Western Standard - How China will Cubanize Canada's roads

00:00:00.000 Good evening, Western Standard viewers, and welcome to Hannaford, the Western Standard's

00:00:20.880 weekly politics show. It is Thursday, September the 11th. The federal liberals have a dream that

00:00:26.760 Canada will one day run on electricity, not fossil fuels, and they have bent their whole

00:00:32.940 approach to government in that direction, first under Justin Trudeau, and now under his former

00:00:39.020 mentor, the present Prime Minister, Mark Carney. They want net zero carbon emissions by 2035,

00:00:48.060 which is highly unlikely, and in particular it is demanding that only electric cars be sold

00:00:56.020 after 2035. But what a lot of people don't realize is that they're phasing this in early

00:01:03.780 until Mr. Carney announced a 12-month delay last week. Auto dealers were expecting to be required

00:01:11.660 by law in less than four months to make one-fifth of all passenger car sales electric. The ratio

00:01:19.880 was to grow to 60% in 2030. As a result of the Prime Minister's delay, the program now launches

00:01:28.360 January 1, 2027. But this all seems like craziness. What is the poor old dealer to do if nobody wants

00:01:37.080 an electric vehicle? With me today to talk about is Dan McTeague, no stranger to the Western

00:01:43.080 standard mr mcteague is president of canadians for affordable energy he used to be a liberal i

00:01:51.000 saw it on his facebook page once i don't know whether that's still there dan but welcome back

00:01:56.120 to the show good to be here mr hannaford nigel it's great to uh have a chance to uh once again

00:02:02.280 visit and speak and discuss the matters of great importance for all of us here at the western

00:02:07.480 standard. So Dan, what are the dealers supposed to do if they're selling cars and nobody wants to

00:02:14.420 buy them? Well, I've spoken to many. In fact, I did. I guess I was one of those many Canadians

00:02:18.920 who went out and purchased a vehicle back about a month ago. So the second quarter of 2025 was

00:02:24.420 very strong for internal combustion engines, ICE vehicles, sales versus the electric vehicle

00:02:31.220 purchases, which dropped 40 full percent comparing to last year's second quarter. So

00:02:37.920 what dealers are supposed to do is what many had expressed to me is that they're

00:02:41.740 faced with an absolute certainty of bankruptcy, or at least laying off or funding themselves out

00:02:49.340 of work, should it come to that. And of course, we hear from the Mark Carney government, they are

00:02:54.760 going to pause this. I don't think there's any sense in pausing it. They should have scrapped it

00:02:58.700 made a decision to get rid of it once and for all. But such is the affinity, the tenacity of the

00:03:05.740 climate cult liberals who hold fast to the idea that, you know, an inert product, an inert gas

00:03:14.880 like CO2, one of the three elements necessary for survival of life on this planet, water and oxygen

00:03:21.180 being the other, holding fast the idea that we should demonize one is well worth putting

00:03:26.120 economic distortions in place that would create not only car dealers going out of business and

00:03:31.640 no one wanted to buy these things, but no market forward in the United States now that the Trump

00:03:35.660 administration, first act of its government, rightly got rid of the Inflation Reduction Act,

00:03:44.220 the so-called IRA. I don't know why I call it that. Nevertheless, it's kind of strange that

00:03:49.020 no one picked up on that back in November. And now here we are today dealing with a full broad 0.93

00:03:55.260 spectrum of dealers going out of business and auto manufacturers especially here in Ontario

00:03:59.960 which I work for one possibly leaving the country or shutting down as well because there's no way

00:04:05.960 imposed mandates like this can be can be realistically made in an environment where

00:04:10.760 no one wants these things well okay so I thought that the Canadian auto industry was always based

00:04:18.960 on exporting to the united states and uh if now that they want to make electric cars there's no

00:04:27.120 way that the canadian market would ever be able to sustain uh demand for that many vehicles that

00:04:33.280 would make manufacturing them economic so are you saying that the auto industry is sunset industry

00:04:42.960 in Ontario? It is as long as it pursued this reckless and not well thought out short-sighted

00:04:49.880 policy. Now, Nigel, I am not unversed in this industry. Prior to being elected in 1993, I served

00:04:58.300 as media relations officer for a little tiny company that happens to be today's number one

00:05:03.540 manufacturer in the world and number one in Canada, Toyota Canada. And with two or three

