Western Standard - Is Carney flirting with the EU a good idea？

00:00:00.000 All right, welcome back.

00:00:27.500 um john you want to like i'm i we're having a wee bit of a technical difficulty i can't hear

00:00:35.520 in my headsets but i want to make sure you guys can hear me so if somebody can give a comment

00:00:39.700 or a thumbs up make sure you can hear me um all right welcome well anyways welcome well no i

00:00:47.400 better make sure i don't want to waste all my air and my breath if nobody can hear me john can you

00:00:53.200 confirm that the okay we're good to go awesome thank you uh all right nice day in calgary um

00:00:59.960 all good all right thanks uh who said that jason loose 5911 and therese says okay everybody's good

00:01:08.640 all right um lots to talk about today and i'm just gonna leave you with a quick question right now

00:01:15.120 i'll go through my sort of quick 15 minute monologue in the beginning and then i'm going

00:01:19.540 to leave you with a question because you know we're going to talk about it it's the carny trip

00:01:23.960 to europe and his summit that started here with his uh you know investment summit last week or

00:01:29.640 earlier this week but here's my question to you are you uh in favor of canada having a bigger

00:01:37.580 say in european affairs going as far as becoming a european partner in the eu so call in let me know

00:01:45.640 about that. The other thing you might want to call in and let me know about is your thoughts on the

00:01:50.820 by-election that happened here on Monday. I'll talk about that and maybe whatever else is on

00:01:58.260 your mind, right? The phone number is on the bottom there. So feel free to call in. Yeah. So

00:02:03.780 well, actually I drove in today. No, I didn't drive in. I took the train. I usually take the

00:02:10.800 train i just the the roads in calgary too many crazy drivers and uh i find i'd rather drive take

00:02:18.440 the train gives me time to collect my thoughts but at the train station it's been two weeks in

00:02:24.300 a row now where i've had a hard time finding a parking spot like it used to be empty and i guess

00:02:29.500 it's a sign that summer's over and people are going back to work and starting to train take

00:02:34.620 the train again but i had to drive around for about five minutes today and i think it's something

00:02:40.340 bigger like uh the price of gasoline in alberta just took a serious jump like it's a buck 75 a

00:02:47.080 buck 80 in some areas and i think that's scaring people and uh pushing them to take the train

00:02:53.100 um which is which is um which is unfortunate but uh and and that uh i'll i digress all right so

00:03:04.880 let me let me start with a quick observation I and maybe maybe this will make sense when I'm done

00:03:11.240 talking but I went to a town so I live in Rocky View County I live in the country northwest of

00:03:19.260 Calgary proper and a little town hall in my area on Tuesday evening to discuss a gravel pit

00:03:30.000 application. So somebody, a German company, Heidelberg, I believe they're called, wants to

00:03:37.380 propose a gravel pit in Rocky View County. And there's already three gravel pits in the area,

00:03:45.920 and the gravel pits fundamentally benefit Calgary, right? The gravel comes, it's close to Calgary,

00:03:52.160 convenient. There's not a lot of huge benefit. There's not a lot of benefits to the people in

00:03:57.220 my part of the world with this gravel pit and therefore this gravel pit has been rejected by the

00:04:04.100 county and uh thought that that was the end of the matter there but the proponent the company

00:04:12.340 is now appealing this decision to something called the natural resources conservation board

00:04:19.220 and and they're asking um they're asking if the gravel pit is in the interest of the province

00:04:28.420 something like that so i go to this meeting and i'm just listening and i got frustrated and on

00:04:36.040 on about three counts so the first one that's frustrated me is that there's a whole bunch of

00:04:40.420 people there that were um upset pissed off in general that their local decision so their

00:04:49.080 government locally municipal government county government is over it could potentially be

00:04:53.920 overruled by edmonton that pisses them off now in the area this area i bike around there and i can

00:05:01.240 tell you there's a lot of uh forever canadian signs in there and and there were some of those

00:05:07.180 people there and when i challenged them i'm like you're pissed off that your local government is

00:05:12.260 could be overruled by edmonton why are you not pissed off when your provincial government is

00:05:18.740 overruled by ottawa crickets right so got that and then the second thing that uh that started

00:05:26.500 upsetting me at that place is that when i talk if if the the the proposed gravel pit was smaller

00:05:35.460 just a by a local company or local outfit i think the dynamics would have been different but this is

00:05:40.980 a german conglomerate so people now are pissed off that uh europeans money is going to get

00:05:49.940 invested locally and benefit and then same thing i'm like well isn't carney in europe right now

00:05:55.380 putting us in bed with the europeans and when i challenge a few people there and by the way and

00:05:59.300 i'm by the way by the way i gotta step back i was there because i am fundamentally against this

00:06:03.940 gravel pit there's enough gravel pits in the area i don't need another one there is no benefit to me

00:06:09.140 locally but we could move that gravel pit you know 10 miles further and the economic impact

00:06:15.700 the cost of gravel might be slightly up for the people of calgary but you know what anyway so i'm

00:06:20.660 fundamentally opposed but i'm i'm exposing when i'm discussing this with some of the people i just

00:06:26.820 wanted to get you know this is what i do i want people to think broadly and and and and so i

00:06:32.900 challenge people i'm like would you be in favor if this was a local development instead of a german

00:06:37.620 company and then you get more yeah it'd be okay so i'm like all right more hypocrisy because you're

00:06:43.300 you're you're against germany investing here but you want us to go invest in germany and join the

00:06:48.260 european union you see what i'm saying and then lastly the one that really uh annoyed me to no

00:06:53.940 end was they had i went there to get informed and there's a q a and so uh we're we're allowed to go

00:07:00.420 to the mic and ask questions and one lady instead of just asking a question walked up to the front 0.55

00:07:06.100 of the stage and basically took command of the microphone and started lecturing and and giving 1.00

00:07:12.340 her reason why she didn't want the gravel pit and they went on and on about protecting the children

00:07:17.460 and this and that and it's and and so forth and she was grandstanding and i got annoyed i'm like

00:07:24.020 okay lady sit down like we're not here to listen to you right and then all of a sudden the crowd

00:07:29.860 which was i'll say it demographically very very old right these are the people that are living in 0.65

00:07:35.700 the bear spa area their houses are paid for and they and and you know nimbyism is kicking in they

00:07:41.220 don't want development in their backyard and then when i dared to challenge one of their own

00:07:48.980 a white liberal lady because she was just grandstanding all of a sudden everybody's like 1.00

00:07:57.220 let her speak let her speak and she was annoying and people were annoyed but because i challenged 1.00

00:08:02.100 one of the members of the clan now everybody turned at me and started booing me and giving 0.94

00:08:07.300 her a stand and they literally gave her a standing ovation so anyways i i witnessed all that and it

00:08:14.020 made me realize that that is definitely a common theme in this country right now that um people are

00:08:24.100 crazy entrenched in camps like entrenched entrenched entrenched and to the point and

00:08:31.140 And then huge amounts of cognitive dissonance is setting in.

