Western Standard - Heading into election 2025!

00:00:00.000 Good day.

00:00:29.160 welcome to the cory morgan show second take so it's going to come every friday this is a special

00:00:35.080 series there's just so much going on and so much going to be happening and more than likely there's

00:00:40.700 going to be an election sometime in the next few months that we're going to come in every friday

00:00:45.260 for an hour or two and break down the federal issues the election issues have guests to cover

00:00:50.140 these things and then just try to help everybody sort through the crazy mire which is canadian

00:00:56.120 American politics of today. So, I mean, again, I just couldn't keep up with my Wednesday show

00:01:01.620 every week. There's just not enough time to hit it. So it's so important to get through these

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00:01:45.680 I'm going to have Jen Hodson and Sean Polzer on. They're two of our main reporters here at The

00:01:53.380 standard in the Calgary office. They had quite an experience at the Mark Carney event the other

00:01:58.060 night. You know, so it starts to kick things off with this election type thing. So election,

00:02:03.480 I'm going to start with that question. When's it going to be held? Well, you know what? We don't

00:02:07.320 know. We got all sorts of speculation, but thanks to Canada's weird system under the new, you know,

00:02:13.780 the Westminster parliamentary system, especially in a minority government situation, it could happen

00:02:19.900 at any time i'll start with the longest possible projection because some people don't quite

00:02:26.020 understand that either the the latest the election could possibly happen legally is october of 2026

00:02:35.200 so we're talking over a year and a half from now a government can stay in for five years before

00:02:41.680 they're constitutionally obliged to hold an election some people they've been saying no no

00:02:47.780 the fixed election date is set for October 2025. Yeah, that's legislation. That doesn't mean

00:02:54.200 anything. The government can overturn or amend or change that legislation anytime they want.

00:02:59.960 They don't have to go on that date that they set, that they put into their legislation. It's just

00:03:06.860 an arbitrary thing that they put. It looks nice. Alberta used to have a balanced budget legislation,

00:03:12.400 for example. It made it illegal for the provincial government to run a deficit. That was put in back

00:03:18.380 by Ralph Klein. And then eventually Ed Stelmack, when he was premier of Alberta, wanted to run a

00:03:23.860 deficit. So what did they do? Before the budget came in, they sat down, repealed their own

00:03:30.000 legislation, and then just brought in a deficit budget. Well, the same thing could work with a

00:03:35.240 federal election. So it doesn't matter what their legislation says, what the date's going to be.

00:03:39.240 The only thing that really matters is the Constitution.

00:03:41.740 Now, all that said, I think it's very, very unlikely it would drag out that long.

00:03:47.060 I mean, the world's so bizarre, I won't rule anything out.

00:03:50.960 But for them to manage to cling to power that long, as passive as Canadians are, I just don't see it happening. 1.00

00:04:01.280 And people are talking about, you know, an emergency being declared, things like that.

00:04:05.140 Yeah, but, you know, you just, it's not going to do them any favor.

00:04:09.240 and we're in such a strange, strange period right now.

00:04:12.880 So we've got to look at the factors,

00:04:15.140 unfortunately not the factors of the needs of Canadians,

00:04:17.540 but the needs of the Liberal Party

00:04:20.180 because that's what, unfortunately, it all comes down to.

00:04:23.680 Trudeau finally, though reluctantly, resigned

00:04:27.720 and it forced this rush to, as far as these things go,

00:04:32.160 rushed leadership race for the Liberal Party.

00:04:34.380 It's a coronation for Mark Carney.

00:04:35.840 We know that.

00:04:36.420 It's clear as day.

00:04:37.660 This isn't a race.

00:04:38.540 There's no, it's only a matter of how wide the spread is going to be in a few days, not who wins.

00:04:46.240 So Mark Carney will win the liberal leadership race.

00:04:50.580 Now, there's been some strange doublespeak coming out of Justin Trudeau on that,

00:04:54.780 where he didn't say he was going to hand the reins over to Carney right away.

00:04:59.860 We might be reading too much into that.

00:05:01.580 I don't know.

00:05:02.180 It's hard to say, but there is nothing legally that would force Trudeau to hand it over to Carney.

00:05:08.540 which still would create quite a mess if he didn't.

00:05:12.400 But things are just so weird.

00:05:14.420 Trudeau is quite enjoying the current tariff crisis, in some ways, anyways,

00:05:19.660 because he can stand there and be the leader.

00:05:22.160 He can be the defender of Canada.

00:05:23.960 He can be the man speaking for all of us,

00:05:26.440 or at least try to model himself as much as such.

00:05:29.240 He does not want to let go.

00:05:31.600 But it looks like he pretty much has to.

00:05:33.780 So let's assume, though, Justin, whether he likes it or not,

00:05:37.600 is going to step aside. He's going to hand that to Mark Carney. Mark Carney will then become our

00:05:42.760 Prime Minister. Welcome to Canada's system. Our Prime Minister will be a man who nobody in the

00:05:49.080 public, aside from some Liberal members, actually got to vote for. He will have the highest position

00:05:54.540 in the land without ever having stood, even for a local election, much less in a general election. 0.95

00:06:02.400 So Justin Trudeau's a lame duck. Carney, as far as I'm concerned, will be an illegitimate duck. 0.95

00:06:07.060 I mean, it's fair enough you've got to give the man a chance to get in and win the race and settle in, but he should face the electorate as soon as possible.

00:06:18.340 But the liberals won't look at it on a point of principle as to whether or not he should face the electorate as soon as possible.

00:06:25.460 What they're looking at is when is he most likely to win an election if he faces the public.

00:06:31.400 I now that if they conclude if they conclude October that's the next scenario I'm talking

00:06:40.080 about though their fixed election date would be the best time to try and win re-election

00:06:45.480 and I can see this happening I think it's the second most unlikely the most unlikely is pushing

00:06:51.240 it all the way to 2026 as I said the second most unlikely but still possible is getting more likely

00:06:56.580 is that Carney and the Liberals decide they want to have him sit

00:07:01.680 even as an unelected Prime Minister all the way until October

00:07:04.820 and then face the electorate then when their date and their legislation says they will.

00:07:11.500 Now to do that, it means that Jagmeet Singh, the leader of the NDP,

00:07:19.660 has to flip-flop.

00:07:20.600 He has to do an about-face because Singh said repeatedly

00:07:24.280 that he's going to vote to bring down the government at the first possible chance.

00:07:30.520 And that chance will come two weeks after Mark Carney becomes the leader of the Liberals.

00:07:37.200 But Jagmeet Singh is the weakest leader in the entire parliament.

00:07:41.520 There's no doubt about it.

00:07:42.320 He's constantly flipped and flopped and stepped on his own tongue.

00:07:45.660 He will be willing to cut a deal with the Liberals to stretch this out further.

00:07:52.320 He'll ask for something, and this is where negotiations start coming along.

00:07:56.640 What will he want?

00:07:57.980 He's already rung out this dental plan and pharma care and other things that he's claiming as NDP victories,

00:08:03.560 even though he's got a tiny amount of seats in the House.

00:08:06.040 What would he demand to keep Carney in power until October?

00:08:09.720 That gets scary, but both of them are desperate.

00:08:12.760 You see, Singh is desperate.

00:08:13.960 He doesn't want to go to an election, even though he's blustered and talked,

00:08:16.780 saying that he'd like to go to an election.

00:08:19.900 His party is broke.

00:08:21.540 they're in serious, serious trouble. They haven't been raising money. And in the polls,

00:08:26.080 they've been dropping into the toilet, mostly because people are saying, well, if Singh is

00:08:29.560 just going to constantly march hand in hand with Justin Trudeau and the liberals, I might as well

00:08:33.780 vote for the liberals. It's getting more and more difficult to distinguish the difference between

00:08:38.460 Singh's NDP and Trudeau's liberals. So people tend to go to the larger party. And now that this

00:08:44.100 tariff thing's going on, they're going there even more. I'll talk about polls a little later in more

00:08:48.260 detail. So if Singh and Carney cut a deal, and actually, you know, that 2026 scenario is the

00:08:55.100 same thing. It would take them doing something like that to pull it through, because it's pretty

00:08:59.740 clear the Conservatives are ready to go. They're going to vote non-confident as soon as they can.

00:09:05.340 The Bloc Québécois, very likely, and they've said as much as well, they want to go. Elizabeth

00:09:09.880 May with her two seats, and she's been talking and blathering, that's been kind of almost funny,

00:09:13.700 about negotiating a deal with the Liberals and the NDP, again, sort of to keep the nasty

00:09:20.980 Conservatives out of power. In other words, trying to find a way to delay an election,

00:09:24.080 because that's the only way to keep them out. By her own words, though, she said the Liberals

00:09:29.200 and the NDP haven't been terribly receptive to her overtures so far. I mean, she's largely

00:09:37.820 irrelevant, but when we get to the point of how tight elections can be, she does have a couple 1.00

00:09:43.140 of seats and her party does garner enough support in certain seats to potentially be a spoiler i

00:09:49.200 mean she's elizabeth may she's kind of getting lunier as time goes by but she still is a member 0.56

00:09:54.300 of parliament she still is leading a party with two seats in the house of commons and that's what

00:09:59.560 she's talking about so sing may and such cut a deal drag this election all the way out till 1.00

00:10:06.420 october i guess i'll be doing this show on fridays a lot longer we'll see uh i mean they will use

00:10:12.380 the tariff, you know, trade war going on as their justification.

00:10:16.920 They'll say it's an emergency.

00:10:18.100 They'll say it's so, so important that we can't afford to go to an election right now.

00:10:25.460 Of course, the liberals went to an election in the middle of COVID,

00:10:28.140 which was, again, an allegedly emergency.

00:10:31.700 So, again, I think it's the more unlikely scenario.

00:10:36.940 Even the liberals understand, Carney understands,

00:10:39.140 if you're going to be negotiating on something like tariffs, a trade war, talking with President

00:10:44.840 Trump, and you haven't even been elected, you're coming from a very, very weak position. You need

00:10:52.060 a mandate. You have to have faced the electorate and won your position, even in a minority role.

00:11:01.600 And so this government is due. I mean, people saying, well, it should be four years. Well,

00:11:04.520 I get looking at our system. We got a minority government, a credit, I guess, due for their 1.00

00:11:09.480 ability to cling to power. The average minority government in Canada only lasts 18 months.

00:11:15.820 So, uh, you know, we're, we're getting up to close to, it's going to be four years this fall.

00:11:20.500 Uh, Justin pulled it off. He hung in there well beyond the average for this, but people are ready.

00:11:25.240 They're due. That's what got Justin pushed out by his own party last December because they were

00:11:30.120 plummeting so low in the polls, Canadians were so sick and tired of Trudeau and the Liberals

00:11:36.040 that they said, that's it, get out. Plus, it's the internal pressure. You know, it's not external

00:11:42.000 polls that really move politicians as much as when you start getting the internal pressure. Of

00:11:46.180 course, Justin's own finance minister, Chrystia Freeland, you know, basically turned on him. But

00:11:51.940 you know, there were other members of Parliament because they were all looking at it and saying,

00:11:55.860 my lord, I'm going to lose my seat. They're looking out for their own interests, and if

00:12:01.900 eventually they realize that it's better to turn on the king than to sink on the ship with them,

00:12:06.500 they'll turn on him, and that's what started happening. There was probably a heck of a lot

00:12:09.580 of communication to Trudeau that we never heard, never saw, but it was starting to come from within

00:12:13.260 the party, which finally pushed him into his little tearful resignation, though it's been

00:12:17.700 such a long, agonizing goodbye. Ah, that's what led to it. Now, yeah, Freeland, another interesting

00:12:28.080 case. You look at some of these liberals too, Anita Anand, you know, that one is quite funny.

