Western Standard - It’s time to MAGA Gaza

00:00:00.000 Good day.

00:00:29.240 welcome to the cory morgan show as you can see it's the same show but we've got a new background

00:00:33.960 we we have a view of the newsroom live behind me we see jen back there i've started that pool on x 0.96

00:00:39.560 for one of you guys you know trying to make your bets on when eventually somebody does something

00:00:44.440 untoward in the background so we can have fun with it but it certainly keeps everybody on their guard

00:00:49.000 in the newsroom gives something different to look at than that cityscape we used to have but the

00:00:52.600 subject matter is going to be the same still covering these issues ranting about things and

00:00:57.080 having interesting guests. And today is no exception. I got Professor Sylvain Charlebois

00:01:01.240 coming on in a little while. My name is the food professor. He's great. I'm talking about

00:01:05.480 things like supply management and just academia in general, because there's been some serious

00:01:09.880 issues within that. As well, of course, I'll be covering some new things, getting the updates and

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00:01:57.100 to rant about today, get things going. So let's talk, starting with President Trump, of course,

00:02:01.140 always in the news. And he's a bombastic character who shoots from the hip and often has departures

00:02:06.520 from the truth. It's hard to know when to take his music seriously or if he's just trying to

00:02:11.360 shake things up. Now, when it comes to Trump's proposal for Gaza, let's hope he's deadly serious.

00:02:16.160 is the best idea I've seen for the region yet.

00:02:19.420 Let's face it, the two-state solution's a dream

00:02:22.100 because the Arab world has utterly no interest in it. 0.73

00:02:25.160 While Israel has supported maintaining a blended population within its own borders,

00:02:28.880 Arab nations have ejected nearly every Jew from their countries.

00:02:32.180 Israel has over 2 million Arab citizens living peacefully and with full rights within it.

00:02:36.560 Rarely hear about that, though.

00:02:38.380 However, in 2005, Israel bent under international pressure,

00:02:42.420 disengaged from Gaza and the West Bank.

00:02:44.600 They shut down and dismantled 21 Jewish settlements, and the Palestinians were given free reign over the land. 1.00

00:02:50.520 It was a form of two-state solution, and billions of dollars came from other nations to help Palestinians build their state.

00:02:56.740 So what did the Palestinians do?

00:02:58.260 Well, as soon as they had control over the territories, they put the terrorist organization Hamas in charge of the government in Gaza

00:03:03.880 and empowered the terrorists of Hezbollah and the West Bank.

00:03:06.480 Instead of developing an economy and improving the standard of living for their people,

00:03:09.540 they dug hundreds of miles of terror tunnels to attack Israel.

00:03:12.940 Rather than expand infrastructure for their people,

00:03:14.740 they dug out water pipes and converted them into rockets to fire into Israel. 0.65

00:03:18.700 The Arab world has no interest in a two-state solution. 0.88

00:03:21.700 They want to wipe out every Jew in Israel and won't settle for anything less. 0.99

00:03:25.400 Listen to them when they tell you. 0.96

00:03:26.520 It's not like they make a secret of it, guys.

00:03:28.140 They pour funds into terrorist groups attacking Israel and chanting from the river to the sea.

00:03:32.620 There can't be any negotiation with them, 0.99

00:03:34.680 especially when the only demand is the annihilation of every Jew in the Middle East. 0.94

00:03:39.220 Yet world organizations expect Israel to negotiate with them.

00:03:42.280 With years of fundraising, digging, and planning, the Palestinian people set off their revolution in October 2023 by raiding a music festival and peaceful kibitzes. 0.67

00:03:52.900 They went on an orgy of torture, destruction, rape, and murder.

00:03:56.340 As they slaughtered over 1,200 people, they took hundreds of hostages who they tortured, raped, and often killed, and have only released them on occasion, went back against the wall.

00:04:04.900 They were given the world on the platter, with funding and access to one of the most beautiful coastlines on Earth.

00:04:09.600 Rather than embracing it, they devolved into subhuman savagery and expanded their culture of mindless hate. 0.98

00:04:15.820 They break every peace deal and yet again have broken another agreement to release hostages.

00:04:21.100 Palestinians have given up the right to the land bordering on Israel.

00:04:24.520 It's time they migrated to the Arab nations who funded their way by proxy. 1.00

00:04:28.480 They want to live in a Jew-free world. 1.00

00:04:30.780 Egypt and Jordan can offer that to them. 1.00

00:04:32.880 Their values of beating women and murdering gay people will be better accepted in those places anyways. 1.00

00:04:37.620 There's never been a country of Palestine, so let's quit pretending the world owes them one. 1.00

00:04:41.940 Palestinians will fit in as well in Egypt or Jordan as they will anywhere else, that's for sure. 0.98

00:04:45.740 It's rather telling how mortified, actually, Egyptians and Jordanians are at the prospect of an influx of Gazans within their midst. 1.00

00:04:51.620 They know they created a monster and they don't want to have to live with it.

00:04:54.800 Gaza provides a perfect buffer for Israel, and having a third party like the USA in charge of it, it's a good mediator. 0.99

00:05:02.760 the Strip could begin to meet its potential. With rebuilding focused on housing, hospitals,

00:05:06.240 schools, businesses, the region could prosper. Not to mention some nice casinos. That's only

00:05:10.680 going to happen under a third-party oversight. We know the Palestinians will just try and turn 1.00

00:05:14.040 the zone into another terrorism launch pad if given a chance. Let a Trump Tower rise on the

00:05:19.120 coast. Clean those beaches and build some resorts. Golf courses are prettier to look at than rocket

00:05:22.720 batteries. The area is a little more than rubble right now anyways, and that's purely due to the

00:05:26.680 intransigence of Gazans when it came to releasing the hostages. Israel wasn't going to stop until 0.51

00:05:32.440 every single citizen was accounted for, and they shouldn't. Displaced Palestinians, well, they would 1.00

00:05:37.120 be welcome to pursue working opportunities back in Gaza if they could prove they want to set aside

00:05:40.800 their hate and actually try to live peacefully. Any evidence of terrorist activity or planning

00:05:44.360 would be dealt with harshly. Quit pretending the Gazan people weren't supportive of the atrocities 0.99

00:05:49.600 on October 7th and the attacks launched on Israel since. Hamas couldn't hide hundreds of hostages

00:05:54.720 for over a year without participation from the public. They couldn't have planned for and launched

00:05:58.800 an assault on Israel like that without a complicit population. They made their bed.

