Western Standard - November 14, 2024


It’s time to gut Canada Post

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The Canadian Postal Service is going on strike, and it s going to cost the government billions of dollars in lost revenue and millions in lost productivity. The union representing Canada Post workers has served a strike notice, and they re demanding an 11.5% raise, along with protections against technology that might take their jobs.

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00:00:00.580 Good day and welcome to the show. Got another good one ahead. I like to think they're all good.
00:00:05.240 Some are better than others, so we got to admit that. We got coming on as a guest in a little
00:00:09.340 while, Sam Cooper. He's an investigative journalist. Anybody online should know that
00:00:13.640 name the second they hear it. He's just been owning the foreign interference file for a couple
00:00:17.160 of years. He's actually been on that file for closer to 15 years, so it's a little wonder that
00:00:22.100 he has so much to share on it. It's going to be great to talk to him about his latest
00:00:25.740 revision on his book and his latest things that have been breaking as they come out.
00:00:30.180 It's going to be great chatting with him. Lots of other stuff on the go as well.
00:00:34.360 So I see a bunch of you already in the comment scroll. I love seeing that. Jordan, Paradoxie,
00:00:39.120 Don, checking in there. Mr. Stanley, use that comment scroll. That's the great part of having
00:00:44.040 a live show. I don't necessarily read out every comment, as you know, but it can help inspire.
00:00:49.000 I can pass those comments or questions on to guests, or at least I see them and I appreciate
00:00:54.340 that. Just be civil with each other. You know, we can fight on Twitter at another time. We don't
00:00:57.940 need to do it in the comments. Scroll for this show because it will go quickly. So let me get
00:01:01.720 on to one of my favorite subjects to start things off. What's got me worked up? You know, one of my
00:01:05.120 favorite characters from Seinfeld in the past was Newman, and part of it was because he hit right
00:01:09.540 home on what your typical lazy entitled post he was. He really knocked it out of the park with that.
00:01:15.560 Stereotypes don't come from nowhere, guys. The reason he was, I mean, he was a fantastic actor,
00:01:19.720 Mr. Knight, and because it just, people could smell that glimmer of truth. And in Canada,
00:01:25.100 our posties are a little better. And Canada Post, as we know it right now, can't be saved. This has
00:01:31.040 been actually been a reality for decades, pretty much since the fax machine came out. Even if
00:01:34.860 delusional unions won't accept it and callow politicians won't deal with it. The Canada,
00:01:40.160 this crown corporation lost five billion, no, three billion dollars since 2018. And the losses are
00:01:45.180 growing by the year. Home delivery by letter mail used to be their prime service. That service
00:01:50.120 peaked in 2006 with 5.5 billion letters delivered. In 2023, that number of letters had dropped to 2.2
00:01:56.480 billion, and it's only going to continue to drop. Look, people don't need letters delivered to their
00:02:01.040 homes anymore. Email and electronic documents have replaced letter mail, and it's only diehard
00:02:06.220 romantics and great-grandma Abby sending her annual Christmas checks to grandchildren who still
00:02:11.260 correspond by mail. You know, romance is lovely, and great-grandmothers are fantastic, but it
00:02:15.660 doesn't justify maintaining an obsolete service at a cost of billions of dollars. In an astounding
00:02:20.760 act of financial illiteracy and greed, though, the Canadian Union of postal workers, they've served
00:02:25.480 strike notice. Yeah, the unions refused and offered an 11.5% raise, and they're demanding large raises,
00:02:31.120 along with protections against technology that might take their jobs. Look, unless Canada Post can
00:02:36.620 somehow illegalize email and fax machines, I'm not sure how these jobs are going to be protected.
00:02:40.400 It's time to call the Cup W Bluff. Let them strike. Go for it, guys. It's only going to speed the
00:02:46.640 inevitable process of winding down Canada's National Postal Service anyways. The postal workers will
00:02:51.700 lose what little political capital they had in public support anyways, because, as usual, they pick
00:02:56.780 Christmas, and they're going to delay grandma's Christmas checks, and they're going to drive the 0.56
00:02:59.860 few businesses still using antiquated postal services into modernizing their systems. Indeed, even city
00:03:05.240 governments are moving to alternative communication systems in anticipation of this strike.
00:03:09.600 civic bureaucracies are slow to change, and they're often supportive of unions, but the
00:03:15.140 posties have pushed it too far. Municipal mail-outs make up a large part of the dwindling mail going
00:03:19.440 now, and it's going to end. They're not going to move back to Canada Post after the strike ends.
00:03:23.740 The inefficiencies within Canada's bloated postal service, they're myriad. I mean, to begin with,
00:03:27.940 there simply isn't enough need to have mail delivered five days a week. Most Canadians can get
00:03:32.440 by a service once, maybe twice a week. Most of the mails these days is junk anyhow, and we don't need it
00:03:37.480 arriving in a timely manner. And then that junk mail is declining too, because businesses are moving to
00:03:41.140 more efficient electronic means of promotion and marketing. All door-to-door home mail and
00:03:46.640 delivery has to end. It's ridiculous that money's still being spent to have a postal carrier walk
00:03:51.400 to one-third of the homes in Canada five days a week. Canada Post realized this years ago and began
00:03:56.880 moving services to centralized boxes, but unfortunately in 2016, the union cut a deal with
00:04:01.940 Justin Trudeau, and they halted the conversion, so a third of the country is still getting home 1.00
00:04:06.240 delivery of mail. Postal carriers work short days with long pay. They even have taxis delivering
00:04:12.440 them to their postal walks in some cities so they don't have to suffer the indignity of riding a bus
00:04:16.540 like the commoners. Let's face it, being a postal worker is a good gig. They're highly paid, enjoy full
00:04:21.780 benefits, and a generous pension for what's really a relatively unskilled job. If Canada Post was to cut
00:04:26.880 two-thirds of the workforce, you can rest assured the remaining third who were employed would suddenly
00:04:31.740 discover work ethics, and they'd be able to put in those 40-hour work weeks the rest of us get to
00:04:35.620 enjoy. If unions truly cared about workers, what they would be negotiating for right now would be
00:04:40.140 transitioning packages and job training for the postal workers who are going to be facing layoffs
00:04:44.140 in the coming years. Unions rarely care about workers, however, and they know the Canada Post is
00:04:48.880 speeding towards a fiscal wall. They don't care. The union heads just want to milk the company for as
00:04:53.440 much in dues as they possibly can before the crash comes. Let the postal workers strike. Let
00:04:58.600 them demonstrate to Canadians just how little we actually need them. Then the environment will be 0.99
00:05:02.520 ripe to restructure Canada Post and cut the service down to a tiny fraction of what it is. I mean,
00:05:06.760 some remote regions still need subsidized delivery services, and a trickle of letter mail service can
00:05:11.020 still be provided to centralized postal stations. Private operators are already dominating the package
00:05:16.460 delivery market, and they'll fill the demand much more efficiently than a crown corporation ever could.
