00:00:00.000Good day. Today is September 9th, 2026. I'm Derek Fildebrand, publisher of the Western
00:00:29.220Standard, and you're watching the pipeline. I've got our usual crew here today, Western Standard
00:00:34.100News Editor Dave Naylor. Present. Senior Columnist Nigel Hannaford. Good evening. And Senior Columnist
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00:01:30.400All right, we're going to be talking about the rise of the right in Europe,
00:01:37.360particularly with news coming from Sachsen-Anhalt,
00:01:40.400the election in a relatively small German state,
00:01:43.860making news across the world, making news here in Canada.
00:01:48.600The reverberations of that are being felt everywhere, including here at home.0.94
00:01:54.240We're going to talk about the trade war, making everyone look like an idiot, what's happening, the tit-for-tat, what can, if Canada, if anything, do.0.93
00:02:06.540But first we're going to start with news that the federal Conservatives have launched Conservatives for Canada,0.96
00:02:14.820a political action committee and advertiser for Conservative MPs
00:02:20.660to get involved in the election, sorry, in the referendum campaign
00:02:24.400on Alberta independence that's taking place October 19th.
00:02:28.240Corey, tell us about Conservatives for Canada and what they're doing.
00:02:33.400Yeah, so all this is a new third-party group,
00:02:35.920so it is, I guess, supposed to be kind of arms linked from the Federal Party,
00:02:39.160but it is a branch of the Federal Party.
00:02:40.600It's the Federal Conservatives have set this up.
00:02:43.740they're fundraising for it i haven't seen much evidence of an actual campaign dean lloyd is a
00:02:49.040member of parliament with them he's the the head of this this group and their mandate is to convince
00:02:56.400albertans to choose option one on october 19th they're wading into provincial politics which
00:03:01.400i'm sure we'll talk about but i think it's a bit of a gamble on their part actually for their
00:03:06.420alberta supporters on something that's split particularly among conservative ones so i've seen
00:03:12.860on social media, we've seen a number of the Conservative MPs who put out sort of canned
00:03:17.540statements about how they should vote option one and that they're forever Canadian and things such
00:03:22.060as that. And they haven't been terribly well received on social media, though I know that's
00:03:25.400not always the best measure of, you know, support or whatnot. It's kind of anecdotal. But among
00:03:30.420Conservative followers, they're not necessarily getting a good reception. But I think Pierre
00:03:35.200Paulyev really wants to signal to central Canada, we're not supporting this independence push in
00:03:41.980Alberta we're federalists reunified and darn it we're going to make sure that we wear that Canadian
00:03:46.280flag uh it's a similar problem he's got as Daniel Smith in a sense your own support base might have
00:03:52.720a bit of a lean towards that but when you're looking at a broader election you gotta watch
00:03:56.600where you're gonna think with Mr. Poliari is the leader of the party and that's what he thinks he
00:04:00.540could say that he could that's my question why Dane Lloyd no offense to him but he is Dane Lloyd
00:04:24.880I'm just wondering why they picked an obscure MP that nobody's ever heard of.
00:04:28.860So that if this does blow up, it doesn't land on Poliev's lap.
00:04:31.940I think it's because the majority of people who vote conservative federally and provincially in Alberta are, if polls would be correct, when you break it down by party supporters, majority of people who vote conservative are also voting for independence.
00:04:48.120The Conservatives need to be seen, particularly outside of Alberta, as not in with that, but they don't want to actively antagonize their voter base, which is why the Conservatives are doing this perfunctory campaign on the Federalist side, but doing the absolute minimum to not be seen, in Alberta at least, as being involved, because it's antagonizing their voters.
00:05:13.540um that's why we've not been able to find a single conservative mp willing to debate me or anyone
00:05:20.900else on independence uh they've got these kind of canned statements as you've said that have all
00:05:26.940gone out uh and some of them are from people i know are federalists some of them i'm not going
00:05:31.500to name names uh i would say they probably didn't write the statements themselves i'd leave it at
00:05:37.800that um they don't want to actually do anything they don't really want to be seen on the ground
00:05:43.100in Alberta as doing anything. They want to be seen outside of Alberta as doing something.