00:06:03.140 Some time wandering in the desert would do the Gazan people some good. Offer them a chance for 1.00

00:06:06.940 some introspection and perhaps inspire them to evolve upward into maybe 18th century values.

00:06:12.620 They might even begin to consider women's rights one day. Hey, it served Moses and his bunch well 1.00

00:06:16.560 enough. Trump's offering the first feasible solution to the Palestinian issue we've seen 0.76

00:06:20.760 in generations. So yeah, on that one, let's hope he plans on following through with it.

00:06:24.540 All right. Well, there's my nice, simple rant for the day. Let's check in on Dave Naylor and see what else is going on in the news out there. Hey, Dave, how's it going?

00:06:31.960 Well, this is different, isn't it?

00:06:33.120 It is, it is.

00:06:33.880 I can see what my staff's doing. Hey, enough talking out there.

00:06:37.980 Babbling away with Jen.

00:06:39.600 Come on.

00:06:39.980 Yeah.

00:06:41.540 So, looking on Facebook, you found a couple of dead bees at your place and that makes you happy.

00:06:46.360 It does, it does.

00:06:47.340 Can you explain why?

00:06:48.160 Well, it's been, as we know, awfully cold out. I mean, in the little Prittis Valley, we've been hitting minus 30 in some of the mornings.

00:06:54.540 Dead bees outside of the hive are actually a good sign because it shows they're alive in there.

00:06:58.380 And when the bees die, when things warm up a little bit, they'll take the dead ones out,

00:07:02.920 bring out your dead, toss them out under the snow.

00:07:05.160 So you always worry that you've lost your hives over winter.

00:07:07.460 And when I go out and see a couple of dead ones laying there, I know that they're still kicking in there.

00:07:10.940 So my chances of having my hives make it through the winter look better.

00:07:13.780 Nice. So there is a chance that some spring honey?

00:07:16.940 Yeah. Once we get into the flow in May or so, I might get a little bit of an early harvest if those hives kick out well this year.

00:07:22.540 Awesome.

00:07:22.860 Well, another busy day in the news. We're leading off with a big story, Corey, big, big, big story about the Big Mac. Donald Trump's favorite meal could go up in price because everything about the Big Mac is dependent on potash to grow the wheat, to, you know, to make the buns, you know.

00:07:44.740 So if there's a tariff on potash, which they haven't announced yet, then that's going to result in the bigger price of a Big Mac, which I'm sure Donald can afford it, but others may go away.

00:07:59.180 Lots of stuff from Trudeau today as he continues his farewell jaunt through European capitals.

00:08:06.080 He talked about reaffirming his commitment to NORAD and NATO, but didn't explain how we were going to get to the 2% figure.

00:08:16.140 He said that Canada will never, ever become 51st state, so Trump should stop talking about it.

00:08:22.140 And he's talking about Arctic sovereignty and all that sort of stuff.

00:08:26.360 The new fentanyl czar made an appearance at an Ontario border today and outlined how he wants to crack down on the fentanyl between the two countries.

00:08:38.720 And your average MP is celebrating today because they just got a $15,000 raise, almost $16,000.

00:08:45.200 It's not bad for the number of days they worked out.

00:08:47.900 They haven't done a bloody thing since last year.

00:08:50.000 No, they should be paying us money back.

00:08:52.360 And a study out showing Calgary is going to be one of the two hardest hit cities if tariffs do come in, the other one being St. John's with the refinery out there.

00:09:06.860 So, yeah, if they do come in, it's going to certainly hit our city hard.

00:09:12.400 It's just hard to figure out what to deal with, though.

00:09:14.820 I mean, kind of like I said at the start of that monologue, too, with Trump, you don't know when he means it or when he doesn't.

00:09:18.920 I mean, he took us right to the 11th hour with the tariffs before, then he backed off.

00:09:23.060 Now he's in post-new ones.

00:09:23.940 Now he's saying the whole thing's coming in a few weeks, but maybe it won't.

00:09:26.840 It's that state of constant frenzy that's just so difficult to deal with, isn't it?

00:09:32.760 And all the premiers are down there now.

00:09:34.400 They're apparently going into the White House later on today, not to meet Trump.

00:09:39.500 They're meeting some assistant deputy to the associate chief of staff or something like that.

00:09:45.540 So we'll see what comes of that.

00:09:47.960 Well, it gives us no shortage of things to cover.

00:09:50.760 Well, no, the news business is a little crazy these days, and I love it.

00:09:54.600 All right.

00:09:55.080 Well, I'll let you go back into that newsroom.

00:09:57.020 We'll watch you in the background.

00:09:58.500 I think from the right angle, I'll see you sitting there.

00:10:00.920 So, again, just watch if you're scratching anything, you know, untoward or something.

00:10:05.340 I will definitely do my best.

00:10:06.760 I don't want to be like Trump's, or not Trump's, Elon Musk's kid, picking his nose, standing.

00:10:12.600 Harvesting a nosegobble in the Oval Office.

00:10:14.300 Yeah, I already tried Trump and eating it as Trump kind of looked on in utter disdain.

00:10:19.400 Yeah.

00:10:21.880 It's a world.

00:10:23.000 I don't know.

00:10:23.700 It's a world.

00:10:24.360 One of us will get caught at some point on the thing.

00:10:26.860 And it will just make for fun showing at the Christmas party.

00:10:31.160 Yeah, well, and yeah, I'll be watching too because I'll make a lot of it.

00:10:34.580 And I'm sure our commenters there see Paradoxy and Wildrose and some of the others,

00:10:37.880 they'll certainly let me know fast enough if somebody's done something in that background.

00:10:41.260 Oh, absolutely.

00:10:41.880 I feel kind of bad for Jen in a way.

00:10:44.300 Oh, well, she's fine. She gets a profile, her work record.

00:10:48.160 She does.

00:10:48.860 Right on. All right. Thanks, Dave.

00:10:49.960 You bet, Corey.

