Heading into election 2025!
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In this episode of The Cory Morgan Show: The 2nd Take, we discuss the upcoming federal election, the impact of the Bank of Canada's latest stimulus plan, and whether or not there will be an election at all.
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welcome to the cory morgan show second take so it's going to come every friday this is a special
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series there's just so much going on and so much going to be happening and more than likely there's
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going to be an election sometime in the next few months that we're going to come in every friday
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for an hour or two and break down the federal issues the election issues have guests to cover
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these things and then just try to help everybody sort through the crazy mire which is canadian
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American politics of today. So, I mean, again, I just couldn't keep up with my Wednesday show
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every week. There's just not enough time to hit it. So it's so important to get through these
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I'm going to have Jen Hodson and Sean Polzer on. They're two of our main reporters here at The
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standard in the Calgary office. They had quite an experience at the Mark Carney event the other
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night. You know, so it starts to kick things off with this election type thing. So election,
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I'm going to start with that question. When's it going to be held? Well, you know what? We don't
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know. We got all sorts of speculation, but thanks to Canada's weird system under the new, you know,
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the Westminster parliamentary system, especially in a minority government situation, it could happen
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at any time i'll start with the longest possible projection because some people don't quite
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understand that either the the latest the election could possibly happen legally is october of 2026
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so we're talking over a year and a half from now a government can stay in for five years before
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they're constitutionally obliged to hold an election some people they've been saying no no
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the fixed election date is set for October 2025. Yeah, that's legislation. That doesn't mean
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anything. The government can overturn or amend or change that legislation anytime they want.
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They don't have to go on that date that they set, that they put into their legislation. It's just
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an arbitrary thing that they put. It looks nice. Alberta used to have a balanced budget legislation,
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for example. It made it illegal for the provincial government to run a deficit. That was put in back
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by Ralph Klein. And then eventually Ed Stelmack, when he was premier of Alberta, wanted to run a
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deficit. So what did they do? Before the budget came in, they sat down, repealed their own
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legislation, and then just brought in a deficit budget. Well, the same thing could work with a
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federal election. So it doesn't matter what their legislation says, what the date's going to be.
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The only thing that really matters is the Constitution.
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Now, all that said, I think it's very, very unlikely it would drag out that long.
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I mean, the world's so bizarre, I won't rule anything out.
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But for them to manage to cling to power that long, as passive as Canadians are, I just don't see it happening.
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And people are talking about, you know, an emergency being declared, things like that.
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Yeah, but, you know, you just, it's not going to do them any favor.
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and we're in such a strange, strange period right now.
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unfortunately not the factors of the needs of Canadians,
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because that's what, unfortunately, it all comes down to.
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and it forced this rush to, as far as these things go,
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There's no, it's only a matter of how wide the spread is going to be in a few days, not who wins.
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So Mark Carney will win the liberal leadership race.
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Now, there's been some strange doublespeak coming out of Justin Trudeau on that,
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where he didn't say he was going to hand the reins over to Carney right away.
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It's hard to say, but there is nothing legally that would force Trudeau to hand it over to Carney.
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which still would create quite a mess if he didn't.
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Trudeau is quite enjoying the current tariff crisis, in some ways, anyways,
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or at least try to model himself as much as such.
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So let's assume, though, Justin, whether he likes it or not,
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is going to step aside. He's going to hand that to Mark Carney. Mark Carney will then become our
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Prime Minister. Welcome to Canada's system. Our Prime Minister will be a man who nobody in the
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public, aside from some Liberal members, actually got to vote for. He will have the highest position
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in the land without ever having stood, even for a local election, much less in a general election.
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So Justin Trudeau's a lame duck. Carney, as far as I'm concerned, will be an illegitimate duck.
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I mean, it's fair enough you've got to give the man a chance to get in and win the race and settle in, but he should face the electorate as soon as possible.
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But the liberals won't look at it on a point of principle as to whether or not he should face the electorate as soon as possible.
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What they're looking at is when is he most likely to win an election if he faces the public.
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I now that if they conclude if they conclude October that's the next scenario I'm talking
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about though their fixed election date would be the best time to try and win re-election
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and I can see this happening I think it's the second most unlikely the most unlikely is pushing
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it all the way to 2026 as I said the second most unlikely but still possible is getting more likely
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is that Carney and the Liberals decide they want to have him sit
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even as an unelected Prime Minister all the way until October
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and then face the electorate then when their date and their legislation says they will.
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Now to do that, it means that Jagmeet Singh, the leader of the NDP,
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He has to do an about-face because Singh said repeatedly
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that he's going to vote to bring down the government at the first possible chance.
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And that chance will come two weeks after Mark Carney becomes the leader of the Liberals.
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But Jagmeet Singh is the weakest leader in the entire parliament.
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He's constantly flipped and flopped and stepped on his own tongue.
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He will be willing to cut a deal with the Liberals to stretch this out further.
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He'll ask for something, and this is where negotiations start coming along.
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He's already rung out this dental plan and pharma care and other things that he's claiming as NDP victories,
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even though he's got a tiny amount of seats in the House.
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What would he demand to keep Carney in power until October?
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That gets scary, but both of them are desperate.
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He doesn't want to go to an election, even though he's blustered and talked,
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they're in serious, serious trouble. They haven't been raising money. And in the polls,
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they've been dropping into the toilet, mostly because people are saying, well, if Singh is
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just going to constantly march hand in hand with Justin Trudeau and the liberals, I might as well
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vote for the liberals. It's getting more and more difficult to distinguish the difference between
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Singh's NDP and Trudeau's liberals. So people tend to go to the larger party. And now that this
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tariff thing's going on, they're going there even more. I'll talk about polls a little later in more
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detail. So if Singh and Carney cut a deal, and actually, you know, that 2026 scenario is the
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same thing. It would take them doing something like that to pull it through, because it's pretty
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clear the Conservatives are ready to go. They're going to vote non-confident as soon as they can.
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The Bloc Québécois, very likely, and they've said as much as well, they want to go. Elizabeth
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May with her two seats, and she's been talking and blathering, that's been kind of almost funny,
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about negotiating a deal with the Liberals and the NDP, again, sort of to keep the nasty
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Conservatives out of power. In other words, trying to find a way to delay an election,
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because that's the only way to keep them out. By her own words, though, she said the Liberals
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and the NDP haven't been terribly receptive to her overtures so far. I mean, she's largely
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irrelevant, but when we get to the point of how tight elections can be, she does have a couple
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of seats and her party does garner enough support in certain seats to potentially be a spoiler i
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mean she's elizabeth may she's kind of getting lunier as time goes by but she still is a member
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of parliament she still is leading a party with two seats in the house of commons and that's what
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she's talking about so sing may and such cut a deal drag this election all the way out till
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october i guess i'll be doing this show on fridays a lot longer we'll see uh i mean they will use
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the tariff, you know, trade war going on as their justification.
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They'll say it's so, so important that we can't afford to go to an election right now.
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Of course, the liberals went to an election in the middle of COVID,
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So, again, I think it's the more unlikely scenario.
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Even the liberals understand, Carney understands,
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if you're going to be negotiating on something like tariffs, a trade war, talking with President
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Trump, and you haven't even been elected, you're coming from a very, very weak position. You need
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a mandate. You have to have faced the electorate and won your position, even in a minority role.
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And so this government is due. I mean, people saying, well, it should be four years. Well,
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I get looking at our system. We got a minority government, a credit, I guess, due for their
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ability to cling to power. The average minority government in Canada only lasts 18 months.
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So, uh, you know, we're, we're getting up to close to, it's going to be four years this fall.
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Uh, Justin pulled it off. He hung in there well beyond the average for this, but people are ready.