00:05:20.400 Giving in to the postal union, that would be tacitly admitting the Canada Post is expecting
00:05:25.940 another taxpayer bailout. They're losing billions of the current model, and they'd only lose billions
00:05:30.300 more if they capitulate to the unions. There's no use in continuing to keep this dying organization
00:05:34.620 on life support. Like blockbuster video and home milk delivery, the service isn't required any longer,
00:05:40.020 and we should be facilitating the natural evolution of this industry rather than trying to fight it.
00:05:45.220 Either way, that's all we got going. I'm not worried too much about them going on strike,
00:05:48.160 because to be honest, guys, I don't really care. You can't hold a sausage anymore. Too damn bad.
00:05:52.700 All right, well, that's got me going to start things off today. Let's check in with our
00:05:55.980 news editor, Dave Naylor, and see what else is going on out there. Hey, Dave, how's it going?
00:05:59.020 Hello, Corey.
00:06:00.220 Hey, Dave. Yeah, yeah.
00:06:02.640 What am I going to do without my junk mail?
00:06:04.840 Well, I think you can get an app, and you can get all the online flyers you want coming straight to
00:06:10.100 your phone, so you can annoy me at the superstore lineup while you're pulling every bloody coupon in
00:06:13.880 front of me when I'm just trying to buy some milk. 0.72
00:06:15.200 Junk mail and bills, that's all I get.
00:06:17.340 Pretty much, yes.
00:06:18.120 So what's going on at your house? I see a strange video that Jane put up.
00:06:21.800 You got a rat in the house?
00:06:23.840 Rat.
00:06:24.480 It looks massive. 0.84
00:06:26.020 It's a vole. It's big.
00:06:27.660 And that deranged, brain-damaged cat that somehow we'd acquired brings them in and leaves them
00:06:34.300 alive in our house rather than taking care of mice and varmints and taking them out.
00:06:38.600 So, yeah, it was quite interesting. The cat ignored that thing, and Jane actually led it 0.52
00:06:44.220 like a pied vole piper out the door. The thing followed her. 0.97
00:06:47.760 I thought it was a rat, then I remembered Alberta's rat frame. 0.57
00:06:50.700 That's right.
00:06:51.200 And I thought maybe a baby muskrat or a baby beaver, and then maybe a vole.
00:06:56.280 It was bigger than our average mouse. I mean, there's, yeah, I share the game cam pictures
00:06:59.960 with the cougars and the deer and the bears, which are kind of interesting, but the reality
00:07:02.780 of country living, too, means we get those bloody rodents now.
00:07:05.360 And you know what they say about the same as mice. If you see one of them, you know there's
00:07:08.480 another hundred all lurking around somewhere in your basement.
00:07:11.940 Well, I think they're outside. Like I said, that stupid cat brings them in. 1.00
00:07:14.740 So we do get some mice in the house, but I have to take care of them. 1.00
00:07:17.360 Quick horror.
00:07:19.120 Right here, Lucy.
00:07:19.840 I noticed when I meet someone for the first time, I am most attracted to a guy who smiles
00:07:24.120 in the basement.
00:07:25.560 In the basement. No bigger than a broom closet, literally. And for some reason, started to smell,
00:07:31.740 and we couldn't figure it out. Eventually, the smell got so bad, my dad decided to tear
00:07:37.900 down the wall. And there were just dozens and dozens and dozens of dead, decaying mice
00:07:43.040 causing that stink. So I hope this doesn't happen to you in bowls.
00:07:48.240 So far, nothing of this sort. Glad to make me think of that tonight, you know, as I listen
00:07:52.620 for scratching in the walls.
00:07:53.900 Yeah, I'm sure Jane won't sleep tonight. Anyways, quick news update, because I'm excited
00:07:57.640 about your guest. Yes. My mom wanted me to get his autograph, but he's not in studio.
00:08:02.440 So our site is leading off with Stephen Harper last night, got an award for his support of
00:08:09.340 the State of Israel. And of course, the usual crowd was outside trying to disrupt it and cause
00:08:15.380 chaos. But for the first time, they were a bit more subdued because a huge lineup of huge
00:08:21.040 police horses were there. And I don't think they wanted much to do with dealing with police
00:08:27.200 horses. So that was good.
00:08:32.000 President-elect Trump's new borders are Tom Holman calls Canada an extreme natural, extreme
00:08:40.300 national security vulnerability because of our border weaknesses. So we Mark Miller, our
00:08:46.340 immigration minister was on a press conference and he was asked about the comments and his
00:08:50.600 reply is up now. You're an early riser, aren't you?
00:08:53.900 Yeah, typically. Did you see the meteor this morning? 6.30, a meteor blazed across Alberta
00:09:00.100 skies, visible all the way from Montana to Edmonton.
00:09:03.900 Geez, right about then I'd have been sitting around drinking coffee, reading the news, not
00:09:06.740 realizing it.
00:09:07.400 Yeah, so the video of it is up on our website for all people like you who missed it.