00:08:35.960 People cannot be challenged.

00:08:38.860 It's becoming impossible to challenge people's ideas and thoughts

00:08:44.420 without them getting upset and fighting back.

00:08:51.720 So it's just an observation that I made on Tuesday.

00:08:56.140 And then the more I talk about it online and with others,

00:08:59.520 the more I see it in day-to-day-to-day-to-day-to-day-to-day.

00:09:04.060 Like, I think we're beyond the point of civil discourse.

00:09:08.820 Like, it's scary what's happening.

00:09:12.380 All right, John, can you confirm then the phone?

00:09:16.080 I don't have anybody calling, but go ahead and call.

00:09:19.520 So let's talk about Carney then in broader sense here.

00:09:25.440 uh on sunday monday he had a um a summit in i don't even know where the summit was i think it

00:09:37.080 was in toronto or someplace like that but in you know invited foreign investors that's a good idea

00:09:42.260 i mean there's nothing wrong with a summit to invite people to come see projects right we used

00:09:48.620 to do this all the time like the the concept of trade delegations and and and so i'm okay with

00:09:54.320 inviting people to come and see what we have to offer i found i found the overall meeting though

00:10:02.520 a bit interesting with the fact that uh you had all the premiers there um really you know applauding

00:10:10.340 carney and and again that's okay they serve their their respective uh provinces and they want to

00:10:16.840 promote the projects but I found Stephen Harper closing the conference to be a bit weird another

00:10:27.060 like his Stephen Harper's change of heart regarding Carney seems to have been rather dramatic because

00:10:34.360 I remember Stephen Harper being a keynote speaker at one of the Pierre Poiliev events during the

00:10:40.380 general election a year and a half ago. And Harper had no kind words for Carney. And then what I

00:10:48.940 found really interesting is some of the projects that were being proposed and some of the money

00:10:54.780 that Carney's trying to attract. He went as far as saying that he wanted to open up four of

00:11:01.980 Canada's major airports, Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, and I believe Calgary, to foreign

00:11:09.500 investment or to investment to more privatization and um i i he got a lot of backlash for that

00:11:18.940 which he should but again it's watching the online mental gymnastics of people applauding it like if

00:11:26.780 if i had asked almost any canadian four years ago would you be in favor of privatizing the airports

00:11:35.500 and risking that the cost of travel could go up further would you be in favor of that i'm pretty

00:11:39.980 sure that four years ago people would have said no no no no no but for whatever reason now whatever

00:11:46.220 carney does these days people are applauding him more than they are than than criticizing him and

00:11:53.420 uh so i don't know what's your thoughts on that folks should airports be more privatized i mean

00:12:00.060 I mean, I'm having a hard time understanding what would be gained by doing that, right?

00:12:07.080 If the idea is that an airport currently, I mean, here's how the airports are managed right now.

00:12:13.720 Airports are on Crown land.

00:12:15.600 So let's pick the Calgary airport.

00:12:17.460 Calgary airport is on Crown land.

00:12:19.060 And then the airport authority, whoever's there, follows federal guidelines, rents the land from Ottawa, and built an airport.

00:12:34.940 So the airport already is privately owned, but it's following rules, but it's privately owned, but it's run as a not-for-profit business.

00:12:44.460 And I think that's the biggest change is that he wants to turn airports into for-profit entities and allow more investment, which would mean that somebody could, in principle, somebody could use an airport and build, I don't know, a better restaurant, an amusement park at the airport and try and get some dollars from people that are transiting through the airport.

00:13:06.140 But if the airport needs to be upsized because there's increased traffic, I think Ottawa could easily spend that money and recover that money through the airport fees that charges.

00:13:18.960 So I don't understand. I don't need to. I just answered my own question.

00:13:23.780 I don't need to understand why Carney makes these kinds of statements.

00:13:26.920 Carney is making all these kinds of statements just to distract, just to appear like he's doing something.

00:13:34.360 And at the end of the day, I'm not fundamentally worried because no matter what the Liberals have been announcing in the last 12 years, they suck at executing on anything.

00:13:45.480 All right, I've got a caller on the line.

00:13:47.140 Before I answer, as usual, name, where are you calling from, what's on your mind?

00:13:51.780 And if you're watching me on your computer or on a TV or something like that, please mute it so that I can hear what you're saying.

00:13:58.220 So go ahead, caller.

00:14:02.720 Hi, my name is Joel.

00:14:04.360 i'm calling from edmonton john i can't hear

00:14:10.920 we're still having a

00:14:14.600 did i lose the caller we'll call him back no i'm here i'm still sorry about that we're still having

00:14:20.360 a bit of technical difficulty are we back all right i'll keep talking um where was i

00:14:33.160 Yeah, so, you know, I have a joke among my friends.

00:14:38.620 Whatever the Liberals announce, short it, right?

00:14:42.400 So if the Liberals announce that they're going to invest in Air Canada, short Air Canada.

00:14:46.440 If they promote something, whatever they promote, short it.

00:14:51.560 And don't worry about it because they are absolutely terrible at any kind of execution.

00:14:56.600 I mean, look at all the promises that have been made by the Liberals in the last year and a half, right?