00:12:34.260 She, a while back, said, I've decided, you know, the usual stock line from a politician,

00:12:41.620 I'm going to step out of politics to spend more time with my family.

00:12:46.980 That's tiresome.

00:12:47.880 Can you guys not come up with something more original?

00:12:50.400 But the funny thing is, the liberals, and again, as I said, I'll go into the polls a little more later.

00:12:53.700 When the liberals started surging in the polls, suddenly Anita and Ann came up and said,

00:12:56.280 you know what?

00:12:57.240 I don't really like my family that much.

00:12:59.060 I'm going to run again.

00:13:00.420 So now she's back in again.

00:13:02.520 She's running again.

00:13:03.140 It shows just how crass and fickle and self-serving these liberal politicians are.

00:13:08.460 if if the liberals continue to sink in the polls don't worry she will bail out again

00:13:13.220 she doesn't care about canada she cares about herself and hey and that's not unique to just

00:13:20.700 liberal politicians we've got to be fair there there's many many self-serving politicians that's

00:13:25.160 hardly a new phenomena in the world now is it but we'll see so now the most likely scenario what i

00:13:32.660 think is going to happen i guess if i think it doesn't necessarily mean it's the most likely but

00:13:37.000 I suspect most people expect this is going to be the deal. Carney is going to have his coronation

00:13:42.340 on Sunday, March 9th. That'll give him 15 days before parliament sits again. And it was prorogued.

00:13:51.200 And people have got to understand that, you know, prorogation. So Trudeau shut down parliament so

00:13:57.220 the liberals can get their own crap in order. Again, getting back to being self-serving, right? 0.99

00:14:01.540 They want to do an avoidant election, so they shut down the business of everything so that they could select their new leader.

00:14:08.500 Canadians are left in the middle of a tariff crisis without a functioning parliament.

00:14:12.760 Well, that timeline runs out on March 24th.

00:14:17.180 The parliament has to sit at that point, unless somehow they could convince the governor general to extend it.

00:14:23.400 I don't see them extending the prorogation.

00:14:26.520 It would just be too much.

00:14:28.840 But again, the world's crazy.

00:14:29.820 I won't say anything's impossible anymore. Very unlikely. So Carney's looking at 15 days. The

00:14:36.160 first thing that happens after a prorogation seat, that ends everything in Parliament. Every bill that

00:14:41.520 was on, it died on the order paper. It's not going to go through. It's not going to be passed. It has

00:14:46.340 to be started all over again. First reading, second reading, it doesn't matter. If it didn't make it

00:14:51.220 the royal assent, it's done. So it's got to go back in again. So the first thing that happens

00:14:55.820 with a new parliament is you need a speech from the throne. Just giving kind of a backgrounder

00:15:00.600 on our parliamentary system, I guess. The speech from the throne is written by the prime minister's

00:15:08.660 office and given to the governor general to read. It's not a speech from the throne. It's a speech

00:15:14.380 written by a theoretical representative or read by a theoretical representative of the throne. But

00:15:20.020 they don't write it themselves. They're just a mouthpiece. Might as well get AI to read it,

00:15:23.540 to be honest, but whatever. I'm not big on the figurehead of governor generals. I think it's a

00:15:26.880 big, colossal waste of money and a slap in the face of democracy. But that's the way our system

00:15:33.000 goes. She is technically actually our head of state. And, you know, King Charles is her boss.

00:15:38.620 We are a constitutional monarchy. But that speech will be read. And it provides, and a lot of

00:15:46.300 elections have happened this way, that speech often is a kickoff for an election. They can

00:15:53.240 use that speech rather than actually opening parliament for a session to start having debate

00:15:58.120 and presenting bills and doing the business of government. They'll actually use it as a campaign

00:16:03.300 kickoff. So they'll talk about all the wonderful things in the speech from the throne that they're

00:16:08.220 going to do if given the mandate from Canadians. I mean, they won't say it that way in the speech,

00:16:13.280 but they'll put out all their campaign promises

00:16:15.100 in that speech from the throne

00:16:16.060 and as soon as it's done

00:16:18.080 the first act of the Prime Minister

00:16:21.120 who won't even have a seat

00:16:22.240 which is fair enough, we can't

00:16:24.600 it will be to go to the Governor General

00:16:27.160 then and ask her to dissolve 0.92

00:16:28.980 the Parliament so we can go to a general election

00:16:31.200 and

00:16:32.760 that's the most likely

00:16:35.140 thing that'll happen, that way they can kind of do it

00:16:37.040 on their

00:16:38.100 grounds

00:16:40.940 you know, on their turf. They can set the stage. They won't have to face the humiliation of having

00:16:46.160 lost a confidence vote. So they weren't forced into an election. And of course, they'll frame

00:16:51.320 it, you know, as every political communicator will, as it's just so important for Canadians

00:16:56.300 that we must go to an election now, right? So it's critical. We're doing it for you.

00:17:02.480 That's what's going to happen. The timeline will go out and sometime in early May or so,

00:17:09.020 will go to the polls, will actually vote. That's what I'll see happening. Now, if the other possible

00:17:15.800 scenario will happen, as the speech from the throne is followed by an automatic confidence vote. That

00:17:22.820 means the House will vote on whether or not they have confidence in the House. If they lose that

00:17:27.240 vote, an election is triggered immediately. So, again, if there's been no deal cut with Singh

00:17:34.060 to stretch out that confidence vote, because that's the only way they'll pass it,

00:17:36.900 then that's what's going to do it. And that would be more humiliating to the liberals, right? Then

00:17:43.400 you've been kicked out and forced into an election rather than having chosen the election yourself.

00:17:48.420 So there's what I think is going to happen. And we're going to go to an election

00:17:54.880 at that point and see what happens. We're certainly due for one. And it's going to be

00:18:02.700 hard to pay attention to. So let's look at where we are sitting today in Canada with the seats.

00:18:08.960 That's where we left off at the end of the last election anyways. And that's, you know,

00:18:14.940 from back in 2019. It's been that long, I believe. No, 2021. I've got the wrong one up.

00:18:21.920 Okay, well, that's fine. That's 2019. I got to get a more up-to-date map for myself because,

00:18:31.240 yeah, it was a minority in a short term, but the bottom line is map does show the colors of how

00:18:34.380 Canada's laid out because it didn't change much between 2019, 2021. We're looking at that trend

00:18:39.860 of red in the East, dark blue in the middle, and kind of a mix on the West coast. And, uh,

00:18:49.660 it's a minority government that has been hanging in there and, uh, basically rejected by the West.

00:18:59.920 so the numbers from the last election i've got those you know the look at these things i mean

00:19:06.040 the conservatives uh came in i'm looking at with 34 percent of the vote 5.7 million votes

00:19:14.560 but they still came in behind the liberals when it came to seats with 5.6 million votes you get

00:19:19.720 less seats but the than the liberals but they got more votes you see that's canada's system again

00:19:24.560 it's about where your votes are concentrated, which is what's important. And the Liberals have

00:19:30.800 a more efficient vote going on. So the Conservatives, yeah, sure, they got some higher numbers, but

00:19:34.900 that's because those blue provinces you could see, Alberta and BC, are so solidly conservative,

00:19:39.480 it brings it up higher than it would be with the amount of seats it would get. So despite that,

00:19:46.280 they're going to do really well in Ontario and Quebec, as they always do. And the election's

00:19:51.920 there. We've got the Maritimes. Again, solidly, solidly. Liberal, typically. You know, PEI,

00:19:58.420 Newfoundland, the rest, they are dominated by liberal seats. A couple of specklings of

00:20:03.660 conservatives in there. Quebec is an interesting province. How you get the Blockebec law. I mean,

00:20:09.040 they only get 8% or so nationally in support, kind of, but they garner the most of the seats

00:20:14.260 in Quebec because they're concentrated there. So it's not really an accurate measure to say

00:20:19.360 how they're doing across the country, but they really do impact the politics and everything,

00:20:22.940 don't they? Speaking of a party that punches above its weight. And then way down at the bottom,

00:20:27.220 we've got Bloc Quebecois. You know, we've got them, we've got the Green Party, of course,

00:20:33.620 Elizabeth May. We're getting down to 3% support levels, but again, concentrate in a couple of

00:20:37.280 areas. You know, Elizabeth May with her seat in Salt Spring Island. There's a couple of Ontario 0.95

00:20:40.620 ridings that are closed. Mostly it's a BC thing. And then you've got the People's Party. You've got

00:20:45.900 But I've seen Bernier.

00:20:51.480 So they're sitting at the bottom, not even close to contention for a seat anywhere.

00:20:57.640 At best, again, they could be a spoiler in a few spots.

00:21:03.260 So where are they going to come from?

00:21:04.220 I'll break down the leaders and the challenges, what they've got going on.

00:21:07.820 I'll start with Carney.

00:21:10.500 He's going to be the presumptive prime minister going into this.

00:21:14.100 and mark carney isn't really that known a quantity in canada to political weenies like me

00:21:20.800 and the rest of you out there i'm sure and the rest he's uh familiar to us he's been the governor

00:21:27.480 of the bank of canada he was the governor of the bank of england but uh most people in general

00:21:32.320 they've seen his name in the news a couple of times never never really paid much attention to

00:21:36.380 that guy but he's been well immersed politically just not in the electoral realm i mean he was

00:21:41.840 the head of the Bank of Canada under Stephen Harper. He's not always just liberal, but he's

00:21:48.000 definitely been very closely tied to the Trudeau government. He's been a consultant for Justin

00:21:52.820 Trudeau for quite some time. They've been tied at the hip. It was no shock that this was handed

00:21:57.720 off, basically, to him. I just think that Justin probably thought he was going to wait a bit longer

00:22:02.960 for it. Now, a couple of handicaps Carney has in that sense is, I mean, in some ways,

00:22:09.000 not being known helps. If you're very heavily tied to a liberal government that people were

00:22:13.780 clearly tired out with, you're just going to end up wearing that going in. So every other person

00:22:20.180 is running that liberal leadership race. The second place contender is Chrystia Freeland,

00:22:24.100 who was basically Trudeau's second in command for a long time. Tweak. Very strange, strange lady. 1.00

00:22:30.240 She's smart enough compared to many of Trudeau's cabinet members, but

00:22:33.680 not really a contender for prime minister at this time. She though was, even though she broke away

00:22:41.260 from Trudeau at the very end, if she became prime minister, she would be the next Kim Campbell

00:22:45.560 because she just would, it's just another incarnation of the same thing that everybody

00:22:50.640 was tired of and wanted to get rid of. I mean, they haven't really learned to despise her as 0.51

00:22:54.820 much as everybody's gotten sick of Justin, but they would quickly enough because how could she

00:22:58.380 claim she's going to be any different? She was side by side with Trudeau the whole time. But

00:23:02.100 that's part of the challenges that the Liberals have. They've got to campaign against themselves.

