Western Standard - September 10, 2026


Is Poilievre pushing Alberta conservatives too far?


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00:00:00.000 Good day. Today is September 9th, 2026. I'm Derek Fildebrand, publisher of the Western
00:00:29.220 Standard, and you're watching the pipeline. I've got our usual crew here today, Western Standard
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00:00:41.060 Cory Morgan. Always a pleasure. Before we get going though, I want to announce that the Western
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00:01:30.400 All right, we're going to be talking about the rise of the right in Europe,
00:01:37.360 particularly with news coming from Sachsen-Anhalt,
00:01:40.400 the election in a relatively small German state,
00:01:43.860 making news across the world, making news here in Canada.
00:01:48.600 The reverberations of that are being felt everywhere, including here at home. 0.94
00:01:54.240 We're going to talk about the trade war, making everyone look like an idiot, what's happening, the tit-for-tat, what can, if Canada, if anything, do. 0.93
00:02:06.540 But first we're going to start with news that the federal Conservatives have launched Conservatives for Canada, 0.96
00:02:14.820 a political action committee and advertiser for Conservative MPs
00:02:20.660 to get involved in the election, sorry, in the referendum campaign
00:02:24.400 on Alberta independence that's taking place October 19th.
00:02:28.240 Corey, tell us about Conservatives for Canada and what they're doing.
00:02:33.400 Yeah, so all this is a new third-party group,
00:02:35.920 so it is, I guess, supposed to be kind of arms linked from the Federal Party,
00:02:39.160 but it is a branch of the Federal Party.
00:02:40.600 It's the Federal Conservatives have set this up.
00:02:43.740 they're fundraising for it i haven't seen much evidence of an actual campaign dean lloyd is a
00:02:49.040 member of parliament with them he's the the head of this this group and their mandate is to convince
00:02:56.400 albertans to choose option one on october 19th they're wading into provincial politics which
00:03:01.400 i'm sure we'll talk about but i think it's a bit of a gamble on their part actually for their
00:03:06.420 alberta supporters on something that's split particularly among conservative ones so i've seen
00:03:12.860 on social media, we've seen a number of the Conservative MPs who put out sort of canned
00:03:17.540 statements about how they should vote option one and that they're forever Canadian and things such
00:03:22.060 as that. And they haven't been terribly well received on social media, though I know that's
00:03:25.400 not always the best measure of, you know, support or whatnot. It's kind of anecdotal. But among
00:03:30.420 Conservative followers, they're not necessarily getting a good reception. But I think Pierre
00:03:35.200 Paulyev really wants to signal to central Canada, we're not supporting this independence push in
00:03:41.980 Alberta we're federalists reunified and darn it we're going to make sure that we wear that Canadian
00:03:46.280 flag uh it's a similar problem he's got as Daniel Smith in a sense your own support base might have
00:03:52.720 a bit of a lean towards that but when you're looking at a broader election you gotta watch
00:03:56.600 where you're gonna think with Mr. Poliari is the leader of the party and that's what he thinks he
00:04:00.540 could say that he could that's my question why Dane Lloyd no offense to him but he is Dane Lloyd
00:04:08.280 Nobody has ever heard of this guy.
00:04:10.260 Where does he represent?
00:04:11.800 It's in North Central Alberta or something.
00:04:14.020 He's not a bad MP.
00:04:15.720 I've never heard of the guy.
00:04:17.100 There are certainly more prominent Alberta MPs, including from Calgary.
00:04:22.020 Michelle Rumpel-Garner comes to mind.
00:04:24.880 I'm just wondering why they picked an obscure MP that nobody's ever heard of.
00:04:28.860 So that if this does blow up, it doesn't land on Poliev's lap.
00:04:31.940 I think it's because the majority of people who vote conservative federally and provincially in Alberta are, if polls would be correct, when you break it down by party supporters, majority of people who vote conservative are also voting for independence.
00:04:48.120 The Conservatives need to be seen, particularly outside of Alberta, as not in with that, but they don't want to actively antagonize their voter base, which is why the Conservatives are doing this perfunctory campaign on the Federalist side, but doing the absolute minimum to not be seen, in Alberta at least, as being involved, because it's antagonizing their voters.
00:05:13.540 um that's why we've not been able to find a single conservative mp willing to debate me or anyone
00:05:20.900 else on independence uh they've got these kind of canned statements as you've said that have all
00:05:26.940 gone out uh and some of them are from people i know are federalists some of them i'm not going
00:05:31.500 to name names uh i would say they probably didn't write the statements themselves i'd leave it at
00:05:37.800 that um they don't want to actually do anything they don't really want to be seen on the ground
00:05:43.100 in Alberta as doing anything. They want to be seen outside of Alberta as doing something.
00:05:49.540 Their pitch, Nigel, is, if you look at it, it just says, Albertans don't have a problem
00:05:55.600 with Canada, they just have a problem with liberal policies, and if you just vote conservative,
00:05:59.900 everything will be fine. So their message is, Albertans should do what they've done
00:06:05.320 for the last, I forget the exact number, 22 to 25 consecutive federal elections and vote
00:06:10.120 conservative or conservative predecessor parties since 1958 just keep doing what you've done since
00:06:16.360 1958 and everything will be fine the next time that's essentially their pitch oh sure but i don't
00:06:24.340 like the pitch that they've uh there is a time for somebody to come out and say you know uh i don't
00:06:30.620 like what this government does you don't like it either but i'm not prepared to encourage you to
00:06:36.800 break up the country over it. Let's be, let's recognize what is good about Canada. And now,
00:06:42.260 let me tell you a few things about Mr. Carney and about what he's doing and the way that he's using
00:06:48.220 trade negotiations to make himself look like a great Canadian leader. Ladies and gentlemen,
00:06:53.760 he is nothing of the sort. And keep going in that vein. The idea of actually trying,
00:06:58.340 it's like trying to be a little bit pregnant, you know, it doesn't look good. Come here and say,
00:07:02.940 well, we can't really come out and say this publicly, but we actually would prefer to stay in Canada.
00:07:07.240 So just don't ask the leader any awkward questions.
00:07:10.220 This is not a time for hiding behind an organization, a front organization.
00:07:15.740 It's time to get out in front.
00:07:18.280 Dave, Polyam has said he's going to be campaigning.
00:07:22.780 He showed up during Stampede and spoke to the Conservatives Stampede barbecue.
