On this episode of the Cory Morgan Show, we have Professor Sylvain Charlebois join us to talk about supply management in the world of academia and the Middle East. We also talk about Trump's new plan for peace between Israel and the Palestinians, and why the Arab world has no interest in it.
00:03:26.520It's not like they make a secret of it, guys.
00:03:28.140They pour funds into terrorist groups attacking Israel and chanting from the river to the sea.
00:03:32.620There can't be any negotiation with them,
00:03:34.680especially when the only demand is the annihilation of every Jew in the Middle East.0.94
00:03:39.220Yet world organizations expect Israel to negotiate with them.
00:03:42.280With years of fundraising, digging, and planning, the Palestinian people set off their revolution in October 2023 by raiding a music festival and peaceful kibitzes.0.67
00:03:52.900They went on an orgy of torture, destruction, rape, and murder.
00:03:56.340As they slaughtered over 1,200 people, they took hundreds of hostages who they tortured, raped, and often killed, and have only released them on occasion, went back against the wall.
00:04:04.900They were given the world on the platter, with funding and access to one of the most beautiful coastlines on Earth.
00:04:09.600Rather than embracing it, they devolved into subhuman savagery and expanded their culture of mindless hate.0.98
00:04:15.820They break every peace deal and yet again have broken another agreement to release hostages.
00:04:21.100Palestinians have given up the right to the land bordering on Israel.
00:04:24.520It's time they migrated to the Arab nations who funded their way by proxy.1.00
00:04:28.480They want to live in a Jew-free world.1.00
00:04:30.780Egypt and Jordan can offer that to them.
00:04:32.880Their values of beating women and murdering gay people will be better accepted in those places anyways.1.00
00:04:37.620There's never been a country of Palestine, so let's quit pretending the world owes them one.1.00
00:04:41.940Palestinians will fit in as well in Egypt or Jordan as they will anywhere else, that's for sure.0.98
00:04:45.740It's rather telling how mortified, actually, Egyptians and Jordanians are at the prospect of an influx of Gazans within their midst.1.00
00:04:51.620They know they created a monster and they don't want to have to live with it.
00:04:54.800Gaza provides a perfect buffer for Israel, and having a third party like the USA in charge of it, it's a good mediator.0.99
00:05:02.760the Strip could begin to meet its potential. With rebuilding focused on housing, hospitals,
00:05:06.240schools, businesses, the region could prosper. Not to mention some nice casinos. That's only
00:05:10.680going to happen under a third-party oversight. We know the Palestinians will just try and turn1.00
00:05:14.040the zone into another terrorism launch pad if given a chance. Let a Trump Tower rise on the
00:05:19.120coast. Clean those beaches and build some resorts. Golf courses are prettier to look at than rocket
00:05:22.720batteries. The area is a little more than rubble right now anyways, and that's purely due to the
00:05:26.680intransigence of Gazans when it came to releasing the hostages. Israel wasn't going to stop until0.51
00:05:32.440every single citizen was accounted for, and they shouldn't. Displaced Palestinians, well, they would1.00
00:05:37.120be welcome to pursue working opportunities back in Gaza if they could prove they want to set aside
00:05:40.800their hate and actually try to live peacefully. Any evidence of terrorist activity or planning
00:05:44.360would be dealt with harshly. Quit pretending the Gazan people weren't supportive of the atrocities0.99
00:05:49.600on October 7th and the attacks launched on Israel since. Hamas couldn't hide hundreds of hostages
00:05:54.720for over a year without participation from the public. They couldn't have planned for and launched
00:05:58.800an assault on Israel like that without a complicit population. They made their bed.
00:06:03.140Some time wandering in the desert would do the Gazan people some good. Offer them a chance for1.00
00:06:06.940some introspection and perhaps inspire them to evolve upward into maybe 18th century values.
00:06:12.620They might even begin to consider women's rights one day. Hey, it served Moses and his bunch well1.00
00:06:16.560enough. Trump's offering the first feasible solution to the Palestinian issue we've seen0.76
00:06:20.760in generations. So yeah, on that one, let's hope he plans on following through with it.
00:06:24.540All right. Well, there's my nice, simple rant for the day. Let's check in on Dave Naylor and see what else is going on in the news out there. Hey, Dave, how's it going?