00:05:49.540Their pitch, Nigel, is, if you look at it, it just says, Albertans don't have a problem
00:05:55.600with Canada, they just have a problem with liberal policies, and if you just vote conservative,
00:05:59.900everything will be fine. So their message is, Albertans should do what they've done
00:06:05.320for the last, I forget the exact number, 22 to 25 consecutive federal elections and vote
00:06:10.120conservative or conservative predecessor parties since 1958 just keep doing what you've done since
00:06:16.3601958 and everything will be fine the next time that's essentially their pitch oh sure but i don't
00:06:24.340like the pitch that they've uh there is a time for somebody to come out and say you know uh i don't
00:06:30.620like what this government does you don't like it either but i'm not prepared to encourage you to
00:06:36.800break up the country over it. Let's be, let's recognize what is good about Canada. And now,
00:06:42.260let me tell you a few things about Mr. Carney and about what he's doing and the way that he's using
00:06:48.220trade negotiations to make himself look like a great Canadian leader. Ladies and gentlemen,
00:06:53.760he is nothing of the sort. And keep going in that vein. The idea of actually trying,
00:06:58.340it's like trying to be a little bit pregnant, you know, it doesn't look good. Come here and say,
00:07:02.940well, we can't really come out and say this publicly, but we actually would prefer to stay in Canada.
00:07:07.240So just don't ask the leader any awkward questions.
00:07:10.220This is not a time for hiding behind an organization, a front organization.
00:07:18.280Dave, Polyam has said he's going to be campaigning.
00:07:22.780He showed up during Stampede and spoke to the Conservatives Stampede barbecue.
00:07:28.020And even then, he mentioned it a little bit at the end because he knows if he goes hard in front of a crowd that is not hand-selected, if you find a hand-selected, explicitly federalist crowd, yeah, he can do that.
00:07:43.140And he actually did speak to a hand-selected crowd where he got applauses.
00:07:46.980Yeah, but if he speaks to just kind of a generic conservative crowd and goes hard against independents, he will get booed.
00:07:56.100even by people who vote for him and are his supporters.
00:10:12.120Yeah, and systemic change is pretty much impossible.
00:10:15.340That's what Albertans are coming to the conclusion of.
00:10:17.540I mean, we can get a party that's less bad than the last one to us, but the system isn't going to change.
00:10:22.260So people are going to ask themselves, do we want to accept this system in perpetuity or we look at other options?
00:10:27.740But the danger of what's happening and why they're keeping it low, Alberta's political climate is very different now than even 10 years ago.
00:10:34.500We've never seen it hyper engaged like this.
00:10:36.900Look at the AGMs at the UCP, you know, thousands and thousands of people showing up, paying hundreds of dollars, going out for weekends.
00:10:44.120I mean, when the progressive conservatives were in power, a big AGM was 800 people and that was a party in power.
00:10:49.280Now, that galvanized, crabby electorate of thousands of active people can turn, and they can turn quickly.
00:10:57.660I remember Ted Byfield holding a convention in the late 80s over in Vancouver,
00:11:03.520and that's all it took to take a party, a conservative party that won power just a couple of years before that,
00:11:09.220and say, you know what, they're not serving the West.
00:11:11.060We're going to form a whole brand new party that only serves the West.
00:11:13.980And that changed the whole dynamic for a decade out here.
00:11:16.520You're not saying that's necessarily coming, but Mr. Pauly, I better understand, he's playing with some fire here.
00:11:21.920And this is a really grumpy electorate in Alberta right now.
00:11:25.000Once the West wanted in, now it wants out.
00:11:45.180I mean, they're a handful of floor crossings and a party convention away from another one coming up like that.
00:11:49.940So stirring up the Alberta electorate right now might not be a wise idea on Mr. Polievs.
00:11:54.320Well, if you look, if the latest polls are to be believed, and, you know, I'm looking at the trends across a variety of polling firms,
00:12:02.060and you look at the seat projections, I think the latest one, I think it was Abacus, had the Conservatives nationally at 77 seats,
00:12:08.960which is pretty much putting us back where we were with the Reform Party and the Canadian Alliance.