00:09:12.700 Another horror story from Remembrance Day. We've had a lot of them. This comes from a Muslim 1.00
00:09:18.900 York University female professor by the name of Aliyah Khan. She filmed herself yelling,
00:09:25.700 F you to veterans as they walked along a Toronto street. Just disgusting. Speaking of disgusting, 1.00
00:09:33.500 we have our columnist David Marsden taking a run at Mayor Gondek for her ridiculous comments 0.97
00:09:39.400 on Remembrance Day and how we're all settlers. And a big historic day in Washington. President
00:09:46.500 Trump walked back into the Oval Office for the first time in four years and President Biden
00:09:53.800 said, welcome back. And they've had a private meeting and a good long discussion. So that's
00:09:59.200 what's been happening this morning. It's good. I mean, I pointed that out online. I'm happy
00:10:03.700 that the, as I said, this outgoing president is being more civilized about the transition
00:10:08.700 of power than the last outgoing president was. And I know it gets my viewers worked up, but
00:10:13.200 I'm not a Trump fan. I would still vote for him as a lesser evil, but no, I don't think
00:10:16.900 he's a good person and I just hope he does good things. But at least Mr. Biden's cooperating
00:10:21.600 for what he can. Yeah, he's got some interesting cabinet picks, that's for sure. Yeah, he certainly
00:10:25.400 is. I know there's a lot to look forward to yet. Yep. Right on. Well, thanks, Steve.
00:10:29.100 And thanks for the visions of rotting mice in my walls to keep in mind tonight. You're
00:10:33.100 very welcome. I appreciate it. As our news editor, Dave Naylor. And yeah, as you can hear,
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00:11:24.760 So, you know, some of the Canada Post discussion, it's, it's, look, guys, I mean, so, you know,
00:11:31.620 it's, you know, this blownie out of DKI research saying, you know, that because it's a crown
00:11:38.000 corporation, it can't lose money. Yes, it can, actually. It's lost $3 billion, and it's going
00:11:42.540 deeper and deeper in debt. What does happen eventually is they got to get bailed out. The Canadian
00:11:48.760 citizens in the end are the owners of this. And when the debt amounts to too much, you either got
00:11:54.900 to shut it down, or you got to tap the taxpayers to bail it out. We're backstopping this industry.
00:12:00.080 Otherwise, nobody would provide them the credit to carry on with such massive losses. And it's got
00:12:06.280 to be cut. I mean, it doesn't mean there's zero posts. There's the hysterics from the lazy postal
00:12:10.180 workers. And that's usually who we hear from on social media getting so upset because, hey,
00:12:13.340 they got a good gig. They know it. They want to protect it. Well, good for you. But I'm sick of paying
00:12:17.440 for it. It's kind of like the CBC as far as that goes. Say, we wouldn't have a country without
00:12:21.400 Canada Post. Oh, baloney, we wouldn't. You wouldn't have a country without the CBC. Yes,
00:12:24.400 we would. In fact, we'd have a better country. And yes, we can subsidize some degree of delivery to
00:12:30.560 rural areas and things like that. But let's get real. We don't need this giant, expensive,
00:12:36.520 inefficient dinosaur of a crown corporation any longer. We just don't. The world has changed.
00:12:42.240 The world's changed. Banks give us our bank statements online. You can do your online banking.
00:12:49.200 You know, you can correspond with anybody in seconds through email. You know, your bills,
00:12:54.200 the rest, you just don't need it. You really want those things? Pay for a private service. You know,
00:12:58.800 Canada Post had an opportunity on the package thing, but they blew that. Their package delivery
00:13:03.640 sales have dropped to a tiny fraction and the private market's eating it up. That's fine.
00:13:07.540 Let the private market do it. That's a growth area, but we don't need a crown corporation to do it. 0.95
00:13:13.440 So either way, you know, don't have to believe me. Let these clowns go on strike. Go on strike for a 0.99
00:13:18.860 month or two. Go for it. Because, you know, the people who, you know, used to get Canada Postal
00:13:25.140 Service, when the strike comes, they're going to find other areas of service. They're going to find
00:13:28.520 somebody else to fill that void. They're going to change their practices. They're going to go to more
00:13:31.900 electronic billing, more electronic payments. Do you think they're going to go back to Canada
00:13:35.660 Post after the strike? Not a chance. Not a chance. So, I mean, you're just speeding along
00:13:40.940 a progression that was supposed to happen anyways, guys. Don't listen to the union. They're not
00:13:45.040 thinking about you. They're just thinking about the union. And you might want to think about finding
00:13:48.600 a new job. All right, let's see what else we got. You know, speaking of hypocrites, just one thing I
00:13:53.820 want to point out before we get to our guest. Look at the numbers. We've got COP29 going on. It's the 0.97
00:13:58.560 UN Climate Conference. You know, we're a bunch of well-heeled politicos and environmentalists like to get
00:14:03.220 together and rub shoulders and tell us all how to tighten our belts and live a little more frugally
00:14:08.800 and save the world. Last year, it was in Dubai and 85,000 of them flew out there to tell us how to
00:14:15.180 live. This year, only 50,000 went because it's in Azerbaijan. It's interesting. I guess the climate
00:14:19.780 crisis must be going down when, you know, 30% fewer of them need to go out. Or could it be that they just
00:14:25.160 only like going to the shindigs when there are places like Dubai that offer a lot of five-star
00:14:30.100 accommodations and luxury living? The hypocrisy of some of these guys is pretty galling, but those
00:14:34.800 numbers sort of tell the tale. All right, so let's get on to our guest. I've been looking forward to 0.96
00:14:39.380 this investigative journalist, Sam Cooper. He's not in studio. He's here remotely, but I really
00:14:46.800 appreciate him taking the time to talk to us today. Hello. Good to see you again, and thank you for
00:14:51.700 joining us, Mr. Cooper. Good to be here, Corey. So, I mean, it's hard to keep up. I thought I was ready
00:14:57.240 to, you know, with what I was going to speak with you, but then I got the email from the Bureau,
00:15:00.180 and I see you've got yet another breaking sort of story coming up. Can you kind of lay out what
00:15:05.040 you just sent out about, what, half an hour ago or so? Yeah, this breaking story indicates that
00:15:11.240 Commissioner Mary Jose Ogue of the Hogue Commission into Foreign Interference just released a ruling today,
00:15:19.660 weeks after the phase of hearing from witnesses has closed, a pretty stunning ruling. She says that
00:15:26.440 she's granting a complete anonymity to two secret protected witnesses because they have either
00:15:34.320 life safety threats or threats of serious repercussions to their lives in Canada.
00:15:42.180 Her ruling says that they have direct evidence regarding how Beijing's United Front foreign influence
00:15:49.340 arm allegedly targets Chinese-Canadian political candidates and community groups. So, Corey, as you
00:15:56.000 know, this has been the thrust of my reporting that drove the Hogue inquiry that China uses,
00:16:02.880 nefarious networks inside Canada that threaten Canadians and attempt to leverage politicians. So,
00:16:10.280 really, it just, it adds concrete evidence that this judge from Quebec is saying she's so concerned
00:16:16.280 with the credible safety threats that she's going to seal records from these two secret witnesses for 99 years.