00:07:22.860Well, another busy day in the news. We're leading off with a big story, Corey, big, big, big story about the Big Mac. Donald Trump's favorite meal could go up in price because everything about the Big Mac is dependent on potash to grow the wheat, to, you know, to make the buns, you know.
00:07:44.740So if there's a tariff on potash, which they haven't announced yet, then that's going to result in the bigger price of a Big Mac, which I'm sure Donald can afford it, but others may go away.
00:07:59.180Lots of stuff from Trudeau today as he continues his farewell jaunt through European capitals.
00:08:06.080He talked about reaffirming his commitment to NORAD and NATO, but didn't explain how we were going to get to the 2% figure.
00:08:16.140He said that Canada will never, ever become 51st state, so Trump should stop talking about it.
00:08:22.140And he's talking about Arctic sovereignty and all that sort of stuff.
00:08:26.360The new fentanyl czar made an appearance at an Ontario border today and outlined how he wants to crack down on the fentanyl between the two countries.
00:08:38.720And your average MP is celebrating today because they just got a $15,000 raise, almost $16,000.
00:08:45.200It's not bad for the number of days they worked out.
00:08:47.900They haven't done a bloody thing since last year.
00:08:50.000No, they should be paying us money back.
00:08:52.360And a study out showing Calgary is going to be one of the two hardest hit cities if tariffs do come in, the other one being St. John's with the refinery out there.
00:09:06.860So, yeah, if they do come in, it's going to certainly hit our city hard.
00:09:12.400It's just hard to figure out what to deal with, though.
00:09:14.820I mean, kind of like I said at the start of that monologue, too, with Trump, you don't know when he means it or when he doesn't.
00:09:18.920I mean, he took us right to the 11th hour with the tariffs before, then he backed off.
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00:11:32.860So, yeah, lots on the go and lots of news, and it's going to be a busy time.
00:11:36.680We're going to be expanding our content a little, probably into March, actually, again, thanks to sponsorship and great stuff on your part.
00:11:52.860But he's hit the ground running more, I don't know how to put it, you know, haywire, inconsistent, just being Trump, you know, a bull in a China shop.
00:12:02.520And in this last month, he's done more through those executive orders than your average president does in an entire term.
00:12:08.500And we've still got three and nine tenths of his term left ahead of him.
00:12:14.300Who knows what's going to happen? And Canada's reactions. And it's tough. It is tough. I like
00:12:19.660seeing the status quo stirred up. I like seeing somebody come in and shake things up a bit. But
00:12:25.740at the same time, is there a plan, though? You still got to have an end in mind. I mean,
00:12:29.840is he just doing it for the sake of doing it? Tariffs are terrible policy. I've seen a lot
00:12:34.540of discussion on that back and forth. And they're not good, guys. They're clumsy tools
00:12:39.020for trying to make economic change. They tend to hurt yourself more than others. And most
00:12:45.100economists typically don't think highly of tariffs as a way to help your own economy.
00:12:52.020But they can certainly be used as a tool to, I guess, knock other nations into submission. And0.95
00:12:59.260that seems to be more the intent on what Donald Trump's doing right now. But how well is it going
00:13:03.560to serve him? You know, aluminum tariffs, steel tariffs. Okay, great. But who pays that? Well,
00:13:07.960it's going to be the American consumers because the price just comes on to them and it might slow
00:13:13.520sales within Canada. So yes, that hurts Canadian producers. So again, where's the winner? Who's
00:13:19.040the winner in all of this? It's just difficult to watch. So you can be somewhat supportive and
00:13:25.840not supportive at the same time. Canada doesn't know how to deal with them. At the same time,
00:13:29.740we're stuck in this period of stasis when we've got an outgoing prime minister.
00:13:34.460it looks like a coronation for Carney but who knows a parliament that's prorogued then we might
00:13:40.820go into a general election I don't know the rumors are starting to come uh hot and heavy
00:13:44.860that Jagmeet Singh's probably going to be cutting a deal to extend the new leader of the liberals
00:13:48.900some time might be all the way into fall if we don't have you know and I mean you certainly have
00:13:56.000my preferences but if we don't have a prime minister with a solid mandate in this time right
00:14:01.500Now, somebody who's going to be there for some years, it's going to be hard to make lasting deals with President Trump or anybody else, for that matter.