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They're due. That's what got Justin pushed out by his own party last December because they were
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plummeting so low in the polls, Canadians were so sick and tired of Trudeau and the Liberals
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that they said, that's it, get out. Plus, it's the internal pressure. You know, it's not external
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polls that really move politicians as much as when you start getting the internal pressure. Of
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course, Justin's own finance minister, Chrystia Freeland, you know, basically turned on him. But
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you know, there were other members of Parliament because they were all looking at it and saying,
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my lord, I'm going to lose my seat. They're looking out for their own interests, and if
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eventually they realize that it's better to turn on the king than to sink on the ship with them,
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they'll turn on him, and that's what started happening. There was probably a heck of a lot
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of communication to Trudeau that we never heard, never saw, but it was starting to come from within
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the party, which finally pushed him into his little tearful resignation, though it's been
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such a long, agonizing goodbye. Ah, that's what led to it. Now, yeah, Freeland, another interesting
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case. You look at some of these liberals too, Anita Anand, you know, that one is quite funny.
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She, a while back, said, I've decided, you know, the usual stock line from a politician,
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I'm going to step out of politics to spend more time with my family.
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Can you guys not come up with something more original?
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But the funny thing is, the liberals, and again, as I said, I'll go into the polls a little more later.
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When the liberals started surging in the polls, suddenly Anita and Ann came up and said,
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It shows just how crass and fickle and self-serving these liberal politicians are.
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if if the liberals continue to sink in the polls don't worry she will bail out again
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she doesn't care about canada she cares about herself and hey and that's not unique to just
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liberal politicians we've got to be fair there there's many many self-serving politicians that's
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hardly a new phenomena in the world now is it but we'll see so now the most likely scenario what i
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think is going to happen i guess if i think it doesn't necessarily mean it's the most likely but
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I suspect most people expect this is going to be the deal. Carney is going to have his coronation
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on Sunday, March 9th. That'll give him 15 days before parliament sits again. And it was prorogued.
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And people have got to understand that, you know, prorogation. So Trudeau shut down parliament so
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the liberals can get their own crap in order. Again, getting back to being self-serving, right?
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They want to do an avoidant election, so they shut down the business of everything so that they could select their new leader.
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Canadians are left in the middle of a tariff crisis without a functioning parliament.
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The parliament has to sit at that point, unless somehow they could convince the governor general to extend it.
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I won't say anything's impossible anymore. Very unlikely. So Carney's looking at 15 days. The
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first thing that happens after a prorogation seat, that ends everything in Parliament. Every bill that
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was on, it died on the order paper. It's not going to go through. It's not going to be passed. It has
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to be started all over again. First reading, second reading, it doesn't matter. If it didn't make it
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the royal assent, it's done. So it's got to go back in again. So the first thing that happens
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with a new parliament is you need a speech from the throne. Just giving kind of a backgrounder
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on our parliamentary system, I guess. The speech from the throne is written by the prime minister's
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office and given to the governor general to read. It's not a speech from the throne. It's a speech
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written by a theoretical representative or read by a theoretical representative of the throne. But
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they don't write it themselves. They're just a mouthpiece. Might as well get AI to read it,
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to be honest, but whatever. I'm not big on the figurehead of governor generals. I think it's a
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big, colossal waste of money and a slap in the face of democracy. But that's the way our system
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goes. She is technically actually our head of state. And, you know, King Charles is her boss.
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We are a constitutional monarchy. But that speech will be read. And it provides, and a lot of
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elections have happened this way, that speech often is a kickoff for an election. They can
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use that speech rather than actually opening parliament for a session to start having debate
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and presenting bills and doing the business of government. They'll actually use it as a campaign
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kickoff. So they'll talk about all the wonderful things in the speech from the throne that they're
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going to do if given the mandate from Canadians. I mean, they won't say it that way in the speech,
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but they'll put out all their campaign promises
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the Parliament so we can go to a general election
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thing that'll happen, that way they can kind of do it
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you know, on their turf. They can set the stage. They won't have to face the humiliation of having
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lost a confidence vote. So they weren't forced into an election. And of course, they'll frame
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it, you know, as every political communicator will, as it's just so important for Canadians
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that we must go to an election now, right? So it's critical. We're doing it for you.
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That's what's going to happen. The timeline will go out and sometime in early May or so,
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will go to the polls, will actually vote. That's what I'll see happening. Now, if the other possible
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scenario will happen, as the speech from the throne is followed by an automatic confidence vote. That
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means the House will vote on whether or not they have confidence in the House. If they lose that
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vote, an election is triggered immediately. So, again, if there's been no deal cut with Singh
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to stretch out that confidence vote, because that's the only way they'll pass it,
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then that's what's going to do it. And that would be more humiliating to the liberals, right? Then
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you've been kicked out and forced into an election rather than having chosen the election yourself.
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So there's what I think is going to happen. And we're going to go to an election
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at that point and see what happens. We're certainly due for one. And it's going to be
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hard to pay attention to. So let's look at where we are sitting today in Canada with the seats.
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That's where we left off at the end of the last election anyways. And that's, you know,
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from back in 2019. It's been that long, I believe. No, 2021. I've got the wrong one up.
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Okay, well, that's fine. That's 2019. I got to get a more up-to-date map for myself because,
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yeah, it was a minority in a short term, but the bottom line is map does show the colors of how
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Canada's laid out because it didn't change much between 2019, 2021. We're looking at that trend
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of red in the East, dark blue in the middle, and kind of a mix on the West coast. And, uh,
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it's a minority government that has been hanging in there and, uh, basically rejected by the West.
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so the numbers from the last election i've got those you know the look at these things i mean
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the conservatives uh came in i'm looking at with 34 percent of the vote 5.7 million votes
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but they still came in behind the liberals when it came to seats with 5.6 million votes you get
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less seats but the than the liberals but they got more votes you see that's canada's system again
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it's about where your votes are concentrated, which is what's important. And the Liberals have
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a more efficient vote going on. So the Conservatives, yeah, sure, they got some higher numbers, but
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that's because those blue provinces you could see, Alberta and BC, are so solidly conservative,
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it brings it up higher than it would be with the amount of seats it would get. So despite that,
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they're going to do really well in Ontario and Quebec, as they always do. And the election's
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there. We've got the Maritimes. Again, solidly, solidly. Liberal, typically. You know, PEI,
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Newfoundland, the rest, they are dominated by liberal seats. A couple of specklings of
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conservatives in there. Quebec is an interesting province. How you get the Blockebec law. I mean,
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they only get 8% or so nationally in support, kind of, but they garner the most of the seats
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in Quebec because they're concentrated there. So it's not really an accurate measure to say
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how they're doing across the country, but they really do impact the politics and everything,
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don't they? Speaking of a party that punches above its weight. And then way down at the bottom,
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we've got Bloc Quebecois. You know, we've got them, we've got the Green Party, of course,
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Elizabeth May. We're getting down to 3% support levels, but again, concentrate in a couple of
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areas. You know, Elizabeth May with her seat in Salt Spring Island. There's a couple of Ontario
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ridings that are closed. Mostly it's a BC thing. And then you've got the People's Party. You've got
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So they're sitting at the bottom, not even close to contention for a seat anywhere.
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At best, again, they could be a spoiler in a few spots.
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I'll break down the leaders and the challenges, what they've got going on.
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He's going to be the presumptive prime minister going into this.