00:16:22.000 Really? That's sealing the records of their identity, but she still wants to hear the testimony, right?
00:16:28.840 She wants to hear their testimony in affidavit form, and I believe there could be in-camera or secret
00:16:35.640 interviews, but done in such a way that the public will receive very sanitized, anonymized summaries.
00:16:44.600 And so, for your viewers and listeners that are wondering, could direct witnesses such as these that
00:16:51.520 have evidence of what politicians may have been colluding with Beijing, will they be named? I don't
00:16:57.360 think they'll be named in these documents, but at least it looks to me positive that the commission
00:17:02.500 wants to hear from people with serious evidence and serious safety concerns that need to be protected.
00:17:07.500 Okay, so we probably won't be seeing any specific bombshells getting that tight, but as you said,
00:17:12.820 it's a good trend that they even want to have this in here, and they're putting the protections up for
00:17:15.980 these witnesses to come forward. So, it is a good indication they're taking this inquiry seriously.
00:17:20.400 This has always been my view that they've got to some good evidence, and I believe they only have
00:17:27.520 the tip of the iceberg, of course, evident to the public. They're holding back so much information.
00:17:34.440 Justin Trudeau and his cabinet have held back documents that they claim are not pointing
00:17:43.020 to nefarious activities, so why are they holding them back? And so, I do believe this commission
00:17:48.540 has been valuable. It's proven that something very deeply nefarious is happening, and yet I still think
00:17:54.800 it's minimizing what the public knows in a big way. So, some information we're getting, though,
00:18:00.540 I guess you could say is coming from China itself. Yesterday, what you broke with Beijing endorsed
00:18:06.620 41 of the races or candidates in them in the 2019 election. I mean, the evidence just keeps mounting
00:18:13.940 about how heavily invested they were in that election, and they're not hiding it even, it seems.
00:18:20.800 Absolutely, Corey. To briefly explain the power of this document, I, as you know,
00:18:26.160 I have community sources from Asia throughout Canada that are so deeply concerned, much like
00:18:32.720 these witnesses that will be protected by Hoag, with how they are threatening Canada, and how the
00:18:38.240 penetration of the CCP into Canada's democracy is far beyond what most people understand. So,
00:18:44.740 these sources provided to me a Chinese Communist Party record from an entity that is specifically
00:18:50.480 tasked to influence ethnic Chinese people wherever they live in the world to surveil them, to mobilize
00:18:58.560 them when China needs them. And this document explains how Beijing was very satisfied that 41 candidates
00:19:05.760 that it viewed, according to expert Charles Burton, it viewed as potentially useful, were nominated in
00:19:13.040 the 2019 contest. And it described, very succinctly how China was pleased with those results, but wanted
00:19:21.200 to see improvements, you know, more leveraging of these community associations into our politics.
00:19:28.400 And a nugget from this Chinese Communist Party document that I know your viewers will find important
00:19:34.080 is it says, Little Trudeau, or the translation is Trudeau Jr, specifically went into the heart of a
00:19:42.160 Toronto area ridings that Beijing views as important to themselves because they feel they would like
00:19:49.360 to control the Chinese populations there. Trudeau went there seeking votes days before the 2019 election.
00:19:56.320 So this piece of evidence, I believe, suggests that it tells us why Justin Trudeau was standing in the
00:20:03.520 way of evidence coming out in the inquiry. The document indicates that Trudeau wanted to get votes,
00:20:10.720 and that Beijing knows he wants those votes. Furthermore, it says that Mr. Trudeau appointing
00:20:18.000 the candidate from the area he visited, Minister Merying, was seen as very, you know,
00:20:23.840 very notable by the Chinese Communist Party. But the key figure here is 41 candidates endorsed.
00:20:30.640 It was just incredibly sophisticated, the analysis pointing to how that was better than the past few
00:20:37.120 elections. But China wants to cultivate and control, unfortunately, more political talent within the diaspora.
00:20:46.320 So I just, you know, as things keep breaking, you know, the reports are going to keep coming.
00:20:50.400 But I want to kind of dial things back. And I can't suggest strongly enough to our viewers to read your book,
00:20:55.440 Willful Blindness and the latest edition of it, because it really gives the backstory on the why, you know,
00:21:02.320 the Chinese are so interested in influencing Canada. And it's just really astounding. You've been working
00:21:07.520 on this for, what, over 15 years now. And, you know, the money laundering, the interest in the lower
00:21:14.640 mainland British Columbia, perhaps, you know, it was astounding reading that, just how integrated into
00:21:21.040 our economy they are down there and seeing why they're so interested in everything from the drug
00:21:24.480 trade to casinos. It read like a spy novel. And but it was chilling and knowing that it was real.
00:21:31.440 Can you kind of expand a bit on that? Yeah, Corey, you're exactly right. I feel that I sort of
00:21:37.120 stumbled into this story with my interest in Vancouver's inexplicable real estate prices.
00:21:44.720 Everyone knew that massive amounts of money from offshore and mostly East Asia, Hong Kong,
00:21:49.760 mainland China, other areas was flowing into our Vancouver's condo towers. But people were not
00:21:57.520 curious about the nature of this mystery money. So I chased down the origins very tightly associated to
00:22:05.760 what is called international Chinese mafia underground banking, casino money laundering,
00:22:12.240 real estate money laundering. And I was able to start to get my handle on the scale
00:22:16.960 of that money laundering activity, which is in Vancouver. It's also in Calgary, Toronto,
00:22:22.800 it's across Canada, I've now discovered. And this was my work was termed, a professor looked at it said
00:22:30.080 this is the Vancouver model of money laundering. So the key thing here I discovered is not only is this
00:22:36.480 money laundering from foreign nations that are involved in the fentanyl trade, but there's a direct
00:22:43.760 strategic aspect to the money laundering that is these very same Chinese Communist Party political
00:22:50.080 interference networks, that's called the United Front, that are supporting candidates that they
00:22:55.680 want to see in parliament, are involved with organized crime in operations to corrupt Canada's
00:23:02.160 political system to raise funds to influence our society. And so it all rolls together. And I'll end my
00:23:08.640 answer here that yes, my book, walking on the ground floor doing that shoe leather reporting,
00:23:14.560 I discovered really this unbelievable connection between hostile state activity and organized crime.