00:12:13.640So it's really just back to the prairies, parts of interior BC, and then adding in a little bit more rural Ontario than the Canadian Alliance had.
00:12:25.160Electorally, we're back to where we were 25 years ago, the Conservative Party.
00:12:30.000They're back to the Reform Party, or at least the Alliance, I should say, to be more fair.
00:12:36.680But without a vigorous representation of the West, the base of seats is coming from the West.
00:12:43.640But the Conservatives are not speaking to Western issues beyond issues that are also popular in other parts of the country at the same time.
00:12:56.420There's a gag order on every Conservative MP.
00:12:59.060They are not allowed to talk about equalization because that'll cost them votes in Quebec.
00:13:02.260That'll cost them votes in the Atlantic provinces.
00:13:05.200They're not allowed to speak up like that.
00:13:07.740And I guess generally when you see a fracture on the right, federally or provincially, it happens when the conservatives are in power.
00:13:16.420When the mainstream conservative party, the Tories are in power, and then they fail to deliver or they disappoint their core constituency.
00:13:22.560That's where you get a reform party. That's where you get a wild rose.
00:13:25.680The one exception to that was the B.C. conservatives versus the liberals.
00:13:29.540And they continue to fracture into a million pieces like a little Russian doll.0.52
00:13:33.060But I guess the question is, are the Conservatives entering territory where, if it doesn't look like they can win anyway, that Albertans, perhaps a broader set of Western voters, would say, if we can't win anyway as the Conservatives, we may as well have our own kind of block that at least strongly advocates for our interests.0.65
00:13:56.200Well, you can see how people would put that together. Then, of course, you get into the
00:14:05.620practicalities of the matter, how easy it would be done. I mean, the sad facts of the matter are
00:14:09.340that Canadians back east do not have conservative ideas. I don't know what kind of ideas they have1.00
00:14:16.300that permits them to keep electing a government that does the things that it does, which we're
00:14:20.020going to be getting to but it is easy to put it together but I come back to the
00:14:26.260point that if you want to be taken seriously in the future you've got to
00:14:29.320you've got to be firm and what you what you're standing for so I think mr.
00:14:33.400Pauliard needs to say what he's standing for maybe it's not what I think it is
00:14:36.580but maybe but whatever it is you should say so you know Maverick party didn't do
00:14:40.180very well did it never really got off the ground it lacked leadership it lacked
00:15:55.580Dave touched on it a little bit with the trade war.
00:16:00.020Yeah, I know our listenership is broadly pretty pro-Trump,
00:16:03.220but sometimes, guys, it's got to be hard to stay pro-Trump,
00:16:07.800even as a Canadian, even as an Albertan,
00:16:10.260even if you're an independent supporting Albertan,
00:16:12.920The guy makes it pretty hard to support. He is at least ostensibly supposed to be America first. He's not all friends first. I don't think he's necessarily been particularly America first and at least a lot of their foreign policy.
00:16:26.940But it seems to me where we're at in the trade war is extremely mutually destructive.
00:16:35.560And I hate to say it, but Carney looks like the more reasonable guy in this.
00:16:41.100He is probably trying to come across as the less reasonable guy.
00:16:45.840And now we're in a tit-for-tat of not just tariffs, but even banning each other's products, Nigel.
00:16:51.260Yeah. So, you know, it would be easy to say a pox on both of your houses. Everybody is behaving like a fool. But leaving aside Mr. Trump for a moment, personal Mr. Carney, when I watch his statements and the actions that he takes, I'm constantly going back to that speech that he made in Davos, which I believe was his heart and which he is now.
00:17:21.260now trying to make come true through the way he conducts these negotiations with the Americans.
00:17:28.920He actually doesn't particularly seem to want a solution here. What he is getting is massive
00:17:36.240support from Canadians. You referred earlier to polls. I saw figures of 70%. He's getting his
00:17:42.700needs met in terms of support from Canadians. He can do a snap election if he wants. I don't think
00:17:48.540He needs to, but if he wants, he could reduce the Conservatives to, as you say, more or less a Western rump,
00:17:58.100and then have four years to bring his grand vision.