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and mark carney isn't really that known a quantity in canada to political weenies like me
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and the rest of you out there i'm sure and the rest he's uh familiar to us he's been the governor
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of the bank of canada he was the governor of the bank of england but uh most people in general
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they've seen his name in the news a couple of times never never really paid much attention to
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that guy but he's been well immersed politically just not in the electoral realm i mean he was
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the head of the Bank of Canada under Stephen Harper. He's not always just liberal, but he's
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definitely been very closely tied to the Trudeau government. He's been a consultant for Justin
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Trudeau for quite some time. They've been tied at the hip. It was no shock that this was handed
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off, basically, to him. I just think that Justin probably thought he was going to wait a bit longer
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for it. Now, a couple of handicaps Carney has in that sense is, I mean, in some ways,
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not being known helps. If you're very heavily tied to a liberal government that people were
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clearly tired out with, you're just going to end up wearing that going in. So every other person
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is running that liberal leadership race. The second place contender is Chrystia Freeland,
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who was basically Trudeau's second in command for a long time. Tweak. Very strange, strange lady.
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She's smart enough compared to many of Trudeau's cabinet members, but
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not really a contender for prime minister at this time. She though was, even though she broke away
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from Trudeau at the very end, if she became prime minister, she would be the next Kim Campbell
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because she just would, it's just another incarnation of the same thing that everybody
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was tired of and wanted to get rid of. I mean, they haven't really learned to despise her as
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much as everybody's gotten sick of Justin, but they would quickly enough because how could she
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claim she's going to be any different? She was side by side with Trudeau the whole time. But
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that's part of the challenges that the Liberals have. They've got to campaign against themselves.
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And the carbon tax, that's the big legacy policy. That's the big one that Justin just would not
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back down on under any circumstance. That was his legacy policy. It's clearly dead. People
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despise it. It's terrible. It hasn't changed the climate. It isn't revenue neutral. And,
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you know, the big killer for it was when Justin Trudeau carved out an exception for
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the carbon tax for maritime provinces to try and help his support out there. If it's so important
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that we're saving the world with this tax, how could you possibly just carve out a chunk because
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it's now more electorally expedient for yourself? You should. It's hypocrisy. And that was the end
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of that tax. It's still with us, but they cannot campaign on having it. So basically they've all
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turned around and said, we're going to get rid of it. But Carney isn't quite going to get rid of it.
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They're just going to slap a fresh coat of paint on it.
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He's saying, you know, we'll just put it on the heavy polluters industry.
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Industry right now that's reeling under the tariffs with Mark Carney.
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Well, the bottom line is, in the end, it always hits the consumer.
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What are they going to do when the carbon tax gets slapped on all their inputs and things like that?
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But he can still, he's never been elected in the spot.
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He can try to play that to his advantage to a degree because, again, not being known, he's not necessarily associated directly with the liberal brand.
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So he's going to have to straddle the razor in a way to show himself as a loyal liberal leader, yet not part of the liberals that were there.
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We'll talk a little bit about that when Sean and Jen come in here, because I don't think they think he's very strong.
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If you've got a strong candidate in election, you put them in front of everybody as much as possible.
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He does very, very few long-form interviews, often on American TV.
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Look, you can get away with that during a liberal love-in and leadership race.
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But in a general election, you've got to get out there and speak to people.
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Why are you guys afraid to put them out there with them then?
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I'm sure they're training the heck out of him right now.
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The other handicap he has, and that's a reality in Canada,
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And that was found in the liberal, and it's funny, the legacy media.
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And I'll tell you, Carney's French is better than mine.
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But mine, that's because mine's virtually non-existent.
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But Carney is still, if you're going to be prime minister,
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Quebecers will not support somebody who does not speak French well to them.
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So I'm certain that every spare moment they've got right now, they're trying to up his training on French.
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One of the problems he had in the debate was he didn't understand the question.
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It's one thing to be able to speak slowly and get your rehearsed answers out in French.
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It's another if you can't understand the questions that are coming in.
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So let's get on to the next person, Pierre Polyev.
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now english is certainly his first language and his name is very french so Pierre Polyev
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but he was uh raised in Calgary he's really got that nice broad appeal in a sense he came from
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the west now he's in the east he's been in parliament a long time he's fluent in French
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um I don't know how heavily accented it is but he's most he's absolutely comfortable with it
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so that's not a handicap for him uh one of the handicaps you know I'll try for Polyev
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when he was in Harper's government in the past.
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The other thing was Polyev is losing that carbon tax issue,
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even though, as I said, Carney is rebranding it
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But Polyev has been using it as a hammer for a long time
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And the liberals have found somewhere where he's weak.
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They found an Achilles heel for him because they're associating him with Trump.
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Now, Polioff hasn't really been that close with Trump.
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He never has been a MAGA type of conservative, but still some supporters of the party show up with the MAGA hats and things like that.
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And right now, Trump is so universally loathed in Canada.
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And I know there's some many Trump supporters who watch my show, but let's face it.
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The majority of Canadians are not impressed with Donald Trump right now.
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so uh polyev has to distance himself from that and the liberals are trying their hardest to
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their campaign ad the other day and it showed polyev right next to trump they put the face
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there they put the face there they took similar quotes and wrapped them together terribly unfair
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but it's effective it works and uh he's gonna have to be careful he's gonna have to distinguish
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himself from the liberals still keep the conservative base happy and uh managed to
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you know, cause that wedge to get in there and make Canadian support. One of the issues with
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Polly Evans seems his likability. A lot of people, he just grates on them. It's just the reality.
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Politics is a popularity contest. Make no, you know, have no doubt about that. So I don't find
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him as annoying as others do apparently, but that's me. I'm biased. I've got my thing where
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you got to look at the voters. So he's got to get solid on a lot of those things. And we got down
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nonetheless, as I said, Jagmeet Singh. And he is in terrible, terrible trouble. His party is just
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sunk in the polls. They have no money to go to the election. The Liberals pulled hard left under
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Justin Trudeau. So basically they ate Jagmeet's lunch. So they have difficulty distinguishing
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themselves from Justin. And they're going into this, you know, in a lot of trouble. They're
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going to lose what few seats they have. It's going to be an ugly, ugly election for Singh. You can
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see why he's not eager to get into it any faster than he has to. It'll be interesting to watch him
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try to even garner some attention in this thing. Go farther down, we got Blanchet. He's the one
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going into this election the happiest. He really is. He's strong. He's popular in Quebec. He's
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smart. He's been strong in the debates. He's not going to win the general election. He doesn't
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care. He doesn't have to campaign to the whole country. He just campaigns to Quebec. So he's
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going to continue to do what he does. He's unapologetic with saying, all I want to do is
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stand up for Quebec. And he will do what he does in there. So I mean, among any of them, anyways,
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if somebody's eager for this election, Blanchett is the one. Now, getting farther down the lane,
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we go elizabeth may i mean seriously she's unhinged it really takes it really shows how
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ideologically bent you have to be to support her as a member of the house of commons she was the
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green leader and then she resigned then they had a leadership race but they made a mistake they
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elected a jew yeah that's really what happened that's what got the greens so upset that basically
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internal turmoil kicked out their own leader right after the last election because they were fighting
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over having a jewish leader they didn't like that that's what the palestinians think how could we
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possibly do this what an error and then elizabeth came and assumed the leadership again just a
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bizarre bizarre party yet there's still enough kooks out there to vote green to give her a seat
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and and one other person she's gonna be there she's gonna be annoying through the debate i
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guess good for comic relief uh but she's not a contender for anything i guess at best she can
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hold on to her two seats she would hope and uh she just gets more bizarre as time goes though
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so uh you know i and people like to make fun of her i do now and then poke at it you know for her
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her drunken performance at a press gallery uh function one time where she just went off the
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rails and uh a conservative mp i think it was a rate kind of escorted her away from the microphone
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own. But to be fair, hey, I'm a recovered alcoholic. I've done some stupid things at times
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when I was pissed. You know, she had her moment and it was embarrassing. I hope she doesn't have
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a chronic drinking problem. I don't wish that on anybody, but she is chronically nuts and that
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won't change. So we'll see that going through this. And finally, in the bottom, we got Bernier
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Maxime. And it's just the People's Party of Canada has just been in decline for years and years.