00:23:21.040 And this is the very activity that now the US government is saying, reports have come out saying
00:23:27.520 that they need to tell the American people fentanyl is being strategically delivered into North America by
00:23:34.160 the Chinese Communist Party, with connections to Chinese mafias. And this is part of what they call 1.00
00:23:40.800 I know this is shocking term, but a clandestine hybrid war tactic that China is using against North
00:23:47.200 America. So my book was a for forerunner in an area now very much at the center of the US government's
00:23:54.720 response mechanisms. Well, and I appreciate you exposing it. And something else you pointed out was even the
00:23:59.920 Sinaloa and cartels have been involved in the you know, some of this and tied in just today in the
00:24:04.800 Western standard report on the BC investigators, they disorganized the Mexican drug cartel funded
00:24:10.080 group in Surrey. So I mean, Canada is turning into quite a jumping off point. But something that you
00:24:16.080 mentioned in the book too, as you said, you know, I guess it wasn't that surprising, but the CCP had
00:24:20.480 opened a file. And of course, they were watching you. Are you concerned about your own safety? I mean,
00:24:24.480 you're kind of, you know, ticking off some people who could be people of concern. I mean, I really
00:24:29.360 appreciate your work. But when you have to hide the witnesses and things like that as deeply as we
00:24:33.840 do to get them to come testify. How are you taking care of yourself? Yeah, Corey, very honestly, due to
00:24:40.400 my work, which included testifying in Parliament, when when I was summoned to reveal my knowledge of
00:24:47.920 how China targets Canadian politicians in a threatening way, I told Parliament that I had been targeted in
00:24:56.240 the same way as someone that is bringing critical information that hurts the Beijing regime's
00:25:02.560 interest to the surface. And after testifying in Parliament, fulfilling my duty as a Canadian,
00:25:09.120 an RCMP National Security Unit knocked on my door in Ottawa and said they had received a credible safety
00:25:16.240 threat regarding my reporting on the People's Republic of China. So mark this, I just told you a breaking
00:25:23.280 story today. The whole commission has said they're protecting witnesses for safety reasons for these
00:25:29.200 very same issues. So no one can deny this is happening. Corey, I have to be honest that I have friends in
00:25:35.600 law enforcement, military circles in North America, I keep them apprised of the work that they see very
00:25:43.600 important that I'm very important that I'm doing. But I'm not armed. I'm out there doing this work for
00:25:49.840 the interest of Canada. And it's not only safety threats, but I believe very nefarious lawyers in
00:25:56.640 Canada are working to, you know, people to defend the reputations of people that claim they've been
00:26:04.320 wronged. Corey, they haven't been wronged. The people that are suing me could be the people involved in
00:26:11.520 attacking other Canadian politicians. So these are the types of threats I face. And on a bad day,
00:26:17.200 I tell you, I wonder, you know, maybe the United States is the home of the free and brave and Canada
00:26:21.600 isn't anymore. And maybe I should think about, think about a move in the future. Well said,
00:26:26.800 you would have to think about that. But I mean, as per the title of your book, willful blindness,
00:26:30.560 I mean, you talk about some of the buildings and agencies. And I mean, Canadian security agencies have
00:26:37.360 been aware of this for a long time. It's only the fact that you've been pushing it out. In fact,
00:26:41.920 you kind of imply they're counting on journalists and people like yourself to get this information
00:26:45.760 out because Canadian laws don't really allow them to disclose these sorts of things and expose them.
00:26:51.920 Are there systematic things we could do to aid, I guess, with our agencies so they could,
00:26:56.080 you know, bring this more to light? Absolutely. You're right. And I'll get to that. I want to jump on
00:27:02.000 a point you raised. It came up very recently. I had learned from the RCMP that officers wanted senior,
00:27:11.200 you know, public safety bureaucrats and RCMP leaders to go after these Chinese communist police 0.99
00:27:16.320 stations, which are targeting diaspora members with violence and threats and harassment. This was
00:27:22.880 known by RCMP officers from after 2010. Nothing happened until my report and others pointed to this
00:27:30.560 nefarious activity and safety risks. Same for CSIS. They knew this was going on. They were tracking it,
00:27:36.720 but they weren't acting on it. So yes, there's a huge gap between what police and intelligence know
00:27:43.680 is happening in Canada and what they can do or what the political will allows them to do to tackle it.
00:27:50.240 So I would say in terms of the measures needed, of course, we have supposedly we have a new foreign 1.00
00:27:56.400 interference transparency law in place. I haven't seen any names or I haven't even seen the register
00:28:01.440 where these names of foreign agents are supposed to be registered. But very clearly I've said it over
00:28:06.640 and again, the United States law enforcement will protect its citizens no matter what the race,
00:28:12.400 if they're Iranian, if they're Chinese, if they're from anywhere and they come to live in that country 0.75
00:28:17.840 to exercise their freedoms. US law enforcement has the power to put away agents being hired by foreign
00:28:25.920 intelligence and mafias to target people. Canada needs those types of laws and we're very far away 0.95
00:28:31.200 from having them. Well, and I mean, just getting a little more on the political end, but it's still
00:28:35.840 it ties in. I mean, the American, there's a new administration coming in that's very protectionist,
00:28:40.880 speaking up a lot more on the security of their borders. And Canada, to be honest, starts to look like
00:28:46.000 a security threat, like for the sake of our trade, for the sake of our Canadians and Americans traveling
00:28:50.800 freely back and forth on the border. We really want to tighten this mess up because it's sort
00:28:55.680 of an embarrassment and it's inspiring the states to hinder travel between our countries.
00:29:00.880 There's no question that's happening. And, you know, I have liked traveling to Mexico in the past,
00:29:07.200 but I'll never go there again because I've talked to the people there. I've been to certain spots and
00:29:12.240 they're run by organized crime cartels. The corruption is top to bottom. Why I raise that
00:29:17.520 is that people in the United States, highly, you know, knowledgeable and well-placed start to see
00:29:24.080 Canada as, you know, captured. That is, our cities have a deep problem with organized crime. You just
00:29:31.680 mentioned super labs in BC, in the mountainous areas, in Alberta, tied to Mexican and Chinese,
00:29:39.600 Mexican cartels, Chinese triads using our country. Look, you're right. The US administration isn't
00:29:47.120 going to put up with that. There will be a new war on fentanyl cartels. And Canada could be,
00:29:53.920 come into a lot of scrutiny for our role in those international networks.