00:10:50.820 All right. So guys, the reason we've got Jen working away in the background and all those

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00:11:32.860 So, yeah, lots on the go and lots of news, and it's going to be a busy time.

00:11:36.680 We're going to be expanding our content a little, probably into March, actually, again, thanks to sponsorship and great stuff on your part.

00:11:43.240 There's going to be a lot to cover.

00:11:44.300 I mean, what a year we're in.

00:11:46.840 I mean, I've never seen anything like this.

00:11:49.920 We've got, of course, the return of President Trump.

00:11:52.080 Yeah, nobody missed that.

00:11:52.860 But he's hit the ground running more, I don't know how to put it, you know, haywire, inconsistent, just being Trump, you know, a bull in a China shop.

00:12:02.520 And in this last month, he's done more through those executive orders than your average president does in an entire term.

00:12:08.500 And we've still got three and nine tenths of his term left ahead of him.

00:12:14.300 Who knows what's going to happen? And Canada's reactions. And it's tough. It is tough. I like

00:12:19.660 seeing the status quo stirred up. I like seeing somebody come in and shake things up a bit. But

00:12:25.740 at the same time, is there a plan, though? You still got to have an end in mind. I mean,

00:12:29.840 is he just doing it for the sake of doing it? Tariffs are terrible policy. I've seen a lot

00:12:34.540 of discussion on that back and forth. And they're not good, guys. They're clumsy tools

00:12:39.020 for trying to make economic change. They tend to hurt yourself more than others. And most

00:12:45.100 economists typically don't think highly of tariffs as a way to help your own economy.

00:12:52.020 But they can certainly be used as a tool to, I guess, knock other nations into submission. And 0.95

00:12:59.260 that seems to be more the intent on what Donald Trump's doing right now. But how well is it going

00:13:03.560 to serve him? You know, aluminum tariffs, steel tariffs. Okay, great. But who pays that? Well,

00:13:07.960 it's going to be the American consumers because the price just comes on to them and it might slow

00:13:13.520 sales within Canada. So yes, that hurts Canadian producers. So again, where's the winner? Who's

00:13:19.040 the winner in all of this? It's just difficult to watch. So you can be somewhat supportive and

00:13:25.840 not supportive at the same time. Canada doesn't know how to deal with them. At the same time,

00:13:29.740 we're stuck in this period of stasis when we've got an outgoing prime minister.

00:13:34.460 it looks like a coronation for Carney but who knows a parliament that's prorogued then we might

00:13:40.820 go into a general election I don't know the rumors are starting to come uh hot and heavy

00:13:44.860 that Jagmeet Singh's probably going to be cutting a deal to extend the new leader of the liberals

00:13:48.900 some time might be all the way into fall if we don't have you know and I mean you certainly have

00:13:56.000 my preferences but if we don't have a prime minister with a solid mandate in this time right

00:14:01.500 Now, somebody who's going to be there for some years, it's going to be hard to make lasting deals with President Trump or anybody else, for that matter.

00:14:08.580 We've really got to get our affairs in order.

00:14:10.780 There's never a good time to have a parliament in such flux and chaos as we do right now.

00:14:15.100 But now is worse than a whole heck of a lot of the other times for it.

00:14:18.200 There's no getting around that.

00:14:19.960 All right. Well, speaking on some of those issues, and he's been fantastic and prolific online.

00:14:24.440 I've seen them all over my television screen lately as well, is Dr. Sylvain Charlebois.

00:14:29.280 He's also known as the food professor.

00:14:31.060 He's been on before, and boy, he likes to cut through the BS.

00:14:34.360 So I really appreciate you joining us today to talk for a little while, Sylvie.

00:14:40.460 Yeah, absolutely, Corey.

00:14:41.480 Thank you for inviting me again.

00:14:43.240 I know we've been trying to get a date together to speak about all of these issues, but now here we are together, finally.

00:14:52.720 Yes, I've got you.

00:14:54.220 You know, I do want to, because it seems supply management's kind of hitting things, and it's always been kind of a pet issue for both of us.

00:14:59.340 But I want to talk about that a little later.

00:15:00.500 The first reason I wanted to bring you on, though, you know, it's kind of fallen by the wayside, but we can't forget we have a carbon tax and it does impact consumer prices.

00:15:10.800 And what I want to talk about is some of the inconsistency among academia.

00:15:15.000 And you've been at least open in questioning some of the other interpretations of it.

00:15:20.940 Has the carbon tax impacted food prices or not?

00:15:25.940 We don't know.

00:15:27.740 I mean, we can't really correlate the policy with retail prices because, as you know, Corey, a lot of things can impact retail prices.

00:15:36.760 And this is the one thing that many economists, and a lot of them in Alberta where you are, they don't seem to understand how distribution actually works.

00:15:44.620 Distribution economics are complicated.

00:15:47.500 And a policy like the carbon tax will compound throughout the supply chain and will eventually impact consumers, whether there is a consumer carbon tax or not, by the way.

00:16:00.580 And this is the one thing that we're hearing more from liberal candidates these days.

00:16:04.400 We're going to be eliminating the consumer carbon tax, but not for companies.

00:16:11.320 Well, guess who is going to pay for that tax?

00:16:14.100 Eventually, it's going to be the consumer.

00:16:16.400 Now, if you're trying to assess how food affordability is impacting, is being impacted by the carbon tax, that's very difficult to do.

00:16:25.560 But you can assess how the carbon tax is affecting the sector's competitiveness.

00:16:33.040 And that's really, to me, even more important because over time, if you impact a sector's competitiveness, you will make it a food security issue.

00:16:41.480 And that's exactly what's going on right now.

00:16:43.340 Now, wholesale prices are actually pretty stable in the U.S., food wholesale prices.

00:16:49.780 But in Canada, since 2019, since implementing the carbon tax, it's gone up 40% more than in the U.S.

00:16:56.860 So if you're a Loblaw or a Sobeys or a Costco or a Walmart Canada, well, if you have a choice between going to the U.S. where things are cheaper, more affordable versus Canada where things are more expensive,

00:17:09.060 And especially right now, when people are looking for Canada, the grocery store, well, it's more tempting to actually go south.