00:23:07.780 And the carbon tax, that's the big legacy policy. That's the big one that Justin just would not

00:23:14.520 back down on under any circumstance. That was his legacy policy. It's clearly dead. People

00:23:20.820 despise it. It's terrible. It hasn't changed the climate. It isn't revenue neutral. And,

00:23:27.360 you know, the big killer for it was when Justin Trudeau carved out an exception for

00:23:31.840 the carbon tax for maritime provinces to try and help his support out there. If it's so important

00:23:36.580 that we're saving the world with this tax, how could you possibly just carve out a chunk because

00:23:42.920 it's now more electorally expedient for yourself? You should. It's hypocrisy. And that was the end

00:23:49.680 of that tax. It's still with us, but they cannot campaign on having it. So basically they've all

00:23:54.780 turned around and said, we're going to get rid of it. But Carney isn't quite going to get rid of it.

00:23:59.700 He's going to rebrand it.

00:24:01.480 These guys haven't given up on it.

00:24:02.660 They're just going to slap a fresh coat of paint on it.

00:24:04.900 He's saying, you know, we'll just put it on the heavy polluters industry.

00:24:07.120 Industry right now that's reeling under the tariffs with Mark Carney.

00:24:13.420 Well, the bottom line is, in the end, it always hits the consumer.

00:24:17.040 You still pay the bill in the end.

00:24:19.600 Companies are just companies.

00:24:21.880 What are they going to do when the carbon tax gets slapped on all their inputs and things like that?

00:24:25.300 They raise prices.

00:24:27.080 And you can't get away from buying things.

00:24:28.500 So you're still going to pay it.

00:24:31.800 That's all you're going to get from Carney.

00:24:33.700 But he can still, he's never been elected in the spot.

00:24:36.240 He can try to play that to his advantage to a degree because, again, not being known, he's not necessarily associated directly with the liberal brand.

00:24:43.860 So he's going to have to straddle the razor in a way to show himself as a loyal liberal leader, yet not part of the liberals that were there.

00:24:53.080 I don't think he's going to pull it off well.

00:24:56.300 We'll talk a little bit about that when Sean and Jen come in here, because I don't think they think he's very strong.

00:25:07.660 If you've got a strong candidate in election, you put them in front of everybody as much as possible.

00:25:15.020 You want them to win the love of the voters.

00:25:16.880 You want them to inspire people.

00:25:19.200 They hide him from people.

00:25:20.800 He does very, very few long-form interviews, often on American TV.

00:25:27.220 Look, you can get away with that during a liberal love-in and leadership race.

00:25:30.820 But in a general election, you've got to get out there and speak to people.

00:25:34.220 Why are you guys afraid to put them out there with them then?

00:25:38.580 That's not a good sign.

00:25:40.540 It's really not a good sign.

00:25:42.160 I'm sure they're training the heck out of him right now.

00:25:44.280 The other handicap he has, and that's a reality in Canada, 1.00

00:25:47.460 And that was found in the liberal, and it's funny, the legacy media.

00:25:50.560 I'll talk about that a little more later, too. 0.76

00:25:53.000 But during the debates, his French stinks.

00:25:58.000 And I'll tell you, Carney's French is better than mine.

00:26:01.040 Grant that.

00:26:02.480 But mine, that's because mine's virtually non-existent.

00:26:05.240 My Spanish is better than my French.

00:26:06.620 My Yiddish is better than my French.

00:26:08.660 But Carney is still, if you're going to be prime minister,

00:26:14.600 Quebecers will not support somebody who does not speak French well to them.

00:26:19.260 And he showed that in the debate.

00:26:22.300 So I'm certain that every spare moment they've got right now, they're trying to up his training on French.

00:26:26.540 One of the problems he had in the debate was he didn't understand the question.

00:26:29.260 It's one thing to be able to speak slowly and get your rehearsed answers out in French.

00:26:32.520 It's another if you can't understand the questions that are coming in.

00:26:36.880 Quebec wants you to speak French at them.

00:26:39.500 So let's get on to the next person, Pierre Polyev.

00:26:41.660 now english is certainly his first language and his name is very french so Pierre Polyev

00:26:47.360 but he was uh raised in Calgary he's really got that nice broad appeal in a sense he came from

00:26:52.180 the west now he's in the east he's been in parliament a long time he's fluent in French

00:26:57.140 um I don't know how heavily accented it is but he's most he's absolutely comfortable with it

00:27:02.120 so that's not a handicap for him uh one of the handicaps you know I'll try for Polyev 1.00

00:27:08.220 is he's a career politician.

00:27:11.360 He's been there for a long, long time.

00:27:13.500 It's kind of a good and a bad.

00:27:14.640 He's very experienced in the House of Commons,

00:27:16.780 a very experienced legislator.

00:27:19.360 But at the same time,

00:27:20.660 you're going to wear a lot of things, right?

00:27:22.200 People, you know, they shoot at him.

00:27:24.360 They say you've never held a regular job.

00:27:26.780 You haven't been out in the world.

00:27:28.680 Though, I mean, you know,

00:27:29.460 we shoot at Trudeau for similar things

00:27:31.020 and things like that.

00:27:32.580 He also was there for a number of items

00:27:35.700 when he was in Harper's government in the past.

00:27:38.740 The other thing was Polyev is losing that carbon tax issue,

00:27:42.000 even though, as I said, Carney is rebranding it

00:27:45.460 because it's become so wildly unpopular.

00:27:48.820 But Polyev has been using it as a hammer for a long time

00:27:54.680 to beat on the liberals.

00:27:57.160 It's been very effective.

00:27:58.220 Now that's gone.

00:27:59.380 He has to pivot.

00:28:00.340 He has to change.

00:28:01.640 And the liberals have found somewhere where he's weak.

00:28:04.520 They found an Achilles heel for him because they're associating him with Trump.

00:28:10.380 Now, Polioff hasn't really been that close with Trump.

00:28:12.840 He never has been a MAGA type of conservative, but still some supporters of the party show up with the MAGA hats and things like that.

00:28:19.520 And right now, Trump is so universally loathed in Canada.

00:28:22.620 And I know there's some many Trump supporters who watch my show, but let's face it.

00:28:26.380 The majority of Canadians are not impressed with Donald Trump right now.

00:28:30.960 so uh polyev has to distance himself from that and the liberals are trying their hardest to

00:28:37.500 their campaign ad the other day and it showed polyev right next to trump they put the face

00:28:42.120 there they put the face there they took similar quotes and wrapped them together terribly unfair

00:28:45.460 but it's effective it works and uh he's gonna have to be careful he's gonna have to distinguish

00:28:50.380 himself from the liberals still keep the conservative base happy and uh managed to

00:28:57.540 you know, cause that wedge to get in there and make Canadian support. One of the issues with

00:29:02.420 Polly Evans seems his likability. A lot of people, he just grates on them. It's just the reality.

00:29:06.780 Politics is a popularity contest. Make no, you know, have no doubt about that. So I don't find

00:29:14.380 him as annoying as others do apparently, but that's me. I'm biased. I've got my thing where

00:29:17.520 you got to look at the voters. So he's got to get solid on a lot of those things. And we got down

00:29:22.580 nonetheless, as I said, Jagmeet Singh. And he is in terrible, terrible trouble. His party is just

00:29:30.120 sunk in the polls. They have no money to go to the election. The Liberals pulled hard left under

00:29:36.180 Justin Trudeau. So basically they ate Jagmeet's lunch. So they have difficulty distinguishing

00:29:40.500 themselves from Justin. And they're going into this, you know, in a lot of trouble. They're

00:29:48.140 going to lose what few seats they have. It's going to be an ugly, ugly election for Singh. You can

00:29:53.140 see why he's not eager to get into it any faster than he has to. It'll be interesting to watch him

00:29:58.240 try to even garner some attention in this thing. Go farther down, we got Blanchet. He's the one

00:30:03.140 going into this election the happiest. He really is. He's strong. He's popular in Quebec. He's

00:30:07.780 smart. He's been strong in the debates. He's not going to win the general election. He doesn't

00:30:15.420 care. He doesn't have to campaign to the whole country. He just campaigns to Quebec. So he's

00:30:23.200 going to continue to do what he does. He's unapologetic with saying, all I want to do is

00:30:26.900 stand up for Quebec. And he will do what he does in there. So I mean, among any of them, anyways,

00:30:33.760 if somebody's eager for this election, Blanchett is the one. Now, getting farther down the lane,

00:30:39.260 we go elizabeth may i mean seriously she's unhinged it really takes it really shows how

00:30:49.080 ideologically bent you have to be to support her as a member of the house of commons she was the

00:30:56.640 green leader and then she resigned then they had a leadership race but they made a mistake they

00:31:03.720 elected a jew yeah that's really what happened that's what got the greens so upset that basically 0.99

00:31:09.980 internal turmoil kicked out their own leader right after the last election because they were fighting

00:31:15.160 over having a jewish leader they didn't like that that's what the palestinians think how could we

00:31:19.300 possibly do this what an error and then elizabeth came and assumed the leadership again just a 1.00

00:31:24.120 bizarre bizarre party yet there's still enough kooks out there to vote green to give her a seat 1.00

00:31:28.500 and and one other person she's gonna be there she's gonna be annoying through the debate i 1.00

00:31:32.740 guess good for comic relief uh but she's not a contender for anything i guess at best she can 0.99

00:31:38.520 hold on to her two seats she would hope and uh she just gets more bizarre as time goes though

00:31:44.200 so uh you know i and people like to make fun of her i do now and then poke at it you know for her

00:31:48.860 her drunken performance at a press gallery uh function one time where she just went off the 0.92

00:31:53.680 rails and uh a conservative mp i think it was a rate kind of escorted her away from the microphone

00:31:59.760 own. But to be fair, hey, I'm a recovered alcoholic. I've done some stupid things at times

00:32:03.000 when I was pissed. You know, she had her moment and it was embarrassing. I hope she doesn't have 1.00

00:32:10.920 a chronic drinking problem. I don't wish that on anybody, but she is chronically nuts and that 1.00

00:32:15.680 won't change. So we'll see that going through this. And finally, in the bottom, we got Bernier 0.96

00:32:20.140 Maxime. And it's just the People's Party of Canada has just been in decline for years and years.

00:32:29.180 I think he would have been interesting maybe if he'd have won the conservative leadership years ago.

00:32:33.960 And he's just never been able to establish himself, turn it into something, and become a contender in these sorts of races anymore.

00:32:43.940 He's now, I guess, trying to corner his spot by being pro-Trump in some ways, very anti-immigration.

00:32:55.240 He's really catering to the far end of the right, fair enough.

00:32:57.640 it's your niche but again when i'm talking about seat efficiency uh he doesn't have any so he

00:33:05.240 doesn't have a support concentrated anywhere strongly enough that he's going to come out

00:33:10.460 of this with a seat they're already complaining a lot that they aren't in the debate but uh

00:33:17.160 to be fair and again is bernier's been on the show a couple of times i like him he's smart

00:33:22.020 but i mean you can only have so many people in a debate and kind of drawing one of the lines is

00:33:27.440 is having a seat or at least a viability for one and he's he's just not in contention for it

00:33:32.960 so he's not going to be in the debates and to be honest i don't think he should be at this point

00:33:38.560 you know build up that support get to that point that's fine but in the meantime you know he's just

00:33:46.040 not a contender he's going to be there in the election let's see what happens i mean if they

00:33:50.680 do similar stuff like some of his crazy supporters did you know throwing pebbles at the prime minister

00:33:54.360 and things like that, Bernier might get it down to 1%. We'll see. But that's kind of the breakdown

00:33:58.760 of where the leaders are sitting right now. Anyways, and things can change over a campaign.

00:34:02.460 Now, I want to turn to a couple of our reporters said earlier, they were at an event recently.