00:15:02.260 500,000 homes to be built annually. Like we're already stalled on that. I mean, we're less than

00:15:09.960 200,000 housing units starts this year. It's already stalled out. What were some of the

00:15:17.020 other promises? I mean, they keep recycling promises like last week when we talked about

00:15:20.540 the icebreakers. Well, that promise goes back to like 2009. Nothing got built and they made it

00:15:26.400 again. And I don't think anything will be built. I don't even think the rail cars that they said

00:15:30.300 they would build out of thunder bay will get built that's that's how bad they are at executing

00:15:35.340 on stuff uh all right so carney does his uh does this announcement in toronto and then quickly

00:15:41.960 gets on a plane and flies to brussels and uh goes and sits in front of the european union

00:15:50.680 and uh before he gets to speak he gets welcomed now let me i think most of you understand what

00:15:59.100 European Union is but let me just repeat it right so the European Union goes back to like

00:16:06.860 the 1970s like 77 some people think of it as a as a as a modern creation but it's a pretty old

00:16:13.580 creation and it's a it's it's a union so 27 countries belong to the union it started as

00:16:22.060 less than that and then and then they added countries over time and then some have left

00:16:26.140 right everybody's familiar with uh the brits leaving uh the european union uh you know

00:16:33.900 oh i can hear some suddenly i got a buzz in the

00:16:41.660 nope it's gone sorry about the the difficulties folks but it makes it hard to do a radio or a

00:16:48.380 call and show if i can't hear uh what people are asking but so the the eu is is it's more than just

00:16:57.020 countries coming together though because it's countries coming together but it's countries

00:17:00.780 coming together and and building a separate parliament so in europe the european union

00:17:05.980 union has its own parliament and the european and so each member country sends people to the

00:17:14.620 Parliament.

00:17:16.440 Shall we try it again, John?

00:17:17.640 Oh, I can hear something in my...

00:17:19.040 I can hear my voice.

00:17:20.760 Go ahead, caller.

00:17:22.460 How about now?

00:17:23.340 Perfect.

00:17:23.840 Can you hear me now?

00:17:26.660 This is Joel from Edmonton.

00:17:28.820 What's on your mind?

00:17:32.220 Well, I was just thinking about this whole EU business.

00:17:36.040 And our option one voters in this province

00:17:40.080 who want the status quo need to be made clear

00:17:43.420 that there is no status quo anymore no matter what you do because if this really happens

00:17:49.180 the status quo that we have enjoyed is no longer the status quo yes no i 100 agree and and i mean

00:17:58.540 you're you're i was about to go there in my in my speech but if we join the eu uh it's not a trade

00:18:06.460 agreement right we're joining a group and agreeing we'd have to send uh members to the

00:18:12.620 european parliament and then we would have to agree to a new set of rules like the eu dictates

00:18:18.860 rules like um i don't know you know agricultural rules right they dictate the levels of of uh

00:18:27.140 antibodies and cattle stuff like that so we we are already having interference from ottawa and now

00:18:33.880 we're going to join the eu without a vote without even being consulted look at all the the protests

00:18:42.320 in france and and the netherlands from the farmers blockading their parliament buildings

00:18:46.960 and throwing manure everywhere because of the nitrogen regulation right like you want that

00:18:51.560 in rural alberta well you're asking the wrong no i mean it's a rhetorical question no i don't want

00:18:58.560 But it's a great question for people.

00:19:01.280 Do you think if we were to join the EU, let's say Carney succeeds, what does that do for independence?

00:19:08.120 Do you think that helps?

00:19:09.080 Do you think that brings a few more people, opens more eyes?

00:19:12.460 Or does it make Carney look like a hero?

00:19:16.160 What do you think?

00:19:19.060 I think it just entrenches the sidekeeper.

00:19:21.800 I think the independence-minded people will be more firm in that resolve because we're not European.

00:19:30.260 And the people that want to stay as a part of Canada, I think, are already kind of okay with the Europe thing because a lot of them just have Trump derangement syndrome.

00:19:41.100 Right.

00:19:41.980 Trump is only here for two more years.

00:19:44.280 It boggles the mind that we can't just find a deal and then renegotiate it in two years when he's done.

00:19:51.460 We can't just get something on the paper.

00:19:53.900 Yeah, or at the very least just wait him out and don't do anything, right?

00:19:57.540 I mean, we could have just waited out Trump if we wanted.

00:20:01.480 I don't know.

00:20:02.600 Trump is kind of pushing the issue because there's a lot of irritants on their side.

00:20:06.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:06.700 You know, like our dumping of Chinese steel products and the forest border and the drug trafficking 0.76

00:20:11.480 and the Chinese money laundering and the military cooperation and the police cooperation with China

00:20:17.500 and all the stuff that's annoying them, right?

00:20:20.120 They were putting the tariffs on to get us to come to the table and start resolving some of those irritants.

00:20:27.000 And instead, we've given them a double middle finger and are trying to talk with the European Union.

00:20:33.600 Like, this is not a good long-term strategy at all.

00:20:37.120 I appreciate the call. I'll put you down as a not in favor of the EU.

00:20:44.960 Cheers. All right, thanks.

00:20:47.640 Okay, cheers.

00:20:50.120 Yeah. You took parts of my speech, but I'll just finish what I was saying. So the EU is more than a simple economic union of people that agree to do trade with each other. It's not a free trade zone. The European Union goes farther.

00:21:09.120 It's a it's a it's a second. I mean, it's a for us, it would now mean almost like a fourth level of government. Can you imagine? I got I live in Rocky View County. I got the Rocky View County. I got my provincial government. Ottawa is my federal government. And now I'm going to have my European Union Parliament. Like I'm going to have four levels. And am I going to have to pay taxes to the EU as part of this? Because in Europe, they do pay taxes to the EU. I mean, these organizations don't fund themselves. Right.

00:21:37.960 And so, and we're a member of the UN and we're a member of NATO

00:21:41.660 and we're a member of all these places, all these organizations that make rules on our behalf.

00:21:46.180 But sticking to the EU, so the EU is more than just the free trade zone.

00:21:51.480 They have their own government that passes environmental laws and agricultural laws

00:21:55.920 and labor laws and things like that.

00:21:57.880 So, like I said, I gave the example of cattle,

00:22:00.900 but the European Parliament could pass a law that says, you know,

00:22:05.700 We want whatever, 50% electric cars on the roads by such and such a date.

00:22:12.920 So that scares me that it's potentially a fourth level of government.

00:22:18.900 And then the EU does other things like they share a currency,

00:22:23.940 which is why Britain wanted to leave, which is why Norway never joined.

00:22:30.260 I'll come back.

00:22:31.260 Maybe we found a topic that's interesting for people.

00:22:34.020 Go ahead, call in, Amy, and what's on your mind?

00:22:37.700 Hey, Marty, it's Diane from Devon.

00:22:39.720 How are you?

00:22:40.320 Hi, Diane.

00:22:41.140 Good.

00:22:41.420 How are you?