00:17:16.400 And that's been my number one concerns for a long time.

00:17:19.220 And I think that we're actually hurting our economy from farm gate to store.

00:17:25.980 Yeah, well, and we need those discussions.

00:17:28.920 So, I mean, I don't want to get too leading on things and we hope to get things productive.

00:17:32.760 But I mean, some of the issue we've got, too, is sometimes we've got economists and others who are kind of beholden due to getting funding through, you know, government sources.

00:17:40.540 And it may or may not impact some of their conclusions sometimes for the same reason that I talk about how we're proud not to take government funding as a media outlet.

00:17:49.980 Likewise, you know, we prefer academia not to be beholden to the to the government, whether it's a conservative or liberal or whatever government.

00:17:56.360 You know, we want to make sure they just stick to the facts.

00:17:59.600 Absolutely.

00:18:00.000 Absolutely. I have to outline one case with Trevor Toome out of the University of Calgary. He's been publishing papers with Jennifer Winter, his wife, by the way.

00:18:12.820 And Jennifer Winter, for people who may not know, she's a special advisor to Minister Stephen Gilbo in Ottawa, the Minister of Environment.

00:18:23.520 And some of the papers that they were actually publishing were funded by ECCC on top of it all.

00:18:30.520 And I think it's important, regardless of what the papers are telling us, I think it's important for people to understand here the potential conflict of interest or perceived conflict of interest.

00:18:43.820 It's super important to understand that everything is intertwined.

00:18:47.820 And you've got other scholars also being funded by ECCC.

00:18:50.520 triple c and and they often don't disclose and they're not clear in terms of what they're doing

00:18:55.960 they're all working together to support one narrative science is not about supporting

00:19:00.840 one narrative it's about understanding and over the last eight nine years we've seen

00:19:06.280 ottawa just supporting one narrative with millions and millions of dollars but the worst case to me

00:19:13.000 has been the one of trevor tooman and jennifer winter yeah and it's it's frustrating to watch

00:19:19.400 i mean is the public you know on the ground we're relying on people like you and mr toome and others

00:19:24.200 to hopefully you know filter this information to us so we can understand these bigger issues

00:19:28.040 by the way trevor toome is a is a good economist it's just every time he goes into food

00:19:35.400 is his work is questionable i i would if i were trevor i would stick to what i'm good at and that's

00:19:41.000 certainly not food well and we'll stick to that with you i mean you are the food professor that

00:19:45.720 is your specialty and it's a unique almost niche and an important one we don't have enough uh

00:19:51.160 covering that i mean it's something we all have to purchase that impacts all of our lives

00:19:54.840 so kind of further along the same line when we're talking about the tariff war

00:19:59.080 uh i mean people talk about imposing tariffs on incoming american goods to try and and you know

00:20:04.920 retaliate i i understand the sentiment behind it but at the same time people have better understand

00:20:10.680 that is going to really impact your local price of food products i mean even if you're becoming

00:20:15.800 selective and trying to buy local oh absolutely so it's it's important for people to have choice

00:20:21.320 and affordable choice but it's also i think important to perhaps offer industry uh the carrot

00:20:27.160 approach i have always believed that carbon markets are an opportunity for the agriculture

00:20:32.920 sector to do better we are in canada we got land we got resources we can do better uh it's just

00:20:39.240 right now we have a regime in Ottawa treating carbon as a stick and only a stick. And I don't

00:20:47.120 think that farmers deserve that. I don't think that food manufacturers deserve that as well.

00:20:52.040 We've never been strategic. We've never actually had a conversation about that. And frankly,

00:20:56.720 because we know that some provinces, some regions do prefer certain models around the environment.

00:21:04.760 And, you know, there's a lot of talk about interprovincial barriers these days.

00:21:09.860 And certainly, to me, environmental stewardship is another one.

00:21:15.180 It's invisible, but I think all regions have a different approach to environmental stewardship.

00:21:20.440 Where you are, carbon capture is a big deal.

00:21:23.700 And I think there's a lot of opportunities for carbon capture.

00:21:27.320 But central Canada, they don't value carbon capture.

00:21:30.920 All they value is the stick.

00:21:33.080 And that's unfortunate.

00:21:34.760 Well, and I guess I'll segue into, we're talking about regional disparity and interprovincial trade.

00:21:41.000 And boy, you really poked the hornet's nest, but I'm sure you knew you wouldn't when you went and dared to question Canada's dairy supply management on a Quebec broadcast of all places.

00:21:53.460 And it's not just one show.

00:21:55.340 I mean, Tumor Napali is a show that he's watched a lot.

00:21:58.060 So if you want to get elected in Quebec, you've got to go on that show.

00:22:01.000 If you want to raise money to do anything, you got to go on that show.

00:22:05.300 So I've been on that show three times.

00:22:07.840 And, you know, the first time I was pretty nervous.

00:22:10.020 The second time around, I was a little more acquainted.

00:22:13.440 Last weekend, I was very comfortable.

00:22:15.660 But I had only one goal.

00:22:17.100 It was to raise the issue of supply management because I was in Quebec.

00:22:20.460 I was in the middle of supply management country.

00:22:24.060 And I wanted to be clear that if we want to create a free flooring market in Canada,

00:22:28.820 If we really believe it, if we want to do it, in the agri-food sector, there's no other way to do it other than looking at marketing boards provincially, because they have a lot of power.

00:22:41.280 They're the one allocating quotas. 0.82

00:22:43.780 A lot of people think it's all about the federal government.

00:22:47.060 No, it's actually provincial governments that actually allocate quotas, and that needs to be discussed, especially right now in light of what's happening with the U.S.

00:22:55.700 Well, as well, I mean, that system in general, along with actually, we've had some pretty heavy tariffs on our dairy products for quite some time or incoming dairy products to try and protect the Canadian market.

00:23:08.080 I appreciate your blasphemy taking it out there, but there's no better time maybe to discuss this.

00:23:14.200 I mean, if we're going to talk about, well, how can we be Team Canada?

00:23:16.600 How can we be more self-reliant?