00:07:28.020 And even then, he mentioned it a little bit at the end because he knows if he goes hard in front of a crowd that is not hand-selected, if you find a hand-selected, explicitly federalist crowd, yeah, he can do that.
00:07:43.140 And he actually did speak to a hand-selected crowd where he got applauses.
00:07:46.980 Yeah, but if he speaks to just kind of a generic conservative crowd and goes hard against independents, he will get booed.
00:07:56.100 even by people who vote for him and are his supporters.
00:07:58.560 He'll get booed if he does it.
00:08:01.040 That's why we have not seen him once speak to the issue
00:08:04.480 in front of kind of a generic conservative
00:08:06.220 or even a generic Alberta crowd here.
00:08:09.380 No, I guess he's sort of walking a similar tightrope
00:08:13.380 as Premier Smith has.
00:08:16.080 You're right, he did vow to be out here, and so did Carney.
00:08:20.860 The federal cabinet is meeting in Calgary tomorrow,
00:08:25.180 so I'm sure we'll get questions about about the October referendum there and
00:08:32.200 there's still what six weeks to go five weeks to go so I'm sure we'll see a 0.91
00:08:37.600 poly have at some point and you know I'm sure we'll see a Carney once he's a 0.92
00:08:42.100 finished killing all trade with the United States finally come out and do a
00:08:47.800 major speech on it too yeah if I made that he you may well be right Derek but
00:08:52.960 he would get booed but sometimes there is a time when you just got to say what
00:08:57.120 you what you really believe if that is in fact what you really believe and be
00:09:02.080 prepared to take the the consequences yes it'll be an uncomfortable day when he
00:09:07.660 does it if he does it within six months time and three months time even people
00:09:13.480 say yeah well actually like the liberal government deserves to be condemned it
00:09:18.400 is the liberal government that has made this country what it something that so
00:09:22.840 many people in Alberta want to leave it is not but it is still fundamentally a
00:09:29.600 decent country if we could just get the thing straight with those people back
00:09:33.820 I'm highly skeptical of if we would simply have a blue shade of government
00:09:38.980 it's got to be a different type of conservatism to what we've seen it
00:09:43.120 Corey they've they've put forward no proposals the only proposal of the
00:09:47.260 conservatives in this campaign is to vote for them they have not once said that
00:09:52.520 That they will reopen the Constitution for fair representation in the House of Commons or the Senate.
00:09:57.380 They have explicitly said that they will not even make minor tinkers to equalization.
00:10:04.860 The Conservatives have made virtually no promises at all towards Alberta other than we will let you build pipelines.
00:10:11.480 That's it.
00:10:12.120 Yeah, and systemic change is pretty much impossible.
00:10:15.340 That's what Albertans are coming to the conclusion of.
00:10:17.540 I mean, we can get a party that's less bad than the last one to us, but the system isn't going to change.
00:10:22.260 So people are going to ask themselves, do we want to accept this system in perpetuity or we look at other options?
00:10:27.740 But the danger of what's happening and why they're keeping it low, Alberta's political climate is very different now than even 10 years ago.
00:10:34.500 We've never seen it hyper engaged like this.
00:10:36.900 Look at the AGMs at the UCP, you know, thousands and thousands of people showing up, paying hundreds of dollars, going out for weekends.
00:10:44.120 I mean, when the progressive conservatives were in power, a big AGM was 800 people and that was a party in power.
00:10:49.280 Now, that galvanized, crabby electorate of thousands of active people can turn, and they can turn quickly.
00:10:57.660 I remember Ted Byfield holding a convention in the late 80s over in Vancouver,
00:11:03.520 and that's all it took to take a party, a conservative party that won power just a couple of years before that,
00:11:09.220 and say, you know what, they're not serving the West.
00:11:11.060 We're going to form a whole brand new party that only serves the West.
00:11:13.980 And that changed the whole dynamic for a decade out here.
00:11:16.520 You're not saying that's necessarily coming, but Mr. Pauly, I better understand, he's playing with some fire here.
00:11:21.920 And this is a really grumpy electorate in Alberta right now.
00:11:25.000 Once the West wanted in, now it wants out.
00:11:27.180 Was that a, you know?
00:11:28.640 Well, yeah, that was a sense.
00:11:30.680 And Preston Manning's thing, the West wants in.
00:11:33.020 And that didn't work.
00:11:34.280 It's closer to the West wants out.
00:11:36.700 And, you know, or at least maybe a Western bloc type party that could speak for the West unapologetically.
00:11:43.480 I could see the appeal of that.
00:11:45.180 I mean, they're a handful of floor crossings and a party convention away from another one coming up like that.
00:11:49.940 So stirring up the Alberta electorate right now might not be a wise idea on Mr. Polievs.
00:11:54.320 Well, if you look, if the latest polls are to be believed, and, you know, I'm looking at the trends across a variety of polling firms,
00:12:02.060 and you look at the seat projections, I think the latest one, I think it was Abacus, had the Conservatives nationally at 77 seats,
00:12:08.960 which is pretty much putting us back where we were with the Reform Party and the Canadian Alliance.
00:12:13.640 So it's really just back to the prairies, parts of interior BC, and then adding in a little bit more rural Ontario than the Canadian Alliance had.
00:12:25.160 Electorally, we're back to where we were 25 years ago, the Conservative Party.
00:12:30.000 They're back to the Reform Party, or at least the Alliance, I should say, to be more fair.
00:12:36.680 But without a vigorous representation of the West, the base of seats is coming from the West.
00:12:43.640 But the Conservatives are not speaking to Western issues beyond issues that are also popular in other parts of the country at the same time.
00:12:56.420 There's a gag order on every Conservative MP.
00:12:59.060 They are not allowed to talk about equalization because that'll cost them votes in Quebec.
00:13:02.260 That'll cost them votes in the Atlantic provinces.
00:13:05.200 They're not allowed to speak up like that.
00:13:07.740 And I guess generally when you see a fracture on the right, federally or provincially, it happens when the conservatives are in power.
00:13:16.420 When the mainstream conservative party, the Tories are in power, and then they fail to deliver or they disappoint their core constituency.
00:13:22.560 That's where you get a reform party. That's where you get a wild rose.
00:13:25.680 The one exception to that was the B.C. conservatives versus the liberals.