00:22:43.340 I'm good.

00:22:46.220 The European Union represents the new world order,

00:22:52.620 and that's what they're drawing us into.

00:22:57.640 Yes.

00:22:58.120 And the WEF and Agenda 2030 and everything with it. 1.00

00:23:04.020 And Trudeau, he was too stupid. He was a bumbling idiot. But he was said to do that job. And Carney is, he's a smart man. And he's a master at this. And a good liar. 1.00

00:23:20.020 Yeah, yeah. And I agree. And especially if you think about it this way, too, right? If Canada joins the EU, which way are the benefits flowing? Is Canada benefiting or is the EU benefiting? Which one do you think benefits most? 0.94

00:23:39.120 the eu because they're getting us away from the united states and the united states dollar

00:23:47.080 and donald trump and so on and so forth and that's why because they don't want us with trump

00:23:55.260 because trump i i said this before on your show trump is a stumbling block that they've been

00:24:01.480 trying to get rid of for 10 years and they didn't expect him to be to be um elected

00:24:10.200 and there the even the deal the trade deal we had with trump there was no effort put into that and

00:24:17.160 then when there was possibly one it was just called off for nefarious reasons that none of

00:24:23.720 us even know or we didn't see the trade deal or whatever yeah no we're on the same page

00:24:31.480 A hundred percent. We already knew we were on the same page, but that's a hundred percent.

00:24:34.920 And I just want to say two, two little things. Um, the, the, the Canadian, the, sorry, the liberal

00:24:42.800 party has been masterful in the media manipulation of people's minds. And last week I went to get

00:24:51.700 an oil change and I said to the guy at the desk, I said, um, gee, it's not very busy in here.

00:25:00.420 and he goes yeah he said we don't really like chaos like donald trump that's what he said to

00:25:06.420 me and i just looked at him i thought not not even talking about politics then i went to the

00:25:11.060 grocery store and i said to the girl at the self-checkout i said something about um the price

00:25:17.000 of beef or something and she said yeah we have donald trump to blame oh my god so those of us

00:25:22.820 who are on the side we're on you and i and then there's all these other people that their mind

00:25:28.280 is just consumed they can't even have a conversation without bringing him into it

00:25:34.200 it's and it's crazy right trump derangement syndrome i mean i i i used um artificial i used

00:25:41.000 ai you know chat gpt and i said is there any other example of of trump derangement syndrome and it's

00:25:47.000 like none there's no no no other politician anywhere in the world has ever done what trump

00:25:52.520 does people who've never met him people who can't even single out a single one of his policies

00:25:58.280 hate the man and are willing to blame everything on him it's bonkers

00:26:03.000 absolutely and that's that's what the problem is so we have and you're i just listened to what

00:26:09.620 you were saying about going to the town hall and trying to be reasonable with people who can't be

00:26:14.120 reasonable with people and you know what i'm 65 and i already told you that before it's my age

00:26:20.620 group they're crazy we're shooting the finger at people and being so vulgar and disrespectful

00:26:27.000 unbelievable that like how they treat the um the alberta separatist people that are out and about 0.90

00:26:35.220 how how rude and mean they are to them and it's my age group and i got grandkids i got granddaughters

00:26:43.580 and i'm worried about their future because they are not going to have anywhere near to the future

00:26:51.400 that I have been very fortunate to have.

00:26:55.240 Wow.

00:26:56.160 And I will end it on that note.

00:26:58.260 No, no.

00:27:00.080 Thank you.

00:27:02.160 Thanks for a voice of common sense.

00:27:03.980 And you just remind me of one thing, too.

00:27:06.520 The, you know, like the vandalism that we're seeing of the signs.

00:27:09.800 Some people are being caught vandalizing signs and stuff like that

00:27:13.320 on both sides, on both sides.

00:27:14.960 And it's not kids, right?

00:27:16.420 It's not teenagers running around with spray paint.

00:27:18.760 It's older people.

00:27:20.020 like you said it's bonkers it's my age group yeah it's retirees like i'm at the end as a boomer so

00:27:27.480 i'm kind of uh like i kind of grew up like a gen x or two i'm at the end of the boomers i'm not an

00:27:33.760 old like an old boomer but that but it is my age group it is it is i'm considered a boomer

00:27:40.340 and i'm like are you even kidding me like grow up and act your age it's craziness insane all right

00:27:46.640 I don't understand.

00:27:47.860 Yeah.

00:27:48.300 Thanks for calling, Diane.

00:27:49.360 Always good to hear from you.

00:27:50.720 Yeah.

00:27:51.420 Cheers.

00:27:51.940 Take good care of yourself.

00:27:52.960 All right.

00:27:53.200 Thanks.

00:27:53.660 Bye.

00:27:54.820 Well, everybody's finished my thoughts on, but I'll finish my thoughts on EU, right?

00:27:59.800 So it's joining, like I said last week, if you try and take the pieces, and just like Diane says,

00:28:12.220 If you take the evidence and you look at evidence, at events, right, if I look at speeches and rules and things that governments have done and politicians have done, and I'm trying to figure out where are they going with this, I can't get to it.

00:28:25.760 The evidence doesn't lead to, you know, I'm following a trail, but I can't see where the trail goes.

00:28:30.860 But if I do something different, if I start with the end goal and if I start with, like she mentioned, Agenda 2030 or some of these other, you know, a new world order, if I start with that and then I go backwards, now all of a sudden the evidence point, you know, fits.

00:28:50.300 So joining the EU falls exactly under that.

00:28:54.760 But as it stands right now, Canada has a trade agreement with Europe.

00:29:03.120 I can't remember what it's called, like CETA, C-E-T-A or something like that.

00:29:06.940 John, I don't know if you can look it up or if somebody can, like it's the, it's a weird name.

00:29:10.800 It doesn't exactly stand for, you know, it's not like the European Free Trade Agreement.

00:29:14.980 We've been trying to get a European Free Trade Agreement for about a decade and we don't have one, but we have something else.

00:29:20.420 So we do have an agreement.

00:29:22.440 and consequently we can trade with europe in 90 you you got something there john uh comprehensive

00:29:31.880 economic and trade agreements yeah okay so i had the acronym correct so it does exist we have

00:29:37.280 something and so any trade we do with europe currently is tariff free there's no tariffs

00:29:44.440 but so why would we need to join the eu to there's no benefit to joining the eu we don't want to i

00:29:51.540 I certainly don't want to share their currency.