00:23:18.920 how can we explore other markets, or how can we get out of trade issues, trade challenges,

00:23:25.080 the arrow keeps pointing towards supply management. I mean, are we finally ready as Canadians to just

00:23:30.040 start critically looking at it? Well, I mean, I'll give you one example. Let's say you're in Alberta

00:23:34.440 and you're operating a provincially licensed abattoir or slaughterhouse or manufacturing plant.

00:23:39.720 You cannot export in other provinces right now because there's no mutual recognition,

00:23:46.360 which is ridiculous but as soon as you raise the issue of mutual recognition in say beef or pork or

00:23:54.680 with other commodities people will say well what about dairy or what about eggs what about

00:24:00.520 poultry now poultry and eggs have actually done a pretty good job working together many boards do

00:24:07.240 work together like right now there's a shortage of eggs in bc well alberta is helping bc so there's

00:24:13.160 There's that.

00:24:13.960 But in dairy, Corey, it's been terrible.

00:24:18.000 It's been very divisive.

00:24:19.940 The DFO, the Dairy Farmers of Ontario, they don't talk to the UPA, which represents dairy farmers in Quebec.

00:24:26.020 And these silos are incredibly difficult to crack.

00:24:30.400 And I think it's time to have that done.

00:24:32.180 The easy thing to do is to create a federal system to reallocate quotas.

00:24:41.640 There's an easy fig.

00:24:43.160 the only thing you can that's the only thing you can do but the problem once you do that guess

00:24:48.840 what's going to happen to the value of quarters in quebec well they're gonna drop like significantly

00:24:56.040 and that's their number one asset so that's why quebec farmers have no appetite to actually talk

00:25:01.160 about this they're a very effective lobby i i mean they're very active online they're active

00:25:06.520 directly with politicians. They're active all around. I mean, as you've expressed online, the-

00:25:12.760 If you allow Albertans to buy quotas from Quebec tomorrow, I bet you there'll be tons of them doing 0.94

00:25:19.240 that. And Quebec will be out of quota because there's no wealth there. Farms are very, very

00:25:24.600 small. They're not competitive, but we're all paying for that. And with trades, we're paying

00:25:30.200 for that as well. It makes us look really bad and bad players as well internationally.

00:25:36.340 And you got a heck of a blast of bad feedback, unfortunately, for daring to chip away.

00:25:41.840 But I'll tell you what, I've been doing this for 25 years, Corey.

00:25:45.740 So, yes, I did get some insults, which is really typical.

00:25:49.660 But I'm getting a lot of supportive emails.

00:25:52.480 Like, I can't believe it.

00:25:55.780 Something's happening, Corey.

00:25:57.560 Something is going on.

00:25:58.760 I think people are starting to recognize that we need perhaps supply management and the dairy system that we have in Canada is not working for us.

00:26:08.040 I think the message is starting to resonate.

00:26:10.340 Well, the conversation is starting, and I really appreciate you bringing it to the fore.

00:26:13.880 As I said, it's not the easy route to take.

00:26:16.020 I mean, you want to avoid the headaches, the flack, and everything else.

00:26:18.480 You just stick to other subjects, but you're not giving up on it, and I really appreciate that.

00:26:23.620 I know you've got a hard deadline today, so before I let you go, where can people find your work?

00:26:28.300 and where you've been speaking up and such?

00:26:30.940 Yeah, absolutely.

00:26:31.720 So we're on X.

00:26:34.480 You can just look up the Food Professor, Food Professor.

00:26:38.080 I'm on LinkedIn, of course,

00:26:39.740 and we have a podcast called the Food Professor Podcast.

00:26:42.520 It's available on Simplecast, Apple, Shopify,

00:26:50.520 and all the platforms you're familiar with.

00:26:54.820 And so you can find out all sorts of things we're working on.

00:26:58.300 Well, that's excellent, doctor. Thank you again for coming on the show again and keep up the good fight. Watching with interest. As I said earlier, we've got some crazy times happening, but sometimes some good outcomes can actually come out of the insanity if we could just think rationally through it.

00:27:13.040 Exactly. Thanks for inviting me, Corey.

00:27:14.940 thank you so yeah guys check them out as you can see yeah the food professor on x and uh as well

00:27:23.320 yes the podcast you know it's the food professor's podcast you can get more extended discussion on

00:27:28.720 these things these issues are big and you know things i don't like that's for sure and and it

00:27:32.780 i hate one of the things i don't like is puns actually but i can't help it when it comes to

00:27:37.240 supply management it is a sacred cow and i don't you know it's the unintentional pun i can't stand

00:27:42.460 sacred cows. Why? Why can we not even discuss it? Dr. Charlebaugh was pretty polite about it, but

00:27:48.300 he got just blasted for going into that issue. And they're very protective. And I mean, I'm on

00:27:53.520 X. Those who know me on there, Corey B. Morgan, by the way, if you really want to get into the

00:27:57.020 discussions of the fights, that's my favorite playground. But you can tell they're searching

00:28:01.860 the terms. They're watching for it. And when supply management comes up, the defenders of it

00:28:07.080 come out of the woodwork and they're vicious. They are, yes, speaking of protectionist and

00:28:11.820 protective. Why? And it's not a mistake. It's organized. I mean, these are dairy cartels and

00:28:17.840 it's not an exaggeration. I know they're not ruthless, murderous cartels like we saw in

00:28:22.080 Colombia with cocaine, but it's the same thing. It's a small group that fixes and controls the

00:28:27.380 prices and people don't understand and realize which supply management is often enough because

00:28:33.840 again, people are afraid to discuss it. It doesn't come up enough. This is the system in Canada,

00:28:38.300 it, guys. Governments provincially issue quotas. If you're a dairy farmer, it is illegal for you

00:28:46.740 to produce and sell a dairy product without the government issued quota for it. If you sell more

00:28:53.100 than that, you will be charged. That's how that works. So they strangle the amount of supply

00:28:59.020 so that they can artificially keep the prices higher. It's the opposite of competition. And I

00:29:04.900 get so frustrated when I get conservatives, people who call themselves conservatives saying

00:29:09.840 that it's a good system. It's not. It's Soviet style. It's as anti-capitalist, anti-free market 0.84

00:29:16.180 as you could possibly get. It really is. And I get frustrated with dairy farmers get all upset

00:29:23.860 and everything. Oh, we do a great job. If you're doing that great a job, and I'm sure some of them

00:29:27.740 are, then you shouldn't need to illegalize the competition. And that's what they do. 0.82

00:29:32.300 And one of the things that came up a lot, if you might remember a few years ago, boy, they suppressed that fast and nobody can get a quote from him or talk to him anymore. He got shoved off to the sideline, which is almost scary. There was a dairy farmer who showed a video of thousands and thousands of gallons of milk being dumped in the drain. And it really gave the visual to people of just what's going on with supply management. And of course, the supply management loons went nuts, but it was true.