00:05:08.660 manufacturers here in Ontario, many of them built since the late 1980s. At risk and at play are those

00:05:14.740 kind of plants that are going to be forced to say, hey, follow the mandate. You have to sell only

00:05:20.080 electric vehicles. You can only offer electric vehicles. They're not going that route. That's

00:05:25.340 a company that basically put a line in the sand some time ago and said, yeah, we'll take the

00:05:29.220 government grift. In other words, we'll take the mooch, we'll take the money, we'll take the public's

00:05:33.160 money much of it borrowed uh in in terms of debt but we're not going down that road the rest of

00:05:38.660 the world is not therefore we're not practically speaking you shouldn't either there's other

00:05:42.440 technologies out there that are just as good uh you know maybe solid state batteries if we're

00:05:46.500 going to go that route or more efficiency out of internal combustion engines melding that with

00:05:52.200 hybrids the last cut line i did when i worked at toyota was for a little vehicle called um the

00:05:58.060 tsunami at later risk it was a high it was a two-door prototype which is really the basis for

00:06:04.220 something called the Prius and it's that model the idea of hybrids with the engines that is now

00:06:09.100 going to be the mainstay for that company at least for the next 20 to 30 years now we can continue

00:06:13.160 to roll against the current and deny reality but for our friends in Ottawa who've never worked in

00:06:18.240 the Ottawa sector never worked in the energy sector obviously have never worked in the private

00:06:21.800 sector saving except those who can walk around saying well I work for you know a certain funds

00:06:27.120 company, as the Prime Minister does, reality is biting the federal liberals and their friends

00:06:32.120 in the bloc and the NDP reheart. No one wants these things. They're too expensive. They're

00:06:36.080 impractical. And we don't have the money to build the infrastructure.

00:06:39.740 Well, I think a lot of us have responded to this whole news, either by thinking it won't happen in

00:06:48.580 the end. And certainly the fact that it's been pushed back a year sort of plays into that

00:06:55.100 comfortable narrative and the other is well you won't be able to buy a new gas vehicle but you'll

00:07:00.740 still be able to you know in 20 in the last month of 2035 when i'm still able to buy or the 2034

00:07:07.860 when i'm still able to buy a gas powered car that's when i'm going to get my dream car

00:07:13.200 i'm sort of whatever age i am now and i'm going to make it last for 25 years now a lot could change

00:07:21.640 in government policy, and in fact, governments themselves could change between now and 2035.

00:07:28.140 But on the basis of what you know now, is that realistic thinking? Are you going to still be

00:07:35.580 able to run your gas job in 2035? Are they going to take all those gas pumps away?

00:07:41.960 Well, it seems that's what they want to do. One of the things with the second carbon tax,

00:07:46.120 we were never eliminated, we call it the second carbon tax back in 2019, 2020, it was proposed.

00:07:50.560 government try to suggest it was good there's a benefit a cost benefit analysis our good friend

00:07:55.700 economist a well-noted economist ross mckittrick did a study for campaigns for affordable energy

00:08:00.220 in which he pointed out that for every dollar of benefit there was six dollars in cost including

00:08:04.620 a one percent drop in gdp an average cost or hit about twelve to thirteen hundred dollars and that's

00:08:09.180 tax that refiners have to pay in other words they have to go to the carbon credit market

00:08:13.040 in order to uh offset uh the uh the requirement they drop emissions by thirty percent why well

00:08:19.920 because the technology doesn't exist for that, nor does it exist anywhere else in the world.

00:08:25.160 So we're superimposing on Canada, not only that which is unreal, but we're actually violating

00:08:29.760 the law of thermodynamics. We're violating any principles of science, let alone any breakthroughs

00:08:35.300 in technology. So, you know, I've said this before and I've felt too many people, it's cool to be

00:08:39.680 trendy. But when it comes to the cost, the cost of the Canadian economy, our prosperity, our future,

00:08:45.900 our industry our manufacturing sector our resource sector if you want to throw those all out and

00:08:51.600 cast them to the wind that's fine but how are you going to make the payments at the end of the week

00:08:55.800 how are you going to pay not only the massive debt the country has incurred how are people going to

00:09:00.820 have jobs when they've got nothing to offer the rest of the world is not invested in the rest of

00:09:04.860 canada don't take my word for it it takes 139 pennies to buy a u.s dollar you realize that

00:09:09.820 costs you and i 24 25 cents a liter for gasoline our lack of purchase power because of these bad

00:09:15.100 policies is having a cataclysmic effect. It's cascading into other areas of the economy,

00:09:19.840 including high food prices, high energy prices, and really lower paychecks for most Canadians.