00:14:08.580We've really got to get our affairs in order.
00:14:10.780There's never a good time to have a parliament in such flux and chaos as we do right now.
00:14:15.100But now is worse than a whole heck of a lot of the other times for it.
00:14:54.220You know, I do want to, because it seems supply management's kind of hitting things, and it's always been kind of a pet issue for both of us.
00:14:59.340But I want to talk about that a little later.
00:15:00.500The first reason I wanted to bring you on, though, you know, it's kind of fallen by the wayside, but we can't forget we have a carbon tax and it does impact consumer prices.
00:15:10.800And what I want to talk about is some of the inconsistency among academia.
00:15:15.000And you've been at least open in questioning some of the other interpretations of it.
00:15:20.940Has the carbon tax impacted food prices or not?
00:15:27.740I mean, we can't really correlate the policy with retail prices because, as you know, Corey, a lot of things can impact retail prices.
00:15:36.760And this is the one thing that many economists, and a lot of them in Alberta where you are, they don't seem to understand how distribution actually works.
00:15:44.620Distribution economics are complicated.
00:15:47.500And a policy like the carbon tax will compound throughout the supply chain and will eventually impact consumers, whether there is a consumer carbon tax or not, by the way.
00:16:00.580And this is the one thing that we're hearing more from liberal candidates these days.
00:16:04.400We're going to be eliminating the consumer carbon tax, but not for companies.
00:16:11.320Well, guess who is going to pay for that tax?
00:16:14.100Eventually, it's going to be the consumer.
00:16:16.400Now, if you're trying to assess how food affordability is impacting, is being impacted by the carbon tax, that's very difficult to do.
00:16:25.560But you can assess how the carbon tax is affecting the sector's competitiveness.
00:16:33.040And that's really, to me, even more important because over time, if you impact a sector's competitiveness, you will make it a food security issue.
00:16:41.480And that's exactly what's going on right now.
00:16:43.340Now, wholesale prices are actually pretty stable in the U.S., food wholesale prices.
00:16:49.780But in Canada, since 2019, since implementing the carbon tax, it's gone up 40% more than in the U.S.
00:16:56.860So if you're a Loblaw or a Sobeys or a Costco or a Walmart Canada, well, if you have a choice between going to the U.S. where things are cheaper, more affordable versus Canada where things are more expensive,
00:17:09.060And especially right now, when people are looking for Canada, the grocery store, well, it's more tempting to actually go south.
00:17:16.400And that's been my number one concerns for a long time.
00:17:19.220And I think that we're actually hurting our economy from farm gate to store.
00:17:25.980Yeah, well, and we need those discussions.
00:17:28.920So, I mean, I don't want to get too leading on things and we hope to get things productive.
00:17:32.760But I mean, some of the issue we've got, too, is sometimes we've got economists and others who are kind of beholden due to getting funding through, you know, government sources.
00:17:40.540And it may or may not impact some of their conclusions sometimes for the same reason that I talk about how we're proud not to take government funding as a media outlet.
00:17:49.980Likewise, you know, we prefer academia not to be beholden to the to the government, whether it's a conservative or liberal or whatever government.
00:17:56.360You know, we want to make sure they just stick to the facts.
00:18:00.000Absolutely. I have to outline one case with Trevor Toome out of the University of Calgary. He's been publishing papers with Jennifer Winter, his wife, by the way.
00:18:12.820And Jennifer Winter, for people who may not know, she's a special advisor to Minister Stephen Gilbo in Ottawa, the Minister of Environment.
00:18:23.520And some of the papers that they were actually publishing were funded by ECCC on top of it all.
00:18:30.520And I think it's important, regardless of what the papers are telling us, I think it's important for people to understand here the potential conflict of interest or perceived conflict of interest.
00:18:43.820It's super important to understand that everything is intertwined.
00:18:47.820And you've got other scholars also being funded by ECCC.