00:29:56.240 Got a caller on the line.

00:29:57.520 Okay, we're not going to interrupt the callers.

00:29:59.140 Let's have fun with the folks.

00:30:00.440 Go ahead, caller.

00:30:01.020 Where are you calling from?

00:30:01.760 What's on your mind?

00:30:05.200 Hello, Mr. Marty.

00:30:06.660 This is Neil calling from Exwell.

00:30:09.540 How are you?

00:30:12.720 I am wonderful.

00:30:14.180 So I'm just watching a private parade for me as the cows are moving past my property.

00:30:24.120 I don't know how I can, I can barely hear you.

00:30:30.260 Can you do a little adjustment?

00:30:32.260 I don't know, put your ticket off speaker or something.

00:30:36.600 I can barely hear you.

00:30:37.800 Oh, yeah, very choppy.

00:30:41.560 I have earbuds in.

00:30:44.180 Okay, sorry, that caller can call back. I don't know what it is. Some people have, on your cell phone, don't put it on speaker. Just, you know, hold it up to your ear.

00:30:59.520 um so back to the back to the eu so we have no advantage to joining the eu okay none whatsoever

00:31:07.600 other than extra regulations and uh maybe it would be a shared currency down the road but i i don't

00:31:14.500 want to share a currency with them uh uh if if there was a currency i'd be interested in sharing

00:31:19.100 it'd be the american one not not the european one so we already have a trade agreement so and

00:31:24.220 And then this is the other part that scares me, is that when you look, Carney's been talking about diversifying our trade with Europe, okay?

00:31:34.180 We do, don't quote me exactly on the numbers, but we do about $700 to $800 billion worth of trade worldwide, Canada does, and 70% of it is with the U.S., okay?

00:31:49.060 70% is with the US, and then we've got a good chunk with China and Mexico, and then the rest

00:31:53.740 is scattered around the world. In Europe, our biggest trade partner in Europe is England. And

00:32:02.260 before I go to that, when it comes to trading with Europe, we're in a trade deficit, okay? So

00:32:09.160 with the Americans, we send them like $300 billion worth of goods, or sorry, $500 billion worth of

00:32:15.360 goods and we buy back from them like 300 billion so we're we're in a net positive with the americans

00:32:20.640 with europe we're in a negative okay we buy more from europe than we sell to them so we don't sell

00:32:27.780 them a lot of minerals and stuff like that but we buy financial services and cars from germany

00:32:33.380 and food from france and and you know beer from ireland and stuff like that there's only one

00:32:39.740 country in europe with whom we have a positive trade um balance and that's not even an eu country

00:32:48.780 that's the uk so with england we sell more to them than we buy from them which you'd think is

00:32:56.180 good on pay on on the surface until you dig into it and then you realize what are we selling to the

00:33:01.980 uk gold we're selling them gold and what are we getting in return for their gold devalued paper

00:33:09.260 currency. So if Carney thinks that joining the EU is just going to improve or make them want to

00:33:16.980 trade more with us, to be determined, to be seen, but there's nothing that indicates that that

00:33:24.760 would happen. So I only see some really negative upside to the EU. Again, unless you think about

00:33:34.740 in in the end game and there's two end games if it's necessary for if if if um 20 agenda 2030 is

00:33:43.000 a reality so joining the eu pushes towards that and then the other end game is what's happening

00:33:48.620 at home if you want to piss off donald trump even further than imposing counter tariffs on him and

00:33:56.780 and mocking him and everything else then you sign a deal with europe which will aggravate donald trump

00:34:01.740 And Donald Trump bit. Again, this escalated. So this week he signed another executive order. As I hinted at last week, he has now formally banned government, U.S. government agencies from buying Canadian goods.

00:34:19.780 so um the the u.s government cannot buy bombardier jets the they cannot buy bombardier snowmobiles

00:34:28.340 they can't buy boats from us ammunition from us uh food from us so that's not it's a it's an it's

00:34:36.160 an interesting way around the tariff i don't know how much uh u.s how much goods the american

00:34:41.540 government consumes but i'm gonna guess it's in the trillions of dollars and if a lot of it came

00:34:46.120 from canada that's it that's a big hit for us so um anyways i think i think we killed the eu uh

00:34:54.360 discussion but i i had to talk about it because it is on the news and it's been interesting to

00:35:00.040 watch people do their mental gymnastics trying to justify joining the eu when when in fact there

00:35:06.440 was nothing stopping us from doing trade with the eu we have a great agreement with them we can

00:35:11.400 trade with any country we want but we just haven't and um and and by the way it's very interesting

00:35:17.800 also to like i said not every country is in the eu right the uk dropped out norway never joined

00:35:25.320 norway never joined and i think that in the alberta context that's really important because

00:35:29.080 norway is often mentioned as an example of what alberta could be like right they're they're almost

00:35:33.880 identical in size and population uh economies are based on the same things but norway does

00:35:40.680 far better than us and people at the end of the day say that the big overwhelming difference

00:35:44.600 between Norway and Alberta is that Norway is not landlocked that's valid that's a good one

00:35:50.120 I wish we weren't landlocked but so Norway is not in the EU and then other some very rich countries

00:35:56.520 right Switzerland Liechtenstein none of the Russian former Russian satellite states are in the EU

00:36:03.560 neither is Iceland and a few others so we'll see where this goes on the plus side Carney said that

00:36:12.520 before committing us to the EU he would bring it to parliament and have it debated again he's got

00:36:19.440 a majority in parliament is this something real I don't know all right so what was the other story

00:36:24.900 last week I wanted to talk about closer to home wanted to talk a little bit about the Calgary

00:36:32.100 shaw by-election on monday i was a little surprised john do you have a chart real quick

00:36:39.880 that can show uh the results but uh so i watched it the voting occurred um monday the polls closed

00:36:48.060 at 8 p.m and then elections alberta had their website and the data started coming in the data

00:36:53.680 didn't fully come in until about 10 o'clock it was pretty quick two hours to count and i was

00:36:59.120 actually plotting as the night was progressing so right off the bat as soon as the polls closed the

00:37:05.840 first thing that elections alberta published was the uh what they call the special ballots

00:37:12.960 so those are the the mail-in ones basically and uh there was something like 900 mail-in ballots

00:37:23.440 and immediately right out of the gate the ndp led after just the mail-in ballots like it was

00:37:30.400 something like 600 to 300 so pretty big uh gap right out of the gate so on paper uh in the mail-in

00:37:39.120 ballots the um yeah scroll down please john to the very the mail-in ballots are at the very bottom

00:37:46.160 It's the last ones. There they are. So mail-in ballots was, oh, special ballots. You have it right there. Actually, it was less than I thought. 279, 111. So 279 for the NDP, 111 for the UCP. So 430 special ballots. Those are basically the mail-in ones.