00:09:26.980 So Dan, last week you placed an article in the Western Standard. You said this,

00:09:31.940 our country is lacking the charging infrastructure to support an entirely electric fleet of vehicles,

00:09:39.540 and we aren't building chargers anywhere near fast enough to close that gap.

00:09:45.100 We're also in a period of serious electric grid insecurity.

00:09:49.380 Even if you have the generators, you can't move the power.

00:09:53.940 And this insecurity is largely the result of the net zero nuttiness

00:09:58.460 and anti-oil and gas policies enacted by our ruling class

00:10:03.120 over the past decade or more.

00:10:06.440 That's what you said.

00:10:08.540 Where exactly do they think they're going to get the electricity

00:10:13.520 to power the millions of battery-powered cars

00:10:17.060 that they admit would still be out there

00:10:20.180 and could be plugged in every night.

00:10:23.240 Well, it's magical thinking.

00:10:24.920 Yeah, magical thinking, I suspect,

00:10:26.440 or maybe creative financing,

00:10:27.780 which I think we're going to find a lot more about

00:10:29.200 when Mark Carney tries to split the budget

00:10:32.140 into two forms of deficit,

00:10:34.400 a capital and an operational.

00:10:36.820 Either way, we're in a massive debt and deficit situation.

00:10:40.480 But, you know, I go back to some of my early works.

00:10:43.080 I worked for a little in a writing called Pickering in Scarborough East.

00:10:47.040 Here's a little symbol of that nuclear reactor that was built in 1965.

00:10:51.900 How do you have the money to build reactors, much less the infrastructure to get energy from those reactors to the point, those terminals where people need them, and then set up those terminals so people can plug them in?

00:11:03.100 The demand would be three times what we have now.

00:11:05.380 The Royal Bank of Canada in 2023 put out a report in terms of electrification of the country.

00:11:09.300 A little bit of an issue connected to this.

00:11:11.500 You got two and a half trillion bucks.

00:11:13.080 I don't know if it does. That's more than 100% of the GDP of our entire Canadian economy.

00:11:17.740 So, again, people bandy these things out as if, you know, because it's a great idea, we can do it.

00:11:22.560 But, you know, I'd like to have a million bucks in my bank account.

00:11:25.620 I can't just magically go and wave a magic wand and say, yeah, I got a million bucks,

00:11:28.860 although the federal government believes it does because that's the way it's spending money it doesn't have.

00:11:32.440 The reality, I think, for many of us is that the infrastructure is one question that cannot be resolved.

00:11:38.280 We just don't have the equipment, the financing, nor do we have the wherewithal.

00:11:44.160 We don't have enough electricians.

00:11:45.520 We don't have enough minerals to be able to mine and to bring out the copper and to provide all of what's required to make sure that there's 100% servicing of a 100% vehicle fleet in this country.

00:11:58.400 It is delusional beyond any discussion for anybody to believe that in nine short years you can have this done.

00:12:05.680 No other country would be that insane.

00:12:07.180 Even Norway knows they can't do it because at night they tell people to stop.

00:12:10.780 Don't plug in your vehicles, especially during the winter.

00:12:13.240 No, I think we need a bit of a dose of reality.

00:12:15.660 Unfortunately, the only way that's going to come about is for those pink slips to be hit. 0.97

00:12:19.100 A lot more Canadians because of the bad policies of government, not because of orange haired men bad south of the border,

00:12:25.180 but because of our own narrow, narrow sidedness and our short sidedness in terms of these policies,

00:12:30.560 which have no basis in fact, nor do they have any impact in terms of reducing so-called emissions.

00:12:37.720 Now, it is always difficult to get inside the head of somebody else.

00:12:42.700 And Mr. Carney is the person I'm thinking of here.

00:12:46.480 He obviously cannot be unaware of anything that you have just said.

00:12:51.840 He knows better than any of us, I guess, how little money there is and how much debt there is.

00:12:59.300 And that's probably why there's no liberty-ship crash-building program for generation and distribution.

00:13:08.280 But I am suspicious that he may be okay with that.