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I think he would have been interesting maybe if he'd have won the conservative leadership years ago.
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And he's just never been able to establish himself, turn it into something, and become a contender in these sorts of races anymore.
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He's now, I guess, trying to corner his spot by being pro-Trump in some ways, very anti-immigration.
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He's really catering to the far end of the right, fair enough.
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it's your niche but again when i'm talking about seat efficiency uh he doesn't have any so he
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doesn't have a support concentrated anywhere strongly enough that he's going to come out
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of this with a seat they're already complaining a lot that they aren't in the debate but uh
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to be fair and again is bernier's been on the show a couple of times i like him he's smart
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but i mean you can only have so many people in a debate and kind of drawing one of the lines is
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is having a seat or at least a viability for one and he's he's just not in contention for it
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so he's not going to be in the debates and to be honest i don't think he should be at this point
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you know build up that support get to that point that's fine but in the meantime you know he's just
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not a contender he's going to be there in the election let's see what happens i mean if they
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do similar stuff like some of his crazy supporters did you know throwing pebbles at the prime minister
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and things like that, Bernier might get it down to 1%. We'll see. But that's kind of the breakdown
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of where the leaders are sitting right now. Anyways, and things can change over a campaign.
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Now, I want to turn to a couple of our reporters said earlier, they were at an event recently.
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It was a Mark Carney event. And, uh, you know, speaking of the debates, for example, I mean,
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that that's organized typically by media and so on, who's going to be in, who's not,
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they ask the questions, they do the other aspects of it. Our legacy media didn't speak up much when
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Mark Carney turned away some Western Standard reporters from an event. As I said, you can hide
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from the press during curated leadership type events and things like that, but it's difficult
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to hide from them in a general election. You're going to have to get out, you're going to have to
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talk to them. We're going to be there. We're going to be asking questions. You can't shut us out of
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everything. So let's get to it. We got Jen Hodgson and Sean Polzer in the studio. They were at the
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Kearney event a few days ago. Welcome to my show. I won't shut you out. You always get a chance to
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come in here and babble at me or ask questions, but I'm not the one to question. What happened?
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I mean, you know, we saw the videos. They sent a letter to the Standard, like a press release or
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something like that? Well, they sent it, uh, to, uh, Derek, our BC Bureau, uh, chief out in, uh,
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Jared. Jared. Yeah. Didn't I say Jared? Nice. In beautiful Vancouver. Yeah. Yeah. Cronian hang
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up on the boss over there. Oh, did I say Derek? Yeah. Oh my, that's okay. Um, yeah, you're right.
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No, they, um, they sent a letter to him, uh, essentially basically asking him to RSVP. Yeah.
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So we did. And obviously he's in Vancouver, so it was left to us to show up to, what should we call it, Versailles North?
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Yeah, that banquet hall. It's interesting. I've seen the outside of it.
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Well, Sean and I were looking at the, because we were allowed into the lobbies.
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yeah it was more like a foyer and i put it looks like versailles and shot pointed out the peeling
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paint and this siding coming off of the wall and so you know it's not quite just the illusion yeah
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so i mean just to give people in those northeast calgary and and it's a banquet hall it's a thing
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with the indian community up there they hold huge functions often weddings gatherings and so on they
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have those massive banquet halls that i i love the indian community but boy they love the gaudi
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And George Chahal is Calgary's one and only Liberal member of Parliament.
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He did, though that didn't help us any, even though you know Chahal himself and even asked about George.
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So when we first arrived, it was a very young staffer.
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She was telling Sean that in the last election, she wasn't even old enough to vote.
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And, you know, she tried her best to be helpful.
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And she reached out to her superiors to see if we could, in fact, go in.
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It's like anybody that was in charge of anything there didn't really want to talk to us at all.
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But it seemed like she was going to let us in, the second woman.
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It was like somebody overruled her because Sean was telling her that he's covered the prime minister before at these events and that, you know, we have the invitation letter and we showed them.
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She was the one who sent it to Jared because she was from the West.
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She walked away with the invitation letter that she had sent, and then they disappeared for like 25 minutes.
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All of the legacy media journalists were allowed into the neighborhood.
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They were all walking by us, and then these three big dudes in turbans come in and say,
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I mean, it sounds like it was an oversight in their part.
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I mean, if they'd been better organized, they never would have sent out the invitation to the standard and avoided this, which is still pathetic.
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Well, I think the invitation probably came from the Kearney people, and then, like you said, the actual function was being organized by the people on the ground, which included Chahal, and then who's the other fellow that was Jody Gondack's campaign manager that she fired?
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Stephen, yeah, and apparently he doesn't like us very much.
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Stephen the Weasel Carter, I don't know why he doesn't like me.
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I don't know why he doesn't like me, I don't even know.
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Just to show that Stephen's in good company and with the porch pirate Shahal, it was chief of stiff and it shows Carter, because multiple times Stephen Carter, just so folks know, he's a political strategist who latches on to some very senior political people, at least gave him more money in severance pay because he gets fired and he gets beautiful severance packages than most people make working for a living.
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he is a true political whore he will wherever this is something else to let people know this
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one doesn't run on tv i could be a little more unhinged uh than i am on other ones but i mean
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i just yes steven brings a visceral reaction out of me because i didn't realize he was there but
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that would tell me right off where the sticking point came on letting uh us into that event then
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but it also shows that steven didn't come out tell you he sends a young volunteer well she was at the
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door he actually sent three burly security while they were waiting for us because her hand was
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shaking while we were telling her and she knew she knew what was going on yeah you know then
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they probably warned her and they probably said oh these people are bad and you know unfair to
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volunteers you know it's just cowardly i mean get out there and just and even the rebels sent their
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smallest reporter i mean it's only about five foot tall she didn't look very they used to have
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Adam, you know, Adam could come in and kind of, uh, that might be a different story.
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I mean, just to, you know, we had a friendly competition with rebel, not a big thing, but
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they tend to like using events like that to kind of go bananas if they get kicked out.
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You know, the men's always loves to make a scene and get wrestled out of the place or
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We tried to be constrained and polite and patient.
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I mean, they did just have us milling around in this foyer while the other journalists
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could just waltz right into the other room and so they waited until the foyer area was completely
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cleared before they send right those three security guards and they were expecting a scene
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and i told and i told jen this is what they were going to do and then i said you notice that
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undercover cop you know to the right she goes what what had to cover and it's from for me
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distinguishing them between security guards they're in plain clothes they have the wire in
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here but sean said no that is clearly and he's armed he's got a gun and he's pointing to the
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door and it's like okay okay i don't fall from having heard that there is a political leader
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at a function who's probably going to be prime minister a little while you never know what kind
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of bar might show up you should probably have i suppose a member of the police there but i mean
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you guys weren't out to uh and and we were bugging the rebel uh reporters like gee you get arrested
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like four times a week you know why aren't you up they got a card to put up if arrested here's my
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lawyer. He's standing behind a 20-year-old, you know, intern in a plaid shirt and a rugby jersey,
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and we're standing behind the rebel reporter here. I mean, as I was saying earlier, it doesn't bode
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well for Carney, though, right? That doesn't show a strong, confident leader. I mean, you've got to
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deal with media members you don't like. Absolutely. And so, well, even Trudeau, I mean, like, I get
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along with his press people, and I had a similar kind of situation where he was at SAID, you know,
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they didn't tell us where he was and we got tipped off you know because dave knows there's
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everybody in town so you know i showed up and i walked in behind rick bell you know who slipped
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and fell on the pavement we helped up and hauled in you know but then you know i introduced myself
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to trudeau's press people and they were really nice they made me up a badge and they let me in
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and i had to go through the you know uh when you go see the prime minister you get quarantined
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because he's got dogs on the swat team yeah and everybody but you know it wasn't a big deal and
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For them directly, he'll offer some word salad, but...