00:29:59.200 Yeah. And that fentanyl is just doing horrific damage throughout all of North America right now.
00:30:04.000 And if we're pinpointed as the source of it coming into the United States, I can't blame them for
00:30:09.840 starting to crack down on us. It's a terrible outcome. As these hearings, you know, before I
00:30:14.960 finish, I guess, you know, they're going, do you expect anything productive to come from this though?
00:30:19.040 It just seems like they keep kicking the can down the road and kicking the can down the road and we
00:30:22.400 never actually achieve anything. You're right. One of the most credible witnesses I found, in my view,
00:30:28.880 was MP Michael Chan, who was targeted, as we know, along with his family by the Ministry of State
00:30:34.640 Security and Trudeau's administration did nothing and then had the audacity to claim in the hearings
00:30:41.440 that this was normal diplomatic activity. No reasonable person believes that. Mr. Chan
00:30:48.640 told the Hogue Commission, even this commission itself is a form of kicking the can.
00:30:54.000 We've known this activity is going on for a long time. My reports exposed it and no changes happen.
00:31:00.880 So I think he said this is just a Canadian sort of wrapping a problem in process after process and not
00:31:07.840 dealing with it. So that said, I do believe the Hogue Commission is a step. There have been some
00:31:14.960 significant revelations and confirmations. I still believe minimizing the problem in an extreme way.
00:31:22.800 But it's taking a baby step. And I really do believe it's up to the Canadian voting public
00:31:28.800 to make this a top three issue. And, you know, that's up to people like myself and you to make
00:31:35.600 people know, to let them know how important this is and how this ties into housing affordability,
00:31:41.840 fentanyl deaths and other issues that they don't understand yet.
00:31:44.880 Yeah, they directly impact people a lot more than they necessarily understand.
00:31:48.720 I mean, there's a lot of people are dealing with and, you know, it's the only one to cope with so
00:31:52.320 much. But this is very important to everybody. And I really, really appreciate the amount of work
00:31:57.280 you've done and the work you're continuing to do. So before I let you go, your book is Willful
00:32:01.280 Blindness. It's in its third edition now. I guess part of the reason is just this keeps unfolding
00:32:06.160 and unfolding. So you have to keep updating, which I appreciate. And you've got the Bureau as well.
00:32:11.680 So if people want to keep up exactly with what you've been on, you've been so prolific. I don't
00:32:15.840 know when you sleep. Where can people find a copy of your book? And how can they get to subscribe to
00:32:21.280 the Bureau?
00:32:21.600 Yeah, so just Google the Bureau dot news. That's where my brand and platform is up. It's on the
00:32:28.880 Substack app if you're on Substack, but I have my direct website home. So the Bureau dot news,
00:32:35.200 first and foremost, you're right, I'm up to over 12,000 on my email list. Once that gets up over to
00:32:42.320 20, 25,000, everyone in Canada will have to take this news outlet very seriously. So it's going in the
00:32:49.360 right direction, go there first. And you can go to Amazon and look for Willful Blindness,
00:32:55.200 third edition, and that's rising up the charts again. And you're right. I think this will be the
00:33:00.720 last update, the third edition, and then it's on to a new book. But this book has certainly been read in
00:33:07.600 capitals around the world by people that know the problems facing us very well.
00:33:13.840 Well, I really appreciate the work you've done and the work you're continuing to do. And of course,
00:33:17.760 you're taking your time to come speak to us today. So thank you very much. Be safe and keep it up.
00:33:23.120 I hope we get to talk again sometime soon. Me too. Thanks, Corey. Great. Thank you.
00:33:28.080 So again, that was Sam Cooper. And as he said, the book is Willful Blindness. And like I said,
00:33:32.800 it's not a dry read. He actually writes it excellently. It's a nice style of writing that makes
00:33:40.240 it an enjoyable read. And you have to check yourself now and then to realize, though, this isn't fiction.
00:33:45.120 This is real things happening in Canada, that how integrated the foreign operators have been in the
00:33:51.280 economy, in money laundering, and how dangerous this is to all of us as well. You know, I was
00:33:57.520 talking earlier about independent media, the importance of it and keeping it rolling, because,
00:34:01.600 yeah, government funded media, they're not going to want to shake the tree that's embarrassing Trudeau,
00:34:05.760 or even the next government. I mean, this has been happening prior to Trudeau. We lay a lot of this
00:34:10.160 at Trudeau's feet. But Mr. Cooper was working on this before Trudeau was even in power in Canada.
00:34:17.360 So get on, check it out, the Bureau, subscribe. This is how he can keep operating. This is how he
00:34:21.840 pays his bills. And I mean, like I said, he's got some balls. I mean, these are dangerous people. 0.99
00:34:26.640 He's annoying, and he's still pushing forward. You know, they're giving all that protection and
00:34:31.360 anonymity to those witnesses. But Sam Cooper has his own name out there. So, you know, help support
00:34:36.480 them, guys. Get on there. The Bureau on Substack, subscribe, you know, spend a few bucks on it.
00:34:42.320 It's how to keep these things going. And I mean, he has broken so much stuff. He's the go-to for
00:34:48.400 the intelligence agents and the others impacted to leak information too, so they can get it out there.
00:34:54.720 It's really, really important. I was really thrilled he came on to talk to us again today,
00:34:59.040 because his work has just been, it's been making changes. It's been changing things. It's forcing this
00:35:05.200 country to deal with a problem that's been festering. And as I said, security agencies are
00:35:10.240 aware of it. They know this, but they're bound in Canada. They can't release it. But the Americans,
00:35:15.520 as Sam said, they will crack down on this. And this is harder on us, us as Canadians,
00:35:21.680 the works. It's brutal. He said he won't go to Mexico anymore. And it's sad. It's a beautiful
00:35:25.680 country, but it's true. Mexico, I mean, the corruption down there is unreal. I go down regularly. We get the 1.00
00:35:31.680 teeth done down in Algodones, just on the other side of the Mexican border. But the
00:35:34.720 interesting thing when you go down to use those dentists down there and you cross that border,
00:35:38.000 of course, it's just a revolving gate to go in. There's nothing else. On the way back,
00:35:41.360 it's a long line and heavy American border security. But you get on the other side
00:35:45.280 and you see a compound to the right with barbed wire, light armored vehicles. And you see those
00:35:50.640 vehicles blasting up and down the streets in Algodones. And these guys have got, you know,
00:35:54.720 assault rifles and fully masked faces and glasses on, because again, they're trying to make sure the area
00:35:59.600 and the business and the trade is kept safe from the local cartels, because there's an ongoing drug
00:36:04.640 war going on down there. But it's leaking up into Canada. And as we said, you know, since the
00:36:09.840 Sinaloa cartel involved in Vancouver, that's a long ways to go. But hey, they follow money.