00:34:09.440 It was a Mark Carney event. And, uh, you know, speaking of the debates, for example, I mean,

00:34:14.500 that that's organized typically by media and so on, who's going to be in, who's not,

00:34:18.780 they ask the questions, they do the other aspects of it. Our legacy media didn't speak up much when

00:34:26.460 Mark Carney turned away some Western Standard reporters from an event. As I said, you can hide

00:34:33.640 from the press during curated leadership type events and things like that, but it's difficult

00:34:40.820 to hide from them in a general election. You're going to have to get out, you're going to have to

00:34:44.420 talk to them. We're going to be there. We're going to be asking questions. You can't shut us out of

00:34:49.540 everything. So let's get to it. We got Jen Hodgson and Sean Polzer in the studio. They were at the

00:34:55.440 Kearney event a few days ago. Welcome to my show. I won't shut you out. You always get a chance to

00:35:02.600 come in here and babble at me or ask questions, but I'm not the one to question. What happened?

00:35:07.660 I mean, you know, we saw the videos. They sent a letter to the Standard, like a press release or

00:35:14.140 something like that? Well, they sent it, uh, to, uh, Derek, our BC Bureau, uh, chief out in, uh,

00:35:20.980 Jared. Jared. Yeah. Didn't I say Jared? Nice. In beautiful Vancouver. Yeah. Yeah. Cronian hang

00:35:26.420 up on the boss over there. Oh, did I say Derek? Yeah. Oh my, that's okay. Um, yeah, you're right.

00:35:32.700 No, they, um, they sent a letter to him, uh, essentially basically asking him to RSVP. Yeah.

00:35:39.300 So we did. And obviously he's in Vancouver, so it was left to us to show up to, what should we call it, Versailles North?

00:35:51.520 Yeah, that banquet hall. It's interesting. I've seen the outside of it.

00:35:55.780 It looks like an ordinary strip mall.

00:35:58.300 Well, Sean and I were looking at the, because we were allowed into the lobbies.

00:36:01.800 yeah it was more like a foyer and i put it looks like versailles and shot pointed out the peeling

00:36:08.980 paint and this siding coming off of the wall and so you know it's not quite just the illusion yeah

00:36:15.940 so i mean just to give people in those northeast calgary and and it's a banquet hall it's a thing

00:36:20.180 with the indian community up there they hold huge functions often weddings gatherings and so on they

00:36:25.580 have those massive banquet halls that i i love the indian community but boy they love the gaudi

00:36:30.900 And George Chahal is Calgary's one and only Liberal member of Parliament.

00:36:39.240 So he hosted Kearney at this hall.

00:36:43.280 He did, though that didn't help us any, even though you know Chahal himself and even asked about George.

00:36:49.920 And we were just turned down.

00:36:52.220 So when we first arrived, it was a very young staffer.

00:36:55.460 She was only about 20.

00:36:56.400 She was telling Sean that in the last election, she wasn't even old enough to vote.

00:37:01.160 So that was in 21.

00:37:03.220 And, you know, she tried her best to be helpful.

00:37:06.760 And she reached out to her superiors to see if we could, in fact, go in.

00:37:12.920 And so another woman ended up coming. 1.00

00:37:15.240 And Sean spoke with her.

00:37:16.680 And I was videotaping.

00:37:18.260 But she got out of there pretty quick.

00:37:20.000 It's like anybody that was in charge of anything there didn't really want to talk to us at all.

00:37:24.380 So, you know, we were kind of left.

00:37:27.000 But it seemed like she was going to let us in, the second woman.

00:37:31.180 It's almost like somebody overruled her.

00:37:32.900 It was like somebody overruled her because Sean was telling her that he's covered the prime minister before at these events and that, you know, we have the invitation letter and we showed them.

00:37:44.780 She was the one who sent it to Jared because she was from the West.

00:37:49.620 So the very same staffer that invited us.

00:37:54.380 She walked away with the invitation letter that she had sent, and then they disappeared for like 25 minutes.

00:38:01.700 All of the legacy media journalists were allowed into the neighborhood.

00:38:06.540 They were all walking by us, and then these three big dudes in turbans come in and say,

00:38:10.740 Security, time to leave.

00:38:13.320 I mean, it sounds like it was an oversight in their part. 0.96

00:38:15.600 I mean, if they'd been better organized, they never would have sent out the invitation to the standard and avoided this, which is still pathetic.

00:38:23.560 Well, I think the invitation probably came from the Kearney people, and then, like you said, the actual function was being organized by the people on the ground, which included Chahal, and then who's the other fellow that was Jody Gondack's campaign manager that she fired? 0.55

00:38:38.480 Oh, Stephen the Weasel.

00:38:39.340 Stephen, yeah, and apparently he doesn't like us very much.

00:38:41.560 Stephen the Weasel Carter, I don't know why he doesn't like me.

00:38:43.500 Weasel.

00:38:44.340 I don't know why he doesn't like me, I don't even know.

00:38:46.640 Dave Naylor likes pulling up.

00:38:48.280 The only reason he doesn't like Dave.

00:38:49.380 Yeah, that cover from The Star's Son.

00:38:52.760 Yeah.

00:38:52.920 Just to show that Stephen's in good company and with the porch pirate Shahal, it was chief of stiff and it shows Carter, because multiple times Stephen Carter, just so folks know, he's a political strategist who latches on to some very senior political people, at least gave him more money in severance pay because he gets fired and he gets beautiful severance packages than most people make working for a living. 0.84

00:39:16.520 And he doesn't discriminate.

00:39:17.820 He's got conservative NDP and now Leo. 0.98

00:39:20.500 he is a true political whore he will wherever this is something else to let people know this 0.97

00:39:25.260 one doesn't run on tv i could be a little more unhinged uh than i am on other ones but i mean 0.97

00:39:31.260 i just yes steven brings a visceral reaction out of me because i didn't realize he was there but

00:39:36.520 that would tell me right off where the sticking point came on letting uh us into that event then

00:39:42.060 but it also shows that steven didn't come out tell you he sends a young volunteer well she was at the

00:39:47.560 door he actually sent three burly security while they were waiting for us because her hand was 1.00

00:39:54.700 shaking while we were telling her and she knew she knew what was going on yeah you know then

00:39:59.460 they probably warned her and they probably said oh these people are bad and you know unfair to 0.77

00:40:03.880 volunteers you know it's just cowardly i mean get out there and just and even the rebels sent their

00:40:09.300 smallest reporter i mean it's only about five foot tall she didn't look very they used to have 1.00

00:40:15.040 Adam, you know, Adam could come in and kind of, uh, that might be a different story.

00:40:19.460 Or Bex, I guess.

00:40:21.120 I mean, just to, you know, we had a friendly competition with rebel, not a big thing, but

00:40:26.400 they tend to like using events like that to kind of go bananas if they get kicked out.

00:40:31.300 You know, the men's always loves to make a scene and get wrestled out of the place or 1.00

00:40:35.520 whatever you guys had.

00:40:37.360 Yeah.

00:40:37.500 We tried to be constrained and polite and patient.

00:40:40.300 I mean, they did just have us milling around in this foyer while the other journalists

00:40:44.360 could just waltz right into the other room and so they waited until the foyer area was completely

00:40:49.760 cleared before they send right those three security guards and they were expecting a scene

00:40:54.380 and i told and i told jen this is what they were going to do and then i said you notice that

00:40:58.880 undercover cop you know to the right she goes what what had to cover and it's from for me

00:41:06.220 distinguishing them between security guards they're in plain clothes they have the wire in

00:41:10.000 here but sean said no that is clearly and he's armed he's got a gun and he's pointing to the

00:41:15.580 door and it's like okay okay i don't fall from having heard that there is a political leader

00:41:19.600 at a function who's probably going to be prime minister a little while you never know what kind

00:41:22.580 of bar might show up you should probably have i suppose a member of the police there but i mean

00:41:26.260 you guys weren't out to uh and and we were bugging the rebel uh reporters like gee you get arrested

00:41:31.000 like four times a week you know why aren't you up they got a card to put up if arrested here's my

00:41:36.980 lawyer. He's standing behind a 20-year-old, you know, intern in a plaid shirt and a rugby jersey,

00:41:43.480 and we're standing behind the rebel reporter here. I mean, as I was saying earlier, it doesn't bode

00:41:48.820 well for Carney, though, right? That doesn't show a strong, confident leader. I mean, you've got to

00:41:55.740 deal with media members you don't like. Absolutely. And so, well, even Trudeau, I mean, like, I get

00:42:01.240 along with his press people, and I had a similar kind of situation where he was at SAID, you know,

00:42:06.520 they didn't tell us where he was and we got tipped off you know because dave knows there's

00:42:10.880 everybody in town so you know i showed up and i walked in behind rick bell you know who slipped

00:42:16.060 and fell on the pavement we helped up and hauled in you know but then you know i introduced myself

00:42:21.660 to trudeau's press people and they were really nice they made me up a badge and they let me in

00:42:26.160 and i had to go through the you know uh when you go see the prime minister you get quarantined

00:42:30.120 because he's got dogs on the swat team yeah and everybody but you know it wasn't a big deal and

00:42:34.420 And Trudeau answers questions, you know.

00:42:36.520 Maybe he doesn't like the questions.

00:42:37.700 And maybe he doesn't like you as a reporter.

00:42:40.240 For them directly, he'll offer some word salad, but...

00:42:43.240 Well, and he knows Rick personally, it seems.

00:42:46.560 Well, I mean, if you want to get the conference over with,

00:42:48.780 you just let Rick do his preambles and, you know,

00:42:51.120 there's only going to be two questions.

00:42:52.420 But, you know, Rick asks tough questions.

00:42:54.320 He'll be, ah, he doesn't...

00:42:55.100 Once he gets to the question, he's not a Trudeau fan.

00:42:56.880 No, no, no.

00:42:57.860 He's already no bones about that.

00:42:59.040 You know, but...

00:42:59.680 But so you kind of have to admire Justin a little bit for that, at least.

00:43:03.500 Yeah.

00:43:03.660 I mean, relationships with media have changed, you know, from how they were in the past.

00:43:09.000 If you look, and it's conservatives aren't necessarily a lot better.

00:43:12.040 I mean, a lot of us loved watching Carney, or not Carney, Polly Munching an Apple while getting loaded questions from another reporter.

00:43:19.820 But at the same time, doing something like that would have been unimaginable 15 years ago, no matter who you were and how unfair the reporter might have been.

00:43:25.620 True.

00:43:26.320 And you get Trump, he's kicking other media outlets out from the White House press office.

00:43:31.180 it's and carney's inside complaining about trump but yet he's doing the exact same thing yeah it's

00:43:36.180 not a good trend all around really i mean you know from all of the the i guess maybe it's a sign the

00:43:41.200 media is getting a little more biased too uh but it's well it doesn't work you know uh rachel

00:43:45.460 notley did the same thing in the election you know barred us and and went to like absolute

00:43:50.520 ridiculous lengths like you know they were intimidating jonathan bradley you know you

00:43:55.900 know mighty motion right but the nice thing is jonathan never gave up though he was so it's 0.98

00:44:01.240 yeah but yeah so but i mean it just makes you look like i don't know how to get to assholes 0.86

00:44:08.600 outwardly yeah and like what is he afraid of so it's going to be the what the content of our

00:44:13.840 questions well it's it and we're uh certainly a conservative leaning outlet uh editorially but i

00:44:20.260 mean there's nothing wrong with that news is the news yeah but i mean every outlet has you know

00:44:25.580 the red star is his death.