00:20:35.280There's something to it, at least in that sense.
00:20:38.300But the argument falls apart when you're dealing with relatively pure competitor countries, when you're dealing with Western Europe, Canada, the United States, Japan.
00:20:47.420But Carney is, I guess the question is, how serious is he about it that we're going to be this more European-focused country?
00:20:55.140We paid an ungodly sum of money to be a part of Eurovision so that a Canadian can go and dress up funny and dance there.
00:21:04.620you know until he was elected prime minister he was had three citizenships i think it was
00:21:11.780in canada i think ireland and the united kingdom he's gotten rid of those but he seems very much
00:21:17.720to want to make us a more european country he's probably smart enough to know though that
00:21:22.980no matter how much we try to artificially push trade that way the united states is just too big
00:21:29.780There is no replacing it, even partially replacing it.
00:21:33.420But on the other side, you're dealing with Trump, who sees trade as a zero-sum game and does seem intended, not necessarily to make Canada a 51st state, but certainly to make it very clear that Canada is a vassal state and subject to the whims of the United States.
00:28:22.060Yeah. Scheisse. Or scheissen would be the plural. The good one's a plural.0.96
00:28:28.560Yeah. You know, I was hesitant to, you know, tell Dave, hey, let's do a story. But then I was
00:28:35.620watching this front page news across the planet. And so I was like, OK, I guess I guess we should
00:28:41.100be on it. It was essentially a provincial election in a small German state, Sachsen-Anhalt.
00:28:47.840To put this in perspective to people in Canada, it's roughly, it's the relative importance of New Brunswick.
00:28:55.600Can you imagine a provincial election in New Brunswick that gets front-page, wall-to-wall coverage across the planet and has people quaking with fear?
00:29:07.420Something is going weird when New Brunswick has an election of that magnitude.
00:29:10.580What happened is the AFD, a populist right party in Germany, utterly destroyed their opponents.
00:29:20.080The governing CDU, the party that's nominally kind of supposed to be conservative, at least, the Christian Democratic Union, went from 37% of the vote and the governing party to something like 17%.
00:32:00.360But Nigel Farage seems poised to win there.
00:32:05.460The new right is rising all across Europe now.
00:32:10.040And it's labelled far right everywhere.
00:32:12.440When to me, this is the moderate option to fix Europe at this point.
00:32:16.460Because it's going to get fixed at the ballot box, or it's going to get fixed outside the ballot box at some point when it degenerates far enough.
00:32:58.600they're terrified of the r-word and you kick the can down the road you kick the can down the road
00:33:03.160and you defer it eventually that pendulum's gonna swing back and and and this is as derek said too
00:33:09.720it's not as far right as they're describing in fact they should be looking at why people are
00:33:14.440leaning that way rather than trying to decry it because if you defer what has to happen much
00:33:19.080longer we're going to see riots we're going to see uh issues in many countries so i think one of the
00:33:24.520things to emphasize this is not the reborn nazi party no this is an entirely different set of
00:33:31.880considerations and it is not unreasonable for germans and the people of anhalt saxon saxon
00:33:40.280anna saxon oh there's three saxonese in germany yes there's saxon saxon anhalt and it's a long
00:33:49.720complicated history with a woman empire anyway but the thing is these are not people who you
00:33:54.920should describe as far right you know that the nazi party was the national socialist party so
00:34:02.440somehow that became far right so that shows how much uh attention you can pay to the people who
00:34:08.200write the labels so what do we really got derek you were the way you've explained it they are
00:34:14.680opposed to mass migration and they have some concerns about germans bailing out the slack
00:34:22.200habits of people who don't work hard enough in other countries now is that far right that to
00:34:27.960me seems like about as centrist a position as you could take it was that was the cdu the conservative
00:34:34.600party's position in germany until even for the first bit of angela merkel angela merkel used to
00:34:41.880say multiculturalism doesn't work doesn't fit for us so it's frankly early angela merkel except