00:29:58.220 because you see again he had produced he'd done a really good job the cattle were fed well uh you

00:30:03.440 know the the milk was flowing but the problem was it was illegal for him to sell any more than what

00:30:07.200 his quota was so he had to dump it down the drain there was nothing else he could do they can't make

00:30:11.380 cheese with it and put it you know sell it somewhere else you can't give it to a food bank

00:30:15.400 you can't sell it at a roadside milk stand you have to dump it the ditch some places might feed

00:30:20.520 it to pigs and i you know my wife grew up in a dairy farm her father had a very small one you

00:30:25.800 know, back in those days, the farms were a lot smaller. He had a quota for cream, but not for

00:30:30.920 milk. And so yeah, he would skim the cream, sell that, it would supplement the family farm, and

00:30:35.780 then you could feed the family some of the milk, and otherwise you had to dump it. You had to dump

00:30:40.780 it. What a stupid, ridiculous system, and we're still defending it. And this system costs us in a 1.00

00:30:47.320 lot more ways, because others are saying it's protecting the family farm. That's baloney. The

00:30:50.820 stats are very clear right there. In 1991 we had some over 60,000 dairy farms in Canada. Now we've

00:30:57.640 got 9,000 because these quotas have become a commodity in and of themselves. Only very wealthy

00:31:05.660 farmers, large operations can afford to buy up these quotas. So the little guys get crushed,

00:31:11.380 they get wiped out. You can't open a little cottage industry dairy. You can't open a 50

00:31:16.640 cow dairy and maybe just make your own cheese or do a few small side things is you'd have to get

00:31:21.160 those quotas and it's too high priced so don't feed me that baloney that this system supports

00:31:26.660 the small family farm it's totally the opposite it's killing the family farm and as sylvain said

00:31:32.460 let's start just start even with ripping down then the provincial barriers and just let this

00:31:38.560 get spread across the whole country because isn't it interesting with quebec and i can't remember

00:31:43.180 what it is. They got something like 30%. I, you know, I might be corrected by one of the commenters

00:31:46.860 about 30 or 40% of Canada's dairy industry is there, even though they only make up about 18%

00:31:53.560 of our population. So it makes it a hot button issue, of course, because, uh, uh, you know,

00:31:59.140 nobody, no federal politician ever wants to upset Quebec. I mean, that that's speaking of sacred

00:32:03.800 cows within Canada, right? They won't touch it. I've had Polly on this show before, and I asked 0.99

00:32:08.700 him about it before. I appreciate his honesty. He said, we won't touch it, but I still would

00:32:13.380 rather he was honest and saying it's time to take it on. And is there not a better time than right

00:32:16.820 now? So Trump is well aware of that dairy supply management system. I mean, as I said earlier,

00:32:24.560 we've got tariffs. Sylvain pointed that out. You really should follow them on X. On some of our

00:32:28.900 stuff like American butter coming up to Canada, and it's something like a 325% tariff we put on

00:32:33.960 it to protect our local dairy industries. It's absurd. Look at all of that great growing,

00:32:40.660 grazing, agricultural land all across the prairies. Why isn't it loaded with dairy

00:32:46.320 productions? Well, because we can't get the quotas. They're all in Quebec. It's got to stop.

00:32:53.960 It's got to stop. So, so, so things chipping at that. Again, if we want to be team Canada,

00:32:58.340 team canada needs to tell quebec to go to hell that's the the blunt truth about it on every

00:33:07.000 level because they aren't team canada they're team quebec and you know what they've always been 0.82

00:33:10.900 they're unapologetic about it but that's enough as we talked about with people realize oh my lord

00:33:16.240 we're so vulnerable as canadians now that we got president trump jumping all over us with tariffs

00:33:20.000 and pushing us around and making demands yes how would we become more independent from that 0.82

00:33:25.960 Well, and some of them realize, well, if we got oil and gas products to the coast, those things that that idiot Trudeau has been fighting for 10 years, that moron, we would be able to say, well, fine, we're going to take our oil and gas, we're going to sell it to Europe, we're going to sell it to Asia, we're going to sell it to India, India's got the biggest oil refinery on earth, we could be shipping it there. 0.93

00:33:43.080 we get what do we get Trudeau banned tankers he shut down the northern gateway pipeline he 0.96

00:33:48.600 regulated energy east to death but now they're finally realizing some of them saying we better

00:33:55.360 get these pipes to the coast yes but guess who popped up right away and said no no no no that's

00:34:01.180 not gonna happen Quebec they said they're not gonna allow it so now you don't hear it from

00:34:05.560 the federal politicians anymore okay so now we're just gonna keep and you know what 97 percent of

00:34:11.740 or oil and gas exports, the stuff that actually leaves the country, goes to the USA.

00:34:15.760 And we get discounted on it because of that. 0.80

00:34:18.520 When you only have one customer, you're screwed.

00:34:23.400 It's a huge, huge issue. 0.77

00:34:26.200 But the big sticking point is always Quebec.

00:34:30.100 Are we a country or not?

00:34:31.980 Look, I've always been an advocate for independence.

00:34:34.940 That's nothing new out of me.

00:34:37.400 So if we're not, fine, let's move on with it.

00:34:39.580 let's break into separate regions, let's make our own trade deals, let's get on with it, cut our own

00:34:43.400 deals to get our products to the coast. Another area, you know, realizing our ports. Thanks again,

00:34:53.480 Trudeau. Vancouver has, it's a busy, busy port, but it's also the second slowest, most efficient,

00:34:59.720 inefficient port on earth for shipping. A lot of Canadian products actually end up going to Seattle,

00:35:04.620 and then they'll bring it up to Canada because Vancouver is so bad. Why is Vancouver so bad?