00:44:27.260 Well, we have a pretty diverse opinion.

00:44:28.840 And even in this newsroom, I would say at the, we all have, you know,

00:44:32.160 we definitely have a conservative, uh, you know, outlook propensity, but it's

00:44:35.720 not, you know, but there's kind of a spectrum I tell, uh, I tell these guys,

00:44:40.180 it's kind of like autism, you know, there's this spectrum of, of where we

00:44:44.900 land on it, uh, but yeah, it's just, I mean, so you're gearing up though.

00:44:50.900 We got an election campaign and we're pretty sure coming probably within a

00:44:54.360 couple of weeks or a few weeks i mean he can you know other parties can keep us out of their events

00:45:00.880 that can happen but if they're public press events they're not gonna be able to hide forever well i

00:45:05.880 don't know because i was thinking about that because it seems to me that they're probably

00:45:09.400 organized by the writing association so i'm kind of a local level and george to hall being

00:45:14.720 so what did bwassenet resign that means george is like the only liberal no he's still in there

00:45:20.760 Because I said he's going to run again.

00:45:22.380 Oh, is he?

00:45:22.900 Yeah, both the Randys.

00:45:23.680 Oh, okay.

00:45:24.380 Yeah.

00:45:25.520 Or all three of them, or however many.

00:45:27.080 Yeah, no, he got out of cabinet, but I don't know.

00:45:29.740 He even said he's running again.

00:45:31.080 I haven't.

00:45:31.560 Just for folks who haven't followed that, Randy Bross is a member of parliament at Edmonton, a liberal.

00:45:37.500 From Warrenville.

00:45:38.300 Very scandalous with a number of things.

00:45:41.560 It sounds like he'd be fake being of indigenous heritage. 0.96

00:45:44.540 A lot of conflict of interest type of things happening with this company.

00:45:48.660 and then bizarre excuses, claiming it was another Randy, not me.

00:45:52.320 And everybody mocks him roundly.

00:45:53.860 Yet at the same time, he said he's running again,

00:45:56.220 which shows that there's probably not a big line of people

00:45:57.880 who want to make that go for him.

00:45:58.880 And how short of a memory that the public can have too.

00:46:02.080 Well, we'll see at the polls.

00:46:03.080 Yeah.

00:46:03.600 That's so.

00:46:05.040 And George Chahal, who, yeah, so, you know,

00:46:07.340 since Carter's around, it'll be even harder on him.

00:46:09.140 But there's truth to it.

00:46:09.840 I mean, the last federal election, his little claim to fame was

00:46:12.720 he was caught on a doorbell camera stealing conservative flyers

00:46:16.040 from a mailbox so he's called the porch pirate uh that was again humiliating i mean normally a

00:46:24.300 liberal member of parliament in alberta will get an automatic cabinet seat because they just need

00:46:27.960 to try and get regional balance shahal never got a seat because and randy did yeah because he was

00:46:32.800 just too immersed well george was also the soccer coach of my partner's kid right so we were at an

00:46:40.340 event a few weeks back at state and you know george happy to be there and he walked up to

00:46:45.180 Elena and said, hi, and you know, and Ellen introduced me and I was wearing my Western

00:46:48.720 standard jacket, you know, but you know, we sure can.

00:46:52.380 Well, sure.

00:46:52.800 He's been around a while.

00:46:53.540 He was a city councillor.

00:46:54.840 He was already for one or two terms, I think.

00:46:57.940 And, uh, you know, it's not an unknown quantity.

00:47:00.740 So the other day, you know, I kind of saw him in the back.

00:47:02.620 I was like, hey, George, hey, George, you know, right.

00:47:04.720 But it was like, well, blind, you don't know.

00:47:06.600 Not in that context.

00:47:07.700 Yeah, you know who your real friends are if they walk right past you on the sidewalk,

00:47:11.820 right?

00:47:12.200 Yeah.

00:47:12.480 Well, we'll see how things unfold as the election gets rolling, though.

00:47:15.440 I mean, again, you guys are from the reporting area.

00:47:17.440 I mean, if it's me showing up, okay, of course he's a prick and he's going to ask something provocative or unfair and try to catch me or something.

00:47:24.920 I don't know if I'd necessarily do that.

00:47:25.940 I don't go to those things.

00:47:27.220 That's not my rule for those kinds of reasons.

00:47:30.940 I'm an opinion guy.

00:47:32.400 He stays at home at night.

00:47:33.820 No.

00:47:35.600 I don't have my broad set of light either.

00:47:38.340 It is true what you say.

00:47:39.480 we're not going to try and make a sublime,

00:47:41.260 he was outrageous, right?

00:47:43.000 We just want to report and also pose those questions

00:47:45.380 that would be important to a conservative audience.

00:47:48.100 So if he were to become the next prime minister,

00:47:50.560 he'd be governing over conservatives and liberals alike.

00:47:53.640 We're all Canadians.

00:47:55.300 So to accept questions from all sides of the spectrum.

00:47:59.120 Well, and I think the reason Derek sent me

00:48:01.800 is because I'm not a guy that gets into these kind of,

00:48:05.120 you know, petty little partisan scraps with people.

00:48:07.500 you know i write about oil and gas this is like sports right but you know even in sports so at

00:48:13.440 the herald uh we had hockey players on the flames that just refused to deal with certain reporters

00:48:17.480 right so you just send a different reporter that's all yeah you know in this case i guess

00:48:22.380 you know you can't they couldn't really ban the outlet you know what i mean doesn't do them really

00:48:28.300 any favors i mean if anything it makes us even crabbier at them guys like me they get no more

00:48:33.380 likely to be mean in my uh editorials and commentary that i well and some of these hockey

00:48:37.500 players they get run right out of town like if they don't get along with people you know what

00:48:40.760 i mean well it's half the game they're getting traded yeah and hockey believe it or not it's

00:48:44.940 sports but you still you have to get along you gotta keep their fans happy i mean they pay your

00:48:48.920 bills and out here the electorate they vote i mean there could be swing voters because i was

00:48:53.320 saying earlier polyev you know tends to be popular in alberta but he doesn't endear himself to

00:48:58.300 Everybody, there could be swing voters who read the standard and say, you know, I, I might, I mean, you might be a minority, but you need every vote you can get.

00:49:05.900 Sure.

00:49:06.280 And as reporters, I mean, we're supposed to be objective, but we're still allowed to vote.

00:49:10.140 You know, I'm a citizen, you know, I'm a reporter, but I'm also a citizen.

00:49:13.420 So, you know, and I have an opinion, like, you know, maybe I can't always say exactly what I think about people.

00:49:20.060 Between the lines.

00:49:21.020 I hold back a lot myself, actually.

00:49:22.660 Well, often these politicians speak for themselves too, with their words and actions.

00:49:25.860 We don't really have to put too much commentary in our articles to really just show what's going on.

00:49:30.680 I was holding back in my column.

00:49:33.820 I was trying to mince it and be a little diplomatic, but there was kind of an uncharacteristic area.

00:49:40.280 It speaks for itself, though.

00:49:41.620 Righteous rage.

00:49:43.140 Remember that guy.

00:49:44.260 I mean, it's an interesting kickoff for things anyways.

00:49:46.760 We know they're going to be doing the circuit over the course of the campaign.

00:49:51.180 And, you know, we're going to have Carney here in campaign mode in Calgary at least probably once.

00:49:55.440 Well, he claims he's from Edmonton.

00:49:57.620 I mean, you know what?

00:49:58.340 He would have went to school in Edmonton about the same time I did.

00:50:01.220 And Fort Smith?

00:50:02.380 Fort Smith was below.

00:50:03.540 You know what?

00:50:05.140 There's no, I don't know how to put the couch system terms.

00:50:08.860 There's not a lot of white people that come from Fort Smith.

00:50:10.940 No.

00:50:11.360 And if you do, it's either in the Army or in the RCMP.

00:50:15.520 Do you know what I mean?

00:50:16.080 And then, of course, he went to school in Edmonton.

00:50:18.620 So he went to the University of Alberta.

00:50:20.060 He would have went to the U of A probably about the same time I did.

00:50:22.620 Yeah, Fort Smith.

00:50:23.680 Fort Smith, you have to fly in.

00:50:25.060 I don't even think there's a road out there.

00:50:27.160 It's a winter road.

00:50:27.820 It was summer.

00:50:28.460 Yeah.

00:50:28.580 It's summer you got to fly in.

00:50:30.680 You might've been there.

00:50:31.640 I haven't been here, but I've been an oil patch worker.

00:50:33.760 I've been in the neighborhood, yes.

00:50:35.860 Fort Tip.

00:50:36.760 Yeah.

00:50:37.120 There are those sorts of spots.

00:50:38.980 Yeah.

00:50:39.260 Well, they'll all claim to have been everywhere and claim to relate to everybody on everything.

00:50:42.680 That's true taste.

00:50:43.580 That's the usual thing.

00:50:45.060 You know, Paulio's going to come here and talk about how he was born in Calgary and he's going to speak in Ontario and he's going to talk about how he's been in Ontario for 20 years.

00:50:51.340 And he's got a perfect French.

00:50:53.340 Yeah.

00:50:53.680 You play the game.

00:50:54.340 Even though Palliev has three passports, you know, he's English, he's Irish, English and Irish, square that one, and Canadian.

00:51:03.660 Actually, I didn't know the Irish one.

00:51:05.300 Yeah, yeah, Ireland.

00:51:07.140 Well, they'll probably bring it up over the course.

00:51:08.860 Well, because Carney gets a lot of flack for holding three passports, but if Palliev has the same...

00:51:13.460 No, I'm talking about Carney, not Palliev.

00:51:16.240 That's why I was surprised, because he had Palliev, so that's why I was saying I didn't know he had a...

00:51:20.700 Yeah, right.

00:51:21.860 Okay.

00:51:23.040 Not enough.

00:51:24.340 And that's something that they do hit with Ignatie if they hit quite hard.

00:51:27.880 I mean, that was an effective campaign when he ran against Harper.

00:51:30.260 For people who don't remember, he was, you know, Ignatie was a smart guy and so on, a liberal candidate.

00:51:34.420 But he was in the States for most of his time as a, you know, an academic, came back to run.

00:51:40.540 What was his passport? Was it British?

00:51:42.720 I believe it was American.

00:51:43.800 Oh, it was American.

00:51:44.440 And it was always, you know, just visiting.

00:51:46.280 That was the thing they kept saying.

00:51:47.340 He's just visiting here to be.

00:51:48.580 And it was kind of true because once he lost, he's been gone.

00:51:50.720 This means Stéphane Dion, did he not have a European citizenship as well?

00:51:56.640 He might have, yeah.

00:51:58.020 But he was very Quebec entrenched, too.

00:52:00.100 Wow. 0.99

00:52:00.540 It's a foolish game. 0.99

00:52:02.080 But I mean, at the time when we were talking about patriotism so hard as we are right now. 0.99

00:52:05.600 Yeah, I can see Skyway using that knife.

00:52:07.220 You know, there's kind of an irony there, right?

00:52:09.260 Yeah.

00:52:09.840 You know, because we've gone from the tax, the carbon tax election to now, it's going to be the tariff election, right?

00:52:16.560 Yeah.

00:52:17.300 And, and everybody's going to be trying to outdo each other to say who's the most Canadian.

00:52:22.460 Yeah.

00:52:22.960 Well, interesting times for us.

00:52:25.400 I mean, you know, we, we thrive on this or I do anyways, makes the vein pulse in my head, but at the same time, I enjoy it.

