00:01:07.660I don't care who was there 500 years ago.
00:01:10.120All right, I got an interesting show, though.
00:01:11.540I'm just going to talk about some historical things.
00:01:13.640I'm going to have author and journalist John Fraser on.
00:01:15.800He wrote a book about the governor's general.
00:01:18.140I know I'm not much of a monarchist, but all the same, I still,
00:01:21.260the history is fascinating, and the rule is important,
00:01:23.560and it's played a big part, and it's worth looking back on
00:01:26.980and remembering and talking about, even if I hope one day perhaps the parliamentary system's in the
00:01:32.080rearview mirror. It should be a really good discussion. Otherwise, lots of news and things
00:01:37.340to cover. Let's get on to what I'm going to rant about today. You guys have probably seen it. Hang
00:01:40.380on to your pocketbooks. This is the latest big liberal project. So while the Canadian economy
00:01:46.180is on the rocks, you know, we get the ongoing tariff war racking the manufacturing sector,
00:01:51.200while Canada's soft embargo on expanding the ability to export oil and gas products
00:01:56.060prevents the energy sector from filling the economic void. We got subsidies for everything
00:02:01.240from battery plants to edible cricket farms, and they produce nothing more than a list of business
00:02:05.020failures and our national debt's exploding. Yeah, nice picture. So to address all of this,
00:02:09.100the economic wizard of Prime Minister Mark Carney has decided what the nation must do is sink
00:02:13.640around $100 billion into a publicly owned high-speed rail project to service the
00:02:19.300Laurentian Corridor in eastern Canada. The insanity of this notion beggars belief,
00:02:24.040Yet the Liberal Party, along with its stalwart supporters and legacy media, have circled the wagons and are now in full campaign mode, pushing the alleged merits of a high-speed rail line.
00:02:33.980Proponents of the line can't pretend there isn't a model of a North American high-speed project to examine before diving into this one.
00:02:40.180California began its high-speed rail odyssey in 2008.
00:02:43.680It was supposed to run between Los Angeles and San Francisco and cost about $35 billion to build.
00:02:49.460They anticipated it to be operational by 2020.
00:14:15.920But I always like to feel, though, that at least if we got up, we engaged.
00:14:19.980We participated in the electoral process.
00:14:22.980Our representatives will, to some degree, fill that role with some principles and stay within there.
00:14:28.640But as we see, there's been differences with those floor crossings, some who are perhaps a little close in ideology to the federal government than others.
00:14:38.980I mean, I got to wonder how some of the Liberal members feel suddenly embracing this new member of their caucus who so recently was ripping them on pretty much every principle she could.
00:14:49.420All right, well, let's get on to the unelected aspect of our government.
00:15:01.600And it's something that I love reading about and going into, and even if I want to see it change.
00:15:08.200So John Fraser, who's a journalist and author, has been around a long time, wrote The Governor's General.
00:15:13.520And it's a lot of short stories covering them from the 60s all the way up into the current.
00:15:18.140And it's a little more than just your typical history book or something like that.
00:15:22.180A lot of personal information from whether, well, he managed to use praying to get out of getting the cane for smoking
00:15:28.720or offering the latest Governor General's husband just some advice on how to be the second person in office there.
00:15:36.860It was a really, really good read, and I've been looking forward to talking to him.
00:15:39.900So let's bring in Mr. Fraser and discuss that book.
00:15:44.340Hello, sir. Thank you very much for joining us today.
00:15:47.060I'm thrilled. I was enjoying listening to you talk about the very transportable members of parliament that we have these days.
00:15:55.480Yeah, well, and I guess, I mean, it's an elected role. People will come and go. People come and go in the role of governor general as well.
00:16:05.780But I guess with our vice regals, I could see in some sense there's a little more of an honesty to it.
00:16:09.780You know that it's a role that's an appointed one and often for optics or political reasons rather than functionality.
00:16:16.780But it's maybe I could have faith in feeling a little better about some of the people there rather than our elected officials right now.
00:26:19.340But she also, whenever there was something, a big deal, she would write her own speeches, no question.
00:26:25.140And to me, that was one of her assets, was that she was a good communicator.
00:26:28.680She knew how to present herself, and she understood, perhaps because she was slightly at a remove from a traditional government general because of her race and her gender.
00:26:43.380Yeah, well, and then she wasn't lacking for resources in the household. I mean, her husband, John Ralston Saul, is, you know, a persona in his own right, of course, and he seemed as, I guess, being in that role, comfortably embraced being kind of the second person for a little while, I guess, confident enough in his own, you know, place that it worked out very well, actually.
00:27:21.360But, you know, I put in the book a story that I once had an interview with Prime Minister Harper, and he said the single biggest headache he had with most of his vice legal appointments was spousal alienation, the Prince Philip job, walking three steps behind, and just not defined.
00:27:39.100The only thing I've suggested that I thought any new prime minister or appointment to this office should consider is to make an understanding that the spouse, whether it's male or female, has a more elevated role in this and can do things.