00:13:29.540 And they continue to fracture into a million pieces like a little Russian doll. 0.52
00:13:33.060 But I guess the question is, are the Conservatives entering territory where, if it doesn't look like they can win anyway, that Albertans, perhaps a broader set of Western voters, would say, if we can't win anyway as the Conservatives, we may as well have our own kind of block that at least strongly advocates for our interests. 0.65
00:13:56.200 Well, you can see how people would put that together. Then, of course, you get into the
00:14:05.620 practicalities of the matter, how easy it would be done. I mean, the sad facts of the matter are
00:14:09.340 that Canadians back east do not have conservative ideas. I don't know what kind of ideas they have 1.00
00:14:16.300 that permits them to keep electing a government that does the things that it does, which we're
00:14:20.020 going to be getting to but it is easy to put it together but I come back to the
00:14:26.260 point that if you want to be taken seriously in the future you've got to
00:14:29.320 you've got to be firm and what you what you're standing for so I think mr.
00:14:33.400 Pauliard needs to say what he's standing for maybe it's not what I think it is
00:14:36.580 but maybe but whatever it is you should say so you know Maverick party didn't do
00:14:40.180 very well did it never really got off the ground it lacked leadership it lacked
00:14:45.580 even a half-serious name,
00:14:48.040 we've essentially named it after a movie sequel
00:14:50.220 that we anticipated.
00:14:51.900 It never had serious organization,
00:14:53.680 and it never attracted any conservatives
00:14:55.100 across the floor to join it.
00:14:56.160 That's not necessarily required.
00:14:57.720 The Reform Party never had that.
00:14:59.540 But it sure helps.
00:15:00.700 That helped with the B.C. conservatives
00:15:01.800 splitting from the liberals.
00:15:02.920 It helped with Wild Rose breaking
00:15:05.660 from the progressive conservatives.
00:15:07.340 That kind of thing helps.
00:15:08.060 But it never had the juice to get going.
00:15:10.200 I would say the atmosphere has changed quite a bit
00:15:12.480 since the Maverick was formed
00:15:13.740 and tried to get a toehold
00:15:14.940 than where it is at today.
00:15:17.160 And I wouldn't say that, you know, 0.98
00:15:18.820 Polly should come in and start pushing towards 0.99
00:15:20.720 a pro-independence thing either.
00:15:22.240 And, you know, my thoughts are,
00:15:23.240 just keep your head down.
00:15:24.540 I mean, I understand you have to try
00:15:26.880 and win Central Canada.
00:15:27.860 That's just the political nature of the country.
00:15:30.260 But coming in here and directly forming
00:15:32.960 an organization to campaign on one side
00:15:35.400 of a provincial referendum, dude, I don't know.
00:15:39.060 I mean, there's got to be a few of us members
00:15:40.920 saying, I'm not sure if I want to keep hearing this
00:15:43.360 at the town hall meetings I go to.
00:15:44.940 Mm-hmm. All right.
00:15:46.020 I wonder if Danielle wants to hear it.
00:15:48.220 She's in the same boat as we said.
00:15:49.820 They're both treading a needle, and it's a tough one.
00:15:52.560 Yeah. Okay.
00:15:54.600 We'll switch gears.
00:15:55.580 Dave touched on it a little bit with the trade war.
00:16:00.020 Yeah, I know our listenership is broadly pretty pro-Trump,
00:16:03.220 but sometimes, guys, it's got to be hard to stay pro-Trump,
00:16:07.800 even as a Canadian, even as an Albertan,
00:16:10.260 even if you're an independent supporting Albertan,
00:16:12.920 The guy makes it pretty hard to support. He is at least ostensibly supposed to be America first. He's not all friends first. I don't think he's necessarily been particularly America first and at least a lot of their foreign policy.
00:16:26.940 But it seems to me where we're at in the trade war is extremely mutually destructive.
00:16:35.560 And I hate to say it, but Carney looks like the more reasonable guy in this.
00:16:39.400 Now, Trump would probably agree.
00:16:41.100 He is probably trying to come across as the less reasonable guy.
00:16:45.840 And now we're in a tit-for-tat of not just tariffs, but even banning each other's products, Nigel.
00:16:51.260 Yeah. So, you know, it would be easy to say a pox on both of your houses. Everybody is behaving like a fool. But leaving aside Mr. Trump for a moment, personal Mr. Carney, when I watch his statements and the actions that he takes, I'm constantly going back to that speech that he made in Davos, which I believe was his heart and which he is now.
00:17:21.260 now trying to make come true through the way he conducts these negotiations with the Americans.
00:17:28.920 He actually doesn't particularly seem to want a solution here. What he is getting is massive
00:17:36.240 support from Canadians. You referred earlier to polls. I saw figures of 70%. He's getting his
00:17:42.700 needs met in terms of support from Canadians. He can do a snap election if he wants. I don't think
00:17:48.540 He needs to, but if he wants, he could reduce the Conservatives to, as you say, more or less a Western rump,
00:17:58.100 and then have four years to bring his grand vision.
00:18:01.500 And what is this grand vision?
00:18:03.120 Well, it seems to be, let's get closer to China, let's get closer to Europe. 0.89
00:18:07.540 Well, keep it.
00:18:09.780 Europe has nothing to offer us.
00:18:11.820 They can't control their own borders, never mind get their debt together.
00:18:16.600 Lord knows we have enough debt.
00:18:18.540 Well, we're not controlling our borders.
00:18:20.080 I suppose we'd be a good fit.
00:18:21.580 Meanwhile, do you really want to be going,
00:18:24.260 instead of going to Washington for your orders,
00:18:26.480 you want to be going to Peking, Beijing, I should say?
00:18:30.460 Mr. Carney, that's a very old school.
00:18:33.460 Well, yes, you know, Great Britain and Europe.
00:18:36.800 So anyway, I think Carney is doing what he said he would do.
00:18:41.500 He refuses a deal that he reads as dependency
00:18:44.760 and treats Europe plus others as plan A.
00:18:49.240 That's what he said at Davos that he wanted to do.
00:18:51.420 That's how he's behaving now.
00:18:54.100 Sorry, Derek.
00:18:54.900 To me, it's the arrogance of the man.
00:18:57.340 He is flying off to Europe next week,
00:18:59.860 and they're going to make this joint announcement
00:19:01.580 of Canada and the EU joining for this.
00:19:05.040 And he hasn't even addressed it to Parliament yet.
00:19:08.980 He didn't campaign on this.
00:19:10.480 He should be debating it.