00:52:32.000 Seeing the approach that all of the leaders have across the country, federal and provincial alike, you see this, we want to fight back.

00:52:38.560 We want to retaliate.

00:52:40.300 These are unjustified tariffs and yeah, fair enough. 0.51

00:52:43.660 but it's becoming this like rallying cry that we hear across the board.

00:52:48.000 And, uh, I was talking to Paul Yev's office yesterday asking them about this

00:52:53.060 because their rhetoric sounds actually really similar.

00:52:56.180 And, uh, they said that Paul Yev was the first one to come out with the

00:52:59.180 fighting back rhetoric.

00:53:01.100 So yeah, so we can go back and look at timelines.

00:53:05.380 And getting back to media, actually, you know, for part of it, I mean,

00:53:08.400 people were asking the other day with big responses to it and they said,

00:53:10.820 well, I never heard Paul Yev's response.

00:53:12.060 Somebody said he did do a long presser and conference, but CBC gave the whole thing to Trudeau and even Singh, in other words.

00:53:19.720 Just the other day, Polyev was giving a press conference, and you could see him talking, doing his press conference in the background of the CBC broadcast,

00:53:27.660 while CBC had some analyst come on talking about Premier Ford's announcement that he had made moments before that.

00:53:34.920 So they really don't prioritize Polyev and his party.

00:53:37.920 No, no, they don't.

00:53:39.360 And that's the only other thing before I let you go.

00:53:40.780 I mean, have you heard from any other media members that we had that independent press

00:53:44.420 gallery, you know, kind of condemn our being shunned from this, but, uh, most legacy media

00:53:48.760 probably hasn't said a peep about, uh, no legacy media, you know, often media used to

00:53:53.480 rally the horses.

00:53:54.740 I mean, you know, even if it was members they didn't like, I mean, they kind of, Hey, you

00:53:58.700 don't start pushing media members around cause we, we need our access, but yeah, no, nothing.

00:54:03.300 The rebel shared our videos around on social media, but nothing from legacy media.

00:54:07.860 Well, you know, I have to say that I was interested at some point in what Connie would have had to say, you know, because I do consider myself a thoughtful journalist, you know, I would have, I wouldn't have minded, you know.

00:54:19.020 It's not about asking trick questions or, you know, after Tuesday, I just kind of set to hell with it.

00:54:24.340 I wasn't even, I wasn't interested at all.

00:54:26.340 You know, I didn't tune in.

00:54:27.780 I didn't watch.

00:54:29.100 What little I watched of the debates was like about five minutes.

00:54:32.220 It was just totally unimpressed because it's just all canned.

00:54:35.380 Well, that was in the loins. There is no policy thing in there at all. So, I mean, I don't know that anybody really knows what he stands for.

00:54:43.800 No. Well, speaking of the debates, I mean, that was the liberal love. And it's going to be interesting with, even as much as the legacy media loves the liberals in many ways, the French debate. For the first time, I'm really going to watch that closely in the general election, just because I got a feeling Blanchett and Pauly Ever just going to beat Kearney like a red-headed stepson because his French is lead branch.

00:55:02.380 And they're going to speak fast, and they're going to speak because, you know, it's hard to understand.

00:55:06.580 Carnie's going to be scratching his head.

00:55:07.900 And when Carnie does attempt to speak French, he says something completely different than he does in English.

00:55:13.780 Put both sides of his mouth one French, one English.

00:55:15.880 I'm sure that every spare moment they got, they're just training him on that French because, boy, it's going to be a rough night.

00:55:22.400 Duolingo.

00:55:23.260 I've got the app.

00:55:24.280 It's pretty cool.

00:55:25.000 Maybe he'll call in sick.

00:55:27.960 Since the world's crazy enough, nothing surprises anymore.

00:55:30.760 All right.

00:55:31.160 Well, I'll let you get back to your desk, guys.

00:55:32.840 I really appreciate you.

00:55:33.780 You can probably see us in the back, yeah.

00:55:35.800 Yep, we're right there behind you.

00:55:37.040 It's a long commute to the studio here.

00:55:39.280 Our fingers up where we are.

00:55:41.840 I know there's more to write on, and we'll check in again, I'm sure, as the auction progresses.

00:55:46.500 Excellent.

00:55:47.020 Thanks, Craig.

00:55:47.480 Thanks, guys.

00:55:48.060 Thanks, Craig.

00:55:49.560 This is the time I like to remind everybody, too, the reason we've got these reporters going out there and beating on those closed doors and being shunned and turned away.

00:55:56.980 They still put out a lot of great content.

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00:56:27.300 It keeps us rolling, and again, we have to, you know, just express our appreciation for it.

00:56:33.460 We talk about the media.

00:56:34.680 This is one of my worries going into this election.

00:56:36.540 As I said, you know, we have a slant, in a sense, as a conservative outlet.

00:56:41.020 It doesn't mean we misrepresent, though, or do other things.

00:56:43.200 Every outlet has a bit of a leaning.

00:56:45.640 But the problem we've got right now is it's polarized in that we've got so much subsidized media going on out there.

00:56:51.820 We've got the CBC, of course, and one candidate, Polyev, talking about defunding him.

00:56:57.400 It's very much in their interest to keep the liberals in power.

00:57:01.980 And we've got other outlets that are reliant on a number of other subsidies to keep themselves going.

00:57:07.980 And by the same thing, they are very motivated not to have Polyev come in and win this election,

00:57:14.760 which is a dangerous place to be.

00:57:16.500 And it doesn't mean necessarily that the reporting will be bad.

00:57:19.840 But you look at it now in a different lens.

00:57:21.580 you're not sure anymore if they're being fair if they're being self-serving and it's a bad place

00:57:28.220 to be that's why independent is so important no matter what's left or right i mean even canada

00:57:32.840 land well i think they take some subsidies but i mean you know new media it's the future it's

00:57:37.840 where we got to be so again subscribe keep these things going so we can get out there and keep

00:57:43.840 holding them accountable all right i'm gonna turn to our news editor just to kind of run down the

00:57:47.900 week and the top issues and things like that he's the guy who really keeps things going sending

00:57:51.420 these guys out so they can get turned away at places by steven the weasel carter uh dave

00:57:55.920 naylor how do you do steven the weasel carter that brings back memories oh yes and stuff i'm

00:58:01.560 doing great cory how are you good good just getting into election mode you know and as i

00:58:06.040 said i'm enjoying this format where i can you know just get a little more uh relaxed congratulations

00:58:10.620 on the old new show yeah he has a title for it yeah ah it's this is cory morgan show second take

00:58:16.880 oh okay that's all right yeah that's all right did you screw up take one we'll see get the

00:58:23.680 feedback depends on who you ask yeah so yeah uh what do you say about the week every day's an

00:58:29.640 adventure right with uh trump and the tariffs is the was the big news uh all week and uh whether

00:58:36.560 or not he was going to take them off take put you know he's given mexico a month-long break

00:58:40.960 because he says he gets along with the mexican president and we all know he doesn't get along

00:58:45.980 with our Prime Minister, or the Governor, as he's referred to.

00:58:50.380 So tariffs has kept us busy, and the Liberal leadership.

00:58:56.180 Mark Carney in town, I know you had Jen and Sean probably talking about that

00:59:02.000 and how he refused to answer our questions and hid behind the skirt

00:59:05.820 of a 20-year-old student.

00:59:07.820 Had a lot of stuff about him basically lying,

00:59:11.180 uh fabricating stuff that he said like he helped paul martin uh balance the budget and stuff like

00:59:18.020 that that just were were not true uh he seems to have some kind of problem telling the truth

00:59:23.960 and uh there was an interesting story on um when he was the head of uh brookfield capital or

00:59:31.280 investments or whatever the heck it was they avoided when he was the chairman of it they

00:59:35.560 avoided billions and billions of dollars in tax that was owed to the Canadian government.

00:59:41.140 And Carney's company shifted it offshore, I think to Tonga or someplace like that.

00:59:48.200 And the NDP and NDPMP called it obscene.

00:59:53.020 That, you know, in just one year, they've avoided paying six and a half billion dollars

00:59:58.060 in taxes.

00:59:59.920 I mean, how many schools could that have built or nurses hired or stuff like that? 1.00

01:00:04.080 So it doesn't give a good example of a potential prime minister coming forward.

01:00:10.620 No, no.

01:00:11.920 I mean, it's interesting in that, you know, I mean, he's got a long resume.

01:00:16.040 He's a smart man.

01:00:17.380 But I think some of what's showing though, he's not a campaigner.

01:00:20.020 That's a different art form.

01:00:21.140 You know, you could speak at a press conference, but electoral politics is a different animal.

01:00:25.400 He's having to do some adjustments.

01:00:26.720 You got to watch what you say and think on your feet.

01:00:29.800 Absolutely.

01:00:30.160 I think, you know, Polly would just destroy him in an election debate, I think. 0.94

01:00:37.160 But I should say he's not a strong man, or he's not a dumb man, but he comes across as lacking energy. 0.92

01:00:43.540 He's a banker. 0.95

01:00:44.840 Yeah, he's a banker.

01:00:47.360 And now we're focused on the last days of the Trudeau regime, thank God.

01:00:53.640 And it's going to be an orgy of appointments between now and Sunday.

01:00:58.160 Sunday, he's reportedly going to hire dozens of liberal, appoint dozens of liberal-leaning

01:01:05.260 judges, you know, any sort of government board that, you know, he's going to appoint hundreds

01:01:11.200 and hundreds of people in the last days of his prime ministership.

01:01:17.600 So, you know, that type of pork barreling does not go down well with Canadians, I don't

01:01:24.880 think.

01:01:25.100 Oh, well, when, when Justin's dada did that, uh, John Turner really got slaughtered in the election because of that.

01:01:31.440 I mean, that was the turning point when Brian Mulroney just, uh, wasted him in the, in the debates.

01:01:35.800 You, sir, had a choice, I think was, was the quote and it really, I, yeah, it sickens people.

01:01:41.080 So I think that bounce that you may have seen Carney get, uh, uh, when he first started the leadership campaign, I think that's going to hopefully widen a little bit now.

01:01:50.660 So there are reports that the Liberals have already hired an Air Canada plane

01:01:56.620 to be their campaign jet, and it's all decked out now in Liberal colours.

01:02:01.660 And, you know, all the big wigs in the Conservative Party 0.98

01:02:06.440 have been summoned back to Ottawa all week, and they're no doubt plugging away.

01:02:10.680 So Carney gets coronated on Sunday,

01:02:14.360 and he's expected to call an election within a week.

01:02:18.140 So the typing of your new show is quite good.

01:02:22.200 Perhaps.

01:02:22.680 We'll see.

01:02:23.120 I mean, yeah, I started the show with my speculations of when it's going to be called.

01:02:26.380 I figured he might go two weeks and go down on the throne speech just as it's a nice campaign kickoff, right?

01:02:32.040 Because that's happened before.

01:02:33.140 But then you have to call part of him back, right?

01:02:35.020 Yeah, for a day, just to have your campaign kickoff, and then you go back to the...

01:02:38.720 I don't think we'll see him as Prime Minister in the House of Governments.

01:02:43.100 Okay.

01:02:43.360 I just think, uh, you know, it's, he's, he's, he's looking at the polls and they, they haven't been this close in a very, very long time.

01:02:51.620 No.

01:02:52.000 Uh, so the longer he, the longer he doesn't call it, the more people will get angry over Trudeau's last days and, and stuff like that.