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Well, I mean, if you want to get the conference over with,
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you just let Rick do his preambles and, you know,
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Once he gets to the question, he's not a Trudeau fan.
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But so you kind of have to admire Justin a little bit for that, at least.
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I mean, relationships with media have changed, you know, from how they were in the past.
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If you look, and it's conservatives aren't necessarily a lot better.
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I mean, a lot of us loved watching Carney, or not Carney, Polly Munching an Apple while getting loaded questions from another reporter.
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But at the same time, doing something like that would have been unimaginable 15 years ago, no matter who you were and how unfair the reporter might have been.
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And you get Trump, he's kicking other media outlets out from the White House press office.
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it's and carney's inside complaining about trump but yet he's doing the exact same thing yeah it's
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not a good trend all around really i mean you know from all of the the i guess maybe it's a sign the
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media is getting a little more biased too uh but it's well it doesn't work you know uh rachel
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notley did the same thing in the election you know barred us and and went to like absolute
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ridiculous lengths like you know they were intimidating jonathan bradley you know you
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know mighty motion right but the nice thing is jonathan never gave up though he was so it's
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yeah but yeah so but i mean it just makes you look like i don't know how to get to assholes
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outwardly yeah and like what is he afraid of so it's going to be the what the content of our
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questions well it's it and we're uh certainly a conservative leaning outlet uh editorially but i
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mean there's nothing wrong with that news is the news yeah but i mean every outlet has you know
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And even in this newsroom, I would say at the, we all have, you know,
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we definitely have a conservative, uh, you know, outlook propensity, but it's
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not, you know, but there's kind of a spectrum I tell, uh, I tell these guys,
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it's kind of like autism, you know, there's this spectrum of, of where we
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land on it, uh, but yeah, it's just, I mean, so you're gearing up though.
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We got an election campaign and we're pretty sure coming probably within a
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couple of weeks or a few weeks i mean he can you know other parties can keep us out of their events
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that can happen but if they're public press events they're not gonna be able to hide forever well i
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don't know because i was thinking about that because it seems to me that they're probably
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organized by the writing association so i'm kind of a local level and george to hall being
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so what did bwassenet resign that means george is like the only liberal no he's still in there
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Yeah, no, he got out of cabinet, but I don't know.
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Just for folks who haven't followed that, Randy Bross is a member of parliament at Edmonton, a liberal.
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It sounds like he'd be fake being of indigenous heritage.
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A lot of conflict of interest type of things happening with this company.
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and then bizarre excuses, claiming it was another Randy, not me.
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Yet at the same time, he said he's running again,
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which shows that there's probably not a big line of people
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And how short of a memory that the public can have too.
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since Carter's around, it'll be even harder on him.
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I mean, the last federal election, his little claim to fame was
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he was caught on a doorbell camera stealing conservative flyers
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from a mailbox so he's called the porch pirate uh that was again humiliating i mean normally a
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liberal member of parliament in alberta will get an automatic cabinet seat because they just need
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to try and get regional balance shahal never got a seat because and randy did yeah because he was
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just too immersed well george was also the soccer coach of my partner's kid right so we were at an
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event a few weeks back at state and you know george happy to be there and he walked up to
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Elena and said, hi, and you know, and Ellen introduced me and I was wearing my Western
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standard jacket, you know, but you know, we sure can.
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And, uh, you know, it's not an unknown quantity.
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So the other day, you know, I kind of saw him in the back.
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I was like, hey, George, hey, George, you know, right.
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Yeah, you know who your real friends are if they walk right past you on the sidewalk,
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Well, we'll see how things unfold as the election gets rolling, though.
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I mean, again, you guys are from the reporting area.
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I mean, if it's me showing up, okay, of course he's a prick and he's going to ask something provocative or unfair and try to catch me or something.
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We just want to report and also pose those questions
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that would be important to a conservative audience.
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So if he were to become the next prime minister,
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he'd be governing over conservatives and liberals alike.
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So to accept questions from all sides of the spectrum.
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is because I'm not a guy that gets into these kind of,
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you know, petty little partisan scraps with people.
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you know i write about oil and gas this is like sports right but you know even in sports so at
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the herald uh we had hockey players on the flames that just refused to deal with certain reporters
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right so you just send a different reporter that's all yeah you know in this case i guess
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you know you can't they couldn't really ban the outlet you know what i mean doesn't do them really
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any favors i mean if anything it makes us even crabbier at them guys like me they get no more
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likely to be mean in my uh editorials and commentary that i well and some of these hockey
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players they get run right out of town like if they don't get along with people you know what
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i mean well it's half the game they're getting traded yeah and hockey believe it or not it's
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sports but you still you have to get along you gotta keep their fans happy i mean they pay your
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bills and out here the electorate they vote i mean there could be swing voters because i was
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saying earlier polyev you know tends to be popular in alberta but he doesn't endear himself to
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Everybody, there could be swing voters who read the standard and say, you know, I, I might, I mean, you might be a minority, but you need every vote you can get.
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And as reporters, I mean, we're supposed to be objective, but we're still allowed to vote.
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You know, I'm a citizen, you know, I'm a reporter, but I'm also a citizen.
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So, you know, and I have an opinion, like, you know, maybe I can't always say exactly what I think about people.
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Well, often these politicians speak for themselves too, with their words and actions.
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We don't really have to put too much commentary in our articles to really just show what's going on.
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I was trying to mince it and be a little diplomatic, but there was kind of an uncharacteristic area.
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I mean, it's an interesting kickoff for things anyways.
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We know they're going to be doing the circuit over the course of the campaign.
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And, you know, we're going to have Carney here in campaign mode in Calgary at least probably once.
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He would have went to school in Edmonton about the same time I did.
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There's no, I don't know how to put the couch system terms.
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There's not a lot of white people that come from Fort Smith.
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And if you do, it's either in the Army or in the RCMP.
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And then, of course, he went to school in Edmonton.
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He would have went to the U of A probably about the same time I did.
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I haven't been here, but I've been an oil patch worker.
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Well, they'll all claim to have been everywhere and claim to relate to everybody on everything.
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You know, Paulio's going to come here and talk about how he was born in Calgary and he's going to speak in Ontario and he's going to talk about how he's been in Ontario for 20 years.
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Even though Palliev has three passports, you know, he's English, he's Irish, English and Irish, square that one, and Canadian.
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Well, they'll probably bring it up over the course.
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Well, because Carney gets a lot of flack for holding three passports, but if Palliev has the same...
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That's why I was surprised, because he had Palliev, so that's why I was saying I didn't know he had a...
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And that's something that they do hit with Ignatie if they hit quite hard.
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I mean, that was an effective campaign when he ran against Harper.
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For people who don't remember, he was, you know, Ignatie was a smart guy and so on, a liberal candidate.
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But he was in the States for most of his time as a, you know, an academic, came back to run.
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And it was kind of true because once he lost, he's been gone.
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This means Stéphane Dion, did he not have a European citizenship as well?
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But I mean, at the time when we were talking about patriotism so hard as we are right now.
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You know, there's kind of an irony there, right?
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You know, because we've gone from the tax, the carbon tax election to now, it's going to be the tariff election, right?
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And, and everybody's going to be trying to outdo each other to say who's the most Canadian.
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I mean, you know, we, we thrive on this or I do anyways, makes the vein pulse in my head, but at the same time, I enjoy it.
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Seeing the approach that all of the leaders have across the country, federal and provincial alike, you see this, we want to fight back.
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These are unjustified tariffs and yeah, fair enough.
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but it's becoming this like rallying cry that we hear across the board.
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And, uh, I was talking to Paul Yev's office yesterday asking them about this
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because their rhetoric sounds actually really similar.