00:19:12.880 this has been going on one form or another before confederation but in its modern iteration
00:19:18.400 i take it back to kind of the dieffen baker era where we understand we're in this enormous
00:19:24.320 gravitational pull of the united states economically socially militarily um but you know dieffen baker
00:19:30.880 wanted to be cut of one foot in europe or particularly with the common british commonwealth
00:19:36.480 and one foot uh in the in north america and it's just never worked because the gravitational pull
00:19:42.720 of the United States is so enormous that it's not doable.
00:19:46.480 During the free trade election in 1988,
00:19:49.040 John Turner tried to make the same kind of pitch,
00:19:51.160 less British-focused but more European-focused.
00:19:55.320 You know, with the rise of China,
00:19:56.980 you saw Khrushchev start to move a bit that way.
00:19:59.780 No one thinks it's a bad idea to diversify trade,
00:20:03.500 but we're faced with an impossible situation
00:20:06.020 where, yeah, we do have a protectionist United States now
00:20:09.140 that, and Trump does not see trade as mutually advantageous.
00:20:14.340 He sees it as zero-sum.
00:20:15.760 You win or you lose. 1.00
00:20:17.660 If you are importing, you're losing.
00:20:19.520 If you're exporting, you're winning.
00:20:21.800 I think it's a pretty economically illiterate view of trade.
00:20:25.800 There's something to it when you're dealing with, say,
00:20:28.540 very poor countries with low cost of labor and whatnot,
00:20:31.280 and they can flood your market with cheap Chinese goods. 0.99
00:20:33.980 Like China, yes. 0.97
00:20:35.280 There's something to it, at least in that sense.
00:20:38.300 But the argument falls apart when you're dealing with relatively pure competitor countries, when you're dealing with Western Europe, Canada, the United States, Japan.
00:20:47.420 But Carney is, I guess the question is, how serious is he about it that we're going to be this more European-focused country?
00:20:55.140 We paid an ungodly sum of money to be a part of Eurovision so that a Canadian can go and dress up funny and dance there.
00:21:04.620 you know until he was elected prime minister he was had three citizenships i think it was
00:21:11.780 in canada i think ireland and the united kingdom he's gotten rid of those but he seems very much
00:21:17.720 to want to make us a more european country he's probably smart enough to know though that
00:21:22.980 no matter how much we try to artificially push trade that way the united states is just too big
00:21:29.780 There is no replacing it, even partially replacing it.
00:21:33.420 But on the other side, you're dealing with Trump, who sees trade as a zero-sum game and does seem intended, not necessarily to make Canada a 51st state, but certainly to make it very clear that Canada is a vassal state and subject to the whims of the United States.
00:21:50.120 I think it's an impossible position.
00:21:51.860 well it certainly is the way that trump is playing it but mr trump may find himself
00:21:58.960 limited in a few months and in two years it will be a different president wouldn't like to guess
00:22:04.940 which party at this stage mr carney would be much better advised for canadians to just get through
00:22:11.860 it do what you can renegotiate when you have a different person in the white house that's what
00:22:18.380 if that's what it takes.
00:22:21.980 What we're seeing now, Canadians are being asked to pay a price.
00:22:26.660 People are losing their jobs back east already.
00:22:29.620 There's a very trenchant piece in the National Post this morning
00:22:34.500 on a call on the way out that said,
00:22:36.360 look, Canadians are behind Mr. Carney,
00:22:40.820 but they're not willing to pay the price.
00:22:42.600 So let's see what price Canadians are actually prepared to pay
00:22:45.640 to stick it to the man.
00:22:47.360 and then proceed accordingly.
00:22:50.620 Let's see what happens in the Republican convention this week in Dallas.
00:22:55.500 I'm sure Trump is going to get an earful from some Republican governors.
00:22:59.380 Yes, you will.
00:22:59.780 You can see, though, and I mean it ties into where Paulyov is having so much difficulty as well.
00:23:07.360 You can't help but be a little bit sympathetic to Kearney.
00:23:09.980 I would not want to be across the table from Trump trying to negotiate anything.
00:23:14.360 The man's obstinate.
00:23:15.180 he's he's he's got no interest in negotiation it's quite clear it's just a matter of what can
00:23:20.620 he push and what can he pull in i think he'd actually be opposite the scott percent uh who's
00:23:25.660 there you know is his representative irritating because you know when you think you've got a deal
00:23:30.140 he goes back to trump yeah it's just an impossible situation and i mean if pauliev could come up with
00:23:36.060 a magic formula and say what would i do differently i don't know what somebody could do differently
00:23:41.740 what could you do to do any better with
00:23:43.860 Trump than Carney is? And I think that's
00:23:45.880 that impossible situation.
00:23:48.380 So, I mean, if somehow
00:23:50.040 Pollyoff could find a magic formula
00:23:51.960 to try something different. What do you think
00:23:53.600 Mr. Carney's endgame is?
00:23:56.320 Do you think he actually wants the
00:23:57.760 continuation of the strong
00:23:59.900 relationship between the United States and Canada?
00:24:02.260 I don't think he does. He said
00:24:03.860 in his Dallas speech that he don't. At least
00:24:05.820 in the shorter term, it's serving him very
00:24:07.660 very... If we're just looking at the political lens,
00:24:09.620 This has been a gold for him.
00:24:11.520 I mean, when you've got an external enemy to keep everybody rallied around the center,
00:24:16.280 I mean, he's got an 18-month history of absolutely no accomplishments.
00:24:20.380 He's been terrible, yet nobody's paying attention to it because all eyes are focused on Trump.
00:24:25.840 I think it's in Carney's interest.
00:24:27.400 I wouldn't say perhaps that he's purposely scuttled talks,
00:24:30.120 but I don't think he's terribly sad when they fall apart
00:24:32.880 because every time it happens, his support goes up another couple points.
00:24:35.980 I'm starting to, it'd be a gamble, but I'm starting to think there might be only one way out.
00:24:42.840 And that is just flattery of Trump's ego.
00:24:46.180 You know, if you look at President Mele in Argentina, that's not a particularly super critical American interest.
00:24:53.440 But Mele has allied with him and flatters Trump.
00:24:58.200 He appeals to Trump's ego.
00:25:00.140 He's deferential to him.
