are having trouble.

00:23:26.720 Nigel, you know this perhaps better than I do. Elderly are finding it difficult to stay warm in

00:23:31.280 the middle of winter in the UK. It's not, you know, it's not a matter that gives us any comfort to say,

00:23:39.280 hey, we're in Canada, we have lots of resources. But the fact that we have turned our idea away from

00:23:44.320 being able to sell the world the rest of our great resources, not just talking oil and gas or agriculture

00:23:49.600 or mining, is a real tragedy. And whether that's the World Economic Forum pushing us on this net zero

00:23:57.040 nonsense, which it is and the scam, or whether it is flooding the country with migration and going well

00:24:04.960 beyond even our own advisors in our public service who said this is not the way to go. However we want

00:24:11.440 to conduct it, it certainly isn't something the public wants. Now, the public can be very ignorant in 0.93

00:24:15.440 many of these cases, but the public did not sign up for these programs. And I think we need a clear

00:24:19.680 definition election on net zero, which has led to significant decline in our standard living and an

00:24:25.920 era of unaffordability for just about everything. Don't take my word for it. Talk to anyone shopping

00:24:30.080 at the grocery stores when they're looking and saying, you know, and our good friend,

00:24:33.600 Sylvain Charlevoix professor, the food professor saying, you know, inflation on food continues to rise

00:24:38.400 faster than the United States, faster than most European countries. Can't say I haven't noticed

00:24:43.920 that myself, Dan. Dan McTeague is president of Canadians for Affordable Energy, a frequent guest

00:24:51.360 to this program, and a frequent contributor of his thoughts to the Western Standard. We appreciate

00:24:57.280 your insights, Dan, and thanks for being on the show today. Great to be here. Thanks for having me,

00:25:01.600 Nigel. For the Western Standard, I'm Nigel Hannaford.

Western Standard - September 14, 2025

HANNAFORD： How China will Cubanize Canada's roads

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