00:36:14.240 And now as was just broken or, you know, reported on in the standard in Surrey, yeah, another drug
00:36:20.080 cartel, Mexican tide cartel was there was just a big bust there. This is scary stuff. Just keeps going.
00:36:27.920 By the way, I know somebody earlier, and I can't remember which comment or it was, it mentioned,
00:36:31.280 you know, so I'm just going to turn the page now, Azerbaijan, because that's where the COP29 summit is,
00:36:36.960 he said Azerbaijan is a beautiful country. That's true. I don't want to crap on Azerbaijan or any
00:36:40.880 country for that matter. It's just that if you're one of those travelers who likes going to those
00:36:45.280 shindigs, you know, those climate conferences, because that's all it is, is they stay in five 0.95
00:36:49.600 star hotels, eat top of the line food, fly first class, things that we can't imagine. And they get
00:36:54.000 their governments to pay for it and their charity organizations. But they're much more inclined to
00:36:58.400 go to places like Dubai, because Dubai has massive facilities and, you know, because they've used
00:37:03.520 virtual slave labor from India and things like that to maintain it in the Philippines.
00:37:07.360 They prefer to go there. That's why 85,000 of them went to Dubai, though, versus Azerbaijan,
00:37:12.400 which I'm sure, again, is a beautiful country and has some facilities, but just not quite the same
00:37:16.240 resources to really pamper these climate travelers, you know, like some of the other areas would.
00:37:25.040 So let's see what else have we got. Yeah, this came out in Blacklocks. I think it's been put out 1.00
00:37:30.160 in the standard now as well. Blacklocks reporter, another great independent outlet. Trudeau's liberals have
00:37:34.320 since 2016 sent nearly $286 million to the UNRWA. Now that's the United Nations Relief and Works
00:37:43.680 Agency. What it's also known as is a front for Hamas. It always has been. The money, the arms, 0.52
00:37:50.240 the tunnels, all of that stuff going to Hamas. I mean, the UNRWA has been getting billions over
00:37:55.520 the years from all different countries, yet somehow, oh my God, Gaza's an open air prison. Oh, 0.99
00:38:00.400 we can't feed our children. Sure, they got the money, but what do they do with it? They bought
00:38:04.640 rockets. They dug tunnels. Oh, and of course, their leadership lived in luxury. Well, Canada spent
00:38:10.880 $286 million, gave it to that group. And when it was found that not only that group, you know,
00:38:17.520 just funds the terrorism, they are the terrorists. UNRWA workers were found to have taken part in the
00:38:25.120 October 7th slaughter and rape of people at a music festival. Yeah, they directly took part in it.
00:38:32.960 And we stopped funding, almost every civilized country stopped funding the UNR, you know,
00:38:37.520 that group when they saw that. Except Canada two months later said, yeah, we're going to start giving
00:38:41.600 them money again. They've learned their lesson. Good Lord. This is what you work for, guys. This is what
00:38:46.080 you pay your taxes for, so they can fund terrorists. Literally. Literally. It's just, there's no end to it.
00:38:55.920 Canada. So, you know, here's more news. This is stuff that makes me optimistic, and yeah, has some
00:39:01.600 trepidation at the same time. You know, it's a big headline. Trump names it, and this is the fun thing.
00:39:05.520 I grabbed this headline from the CBC just to prompt myself so I could have something to speak of our state
00:39:09.200 broadcaster, which hopefully is on the way out as well. Trump names Elon Musk and more mega hardliners
00:39:15.600 to administration. You know, the bottom line is, incoming president appoints supporters to his
00:39:22.160 administration. That's the reality of it, but not the state broadcaster in Canada. Yes, he's going
00:39:27.280 to bring them in. If it had been Kamala Harris, she would have brought in a bunch of her lefty 1.00
00:39:31.440 supporters in there. That's the way these things works. It's called democracy. It's called politics.
00:39:35.200 But Green and Elon Musk is really interesting. It really is. What do they call it? The Department of
00:39:42.800 government efficiency or something like that? I think so. You know, Doge, they're kind of
00:39:45.920 going to play on the cryptocurrency that must support. But you see, bloated civil services
00:39:52.640 are crushing developed nations. They really are. They're hurting our productivity. I mean,
00:39:56.240 Canada is so much worse off than the Americans when it comes to this. You know, Trudeau bloated our
00:40:01.760 bureaucrats by, what, 40% since he got in. Our country hasn't grown by that much. We've got 40% more
00:40:07.120 government workers doing whatever the heck they do. Usually not a heck of a lot. Usually,
00:40:10.960 just going on strike a lot and whining about having to go into work two days a week.
00:40:15.600 Now, they're costing us a fortune. Canada's productivity, our GDP per capita is crap. We're 0.99
00:40:20.160 like $30,000 a year less than the Americans now, and it's dropping. And part of that reason is just
00:40:26.640 a whole bunch of our resources as a nation get poured into government, get poured into a bunch
00:40:31.120 of pointy-headed bureaucrats who push one piece of paper from a desk to another desk, if they even show
00:40:35.920 up at work to go to the desks. And they make a lot of money to do so. Somebody needs the knackers to
00:40:40.880 cut, cut heavily, cut deeply. Somebody who's got those kind of knackers in the States is Elon Musk.
00:40:46.880 He's not afraid of shaking the tree. The Americans have the problem not as badly as us, but they still
00:40:50.720 have it badly. And he's looking to go in and cut. This is the sort of thing that can inspire change
00:40:56.400 in Canada. Think about how bad Twitter got, for example, before Musk bought it. So he bought it.