00:38:05.860 And then after that, I started plotting as the as the different polling stations were reporting in.

00:38:14.180 And you could see that by by by the time about 50 percent of the polling stations had reported, the overall count had flipped and the conservative was in the lead.

00:38:24.260 And then the conservative maintained the lead right until all 70, all 68 polling stations were reported.

00:38:34.140 Got a caller on the line.

00:38:35.240 Let's go to the caller.

00:38:36.100 Go ahead.

00:38:36.480 Where are you calling from?

00:38:37.300 Your name, please?

00:38:40.840 Good afternoon.

00:38:41.920 Mr. Marty, can you hear me?

00:38:44.340 Yes, I can.

00:38:45.100 Now I can hear you.

00:38:48.300 Okay.

00:38:48.780 There is a bit of a time lapse delay in our speaking.

00:38:53.240 Okay.

00:38:53.680 Go ahead.

00:38:53.980 What's on your mind?

00:38:57.060 Okay.

00:38:57.420 One of the previous callers, since I got called away,

00:39:01.660 was mentioning the boomer era I am also coming up to 17 years and I have noticed that within my

00:39:13.480 circle of acquaintances those who are in this age group if they've had no computer skills in their

00:39:23.620 life they solely depend on all their information from media from cbc ctv global i also have found

00:39:36.420 that entering into any discussion with them they are immediately closed off they have no open window

00:39:45.060 to discuss whatsoever yeah that's um oh did i lose the caller john or are you still there

00:39:53.620 i'm still here okay okay no um yeah i i mean that's that's valid i yes that's valid i i agree

00:40:03.780 that the you know older canadians are getting their information on on on the mainstream media

00:40:09.940 on the cbc and stuff like that but there's i think there's something else too right i mean they're

00:40:16.260 They're perhaps they're more nostalgic.

00:40:21.200 I think nostalgia is another part of it, right?

00:40:24.060 They're very nostalgic for Canada was a great country, right?

00:40:27.380 I think it was a great country.

00:40:29.140 Like if you were a boomer and you were a young adult, like let's say 35, 40, that was in the 1970s, right?

00:40:36.880 Like how wonderful was Canada in those days?

00:40:39.720 And so I think that's part of it, right?

00:40:42.300 they're just hanging on to a past that doesn't exist does that make sense

00:40:50.220 absolutely makes sense which is a wonderful segue into my other points to ponder i observed

00:40:59.500 that during the season of 2020 that there seemed to be this hypnotic trance that covered the whole

00:41:09.500 And when you think about it, all of the media in all of the countries were in alignment, parenting the same phrases over and over and over.

00:41:22.560 But when you actually think about it, when people go to an entertainer who is a hypnotist, he will repeat, or she will repeat words over and over and over to put them into that trance.

00:41:38.440 We watch them get up on stage, we watch them cluck, we watch them park, we watch them do whatever.

00:41:45.840 But the only person who can bring them out of that tent is the person who puts them into the tent.

00:41:53.300 The media has not made the effort to bring anybody out of the tent.

00:41:59.240 And people are still where you're not.

00:42:02.820 Keep your feet.

00:42:04.260 Wash your tongue.

00:42:05.660 It hasn't been right out of the trance, and I think that's why we see what we're seeing.

00:42:11.360 Yeah, okay.

00:42:12.580 Thanks for ponder.

00:42:13.780 All right, thanks for the comment.

00:42:16.720 Fully agree, fully agree.

00:42:18.280 Thank you.

00:42:18.860 Yeah, yeah, thank you.

00:42:20.580 Yeah, that one was a little choppy. 0.83

00:42:22.220 I don't know if the viewers were able to hear all of it, but yeah, it's easy to blame boomers.

00:42:29.720 I get a lot of flack for that online.

00:42:32.960 I'm not a boomer.

00:42:34.040 i'm on the tail like i'm i was born in 67 and and the the generation x is generally considered you

00:42:40.600 know 1965 to 1980 and uh and then i'm not the i'm not the son of boomers either my parents are

00:42:48.920 my parents were born in the during the war so um uh and and i've been very critical of the boomers

00:42:57.160 and people people always ask me why i'm critical of them and and my criticism of a lot of boomers

00:43:03.800 is simply their inability to have some introspection

00:43:07.940 and to be able to think broadly.

00:43:10.420 Like one of the number one complaints I hear about Boomer, 1.00

00:43:14.300 that I have with Boomers, 1.00

00:43:15.600 is how they absolutely insist on the fact

00:43:18.120 that they think they had it harder than anybody else.

00:43:22.700 And I'm like, just because you didn't have a cell phone

00:43:26.660 when you were in your 30s or whatever

00:43:28.460 is not a sign of hardship.

00:43:30.600 Like, and, and, and, and, and then they insist that everything that they have, they worked hard. And I'm like, everybody worked hard. Everybody had hardship. Everybody, like, and it's a criticism of every generation criticizes other generations. I get that. But the boomers have a certain way of, to me, beyond any other generation, like, I mean, they, they cannot be introspective.

00:43:57.980 And the one thing they always bring up that annoys me is that, oh, they lived to 18% interest rates. For what? For four or five years, you had 18% interest rates back when a house cost you $40,000, a car cost you $3,000, and your salary was $27,000. Like, seriously.

00:44:14.820 And so that's my criticism of boomers is can you just simply admit and I'm glad I had two ladies call and and and be critical of their of the rest of their cohort. 0.94

00:44:27.200 Like it's it's not a lot to ask to do some introspection and realize that maybe maybe you have had it good. 0.98

00:44:33.740 I mean, I think the future of, like, if you were 24 years old in 1980 compared to being 24 years old in 2026, it's a completely different future, man.

00:44:52.100 Like, completely different future.

00:44:54.020 Anyways, we're going to run out of time, which is crazy.