00:13:12.640 And I'm going to ask you whether you have the same job getting inside his head as I do.

00:13:17.900 but I am suspicious that his green anti-carbon sentiments might be quite comfortable with an

00:13:25.860 outcome where a lot less Canadians are a lot less mobile. Am I starting to lose my grip on

00:13:32.720 reality here, going over the nut edge? Well, I can tell you what will change Mr. Carney very

00:13:38.300 quickly is that the moment the country can no longer supply and afford and maintain a decent

00:13:43.900 level of living for most Canadians and starts to whittle down prosperity and our credit gets

00:13:49.020 downgraded. And yes, provinces like Quebec and Ontario, Manitoba and the eastern provinces like

00:13:54.220 in Atlantic Canada wind up seeing their equalization payments cut back. I think that's

00:14:00.320 going to be a very hard reality for many of these regions and many of these posers who for the past

00:14:05.140 10 years have offered us, you know, what amounts to shenanigan type politics that have

00:14:11.220 no basis in economic reality or financial reality. Look, Mr. Carney's company said it all for me.

00:14:17.760 Before he became prime minister, it moved to the United States. It bought the largest pipeline

00:14:21.800 in the United States in the world, the colonial pipeline. It bought into future nuclear with 0.64

00:14:28.720 respects to Brookfield's purchases of the once viable Westinghouse to get its nuclear division.

00:14:37.340 it's purchased very heavily into heat pumps there's no doubt in my mind that there many

00:14:43.360 people may believe very much in the fairy tale nonsense that we're killing ourselves with co2 0.99

00:14:48.380 but for people like mark carney it's one step above that it's how much money they can make

00:14:52.600 out of it so creating a carbon credit market unregulated based on nothing based on absolute

00:14:57.640 thin air if we can even call it that and which they're able to make riches enormous riches by 0.92

00:15:03.740 penalizing those who don't conform with their idea that you have to cut back co2 look i i don't want 0.82

00:15:09.020 to be pedantical i certainly don't want to be rude about this but people that concern about co2 that

00:15:12.980 damn well stop exhaling and i've said this many times if you think it's that problem that much

00:15:17.120 of a problem and you're part of that problem maybe it's time that you stop exhaling that we can make 0.99

00:15:21.720 the point really salient that all of the policies mr carney is advocating that he's written about

00:15:26.920 his book values which he seems not to be adhering to these days sooner or later the real mark carney

00:15:31.480 is going to have to show up. And we have the two

00:15:33.360 faces of Janus with Mr. Carney, like it or not.

00:15:35.840 I think Canadians are going to start to see the real

00:15:37.500 Mr. Carney very

00:15:38.960 shortly because Pierre Polyev, thankfully

00:15:41.440 he's back in the House of Commons, he's going to hold

00:15:43.320 his feet in the Cabinet, the

00:15:45.400 fire.

00:15:46.680 Dan, you're starting to make me doubt the good

00:15:49.300 faith of the Prime Minister.

00:15:52.060 You know,

00:15:53.280 it seems that the goal was

00:15:55.380 always to have electric

00:15:57.220 cars manufactured in Canada.

00:15:59.500 We mentioned this before, that the

00:16:01.260 American market for them will dry it up. So I'm wondering whether that is ever going to happen.

00:16:07.220 So Mr. Carney has strong ties, business ties with China, and we've also got a hundred percent

00:16:14.300 tariff on Chinese electric vehicles and an inconvenient retaliatory tariff on Canadian

00:16:24.440 and canola exports to China.

00:16:27.900 Do you see sort of a quid pro quo coming around here

00:16:31.140 where we end up with a market flooded by Chinese electric vehicles?

00:16:38.860 Yes, I do.

00:16:39.640 I think that's the only option he has

00:16:41.020 because the Chinese know how to play the game as well,

00:16:44.700 and their hit to the Canadian economy is significant

00:16:48.120 and far more damaging than what the Americans are doing with their tariffs.

00:16:52.140 I mean, at the end of the day, we're still dealing 95% of our goods with the United States, not just the automotive.

00:16:56.580 But if we think we can create a brand new industry, a battery industry, we need 15 years to catch up.

00:17:02.600 China did this 15 years ago. 0.67

00:17:04.300 In the late 2005, 2008 period, they decided they couldn't beat the West, including Canada, the United States and Europe, when it came to internal combustion engines and the ever-improving technology that brought emissions down.