00:35:08.280 Well, because it's been year after year after year of labor strife.

00:35:12.280 The unions are constantly going on strike and holding up the ports. 0.98

00:35:15.600 And they're corrupt as hell out there, guys.

00:35:17.940 So one of the things they've been fighting against is automation. 0.81

00:35:21.180 No, we've got to keep those bodies working. 0.88

00:35:22.740 So, no, we will make it illegal to upgrade. 0.97

00:35:24.720 I mean, why don't we just get horses and carriages, you clowns? 0.92

00:35:26.800 I mean, the teamsters would be happy enough to see that, wouldn't they? 0.94

00:35:29.520 We've got to take some things on here.

00:35:31.480 If you want to increase our ability to export or import other goods,

00:35:35.860 we've got to take on Quebec and we've got to take on those unions. Why are the unions suddenly so

00:35:40.780 strong? I mean, they've always been strong, but why more so? Because Prime Minister Dingbat

00:35:45.460 cut a deal with Jagmeet Singh where any federally regulated industry, it is now illegal for them to

00:35:52.880 have replacement workers if there's a strike. Well, that just gave all of the power to the unions,

00:35:58.660 all of it. So because of ports, teamsters, all of that, that's all federally regulated. So when

00:36:04.600 those clowns go on strike and they're constantly going on strike. Port authorities are screwed. 0.99

00:36:08.820 They can't, they are immediately shut down. You can't even get somebody to unload a container 0.95

00:36:13.740 until this thing is over. That's ridiculous. It's putting all the power on one side. So again, 0.95

00:36:20.540 if we want to become less reliant on the United States, less dependent, less pushed around,

00:36:26.020 the other big port, guess where it's at? Montreal. But until you get those unions in line,

00:36:31.220 we're not going to up that so we're talking a great game team canada but we're playing

00:36:38.520 crap we're playing terribly so yes all the premiers are down in washington but what can

00:36:42.720 they offer when president trump says fine but i want to see free access for dairy they said no 0.99

00:36:46.680 we can't do that okay well here come your tariffs what are we going to do what are we going to do

00:36:52.220 about it nothing we lost a big deal with the uk over the supply management uh the other year as

00:36:56.840 well over Canadian cheese going out. Yeah, really stupid Canadian cheese. 1.00

00:37:04.060 So we were blocking UK cheese, I think was the deal or something. Either way, an entire trade 1.00

00:37:08.840 deal with the United Kingdom fell apart over cheese because our politicians are such pussies. 0.99

00:37:14.340 They will not take on Quebec when it comes to supply management. So either get crater, give up, 0.99

00:37:20.900 split this country up, or have that federal government assert itself. So people call me

00:37:25.760 I said, well, what? You suddenly want centralized power? No, no, I don't. But I don't like this

00:37:30.580 double standard, this hybrid, because it's got to be one way or the other. Are we a federation?

00:37:34.160 Because there's only so many benefits you get from being a large federation.

00:37:38.700 One of those is that ability to trade within your federation, that ability to not have another

00:37:45.420 province say, we won't allow your product to come across our turf, that ability to say your labor

00:37:51.600 can come here and work or this person can work there do that and we don't have that and the

00:37:56.900 sticking point is almost always Quebec but I mean it's all sorts of other things don't forget it

00:38:01.220 was only a few years ago a guy I think it was New Brunswick actually got arrested why because he

00:38:06.560 bought beer in Quebec and tried to drive into New Brunswick with it not across an international

00:38:10.480 border a provincial border and he got convicted on it then we're not a federation we are not a

00:38:15.980 proper federation if that happens we might as well put up borders hey and I'm not fully averse to

00:38:19.960 that. So when you wonder why some people, they might be upset with that 51st state talk and all

00:38:26.380 that and everything going on, but then once they start thinking about it, you know, what are we

00:38:30.720 gaining in not joining the United States, right? So if you guys want to build one central country

00:38:38.080 that's feeling united, you got to take on those Frenchmen. You got to find some courage and you 1.00

00:38:42.960 got to lay down the law because our constitution actually makes it very clear. They're not supposed 0.96

00:38:46.420 to be able to hinder these things. But you've got to have the knackers as a government to take that

00:38:51.360 on. Now, we don't even have a government as it is. Even if Trudeau suddenly found courage,

00:38:55.920 he won't have enough time in office to take care of it. And I'm hoping and thinking that Carney,

00:39:01.940 and it's going to be a coronation for him when he gets in, that he's not in for very long. I mean,

00:39:06.460 we're still in flux. You know, what's killing us right now is instability. That's one of the

00:39:11.040 frustrations out of Trump. You just don't know where he's coming from. I mean, businesses

00:39:13.940 hate taxes. Investors hate taxes. But the thing they hate the most is unpredictability,

00:39:19.980 instability. And we don't know. We don't know if we're going to have a tariff on in a couple

00:39:22.880 weeks or not have a tariff on or which products or which won't. But the other thing we don't have

00:39:26.920 is stability in Ottawa. We don't know who's going to be the bloody prime minister month to month

00:39:30.460 right now. And as I said earlier, it looks to me and the rumors, Singh's going to cut a deal.

00:39:37.200 Carney's going to drag this out all the way until fall, if not longer. Yeah. Hey, you know,

00:39:43.620 another scary thought constitutionally canada we could drag it out till fall of 2026 before we get

00:39:49.120 the chance to vote that's how screwed up our system is and what's going on guess what the

00:39:56.780 liberals are surging in the polls at first it looked like it was just crazy frank graves who's

00:40:00.460 always been inconsistent with his ecos company and very biased but no we're starting to see a number

00:40:04.880 of polls now pointing out saying no you know what canadians actually are kind of warming up to the

00:40:09.520 Liberals again. Yeah, all of this, all of this abuse, all of this mess, all these carbon taxes,

00:40:14.340 house prices through the roof, mass immigration screwing up everything. The Liberals admitting 1.00

00:40:19.280 pretty much that everything we've done in the last 10 years has been a screw up. But please

00:40:23.560 forgive us. We won't do it again this time in Ontario and Quebec. Sure, we'll give you another