00:41:03.200 He laid off 80% of the workers with Twitter. Any other company that was operating efficiently, decently,
00:41:11.520 if you cut 80% of the staff out, that company is in terrible trouble. It's not going to work
00:41:16.400 worth a crap. Yet they're fine. They're fine. You know, and everybody, it's funny, I've been
00:41:22.400 seeing reports about that. So I mean, that 80% of workers weren't doing a heck of a lot.
00:41:26.560 They weren't doing much at all. Censoring and a lot of things like that.
00:41:32.240 So he cut them out, things went fine. And I see reports, oh, look, their revenue's down,
00:41:36.240 their revenue's way down. Oh, you know, they're in trouble. You see, because it's private,
00:41:38.960 they can't find exactly what the net revenue is or what. But yeah, the revenue's down, but their
00:41:42.560 expenses are way, way down. And they're still there, guys. They're still doing fine. So let's see how much
00:41:49.040 he can do by cutting the civil service. Because I bet we can cut a whole whack and not feel it.
00:41:52.800 But here we got Kelly, a commenter saying, so much disinformation, everything you said. I'd love to
00:41:56.480 come do our job for two weeks and see how fast you change your mind. Yeah, yeah. No, I did a flyer
00:42:01.680 delivery boy stint before. It was pretty easy, actually. And to do it for the large pension and
00:42:06.480 wages and 30 so hours and taxi delivery that posties get to enjoy while they're at, I don't think I would
00:42:12.000 change my mind. And then I worked 20 years as a surveyor in the energy industry. I did heli portable jobs
00:42:17.360 carrying my tripod and backpack on my back up the Northern Rockies. I worked in the New Mexico
00:42:21.920 desert. I worked on the Gulf of Mexico carrying my stuff. Don't worry, guys, I'm not afraid of
00:42:25.200 physical labor. And I got paid well to do that. That's because it was a skilled position. And it
00:42:31.040 was based on merit. So no, don't start feeding me about how tough the job of the poor downtrodden
00:42:37.360 postie is. Hey, you get some rough days walking when it's a bit snowy. You get the odd dog get on your
00:42:42.640 case, things like that. That's fine. But it's still an industry in decline, one that we don't
00:42:47.680 need any longer in the form it's in. Face reality. Quit trying to keep this dead model alive.
00:42:56.480 Change it. Streamline it. There could still be a Canada Post, but it's got to be a tiny amount. I mean,
00:43:01.680 it gets back to what I'm talking about, the general civil service. You know, again,
00:43:05.440 they're not civil service. They're a crown corporation, which makes a weird blurry line.
00:43:09.920 But in reality, the taxpayers end up storing it up. And we just don't need to anymore, guys.
00:43:16.560 It doesn't mean we shut down the entire Canada Post, but we can cut it down to a tiny fraction
00:43:20.080 of what it is. And it's not going to bother people. It really isn't. We don't need them
00:43:24.640 like we used to. It's ridiculous. They're going door to door. AIMCO. We'll finish with that. 0.98
00:43:30.720 Here's an area I'm kind of mixed for people outside of Alberta. That's the investment corporation for
00:43:35.360 Alberta that manages pension plans and Alberta's heritage fund and things like that.
00:43:39.040 It's supposed to be an arm's length, non-political group, but it seems to be always politicized.
00:43:45.520 It's funny. The NDP in Alberta and everybody talk about how horrible AIMCO was, how terrible these
00:43:50.240 managers were. Oh, we can't trust the government with these pension plans and things like that.
00:43:54.320 Well, apparently, Premier Smith agreed because she fired the entire board of AIMCO and she's
00:43:59.840 going to appoint new heads to it. And then all of a sudden, the NDP said, what's she doing?
00:44:04.080 No. And the head and inchies up and up in arms and being all purple and doing what he does.
00:44:08.000 Oh, this is terrible. Wait a second. I thought you said they were incompetent. Well, yeah,
00:44:12.000 but we didn't want her to change. Well, come on, guys. You know, talking about trying to suck and
00:44:16.960 blow at the same time. But I do worry about it. I do. I don't want to see things like that 0.99
00:44:23.120 politicized. I don't care which person is in power. It's true. We do have to keep government,
00:44:27.440 like politicians' hands as far away from pension funds and things like that as humanly possible.
00:44:33.120 So when Premier Smith works to find out who's going to be the new board and who's going to run
00:44:38.240 AIMCO, there's rumors that it might be Stephen Harper. We'll see. But let's just hope that the
00:44:43.440 only goal of AIMCO ever should be maximizing returns on investments. That's it. Not developing
00:44:49.920 local Alberta businesses, not subsidizing political friends, not any of those sorts of things.
00:44:55.600 Just maximize returns. That's your only mandate. That's it. You start going beyond that. That's how
00:45:01.520 you either mismanage it and fly it down the toilet or you find corruption where people start using a
00:45:05.440 fund like that or the access to a fund like that to line their pockets. So I'm going to maintain
00:45:11.120 cautious optimism that Premier Smith, because I do like a lot of what she's done, is going to improve
00:45:16.640 AIMCO with the replacement of the people managing it and running it on that board. But it can also be
00:45:23.840 a recipe for disaster. So let's watch that really carefully, actually, and hope for the best and
00:45:29.440 keep an eye on it. Because if something like that starts to derail, we want to hit that sooner rather
00:45:35.520 than later. It's always easy to fix those things in hindsight once you've lost billions of dollars
00:45:39.120 in people's pensions, funds. Better to catch the problem before it happens. Okay, that's the time
00:45:45.200 I've got for today, guys. Thank you very much for joining in and tuning in. By the way, I'm going to
00:45:50.640 be moderating a panel at Mount Royal University, the Sovereign Minds Conference. If you're interested,
00:45:56.000 check it out. Look up Sovereign Minds. You can come on out there, register, come meet me and a whole
00:46:00.960 bunch of other people. It's going to be a really cool event going on this Saturday. And yes, we're
00:46:05.920 going to be on the pipeline a little later tonight, breaking down a few more of those issues and things are
00:46:09.600 always constantly coming down the line. So thank you all for tuning in today, guys.
00:46:13.840 And we will see you again this time next week and do it all again.
00:46:39.600 We'll see you again next week and we'll see you again next week and we'll see you again next week.