01:02:59.540 So strike while the iron's gone.

01:03:00.720 Yeah.

01:03:00.980 I think it's going to be sooner than later, but you know, who knows?

01:03:04.060 He may be right.

01:03:04.880 Well, we'll see, but he'll be covering it hard and heavy.

01:03:06.900 I, I, uh, I guess we will all watch.

01:03:08.800 It'll be what, Sunday evening when they announce this?

01:03:10.460 Sunday evening, our Jen Hodgson will be covering it.

01:03:14.240 So we'll have the breaking news story up on the site and additions all the way through

01:03:19.460 from his no doubt victory speech.

01:03:22.220 Right on.

01:03:22.820 We'll see if he can garner up some energy for that.

01:03:25.660 Sure.

01:03:26.220 Some bloody animation.

01:03:28.140 Maybe they'll...

01:03:28.480 Kind of life.

01:03:29.180 Just give him a rail before he gets up there and see if it worked for Freeland.

01:03:33.380 Or do Elizabeth May and just get hammered. 1.00

01:03:36.060 Whatever.

01:03:38.500 Politics is so weird.

01:03:39.640 I can't help but love it.

01:03:40.920 You know what?

01:03:41.460 Every day has been just amazing and historic.

01:03:44.840 You know, I mean, who'd have thought he would have kicked a leader of the Ukraine out of the Oval Office?

01:03:49.900 People bitching that he's wearing his military uniform, which he's done for the last three years.

01:03:55.100 It doesn't matter who he visits, he wears that uniform.

01:03:58.160 G.I. Jolie was wearing her military.

01:03:59.720 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:00.240 And people forget Winston Churchill came to the White House in his military garb.

01:04:04.520 And nobody questioned that, did they?

01:04:07.120 So it's weird.

01:04:08.780 It's, uh, you just, you just don't know what's coming.

01:04:11.760 No.

01:04:12.200 Well, keeps us rolling.

01:04:13.660 All right.

01:04:13.940 Keeps us rolling and keeps the readership going skyrocketing.

01:04:17.140 Well, I appreciate the rundown.

01:04:18.560 I'll let you get back to your desk.

01:04:20.220 I know you got a long dragged out meeting there earlier.

01:04:22.860 Yeah.

01:04:23.160 Well, you've been in a few of those times.

01:04:26.360 I have.

01:04:27.260 All right.

01:04:27.920 I'll let you get to whatever you've probably been backing up all that time.

01:04:31.020 Yeah.

01:04:31.220 I think I got a couple hundred emails to go through now.

01:04:33.040 All right.

01:04:33.460 Thanks for the check-in and we'll talk to you later, Dave.

01:04:36.120 Thanks, Corey.

01:04:36.660 All right.

01:04:37.040 as our news editor, Dave Naylor. And yes, this just keeps going and going. But again,

01:04:41.940 it's better than dead news times, at least from our self-serving aspect of things, right?

01:04:46.240 So let's look at a little more on what's going on then. I'm going to go into what the top issues

01:04:53.540 are and what's been considered to be the top issues. And because that's what they're going

01:05:00.120 to campaign on. As I said, with Polyev, he was hitting hard on the carbon tax, but he kind of

01:05:04.360 lost that now that all the liberals have changed their minds that are not in favor of carbon tax.

01:05:08.960 So this was a large poll done by Abacus. It's David Coletto. They're one of the better pollsters

01:05:13.260 out there for sure. So number one, you can see right on the top of the list, rising cost of

01:05:18.840 living. 61%. That's what people were asked with their top three issues. 61% of people said the

01:05:24.520 rising cost of living. The bottom line is that's a reality in politics. That's where the woke have

01:05:28.360 been really screwing up this last few years. Paying the bills ends up coming first. That doesn't

01:05:35.940 matter. When times are good, you can start messing around with other stupid little policies, 1.00

01:05:40.840 vanity projects, virtue signaling, all that. But when you can't make the rent, when you can't buy 0.99

01:05:46.040 the groceries, then you start getting concerned. So the cost of living is way up on top. Number two

01:05:52.220 is Donald Trump and his administration. That's quite something because that would have been an

01:05:56.760 issue that, you know, six months ago didn't exist on the issues. Now it's number two by a long shot.

01:06:02.580 Again, with the tariff or with all of the other stuff going on, of course, and it's kind of pretty

01:06:05.980 tightly tied into that rising cost of living. Number three, we've got healthcare. That's always,

01:06:12.160 again, in the top areas of polling for people with issues. Provincially, usually it's the bigger

01:06:18.800 one, but I mean, it's still a big issue to people in general. That's 38% of people felt that was up

01:06:23.940 top housing, affordability, and accessibility. So that kind of gets right to the top of that rising

01:06:29.600 cost of living again. Everybody's worried about their wallet. That's the reality. So people,

01:06:35.060 when they're campaigning, they're going to be trying to find a way to say, how are we going

01:06:38.140 to make you more wealthy or at least less fearful that you're going to go broke because the next

01:06:43.160 one below that is the economy. So it's not often actually when we see it laid out so solid, that

01:06:48.520 means people are pretty scared for their economic well-being. They're worried about their wallets

01:06:54.520 and tax hikes, big government programs, things like that. I don't know if those are going to

01:07:00.020 sell that well. Now, Justin Trudeau, as Dave said, he's going out the door and he's going to appoint

01:07:05.400 a whole whack of people to a bunch of positions as favors to all his friends and buddies before he

01:07:09.400 goes. Another thing he's going to do, maybe he's done, I don't know, but legacy projects is a big

01:07:13.940 thing for when prime ministers are going out. So he just announced and entrenched this daycare

01:07:18.060 program just massively i mean so he really wants to have something you know the justin trudeau

01:07:25.140 daycare i can imagine because i mean justin still is probably inclined to finger painting and other

01:07:30.220 such hobbies so he can relate to those kids there but it's not the government's job to raise our

01:07:35.180 kids make things affordable and we can afford daycare we can afford to have kids at home or

01:07:41.640 do what our choices but he's leaving with that big uh bomb as far as i'm concerned sitting there

01:07:48.220 So we'll see.

01:07:49.440 And we'll see what else he tries to entrench on his way out the door.

01:07:51.760 Because, again, it's going to be hard for Carney.

01:07:53.620 He's going to have to wear those things.

01:07:54.760 Just to throw these out, and then he's just going to leave right off into the sunset

01:07:58.280 and do whatever the heck he's going to do.

01:08:01.060 Another scary thought, just to keep people awake at night.

01:08:03.700 Look at how history tends to repeat itself, right?

01:08:06.280 You know, it's pretty interesting, really.

01:08:07.560 I mean, we've got, again, another Trudeau.

01:08:09.840 We've got another crisis, all these things going on.

01:08:12.600 when Pierre Trudeau resigned the first time. Don't forget, he wasn't gone. Everybody was

01:08:19.220 sick to death of him. They were tired of him. He resigned. And then he came back not long later,

01:08:26.880 and he managed to get four more years beating on us. He wasn't out the door for good, so we had

01:08:31.840 to deal with him resigning twice. Will Justin come back in a year or two? Scary thought. But,

01:08:37.600 you know, nothing's impossible anymore, right? Things are so nuts. All right, going farther down

01:08:42.240 on the top issues facing Canada. Getting down now, 24% is immigration. That's kind of interesting

01:08:48.880 because that was a hot issue for quite a while. It was one of the areas where the Liberals

01:08:52.340 kind of backed down a bit because when we got the housing crisis really going in the healthcare

01:08:57.620 crisis, so those things that are higher up, people did realize because the Liberals were pumping in

01:09:02.360 massive amounts of immigration and immigrants, and we just didn't seem to have the ability 1.00

01:09:09.300 to maintain them. So of course it puts a run on the cost of living, whether it's rentals or buying

01:09:15.660 a house, it makes it more difficult to get into health facilities. And most Canadians do understand

01:09:20.400 we're an immigration based country. Immigration is very important. We pride ourselves in being a

01:09:25.260 place for people to come and make a new life and get here and settle in. And in fact, again,

01:09:30.540 it's very important for our economy to have that going on. But if you have too much of it,

01:09:34.840 it causes a lot of problems.

01:09:37.380 You have to make sure that you're integrating it.

01:09:39.460 So they overplayed it and it hit onto all those other areas.

01:09:44.760 But it has dropped in and itself as an issue on the top of Canadian minds.

01:09:48.900 So 24% saw that as one of their top three big issues.

01:09:53.280 Now here's one of the interesting ones.

01:09:55.080 Climate change and the environment has dropped to 16%.

01:09:58.540 This was where Justin Trudeau built his reputation.

01:10:02.160 This is where his legacy was going to be.

01:10:03.560 he's going to save the world from climate change. He's going to save all the fluffy bunnies from

01:10:07.900 that sun burning all the forests down. And he was going to carbon tax us all into a better place.

01:10:13.560 He was going to shut down the evil, nasty oil field. And it's down to 16% of people even find

01:10:19.260 it in their top three issues anymore. Interesting for Elizabeth May as well, right? So that's really 0.99

01:10:24.660 dropped. And that's what I was talking about when it comes to these types of issues I'm going to

01:10:29.200 get to as we get farther down, when people have trouble paying the bills, those issues drop. If

01:10:34.780 you're in an economic boom, that's when you can start talking about all these fluffy things,

01:10:38.140 building windmills and sticking solar panels on top of taxis or something. Now it's down to 16%.

01:10:42.840 This one, here's the one that got lower though, that I really, okay, fair enough. I didn't expect

01:10:48.160 this to happen. Crime and public safety is 15%. Like an issue that the liberals have been beat

01:10:53.540 up on a lot for, and I think rightly so, is, you know, we've got a lot of criminals out on bail,

01:10:57.780 getting out, harming people. And, uh, you know, that, uh, along with, I mean, the things people

01:11:03.060 want is they want a solid economy. They want to be able to pay their bills, but they also want to

01:11:06.640 feel safe. They want to be able to think that their kids can get to school without getting

01:11:10.520 harmed. They want to think themselves can get to work without, you know, being assailed somewhere.

01:11:14.980 But people aren't seeing that as a, as a top, uh, issue in their top three right now. Anyway,

01:11:20.720 so, okay. Surprising another one, job security and unemployment. So that one's kind of interesting.

01:11:25.680 people don't think they're going to get laid off. That's down to 12%. People don't think they're

01:11:30.660 going to get laid off, but they're worried about being able to pay the bills. That's what's going

01:11:37.260 on. They're working and working, but they're falling farther back. They're not worried about

01:11:40.560 being unemployed. They're just worried about making the car payment or buying the groceries.

01:11:44.400 That's the problem. So it's an interesting thing going on. Below that, we get inequality and

01:11:50.060 poverty. Now, people are worried about poverty. They're worried about inequality, but it gets

01:11:54.700 into the DEI thing there's been a backlash you know diversity equity inclusion inequality people

01:12:00.680 want equality they do they want everybody to have the same starting point at least it's just that we

01:12:06.680 don't have to guarantee the end point for everybody and uh people have soured on that that's getting

01:12:11.580 into the woke politics that's where we saw some of the backfiring going on and that's where we're

01:12:16.020 down to 13 percent and bear in mind these are core liberal issues right when you get into that sort

01:12:20.900 of stuff. This is where the liberals used to really earn their votes or thought they did.

01:12:27.520 And we get down now to the threat posed by China and Russia. That's only 7%.