00:25:02.060 and also wants Trump's support
00:25:04.620 to regain the felt on the islands
00:25:06.760 yes, and that's
00:25:08.660 one of the payoffs, but you know, you've had
00:25:10.520 some American
00:25:11.700 bailouts, you know, Argentina
00:25:14.620 continues to be, its
00:25:16.540 inflation has come way, way down
00:25:18.500 several hundred percent, but it's still a basket case
00:25:20.480 it needs a lot of help
00:25:22.440 he's been able to get things from the United
00:25:24.560 States, from Trump, by flattery
00:25:26.900 and his ego, but now, but they're seen as
00:25:28.820 somewhat ideologically
00:25:30.860 I can. They're both on the right, but they're very different kinds
00:25:32.900 of the right. Trump is no
00:25:34.940 libertarian, but
00:25:36.440 so that, you know,
00:25:38.980 maybe the one, being reasonable with
00:25:40.960 Trump, I don't think works.
00:25:42.520 Trump is intentionally being unreasonable.
00:25:45.360 It's, he knows he's
00:25:46.960 being unreasonable.
00:25:48.640 And so perhaps appealing to his ego and flattering
00:25:51.020 him, but Canadians would never
00:25:52.720 allow Carney to do that.
00:25:54.760 Because Carney can't come
00:25:56.720 and, you know, get on his knees
00:25:58.320 and grovel before Trump at the White House 0.99
00:26:00.680 and then come back to Ken and say, hey, guys, I'm just doing that because the orange man's crazy. 0.97
00:26:04.940 Trust me on this one.
00:26:06.160 You know, Trump would find out, obviously, you know.
00:26:08.880 So that's not a political move that is possible for Carney, I think.
00:26:15.680 But it might be the only way to deal with a guy like Trump.
00:26:19.180 That's what he wants is like, you know, think of Greenland.
00:26:22.320 He threatens to invade the place.
00:26:26.520 He gets nothing in this deal that America did not already have. 0.75
00:26:29.780 but the Danes
00:26:31.740 kind of showed some deference and he was able to say
00:26:34.000 I got a deal, he was able to hold
00:26:36.080 up a piece of paper and say
00:26:38.020 I achieved this, Trump literally
00:26:39.920 goes around renaming
00:26:41.000 golfs and lakes
00:26:43.960 because he wants paper wins, I don't think he actually really
00:26:45.980 cares about tangible wins in most cases
00:26:47.760 he just wants to, I mean
00:26:49.700 how many times did they say they won the war with Iran
00:26:51.480 I think technically there's been 12 wars
00:26:53.960 because each one has to be a different war to avoid
00:26:56.120 congressional approval for use of force
00:26:58.120 So they've technically on paper had about a dozen wars with Iran.
00:27:01.400 But he wants paper wins.
00:27:03.820 So how do we give Trump a paper win?
00:27:07.540 I guess that's the question.
00:27:09.200 If we'd be in the opposition party or something.
00:27:13.520 Well, if any one of us comes up with the right answer, we'll be out of Calgary and down the water in 36 hours.
00:27:20.320 Hey, come and save us.
00:27:22.320 We might have to hope for Trump to implode on his own.
00:27:24.800 I mean, some of the stuff like talking about even New Mexico.
00:27:28.120 I mean, even some Americans have got to, come on, man.
00:27:30.920 I mean, you know, is he going to find out eventually what the C is in D.C.
00:27:34.960 and want to rename that because it's representing Colombia?
00:27:37.660 You know, it's getting absurd.
00:27:40.040 Hopefully the midterms are a major shock to him. 0.71
00:27:43.320 It could turn him even crazier, though.
00:27:45.860 Well, it could go on in two ways.
00:27:47.540 I don't think humbling works with that man.
00:27:50.440 He might double down. 0.98
00:27:52.080 I mean, then he's truly lame duck. 0.94
00:27:53.620 And then, boy, a lame duck president can be very dangerous. 0.89
00:27:57.340 Yeah. 0.97
00:27:59.580 Okay.
00:28:00.340 Well, I guess we'll pivot again from Trump to the rise of the right in Europe and Germany.
00:28:07.080 I guess the way we'll pivot would be what Trump said.
00:28:09.840 So what happened was...
00:28:12.660 First of all, I'm always hesitant to talk about niche German politics. 0.60
00:28:15.900 I follow it closely, and I know most people here could give zero shits about it. 0.87
00:28:21.200 But... 0.94
00:28:21.620 Scheisse.
00:28:22.060 Yeah. Scheisse. Or scheissen would be the plural. The good one's a plural. 0.96
00:28:28.560 Yeah. You know, I was hesitant to, you know, tell Dave, hey, let's do a story. But then I was
00:28:35.620 watching this front page news across the planet. And so I was like, OK, I guess I guess we should
00:28:41.100 be on it. It was essentially a provincial election in a small German state, Sachsen-Anhalt.
00:28:47.840 To put this in perspective to people in Canada, it's roughly, it's the relative importance of New Brunswick.
00:28:55.600 Can you imagine a provincial election in New Brunswick that gets front-page, wall-to-wall coverage across the planet and has people quaking with fear?
00:29:07.420 Something is going weird when New Brunswick has an election of that magnitude.
00:29:10.580 What happened is the AFD, a populist right party in Germany, utterly destroyed their opponents.
00:29:20.080 The governing CDU, the party that's nominally kind of supposed to be conservative, at least, the Christian Democratic Union, went from 37% of the vote and the governing party to something like 17%.
00:29:31.720 They got obliterated.
00:29:35.380 But the CDU, because it's proportional representation, AFD doesn't have enough votes.
00:29:39.160 votes, it's like one or two seats short of an absolute majority. And so it's a weird situation
00:29:44.740 where they still might not actually govern. I think they probably will, because it would
00:29:52.220 require a super coalition of the conservatives in Germany, the Social Democrats, which are the
00:29:56.960 center left, the Greens, which are, I mean, you think our Greens are crazy, you got to see their
00:30:01.780 Greens. They literally invented the first Green Party. They're OG crazy Green. And then Die Linke,
00:30:07.440 which is the literal legal successor of the East German Communist Party,
00:30:13.240 and then a populist left party, which is kind of the wild card here.
00:30:17.860 It got 5% of the vote, so barely in.
00:30:19.980 It's a left-wing party, and it's kind of pro-Russian,
00:30:23.400 but it's also against mass migration. 0.91
00:30:26.100 So they actually might work with it.
00:30:27.640 Anyway, long story short, you've got headlines across the world
00:30:31.300 written from the wire services calling it far right.
00:30:34.900 Is that a fair description?