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And, uh, they said that Paul Yev was the first one to come out with the
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So yeah, so we can go back and look at timelines.
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And getting back to media, actually, you know, for part of it, I mean,
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people were asking the other day with big responses to it and they said,
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Somebody said he did do a long presser and conference, but CBC gave the whole thing to Trudeau and even Singh, in other words.
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Just the other day, Polyev was giving a press conference, and you could see him talking, doing his press conference in the background of the CBC broadcast,
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while CBC had some analyst come on talking about Premier Ford's announcement that he had made moments before that.
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So they really don't prioritize Polyev and his party.
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And that's the only other thing before I let you go.
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I mean, have you heard from any other media members that we had that independent press
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gallery, you know, kind of condemn our being shunned from this, but, uh, most legacy media
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probably hasn't said a peep about, uh, no legacy media, you know, often media used to
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I mean, you know, even if it was members they didn't like, I mean, they kind of, Hey, you
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don't start pushing media members around cause we, we need our access, but yeah, no, nothing.
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The rebel shared our videos around on social media, but nothing from legacy media.
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Well, you know, I have to say that I was interested at some point in what Connie would have had to say, you know, because I do consider myself a thoughtful journalist, you know, I would have, I wouldn't have minded, you know.
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It's not about asking trick questions or, you know, after Tuesday, I just kind of set to hell with it.
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What little I watched of the debates was like about five minutes.
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It was just totally unimpressed because it's just all canned.
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Well, that was in the loins. There is no policy thing in there at all. So, I mean, I don't know that anybody really knows what he stands for.
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No. Well, speaking of the debates, I mean, that was the liberal love. And it's going to be interesting with, even as much as the legacy media loves the liberals in many ways, the French debate. For the first time, I'm really going to watch that closely in the general election, just because I got a feeling Blanchett and Pauly Ever just going to beat Kearney like a red-headed stepson because his French is lead branch.
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And they're going to speak fast, and they're going to speak because, you know, it's hard to understand.
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And when Carnie does attempt to speak French, he says something completely different than he does in English.
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Put both sides of his mouth one French, one English.
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I'm sure that every spare moment they got, they're just training him on that French because, boy, it's going to be a rough night.
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Since the world's crazy enough, nothing surprises anymore.
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Well, I'll let you get back to your desk, guys.
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I know there's more to write on, and we'll check in again, I'm sure, as the auction progresses.
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This is the time I like to remind everybody, too, the reason we've got these reporters going out there and beating on those closed doors and being shunned and turned away.
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And of course, they're working their butts off is because you guys have been subscribing.
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And so if you've subscribed already, thank you very much.
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If you haven't, come on, westernstandard.news slash subscription.
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Just like when you used to get a newspaper delivered to your house.
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It keeps us rolling, and again, we have to, you know, just express our appreciation for it.
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This is one of my worries going into this election.
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As I said, you know, we have a slant, in a sense, as a conservative outlet.
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It doesn't mean we misrepresent, though, or do other things.
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But the problem we've got right now is it's polarized in that we've got so much subsidized media going on out there.
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We've got the CBC, of course, and one candidate, Polyev, talking about defunding him.
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It's very much in their interest to keep the liberals in power.
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And we've got other outlets that are reliant on a number of other subsidies to keep themselves going.
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And by the same thing, they are very motivated not to have Polyev come in and win this election,
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And it doesn't mean necessarily that the reporting will be bad.
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you're not sure anymore if they're being fair if they're being self-serving and it's a bad place
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to be that's why independent is so important no matter what's left or right i mean even canada
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land well i think they take some subsidies but i mean you know new media it's the future it's
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where we got to be so again subscribe keep these things going so we can get out there and keep
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holding them accountable all right i'm gonna turn to our news editor just to kind of run down the
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week and the top issues and things like that he's the guy who really keeps things going sending
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these guys out so they can get turned away at places by steven the weasel carter uh dave
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naylor how do you do steven the weasel carter that brings back memories oh yes and stuff i'm
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doing great cory how are you good good just getting into election mode you know and as i
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said i'm enjoying this format where i can you know just get a little more uh relaxed congratulations
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on the old new show yeah he has a title for it yeah ah it's this is cory morgan show second take
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oh okay that's all right yeah that's all right did you screw up take one we'll see get the
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feedback depends on who you ask yeah so yeah uh what do you say about the week every day's an
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adventure right with uh trump and the tariffs is the was the big news uh all week and uh whether
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or not he was going to take them off take put you know he's given mexico a month-long break
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because he says he gets along with the mexican president and we all know he doesn't get along
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with our Prime Minister, or the Governor, as he's referred to.
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So tariffs has kept us busy, and the Liberal leadership.
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Mark Carney in town, I know you had Jen and Sean probably talking about that
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and how he refused to answer our questions and hid behind the skirt
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uh fabricating stuff that he said like he helped paul martin uh balance the budget and stuff like
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that that just were were not true uh he seems to have some kind of problem telling the truth
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and uh there was an interesting story on um when he was the head of uh brookfield capital or
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investments or whatever the heck it was they avoided when he was the chairman of it they
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avoided billions and billions of dollars in tax that was owed to the Canadian government.
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And Carney's company shifted it offshore, I think to Tonga or someplace like that.
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That, you know, in just one year, they've avoided paying six and a half billion dollars
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I mean, how many schools could that have built or nurses hired or stuff like that?
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So it doesn't give a good example of a potential prime minister coming forward.
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I mean, it's interesting in that, you know, I mean, he's got a long resume.
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But I think some of what's showing though, he's not a campaigner.
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You know, you could speak at a press conference, but electoral politics is a different animal.
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You got to watch what you say and think on your feet.
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I think, you know, Polly would just destroy him in an election debate, I think.
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But I should say he's not a strong man, or he's not a dumb man, but he comes across as lacking energy.
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And now we're focused on the last days of the Trudeau regime, thank God.
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And it's going to be an orgy of appointments between now and Sunday.
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Sunday, he's reportedly going to hire dozens of liberal, appoint dozens of liberal-leaning
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judges, you know, any sort of government board that, you know, he's going to appoint hundreds
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and hundreds of people in the last days of his prime ministership.
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So, you know, that type of pork barreling does not go down well with Canadians, I don't
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Oh, well, when, when Justin's dada did that, uh, John Turner really got slaughtered in the election because of that.
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I mean, that was the turning point when Brian Mulroney just, uh, wasted him in the, in the debates.
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You, sir, had a choice, I think was, was the quote and it really, I, yeah, it sickens people.
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So I think that bounce that you may have seen Carney get, uh, uh, when he first started the leadership campaign, I think that's going to hopefully widen a little bit now.
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So there are reports that the Liberals have already hired an Air Canada plane
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to be their campaign jet, and it's all decked out now in Liberal colours.
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And, you know, all the big wigs in the Conservative Party
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have been summoned back to Ottawa all week, and they're no doubt plugging away.
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and he's expected to call an election within a week.
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I mean, yeah, I started the show with my speculations of when it's going to be called.
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I figured he might go two weeks and go down on the throne speech just as it's a nice campaign kickoff, right?
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But then you have to call part of him back, right?
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Yeah, for a day, just to have your campaign kickoff, and then you go back to the...
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I don't think we'll see him as Prime Minister in the House of Governments.
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I just think, uh, you know, it's, he's, he's, he's looking at the polls and they, they haven't been this close in a very, very long time.
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Uh, so the longer he, the longer he doesn't call it, the more people will get angry over Trudeau's last days and, and stuff like that.
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I think it's going to be sooner than later, but you know, who knows?
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Well, we'll see, but he'll be covering it hard and heavy.
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It'll be what, Sunday evening when they announce this?
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Sunday evening, our Jen Hodgson will be covering it.
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So we'll have the breaking news story up on the site and additions all the way through
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We'll see if he can garner up some energy for that.