01:12:31.440 The foreign interference file. This is the one that really was the beginning of the end for 0.74

01:12:35.660 Justin Trudeau when things finally, you know, one of the scandals that finally caught up with Trudeau

01:12:39.860 was the interference thing, was Chinese interference in elections and nominations

01:12:45.000 and in politicians. And they ragged the puck and they dragged it out and they had their

01:12:50.360 uh rapporteur and all their garbage and everything else and finally had this this sad little hearing

01:12:56.300 and said it's a nothing burger and it apparently worked because i think i i don't think people

01:13:00.060 are have given up on worrying about those things they're just tired out fine china's over well

01:13:08.120 don't it's not guys actually it's not but that's still as far as the voters are concerned it is

01:13:13.060 and actually getting straight direct to the chinese election interference that landed at

01:13:16.480 2% in the polls with what people are concerned of. So they do see that issue as being behind them

01:13:21.340 right now. I think they shouldn't, but it doesn't matter what I think in this case. This is what

01:13:26.460 campaigners are looking at. This is what they're thinking about. What's going to get people out to

01:13:30.960 vote for them? And this Chinese election interference, again, this is where Polyev 0.92

01:13:34.400 gets a bit more of a disadvantage because that was a very effective area for him to really hit

01:13:38.820 the liberals quite hard. And he's lost that because people apparently just aren't that

01:13:42.720 concerned about it. Another strong area for liberals, indigenous reconciliation. That now

01:13:47.940 is 4% of people see that as a big priority. People are kind of tired of that. The Kamloops

01:13:53.600 residential school hoax, and it has been a hoax, guys. And people are starting to more openly say

01:13:59.760 it. It's not saying that the residential schools were a good idea. It's not saying that the 0.55

01:14:03.720 residential schools were nice places. It's not saying that people weren't abused. But it is

01:14:08.440 saying that it was a load of baloney that 215 children were buried at that bloody school. 0.99

01:14:12.720 it was a load of crap when the flags were put at half mass for six months over a hoax because they 0.98

01:14:19.540 never even dug a hole what people are finding out now that that band got given 12 million dollars to 0.96

01:14:23.600 go look and never looked they just pocketed the money they won't tell us what they did with the

01:14:28.480 money so yeah and unfortunately because that makes people cynical uh because there are other areas

01:14:35.560 that we've really got to work on in in first nations people in indigenous areas but when you

01:14:40.280 have a hoax like that, people get sour and now it drops and drops towards the bottom of the

01:14:47.300 priority issues for people. And that was through a poll. Polls are polls. There's lots of things

01:14:52.560 you can do with polls to make them look the way you want them to look or not. Now I'm going to

01:14:58.900 bring up projections. The polls have been bouncing around like a ping pong ball lately. And right

01:15:07.560 Now, this is from a site based on March 2nd.

01:15:11.460 There was actually a stronger poll for the Conservatives since then.

01:15:15.180 As I said, seat distribution versus popular votes is a difficult thing to look at.

01:15:20.200 It's projecting 160 seats for the Conservatives, 139 for the Liberals, 28 for the Bloc, 14 for the NDP, and 2 for the Greens still.

01:15:31.180 That's what they're projecting.

01:15:32.380 I mean, a lot can change.

01:15:34.140 That would be a Conservative minority.

01:15:36.680 They wouldn't get a heck of a lot done.

01:15:39.260 That's for sure.

01:15:40.780 The regional, we would certainly see some regional crankiness going on if this happened.

01:15:46.280 You look in Alberta and Saskatchewan, and it's surprising.

01:15:50.240 They project one Liberal seat gain in Saskatchewan.

01:15:54.060 They have zero right now.

01:15:55.440 In Alberta, they figure one of the Liberals will lose their seat.

01:15:58.460 Probably one of the Randys, but maybe Chahalm. 0.99

01:16:01.940 And 35 Conservatives up there, but it's still solidly Conservative.

01:16:05.100 but they feel that the Ontario Liberals will overtake.

01:16:08.520 This is from when some projections were getting to the point

01:16:11.180 of thinking the Liberals would be down to 22 seats.

01:16:13.520 That low.

01:16:14.380 And suddenly it's bounced to this in the projections.

01:16:17.060 Newfoundland, PEI, Nova Scotia.

01:16:18.880 Again, pretty solid Liberal country.

01:16:20.740 New Brunswick split five and five.

01:16:23.480 Quebec.

01:16:25.100 We're looking at 36 Liberals, 28 Bloc, 13 Conservatives.

01:16:30.120 And BC.

01:16:30.660 You know, BC, I'll grant them.

01:16:32.340 They've got, I think, some of the most pizza politics going on, you know, a variety.

01:16:36.420 You just don't know what is going to come out of BC.

01:16:38.540 They really got swing seats.

01:16:40.620 Back in the 90s when there was a reform party, you could have a reform party member, a good

01:16:44.860 solid conservative blue type of member in a seat down in the lower mainland and right

01:16:50.080 next door have a socialist NDP member in the next seat over to it.

01:16:53.260 And they could flip.

01:16:55.020 And it hasn't changed too much.

01:16:56.920 Interior BC is still very conservative.

01:16:58.800 You got 24 conservatives there.

01:17:00.160 lower mainland though they're looking at 13 liberals 5 ndp and of course elizabeth may's

01:17:05.060 little green hold out there on salt spring island and again these are projections they're difficult

01:17:10.260 but it certainly has changed you need 172 seats to make a majority and nobody under this projection

01:17:18.600 will win that if this holds i mean again we've got a campaign just about to begin we got all

01:17:24.660 those issues to look at. And the polls are all over the map. I'm going to call up ECOS to start.

01:17:31.360 Now, this is a poll that you really got to take this with a grain of salt. ECOS is owned by Frank

01:17:37.320 Graves. Frank Graves is a character to say the least. He has been very vocal with his pro-liberal

01:17:44.320 support and his outright loathing of the Conservative Party. And it says a lot about

01:17:49.540 polls, that his polls turn out to be the most supportive of the Liberals out of everybody's.

01:17:56.660 It does mean that he's letting his bias slip into his polling. So you really can't take his polls

01:18:02.860 very seriously. It's very difficult to. And of course, so you look at that spike over on the end

01:18:07.600 for the people who are watching this graphically, it shows, of course, the curve. A lot of people

01:18:10.900 probably seen these poll spikes and the blue line is getting higher and higher over the last couple

01:18:15.480 of years as the Conservatives are getting more support. The Liberals are going down, down, down,

01:18:19.060 just plummeting under Trudeau. And then just in the last couple of weeks that the Liberals spike

01:18:24.440 right up, the Conservatives plummet, the NDP plummet, and the Liberals actually pass the

01:18:29.560 Conservatives. He's got them at 38.4% support for the Liberals, 37% for the Conservatives,

01:18:36.900 down to 11.8% for the NDP. Is it possible? I guess maybe. But you see, as I said, he's probably,

01:18:44.440 as far as I'm concerned, especially due to his past public statements, the least credible

01:18:49.060 pollster of them all out there. Though there's no doubt that there has been a bounce. The liberals

01:18:55.580 have been going up in the polls. So we'll go to Leger next. And they're talking now about,

01:19:02.900 see, here's some of the difference. They say 43% conservative, 30% liberal. So that's like a,

01:19:10.680 14 or 15 percent deviation from ECOS. Massive. Massive. Who do you trust with these? One of

01:19:21.200 them is wrong. Terribly wrong. I'm more inclined to think it's ECOS is wrong just because he's

01:19:26.720 shown such bias. It does also check with Mark Carney as leader. It thinks it would rise three

01:19:34.560 more points. They think it would do better if assuming Carney's in there to 33 percent,

01:19:38.580 while conservative would drop down to 41.

01:19:42.520 But it's showing a pretty strong conservative thing.

01:19:47.080 But again, quite a ways from that 20-point spread that was there before.

01:19:50.440 So they definitely have tightened.

01:19:52.020 That's where, again, Polyev has to endear himself with the public.

01:19:55.480 He's got to find a way to connect with them.

01:19:57.480 Because even with the polls like Legere, who's not as crazy as Frank Graves,

01:20:03.500 they're definitely losing some ground or had.

01:20:06.840 I mean, this also shows that there was a bounce recently.

01:20:09.100 So the conservatives kind of went up five points.

01:20:10.640 That's a really volatile electorate.

01:20:13.520 You know, when you're talking week by week, five point changes, and you're not even into

01:20:17.180 the campaign yet, this is going to be a rough and tumble campaign, folks.

01:20:21.600 You know, numbers, unless there's a particular disaster hits or something like that, you

01:20:26.720 don't see them swing too, too much throughout a campaign.

01:20:29.660 Now, David Coletto with Abacus.

01:20:32.360 I like him.

01:20:34.340 He does very large polls.

01:20:36.000 He does regular polls.

01:20:37.220 And I'm not liking him just because his polls tend to support conservatives.

01:20:40.160 I just, he seems to really dig in the deepest on these.

01:20:43.960 And as you can see, this is a chart of his work over the last few years and ongoing polls,

01:20:49.240 constant polls.

01:20:50.480 It shows the same thing.

01:20:51.600 It shows a conservative drop in the last couple of weeks and a conservative spike, or I mean

01:20:56.000 a liberal spike, I should say, and the, and the NDP collapse.

01:20:58.380 So, I mean, they're all correlating to a degree, but, uh, still again, the outliers

01:21:05.580 when when we're hitting other polls that are saying that they're neck and neck this one's

01:21:09.240 saying there's there's uh 12 points between the conservatives and the liberals but the trending

01:21:13.740 look at the trending for the people who can see the graph anyways the liberals are trending up

01:21:18.160 trending is important it's everything it's momentum so as dave was saying he feels that

01:21:24.080 you know carney is going to call that election very quickly after uh being crowned as the leader

01:21:28.900 of the liberal party uh it makes sense you know it makes sense you want to get in as i said strike

01:21:33.860 while the iron's hot, while you got the momentum. If you wait much longer, things can turn around

01:21:37.820 and they're very hard to turn around. Right now you're on an upward swing. See if you can run a

01:21:41.960 quick campaign and capitalize on that, pull it off. And meanwhile, Polyev, his momentum is going

01:21:49.200 downwards, which again makes anybody in a war room start to sweat a little. I mean, it's not

01:21:53.480 time to push the panic button yet by any means, but you've got to reevaluate where you were going.

01:21:59.380 you obviously aren't appealing to the electorate quite as much as you had been before. The question

01:22:05.520 is, is it Trudeau enough? You know, people were sick of him. There's no doubt about that, but

01:22:10.200 will people really embrace Carney and think he's going to change things that much from where Trudeau

01:22:16.160 was? I guess we'll see. That's what the campaign's all going to be about. So as we go through this,

01:22:21.580 guys, I'm going to be covering this every week. We're going to give highlights. We're going to

01:22:24.160 give updates. I'm going to pull up every poll I can. That's one of the great things during

01:22:27.040 election time. Don't worry, there will be many, many polls. And they're imperfect, as I just

01:22:32.500 showed. They're all over. So that's why I'll kind of report on a number of polls and just

01:22:36.360 we'll try and extrapolate as well as we can what's going on with those things. Because

01:22:41.820 you can't go with just one because they're all over the map. But it's still the best tool we

01:22:47.200 have to kind of look at things before an actual election is held. So we'll look at the polls,

01:22:53.840 We'll look at the issues.

01:22:54.620 We'll report on things.

01:22:56.120 Next week, there is going to be a new liberal leader.

01:22:58.480 I'm assuming it's Carney.

01:22:59.620 We don't know.

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