00:30:36.120 No.
00:30:36.520 Do all these people read Ayn Brand before they go to bed?
00:30:40.800 It's not even close to a fair description.
00:30:42.900 There probably are a few actual far-right figures here and there in the party.
00:30:47.580 So really, we're talking about an anti-immigration party.
00:30:50.420 They just said the magic word, re-migration.
00:30:53.800 Remember, they were described, though, as far-right by the establishment and Angela Merkel when they were first created.
00:30:59.780 Before anybody was really talking about migration, they were essentially a libertarian party
00:31:03.980 that opposed German taxpayers
00:31:05.800 bailing out the pension funds
00:31:07.420 of like Greece and Portugal.
00:31:09.460 And that got them labeled far right
00:31:11.280 because they wanted to withdraw
00:31:13.060 from the Eurozone
00:31:13.960 and have their own currency,
00:31:15.160 the Deutsche Bank.
00:31:15.820 That made them far right.
00:31:17.520 And then migration became a big issue
00:31:18.980 and then that started to dominate the party.
00:31:22.860 And yeah, so the Eurozone
00:31:24.320 being like these are people
00:31:25.060 we could vote for.
00:31:26.820 Yeah.
00:31:27.640 The Trump plugin is...
00:31:29.280 Trump couldn't help himself.
00:31:32.220 I'm sure the AFD probably didn't appreciate the help.
00:31:35.660 But Trump was cheering us on.
00:31:37.780 He said, make Germany great again.
00:31:39.700 Macht lichtlern.
00:31:40.620 Grosse Vida.
00:31:42.020 I mean, that'll set a few people on edge.
00:31:45.560 But you've got the AFD leading nationally in Germany as well.
00:31:52.400 Marie Le Pen poised very strongly to be the next president in France.
00:31:57.280 Nigel Farage.
00:31:58.860 The polls are fluctuating in the UK.
00:32:00.360 But Nigel Farage seems poised to win there.
00:32:05.460 The new right is rising all across Europe now.
00:32:10.040 And it's labelled far right everywhere.
00:32:12.440 When to me, this is the moderate option to fix Europe at this point.
00:32:16.460 Because it's going to get fixed at the ballot box, or it's going to get fixed outside the ballot box at some point when it degenerates far enough.
00:32:24.140 I know that's a long opening round.
00:32:25.300 Yeah, well, we're going to see more of that trend.
00:32:28.100 You were kind of talking about that before.
00:32:29.300 This began long ago.
00:32:31.320 I think maybe in my view, the tipping point for Europe was the Syrian exodus and the cultural 1.00
00:32:37.540 shock of these predominantly male, young men, rapists coming into the country. 0.99
00:32:44.140 So let's just be blunt about it and leading to just, you know, a cultural upheaval. 0.87
00:32:50.360 And we've been seeing it, yeah, hitting the streets in the UK.
00:32:52.900 But still that instinct among parties in power is just not to touch immigration.
00:32:57.140 They're terrified of immigration.
00:32:58.600 they're terrified of the r-word and you kick the can down the road you kick the can down the road
00:33:03.160 and you defer it eventually that pendulum's gonna swing back and and and this is as derek said too
00:33:09.720 it's not as far right as they're describing in fact they should be looking at why people are
00:33:14.440 leaning that way rather than trying to decry it because if you defer what has to happen much
00:33:19.080 longer we're going to see riots we're going to see uh issues in many countries so i think one of the
00:33:24.520 things to emphasize this is not the reborn nazi party no this is an entirely different set of
00:33:31.880 considerations and it is not unreasonable for germans and the people of anhalt saxon saxon
00:33:40.280 anna saxon oh there's three saxonese in germany yes there's saxon saxon anhalt and it's a long
00:33:49.720 complicated history with a woman empire anyway but the thing is these are not people who you
00:33:54.920 should describe as far right you know that the nazi party was the national socialist party so
00:34:02.440 somehow that became far right so that shows how much uh attention you can pay to the people who
00:34:08.200 write the labels so what do we really got derek you were the way you've explained it they are
00:34:14.680 opposed to mass migration and they have some concerns about germans bailing out the slack
00:34:22.200 habits of people who don't work hard enough in other countries now is that far right that to
00:34:27.960 me seems like about as centrist a position as you could take it was that was the cdu the conservative
00:34:34.600 party's position in germany until even for the first bit of angela merkel angela merkel used to
00:34:41.880 say multiculturalism doesn't work doesn't fit for us so it's frankly early angela merkel except
00:34:50.120 actually meaning it that's that's the difference and uh martin selner he's kind of he's an austrian
00:34:56.040 guy i've interviewed him before uh he's kind of one of the big leaders and founders of the
00:34:59.720 re-migration movement across europe uh he had an interesting point uh or i think he was sharing
00:35:04.120 someone else's point that why doesn't why don't all these establishment parties hit there is a
00:35:09.400 fix it button you know one button they could all press and fix it there's actually only one party
00:35:14.360 in europe that's done it which is so mass migration is creating total upheaval in the
00:35:19.880 poll it's smashing the political establishment in every single country in europe that's engaging it
00:35:24.600 so essentially everyone besides poland and hungary and a couple balkans um if they just fix that
00:35:30.600 issue they could go back to their you know 10 week uh 10 weeks of vacation socialist welfare
00:35:36.920 paradises, and the establishment would be firmly back in control. But they're risking
00:35:40.900 all control over this one issue. Only the Danish Social Democratic Party, so center-left party in
00:35:48.340 Denmark, they said, yeah, we're going to tackle mass migration. And they totally destroyed the
00:35:56.280 so-called far right. They're nowhere to be seen as a significant force in Denmark anymore,
00:36:00.160 because they just took the issue off the table. You don't like that? Fine. It's fixed. In fact,
00:36:04.680 If we want to have our socialist, our welfare paradise state here, we can't fund that if we're funding every Tom, Dick, and Mohammed who comes in. 0.83
00:36:15.900 Why is it so important to the center-left, the hard-left, the center-left, and the center-right in Europe to not tackle this issue when that one issue threatens all of their grips on power, yet they still won't do it? 1.00
00:36:32.120 The migrants vote for them. 0.71
00:36:34.260 They don't vote for the Senate right.
00:36:35.640 The migrants are not voting for the CDU. 0.89
00:36:37.560 They're voting for DeLinca.
00:36:39.020 They're voting for Green.
00:36:40.480 They're voting for the Social Democrats.