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Just give him a rail before he gets up there and see if it worked for Freeland.
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Or do Elizabeth May and just get hammered.
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You know, I mean, who'd have thought he would have kicked a leader of the Ukraine out of the Oval Office?
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People bitching that he's wearing his military uniform, which he's done for the last three years.
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It doesn't matter who he visits, he wears that uniform.
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And people forget Winston Churchill came to the White House in his military garb.
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It's, uh, you just, you just don't know what's coming.
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Keeps us rolling and keeps the readership going skyrocketing.
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I know you got a long dragged out meeting there earlier.
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I'll let you get to whatever you've probably been backing up all that time.
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I think I got a couple hundred emails to go through now.
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Thanks for the check-in and we'll talk to you later, Dave.
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as our news editor, Dave Naylor. And yes, this just keeps going and going. But again,
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it's better than dead news times, at least from our self-serving aspect of things, right?
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So let's look at a little more on what's going on then. I'm going to go into what the top issues
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are and what's been considered to be the top issues. And because that's what they're going
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to campaign on. As I said, with Polyev, he was hitting hard on the carbon tax, but he kind of
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lost that now that all the liberals have changed their minds that are not in favor of carbon tax.
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So this was a large poll done by Abacus. It's David Coletto. They're one of the better pollsters
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out there for sure. So number one, you can see right on the top of the list, rising cost of
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living. 61%. That's what people were asked with their top three issues. 61% of people said the
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rising cost of living. The bottom line is that's a reality in politics. That's where the woke have
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been really screwing up this last few years. Paying the bills ends up coming first. That doesn't
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matter. When times are good, you can start messing around with other stupid little policies,
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vanity projects, virtue signaling, all that. But when you can't make the rent, when you can't buy
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the groceries, then you start getting concerned. So the cost of living is way up on top. Number two
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is Donald Trump and his administration. That's quite something because that would have been an
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issue that, you know, six months ago didn't exist on the issues. Now it's number two by a long shot.
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Again, with the tariff or with all of the other stuff going on, of course, and it's kind of pretty
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tightly tied into that rising cost of living. Number three, we've got healthcare. That's always,
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again, in the top areas of polling for people with issues. Provincially, usually it's the bigger
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one, but I mean, it's still a big issue to people in general. That's 38% of people felt that was up
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top housing, affordability, and accessibility. So that kind of gets right to the top of that rising
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cost of living again. Everybody's worried about their wallet. That's the reality. So people,
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when they're campaigning, they're going to be trying to find a way to say, how are we going
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to make you more wealthy or at least less fearful that you're going to go broke because the next
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one below that is the economy. So it's not often actually when we see it laid out so solid, that
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means people are pretty scared for their economic well-being. They're worried about their wallets
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and tax hikes, big government programs, things like that. I don't know if those are going to
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sell that well. Now, Justin Trudeau, as Dave said, he's going out the door and he's going to appoint
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a whole whack of people to a bunch of positions as favors to all his friends and buddies before he
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goes. Another thing he's going to do, maybe he's done, I don't know, but legacy projects is a big
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thing for when prime ministers are going out. So he just announced and entrenched this daycare
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program just massively i mean so he really wants to have something you know the justin trudeau
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daycare i can imagine because i mean justin still is probably inclined to finger painting and other
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such hobbies so he can relate to those kids there but it's not the government's job to raise our
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kids make things affordable and we can afford daycare we can afford to have kids at home or
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do what our choices but he's leaving with that big uh bomb as far as i'm concerned sitting there
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And we'll see what else he tries to entrench on his way out the door.
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Because, again, it's going to be hard for Carney.
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Just to throw these out, and then he's just going to leave right off into the sunset
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Another scary thought, just to keep people awake at night.
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Look at how history tends to repeat itself, right?
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We've got another crisis, all these things going on.
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when Pierre Trudeau resigned the first time. Don't forget, he wasn't gone. Everybody was
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sick to death of him. They were tired of him. He resigned. And then he came back not long later,
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and he managed to get four more years beating on us. He wasn't out the door for good, so we had
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to deal with him resigning twice. Will Justin come back in a year or two? Scary thought. But,
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you know, nothing's impossible anymore, right? Things are so nuts. All right, going farther down
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on the top issues facing Canada. Getting down now, 24% is immigration. That's kind of interesting
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because that was a hot issue for quite a while. It was one of the areas where the Liberals
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kind of backed down a bit because when we got the housing crisis really going in the healthcare
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crisis, so those things that are higher up, people did realize because the Liberals were pumping in
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massive amounts of immigration and immigrants, and we just didn't seem to have the ability
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to maintain them. So of course it puts a run on the cost of living, whether it's rentals or buying
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a house, it makes it more difficult to get into health facilities. And most Canadians do understand
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we're an immigration based country. Immigration is very important. We pride ourselves in being a
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place for people to come and make a new life and get here and settle in. And in fact, again,
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it's very important for our economy to have that going on. But if you have too much of it,
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You have to make sure that you're integrating it.
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So they overplayed it and it hit onto all those other areas.
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But it has dropped in and itself as an issue on the top of Canadian minds.
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So 24% saw that as one of their top three big issues.
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Climate change and the environment has dropped to 16%.
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This was where Justin Trudeau built his reputation.
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he's going to save the world from climate change. He's going to save all the fluffy bunnies from
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that sun burning all the forests down. And he was going to carbon tax us all into a better place.
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He was going to shut down the evil, nasty oil field. And it's down to 16% of people even find
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it in their top three issues anymore. Interesting for Elizabeth May as well, right? So that's really
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dropped. And that's what I was talking about when it comes to these types of issues I'm going to
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get to as we get farther down, when people have trouble paying the bills, those issues drop. If
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you're in an economic boom, that's when you can start talking about all these fluffy things,
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building windmills and sticking solar panels on top of taxis or something. Now it's down to 16%.
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This one, here's the one that got lower though, that I really, okay, fair enough. I didn't expect
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this to happen. Crime and public safety is 15%. Like an issue that the liberals have been beat
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up on a lot for, and I think rightly so, is, you know, we've got a lot of criminals out on bail,
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getting out, harming people. And, uh, you know, that, uh, along with, I mean, the things people
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want is they want a solid economy. They want to be able to pay their bills, but they also want to
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feel safe. They want to be able to think that their kids can get to school without getting
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harmed. They want to think themselves can get to work without, you know, being assailed somewhere.
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But people aren't seeing that as a, as a top, uh, issue in their top three right now. Anyway,
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so, okay. Surprising another one, job security and unemployment. So that one's kind of interesting.
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people don't think they're going to get laid off. That's down to 12%. People don't think they're
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going to get laid off, but they're worried about being able to pay the bills. That's what's going
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on. They're working and working, but they're falling farther back. They're not worried about
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being unemployed. They're just worried about making the car payment or buying the groceries.
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That's the problem. So it's an interesting thing going on. Below that, we get inequality and
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poverty. Now, people are worried about poverty. They're worried about inequality, but it gets
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into the DEI thing there's been a backlash you know diversity equity inclusion inequality people
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want equality they do they want everybody to have the same starting point at least it's just that we
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don't have to guarantee the end point for everybody and uh people have soured on that that's getting
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into the woke politics that's where we saw some of the backfiring going on and that's where we're
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down to 13 percent and bear in mind these are core liberal issues right when you get into that sort
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of stuff. This is where the liberals used to really earn their votes or thought they did.
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And we get down now to the threat posed by China and Russia. That's only 7%.