00:17:18.520 They brought pollution down.

00:17:20.040 They brought, you know, fuel efficiency to levels that we had never seen.

00:17:25.280 So the Chinese basically gave up on it and said, we can't replicate what they're doing. 0.95

00:17:29.380 So we'll build electric vehicles.

00:17:30.840 That's great.

00:17:31.780 They have their place, Nigel.

00:17:34.000 You know, golf carts would be a great point where I would say, hey, they do great on a golf course.

00:17:38.480 They do great in downtown cities, perhaps, when you have to go from point A to point B.

00:17:43.600 Although you could use public transit.

00:17:45.120 We spend billions of dollars on that every year.

00:17:46.980 but they sure as heck cannot replace the efficiency the reliability the durability

00:17:53.140 and the economics of the internal combustion engine like it or not some people just think

00:17:57.760 it's an old-fashioned idea I heard Flavio Volpe's father I knew quite well sat with him in the house

00:18:03.080 of commons on my side many years auto parts guy came in you would only say the CBC the only people

00:18:08.600 who want to not have EVs are people I think he referred to them as you know people who want to

00:18:13.340 have pickup trucks and dinosaurs. If that's the kind of mentality that still pervades the

00:18:19.020 automotive sector and the power levers and institutions that make decisions in this country,

00:18:24.640 then I think we are definitely going to see an auto sector doomed to its own failure. While

00:18:29.140 companies like Toyota and Stellantis and Ford and Volkswagen and others are simply going to pack up

00:18:35.280 and go south of the border. And Canadians will have a choice. Yeah, they'll have their internal 0.60

00:18:38.940 combustion engines but there won't be one you know one scintilla of canadian content any of that

00:18:44.780 stuff that's because we've backed the wrong horse and we continue still back that wrong horse and

00:18:49.740 by a delay we continue to say maybe there's a hope there's no hope this thing is gone it's done

00:18:55.420 it's history it's toast people need to really wake up and smell their coffee and maybe get

00:19:00.020 their elbows down and start thinking for once well so so a lot of us are thinking about what is the

00:19:06.120 last gasoline-powered car that we're going to buy um well no i i mean if you if you like if you like

00:19:14.600 your gas car then that is certainly something that you're thinking about oh the cubanation of

00:19:19.240 canada wonderful no i think it's going to be rough for a long time people buy them from elsewhere

00:19:23.040 even their friends in quebec they're not stupid the number one per capita purchasers of pickup

00:19:28.680 trucks is in alberta and saskatchewan it's quebec and so you know uh these guys can continue to be 0.51

00:19:34.900 trendy and cool and row against the current pretend they have support for these things

00:19:39.180 the public really knows where to go on this and they've made it very very clear they did so this

00:19:43.500 just the report this week alone nigel said everything internal combustion engine vehicle

00:19:48.880 sales up 18 compared to the second quarter last year evs down 40 and the only reason they're kept

00:19:55.860 up is that because they're asking people who can't afford who have to pay their taxes so these people

00:20:01.540 can have a subsidy if you have to subsidize the building of these things you have to subsidize

00:20:06.180 the infrastructure of these things and you have to subsidize the purchase this makes no economic

00:20:10.240 sense it sure as heck doesn't make any fiscal sense so at the end of the day uh i'm saying

00:20:15.180 this whole vehicle ev mandate fantasy a branch and extension of net zero needs to be lined up

00:20:22.640 on the 30 yard line and punted right through the end zone the sooner the better so dan for so far

00:20:28.780 we've only talked about electric vehicles

00:20:30.900 but obviously our whole way of life is based

00:20:32.880 on secure electricity supplies

00:20:34.500 what else might Canadians

00:20:36.760 expect that hasn't been much talked

00:20:38.960 about so far as Mr.