00:34:50.120actually meaning it that's that's the difference and uh martin selner he's kind of he's an austrian
00:34:56.040guy i've interviewed him before uh he's kind of one of the big leaders and founders of the
00:34:59.720re-migration movement across europe uh he had an interesting point uh or i think he was sharing
00:35:04.120someone else's point that why doesn't why don't all these establishment parties hit there is a
00:35:09.400fix it button you know one button they could all press and fix it there's actually only one party
00:35:14.360in europe that's done it which is so mass migration is creating total upheaval in the
00:35:19.880poll it's smashing the political establishment in every single country in europe that's engaging it
00:35:24.600so essentially everyone besides poland and hungary and a couple balkans um if they just fix that
00:35:30.600issue they could go back to their you know 10 week uh 10 weeks of vacation socialist welfare
00:35:36.920paradises, and the establishment would be firmly back in control. But they're risking
00:35:40.900all control over this one issue. Only the Danish Social Democratic Party, so center-left party in
00:35:48.340Denmark, they said, yeah, we're going to tackle mass migration. And they totally destroyed the
00:35:56.280so-called far right. They're nowhere to be seen as a significant force in Denmark anymore,
00:36:00.160because they just took the issue off the table. You don't like that? Fine. It's fixed. In fact,
00:36:04.680If we want to have our socialist, our welfare paradise state here, we can't fund that if we're funding every Tom, Dick, and Mohammed who comes in.0.83
00:36:15.900Why is it so important to the center-left, the hard-left, the center-left, and the center-right in Europe to not tackle this issue when that one issue threatens all of their grips on power, yet they still won't do it?1.00
00:41:51.320I just want to remind everybody, yeah, we've got a referendum coming,
00:41:54.580and this, regardless of which way people might vote,
00:41:58.280is shaping up to be a heck of a gong show because Elections Alberta
00:42:01.460appears to be completely incapable of managing it.
00:42:05.400They sent out 300,000 advance ballots.
00:42:07.700It sounds like there's not the right amount of ballots in some envelopes,
00:42:10.460But even worse, there's an attestation on there that people have to sign saying that,
00:42:16.260I don't want to go too far in the weeds with this, but it's from the prior legislation
00:42:21.200saying that you couldn't get an advanced ballot unless you had a special reason.
00:42:24.640So Elections Alberta said, well, just scratch that out and then send it back in.
00:42:28.940It's causing confusion, you know, and seniors and so on are getting this
00:42:33.140because it says you can be charged criminally if you don't sign this.
00:42:36.900It's like, how hard is it when you're sending out 300,000 of something to have somebody just read the copy and say, hey, wait a minute, that doesn't belong there.
00:42:45.560These are the people running this referendum.
00:42:48.060And whoever wins and whoever loses, they're going to question the validity of the entire exercise because Elections Alberta has really not shown good competency in this test.
00:42:57.300And it is an alarming number of mail-in ballots that have been sent out.
00:43:02.300It's a lot easier to commit fraud with mail-in ballots.
00:43:04.440And I'm going to have, I'm not going to get my numbers exact here, but somewhere in the ballpark of 75,000 mail-in ballots were used in the last provincial election.
00:43:13.740So far, how many have been requested for this?
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00:47:02.560We're going to be having, we had some scheduling issues, or technical issues, sorry, last week.
00:47:08.780Bit embarrassing, but we had some scheduling issues.
00:47:12.100We're going to be doing our monthly Editor's Circle private video conference call tomorrow evening at 7 p.m. Mountain Time.
00:47:19.320So you can join me and Dave, Nigel, maybe Corey, I don't know.
00:47:24.020I'm putting you on the spot. Yeah, on the spot. I'm not going to make you answer now.
00:47:27.860But you can chat with us live in a private forum in the comments section, but also just on video, face-to-face.
00:47:36.800It's a great, uh, intimate opportunity for you guys to, uh, give us feedback about, uh, what we could be doing better or what's happening in the world that we should be paying attention to.
00:47:45.300All right. That's it for me, Corey, Nigel, and Dave. Thank you. Thank you, John, and production. I thank all of you for joining us today. God bless.