00:18:50.520triple c and and they often don't disclose and they're not clear in terms of what they're doing
00:18:55.960they're all working together to support one narrative science is not about supporting
00:19:00.840one narrative it's about understanding and over the last eight nine years we've seen
00:19:06.280ottawa just supporting one narrative with millions and millions of dollars but the worst case to me
00:19:13.000has been the one of trevor tooman and jennifer winter yeah and it's it's frustrating to watch
00:19:19.400i mean is the public you know on the ground we're relying on people like you and mr toome and others
00:19:24.200to hopefully you know filter this information to us so we can understand these bigger issues
00:19:28.040by the way trevor toome is a is a good economist it's just every time he goes into food
00:19:35.400is his work is questionable i i would if i were trevor i would stick to what i'm good at and that's
00:19:41.000certainly not food well and we'll stick to that with you i mean you are the food professor that
00:19:45.720is your specialty and it's a unique almost niche and an important one we don't have enough uh
00:19:51.160covering that i mean it's something we all have to purchase that impacts all of our lives
00:19:54.840so kind of further along the same line when we're talking about the tariff war
00:19:59.080uh i mean people talk about imposing tariffs on incoming american goods to try and and you know
00:20:04.920retaliate i i understand the sentiment behind it but at the same time people have better understand
00:20:10.680that is going to really impact your local price of food products i mean even if you're becoming
00:20:15.800selective and trying to buy local oh absolutely so it's it's important for people to have choice
00:20:21.320and affordable choice but it's also i think important to perhaps offer industry uh the carrot
00:20:27.160approach i have always believed that carbon markets are an opportunity for the agriculture
00:20:32.920sector to do better we are in canada we got land we got resources we can do better uh it's just
00:20:39.240right now we have a regime in Ottawa treating carbon as a stick and only a stick. And I don't
00:20:47.120think that farmers deserve that. I don't think that food manufacturers deserve that as well.
00:20:52.040We've never been strategic. We've never actually had a conversation about that. And frankly,
00:20:56.720because we know that some provinces, some regions do prefer certain models around the environment.
00:21:04.760And, you know, there's a lot of talk about interprovincial barriers these days.
00:21:09.860And certainly, to me, environmental stewardship is another one.
00:21:15.180It's invisible, but I think all regions have a different approach to environmental stewardship.
00:21:20.440Where you are, carbon capture is a big deal.
00:21:23.700And I think there's a lot of opportunities for carbon capture.
00:21:27.320But central Canada, they don't value carbon capture.
00:21:34.760Well, and I guess I'll segue into, we're talking about regional disparity and interprovincial trade.
00:21:41.000And boy, you really poked the hornet's nest, but I'm sure you knew you wouldn't when you went and dared to question Canada's dairy supply management on a Quebec broadcast of all places.
00:22:17.100It was to raise the issue of supply management because I was in Quebec.
00:22:20.460I was in the middle of supply management country.
00:22:24.060And I wanted to be clear that if we want to create a free flooring market in Canada,
00:22:28.820If we really believe it, if we want to do it, in the agri-food sector, there's no other way to do it other than looking at marketing boards provincially, because they have a lot of power.
00:22:41.280They're the one allocating quotas.0.82
00:22:43.780A lot of people think it's all about the federal government.
00:22:47.060No, it's actually provincial governments that actually allocate quotas, and that needs to be discussed, especially right now in light of what's happening with the U.S.
00:22:55.700Well, as well, I mean, that system in general, along with actually, we've had some pretty heavy tariffs on our dairy products for quite some time or incoming dairy products to try and protect the Canadian market.
00:23:08.080I appreciate your blasphemy taking it out there, but there's no better time maybe to discuss this.
00:23:14.200I mean, if we're going to talk about, well, how can we be Team Canada?
00:25:58.760I think people are starting to recognize that we need perhaps supply management and the dairy system that we have in Canada is not working for us.
00:26:08.040I think the message is starting to resonate.
00:26:10.340Well, the conversation is starting, and I really appreciate you bringing it to the fore.
00:26:13.880As I said, it's not the easy route to take.
00:26:16.020I mean, you want to avoid the headaches, the flack, and everything else.
00:26:18.480You just stick to other subjects, but you're not giving up on it, and I really appreciate that.
00:26:23.620I know you've got a hard deadline today, so before I let you go, where can people find your work?
00:26:28.300and where you've been speaking up and such?
00:26:39.740and we have a podcast called the Food Professor Podcast.
00:26:42.520It's available on Simplecast, Apple, Shopify,
00:26:50.520and all the platforms you're familiar with.
00:26:54.820And so you can find out all sorts of things we're working on.