00:36:42.880 They're not voting for CDU.
00:36:45.100 I look at England.
00:36:46.840 I keep saying it's going to explode at any point.
00:36:50.260 Dozens and dozens of single male men arriving on the shores every single day.
00:36:55.480 Last week, there was one inflatable raft that had 245 guys on it.
00:37:00.820 245 on one raft.
00:37:02.120 On the weekend, didn't get much media coverage, but hundreds of protesters blocked migrant
00:37:10.000 boats down in Portsmouth and the government condemned them.
00:37:16.420 Far right thuggery is their saying.
00:37:21.520 England has fallen, there's no doubt about it. 1.00
00:37:24.560 Muslims now control the country and just a matter of time before they control the federal 1.00
00:37:30.880 government. 1.00
00:37:31.880 try to make incremental changes. It's funny, we've seen it wash all the way over to here and in
00:37:35.480 social media. Bruce McAllister dared. So Bruce McAllister, for those who don't know, is one of
00:37:39.940 the most senior staffers to Premier Daniel Smith. Yes, and he dared to speak somewhat favorably of
00:37:45.140 what's happening in Germany and pointing some of those things out. And then the referenda question
00:37:49.840 we're facing in Alberta, like some of those questions are on changing things, at least for
00:37:53.880 temporary migrants in Alberta and things like that. And the blowback was immediate. Don Braid
00:38:00.460 popped his pen out and basically...
00:38:03.200 He literally dropped the H-bomb. 0.88
00:38:04.500 He did. 0.95
00:38:05.060 He went to the Hitler... 0.86
00:38:06.520 He dropped the H-bomb right away. 0.85
00:38:08.220 Like, we can't even... 0.60
00:38:10.600 And that's what...
00:38:11.960 These guys have got to realize,
00:38:14.200 if we can't make the moderate changes now, 0.99
00:38:16.860 the shit's going to hit the fan in another 10 years. 0.98
00:38:19.120 Like, just look at the bellwethers, guys. 1.00
00:38:21.260 Europe is telling us what we're heading towards.
00:38:23.880 Don't start pulling the H-word
00:38:25.620 when somebody's talking about relatively modest changes here.
00:38:28.880 This is the Europe that Mr. Carney wishes us to come closer to.
00:38:33.460 But, I mean, it is interesting on how, yeah,
00:38:35.520 basically a state election or a provincial election across the world
00:38:38.440 has led to local domestic strife in politics here.
00:38:42.560 Yeah, so Don Braid, Calgary Herald's senior columnist,
00:38:46.400 drops the H-bomb, says this, you know, would make Adolf Hitler proud.
00:38:50.880 I don't think Adolf Hitler would be proud of his successor 1.00
00:38:53.600 that is a lesbian married to a brown Sri Lankan woman. 0.99
00:38:57.380 i i think hitler would be rolling in his hitler would take offense he was supposed to sell those 0.98
00:39:02.620 things yeah yeah he he would take offense but this is the problem when everything you know how
00:39:07.580 you get a hitler call everything hitler and everything if you everything you know when
00:39:12.880 the establishment says oh you like low taxes that's hitler oh you don't want mass third world
00:39:19.300 migration that's hitler if you call everything someone likes hitler people might start to like
00:39:25.420 the man be careful look what you're doing as a rhetorical ploy that's exactly right but that
00:39:31.900 does happen you can overstate your case well and it's politically effective i mean we'll see what
00:39:38.060 happens here uh let's see if if mr mccallister goes into retreat on it the usual i mean they
00:39:43.660 call for his resignation every couple of weeks for something he says on x anyways but yeah
00:39:47.420 he and duane brought got into it pretty good duane brats another for those not familiar a
00:39:51.580 a political scientist from our Royal University
00:39:53.620 who tends to take the NDP side on things
00:39:55.660 pretty heavily.
00:39:57.900 Yeah. So yeah, it's spilling
00:39:59.500 over into local
00:40:01.080 Alberta politics. It's interesting. I haven't seen
00:40:03.540 anything from Pierre Polyev. Pierre Polyev
00:40:05.760 remember a few years ago
00:40:06.780 threw a few Conservative MPs onto the bus
00:40:09.620 for meeting with Christine Anderson. Christine 0.99
00:40:11.520 Anderson is an AFD member of the European 0.80
00:40:13.420 Parliament. She's actually
00:40:15.480 from, for lack of a better term, the moderate
00:40:17.660 wing of the party. She's from Hessen, essentially
00:40:19.640 near the province of Frankfurt
00:40:21.500 in it. The West German side, they tend to be, you know, they're against mass migration as well,
00:40:26.360 but their focus is more from the older wing of the party, which is against Eurozone bailouts,
00:40:30.660 the more fiscal conservative libertarian types. And she was against, you know, she was speaking
00:40:35.540 in Canada on, you know, against vaccine mandates and whatnot. Some conservative MPs had a picture
00:40:41.140 snap with her and Polyev threw them under the bus, wrote a statement on their behalf. I haven't seen
00:40:46.160 a single one of those conservative MPs actually issued a statement or even agree with a statement
00:40:50.100 that was issued on their behalf disowning this um but yeah it's causing chaos uh
00:40:57.700 uh really around the world like kind of by affiliation because most conservative voters
00:41:02.340 in canada i would imagine would agree with the afd's positions but the conservative establishment
00:41:09.060 has to toe the line because all the stories written about it are written by wire services
00:41:13.460 Reuters, all these kinds of things, and it's always described as far right.
00:41:19.740 Yeah, well, they've lost the plot on that.
00:41:21.840 Nobody knows what far right or far left is these days.
00:41:24.820 Just for the record, your opinion editor of the day had a cigarette with her outside the back down there where Corey goes
00:41:33.020 and had a very good conversation, charming woman, and somebody who, if you actually listened to her, you could vote for her, no problem.
00:41:43.400 Yeah.
00:41:45.240 All right.
00:41:46.580 We'll put a bit in that there, our parting shots.
00:41:49.860 We'll start with Corey.
00:41:51.320 I just want to remind everybody, yeah, we've got a referendum coming,
00:41:54.580 and this, regardless of which way people might vote,
00:41:58.280 is shaping up to be a heck of a gong show because Elections Alberta
00:42:01.460 appears to be completely incapable of managing it.
00:42:05.400 They sent out 300,000 advance ballots.