00:20:41.200 Carney tries to take the carbon out of us

00:20:43.040 well I think Mr. Carney is going to have to have a

00:20:46.860 real sit down with people

00:20:48.940 who know better and that carbon

00:20:50.940 or at least human emissions of carbon

00:20:53.040 are not the dreadful

00:20:54.580 emergency catastrophic

00:20:57.060 thing that it appears to be. The United States administration has just included several top

00:21:04.460 scientists and economists who've said this fear-mongering that has been the basis by which

00:21:09.240 we have spent trillions of dollars trying to introduce renewables to make our energy availability

00:21:15.260 vulnerable and unaffordable is not working. It's not working in Europe. It's certainly not going

00:21:20.020 to be tried in China and it's not going to be worked out in the United States. So there can be

00:21:24.780 a little mix of that but not the tens of trillions of dollars that have had to be committed that some

00:21:29.500 are pretending we can commit to uh in the next few weeks nigel here in canada then that the argument

00:21:36.180 is going to be he has to present a budget when that's over 100 billion dollars in deficit added

00:21:41.560 to the 1.4 trillion already that's only federal remember the provinces are almost two trillion

00:21:46.560 dollars in debt collectively at a subsovereign level i think the gig will be up uh the bond

00:21:51.460 rating agencies are going to look at that say credit downgrade and by the way that means higher

00:21:55.260 interest rates that means less investment in the country that means we're back to where we were in

00:21:59.240 1981 or worse speculation dear god people ask me if this is part of a grander plan conceived at a

00:22:07.480 higher level of international intrigue this is the last question i don't know what to tell them but

00:22:12.280 i do see the same kind of pressures to go electric in europe and of course before president trump in

00:22:18.840 the United States. Is there a grander plan that we are aware of here in Canada? Oh there has to be

00:22:27.100 but Canada is susceptible to it because it's basically had a leadership that said basically

00:22:31.860 anything that goes whether it be Davos or whether that be the United Nations we're going to sign up

00:22:38.980 to something that is scientifically and intellectually questionable at best. I say to

00:22:45.480 people you know they say well you're not a climate scientist well neither are they but we have a lot

00:22:49.620 of political scientists that think they are and that's the problem is that we have a policy that's

00:22:54.520 made and derived in another part of the world it's hurting out of the world Europe is on its knees

00:22:58.400 Europe doesn't have natural gas it's got tons under its ground it has to rely on the United

00:23:02.560 States for LNG now that they you had the blowing up of the of the Nord Stream pipeline and Russia

00:23:09.960 of course invading ukraine that aside in the geopolitical conflict uh confrontation um you

00:23:16.560 now have a circumstance where europe is on its knees manufacturing is stalling uh the quality

00:23:22.900 of life is certainly in decline people are having trouble nigel you know this perhaps better than i 1.00

00:23:28.300 do elderly are finding it difficult to stay warm in the middle winter in uh in in uh in the uk it's

00:23:34.420 It's not a matter that gives us any comfort to say, hey, we're in Canada, we have lots

00:23:40.440 of resources.

00:23:41.740 But the fact that we have turned our idea away from being able to sell the world the

00:23:45.520 rest of our great resources, not just talking oil and gas or agriculture or mining, is a

00:23:51.460 real tragedy.

00:23:53.020 And whether that's the World Economic Forum pushing us on this net zero nonsense, which

00:23:58.000 it is and the scam or whether it is flooding the country with migration and going well beyond even

00:24:05.580 our own advisors in our public service who said this is not the way to go however we want to

00:24:11.680 conduct it it certainly isn't something the public wants now the public can be very ignorant in many

00:24:15.680 of these cases but the public did not sign up these programs and I think we need a clear definition

00:24:20.140 election on net zero which has led to significant decline or standard living and an era of

00:24:26.500 on affordability for just about everything.

00:24:28.020 Don't take my word for it.

00:24:29.320 Talk to anyone who's shopping at the grocery stores

00:24:31.060 when they're looking and saying,

00:24:32.620 you know, and our good friend,

00:24:33.740 Sylvain Charlevoix, the food professor,

00:24:35.660 saying, you know,

00:24:36.500 inflation on food continues to rise

00:24:38.180 faster than the United States, 0.53

00:24:39.780 faster than most European countries.

00:24:42.580 Can't say I haven't noticed that myself, Dan.

00:24:46.200 Dan McTeague is president of Canadians

00:24:49.100 for Affordable Energy,

00:24:50.660 a frequent guest of this program

00:24:52.240 and a frequent contributor of his thoughts

00:24:54.860 to the Western Standard.

00:24:56.500 we appreciate your insights dan and thanks for being on the show today

00:25:00.340 great to be here thanks for having me nigel for the western standard i'm nigel hanaford 0.72

Western Standard - September 12, 2025

How China will Cubanize Canada's roads

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