00:44:57.540 So I just would go back to the. So let me finish on the election, because I actually wanted to talk about the by-election a bit. But so the elections, as the pollings came in, the conservative took the lead. And then all of a sudden the last polling station officially is all the advanced votes. Because now you don't just vote on the Monday, right? You can vote for like days leading to the election.

00:45:20.260 And when they revealed that number, all the pre-election votes, boom, the writing flipped again and the NDP won it by whatever, 500 votes.

00:45:30.420 So you got on the day of the election, you have a trend.

00:45:34.220 So all the voting on the day of the election favoured the Conservatives.

00:45:39.100 All the voting by special ballots and advanced voting favoured the NDP by a large margin.

00:45:46.920 And my question to people was simply this.

00:45:52.320 Was this just an anomaly?

00:45:54.660 Is this always how it's going to be?

00:45:56.580 Like, you know, that the left is very good at mobilizing people to do the advanced voting and the special ballots.

00:46:06.260 But more generally speaking, are you shocked by the election results?

00:46:11.660 Is this just what, because it's common during, it's a common way for people to send a message to the politicians, right?

00:46:20.520 So was this just the way, because if you look at it, it kind of appears as if the Conservatives didn't go out and vote, okay?

00:46:27.020 The UCP didn't go out and vote nearly as much because this writing was a big, strong Conservative writing in the last couple of elections.

00:46:35.480 Now, mind you, Calgary Shaw is in the very far south end of Calgary, and it's where it's where the city's growing. And I think the the immigration population in Calgary Shaw is about 30 to 40 percent.

00:46:50.460 So it's not the same demographics as a decade ago.

00:46:55.020 It's an area that's had a lot of, you know, cheap housing build up. 0.89

00:47:01.060 But is this a message for Danielle Smith that the Conservatives are a little pissed off?

00:47:09.040 Or is this a message that Nenshi is popular and his message is resonating?

00:47:14.920 And is this a legitimate win for the NDP?

00:47:18.900 I don't know how to call this one.

00:47:22.740 At the end of the day, I do worry.

00:47:25.000 I'm on the record of saying this.

00:47:27.160 I don't like the fact that we have special ballots

00:47:31.840 that don't require a special reason to get, right?

00:47:36.300 So in the good old days, if you wanted a special ballot,

00:47:39.840 you had to apply for one and say, I'll be out of the country.

00:47:42.980 Either I'm doing military service or I'm studying overseas.

00:47:45.860 or even if you had a vacation plan,

00:47:48.500 you needed to know well in advance

00:47:51.160 that you weren't going to be in the country.

00:47:55.640 Today, you can just apply for a special ballot like that

00:47:58.660 and they don't ask you why, they just send it to you.

00:48:01.500 And already in terms of the upcoming referendum,

00:48:06.300 Elections Alberta is already saying

00:48:07.740 something like 200,000 special ballots

00:48:09.840 have been mailed out, given to people.

00:48:12.600 Doesn't mean that they're going to vote and return them.

00:48:14.400 I guess it's pretty complicated, right?

00:48:15.700 If you get your special ballot for the referendum,

00:48:17.960 you're getting 10 sheets of paper in there.

00:48:20.520 So you have to vote on all 10s.

00:48:22.360 You have to, you also have to, I don't know if you,

00:48:24.500 I haven't done it myself.

00:48:25.580 I think Corey Morgan did it or somebody else did it.

00:48:28.180 Maybe you guys can let me know.

00:48:30.700 But apparently you have to provide proof of identification.

00:48:34.340 And I think you have to actually mail in your birth certificate

00:48:37.100 or something like that.

00:48:39.180 And then you get it back later.

00:48:40.960 It seems some people have said it's a little bit complicated.

00:48:43.620 So I'm glad.

00:48:44.480 I'm glad at least it's a little bit complicated, but I'm still concerned by the fact that so many people have requested them.

00:48:51.560 I see a lot of opportunities for cheating.

00:48:54.560 Some people say, how can you cheat?

00:48:55.900 I'm like, well, there's no scrutineer.

00:48:59.060 I'm, you know, like when you're voting in public, you still get your ID checked by somebody and then you're walking into a box.

00:49:06.500 And I know that when you're in the box, you're there alone.

00:49:08.840 You're not being harassed.

00:49:11.200 You're not being paid or whatever.

00:49:12.820 and there is there is some some scrutineering and when you're done completing your ballot

00:49:18.040 i uh scrutineers can witness you putting it in the box so there's a lot of controls there that

00:49:24.480 are not there when uh with all these mail-in ballots i'm not seeing what people are doing

00:49:30.120 in their kitchen and then i'm not seeing i don't think there's scrutinizing that's happening when

00:49:34.500 all these ballots are being received so that's that's a big gap in there so much so and and

00:49:40.120 And I guess, you know, just last week, coincidentally, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down mail-in ballot restrictions.

00:49:53.080 So Donald Trump tried to get mail-in ballots, whatever, restricted because we've seen this pattern.

00:50:03.280 The pattern at the U.S. election, two elections ago, the Joe Biden election, had the similar pattern.

00:50:08.340 when you when you plot what happened with um with calgary shaw like when you plot the two trends

00:50:15.260 you got the ucp and the ndp you know neck and neck and all of a sudden boom a big flip at the

00:50:20.600 end when a bunch of mail-in ballots are are revealed and the same thing happened in the

00:50:24.980 joe biden election there's a there's a famous image a graph that people often share with that

00:50:29.920 Anyways, Trump, in preparation for his upcoming midterms, tried to get that curtailed a bit, and he was unsuccessful.

00:50:42.840 The Supreme Court voted it down, rejected it, saying, you know, basically mail-in ballots are constitutional.

00:50:51.180 They are. I'm sure they are.

00:50:52.480 But like I said, I wish you needed to have a reason to get one.

00:50:56.980 um okay uh where are we at here what the what am i doing for time i got i can't tell what i got for

00:51:07.060 time i got one clock that says i got 10 minutes okay i got lots of time all right well let's talk

00:51:12.060 a little bit uh let's talk a little bit about uh independence then i guess it's uh the clock is

00:51:17.960 ticking less the october 19th is about uh just over 30 days from now and yesterday we had another

00:51:28.680 another report this time from the ufc because a lot of people have been asking what's it going

00:51:33.880 to cost for an independent alberta right and so alberta prosperity project presented something

00:51:40.520 keith wilson has his own group that presented something different different academic groups

00:51:46.840 have presented and the government that danielle smith was on the record saying i think it'll be

00:51:51.160 400 000 or 400 billion and yesterday it was the university of calgary uh put out their report

00:51:59.240 and uh i not gonna lie i didn't have time to read their report but again it's another one that they

00:52:06.040 have a high-end estimate like uh in the in the 200 billion dollar or maybe uh is that the one yeah

00:52:12.600 a $200 billion range to form our own country.