00:26:58.300Well, that's excellent, doctor. Thank you again for coming on the show again and keep up the good fight. Watching with interest. As I said earlier, we've got some crazy times happening, but sometimes some good outcomes can actually come out of the insanity if we could just think rationally through it.
00:27:13.040Exactly. Thanks for inviting me, Corey.
00:27:14.940thank you so yeah guys check them out as you can see yeah the food professor on x and uh as well
00:27:23.320yes the podcast you know it's the food professor's podcast you can get more extended discussion on
00:27:28.720these things these issues are big and you know things i don't like that's for sure and and it
00:27:32.780i hate one of the things i don't like is puns actually but i can't help it when it comes to
00:27:37.240supply management it is a sacred cow and i don't you know it's the unintentional pun i can't stand
00:27:42.460sacred cows. Why? Why can we not even discuss it? Dr. Charlebaugh was pretty polite about it, but
00:27:48.300he got just blasted for going into that issue. And they're very protective. And I mean, I'm on
00:27:53.520X. Those who know me on there, Corey B. Morgan, by the way, if you really want to get into the
00:27:57.020discussions of the fights, that's my favorite playground. But you can tell they're searching
00:28:01.860the terms. They're watching for it. And when supply management comes up, the defenders of it
00:28:07.080come out of the woodwork and they're vicious. They are, yes, speaking of protectionist and
00:28:11.820protective. Why? And it's not a mistake. It's organized. I mean, these are dairy cartels and
00:28:17.840it's not an exaggeration. I know they're not ruthless, murderous cartels like we saw in
00:28:22.080Colombia with cocaine, but it's the same thing. It's a small group that fixes and controls the
00:28:27.380prices and people don't understand and realize which supply management is often enough because
00:28:33.840again, people are afraid to discuss it. It doesn't come up enough. This is the system in Canada,
00:28:38.300it, guys. Governments provincially issue quotas. If you're a dairy farmer, it is illegal for you
00:28:46.740to produce and sell a dairy product without the government issued quota for it. If you sell more
00:28:53.100than that, you will be charged. That's how that works. So they strangle the amount of supply
00:28:59.020so that they can artificially keep the prices higher. It's the opposite of competition. And I
00:29:04.900get so frustrated when I get conservatives, people who call themselves conservatives saying
00:29:09.840that it's a good system. It's not. It's Soviet style. It's as anti-capitalist, anti-free market0.84
00:29:16.180as you could possibly get. It really is. And I get frustrated with dairy farmers get all upset
00:29:23.860and everything. Oh, we do a great job. If you're doing that great a job, and I'm sure some of them
00:29:27.740are, then you shouldn't need to illegalize the competition. And that's what they do.0.82
00:29:32.300And one of the things that came up a lot, if you might remember a few years ago, boy, they suppressed that fast and nobody can get a quote from him or talk to him anymore. He got shoved off to the sideline, which is almost scary. There was a dairy farmer who showed a video of thousands and thousands of gallons of milk being dumped in the drain. And it really gave the visual to people of just what's going on with supply management. And of course, the supply management loons went nuts, but it was true.