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The foreign interference file. This is the one that really was the beginning of the end for
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Justin Trudeau when things finally, you know, one of the scandals that finally caught up with Trudeau
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was the interference thing, was Chinese interference in elections and nominations
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and in politicians. And they ragged the puck and they dragged it out and they had their
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uh rapporteur and all their garbage and everything else and finally had this this sad little hearing
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and said it's a nothing burger and it apparently worked because i think i i don't think people
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are have given up on worrying about those things they're just tired out fine china's over well
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don't it's not guys actually it's not but that's still as far as the voters are concerned it is
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and actually getting straight direct to the chinese election interference that landed at
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2% in the polls with what people are concerned of. So they do see that issue as being behind them
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right now. I think they shouldn't, but it doesn't matter what I think in this case. This is what
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campaigners are looking at. This is what they're thinking about. What's going to get people out to
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vote for them? And this Chinese election interference, again, this is where Polyev
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gets a bit more of a disadvantage because that was a very effective area for him to really hit
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the liberals quite hard. And he's lost that because people apparently just aren't that
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concerned about it. Another strong area for liberals, indigenous reconciliation. That now
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is 4% of people see that as a big priority. People are kind of tired of that. The Kamloops
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residential school hoax, and it has been a hoax, guys. And people are starting to more openly say
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it. It's not saying that the residential schools were a good idea. It's not saying that the
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residential schools were nice places. It's not saying that people weren't abused. But it is
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saying that it was a load of baloney that 215 children were buried at that bloody school.
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it was a load of crap when the flags were put at half mass for six months over a hoax because they
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never even dug a hole what people are finding out now that that band got given 12 million dollars to
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go look and never looked they just pocketed the money they won't tell us what they did with the
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money so yeah and unfortunately because that makes people cynical uh because there are other areas
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that we've really got to work on in in first nations people in indigenous areas but when you
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have a hoax like that, people get sour and now it drops and drops towards the bottom of the
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priority issues for people. And that was through a poll. Polls are polls. There's lots of things
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you can do with polls to make them look the way you want them to look or not. Now I'm going to
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bring up projections. The polls have been bouncing around like a ping pong ball lately. And right
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There was actually a stronger poll for the Conservatives since then.
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As I said, seat distribution versus popular votes is a difficult thing to look at.
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It's projecting 160 seats for the Conservatives, 139 for the Liberals, 28 for the Bloc, 14 for the NDP, and 2 for the Greens still.
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The regional, we would certainly see some regional crankiness going on if this happened.
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You look in Alberta and Saskatchewan, and it's surprising.
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They project one Liberal seat gain in Saskatchewan.
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In Alberta, they figure one of the Liberals will lose their seat.
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Probably one of the Randys, but maybe Chahalm.
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And 35 Conservatives up there, but it's still solidly Conservative.
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but they feel that the Ontario Liberals will overtake.
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This is from when some projections were getting to the point
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of thinking the Liberals would be down to 22 seats.
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And suddenly it's bounced to this in the projections.
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We're looking at 36 Liberals, 28 Bloc, 13 Conservatives.
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They've got, I think, some of the most pizza politics going on, you know, a variety.
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You just don't know what is going to come out of BC.
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Back in the 90s when there was a reform party, you could have a reform party member, a good
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solid conservative blue type of member in a seat down in the lower mainland and right
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next door have a socialist NDP member in the next seat over to it.
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lower mainland though they're looking at 13 liberals 5 ndp and of course elizabeth may's
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little green hold out there on salt spring island and again these are projections they're difficult
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but it certainly has changed you need 172 seats to make a majority and nobody under this projection
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will win that if this holds i mean again we've got a campaign just about to begin we got all
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those issues to look at. And the polls are all over the map. I'm going to call up ECOS to start.
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Now, this is a poll that you really got to take this with a grain of salt. ECOS is owned by Frank
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Graves. Frank Graves is a character to say the least. He has been very vocal with his pro-liberal
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support and his outright loathing of the Conservative Party. And it says a lot about
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polls, that his polls turn out to be the most supportive of the Liberals out of everybody's.
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It does mean that he's letting his bias slip into his polling. So you really can't take his polls
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very seriously. It's very difficult to. And of course, so you look at that spike over on the end
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for the people who are watching this graphically, it shows, of course, the curve. A lot of people
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probably seen these poll spikes and the blue line is getting higher and higher over the last couple
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of years as the Conservatives are getting more support. The Liberals are going down, down, down,
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just plummeting under Trudeau. And then just in the last couple of weeks that the Liberals spike
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right up, the Conservatives plummet, the NDP plummet, and the Liberals actually pass the
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Conservatives. He's got them at 38.4% support for the Liberals, 37% for the Conservatives,
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down to 11.8% for the NDP. Is it possible? I guess maybe. But you see, as I said, he's probably,
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as far as I'm concerned, especially due to his past public statements, the least credible
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pollster of them all out there. Though there's no doubt that there has been a bounce. The liberals
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have been going up in the polls. So we'll go to Leger next. And they're talking now about,
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see, here's some of the difference. They say 43% conservative, 30% liberal. So that's like a,
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14 or 15 percent deviation from ECOS. Massive. Massive. Who do you trust with these? One of
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them is wrong. Terribly wrong. I'm more inclined to think it's ECOS is wrong just because he's
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shown such bias. It does also check with Mark Carney as leader. It thinks it would rise three
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more points. They think it would do better if assuming Carney's in there to 33 percent,
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But it's showing a pretty strong conservative thing.
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But again, quite a ways from that 20-point spread that was there before.
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That's where, again, Polyev has to endear himself with the public.
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Because even with the polls like Legere, who's not as crazy as Frank Graves,
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I mean, this also shows that there was a bounce recently.
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So the conservatives kind of went up five points.
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You know, when you're talking week by week, five point changes, and you're not even into
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the campaign yet, this is going to be a rough and tumble campaign, folks.
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You know, numbers, unless there's a particular disaster hits or something like that, you
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don't see them swing too, too much throughout a campaign.
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And I'm not liking him just because his polls tend to support conservatives.
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I just, he seems to really dig in the deepest on these.
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And as you can see, this is a chart of his work over the last few years and ongoing polls,
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It shows a conservative drop in the last couple of weeks and a conservative spike, or I mean
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a liberal spike, I should say, and the, and the NDP collapse.
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So, I mean, they're all correlating to a degree, but, uh, still again, the outliers
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when when we're hitting other polls that are saying that they're neck and neck this one's
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saying there's there's uh 12 points between the conservatives and the liberals but the trending
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look at the trending for the people who can see the graph anyways the liberals are trending up
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trending is important it's everything it's momentum so as dave was saying he feels that
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you know carney is going to call that election very quickly after uh being crowned as the leader
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of the liberal party uh it makes sense you know it makes sense you want to get in as i said strike
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while the iron's hot, while you got the momentum. If you wait much longer, things can turn around
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and they're very hard to turn around. Right now you're on an upward swing. See if you can run a
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quick campaign and capitalize on that, pull it off. And meanwhile, Polyev, his momentum is going
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downwards, which again makes anybody in a war room start to sweat a little. I mean, it's not
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time to push the panic button yet by any means, but you've got to reevaluate where you were going.
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you obviously aren't appealing to the electorate quite as much as you had been before. The question
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is, is it Trudeau enough? You know, people were sick of him. There's no doubt about that, but
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will people really embrace Carney and think he's going to change things that much from where Trudeau
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was? I guess we'll see. That's what the campaign's all going to be about. So as we go through this,
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guys, I'm going to be covering this every week. We're going to give highlights. We're going to
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give updates. I'm going to pull up every poll I can. That's one of the great things during
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election time. Don't worry, there will be many, many polls. And they're imperfect, as I just
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showed. They're all over. So that's why I'll kind of report on a number of polls and just
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we'll try and extrapolate as well as we can what's going on with those things. Because
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you can't go with just one because they're all over the map. But it's still the best tool we
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have to kind of look at things before an actual election is held. So we'll look at the polls,
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Next week, there is going to be a new liberal leader.
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