00:27:55.300And to me, there was a great example by accident when when Governor General Leger, who who had a stroke in office and his wife basically had to become the governor general.
00:28:06.860She read the speeches from the throne and and and did a terrific job.
00:28:12.520And and most of our relationships, our marriages, if they're working, is as marriage of equals.
00:28:19.460And I think that that office should be a reflection of what is everyday reality in our lives.
00:28:25.260Yeah, well, and just to kind of cap it off, it went quickly, but I mean, I would suggest people read the whole book so they could get it all.
00:28:31.500And towards the end, you shared what you'd offered as advice for Mary Simon's husband, in a sense, I guess, just to help with that role and things like that.
00:28:43.800Is perhaps, you know, it important, I guess, for these people getting into these roles.
00:28:48.260They don't necessarily know what they're getting into or their spouses might.
00:29:13.800But there was the other issue I had, which was my wife,
00:29:16.420when she heard there was sniffing around me, she said,
00:29:18.540if you want to play queen, you can do it on your own.
00:29:20.620and we've been married 50 years and I know who the boss is and I also have owed her so much
00:29:28.060because I was 20 years in a kind of similar position at Massey College as the master of the
00:29:33.720college and she gave up she gave up her career in CBC and and lots of things so that so that we
00:29:40.460could do it together and she was great at that so she she she'd earned the right to say okay enough
00:29:45.820well that's good and you'd written on the importance on how it is a partnership for
00:29:50.200their governors general and their spouses going in. So you knew as well in such a role, if you
00:29:54.500don't have the other half on board, you're just a recipe for disaster. Misery. All right. Well,
00:30:00.480thank you very much for writing that and for taking the time with us. Before I let you go,
00:30:03.900how can people find a copy of this book? Should be in leading bookstores everywhere. Are there
00:30:08.000any bookstores left out in the West? Come on. There's a few here and there. They're not like
00:30:11.300they used to be. That's for sure. I got to admit, I get most of mine online now. You want to hear
00:30:15.320something shocking? They told me yesterday, I think because it got launched officially and
00:30:19.240there there was a launch but they told me it was it was this is a book on governor's general and
00:30:25.380you know what i'm talking about it was number one of the day non-fiction on amazon
00:30:29.960and it's the timing i do think we we thank president trump for making us take a look at
00:30:37.600our own system of government that's one of one of the pluses of that presidency and also um
00:30:42.340i think also the transition is coming there's going to be a new one appointed almost any day
00:30:46.600or announced so yeah no we've seen that yeah it's on the way and uh we certainly to see a
00:30:53.340parallel of our system with the crazy orange man down south uh helps us maybe examine that uh as
00:30:58.960imperfect as ours might be uh there's also some issues uh to be dealt with on the other end of
00:31:03.020the spectrum there are there are all right well thank you for for uh talking talking about the
00:31:10.700subject which is very dear to my heart and important oh i could tell in in reading the
00:31:15.280writing of it and i look forward to being able to speak with you about it so uh i thank you again
00:31:19.360and uh look forward to perhaps seeing more of your work out there thanks cory take care yeah
00:31:24.880so you guys one more time that uh it was john fraser and and if you look it up yes on on amazon
00:31:29.520or in your local bookstores then uh the governor's general and and it's a good read and and it's just
00:31:35.040the the ones from the 60s uh getting up into contemporary and uh as i said you know i mean
00:31:41.520yeah there's guys like me I like reading some nice thick history tomes and so on but this is
00:31:46.560broken more into bite-sized pieces governor general by governor general and it's not
00:31:51.120going into the real nuts and bolts but just more of the personalities and characters of them and
00:31:57.040they have been uh from ones I guess and he was you know a critical answer and flattering uh on on
00:32:03.920each of them in different aspects Ed Schreier sort of one it was just sort of adequate he was there
00:32:08.560He did okay, didn't do bad, didn't stand out, and filled the role.
00:32:14.060And you get farther, as I mentioned, Julie Payette, who really I think most people would agree just was a terrible, terrible selection for the job.
00:32:22.420Just was not the person who should have been there.
00:32:24.880And it's not that she was a foolish person.
00:32:28.360I mean, this is an astronaut, literally.
00:32:30.360This is a strong force, a determined person, but just did absolutely horrifically in that role.
00:32:37.800And some of that, I guess, is you got to point to the person who selected her for that.
00:32:42.580And that is Justin Trudeau, whose vision for the consequences of his actions was never really one of his stronger points, to say the least.
00:32:50.620I've been, you know, you know how I feel about former Prime Minister Trudeau.
00:32:54.680Either way, yes, I suggest you guys get out, grab that book if you like history and contemporary history and the realities of some of the things with the system right now.
00:33:04.000I mean, I'm as critical of the system as it gets.
00:33:07.800I feel that we should work towards something of a more Republican system or, of course,