00:29:58.220because you see again he had produced he'd done a really good job the cattle were fed well uh you
00:30:03.440know the the milk was flowing but the problem was it was illegal for him to sell any more than what
00:30:07.200his quota was so he had to dump it down the drain there was nothing else he could do they can't make
00:30:11.380cheese with it and put it you know sell it somewhere else you can't give it to a food bank
00:30:15.400you can't sell it at a roadside milk stand you have to dump it the ditch some places might feed
00:30:20.520it to pigs and i you know my wife grew up in a dairy farm her father had a very small one you
00:30:25.800know, back in those days, the farms were a lot smaller. He had a quota for cream, but not for
00:30:30.920milk. And so yeah, he would skim the cream, sell that, it would supplement the family farm, and
00:30:35.780then you could feed the family some of the milk, and otherwise you had to dump it. You had to dump
00:30:40.780it. What a stupid, ridiculous system, and we're still defending it. And this system costs us in a
00:30:47.320lot more ways, because others are saying it's protecting the family farm. That's baloney. The
00:30:50.820stats are very clear right there. In 1991 we had some over 60,000 dairy farms in Canada. Now we've
00:30:57.640got 9,000 because these quotas have become a commodity in and of themselves. Only very wealthy
00:31:05.660farmers, large operations can afford to buy up these quotas. So the little guys get crushed,
00:31:11.380they get wiped out. You can't open a little cottage industry dairy. You can't open a 50
00:31:16.640cow dairy and maybe just make your own cheese or do a few small side things is you'd have to get
00:31:21.160those quotas and it's too high priced so don't feed me that baloney that this system supports
00:31:26.660the small family farm it's totally the opposite it's killing the family farm and as sylvain said
00:31:32.460let's start just start even with ripping down then the provincial barriers and just let this
00:31:38.560get spread across the whole country because isn't it interesting with quebec and i can't remember
00:31:43.180what it is. They got something like 30%. I, you know, I might be corrected by one of the commenters
00:31:46.860about 30 or 40% of Canada's dairy industry is there, even though they only make up about 18%
00:31:53.560of our population. So it makes it a hot button issue, of course, because, uh, uh, you know,
00:31:59.140nobody, no federal politician ever wants to upset Quebec. I mean, that that's speaking of sacred
00:32:03.800cows within Canada, right? They won't touch it. I've had Polly on this show before, and I asked0.99
00:32:08.700him about it before. I appreciate his honesty. He said, we won't touch it, but I still would
00:32:13.380rather he was honest and saying it's time to take it on. And is there not a better time than right
00:32:16.820now? So Trump is well aware of that dairy supply management system. I mean, as I said earlier,
00:32:24.560we've got tariffs. Sylvain pointed that out. You really should follow them on X. On some of our
00:32:28.900stuff like American butter coming up to Canada, and it's something like a 325% tariff we put on
00:32:33.960it to protect our local dairy industries. It's absurd. Look at all of that great growing,
00:32:40.660grazing, agricultural land all across the prairies. Why isn't it loaded with dairy
00:32:46.320productions? Well, because we can't get the quotas. They're all in Quebec. It's got to stop.
00:32:53.960It's got to stop. So, so, so things chipping at that. Again, if we want to be team Canada,
00:32:58.340team canada needs to tell quebec to go to hell that's the the blunt truth about it on every
00:33:07.000level because they aren't team canada they're team quebec and you know what they've always been
00:33:10.900they're unapologetic about it but that's enough as we talked about with people realize oh my lord
00:33:16.240we're so vulnerable as canadians now that we got president trump jumping all over us with tariffs
00:33:20.000and pushing us around and making demands yes how would we become more independent from that
00:33:25.960Well, and some of them realize, well, if we got oil and gas products to the coast, those things that that idiot Trudeau has been fighting for 10 years, that moron, we would be able to say, well, fine, we're going to take our oil and gas, we're going to sell it to Europe, we're going to sell it to Asia, we're going to sell it to India, India's got the biggest oil refinery on earth, we could be shipping it there.
00:33:43.080we get what do we get Trudeau banned tankers he shut down the northern gateway pipeline he
00:33:48.600regulated energy east to death but now they're finally realizing some of them saying we better
00:33:55.360get these pipes to the coast yes but guess who popped up right away and said no no no no that's
00:34:01.180not gonna happen Quebec they said they're not gonna allow it so now you don't hear it from
00:34:05.560the federal politicians anymore okay so now we're just gonna keep and you know what 97 percent of
00:34:11.740or oil and gas exports, the stuff that actually leaves the country, goes to the USA.
00:34:15.760And we get discounted on it because of that.
00:34:18.520When you only have one customer, you're screwed.
00:43:39.760And even if it was a good, well-tuned armed forces we had here,
00:43:44.680it would just be so microscopically small we would be walked over within days i listen to
00:43:51.460warren kinsella a commentator online a former liberal advisor and there's some of the funniness
00:43:56.800out of it because he was putting out the poll online would you be willing to take up arms and
00:44:00.200fight to the death to defend canada nice jingoism warren you were also one of the same buttholes
00:44:06.180who was pushing for gun control and taking away every rifle from canadians who wanted them
00:44:10.900How would people take up arms if they'd have listened to you and given up their firearms years ago? It wouldn't have happened, right? You guys, sorry, you already blew your chance there. The very people that you berated as rednecks and, you know, the whole works and crazed firearm owners.
00:44:31.040Now you're saying that Canada can suddenly have some sort of militia, revolutionary type of guard going on here.