00:52:19.140 Again, I have no idea how they can come up to these numbers.

00:52:23.340 Like if it's $200 billion to form our own country,

00:52:26.940 that would imply that we are currently getting $200 billion worth of services from Ottawa.

00:52:34.080 Like the math just doesn't pass my test.

00:52:36.640 So I'll have to read that one.

00:52:38.880 Let's make that probably the topic of next week's show.

00:52:41.820 We got to talk a bit more about these costs.

00:52:47.180 But I just want to talk about it, though.

00:52:51.080 We've said this before.

00:52:53.340 A vote next week or next month, option two, let's say.

00:52:58.160 Option two is, well, let's put it the other way.

00:53:01.960 Option one is a vote for the status quo, okay?

00:53:04.420 So if you vote for option one next week,

00:53:06.440 you are voting for absolutely everything to stay the same way

00:53:09.880 that it's been for 121 years.

00:53:11.620 So you're basically saying that paying, that being ignored by Ottawa is okay, that the fact that there's, you know, that your vote doesn't matter, that on election night at 8 p.m. when the polls close here, you already know the results because Eastern Canada has voted.

00:53:30.760 You're okay with that.

00:53:32.520 You're okay with your CPP payments, overpayments going to fund

00:53:38.720 to subsidize people in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick.

00:53:42.280 You're okay with your employment insurance benefits subsidizing somebody over there.

00:53:47.560 You're okay with gun bans.

00:53:49.260 You're okay with everything that's happened for the last 121 years. 0.52

00:53:53.600 As far as you're concerned, Confederation is just perfect, peachy fine,

00:53:57.600 and so you're going to vote for option one.

00:53:59.580 And by the way, if you vote for option one on October 19th, what do you think Carney's going to do the next day, right?

00:54:06.460 Like he's worried about our referendum.

00:54:09.100 And so he's signing the MOU and he's throwing a lot of carrots our way.

00:54:13.740 But if we vote option one on the 19th, what do you think he's going to do?

00:54:18.920 He's going to say, well, Albertans are easy.

00:54:21.840 They don't want any change.

00:54:23.700 And I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing.

00:54:25.520 So back to electric vehicle mandates, back to net zero, back to emission caps, back to all of that.

00:54:33.440 So, but if you vote for option two, you're voting at this point to send a message to Ottawa and you're voting for us to, for Danielle Smith to start working on a proper referendum.

00:54:47.640 And if we start working on that, then we need that, that better plan of what it's going to look like in the future.

00:54:53.460 But I'm still glad that groups have put forth these plans.

00:54:57.820 I will study them in detail in the coming days, and we'll talk about it more next week.

00:55:03.080 But the idea that an independent Alberta would have to spend about $200 to $400 billion is ridiculous.

00:55:10.400 I mean, we've said this before.

00:55:11.700 The day after a referendum vote, it's business as usual.

00:55:15.240 We have to start negotiating with Ottawa on the separation.

00:55:20.180 They owe us $335 billion.

00:55:22.260 That's our share of the CPP.

00:55:24.620 We owe them our share of the debt, so we negotiate that.

00:55:28.760 We buy the airports, we buy the national parks,

00:55:31.900 and then we sign up to some temporary agreements like we'll keep using their currency

00:55:39.400 or maybe we use the American currency.

00:55:41.820 Do I need to go out overnight and build Alberta embassies all over the world?

00:55:47.580 No, I don't.

00:55:48.380 So I can't see why these big numbers.

00:55:51.200 all right i got one more call you probably the last call this afternoon how are uh where are

00:55:56.300 you calling from what's your name please uh-oh oh did you just hang him up john

00:56:04.220 or he hung up by accident uh i don't have a clock on my screen john i got about five minutes right

00:56:13.900 I, um, four minutes. Okay. Four minutes. Um, what? All right. So anyways, my, my simple,

00:56:24.500 you know, um, think of it that way, really think about that. So, uh, option two, you've got nothing

00:56:31.140 to lose by voting for option two on October 19th. And right now the best thing you can do,

00:56:37.100 well, apparently is to get a mail-in ballot. That's the other side is getting a bunch of

00:56:42.260 mail-in ballots but make sure you get out and vote but the most important thing you can do on that

00:56:46.100 day is call your kids call your neighbors call somebody and get them out to vote even if you

00:56:51.980 think they might not be voting the way we want to get them out to vote like go out and vote uh in

00:56:58.060 the referendum and uh it's it's just that important this could be one of the most important referendum

00:57:04.260 most important elections as an albertan right like i've said it how many times do does our vote not

00:57:10.140 count in a federal election well this one could be one of the most significant votes of your life

00:57:15.900 so don't don't uh don't miss out on that one um i was going to talk a bit about the the u.s

00:57:23.480 into the canadian interest rate that was another quick story i'm rushing right now sorry the rush

00:57:28.560 um canada uh the governor of the bank of canada kept the interest rate at uh 2.75 didn't increase

00:57:38.980 it. There hasn't been an increase now in a year and a bit. He brought it down and he's not going

00:57:43.880 down or he's been bringing it up slowly. Concurrently in the U.S., the Americans

00:57:50.080 increased their interest rate from 3.75 to 4 percent. And the governor of the central bank

00:57:57.180 in the U.S. cited higher inflation, a smoking hot economy and other reasons. And so he's trying to

00:58:06.040 cool down inflation and cool down the economy ever so slightly. And if Carney's pushing the

00:58:13.320 same argument, he's saying we have a good economy and the inflation numbers are pretty high, but

00:58:18.840 he's asking for lower interest rates. So which side is telling the truth? But I think in the

00:58:25.720 coming, in the next Canadian interest rate adjustment, we'll have no choice. It'll have

00:58:29.960 to go up to match what's going on in the u.s um all right well i'm i'm i'm out of ideas folks

00:58:37.900 we we we exhausted the uh eu topic thanks for calling in folks thanks for calling in

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Western Standard - September 17, 2026

Is Carney flirting with the EU a good idea？

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