00:42:07.700 It sounds like there's not the right amount of ballots in some envelopes,
00:42:10.460 But even worse, there's an attestation on there that people have to sign saying that,
00:42:16.260 I don't want to go too far in the weeds with this, but it's from the prior legislation
00:42:21.200 saying that you couldn't get an advanced ballot unless you had a special reason.
00:42:24.640 So Elections Alberta said, well, just scratch that out and then send it back in.
00:42:28.940 It's causing confusion, you know, and seniors and so on are getting this
00:42:33.140 because it says you can be charged criminally if you don't sign this.
00:42:36.900 It's like, how hard is it when you're sending out 300,000 of something to have somebody just read the copy and say, hey, wait a minute, that doesn't belong there.
00:42:45.560 These are the people running this referendum.
00:42:48.060 And whoever wins and whoever loses, they're going to question the validity of the entire exercise because Elections Alberta has really not shown good competency in this test.
00:42:57.300 And it is an alarming number of mail-in ballots that have been sent out.
00:43:00.080 Mail-in ballots does not equal fraud.
00:43:02.300 It's a lot easier to commit fraud with mail-in ballots.
00:43:04.440 And I'm going to have, I'm not going to get my numbers exact here, but somewhere in the ballpark of 75,000 mail-in ballots were used in the last provincial election.
00:43:13.740 So far, how many have been requested for this?
00:43:15.700 Almost 300,000.
00:43:16.980 You know, that's cause for concern.
00:43:19.980 And fraud is a lot easier to commit.
00:43:22.640 You know, you could have a bunch of people eligible in a household to vote, but who wouldn't otherwise vote.
00:43:28.400 And you get canvasser goes and just gets them all to sign up and get them all to fill it in and send it in.
00:43:34.440 Uh, there's very little in the way to control, uh, for fraud here.
00:43:38.580 Well, I shouldn't say that.
00:43:40.380 There are ways to control for fraud, but it is a lot easier to commit, and it's a huge number of ballots.
00:43:46.160 Nigel.
00:43:47.200 So, I'm just, I don't normally do this, but I'm just going to pump the, uh, my own show for tomorrow night.
00:43:52.340 It will be 25 years on Friday, since a couple of airliners slammed into the Twin Towers,
00:43:57.880 and another one into the Pentagon, and another one into the fields of Pennsylvania.
00:44:02.000 Yeah, it changed everything, changed the way we live. 0.97
00:44:05.260 People under 25 have grown up in an atmosphere that was very different
00:44:09.800 for what people who have a recollection of what life was like before that happened.
00:44:14.860 I have a statement to make, and then Dave Naylor and myself and Leah Mache,
00:44:19.500 who would be one of those who weren't around at the time, come talk about it.
00:44:23.660 So, check in the Hannaford Show tomorrow night at 7 o'clock, 9-11 for 20 minutes.
00:44:30.520 Dave, you're shocked.
00:44:31.240 Also 9-11 my social feed has been flooded with videos of that day and you
00:44:39.240 forget how terrifying it was that day and we just didn't know whether literally
00:44:45.280 the world was ending my kid my daughter phoned and asked me what's going on I
00:44:49.940 said I don't know just you know take it easy and little trade secret was the
00:44:57.900 The first of two times, the only two times I've cried in the newsroom was 9-11.
00:45:04.040 All right.
00:45:06.000 On a much happier note, Calgary Pride.
00:45:10.100 I should have gone first the way this went.
00:45:13.720 You know, as usual, conservative politicians wanted to go in the Calgary Pride parade.
00:45:21.060 I won't name the ones here, but I think there was a few.
00:45:23.540 And they were denied the right to go into the Pride Parade. 0.93
00:45:28.680 Now, Calgary's Pride Parade is not the degenerate pedo fest that Toronto's is. 0.94
00:45:35.040 Calgary's not known for having grown men walk around with their wangs dangling around in front of little children. 0.79
00:45:41.120 But it is nonetheless, it's an odd thing.
00:45:44.840 It's not my cup of tea, but, you know, whatever you want to do.
00:45:47.740 But, you know, the Pride movement is so thoroughly hijacked by gender ideology radicals, 0.99
00:45:54.580 and they're always, somehow they're fighting but Israel and Palestine in the middle of this crap. 0.95
00:46:00.440 Conservative MPs were denied the right to participate in the march. 0.98
00:46:04.500 And then, pathetically, they announced, oh, but I'm going to go and march with this other group anyway.
00:46:09.740 You know what? If these assholes don't want you, say, you know what? 1.00
00:46:13.600 Me participating was progress for your movement. 1.00
00:46:16.040 you don't want me in your movement
00:46:17.260 I'm gonna go do my own thing
00:46:19.280 you know so I just think
00:46:20.660 I think it's beneath the dignity
00:46:22.260 of conservative MPs
00:46:23.320 who were denied the application
00:46:24.640 to go to the parade
00:46:25.520 to then have to go
00:46:26.840 you know sneak in with some other group
00:46:28.420 and you know just so they could prove
00:46:30.320 I'm not homophobic
00:46:31.540 because I was there 1.00
00:46:32.160 no these guys are assholes 1.00
00:46:33.600 have a little self-dignity 1.00
00:46:35.420 conservative MPs
00:46:36.440 when you're denied
00:46:37.060 permit to go in these things
00:46:38.440 just don't go
00:46:39.280 a little self-respect
00:46:41.260 you know
00:46:42.320 amen
00:46:42.820 alright
00:46:43.980 that's it
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00:47:02.560 We're going to be having, we had some scheduling issues, or technical issues, sorry, last week.
00:47:08.780 Bit embarrassing, but we had some scheduling issues.
00:47:12.100 We're going to be doing our monthly Editor's Circle private video conference call tomorrow evening at 7 p.m. Mountain Time.
00:47:19.320 So you can join me and Dave, Nigel, maybe Corey, I don't know.
00:47:24.020 I'm putting you on the spot. Yeah, on the spot. I'm not going to make you answer now.
00:47:27.860 But you can chat with us live in a private forum in the comments section, but also just on video, face-to-face.
00:47:36.800 It's a great, uh, intimate opportunity for you guys to, uh, give us feedback about, uh, what we could be doing better or what's happening in the world that we should be paying attention to.
00:47:45.300 All right. That's it for me, Corey, Nigel, and Dave. Thank you. Thank you, John, and production. I thank all of you for joining us today. God bless.
00:48:06.800 We'll see you next time.