00:40:28.280 shot. You change the face at the front of you. I don't know if that, you know, we've got crazy

00:40:34.460 times. I think some of that is just, again, due to people feeling they got to rally around their

00:40:39.780 local leadership in a time when we do have an outside threat. And I get people upset with me

00:40:45.520 when I'm critical of Trump, but I am critical of Trump too. As I said, the guy's a bull in a China

00:40:49.040 shop and he's using clumsy, stupid economic policies to get what he wants, which in the long 1.00

00:40:53.940 run, I don't think is a bright way to do it. And we should push back. We should be upset. 0.99

00:40:58.380 We have been assaulted by Trump. We have been demonized by Trump. Trump has been lying. That's

00:41:03.140 nothing new out of Trump. We know that too. People say, oh, it's just part of his negotiation. No,

00:41:06.600 he's lying. And I'm sick of people brushing that aside and saying lying should be an acceptable

00:41:10.680 tactic in negotiations with things. And which lie are we talking about? When he keeps going on about

00:41:15.660 how we're subsidizing Canada 200 billion a year. Guys, that's a trade deficit. That's not a subsidy

00:41:21.680 and it needs to be called out all the time. You know, here's one, Sven. Oh, the typical Trump,

00:41:29.660 so stupid, eh? No, not stupid, but clumsy. Yes. Unnuanced. Yes. Self-serving. Yes. And he is the 1.00

00:41:38.320 man we're going to have to deal with for the next, uh, for the next four years. And this is a fun

00:41:44.920 one. See, this is where the fun with the commenters come. So Sven now comes, says the guy at the desk

00:41:48.640 playing like he's some freedom fighter. Wall. Oh, good one, man. Yeah. The guy with his picture on

00:41:54.680 here with his name out there Sven anonymous Twitter person I'm doing more for freedom than

00:41:59.880 you ever bloody have but that's fine we can have the discussions oh he's unfollowing me

00:42:04.300 he's unfollowing me so there Sven has laid down the hammer and has unfollowed me I fear uh I've

00:42:11.580 only got 68,000 others so this is what the discussion comes to though this is what social

00:42:16.920 media does get to the lowest common denominator right you know it gets to the foolishness to the

00:42:22.360 and hey, I play on X rough all the time. That's the way it goes. But when we're talking about

00:42:27.800 world leaders now, then we got to watch what we're doing. So yes, whatever our leaders,

00:42:34.600 whether they're provincially or federally are doing, you don't want to roll over to Trump

00:42:39.820 because yes, again, he's trying to push us into a corner. But at the same time, you've got to get

00:42:44.020 realistic. There's some of the stupid discussion I've seen online as well, right? I mean, people 1.00

00:42:48.460 saying, we will, you know, we'll get armed and we'll take on the, you know, okay. I mean, even

00:42:55.280 a very respected senior columnist in Calgary recently wrote that Canada's got to beef up

00:43:02.260 its army so we could withstand a possible invasion for the United States. Really? I mean, there's

00:43:08.040 levels and levels of stupid going on here, right? An overreaction and foolishness. For one, there's 1.00

00:43:13.020 not going to be a military invasion into Canada. Trump is using economic tools to get what he wants.

00:43:17.900 There's no appetite to come and invade Canada.

00:43:20.720 It's not going to happen.

00:43:21.640 He doesn't need to.

00:43:22.700 I don't believe he wants to,

00:43:23.840 though it is hard to figure out what exactly he ever wants.

00:43:26.520 But it's not going to happen.

00:43:27.720 And the other aspect is get realistic.

00:43:30.820 Get realistic, guys.

00:43:32.580 We might have some great people within our forces,

00:43:34.680 but our forces are piddly.

00:43:37.260 They're next to nothing.

00:43:38.000 They're dysfunctional.

00:43:39.000 They're outdated.

00:43:39.760 And even if it was a good, well-tuned armed forces we had here,

00:43:44.680 it would just be so microscopically small we would be walked over within days i listen to

00:43:51.460 warren kinsella a commentator online a former liberal advisor and there's some of the funniness

00:43:56.800 out of it because he was putting out the poll online would you be willing to take up arms and

00:44:00.200 fight to the death to defend canada nice jingoism warren you were also one of the same buttholes

00:44:06.180 who was pushing for gun control and taking away every rifle from canadians who wanted them

00:44:10.900 How would people take up arms if they'd have listened to you and given up their firearms years ago? It wouldn't have happened, right? You guys, sorry, you already blew your chance there. The very people that you berated as rednecks and, you know, the whole works and crazed firearm owners.

00:44:31.040 Now you're saying that Canada can suddenly have some sort of militia, revolutionary type of guard going on here.

00:44:37.180 Not going to happen, Warren.

00:44:39.200 A little consistency.

00:44:41.420 But, well, what are we going to do?

00:44:45.340 They are interesting times.

00:44:47.060 So let's see.

00:44:48.100 What else have we got going on?

00:44:49.560 At least one thing it'll give Trump.

00:44:51.380 You know, so I see some people howling, oh, I was critical of the orange man.

00:44:54.620 I get over it.

00:44:55.100 I'm going to continue to be critical of the orange man.

00:44:57.140 But I'll give him credit.

00:44:57.800 One thing, he's actually spoken on one of the blasphemies, which is paper straws. 0.99

00:45:01.940 He has pointed out how stupid they are, how pointless they are, and he's getting back to plastic. 0.99

00:45:07.540 You know what? Hey, power to you. Good. I don't want to see any more paper straws as well. 1.00

00:45:13.740 So Trump's had one solid policy victory. We'll see what happens. We're in for an interesting couple of years yet.

00:45:18.380 All right. Thanks for tuning in. That's the time I got today, guys.

00:45:21.340 The pipeline is going to be on tonight. We'll be up on a panel discussing and breaking down a few more things.

00:45:25.380 plus Jen's going to have another episode on 1.00

00:45:27.140 Hannaford while Nigel takes a well-deserved

00:45:29.320 break and I'll be back next week

00:45:31.360 with more discussions, more guests

00:45:33.380 and more issues. So thank you for tuning in

00:45:35.400 this week guys and we'll see you on the next one.

00:45:55.380 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - February 13, 2025

It’s time to MAGA Gaza

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